Rorschach's Death

[@iamatn3317]

“Suddenly you discover humanity?......convenient” that delivery was amazing.

[@Onigirli]

My eyes stung when he said it, it was perfectly blunt

[@amartya92]

Best part is he was wearing a mask while saying it and yet you can feel his emotions.

[@GuitarGod2112xx]

The blots on his mask are supposed to emit his emotions based off the comics so you see they start becoming more rapid while he is delivering that comment.

[@cbp117]

That's what I like too say to all our politicians around the world

[@iamatn3317]

GuitarGod2112xx that’s dope, I didn’t know that

[@xxrabbitsnipezxx5794]

Can't we all just appreciate Jackie's stunning performance as Rorschach? Just like Hugh Jackman as Logan, I can't see anyone else to be able to play as Rorschach as perfect as that man did

[@bjjj7396]

xXRabbitSnipezXx i agree with you!!! 👍👍

[@ezioauditore1746]

I agree

[@xbloodyxjamesxkiddx]

So powerful! Should have gotten an Oscar.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

I think the voice of the question from JL Unlimited goes better with the character. But the performance by jackie was great.

[@jessemccutchen308]

Agree

[@ralphgoodwin7768]

I love the irony that in the end both Dr. Manhattan and Adrien lose their sense of humanity, whereas rorshach and comedian (the two characters who are deemed sociopathic) show they have a sense of humanity.

[@edwardgaines6561]

Perhaps the only way to save humanity, in Ozzy's eyes, was to detach himself from it.

[@Bigkingmonster408]

I've always thought that. The two characters down to be the worst people in the series end up dying trying to do the right thing.

[@protalghulnist4126]

@@Bigkingmonster408 what THEY think is the right thing, the whole point is that it’s not as simple as right and wrong in this situation

[@protalghulnist4126]

@KitchensAreHot then you missed the point of the comic, the great thing about this story is that it's not interested in telling you whats right and wrong, it just presents different viewpoints and allows the audience to choose whichever they believe to be the lesser of two evils

[@Marco_MM7]

Wise consideration.

[@Vercenzo]

You can tell by Dr. Manhattan’s subtle eye movements that it was hard for him to kill Rorschach.

[@ischeele7203]

He'd just rediscovered the value of human life maybe an hour earlier

[@iw_legendary_sayain2215]

He might as well be sobbing

[@CommodoreMudkip]

@Darth Pancake Studios doomsday clock is garbage

[@dweetsauce8513]

CommodoreMudkip comment below says otherwise lik

[@CommodoreMudkip]

@@dweetsauce8513 it abandons a lot of the themes from Watchmen in order to be a pretty generic DC comic book which features versions of the Watchmen characters.

[@robertmacdonald5496]

Rorscach, the poorest, most "unstable" and most human of the Watchmen, outwitted Ozymandias and Dr. Manhattan in the end with his journal. Poetic.

[@sebsignat8286]

But would his journal done more good if it was sent to a more reputable news source like New Yorker

[@FalconWindblader]

@@sebsignat8286 More like would it have mattered. truths of all kinds are being revealed & exposed almost at daily basis all over the world, but how many would actually care enough to find out more & do something? it's even more difficult in this particular case, given how verifying what Veidt did would risk having USA & USSR going at each other's throats again. besides, it's the word of one obscure journal vs the 'truth' that happened before everyone's eyes. it'd be like fighting a warship with a pistol.

[@sebsignat8286]

@@FalconWindblader the warship could go kaboom from that pistol if properly aimed

[@FalconWindblader]

@@sebsignat8286 That's like saying a child could throw an egg (standard chicken ones, not the likes of ostriches & definitely not those of dinosaurs) & kill a healthy grown-up if done at the right angle. you can't. destroying a warship with a pistol ain't something you could inflict from ANYWHERE outside a warship. doing it INSIDE the warship would be a different argument altogether that ain't applicable here.

[@sebsignat8286]

@@FalconWindblader exactly

[@romosxual]

"If you cared from the start none of this would've happened" -Rorschach

[@taker300]

True 😔

[@muhammadwafiuddin7025]

*ligma* *balls*

[@yoshikagekira2838]

@@muhammadwafiuddin7025 **bass sound**

[@marsayde1237]

@@yoshikagekira2838 *NOOOOOOO*

[@Idk-do1ui]

@@muhammadwafiuddin7025 I really cannot take this scene seriously anymore

[@EazyLee69]

Rorschach, approaches an indestructible man with the power to shape matter to how he sees fit, tell him to get out of his way. what a legend

[@steelbear2063]

+Lee Henry And he dies.

[@Elthenar]

+Олег Егоров Never compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon He knew what this was.

[@hoopsonwheels]

He knew he was going to die by Manhattan's hand he however couldn't bring himself to compromise his principles

[@budderking163echo8]

damn hes bold

[@ChooseAName789]

+Lee Henry What a moron. He got what he deserved, it just took longer than it should have.

[@thedoc7184]

I am sure with all of his powers he could have just wiped it from his memory instead of hitting him with the Steve jobs special

[@luma8769]

Lmao

[@santana7827]

Who the hell is steve Jobs?

[@landondiep7741]

@@santana7827 ligma balls

[@somerandomname3124]

Rorschach wanted to die here because he wouldn't stop until he got his way. Manhattan just gave him what he wanted. Manhattan's also powerful enough to see into the future and realize that eventually in Earth's long history something relating to Rorschach's journal is published. He can also choose to just burn it before it's found. The thing is he doesn't for one reason or another. This was the only dignified way to end things for him.

[@conical3769]

@@santana7827 he was the creator of Apple and Disney Pixar and a lot of companies

[@comicmaster217]

The fact that Nite Owl was there for Rorschsch’s end is one of my favorite changes from the book It makes it so much more powerful

[@adimitri6445]

comicmaster217 exactly

[@themanjaebla]

comicmaster217 but not witnessing his friends death allows him to get it up to fuck silk spectre

[@flannerymonaghan-morris1317]

Yeah. You can just feel the pain of that poor guy, realizing that what he had gotten himself into...was a mess that he didn’t want to be involved with. That, and the idea of having one of your mentors/friends being blown up by someone you thought was your friend. God, that must be traumatizing....

[@fatcat1]

I came here just to comment that

[@eliezercohengoldberg1381]

JimmySteller that was done on purpose is the g n I think to show how shitty the world was lol but I like the movie more anyway

[@Ddarke11]

Rorschach was ready for death a long, long time ago. Jackie Earle Haley does an amazing job of twisting pain and rage together both in his voice and face.

[@tommy_noble]

The way his face scrunches up in anger before delivering the second "Do it" like he's mad Dr Manhattan didn't have the balls to kill him the first time he said it. Love it

[@linux077]

It's so sad that Steve Jobs died from ligma

[@thebostonterrierdude1585]

@@linux077 who the hell is Steve jobs!??!?

[@mauz791]

@@thebostonterrierdude1585 ligma balls...

