Is Jude Bellingham Overrated?

The big question is not whether Jude Bellingham has the ability to lead England to Euros glory. The 20-year-old has already been the decisive player for the biggest club in the world this season and has worn the expectations, Real Madrid badge, and last summer’s €103m transfer from Borussia Dortmund with the ease of the most talented schoolkid on the playground running rings around his mates...
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[@RoryJenningsFootball]

Is Jude overrated?

[@Somalipirate0]

100% but he is only 20 so he can only get better and better . 2030 world cup he will be 26 and hopefully will become a world class player

[@Foos3yOW]

Definitely. He’s not even better than prime Emile Smith Rowe

[@youtuberanonymous6491]

Yes. He is good. But overrated.

[@marcus8030]

You are the same person that called Pirlo average one of the best passers the game as ever seen and then say Rice is top 2 midfielders in the world 😂😂😂

[@marcus8030]

It is a travesty you get paid to talk about football. The disrespect to Pirlo is astonishing

[@zahidulalam8892]

People think overrated automatically means bad. No, you can be a great player but still be overrated. Jude is a very good player but the way people compare him with legends like Iniesta at this stage of his career causes people to see him as overrated

[@Deathmare235]

I wouldn’t even say he’s overrated just overhyped, when people rate him it’s usually fairly and never near iniesta

[@user-tz2yp5jl2w]

He’s got over 30 goals and assists which is record breaking for any debut midfielder in Madrids history (including. Back to back el Classico winners) at only 20yrs old. Think about all the midfielders who joined Madrid (in their prime). How’s that overrated? Is every English player overrated because they’ve had a poor tournament?

[@user-tz2yp5jl2w]

@@Deathmare235 that’s a great point actually

[@nihlify]

If you want to argue logic then comparing two players doesn't mean you equate the two...

[@Adrian-fj7bd]

@@user-tz2yp5jl2w Joselu scored 17 goals barely getting any minutes as 9 for madrid. Bellingham played as a 9 for Madrid not a midfield.

[@ZakumiiiGaming]

Saying Jude Bellingham is better then iniesta is a crime in itself 😂 The fuck are these people smoking

[@talimomolapo128]

It's the fish and chips diet

[@Minhaja12345]

who said that?😂

[@bondian]

Iniesta is only footballer in history to win the Man of the Match award in a World Cup Final, a Euro Final and a Champions League Final. One of the greatest midfielders of all time. Bellingham is not in that tier.

[@ZakumiiiGaming]

@@Minhaja12345 all over the internet.

[@ZakumiiiGaming]

@@bondian it’s an insult to even compare them

[@jon8236]

He will probably play at 8 again for Madrid next year. Southgate needs to put him next to rice and put foden at 10. It’s not that difficult.

[@jon8236]

He’s currently trying to occupy the same space as Foden and Kane. It’s terrible management.

[@lukebashian5591]

Put foden on the bench he’s been totally ass

[@mh.1.]

@@lukebashian5591_Hes actually been better than Jude most the tournament lol_

[@mayukhbasu1742]

He will be sold by Real in the next 3 years

[@BiggestChungus21]

He’s probably still gonna be a roaming 10 for Madrid but not score as much. He’s still gonna be the best in the world nonetheless. The problem is that England didn’t go full Bellingham from what I’ve seen. These dudes need to run like him. But they don’t. They like the ball to their feet and not move unless they have the ball.

[@4lj4zz]

Anyone who watches Madrid games knows that Jude has been playing like this for a while now

[@kieran5246]

Got 6 g/a in his last 7 at Madrid (all comps) but has been doing nothing there for a while now lol Made 17 key passes and a few big chances too

[@marquez337]

​@@kieran5246he's been terrible

[@samukelisiwemudau3553]

Jude Bellingham is overrated

[@joshuataylor3550]

He had one bad game, relax.

[@Foos3yOW]

Not even better than prime Emile Smith Rowe. He should be dropped

[@savaugee7322]

He plays like this every game ​@@joshuataylor3550

[@MultiBurger1]

No way. He is very tired

[@Talentn]

​@@joshuataylor3550it didn't take time for the talking to start

[@BrandonAyong]

This is what mourinho said in the CL final "He's amazing but why ? Because he is in the biggest club in football history where the standards are extremely high with a manager that is a proper manager win win win and with a simple structure. President takes care of money . Sporting director negotiates with other clubs and the manager focuses on football and winning matches . Simplicity is genius and complexity is to hide that you're not good enough " Now match those criterias with England and see why him and kane sre failing the euros

[@bluesEvanskro]

I mean it can’t help going from Don Carlo to Gareth Southgate 😂

[@BrandonAyong]

​@@bluesEvanskroPrecisely 😂

[@hashimrahman51]

Got nothing to do with southgate whatsoever I suppose? Yes, question the world class players vs a relegation fodder manager. 😂😂😂

