After 169 years are White's still the best boots made in the USA?

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Rose Anvil

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@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil Жыл бұрын
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@FgtRtd
@FgtRtd 2 жыл бұрын
Hey at least they stuck with the "spend a weeks pay" for a pair of boots pricing model 😂 joking aside these look magnificent, great job man can't wait to see what else you guys cook up
@thecolonialcraftsman4014
@thecolonialcraftsman4014 2 жыл бұрын
My Nick's and White's were "only" about a 1/3 of a week's wages for me. However, even at that it took me 3-4 years to finally order a pair after I heard about them... I kept thinking that it's a lot of money for boots! Now I have a pair of each with a pair of Nick's hiking boots on order. The price is soon forgotten but the quality lasts for years...
@FgtRtd
@FgtRtd 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecolonialcraftsman4014 yeah I was mostly just going for a bit of humor 😂 but hey whatever the price if they're worth it you can't argue, especially with how much work goes into them.. glad that you find them to your liking , I've had my builder pro's for a few years now and wish I had snagged them sooner myself
@1hdoilfielddad244
@1hdoilfielddad244 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecolonialcraftsman4014 heck, i can buy these with a days work, after taxes, and 650$ for boots is still a tough pill to swallow.
@FgtRtd
@FgtRtd 2 жыл бұрын
@@1hdoilfielddad244 man I need to quick construction and do whatever you do 😮
@1hdoilfielddad244
@1hdoilfielddad244 2 жыл бұрын
@@FgtRtd oilfield. at least youll have a job you can retire from and you probably get to sleep in the same bed every night. pros and cons to everything.
@steverobinson9368
@steverobinson9368 Жыл бұрын
As a smokejumper I bought my White's smokejumper boots 50 years ago and paid $150 for them. Still have those most comfortable boots ever and well worth the money. Quality never grows tiresome.
@AA-BB
@AA-BB Жыл бұрын
Sick brag dog
@x-calibearusallc
@x-calibearusallc Жыл бұрын
I remember buying my first pair of 12” Nick’s Hot Shots in 1988 almost 20 later they had worn into racing slicks and the shafts were so rotten, they told me they couldn’t rebuild them. Enter the 2 pair. That pair were Lineman’s.
@andrewrife6253
@andrewrife6253 Жыл бұрын
As much as I hate to see so many nice boots cut in half I have to think that the sales of these boots have seen a massive increase thanks to this channel. I've become a lot more obsessed with boots since finding this channel and seeing what goes into them is fascinating to me.
@e.nichols5380
@e.nichols5380 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a welder, ranch hand, seasonal wildland firefighter and retired Army Infantryman. I’ve worn a lot of different boots and Whites are hands down the best boots I’ve ever put on my feet. Great video!
@Monster11B
@Monster11B Жыл бұрын
Fellow infantryman... you know how boots are important.
@mickeywhite7878
@mickeywhite7878 Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your service and your work ethic!
@infitada
@infitada Жыл бұрын
what fucking year bro?… 1940?
@e.nichols5380
@e.nichols5380 Жыл бұрын
@@infitada I don’t understand your question. If you’re asking how old I am, I was born in the early 80s my friend.
@stevescoville5122
@stevescoville5122 Жыл бұрын
You forgot Brain Surgeon and Walmart Greeter
@moorshound3243
@moorshound3243 2 жыл бұрын
I really hope they keep doing it this way. But the fact they are owned by a massive buying group will someday see one dickhead on the board say "let's cut costs & use machines to make them instead and keep charging the same price" I really really hope that doesn't happen like it has to almost all boot makers the world over.
@JustBenInLA
@JustBenInLA 2 жыл бұрын
They already do that on their lower end boots. The uppers on some of them are being made in the Dominican Republic.
@travisk5610
@travisk5610 2 жыл бұрын
I had a really bad experience with them rebuilding a pair of boots years ago, I had to send them back a second time and they were still unwearable and they said they would charge for another rebuild. As far as I am concerned it was the end of the real White's when the company got sold, now it's just investors running the brand into the ground as a #heritage #menswear cash grab for the Huckberry crowd.
@googeluser7098
@googeluser7098 2 жыл бұрын
Stop lying, the uppers are not made in Dominican Republic. The “lower end” Whites Boots have a good year welt construction instead of handsewn stitchdown which is the reason they’re cheaper.
@JimKiralfy
@JimKiralfy 2 жыл бұрын
@@googeluser7098 the uppers for the lower tier Goodyear welted White's are made in the Dominican Republic. White's have confirmed this themselves.
@Waldemarvonanhalt
@Waldemarvonanhalt 2 жыл бұрын
@@JustBenInLA You sure you're talking about the same brand (White's)?