[@linux077]

@@thebostonterrierdude1585 Ligma balls

[@muertinix]

Little did they know that Rorschach sent his journal to the media revealing everything. In the end, Rorschach wins... Rorschach always wins.

[@lilsquidlett]

And when Rorschach wins, everybody else loses

[@kxmode]

Your logic is spotty and shifty.

[@The1Floyd]

I don't know, that's up to your own imagination really. Honestly in my mind, they printed to story and the mass majority of people never believed it. And like always continued to live amongst there lies. Like Manhattan said he can change almost anything, but not human nature. Human nature would dictate they will go for the easy answer, Manhattan is a bad guy and he can kill them all so they must all stand united.

[@terbentur2943]

Well his journal does not include the most important part...

[@Cyanidesin]

Yes. he died foe his convictions and pride, even if it would have destroyed the world. Justice is a human conception which has no place in math.

[@scythedarwin4409]

Nobody mentions how this is Nite Owl’s first time seeing Rorschach in person without his mask, moments before his death. Chilling

[@boeloevanboeloefontein]

And the worst thing is he doesn't even get a proper, good long look at him. He can only imagine what his expression actually looked like in full at that final moment.

[@JimmySteller]

He saw him without the mask on the news and in the prison

[@scythedarwin4409]

@@JimmySteller o shit you right about the news, I’m pretty sure he never saw him without the mask in prison tho

[@dark_rit]

IIRC he saw him on the street and didn't recognize him without his mask earlier in the movie and Rorschach made a narrative comment about it at some point during the movie.

[@romans7177]

You mean without his face

[@reidintothemic3265]

When he breaks up with Silk Spectre he leaves earth. When he breaks up with Rorschach he leaves the damn galaxy. I think we all know who mattered most here.

[@feartheghus]

RIT𐌝ΞM that’s pretty gay.

[@soc1163]

Bob Johnson Thank you for your insight.

[@JOrtiz-gc2dl]

Wow ! I never looked at it that way. Yeah, silk lady was some ass but Rorschach was pure belief, conviction a man of unshakable principle.

[@despacitodaniel801]

He literally breaks Rorschach up lol

[@armedraptor5114]

Bros before hoes.

[@remo687]

Goddam. Why didn't Jack Earle Haley(Rorschach) get some kind of nod for this role? He was amazing? And WHY didn't he get more awesome and intense roles like this, after this, instead of crap parts like Elm Street and Robocop? He can pull off more roles as the dramatic lead, easily. A highly and unjustly underrated actor, in my opinion.

[@slimymclord8165]

Everyone bitching about DiCaprio not getting an oscar (which he eventually got for some reason) while there's a shit ton of actors out there that never got shit, even when they're a 100 times better actors than Leo. Jackie is one of them, but I guess he's not handsome enough for an oscar right?

[@slimymclord8165]

Btw, Jackie's performance in Little Children is downright disturbing. He should've won the oscar for that one. At least he got nominated.

[@remo687]

+Mr. Painless85 I have never heard of it, I will have to see that one.

[@bluber1256]

Jackie Chan and Oscar? Dafuq is with this people

[@slimymclord8165]

Not Jackie Chan, mate, Jackie Earle Haley.

[@digitalwest3449]

it's sad when Dan screams after Rorschach is killed. it sounds really genuine and he was one of the few people that actually liked Rorschach

[@TheAlb100]

Yeah. Rorschach was a good man. Difficult thing for him to be feeling the way he did about human beings but he wanted to make the world a better place. He was stubborn and uncompromising even in the face of death because that was who he was. Everyone thought he was just a nut but Dan.

[@PetShopMod]

Dan's scream, is the good people's consciousness.

[@mr.l8723]

Daniel was the only person he trusted. They were partners, friends, heroes.

[@zeeboss7553]

Digital West you can hear the despair and defeat in his voice because he knows he can’t do anything.

[@tothelastman6]

@Raja Thyagaraj I always hated that part.

[@Juandon1989]

“What’s one more body amongst foundations?”. That line always killed me man. RIP Rorschach

[@ajdominguez1002]

Killed Rorschach, too

[@jacksonholder2987]

Dr. Manhattan, tells everyone that he doesn't care at all about humanity, then decides he cares just long enough to kill the coolest character, then leaves. Godamnit.

[@dragonballunitedyt4640]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@felreizmeshinca7459]

Because of her. If not he wouldn't come back in the first place. I love Rorschach's character a lot, but I think Dr. Manhattan's action is logical. I don't know if you've watched the ultimate cut or theatrical cut though.

[@jacksonholder2987]

Miyazaki Ahmad Dr. Manhattan is a terrible character IMO.

[@felreizmeshinca7459]

Jackson Holder I gotta agree since he doesn't have much character to begin with haha

[@Theri4444]

Doctor Manhattens action is logical and honestly I prefer him over any of the other characters

[@EliDEVITTSpeaks]

It's crazy how the message in both THE DARK KNIGHT and WATCHMEN is "peace can only be achieved through lies and tragedy".

[@losgryfog]

that message is relevant because it is the slogan of developed human society throughout the world

[@UltimateEnd0]

+Eli DEVITT *Enter Men in Black*

[@RoyalGuard503]

+Losing You to You Ultimately, whether or not Ozymandius plan succeeds, and whether or not is justified, is not supported either way by the narrative. Moore knew better. Personally, I believe that inaction in the face of the coming political struggles during Watchmen would have been a more catastrophic choice than what he did.

[@RoyalGuard503]

***** Alan Moore, the writer of the original graphic novel. He said that he didn't want to make it seem like he sided for or against Veidt's decision to bomb major cities. That's why Dr. Manhattan said "Without condemning or condoning, I understand." Personally, Veidt's plan was excessive, but it's what was necessary for his plan to succeed. If he wanted the world to be afraid of Manhattan, he needed to give them a very powerful reason to. So he basically showed them that, at any given time, Dr Manhattan could exact the wrath of God. It's very powerful, motivating stuff. I think that even if it weren't entirely necessary, he would have done it just to fit a poetic vision.

[@noahorakwue2653]

+RoyalGuard503 Ultimately I think its safe to that this was a Nixon's fault.

[@punishedbung4902]

"I'm leaving this galaxy... for one less complicated. " proceeds to become god of the DC universe.

[@Welkynar]

hhaha DC Rebirth reference

[@parkeranderson1517]

Dc is know for their simplistic and clean continuity oh wait..

[@professionalserialkiller3782]

matthew malloy would kill dr manhatten easly

[@h8makingupnames]

He said LESS complicated lol

[@mattd791]

THE GREAT CORNHOLIO he wasn't the one who caused the new 52, but he could over see the changes in time.

[@thibautisserant]

I love when Rorschach says "That's always been the difference between us, Daniel." You can tell he doesn't say it like he's right, just that their ways of being are different. They both follow their path, and he doesn't know if the path he chose is the right one, but he must follow it all the way to the end.