[@alexandernoussis1943]

I don't understand why everyone is so reluctant to drop Bellingham back to a no.8 and let Foden play CAM, making space on the left. Bellingham has played there plenty of times for England

[@hottakehylas]

Yep with Gordon on the left. Why the f**K not try it at this point? Id also have Palmer on the right for this game after how much he tore the pitch up the other day. Easy choices in my mind

[@godimready2go]

Noones reluctant about it except the manager

[@Arctioa]

I think foden would be playing as 10 right now if foden didn’t have such an ass game vs Iceland when he was given the 10 shirt and role lmao. Y’all can’t really be mad at southgate after that game

[@eazy9290]

Starting to think most people did not watch Jude at Real Madrid. Jude did not play as a 10, Real Madrid never played with 3 forwards and 3 midfielders. All these "analysts" should stick to talking about the few Premier League games they actually watched.

[@gavinleonard6430]

The vicious circle. Shite manager cant set up a team >players play badly>shite manager changes players. Rinse repeat.

[@footballhipstertv]

Rory himself said after England's first game at the euros that Judes performance was the best midfield performance he's ever seen in an England shirt 😂😂😂

[@styrishfernando1849]

He is reactionary He said tushchel should leave chelsea then once sacked asks why He said pochutino should leave chelsea then once sacked asks why

[@tomekkaminski2677]

That's his shtick , watch him change his mind 2 more times during tournament

[@AdamLynch-ku5gj]

He’s not just overrated, he’s not even a good player…

[@Ballin-97]

If England consistently underperforms during major tournaments, maybe most English footballers are overrated?

[@04lraffaini]

WORD! say it louder so the people at the back can hear!

[@tk78junior64]

this logic can applied to every nation and every player

[@Ballin-97]

@@tk78junior64 No. Germany, Spain, Italy and France have won major tournaments this century

[@redx4557]

Exactly

[@Deathmare235]

@@Ballin-97not with these players

[@w4st3m]

'Andrea Pirlo is bang average' 😂

[@tt99football56]

I missed him saying that, which time did he say it? Crazy to think Pirlo was average.

[@ghsense2626]

Saw Jude in the knockout stages in the champions league and he was outplayed everytime. He had a good season in Spain but at the highest level he gets found wanting. The only thing going for him is his hustle but loking at world class players of the past hes ordinary not skillful or a maestro or have the guile to be called world class

[@samuelwachira6170]

What does he do that McTominay can't do? Scott would look world-class playing in a midfield with Valverde and Tchuameni/Camavinga doing all the donkey work. He'd just be popping into the box and scoring flukes like Bellingham does. Jude is more than overrated!!

[@hashimrahman51]

You are clueless.

[@lindanixaba1227]

Casual enough?

[@leehaslam5751]

Lets start with the fact jude won motm 15 times for madrid last season he was madrids top goal scorer at 20 from midfield.he has won player of the year in Germany and spain in the last 2 seasons.i mean cos u watch england being crap cos of Southgate u think mctomiany is better 😂😂😂

[@hookah998]

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠@@hashimrahman51 But is he isn’t, McTominay is bootycheeks but manages to score a couple of goals. Jude’s abilities are simply overrated.

[@EdumBarca31]

Barcelona fans had been saying this since January where he dropped off for Madrid and people were calling us crazy

[@alexistecca408]

Glad Bellingham getting called out now

[@kieran5246]

Still dunked on your head top at the Bernabeu April

[@FootballMan-eb6qx]

He literally dunked on Barca in last Elclassico didn't he and he is anyway better than your overrated Pedri and Gavi

[@perpsbajginca2787]

Just because Madrid play him as a 10 doesn't mean he is a 10. The reason he moved into a 10 is because Madrid don't have space for him in that midfield. Kroos, Tuchameni, Modric, Valverde and Camavinga. But for England he should be playing next to Rice. He has the legs and it should be Bellingham and Rice together with Foden in front.

[@Adamgs2023]

Mad how many people calling him overrated embarrassing to be quite honest 20 year old madrids top goalscorer ucl league title debut season and got England 3 points against Serbia. He could play 100 games and play 12 bad games all them be judged but the 88 he plays 10/10 in won’t be looked at just expected

[@dontbewoke]

He's scored 4 in 31 for England....not world class numbers

[@Marrab2]

Yes he is very overrated media talks about him like he is prime Messi when in reality he’s just a normal hardworking kid who havent showed us that natural talent yet

[@user-ze5oj1dj6o]

No he is that Natural Talented Kid who has not showed hard work yet ;)

[@youtuberanonymous6491]

People compare Jude to Iniesta😂 Dafuq is wrong with people. He has quality, but he is not bossing games consistently like the true greats. He ghosts some games, performs in others, and has some moments of brilliance. He’s a good RM player in an average RM team. Not a great player in a great RM. No need to compare him to the greats yet.