@gregstewart7442
@gregstewart7442 2 жыл бұрын
My father worked as a forester. He only ever had two pairs of boots, both Whites Smokejumpers. he got hit first pair in the 60's and wore them daily for over 40 years. If that does not speak to the quality of the boot nothing ever will. BTW I got his first pair as a hand-me-down and wore them until my feet grew out of them.
@fishkluch
@fishkluch Жыл бұрын
Dang he wore the same pair the entire time?
@gregstewart7442
@gregstewart7442 Жыл бұрын
@@fishkluch yes, and was in the field 90% of that time. he had them resoled once I believe.
@bobbystanley8580
@bobbystanley8580 Жыл бұрын
That is truly incredible
@chrishultgren777
@chrishultgren777 Жыл бұрын
This is why selling quality leads to eventual bankruptcy. A business can't survive if it's product is purchased once every 40 years. Buy a quality boot every year even if you don't need them or suffer with mass production from overseas.
@TimTimTomTom
@TimTimTomTom Жыл бұрын
I get the durability argument, as I'm in construction. The thing I can't get over though, is comfort, fatigue induced on the wearer, and just how hard these type of boots are on your feet. Then there's the weight. The military has done studies on the effect of weight on your feet, and 1# on your foot is equal to 7# on your back. So just wearing boots this heavy will by default cause much more fatigue over a day wearing them, and they're hard on your feet/not very comfortable (to me anyway). So yeah, I stick with heavier duty hiking types, Asolo, Salomon, etc. So much more comfortable, more dexterity, less fatigue, and far less expensive. I try to understand why people go nuts over these boots, but other than just the craftsmanship (which is impressive), and durability, I don't really get it. Just look how little insole there is covering those clench nails... hell no. Those are hot spots, pressure points no matter what socks you wear.
@meancuisine8
@meancuisine8 2 жыл бұрын
You caught Mine attention with this one, Weston... i had no idea White's does that with their stitching. This is the type of stuff that keeps Me in the PNW BootsGame. Awesome Content! Awesome Boots!! Awesome Channel!!! Thank You!
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah same I thought for the longest time they were just normal stitchdown boots
@stevenroche9874
@stevenroche9874 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil This last has a very shallow toe box. Not much room for your toes !
@JayyBird93
@JayyBird93 Жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil wonder if Nicks, Franks or JK do this with their boots as well?
@nextofken87
@nextofken87 2 жыл бұрын
My White's Smoke Jumpers have been my every day wear for a few years now. Super comfy once broken in. I wear them like shoes and they feel just as light after wearing for so long.
@SplitHairz
@SplitHairz 2 жыл бұрын
Don't they get hot in the summer?
@nextofken87
@nextofken87 2 жыл бұрын
@@SplitHairz A lil warm, but doesn't bother too much. Thin socks in summer, nice wool ones in winter.
@rdf4315
@rdf4315 Жыл бұрын
I have two questions if I got a pair will they be too hot to wear in North Florida and are they tough because I've never wore a boot that lasted more than 2 years ?
@nextofken87
@nextofken87 Жыл бұрын
@@rdf4315 They've lasted me for a good while. Few years and haven't had any trouble with wear. I don't know about Florida, as I haven't been anywhere with comparable humidity.
@rogerstuart2592
@rogerstuart2592 Жыл бұрын
When I worked for the USFS in East Oregon high desert, I wore my SJ's in 115 degree summers, even on fires in that heat. I would also jog in them after a full day working in the forest. Best pair of footeare I've ever owned in 65 years.
@michaeldeburgh2173
@michaeldeburgh2173 Жыл бұрын
I owned a pair while in the Marine Corps. I remember wearing them on a 20 mile hike with packs and gear, and though my feet were sore I had no blisters at all while many other Marines had blisters and a few lost their entire heel pad (one huge blister). My take away was that no matter the boot it must fit properly, and secondly that the White's with it's excellent support and fit was an outstanding boot.
@patrickhan1710
@patrickhan1710 Жыл бұрын
which one? legacy / fire / smokejumper?
@michaeldeburgh2173
@michaeldeburgh2173 Жыл бұрын
@@patrickhan1710 I had the Smokejumper.
@lemmor6791civ
@lemmor6791civ 2 жыл бұрын
Well, now we need a head-to-head between Nick's and White's and maybe one of the other brands, I like Wesco's 'cause they are the only one that provide inside leather lining from the start... There can be only one!
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll definitely do it one day! They all build boots basically the same way on the same lasts with minor differences like the extra stitched welt on this whites boots that I don’t think any of the other brands do
@agoogleuser7190
@agoogleuser7190 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil Viberg does the same thing.
@johnvelas70
@johnvelas70 2 жыл бұрын
I have 2prs wesco, their quality went down the toilet. I'm getting fitted for either Nick's or JK. (I wear corks). I might have to look into these.