[@angelfan16]

"What's one more body amongst foundations?" This line describes every government and civilization in human history.

[@Petaurista13]

ironically those who claim they want to give power to people kill most.

[@TimTeboner]

🙄

[@proposterous2808]

#Im14AndThisIsDeep

[@angelfan16]

@@proposterous2808 Except I'm 30, soon to be a librarian with an MA, with an already acquired History BA focusing in ancient civilizations. But, never to fear, because I wrote an undergraduate thesis arguing that the US invasion of Iraq was actually a resounding victory of neoconservative goals via influences in the second Bush administration. As opposed to its perceived failure by the world at large So, I have dabbled in political science as well. I'm sorry, what are your qualifications? lol

[@davidbronstein2040]

@@angelfan16 Nobody cares about your life dude.

[@awelshperson306]

"Never compromise, not even in the face of armageddon. That's always been the difference between us Daniel." Even when all the other heroes gave it up, Rorschach kept on going and even when Armageddon was at stake, he stuck to his morals.

[@guilhermehank4938]

And bizarrely Alan intended for rorschach to be the wrong one here. And he gers pissed when people see him as the right one.

[@hydrocritical2268]

@@guilhermehank4938 He gets pissed when people think Rorschach is cool. Which is fair. I don’t think it’s fair that he hates this movie for some reason.

[@ratamahatta5306]

Best thing is rorschach wins at the end

[@baconian_road_construction]

Yes, it defines his character. He sees everything in black and white, good and evil. He would always do what he perceives is the right thing, no matter the consequences or damage it causes, because he believes no end can ever justify evil means.

[@steelspartanzero]

I love the way Manhattan talks and looks while he's speaking to Rorschach; it's like he's shed his godhood and you can see the human underneath again; his voice is more somber, you can see the pupils in his eyes clearly and when Rorschach says "What's one more body amongst foundations?" he clearly struggles with acting in accordance with a decision that has already been made. Great acting on display here.

[@Petaurista13]

He never had any godhood.

[@RoamingPlayer]

@@Petaurista13 I guess he means the power he has

[@redacted144]

He can't play god against a non believer. To Rorschach, Manhattan is a man with mean to an end

[@guilhermehank4938]

Manhattan knows that, if there is a God, he is nothing like him

[@DivineKnight_115]

Just being a lore nerd but perhaps when we see Manhattan freeze time around him and Rorschach, he may have been looking through his timeline for any possible reason they could all still walk away and realizes there isn’t.

[@JackBlackJr123]

"never compromise...not even in the face of Armageddon..." strong words to live by

[@bryanquijanesortega6549]

Rorscharch was such a badass, even the bloodstain he left in the ground is cool.

[@drizzypizzman5849]

It looks like a Rorschach test, poetically leaving the audience to decide who was the true hero, Rorschach or Veidt. spoilers its veidt

[@orangeman3505]

...you ok buddy?

[@secretname2670]

His blood formed his symbol

[@ndongengone7284]

It was Dr. Manathan who willingly dispersed the rest of his body as well

[@yashbhandaree6800]

Of course it is cool it is in the freaking ice.

[@imafunguy936]

I'm still pissed till this day

[@citrusabdy3797]

fr, i watched it in theaters and when Rorschach exploded, i got up and left. I sat through over two hours of bullshit and barely any action just for my favorite character to be killed.

[@imafunguy936]

Abdiel Montanez whoa, I get your anger over Rorschach's death, but over 2 hours of bullshit and almost no action? The movie was a masterpiece bro. Nothing like it ever

[@citrusabdy3797]

i know man, i just never expected him to be killed like that.

[@imafunguy936]

Abdiel Montanez​ oh me neither man. The emotions it left me with is why I love it so much. This scene was so powerful and a piss off man. R.I.P Rorschach😭😪😪😥😥

[@citrusabdy3797]

+Watch Men R.I.P

[@davidbrunner6636]

This scene sticks out for me because, I think Roarshac did want to die. He was a vigilante for so long and has seen so much, and Veidts recent actions with the killings of millions probably broke him even more. Further worsened by the watchmens agreement to cover it up. He wanted no part in it and knew that they couldn't let him live. So he probably saw this as a way out from the pain and the burden. But at the same time he knew his journal would complete his work. I think he's a tragic hero. But very strong and firm in his beliefs.

[@bingitybong6518]

Lil Note in the comic the ending was left ambiguos the person he sent the journal to was you the reader so you could choose the ending yourself in your imagination

[@protalghulnist4126]

@@bingitybong6518 it’s the same in the film

[@TeChNoWC7]

It’s not just that though. His concept of justice and morality had become so strong, and at times so dangerous (not here though, completely on point) that he couldn’t bear to even live in a world built on the foundation of an extremely utilitarian approach to ethics. A part of him regretted that that was essentially about to get him killed. But yes, at the end of the day - he was ready.

[@Yuurei21]

I agree and I like to think that he wanted to be judged for failing. He failed to save the child and he failed to stop Veidt, thus he failed the ideal that he pledged to. Also see Night Owl so willing to "compromise" he lost his only human connection. I digress but I suffer from depression and anxiety, so Rorschach is very relatable because I understand his rage.

[@edwardgaines6561]

"Complete his work?" That makes Rorschach sound like Jigsaw now.

[@unlimitedrabbit]

Hats off to Nite Owl actor Patrick Wilson. The emotion he generated as he belted out that "NOOOOOO!" becomes more remarkable when you consider that he didn't have the luxury of seeing Jackie Earle Hayley actually being blown to bits in front of him. Hell, Hayley was probably off camera having some hot chocolate while that was being filmed. Wilson had to conjure the visual and react.

[@drjonesey5]

"had to conjure the visual and react." No pun intended lol Patrick Wilson plays the Husband in the Conjuring Horror movie franchise and the Husband/Dad in the Insidious Horror Film franchise. Also, the 'Noooo" was not just a "Noooo" it's a "Noooo" that transitions to an "Ahhhh" when he drops to his knees. I think it's great because it shows the pain of the event he just witness of his friend dying. It feels like a realistic heartache moment.

[@Psnowdog7]

I will never get over his giant bloodstain looking like a Rorschach test...

[@RobertHarr1son]

Psnowdog7 In the comic the make a first shot of that image on his mask

[@RobertHarr1son]

***** No way :D

[@justinsmith275]

+degree7 looks like a snow angel to me...or..."flowers"

[@lawoftheeast]

+Justin Smith Pretty little red flowers...

[@bossmugga1]

+Psnowdog7 Holy shit I see it now. It's like a symbol in itself.

[@SNESdrunk]

This scene makes me tear up every god damn time.

[@theSato]

Sick to see you were here.

[@rushing2game172]

Ligma balls

[@MisterUnknown707]

@@rushing2game172 Fuck off with your old ass fake disease joke.

[@edwardgaines6561]

A shame there was no _Watchmen_ game for the SNES.