[@dhavalvala3195]

?average RM team ?

[@youtuberanonymous6491]

@@dhavalvala3195 most definitely. I grew up watching RM with Zidane, Figo, Raul, Ronaldo(9), Carlos. After that came the era with R7 etc. What would you say about todays team compared to the really good generations of RM? I’d say almost below average. They won the UCL, but I think City is a stronger side. They won the Primera, but Barca is but a shadow of its former glory.

[@Adamgs2023]

They have won 14 ucls since UCL was a thing 6 of them was in the last 9 years u cannot call a Real Madrid team of any era overrated lmao they are the best club in the world with the best players in the world.

[@youtuberanonymous6491]

@@Adamgs2023 who the fuck called RM overrated? The question is whether this current RM - the one Jude plays in - is good by recent historical standards of RM. I say it’s a great team, but average by RM standards. Jude is IN NO WAY Zidane.

[@Adamgs2023]

@@youtuberanonymous6491 I meant average which is a load of bollocks pal Jude been there a year u can’t compare Jude to zidane after a year u can’t compare ex pros to current pros until they retire just know Bellingham this season made best ever g/a for Madrid in their history from a number 10 spot at age 20 for biggest club in world not too bad is it...

[@anshumansahu1087]

The year 2024 will witness the worst Ballon D'or winner in the history of football.

[@nahomkebede5107]

nedved won it 😂

[@Jacob56-xl4xo]

He was better than Bellingham ​@@nahomkebede5107

[@FootballMan-eb6qx]

Owen won it in 2001 can't be worse than that that was undeserving

[@pratiksable1034]

As a Real Madrid fan I am loving all this Jude criticism This will take some time, but it will elevate him towards even greater levels

[@bluesEvanskro]

People forget he’s only 20 sometimes

[@pratiksable1034]

@@bluesEvanskro nah its all fine, Its all part of the long process. Jude had massive successful season with Real Madrid. Jude just experienced what it feels like to get appreciation from every corner of the football world, but he should be also aware of ugly side of the football world when you encounter failure and world will hate you. I can see Jude is mentally frustrated right now And there is quick fix for this issue, just call any Real Madrid legend like Modric, Kroos, Carvajal, Ramos and talk with them for 10-15 mins and they can guide him to deal with his current situation because these players have experienced these situations and turn around the tables many times But I want Jude to take hard path absorb these criticisms and figure the way out himself, that way he will grow and become stronger

[@bluesEvanskro]

@@pratiksable1034 bro that’s actually some good deep advice for not only Jude but for a lot of young people😂

[@timmyjoshua276]

@@pratiksable1034 this is a bit funny he is young don't try and judge him, he is the best don't judge him what do we do then just give him the balondor?, most football fans know jude is a good player but he is not anywhere near the top for now, eye test matters, see these guys you named it took time before anyone really said they are great they were known to be good then became great, jude is being propped up to be the big thing already so lets analyze him like we do every player thats the next big thing remember fati, let me tell you why people doubt him really he isn't playing the position that suits his ability, jude is not a 10 he can play there but his best position is an 8, he isn't creative enough to be a 10 and his first touch sometimes isn't good that 10 position shows his weaknesses not his strengths, its like playing kante in the 10 because he can drive with the ball, in the first england game jude dropped back a lot to get the ball from the defence and he played through thats where he should be

[@timmyjoshua276]

@@bluesEvanskro musiala is as young as him and he isnt this hyped, its the media really, if jude gives a pass they tell you its amazing smh

[@ABESW0RLD]

Geezer says PIRLO is overrated but rates Bellingham. What foolish set of opinions

[@joshuakithyoma9575]

Pirlo overrated?😂 pirlo is a 1 of 1 player in football history ...Lampard is overrated 😴

[@rob92rs]

In what sense is he playing the same position? For England he's played 10 and for Real he's played false 9

[@BlueThanosMaster]

false 9 for real madrid? bro he has more defensive stats than kdb he not a false 9 :DDD unless kdb is a striker then

[@rob92rs]

@@BlueThanosMaster He literally plays in the centre of a front 3 of Vinicius and Rodrygo with license to drop deeper. That is the definition of a false 9. KDB plays with Haaland ahead. That is not a false 9.

[@maxjones731]

Finally someone has the balls to say he’s overrated, he ghosted in like every champions league games , so many ppl saying world class and already one of England’s best players ever 🤣🤣

[@FastCheetah-oq6kj]

People already comapring Bellingham to Lampard Beckham Scholes. People are mad. Bellingham plays poorly and masks it up with goals

[@jedbarlow3567]

‘Balls’… digging out englands players during a tournament. Really beneficial that! His names ‘Rory’ and you think he’s English 🤣 he’s Scottish clearly. I bet you think Henderson shouldn’t have gone too don’t you

[@noahjones9557]

“Phil Foden is playing so well” sorry what😂. Have you been watching these games?!