@MattieXMoto
@MattieXMoto 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnvelas70 no way. What issues? I have had mr lou for 4 yrs and they are still in great shape. I am sure if you email Chris Warren he would take care of you
@johnvelas70
@johnvelas70 2 жыл бұрын
@@MattieXMoto ha time for bed, but to answer you I sent 1 pr in for a resole they sent them back in vibram not corks & the other pair the gusset came back unsewn to the vamp. Mine are 12 years old, resoled 2x and rebuilt once.
@Heywoodthepeckerwood
@Heywoodthepeckerwood Жыл бұрын
I have owned a few pair of their smoke jumpers and I still occasionally wear my old packers. They literally look better now than when I bought them 15 years ago. Very nice boots.
@navajoguy8102
@navajoguy8102 Жыл бұрын
Was gifted a pre-owned pair of these when I got my licensure with EMS, wore them on ambulance calls through the pandemic. Still have them, probably the best boots I've ever had.
@envisionbybvinson7516
@envisionbybvinson7516 Жыл бұрын
I could see where a virus would put a pair of boots to the test.
@sanxbile1860
@sanxbile1860 2 жыл бұрын
Regarding a Pacific Northwest boot company I’d love to see you tackle JK’s new 300 line. It’s their new budget line that’s about 30% cheaper than the mainline. Would be great to see you take a deep dive into where they cut costs in the construction.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@TheCelticHitman
@TheCelticHitman 2 жыл бұрын
Isn’t JK out of Arizona? Not PNW?
@gooserex6569
@gooserex6569 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCelticHitman They have a few stores, one in Arizona, but are made in Spokane Washington.
@deejpax
@deejpax 2 жыл бұрын
They actually put a video on their own channel of exactly this. Cutting the 300 boot in half and explaining how it was made. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpWpnqSkipmJn7c
@Azorian36
@Azorian36 2 жыл бұрын
@@gooserex6569 JK Boots gave me hands down the absolute worst customer service experience I have ever had with any company.
@HypocrisyInbound
@HypocrisyInbound Жыл бұрын
As someone born and raised in Spokane, these boots are criminally underrated. I have weird shaped feet and no boot I’ve ever found has been comfortable for me to work in. I was suggested a pair of whites by an old construction general. I’m glad he did that. These are the only boots I’ll ever wear and I wish more people knew about this gem of our city.
@stephanbertram723
@stephanbertram723 Жыл бұрын
Try Frank's boots most of whites work force left the company when they sold out and formed Frank's and they are still in spokane
@SMarcey
@SMarcey Жыл бұрын
I was only passingly familiar with the Whites brand but was surprised to learn that one of the family members lived in the Shenendoah Valley, where I live. I now am very set on one day owning a pair of these boots. It would be really cool to walk around the home of the founder in a pair of boots his family had a hand in crafting.
@privateinvestigator8607
@privateinvestigator8607 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are not only educational, but they bring to light the truth about what we are getting our feet in to. I will always look for your reviews before making shoe purchases. Thank you.
@Mxziko
@Mxziko 2 жыл бұрын
I just want to congratulate you for your videos that are very interesting and you teach us more every day about the history of shoes, boots, and sneakers shoes, my respects and my best wishes from Reynosa Tamauli-paz Mex 🇲🇽
@wholuvsyababy2675
@wholuvsyababy2675 Жыл бұрын
I was in line construction for 43 years. I've worn White's and Norco's. Whites are incredible, but I always found Norco's more comfortable and durable for climbing. Thanks for your work. I really appreciate your takes. Cheers.
@highdesertforester
@highdesertforester Жыл бұрын
I graduated from high school in 1966 and got a summer job with the US Forest Service on the East slope of the Cascade Mountains in Washington State. My boots were some version of Red Wings which served me well but I soon learned that everyone who took the job seriously eventually got measured for White's in Spokane. I went with Danner's but White's were the Holy Grail.
@LaymensLameMan
@LaymensLameMan 2 жыл бұрын
What’s even more interesting to me is that they still use a holdfast method as opposed to the gemming. I bought a pair of the MP Sherman’s and was really excited about this when I found out they were constructed like this
@user-sh2mk8ew4c
@user-sh2mk8ew4c Жыл бұрын
I am researching Whites as I want a pair of MP. Today they are $700.00 So you like them? What sole did you get? Half lug or the flat one?