[@MDClips2464]

@@MisterUnknown707 steve jobs died and you're telling people to "fuck off", can't believe the world has come to know such disrespect (joke)

[@movieace1295]

We need a Rorschach prequel! A hard R rated film noir detective story, that would be awesome.

[@nugg3tz347]

Your onto something

[@TheSmokingSkull]

That *would* be pretty awesome. But wasn't there going to be a TV show made about a prequel Watchmen series?

[@SiliconBong]

+The Smoking Skull Minutemen.

[@irmathesperma8548]

+SiliconBong the only minutemen I've seen is on Disney Channel

[@dave5194]

Ever heard of Before Watchmen? The one they did for Rorschach wasn't that great in my opinion though

[@austinsavage]

“Never compromise, not even in the face of armageddon.” Most badass line in superhero films/comics

[@jgriffs99]

It's sad when you're watching an awesome movie then your favorite character dies

[@AlexandraMorrow]

John Griffin Literally me when I watched this movie.

[@rustyshackleford5718]

John Griffin It's sad when you haven't seen the movie and some dumbass in the youtube comment section ruins the entire movie for you

[@Scarycute13]

Rusty Shackleford unless that comment is found where you're watching a clip of the character's death...stupid logic.

[@Bubblehead440]

Sable Exactly what I was thinking

[@Bubblehead440]

***** Oh yeah. That _was_ me

[@JustSomeCanadianGuy]

I've seen this movie like 10 times... Never noticed that the snow stopped falling in mid air.

[@SoudagerAamer]

Fabisch Factor It's a Zack Snyder movie after all. Watch his shit for 10 times and come back the next day. You'll always find something new in his movies ❤❤❤

[@jadyntrujillo2195]

Shit. That's so cool.

[@urekmazino6800]

Wow

[@ischeele7203]

Doctor Manhattan is bugged, environmental stuff lags like all hell in his aggro range. He doesn't get wet in rain, snow doesn't fall, dude's a mess. Watchmaker be praised for fan patches.

[@mbatley]

Kind of interesting if you read the comments that the one character everyone likes and admires had no "super" power except his convictions and strength of character. Says something...

[@fabioriato]

Except for Manhattan, no one actually has super powers...

[@waterpoloman92]

@Gray Au its called entertainment buddy. No one here is talking any shit on real life heros. Nd if they disgust you why watch a video about super heros?

[@EhCanadianGamer]

Dr. Manhattan is still interesting. I kind of think of him as a better superman of human origin.

[@ThePrinceofElPaso]

Gray Au then it sounds like you should t be here watching stuff about SUPER HERO COMICS

[@MrCypresss]

The last one and a half minutes is the most sincere, emotional and painful superhero scene of all time. All this without a single overplaying moment and a spectacular but meaningless effect. The only perfect scene that crowned the entire film.

[@iknowhumans9776]

Definitely prefer this ending to the comic one. Rorschach deserved a scene like this with more gravity. Damn nightowl just forgets about him in the comicbook.

[@fabioriato]

Nite Owl didn't watch him die in person in the comics... but yeah, the movie take on this was more interesting.

[@Sergeant_Camacho]

Yeah, I felt always disturbed by Nite Owl reaction in the comic. He prefered banging Laurie than trying to stop Dr Manhattan of killing his partner in the graphic novel.

[@ischeele7203]

@@Sergeant_Camacho He had no idea Doc was going to kill Rorschach. He just let his buddy walk off to go freeze in the tundra. At least Doc killed him quicker than the cold would've. Plus the point was that everyone that decided to put on a costume was an unlikeable, self-centered jerk.

[@CarolusMagnus2501]

That's the point. Rorschach lives by his principles but he's also a smelly hobo who will murder anyone who he thinks is a bad person. And the end of the book is literally him leaving his journal to see if anyone else will discover it.

[@JamilBousquet]

@@ischeele7203 best answer

[@JosephDutra]

I actually like that Nite Owl mourned his friend's death in the film instead of having sex with Laurie in the graphic novel, i thought that was stupid.

[@dylanwalsh3773]

In the book definitely felt more philosophical but in the film more real.

[@NotCthulhu]

+Joseph Dutra People tend to do unusual things when traumatized. In the movie they basically just seem to forget New York was just blown up and go about their business, barely any moral conundrum whatsoever.

[@armstrongilly]

+dylan walsh hear hear !

[@teddygallagher372]

+Not Cthulhu they knew it was over anyway

[@odysseasr308]

stupid? lmao u dont understand shit about the book.

[@jjmarr7130]

It's interesting reading up on the moral philosophies of these characters. Ozymandias is representative of the extreme conclusion of utilitarian ethics. That the best option is the one that maximizes the collective "utility" or well-being/happiness of everyone collectively. Under utilitarianism (and consequentialism in general) there's no inherently good or bad actions, only good or bad outcomes. The morally right action is whatever creates the morally right outcome. So to him it was acceptable to kill millions of innocent people because billions would be saved. It's ok to do anything for the "greater good." Rorschach represents the opposite view of "deontology"; that there are inherently good or bad actions regardless of the consequences of those actions. It's wrong to kill an innocent person regardless of the reasons for doing so. Even if it saves lives it shouldn't be done. Exacting justice on people is necessary regardless of the consequences. Rorschach believes murdering and torturing child rapists is the morally right thing to do. Even though it doesn't bring the children back and actually results in a net increase in suffering, it's the right thing to do. And that brings him into conflict because he believes in exacting justice no matter the cost, even if it's the lives of billions of people Ozymandias needs to be brought to justice because he's a murderer. Even if there's no reasonable prospect of succeeding Rorschach tries it anyways (I don't consider the TV show canon) because he doesn't compromise. Dr. Manhattan, the Comedian, and the Nite Owl are people stuck in the middle of this who don't rigidly follow either side. The Comedian is actively apathetic and is against morality. He openly acts in self interest and treats everything as a joke. The Nite Owl is basically the average person who believes that actions like murder are inherently wrong but also believes that it's ok to justify other stuff for the greater good, e.g. breaking Rorschach out of prison. So when he's confronted with a situation that's the worst possible action (mass murder of millions) for the best possible outcome (saving billions) his ethical system doesn't work anymore and he just doesn't act. He believes Ozymandias is a bad person for what he did but also tacitly supports his actions by not doing anything. Nite Owl screams when Rorschach is killed but is OK with millions of anonymous people dying. He doesn't have consistent morals and suffers for it. Dr. Manhattan on the other hand is passively apathetic. He's not actively hostile to morality like the Comedian, but he doesn't care about the morality of his actions or inaction much like him. He let the Comedian shoot a pregnant woman and just kind of watches stuff occur even though he has immense power. At the end of the film he stops caring about morals entirely and kills Rorschach not because of morality but because of his own self interest in liking humanity and wanting it to continue.

[@Mr.Popo_og]

Nice analysis there...I would like to hear ur views about Bruce Wayne/Batman's psychology.