[@shootermcgavin2026]

He didn't say that

[@Neatguyjake]

@@shootermcgavin2026hello? He said that multiple times

[@NathanKing-kd3mb]

Most dangerous attacker we started in the last 2 by a distance have you been watching?

[@Tom-dn6zy]

He was the best attacking player in the last 2 games

[@noahjones9557]

@@NathanKing-kd3mb people just need to take bias away. He’s done nothing of note. Ran into traffic many times

[@daaljones9584]

Worldwide he is rated perfectly in England he is extremely overrated just like the full England squad Rory himself thinks every player is the best in their position

[@davidoconnor7709]

I don't understand the clamour for foden to play as a ten he doesn't play there for city in fact he's played more on the left for pep than he has through the middle. Jude needs a runner infront of him ie Watkins as kane isn't up to it and likes to play in judges space. Southgate also doesn't have the balls to drop Jude for fear that if it goes wrong he will be blamed by the cams and media. Having mainoo in the 8 will help him over Gallagher being there

[@rickipaddon6962]

Massively overrated. Fuck me, how many times did he give the ball away the other night against Slovenia? Anyone commenting could score a few goals at Real Madrid with those players around you, different calibre.

[@zack7438]

then why didn't you play for Real Madrid?

[@rickipaddon6962]

@@zack7438 Don’t like ‘em. Their fans are fickle. They’ll turn on Jude once he has a few crap matches

[@user-ze5oj1dj6o]

@@rickipaddon6962 Last good match he had was at Dortmund, you cannot take Real's other players performance as Jude's performance. Once you go check that and realize it is fact you know he is just a fraud ;)

[@user-re9mp2nh5e]

Talent without character is a waste of talent. If he doesn't make an impact in this tournament, you have to question his character. I remember watching Dutch TV back in the 90s and the football panel pundits, which include some of the Dutch's great names said of Gazzer, he has the talent to be great but not the character to be great. Strength of character being a self starter without reliance on others is a must.

[@user-ze5oj1dj6o]

Yup I agree, that's why Musiala and Wirtz are already miles ahead of him despite not having the fancy overpriced price tag!

[@colinmc2945]

He spent a year at madrid basically being allowed to poach for Madrid without doing any major CM work. Now he's in CM being asked to do more and he's not doing it. He is overrated based on how he's playing that position right now, its lazy.

[@Deathmare235]

He’s not even playing as a CM, he’s playing as a 10

[@Azza10x]

@@Deathmare235 he's a false 9 which his job is to drop deep link up and then arrive in box late he has no place in England team while Foden and Kane are there. Madrid will definitely gid rid of him in a year or 2 i reckon as they'll find a proper midfielder

[@Deathmare235]

@@Azza10x what team do you support

[@hajun9656]

Get rid of Bellingham?Nigga what?​@@Azza10x

[@henryb-uz9tl]

​@@Azza10xyou are a very odd person lol😂😂

[@ca3386]

The commentary against Serbia was embarrassing. Watched him play a 4 yard pass and the commentator started orgasming about how elegant the 4 yard pass was Him and Foden are so overrated. Nowhere near Ballon D’ors

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

Foden isn't overrated. Lol. Your statement proves he's underrated. The fact Southgate plays Blacktominay in his no 10 position proves Foden is underrated.

[@ca3386]

Foden is very overrated. You’ve been calling him a future ballon d’or winner since he come out of the academy. Don’t waffle bollocks. Having one very good club season doesn’t defeat the fact you’ve overrated him for years

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

@@ca3386 who's been calling him a future balon d'or winner? Foden isn't overrated. He's underrated. And you're a moron. Moving on

[@lethalliam7241]

He's top 5 or 6 best players in the world right now which is unreal at 20. He has the potential to be one of the best ever, but not yet.

[@ThekingEC7]

Rory its not the same position as he plays at RM. He plays as a false 9 with no striker ahead of him! Totally different to having kane in front of him. It's him or kane for me and kane wins. Play Foden at 10 and bring jude off the bench to crash the box late

[@Deathmare235]

Or have him at 8

[@BlueThanosMaster]

jude does more defensive work on club level than the likes of kdb so dont think he plays false 9 cause it would be weird to have a player with more GA and defensive work than kdb

[@ThekingEC7]

@@BlueThanosMaster bro its got nothing to do with GA, look at his position in RM's lineups. He plays like a striker with Vini and Rodrygo on either wing

[@Deathmare235]

@@BlueThanosMaster check the lineup he plays as a cf

[@jimmyhurt]

Be me: Looks at title. "No." Doesn't watch rest of video.