@LaymensLameMan
@LaymensLameMan Жыл бұрын
@@user-sh2mk8ew4c I got the MP Sherman plain toe half lug in natural chromexcel. To be honest I haven’t gotten an opportunity to break em in but I love the way they look out of the box though lol for the longest I coveted the Beckmans by redwing but they were discontinued before I could build up the capital to buy some. Long story short I found these, in which I found a new obsession, and when I finally had the money I bought em. Thank God I waited as I like the style and construction on these a lot better. I would say they do run a little slim so I would suggest getting them a little wide or doing some exact measurements with whites. As for comfort, again, haven’t had much opportunity to wear them, but they are a typical heritage boot, and they wear like one, so I can’t imagine there being any pleasant break in with these lol although chromexcel is more pliable than veg tan, so I don’t the the upper will be as harsh to break in as opposed to the sole itself. All in all I don’t care what the break in feels like. I’m happy with my eye candy lol
@boomstickpd79
@boomstickpd79 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Weston! Can’t believe you went through the whole video without mentioning Nick’s once.
@frankvillatoro2331
@frankvillatoro2331 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I found that odd too considering his last two collaborations were with Nick’s. Although his opinion is these are the best handmade boots in the USA, I still don’t think they would compare to a custom Made to Measure Nick’s boot with comparable construction, to a more generic fitting boot. Just my opinion. And yes, I own all the three big PNW brands and I’m not a fanboy of any.
@DarkMuj
@DarkMuj 2 жыл бұрын
this was the first of your videos i couldn't watch all the way through Weston... I tapped out after 11 minutes. You had just explained the beauty and history of White's so well, I couldn't bear to see you cut the boots up! These are definitely on my "Grail boots" list now.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
You better get a pair quick then, only 200 are being made, and they are almost out of spots. Here's the link before it's too late shop.whitesboots.com/collaborations/rose-anvil-x-whites-drifter-boot/
@ShayanFarooqiEsq
@ShayanFarooqiEsq 2 жыл бұрын
I've watched your videos since I've been working from home and it is because of your reputation and honesty, I just ordered a pair of these boots, sight unseen, and without trying them on, and at this price. You look to be honest and reputable and if you say these are best boots made here, then I just plunked down my money for 'em. Feel free to call or reach out. Thanks for what you do to make sure we don't waste $$ on crappy boots. This will be the most expensive clothing item I've ever bought in my life haha
@sonderevokingbuns
@sonderevokingbuns 2 жыл бұрын
I have nicks, pretty much the same thing... and they are nowhere near as comfortable as $100 timberlands bought on sale with all the foam in the sole. I've almost had them for a year now and wear them for everything besides why I initially bought them, for work. If you're working on concrete, these boots aren't it. It almost feels like you're wearing wooden shoes, they're that stiff and I've had them for almost a year.. They'll last you a long time though.
@MrEazyE357
@MrEazyE357 2 жыл бұрын
Why? I'm not paying that much for boots unless I have them sized to my foot. To each his own though.
@TomHudson00
@TomHudson00 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like a spreadsheet with all of the details from your reviews! I came across you less than a week ago and I've watched a lot of your videos. Well done!
@d-vo5042
@d-vo5042 Жыл бұрын
Whites are by far one of the most difficult boots to break in, but, now I see why it is so awesome to have a pair of these and break them in. I would love to see a boot breakdown of the Drews Boots Wildland Firefighter. I've heard, the Drews Boots are on par with the Nicks and the Whites, maybe even a little better? It would be cool to see a cross section of the Drews Boots.
@GreyBeatle
@GreyBeatle Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed with the construction. I made boots at the old Kaufman Footwear plant in Kitchener Ontario Canada, that made the old Canadian made Sorels that were good. But this boot is impressive. We did have our high end hunting boots that would be comparable in ways, but the stitching all done by hand and the materials are obviously high end and amazingly put together. I've been out of the boot trade since the 90's but still remember it well, and I'd buy a pair of these for sure. Great video outlining some very hard work and construction. I didn't know they were made in Spokane and it doesn't surprise me, as I seem to get along with lots of people in Spokane. They're a very industrial community, from my experience of driving truck now thru there. My favorite guys to help me with breakdowns on my truck are in Spokane, WA as well. From my experience they're a good hard working city, so hats off to them from me! Industries in North America have mostly closed up and moved oversea's but it's good to see some of the iconic products still hanging in there. I still try and buy Canadian and American if at all possible, so this product is strongly noted in my mind from now on.
@lorenwillis425
@lorenwillis425 Жыл бұрын
My dad was a heavy duty Diesel mechanic and wore White's boots. His feet were 13AAA, but White had a last for them. He had two pair and would switch off from one week to the next. I seem to remember him having them rebuilt a couple times for each pair, until there was no longer enough material to sew on new soles.
@davidjackson4112
@davidjackson4112 Жыл бұрын
I have own numerous pair of White boots and one pair is over 30 plus years old in my collection of White work boots. Stop at the factory 3 weeks ago and was told White is 8 months I’d I wanted a custom pair of boots made . White is back log. Like I have said been wearing White’s for over thirty years and I love them. No issues at all. Thanks!