[@orionblok1240]

its so sad that steve jobs died of ligma

[@codypalm7500]

Thanks, this was great for the essay i'm about to write

[@Petaurista13]

Problem is that Ozymandias's judgement is flawed. Utilitarianism needs very precise calculations.

[@Petaurista13]

@@Mr.Popo_og I've written whole case study of Wayne, although it wasn't too good as I was first year student. Plus i'm not really devoted DC fan to know Wayne greatly.

[@FC_mania]

Nite Owl’s “NOOOOOOOO” is the best version of that trope I’ve ever heard.

[@colonel1003]

It’s a trope to scream no?

[@wreathofpalmaria]

RIP the only character in this series I liked.

[@irmathesperma8548]

tHank yoU

[@Lunk42]

agreed

[@binkyjenkinsnut7336]

+wreathofpalmaria lol the watchmen graphic novel isnt a series.

[@wreathofpalmaria]

boosack summer it's a series of comic books mashed together.

[@binkyjenkinsnut7336]

limited series yes.

[@GoldenJokered]

This was actually one scene that was better than the graphic novel, at least Nite Owl is here trying to stop Dr. Manhattan instead of getting with Silk Spectre again. Bros before hoes Daniel!

[@SUBJ3CTDELT4]

Agreed, Dan being there just made the scene that much more powerful.

[@cindchan]

Same here! There's more verbal exchange and you can see that Manhattan doesn't really want to do it. And the change of Rorschach's expressions during all of it make it even more powerful! And, yes, I like Daniel being there rather than getting it on with Laurie. You never know how he reacted to Rorschach's death (or if he even cared) in the book.

[@Thetallestgirrafe]

ryouko Yeah, Rorschach was the Character with the most depth I felt and the way he died in the graphic novel left me feeling like y'know, he deserved a bit more. He was (to me anyway) one of those rare bottom right of the political spectrum guys and the presence of Nite Owl made me feel like at least there was someone (y'know, with HUMAN emotions) who witnessed him give his life for a cause, that the gesture wasn't in vain.

[@43tafdsvarews66]

GoldenJokered Is this the first time Daniel has seen Rorschach's face? If so, that's even more powerful imo. He saw a brief glimpse of his face just before he died.

[@cindchan]

43tafdSva rews Well, in the movie, he did see Rorschach's face on the news. So when he took the mask off, it was the first time he saw Rorshach's face in person. In the GN, it was very different.

[@hanshotfirst1138]

"I can change almost anything. But I can't change human nature." God, isn't that the truth?

[@kvinlo1]

No god, but that is indeed the truth.

[@dozervasquez2293]

+コカイン quit it

[@kvinlo1]

Dozer Vasquez ALLAHU AKBAR

[@kvinlo1]

assassinscreed00 **goes outside** **looks up** "hey god, how are you?" "....." therefore no god, come to Allah's Gaybar.

[@assassinscreed00]

+コカイン Your ahegao is weak, you lewd casul

[@sadistikalchemist]

Its devastating when this happened on screen in all honesty Rorschach was a character who really had nothing to live for in a world that he only viewed as black & white. He died protecting his values which was all he had left.

[@makingtheband990]

It gives me chills every time I watch him scream "DO IT!"

[@cameronjr8]

Ryan A Bilezubub has a devil for inside for me! For me! For me!

[@cameronjr8]

Ryan A Ozzy: For the last time, join me or die. Me: I am not much of a joiner. But, maybe we should. Nite Owl: Hey! He's trying to take over the world! Me: So? What's the world going to do for us anyway? It hates us! Nite Owl: Hey! Get back here! Me: Hey, Ozzy? Um... I lost my Rorschach. But you can get him back, right? Ozzy: I can, my dear. Anything you want.

[@flarion00]

Shia Labeouf couldn't have done it any better

[@MeshaMichaelSavio]

Love Jackie Earle Haley's acting at 2:50. Such desperation against an unstoppable force in Dr. Manhattan. Rorschach is an absolutely great character.

[@DuelingNetworkGuy]

+Mesha Michael Savio was... was a good character

[@tc-01-client56]

+DuelingNetworkGuy He still lives on in our hearts!

[@romeocorgan9575]

absolutely agree with you

[@irmathesperma8548]

brilliant

[@zolimenamorado5169]

where the children cry - I don't want to die, Mr. Stark. Where do men cry - what are you waiting for? go ahead, do it!!

[@davecrupel2817]

*DO IIIIIIIIT!!!!!!* _facing his end without fear, and without compromise._ THAT is a tearjerker of the toughest degree...

[@spiderjerusalem4009]

Where old people cry - dew it

[@trueapeman4192]

@@spiderjerusalem4009 final breathe

[@timothyturner9134]

His ultimate goal was death from all the pain and suffering he’s had to live through .. he’s finally at peace now

[@komrad4life]

doeeeeet!!!

[@Justsomeguy87]

"Never compromise... not even in the face of Armageddon." I love that line.

[@jamesambrocio]

"What's one more body amongst foundations?" damn, that was deep...

[@RockSensation119]

Even though John felt so out of touch with humans and their emotions, he still struggled to kill Rorschach. In the end, he was still his friend that he’s known for years. This movie was so well made

[@jajajaja2006]

I wish these new DC movies were as good as watchmen.

[@IwanAWESOMEstuff]

So... Just as bad?

[@sephipooh4717]

+Iwan Roberts Marvel fanboy in bound

[@IwanAWESOMEstuff]

Haha so not true, I love DC, I just know when to admit when something is bad and the recent DC films and Watchmen are bad. Mainly down to Zack Snyder, I don't like his style, doesn't work for most movies minus 300, which in my opinion is his only good film. So don't accuse me of being a Marvel fanboy when I love both companies, I just have an opinion on the film.

[@jajajaja2006]

I thought Watchmen was dope. Loved it.

[@1995krampe]

wait for the ultimate cut of bvs. It actually redeems some stuff. Sure it probably won't reach watchmen but at least it gets better

1:10 Rorschach last look on Night Owl was an awesome detail. He knows he will be killed and he take one last look on the only guy he consider his friend, even though he knows he would not follow him.

[@rorschach1088]

Never compromise not even in the face of armageddon

[@shriharihudli]

+Rorschach You were a great character, truly. I admire your principles.

[@irmathesperma8548]

MARRY ME

[@rorschach1088]

Irma Silva NEVER COMPROMISE

[@irmathesperma8548]

+Rorschach I'm yours

[@karatesparrow6437]

+Irma Silva ??? the funk??

[@yuugenr7549]

Rorshach, a true knight even in the face of death. I'll give that. RESPECT

[@mikevanvoorst6815]

F

[@thunderpantz]

He couldn't break his principles, they were the only thing he had.

[@jimmcneal5292]

That's the one of the most pro-human stories, the ordinary man without any powers winning against a crazy genius and a almost omnipotent being.