[@axesus6966]

He is so overrated

[@pratiksable1034]

1 Month ago = Jude won UCL and La Liga Now = Jude is overrated 15 years from now = Jude is the greatest English player of all time

[@nicolasacosta2762]

statements like that are the reason people find him overrated

[@Deathmare235]

@@parklife.they’d have the right Englishmen, why Southgate isn’t adding tomori to the squad is beyond me

[@Vilutusk]

@@parklife.ridiculous comment. He wouldn’t have been bought by Real Madrid if he wasn’t as phenomenal as he is. You’re just butt hurt that he’s English

[@user-ze5oj1dj6o]

Jude did not win UCL or La Liga. Real Madrid did, he just got lucky to be in a squad where everybody around him is making him look good by giving him the easy tasks. He was good at Dortmund but not great, at Real Madrid he has not been good at all, just lucky that the rest make it so easy for him. He is gotten lazy, now that the level of performance around him dropped in the english squad he looks like a blind clueless donkey who does not know what to do because he is so used others to do the hard work for him so he can sack in the assists/goals easily. He and Harry Kane are actually very bad, Harry Kane wouldn't even score as much if it wasn't for a team Like Bayern Munich with players like Musiala who do all the work so he can tap in. English squad is overrated, overpriced and overhyped. Reason why Haaland for example is doing better in the premier league than in the Bundesliga is probably because the premier league is easier than the Bundesliga. Sure the premier league is more competitive because most of the teams are sheeet! So equally sheeet teams will be more competitive to each other. Honestly right now I think the best two Leagues are La Liga and Bundesliga, followed by Seria A and Ligue A which then is followed by the Premier League. If it wasn't for Man City who is buying all the talents from Bundesliga and La Liga the prem would be not even in the discussion, you can thank players like KDB and Haaland that you guys make it in 5th place honestly. And honestly 15 years from now if everybody says Jude is the best English player of all time, that means he was the best player in the best player in 2nd Bundesliga, who cares?!?!

[@ryanh2934]

He just needs a rest. We’ve got Slovenia in the next round, a team with Gordon on the left, foden in the middle, Palmer on the right and Watkins up top is still more than good enough to beat Slovenia, and it gives Kane, Bellingham and Saka a mini break which they probably need to rejuvenate them for the remaining games

[@michaelcorleone7598]

He’s a great player who is only going to get better. Having said that, he’s way overhyped by the media to point where they’re making comparisons to Zidane!

[@sarryuken8786]

If hes overrated, then how is he doing so good at the best team in the world? Shouldn’t he be a flop at Real? Any England player under Southgate is a flop. Doesn’t mean anything.

[@timmyjoshua276]

bro joselu has 17 goals guess he isnt a flop

[@user-ze5oj1dj6o]

It's easy if the Squad around you is doing the work, but the English squad is not doing it for him hence why he is not reflecting his price tag of 180m. He had a few moments at Real Madrid but no good overall performance yet, a good coach who realizes that would sack and replace him with someone else. Not saying he is bad, but not the one they are trying to make him. You cannot make another Ronaldo or Messi out of any talent, sorry. His individual effort is just not there, he most of the times is not even trying.

[@chlobix22]

Rory lose the music mate.

[@KwasiTitus-wt4eh]

I'm a Madrid fan he is ...but he is a madrista ..and has helped us this season ..hope his performances improve next season

[@fakereality3792]

All the English players are overrated.

[@thefutbolfollower8326]

Most of them are but Jude isn’t one of them.

[@fakereality3792]

@@thefutbolfollower8326 I’m not buying all the hype !

[@Deathmare235]

Except for foden and stones

[@Deathmare235]

@@fakereality3792should’ve seen Madrid

[@BlueThanosMaster]

@@fakereality3792 he wont care about u dont worry theres a reason why he won 2 POTS at 20

[@dylanjsharp]

How has no one acknowledged that Foden is constantly dropping into the middle and forcing Bellingham outside? I mean, we saw him playing what looked to be left winger quite often last game. Seems selfish of Foden and Bellingham is just filling in the empty space constantly on left. Also, Foden looks bored on the left getting no service from trippier. That left side is shambles.

[@LINTON1985]

To early to say he his world class and to early to say he is overrated. I think Southgate just sucks the life out of any attacking mentality

[@12Hydrocarbon]

Foden and Jude came head to head and City literally destroyed them. Foden controlled that game.

[@BlueThanosMaster]

he didnt, u must've watched with tv off

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

But he did.

[@BlueThanosMaster]

@@FormerPessitheRobberfan he won the game not sure where the "controlling game" happened

[@12Hydrocarbon]

@@BlueThanosMaster City vs Madrid was like attack vs defense. Jude didn’t touch ball for long periods of the game. Go rewatch it on KZbin.