@swalker6x6
@swalker6x6 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed this design. The 10" is perfect...I bought a pair.
@johnferguson2721
@johnferguson2721 Жыл бұрын
Love your content. Just found you last year. I'm 73 so no need now for long lasting boots but I wish I had your knowledge at my fingertips 60yrs ago. would have made my working life so much better. Good luck to you.
@anthonyh9481
@anthonyh9481 2 жыл бұрын
Alright you got me with this one. I passed on the last two collabs but I had to grab a pair of these. These look great and I love the knife pocket.
@davidpalmer9014
@davidpalmer9014 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing how they make their boots is inspirational. I love my Perry boots. And now I want to order another pair of White's.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed that whole lineage of pnw boot brands are a hidden gem of American craftsmanship
@CrackedCandy
@CrackedCandy 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil from when Made in America meant something. It's like a look back in time to American quality. What was.
@Dvdplhm
@Dvdplhm 10 ай бұрын
I was a wildland firefighter in Oregon when I was 18 in 2000. Every firefighter or logger who invested a decent amount of money on their boots had Whites. I had to settle for Wescos because it was a 3-hour drive to the valley to get the Whites custom made to my foot. But I do remember they cost about $350 then. Not a week's pay but damn expensive. I can't believe what they cost now!
@jakehanks1139
@jakehanks1139 2 жыл бұрын
I have been wearing my 2 pair of smoke jumpers for well over 10 years. They go back to get new soles or rebuilt annually, they are the only thing that I put on my feet (Except house slippers). I am a bit interested in this new dress boot. Keep up the great work at White's Thank you God bless America Jake Hanks
@adrian.antonazi
@adrian.antonazi Жыл бұрын
The cutting of those marvelous boots made me shed a tear
@waxedearth5425
@waxedearth5425 2 жыл бұрын
Price and lead time seem very reasonable for that type of constructed boot. The leather working inside is exceptional. Also, the White’s Millwood is hands down the best wedge sole work boot I own and I only payed $250 for it during one of their sales. Every single aspect of the boot is elevated over other brands in that price point and higher. Their customer service department is outstanding too.
@mad0uche
@mad0uche 2 жыл бұрын
That is a good point on the Millwood, or as I like to call them the less ugly Perry which is their moc toe version.
@barbandpaul
@barbandpaul 2 жыл бұрын
I've worn White's Smokejumpers for 15 years ( 1'st pair rebuilt 4x's), nothing is more comfortable on my foot!
@thecodemachine
@thecodemachine 2 жыл бұрын
I just gotta say, I have size 16 shoes, and it is amazing to see companies actually make my size! Even if it is just a one off.
@F0XD1E
@F0XD1E 2 жыл бұрын
Do they charge more since it takes so much more leather?
@thecodemachine
@thecodemachine 2 жыл бұрын
@@F0XD1E no
@pineapplesideways3820
@pineapplesideways3820 2 жыл бұрын
Size 16 are tiny feet if your shaq
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Shaq up in here ordering some drifter? 😉
@thecodemachine
@thecodemachine 2 жыл бұрын
​@@RoseAnvil I did buy a pair. This is the first time I have been able to buy a boot of any kind of high quality. Custom shoe size makers have waiting lists in the years.
@titusnelson9499
@titusnelson9499 2 жыл бұрын
I ran 50 yards through hot coals to escape a blow up fire in 1968. These White Boots saved my ass. Had to pour water inside to cool them and my feet down. I still have those boots. I want them on my feet when I’m buried.
@jakespede8522
@jakespede8522 2 жыл бұрын
I have owned 16 pairs of White's Boots. My favorites are the 12" Elk Smoke Jumpers and my newest are the Red Dog with honey Vibram soles in a 10" lace up. Yeah, some are barley broken in, and some are never gonna be, but I will never stop wearing them. They are a joy to own!
@mikemcnevin1785
@mikemcnevin1785 2 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a pair of 20+ year old Smoke Jumper boots I special ordered in brown when, at the time, you could only get them in black, and I am still trying to wear them out. I also have a pair of their new Chore boot. They are lighter weight, but still a terrific choice for day to day work on multiple surfaces. Am I a fan? Absolutely!! Best boot made in the US of A!!
@JH-ks9oi
@JH-ks9oi 2 жыл бұрын
Damn I wasn't prepared to see such a damn fine boot autopsy... It's a piece of art, almost like watchin a prewar Martin D cut in half or a 1954 Fender Tele "no caster, Squier or Broadcaster" cut in half...
@ivanrodriguez8966
@ivanrodriguez8966 2 жыл бұрын
I've had my smokejumpers for 18 years. Fought a lot of fires wearing them and they are great for upland game hunting as well. Money well spent.