[@GUSX4NMAN]

It's still up the viewer to decide if the world actually believes the journal or not which is probably what Alan Moore was originally going for. It's open ended

[@standardreplicantKD6-3.7]

@@GUSX4NMAN Very good point. Alan may not have been going on the happy ending. Just what people would do realistically. Its a sad thought

[@adamg6711]

@@standardreplicantKD6-3.7 millions to save billions

[@monsieurcondottiero2685]

I like to believe that the journal would be the undoing of Ozymandias’s project; why else include it as the final panel in the graphic novel? But then again maybe I just like the idea of Rorschach winning in the end

[@Onigirli]

@@GUSX4NMAN Meh, just the fact that it's even a thing hints at something to hope for

[@Loganbub]

One of the best death scenes in cinema history.

[@crucify9631]

No. Its really not.

[@FrozenVibraniumProductions]

I don't agree with you, but it was sadder.

[@gabrieloliveiracanela9099]

yeah, such an emotional masterpiece

[@coolguy02536]

Probably, considering how many people were moved by it.

[@xTriXKillerx]

This is the best cbm death scene as well

[@AlphaFoxDelta]

"I can change almost anything... ... but I can't change human nature" - All Time Best

[@emergencyexit1120]

"I did the right thing, didn't I? Everything worked out in the end?" "In the end? Nothing ends Adrian. Nothing *ever* ends."

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

I really wish the movie kept this scene. It added a lot of depth to Adrian, showing that he wasn't completely cold and detached.

[@rodimusthetwiztid6834]

The fact that Manhattan slowed time while talking to Rorshach, look at the slowed snow falling until he kills him, then when Nite Owl reacts its in real time again. I f**king LOVE Zack Snyders directing style

[@crimsonfenrir2334]

In the end, he was the only man of Justice on the whole movie. In the country of fake justice and propaganda, Rorschach is the only one who hold into the truth and moral code of whats right and wrong. Thats the thing that change himself into a cruel madmen, but he have the best vision and the wisest among them all. He was like a typical conspiracy theorist, he want to tell them the truth and die for it. Rorschach, a dark villain with even darker act. People see him as badass and cool, but thats not all. For me, he is the merely doing what right for humanity and justice.

[@XRaDiiX]

I agree completely Rorschach was a good example of stoicism sacrifice his own well being for the the benefit of others is truly the greatest aspect of his character. He was truly trying to make a difference in a world of chaos. What the movie shows though is that our world is so corrupt and evil. Ruled by evil humans and many wicked humans who exist in the world. That the true heroes and good guys like Rorschach must die in order to bring even a small beacon of light into the world of utter darkness. "Stoicism teaches the development of self-control and fortitude as a means of overcoming destructive emotions; the philosophy holds that becoming a clear and unbiased thinker allows one to understand the universal reason (logos). A primary aspect of Stoicism involves improving the individual's ethical and moral well-being: "Virtue consists in a will that is in agreement with Nature."[6] This principle also applies to the realm of interpersonal relationships; "to be free from anger, envy, and jealousy,"[7] and to accept even slaves as "equals of other men, because all men alike are products of nature.""

[@blazeluminous5186]

Each of the Watchmen represent a different moral theory. Rorshach has very Kantian ethics.

[@falloutworldrecord]

Blaze Luminous I agree with you. What's your take on the other Watchmen?

[@falloutworldrecord]

I would come back on what I said to Dylan Fulton and say he isn't right about stoicism. Roeschach saw the world in a Kantic view where one must follow his duty for the greater good, no matter what the losts are.

[@GeneticAlgorithm]

This show us a lesson: We just can't live by a moral code, because there is no wrong or right. What is wrong for you maybe isn't to another person. You might say: "But everybody knows for example, that killing is wrong". Indeed, even a child knows that. Not because of a moral code, but by a survival instinct. To me, there is only the BALANCE: CHAOS and ORDER in eternal conflict trying to keep the balance. Rorschach's decision wasn't wrong or right, but chaotic (what doesn't mean it's a good or evil choice). While the Ozymandias's decision was to bring the order at any cost (what doesn't mean it's a good or evil choice). Dr Manhattan decision was to keep the balance, letting the world hate him (chaos) but giving them a reason to unite and avoid a nuclear war (order). Pick your side, chaos, order or balance?

[@spikeeagle6692]

Night Owl has the best "Noooo" in any movie I've ever seen.

[@ishansaha24]

Rorschach is the poor and extreme version of batman, no superpowers bad ass and the voice too xD

[@Rov-Nihil]

Batman doesn't have superpowers

[@ishansaha24]

yeah i never said he did have Androvsky

[@WaterandSpirit]

+Androvsky of course he has powers.

[@Rov-Nihil]

synthrone well maybe he has super strength and heightened senses

[@RR-kl4qy]

What superpowers does he have? Besides a very advanced grapel hook( if u count that as a power)..his fighting skills are good and he uses his enviroment like some jason bourne ...but no super powers right?

[@ovskii96]

The way Rorschach drops his usual way of talking here is almost like he's dying as his true self, Walter Kovavs.

[@MW-op9wx]

That's precisely why he took off his face first.

[@mattiabentivogli8144]

This scene alone has an astonishing level of detail which thrills me and add so deep emotion to the whole film: first of, notice how when Dr Manhattan stands in front of Rorschach, the snow stops falling and crystallizes in the air, suggesting suspense and tension, then, earlier in the film we are told that even if Dr Manhattan's emotions are difficult to read, blinking is a sign of him being sad...and while looking at Rorschach, especially without the mask, he blinks a lot :(

[@boeloevanboeloefontein]

In stark contrast with when he was psychoanalysed by Malcolm Long in prison, when he didn't blink even once.

[@philippemortelliti2522]

“Never Compromise. Not even in the face of armageddon.” Such an epic quote!

[@Videosrgd]

This scene always gets me, the acting is just phenomenal! Doctor Manhattan blue and resolute, Rorschach with his tortured, bitter face and Nite Owl's anguished howl at the end just amazing!

[@alexhuerta2140]

Everything IRL I'm a huge MCU fan, I've loved every single movie they've made so far the last 10 years! And still..... THIS movie has always been one of my favorite super hero movies ever!!! Rorschach is what made me love this movie so much. But over all this movie was just awesome!!! I'll never get tired of watching it!

[@intraserv3123]

It's the absolute best superhero movie ever made.

[@jellyh6545]

"I can change almost anything, but I can't change human nature." --Dr Manhatten to Rorschach

[@iviaverick52]

I never even read the watchmen series before seeing this movie, but this death still is the one that has pissed me off more than pretty much any other movie death.

[@thePisccu]

+Cameron Fischer Why did it piss you off? It did his character justice. It illustrated his incorruptibility, it had to happen. Not even in the face of armageddon. Never compromise.

[@DrugMan24]

+thePisccu to me his death ruined the movie simply because he was the only character i gave a shit, he was by far the most "human" character did find it suprisingly they actually bought this whole mastermind idea they could easily throw the blondies head on a spike for what he did

[@Svilly12]

+gman dog6 People fall in love with characters because they have empathy towards others, even fictional others. If you don't, you should be careful, because a lack of empathy is basically the main condition of a psychopath.