[@BlueThanosMaster]

@@12Hydrocarbon ye because madrid play low block and hit on counter IT MAKES SENSE jude has less of the ball, you rate what player does with the ball not how long he got the ball 🤣🤣they scored 4 without the ball and city scored 4 with the ball

[@christianleacock6796]

Great Rory, questions need to asked on players as well.

[@bluesEvanskro]

So the latest lineup that everyone is clamouring for is drop Bellingham for mainoo, drop saka for palmer with Gordon on the left and foden in the 10. I’d love to know why everyone wants to play the exact same team that lost at home to Iceland 🤔😂

[@jacklowe3037]

I’m sorry get a grip. Palmer got 20 minutes and did more than saka has all tournament (you must be a blind arsenal fan.) and Gordon got 2 minutes at the end and we nearly scored cos Gordon committed the cardinal sin of playing a forward pass that broke the lines and set Mainoo, Kane and Palmer through on a counter attack

[@bluesEvanskro]

@@jacklowe3037 didn’t you read the comment? Everything you just said is simply irrelevant when that team is the team that lost at home to Iceland, case closed

[@jacklowe3037]

@@bluesEvanskro yeah but it wasn’t the players fault. The manager is holding them back. If we was managed by a progressive coach I’m convinced we’d beat that Iceland side. So I’d give them a second chance and the let the loose. Don’t hold them back and tell them to sit in and pass sideways and backwards. Look at our side of the draw. Sorry we should make the final but Southgate will hold us back. I don’t care “That it was the same team that played against Iceland” the Iceland game wasn’t on the players it was on Southgate plane and simple.

[@bluesEvanskro]

@@jacklowe3037 and there we go you hit the nail on the head mate hats my point. Whatever team goes out, whoever we think should be dropped for who, they’ll still underperform simply because gareth Southgate is in charge

[@err4071]

Fodens gone home to England to see his pregnant wife who is due to give birth. I doubt he will be back for the slovakia game, or in any conditions to play if he does come back, he may not come back at all to be honest. Talk of foden playing in any position is un realistic at this moment, but one things for sure Gordon, Eza or Palmer will definitely be picked out wide on the left in the slovakia game. This can also effect southgates decision on the number 10 position also, he may use Gordon out wide with Palmer as cover, or he could possibly use palmer as cover for Bellingham. If that happens and Bellingham doesn't step up Palmer could work his way into that position if he plays better than Bellingham.

[@luker2273]

Birmingham city fan here so I should be even more bias towards jude , and ability wise he's up there with any midfielder. Though for me the thing I'm not liking which he never had on the pitch before is some petulance . He is always moaning and stropping with his head down . Now bellingham has always been confident with leadership qualities but for me I'm worried the ego is getting to him a bit much . The best midfielders in the world have full control not only of the pitch and ball but themselves too. Let the emotion erupt when you score or smash someone with a great tackle but bellingham is just looking too hot headed and bothered and this type of behaviour negatively effects the team. Bellingham was always a cool calm confident young man with a bit of bite and fight about him. But lately he's looking like a flustered hot head leaning towards arrogant who screams and shouts not to lead but to simply have a whinge. And well if you're not in control of your emotions and in the right mindset you can't get the best of your ability and that's what I'm seeing. Someone who's attitude has changed for the worst and is making him unable to utilise his ability Most people think he's the complete package who should be and is ready to be the star man for England I think this makes him over rated. As for me he's still a young player with heaps of ability and could indeed be a footballing legend but its silly for us as a nation to rely on a midfielder his age. Its simply unheard of for a 20 year old midfielder to expected to be a main man in a team with our level of talent in the squad . Absolutely nothing wrong with rotating a 20 year old midfielder with lots of talent but maybe too much expectation.

[@simonstewart5277]

Need to remove this belief of ‘Kane/Bellingham/Rice can’t be dropped’. If they’re not performing it’s not good enough. Their name shouldn’t carry them through bad form when there are players ready to perform

[@ijlaltahir5214]

Yes

[@SteveAustin-zv1nn]

Username checks out.

[@braxtonmay391]

I'm sure it's just some kind of engagement farming but saying Jude has been 'absolutely anonymous' and 'invisible' is eyerollingly hyperbolic

[@wayneverhoff2790]

Just cause he’s trying to play the way he always does doesn’t mean England plays anywhere near how Real Madrid does. He also played in a multiple different ways

[@dixieflatline1189]

He is not over rated. He’s physically shagged, like most of the big names. He’s fighting on the pitch for his position with both Kane and Foden. Trippier is 100% a problem. Southgate tactics….