@rdf4315
@rdf4315 Жыл бұрын
Where do you go to order them can you get them off Amazon or ebay or do you have to go to their website ?
@ivanrodriguez8966
@ivanrodriguez8966 Жыл бұрын
@@rdf4315 I had mine fitted for me in the early 2000s. Had them rebuilt twice. I would probably recommend going in to a store and get fitted. Break in is kinda painful. We called our scars on the top of our feet "white bite". After you break them in, there's no better boot. Just don't break them in during fire season.
@rdf4315
@rdf4315 Жыл бұрын
@@ivanrodriguez8966 do you have to go to a store to get fitted first or can you just order them ?
@johnnynobuddy1
@johnnynobuddy1 2 жыл бұрын
2005 I was by chance at a lumber yard across the street from Whites factory/showroom in Spokane. It was a very nice set up and they have quite a variety of choices with windows looking into the factory. If you get a chance....check it out!
@mikegoff7506
@mikegoff7506 2 жыл бұрын
Bought my first pair of White's 8" smokejumpers in 1982, they've been rebuilt 5 times and I still have them. Favorite boots. My 2nd pair were 10" smokejumpers, 1990. Wish I would've gone with the 8" again. But theyve been rebuilt 3 times, still wearingvthose to. My last pair I bought in 2016, 6" hikers, time to be rebuilt
@jeremycox2983
@jeremycox2983 Жыл бұрын
I got my custom made whites for $642. They are best boots that I have ever owned. I highly recommend them.
@STIHLFIRE437
@STIHLFIRE437 Жыл бұрын
I got my smokejumpers in 2010, so far only had one rebuild on the soles. Best boots I’ve ever bought. They are worth the price tag
@boozedancingtv
@boozedancingtv 2 жыл бұрын
$650 sounds like a lot for a pair of boots, but after your excellent and highly detailed analysis, they look totally worth it. The most expensive shoes I ever bought were Allen Edmonds. They’ve cut corners over the years while upping the price. We’re talking $300+ for a dress show if you pay retail. With these boots, you’re talking much more leather and hand crafting. Like I said: the White’s appear to be worth every penny! Love the channel by the way! Cheers!
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, their prices appear pretty steep. I'm wondering how many hard-hat workers are actually purchasing/wearing these
@boozedancingtv
@boozedancingtv 2 жыл бұрын
@@jicalzad None is my guess.
@photogenwombat
@photogenwombat 2 жыл бұрын
'Bout DAMN TIME you looked at Whites! Ever since you did your 1st Nick's review, I've wanted to donate my White's Smoke Jumpers (vintage 2002, my1st pair EVER; wore them for almost 15 yrs with 4 rebuilds). Still happy to donate them to the cause of cutting shoes in half. Nick's gave me a terrible fitting experience. Did the at home measure, mail-order correspondence and got a size too big and too wide. White's will always be my choice (even though I have to travel 10hrs to get to my favorite boot fitter)
@moosepasshippie
@moosepasshippie 2 жыл бұрын
I had a pare of Whites smoke jumpers for 5 years. They are some tough boots. Took me 4 months to break them in. ResoIed them 3 times. I hated the Arch-ease heels. Sold the boots for $100. Now I wear comfortable light weight hiking boots with no heels.
@bayview5943
@bayview5943 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible. Thank you, and all the people at Whites for their dedication.
@ericdoe2318
@ericdoe2318 2 жыл бұрын
i used to think 300$ was expensive for a boot. Now after watching these videos i know $300 is expensive for the value of what you get. That's why i'm now in the market for a dam near $700.00 boot with tax added, because they are a better value than the $300 boots.
@rikmayerkirkland
@rikmayerkirkland 2 жыл бұрын
Red wing 875's are a great deal for a $300 boot, if you like moc toes
@jstpsgthru
@jstpsgthru 2 жыл бұрын
I ordered a pair from White's (not this model.) I was concerned when they told me that I needed to order one size smaller. I need a wide toe box, but decided to try them, after listening to their "sizing" explanation. The toe box was fine, but the boots were so tight around the mid-foot that I knew there was no stretching that would ever fix the problem. I was very impressed with the quality of the boot, but I had to return them.
@krazmokramer
@krazmokramer 2 жыл бұрын
My first and only pair of White's are the Perrys in Red Dog leather. Great boots! If these cheapest of White's are any indication of quality, these boots in this video are sure to be excellent. The Red Dog leather has held up well for nearly 2 years. The boots are very comfortable. I am quite happy with my White's boots. I did note that you didn't mention Nicks even once, nor show a photo of Nicks when you were comparing the White's to other high end boots. Falling out with Nicks??? Thanks for this review video.