[@thePisccu]

Chicken Bot Was he truly "human"? I would say no, because he was the least opportunistic of them all. He always stood by his doctrine. As I have already quoted "Not even in the face of armageddon. Never compromise." The rest of the characters did not want to leave in vain those that were sacrifized to "save humanity". I think most people would have acted this way. Each character in Watchmen resembles away of thinking, and Ozymandias thought that sacrifizing millions to save billions is righteous. And we cannot deny that there is some truth to it. If you put it into context, he basically "saved" humanity by avoiding a nuclear war. That is why the last lines Dr. Manhatten said to Ozymandias are pure genius "Nothing ends, Adrian. Nothing ever ends." But if you really gave a shit about Rorschach, you would appreciate his death. Death is not necessarily bad, or at least, we cannot know that it is bad. As Socrates said "The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our separate ways, I to die, and you to live. Which of these two is better only God knows." Rorschach died for his perspective on righteousness. He did not compromise. He did not fail himself.

[@leprechaunluck24]

If you read the book. It hits even harder....

[@prosketch4966]

Dr. Manhattan, I've come to bargain.

[@darindial8908]

lmao

[@crazybitcheees]

ProSketch doctor strange😂😂😂😂

[@thedream2733]

bruhhh

[@cameronjr8]

NetherBlazed Man This is Suicide Squad

[@58kenstyle]

😷😷😷take that Disvel kiddiverse crap at the screen junkie comment section.

[@Aphelion819]

"Suddenly, *you* discover humanity? How convenient."

[@baddweather6362]

It's so crazy how good this scene is with all the context. Manhattan knew, and has always known he was going to kill rorshach, because that's what had to happen, like entropy. Rorshach is the opposite of entropy, hes the will to keep fighting, and because rorshach will never, ever stop fighting, he already knew he was going to die too. This is essentially watching the fragile strength of man being obliterated by the all powerful forces of time and entropy, something we all can relate to on a very primal level

[@gokulauri]

I like the fact that the snow started hovering when Dr Manhattan came out

[@kulitmed]

damn i didnt even notice that! nice

[@davecrupel2817]

Did he freeze time (no pun intended) to settle it with Rorschach independantly from everything else?

[@1blythe]

Dave Crupel Just his presence alone

[@TaZ101SAGA]

This shit was sad man

[@SiliconBong]

TaZ101SAGA *gives you happy kitten (o.o)

[@TaZ101SAGA]

SiliconBong Thanks. I will raise the happy kitten with pride :-)

[@SiliconBong]

TaZ101SAGA Guess, what I found some 'United Video dollars' today :) [Sort of a voucher that has the additional benefit of devalueing at the same rate as normal money] I rented dark Knight & Watchmen !! *happy days :)

[@Antolity]

TaZ101SAGA In the new world. Adriands united utopia there is no war and crime will go lower so there is not much wotj for Rorchach since crimefighting is th eonly one keeping him going

[@Aadilarsh]

This was so sad

[@Dragonlover553]

"Sometimes a good man must be sacrificed for the good of all. Sometimes a kingdom can only prosper in the shadow of a grave." A good quote. But I have another. "One who will not give of himself, has no right to speak of sacrifice." RIP Rorschach.

[@quinnholloway5400]

Ozymandias is so willing to sacrifice others, and yet he doesn't wish to sacrifice himself, even if say his own death would be because the world discovered what he did And even with his Sliver tongue, he couldn't stop the anger in those who'd see him dead He has no right to choose the fate of so many When he won't even bother to choose his own if it meant making the world a better place

[@eternalblessing4984]

This scene made me shed a tear. All that investigating and determination to stay on the case and end up finding out Ozymandias was the killer. Literally sacrificing his reputation after having an already depressing childhood. All just for it to end by Manhattan himself cause he wants to hide the truth. Of course it made sense in the end, but still feels wrong and depressing. Funny thing is though, Rorschach's journal could expose everything.

[@lupewalkerx]

One of the most powerful scenes in any comic book movie ever. This film is a masterpiece

[@bjjj7396]

Lupe Walker you are right!!! 👍👍😢😢

[@joshalexander2660]

Still don't understand the hate to this film. The storytelling in this masterpiece is almost that of a timeless classic. This movie requires so much thought from the audience however and that's where people react with a negative response. This scene embodies that with the audience torn on which side to choose. one side is putting fourth humanity in front of their own self righteous acts and one side wants to tell the world what really happened, outstanding

[@nanashi1173]

WaddleSenpai Well Alan Moore hates everything and everyone and is a psychopath so that doesn’t say much

[@killerpizza5241]

If this movie came put today. Exactly the same no changes at all. It would be a fucking banger

[@foosbooze263]

It’s because Whack Snyder is an absolute hack.

[@nanashi1173]

Cody Hooks 300 and Watchmen were both entertaining, good movies.

[@spiderjerusalem4009]

@@foosbooze263 because of what you've thought about BvS, right? Well, it was always WB's mistakes, look it up

[@The-Joke-s-on-you]

Although it often appears pointless and clichee, this is one of the most intense and powerful "NOOO!" I've ever heard out there in Hollywood :/

[@clickycal]

jokeonyou89 It's about as good as luke's.

[@MrmeleePOV]

Come back every year to watch this scene.. so emotional

[@friscolopter]

Rewatched the whole movie again and just amazing, totally underated super hero movie, Rorschach has now become my favorite DC hero, hands down.

[@bodilyflui986]

you do realise that it was the work of alan moore (technically not part of the DC un7verse)

[@bodilyflui986]

+Oliver Kill me now Hughes universe*

[@abc64pan]

Watchmen is mierda!

[@Mister_Jay_Tee]

friscolopter Now a part of DC comics.

[@fabioriato]

*Anti-hero

[@rxlvnd3397]

When Nite Owl told Dr Manhattan "don't even think about it," he had no idea that Rorschach's death had already happened in Dr Manhattan's perception, since he can see all of time simultaneously. The whole Watchmen story is incredible.

[@YagTan28]

Rorschach is basically what I imagine Batman should be like on screen. Un-compromising, even in the face of Armageddon. Hopefully Zack Snyder does his Batman justice.

[@rorschachwatchescb]

Ehhhh...Rorschach is extremely radically uncompromising, and his morals are already unflinchingly black and white, whereas Batman always constantly sees the gray. So Batman shouldn't really take example from Walter.

[@c0cksmak]

+Mr Justice well Allen Moore Wrote the character of rorschach based on batman. He made a what he thinks a real version of batman's character would be with the uncompromising justice mentality. Same thing he did with dr manhattan being a reflection of superman

[@rorschachwatchescb]

c0cksmak Actually that's extremely incorrect lol. Alan Moore based all the Watchmen on characters from Charlton Comics. Rorschach was based on The Question, and Dr. Manhattan was based on Captain Atom. Ozymandias was modeled after Thunderbolt, Nite-Owl was Blue Beetle (Ted Kord), Silk Spectre was Nightshade mixed with Phantom Lady, and The Comedian was Peacekeeper.