[@balintherceghalmi9883]

Stating that he plays the same game as in RM is a bit wild i'd say, i agree that he underperformed last 2 games but 3 players are contesting the place of the number 10 on the pitch (Foden cause he doesn't feel well on the LW, Kane who drops constantly, and Jude who plays an attacking 8 kind of play), the 10 space is so overcrowded in that team its insane, to prevent that last game he played half the game in LW thats just terrible, its as bad as playing Guehi as a number 10, I'm not trying to say that Jude's performance is okay but i think the fish stinks from the head, you can't expect him to be good playing as a LW and contesting a number 10 place when 2 other players are there, neither can Foden perform on 100% when 2 others are contesting his preffered place on the pitch and nor Kane can if he doesn't have the pacy wingers that he could supply his passes running back. This is not a system, this is just making players who know 1 thing play others trying to play Foden as a winger, trying to play Kane as a whatever i don't even know what Southgate wants with him, and sometimes playing Jude as a stiff, stationary playmaker, sometimes wanting him to be a LW sometimes an attacking midfielder sometimes a defensive midfielder, sometimes a second striker. I think simply Jude is such a mess there because he is not even told what to do he is like the ultimate "do whatever is needed on the pitch even if you are supbar in that"

[@zcody3933]

100% correct

[@CheeseyMilkshakes]

Gareth is not playing him in his exact position, first minute and you’ve already screwed up. He isn’t a 10 for Madrid, he’s a false 9 playing behind two rapid wingers.

[@user-ub4hw1wg8m]

Modern number 10s and false 9s play generaly in the same areas .He just has been underwhelming

[@JoshuaGuevara7]

@@user-ub4hw1wg8mnot really

[@youllneverknow_123]

I’ve always said Foden was better than Bellingham but hey what do I know, I’m just a baseball fan.

[@youllneverknow_123]

Also Kane ain’t all that either…

[@bevaughnhenry4983]

so yall overrated him...and then when we plays bad for two games you all say he's overrated???

[@utwxyz123]

He is a good player but the way people are hyping him as some zidane level player is not true . He isn't a player who is on the ballon dr winning level . I think many people don't like him because he has a bit of an arrogant personality or comes across like that .

[@stevemorison3787]

It says it all that these sorts of questions are asked about English players when England play and not during the club season.

[@julu8407]

Southgate is not the problem. Last time we didn't have Jude and foden was on the bench. Case closed.

[@Luke-kj1rj]

Absolutely, the media circlejerk around bellingham is surreal. First touch like a trampoline and goes missing in big games. Musiala is superior.

[@hashimrahman51]

They play different positions.

[@ashtonalmond9024]

He is 20 years old

[@DavidDavis-ti4qc]

@@ashtonalmond902421 today lol

[@Imrxssi]

A lot of ppl who don't watch Real Madrid commenting that hes overrated.

[@SombrerosFC]

Bellingham is only 20 years old. The term overrated is used way too frequently in my opinion. He has been hyped up incredbly. He has not had any impact because of the utterly defensive setup chosen by Southgate. Also has been a very long season, including a UCL final…to pin it all on a 20 year old while the experienced guys get away with it doesn‘t sit right with me!

[@Fumblingthroughlifeonline]

All of the current crop of ”world class” talent is over rated. There’s nobody in ⚽️ now anywhere near CR7, Messi, Rooney, Bale, Zidane ibrahimovic etc.

[@Captain_Mash]

Can we please talk about Harry Kane … he’s the older player, he’s the one who should be leading, I’d play Toney or Watkins, these midfielders really don’t have a target man when there guy is always running into midfield , it’s tragic

[@davidwebster4871]

Yes massively, still a great player but nothing what our media paints him to be

[@hookah998]

All this shows is that Bellingham next season will be quickly overshadowed and exposed in Real Madrid now that he won’t be given the position to poach goals since Mbappe is joining

[@letswalkandwalk]

Jude Birmingham has a poor first touch

[@robweaver6618]

No way he's played so many games for Madrid this year

[@stephenflynn1003]

Maybe leave belligham on bench, bring him on 65th min, play fodon in his proper postion

[@-_-DatDude]

Jude Bellingham is not overrated. The dynamics of this England squad is all wrong. Look at how much runners he has at Madrid first 11... Vini Jr, Rodrygo, Mendy, Valverde and now they are adding Mbappe and Endrick. Compare that to what he has to work with in the England first 11. The only player that consistently runs in behind is Walker. Theres a lack of pure athleticism in this England first 11. We have too many technicians in our 11. Everyone wants to come deep and want ball to feet. Which leaves us with no shape and the inability to stretch teams.

[@JoelGreen-dt4xz]

Overrated goes missing to much in games

[@rocarolan2003]

Same issue of the past. They just put the best players on the pitch even if it clearly doesn't work. Remember when scholes/Carrick didnt play together to fit gerard in. Drop all of Bellingham, kane and foden.

[@stanettiels7367]

Doesn’t help when Kane is constantly dropping into areas where Jude operates. Constantly having to move around what Kane is doing.