@77Matt
@77Matt 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I noticed. And just recently there was the Nicks-RA collaboration. I think it is time for a non-sponsored head-to-head comparison between Nicks and Whit's, but I am starting to wonder if this should be done by Rose Anvil, since Weston is now completely part of the industry establishment; the voice of the boot makers' marketing departments, if you will. :)
@TristanBanwell
@TristanBanwell 2 жыл бұрын
Did you read my mind, my man?! I am a rancher with a rugged mountain cattle range in British Columbia, primarily accessible by horseback. I looked at stock White's Packers last time I was in Montana, and had Spokane on a Spring '22 trip itinerary. I was all set to get custom fitted and figure out how to get a packer heel on something with a wider toebox and a Vibram mini-lug sole for jumping on and off the horse in steep subalpine country... That trip got cancelled, and now I am glad it did, because you absolutely nailed it here in terms of the perfect build for me. I am ordering this afternoon after I get measured up; hope it isn't too late. Thank you!
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Still a few left. you can watch my sizing guide here too: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHPZnKFuhdBqo8k
@TristanBanwell
@TristanBanwell 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil Got a pair ordered, thanks so much. I will send you a photo next summer when I get them in the mountains.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, can't wait to see that!
@zackstewart4109
@zackstewart4109 2 жыл бұрын
It was harder to see these "living" boots cut than the historic pairs. Also, I will definitely be using the phrase "a diminishing return is still a return".
@mackchristianson5400
@mackchristianson5400 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. At some point I would love to see more hunting boot reviews. Especially the Kenetrek Mountain Extreme boots. Thanks for you time.
@SilverJ56
@SilverJ56 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!! The shape is great! I'm curious about the Hathorn boot makers in Spokane. Were they "discount" Whites? Very little history on them.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
I believe hawthorns were whites budget line
@CrackedCandy
@CrackedCandy 2 жыл бұрын
@@RoseAnvil this is correct. Hawthorn is a budget White.
@xxchugchugxx420
@xxchugchugxx420 2 жыл бұрын
Super nice ! As an youngster in Tillamook, Oregon in the 80's . Whites were the boots Loggers had or talked about .
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
Check out the 30 min dive on how and why I designed this boot to be the most versatile boot in whole wide 🌎 on the Rose Anvil 2 channel here! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3izYpKai6l0kNk
@battlegnome7.625
@battlegnome7.625 2 жыл бұрын
Wish I could’ve gotten a pair… just don’t have the most net at the moment man… have my ND1s though and still love them!
@johnversluis3084
@johnversluis3084 2 жыл бұрын
wow nice boots $650 to work !! No thanks it hurts watching cut threw a great pair great boots !!!!!
@dainsmart6237
@dainsmart6237 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Weston. is this a pair of boots that could last a lifetime if looked after like getting resoled at whites store because that beautiful red dog leather looks really tough and to hard to wear down naturally? I felt a little sick to see you cutting into the Boots after seeing those guys working on them,I bet their hands are as tough as their leather 😥 but the are worth the effort and keeping the way of making boots alive 🙂👍🏻✌🏻🇬🇧❤️☕
@vctrgallardo
@vctrgallardo 2 жыл бұрын
Please cut a pair of Truman Boots in half! 🙏🏼
@ustinates335
@ustinates335 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnversluis3084 If you can still find a cobbler, they can be repaired a grip of times. Theyll last longer than any other boot that way by 10 fold.
@xx_cloud_xx5055
@xx_cloud_xx5055 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for cutting your pair to show us what's going on inside the boot. Wish I could afford these cuz they're worth every cent for the amount of effort put into them.
@WiliiamNoTell
@WiliiamNoTell Жыл бұрын
As a former hockey player, I can appreciate the quality of great footwear. Several years back, I needed new skates. Tried on a pair of Bauer Vapors. I was shocked at the 950.00 price tag. What was more shocking was.... Made in China. Keep up the great work guys also please keep in the USA !!! I wear red wings. However, after watching your video, I will definitely look into your boots. No, I didn't buy the communist skate.
@adriancorrea4040
@adriancorrea4040 Жыл бұрын
Bro ive had a pair of Whites for almost two years and i bought them before i ever saw this video, i feel like ive been wearing a piece of art on my feet this whole time and now i feel like i have to take care of them better. great video.
@Jeranhound
@Jeranhound 2 жыл бұрын
You should check out JK boots, also made in Spokane. I'd be real interested to see how their new 300 series holds up, though I wear my $95 Rock Roosters and $380 work boots are a bit out of my price range. Could compare them to something like White's Chore Boot, at about the same price.
@jlg395
@jlg395 2 жыл бұрын
So they claim to be an American company but are owned by an overseas conglomerate. Say no more.
@littlejackalo5326
@littlejackalo5326 2 жыл бұрын
Right. LOL. If I knew they were Asian owned, I wouldn't have bought them. I wonder if Nick's are US owned.