[@nikgokuhil]

+Mr Justice Rorschach is like Batman in same manner as Azrael is like Batman. But Batman is much more merciful.. He has Rorschach's thirst and drive for justice Ozymandias' willingness to make the tough calls, and take the blame on himself Manhattan's understanding of others and detachment to his own self.. and most importantly, Nite Owl's faith in humanity..

[@pyrocentury]

+Angry Bruce You will be disappointed then because that's not the kind of movie it's going to be. Just by the trailers and the need to include Wonder Woman shows that this will more likely be Avengers more than Dark Knight. They are setting up a Justice League cash cow. How thought provoking can it be.

[@fahriherlangga308]

Decades has passed still nothing can beat this masterpiece of "superhero" film

[@DeusOmnium27]

2:46 the slight emotion in Dr. Manhattan’s eyes combined with the music getting more intense and Jackies amazing delivery of “what’re you waiting for?..... do it.” Is so amazing. Truly underrated movie.

[@RealRookSiegeClipsVideos]

"Its so sad that Steve Jobs died of Ligma." "Who the hell is Steve Jobs?" "Ligma balls." 3:07

[@barrypark1881]

NOOOOOOOOO!!!

[@barrypark1881]

I literally came to this video after I saw that

[@gametut2012]

haha im also here because of the meme

[@RealRookSiegeClipsVideos]

Ah yes, people of culture.

[@Omen_Burrito]

Also here cuz of that, lmfao

[@nikkollaus]

The Original DO IT

[@Michaentus]

Sir Buffalo DEW IT

[@zom8680]

Literally Retarded didnt Palpatine's come out in 2003?

[@ChristianProtossDragoon]

@@zom8680 he means the comics.

[@rustkarl]

You can tell that Rorschach was the only real one among them. His moral standard was exacting but I say that every word he said was right, he called out a god on his apathetic hypocrisy and was willing to let humanity make its own choice rather than make it for them.

[@TheSaltyAdmiral]

As someone who have just taken a course in philosophy: This scene is the perfect example of *Virtue Ethics vs Utilitarianism* :)

[@DrFroggen]

Rorschach being virtue and dr Manhattan/ozymandias being utilitarianism

[@TheSaltyAdmiral]

Papa Hale Yep!:)

[@marklevesque2246]

Rorschach's response might ultimately be the "greater good". As Night Owl says, Veidt has only perverrted humanity. It's like hiding dirty laundry in the closet. It doesn't mean your room is clean. Also, our own world is evidence that the nukes might not have flown, and Manhattan could have stopped most of it. I also don't buy that the world would have been able to thrive so shortly after so much destruction in major cities. It's not a straightforward though experiment about comparing body counts, there are a lot of variables to consider.

[@ozymvndiaz]

Or deontology vs consequentalism

[@idontcareanymore7078]

whatever that means lol

[@thecave3600]

Rorshach was so right had Manhattan believed him from the start all of this coulda been avoided.His stance on truth was always right. Manhatten shoulda listened

[@davidrich27]

This is one scene where the movie outdid the comic. I love the extra "how convenient" bit. And that last "do it" is a straight gut-punch.

[@EndOfSmallSanctuary97]

The fact that Jackie Earl Hayley was a huge fan of Watchmen and auditioned for the role of Rorschach because of that makes it so much better, too. The guy put his heart and soul into this performance.

[@tylerbutterfras3421]

Man the somber “do it” and then the raging “do it” hits hard. Jackie Earl killed it as Rorschach.

[@TevyaSmolka]

poor Rorschach :(

[@smear8224]

Tevya Smolka sounded like he kind of wanted it. But yeah, he was a good guy

[@TevyaSmolka]

yup indeed

[@lisag5002]

The truth is Rorschach sacrificed his life so the others would drop their guard. He knew he left that book of secrets so the truth would be exposed.

[@TevyaSmolka]

yup indeed

[@tracyhorne1180]

Tevya Smolka,so sad he died knowing no one loved him except god

[@Jafroboy]

How Batman vs Superman would actually go.

[@Bazonkaz]

+Jafroboy lmao for real!

[@danicar9654]

Jesus, choked on my drink there.

[@optimusbee214]

lmao

[@oldaccount1608]

I'm saying. honesty fuck this new DC universe in the movies. it suck

[@robegondrp5677]

I will vomit on you It'd be more like early DBZ: once Rorschach recognizes Batman as an unrepentant sociopath, he holds him down in a full-nelson as Superman burns through the pair with Heat Vision (justified as a double mercy killing.) Manhattan nods silently with approval and admiration for the other Big Blue. The End.

[@_thomaswaldron]

Despite Rorschach hating on humanity, seeing the horrors that mankind bring upon themselves, when he was faced with Adrian's lie... Rorschach's decision was to tell someone because it was the right thing to do. At the end of it all, Rorschach cared the most. That's why this death makes me cry.

[@LordRadio13]

"Never Compromise, not even in the face of Armageddon"

[@NateSean]

It's interesting that some people found this to be boring. I guess it's because it's one of the few superhero movies that isn't two and a half hours of superpower porn, but I could be wrong. This is one of the more cerebral films of the genre. The only movies I find that are close to it are Spider Man 1 and 2 (Toby Maguire) and Hancock in terms of storytelling and realism. Like this is how I believe superheroes would effect the real world. The major hitch in Watchmen's side is that there are so many storylines, but I think they juggled them very well and tied them all together in the end. It also ended on a very different note of showing us that the superheroes weren't automatically "right" just because their names were on the title. Everyone here was a tragic hero in the end.

[@joshuaruiz3481]

I like this movie too! It shows that superheroes aren't God . They can't stop all bad things from happening . And in the end they cause millions of people to die to save billions

[@GalaxyKane]

An excellent point

[@sillymcwilly4866]

***** Implies super hero movies aren't supposed to be fun

[@balladofanaddict4526]

Exactly my point

[@BucketOfSuck]

Unfortunately, fanbois hate anything involving superheroes that doesn't mimic CallOfDuty in the respect of having their favorites be OP and flawless. Real comic fans appreciate Watchmen for the timeless masterpiece it is but sadly it will always take flack from those that want it be another Avengers movie. I'm actually glad it was made when it was, before Superhero movies became such a massive phenomenon. Made now, it would have been ruined Im sure, with a lot of wisecracks and silliness.

[@0ion]

I love the added whale sound just before Rorschach's death. Gives me chills every time.

[@SKATTP4CK]

0ion ikr

[@narcssius]

Rorschach became a rorschach.

[@TET2005]

Rorschach became a giant rorschach ink blot.

[@kelvinadkins3436]

I don’t gaf, this is the best comic book movie to ever fall upon mankind