[@stormsherrington5242]

Hes 20 years old for christ sake. Give the kid a rest

[@kylehughes3850]

Cole palmer offers far more to worse teams then Bellingham has played in. Literally carried Chelsea all season almost on his own. And shows his class in 20 odd minutes for England yet again while at Jude Gareth’s little buddy has played every game and barely showed anything more then the others

[@BlueThanosMaster]

jude at club lvl, POTS + UCL, palmer conference league

[@kylehughes3850]

@@BlueThanosMasterpalmer won young player the the year and just missed out on the golden boot from haaland in the premier league and he’s not even a striker, (much harder league than la liga) in his first season !. In a very poor team. Jude surrounded by world class players who won the ucl with him he didn’t do it alone!. Palmer is a better player imo

[@BlueThanosMaster]

@@kylehughes3850 young player of the year isnt relevant 🫡 you either best or 2nd best also u act palmer doesnt have 1b+ team around him and the fact that he scored atleast 10 pens

[@BlueThanosMaster]

@@kylehughes3850 theres a reason one won 2 pots at 20 and other sat on beach at 20 in city

[@kylehughes3850]

@@BlueThanosMaster yeh because he joined Real Madrid he’s overrated

[@Phil_Mitchell]

He's not the jewel of the Bernabaru, that's Vinicius. And Jude will fall down the pecking order further when Mbappe arrives

[@monkeyface6139]

Bellingham has become a hype monster already ; he's believing his own marketing. He's becoming unbearable. Watch how the English media savage him to death.

[@MindfulMastery-]

I don't think he's overrated since every player in the England squad looks average under Southgate. I wonder why

[@lamino8-tg6ro]

So much disrespect for Jude by fans after he won the 1st match for England. Name me 1 thing ghost Foden has ever done for England ?😏

[@Arctioa]

I don’t know if he’s overrated. Ever since he got that shoulder injury in February and has been putting off getting surgery he hasn’t been the same player.

[@Kwisgaar]

He's a good player with an immense ceiling, but the english press calls him the greatest player to ever put on an English shirt. Of course he's overrated, but give him time. He's still young. There is no need to compare him to the greats, as of now.

[@rulaalsamarie3607]

No, he tied and injured. It’s the manager responsibility.leave Jude alone don’t destroy him 😢

[@AreYouSeeryus]

I don't think I've ever seen so much hype for such a bang average, McTominay-type box crasher. He stinks on the ball, always chasing his first touch, can't pass, aimlessly slides in for tackles. English fans are delusional

[@nahomkebede5107]

all that's left is to ask you the question on your user name 😂 if not I will call your intelligence Into question

[@FormerPessitheRobberfan]

​@@nahomkebede5107 Bellingham is just a more technical McTominay.

[@user-hp8or5fg8b]

A guy who played a striker in the team with the best distribution in the last 10 years and finished with 20 or some goals and he suddenly becomes the best player in the world come on if joselu played the matches he played he would have outscored him and now in the euros u put the obvious better player out of position u deserve your fate

[@Frangipani13]

disappointed to see the pile on a young (black) player. England doesn't deserve to go through and should have had a mass exit after the terrible abuse certain players suffered after the Italy loss in that final.

[@ross370]

If this is Foden playing well then I don’t know anymore😂😂

[@marchingbolivian5823]

No he is not overrated. He’s brilliant.

[@onlyinmzansi6784]

Bro has been performing for more than 50 games last season and after 3 bad games, WITH ENGLAND😂😂. and you think he's overrated?

[@hrklsrpr3115]

So Rory wants the same lineup that played against Iceland? I think this is an excellent idea.

[@lawrencebaker1811]

I havent seen a good performance from him in months. In the champions league in the latter stages he was a ghost.

[@vicjames3256]

Phil Foden is playing so well? That's not even what you said a couple days ago. Rory strikes again.

[@arrianfarr949]

I would drop him, at least temporarily. Starting XI against Slovakia: Pickford, Alexander-Arnold, Stones, Guehi, Walker (Maybe Gomez), Mainoo, Rice, Saka Foden, Gordon, Kane!

[@andreacarbonari]

Yes he is, but he is still very strong. Anyway you can't compare what he does in Real Madrid because the last one has Vini e Rodrigo who stretch defenses and allow JB to score a lot. JB is essentially a midfielder.

[@medusa301]

I once heard Skynews comparing him to Zidane

[@adampickford6405]

None are more guilty of overhyping him than you Rory.

[@Nickyc77777]

Jude is overrated but he is defiantly at the point of world class or world class... Potentially Great, we will see

[@JayMagnifique]

No, hes clearly just knackered from playing every game last season and needs a little break

[@jamesdavidson1965]

Mental Foden hasn’t played well at all and Bellingham had a bad game against Slovenia but he has earned his place way more than most especially Foden