@wecanjump7512
@wecanjump7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@littlejackalo5326 Nicks still is. Their owner/CEO is in one of their posts for a tribute boot for his grandad.
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
I get where you’re coming from. In my eyes it shouldn’t take away from the guys that actually run whites and all the guys that make the boots by hand in the US. Yes Nicks as far as I know is still privately owned by some really awesome dudes!
@RoseAnvil
@RoseAnvil 2 жыл бұрын
I get where you’re coming from. In my eyes it shouldn’t take away from the guys that actually run whites and all the guys that make the boots by hand in the US. Yes Nicks as far as I know is still privately owned by some really awesome dudes!
@jessmoorlag6088
@jessmoorlag6088 Жыл бұрын
Thank you I would have been a little more than bothered if I'd bought a pair and found out later ....and I almost did
@psychodynamicnaturalhistor437
@psychodynamicnaturalhistor437 Жыл бұрын
They're in my hometown. People from here take them in to have repairs/resoles done as needed. Best warranty in the business.
@justindunlap1235
@justindunlap1235 2 жыл бұрын
Francis Lufkin actually was based out of my hometown (the birthplace of smoke jumping Winthrop WA.). We have a Lufkin lake and a Lufkin lane.
@moparman440cid
@moparman440cid 2 жыл бұрын
I currently own two pairs of White’s, the Perry Moc Toe and the Hillyard. I gotta say the Perry’s are the most comfortable boots I’ve ever owned and the hill yards are great working boots. For $300 for either pair they are an excellent deal in my opinion but I’d love to see the Hillyards cut in half to see what’s inside!
@9HighFlyer9
@9HighFlyer9 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't know White's had a boot named "Hillyard." I grew up in the Hillyard section of Spokane. Near where Nick's old location is at.
@samkleinbaum8406
@samkleinbaum8406 Жыл бұрын
I've been wearing White's for over 10 years doing road construction. These are my daily driver and have done the smoke jumper and am now in the packer. I love these boots. The only reason I have them rebuilt is that the sole wears out on me. They last longer than any other pair that I have seen and at the point, you send them for a rebuild they cost the same.
@nontoxicmasculinity-goodby3094
@nontoxicmasculinity-goodby3094 Жыл бұрын
I almost couldn't watch you cut them in half! I'm a logger's son from Oregon and have owned (and almost worn out) White's caulked boots from decades ago. A question before i buy some of your collaborative boots: Do the sizes run the same as with Nick's boots?
@alexbrumlik448
@alexbrumlik448 Жыл бұрын
@RoseAnvil - I love my smokejumpers and also my Nick's patrol boots.. BUT! Here's a tip from a professional woodworker for you when using that band saw:: That blade is pulling your cut down to the table, so what ever part of the boot is being cut, it's best you keep that part resting flat. There's a danger that overhanging/unsupported parts will catch traction and suddenly be pulled to the table. When that happens, things can shift, the blade can bind, and I'd hate anything to get hurt in the process. Long-time watcher, thanks for your dedication to showing how epic old-school craft is :]
@jessejames1395
@jessejames1395 2 жыл бұрын
I shed a tear when you cut that boot in half, I wish I could afford a pair of these boots!
@andy49393
@andy49393 4 ай бұрын
I purchased the farmer/rancher model in red dog with nylon laces. It’s the same boot. Same last, leather, heel, height. It’s sweet.
@BigDirtDawg
@BigDirtDawg 2 жыл бұрын
I love whites boots even more now. Best quality boot on the market hands down
@vieuxacadian9455
@vieuxacadian9455 Жыл бұрын
Old world level craftsmanship above all !!!!!!!!!!!!!
@possumfoot6983
@possumfoot6983 Жыл бұрын
After realizing THESE are the boots I've been looking for, it was rough watching you cut em up.
@angelo-001
@angelo-001 2 жыл бұрын
Some are still a available, and it comes with a sewing kit for the stash pocket… very cool!
@joelhawk7399
@joelhawk7399 2 жыл бұрын
One review I saw was that Nick's edges them out when it comes to firefighting (sole heat resistance). That aside, they are some of the best boots ever.
@googeluser7098
@googeluser7098 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, great job explaining that welt. Now I see that Whites are expensive because they are a step up from most boot companies, I’ve seen a video of Viberg being made and they use more machines than Red Wing for an $800 boot. Crazy.
@mattboyce8694
@mattboyce8694 Жыл бұрын
I used to work in commercial masonry and purchased the smokejumpers. Lime and leather are not very compatible but these boots, by far, lasted longer and held up better than any other boot I used. Add in the fact that you can send your boots back, and only reusing the upper to completely rebuild these boots. Average cost per year for boots is lower than buying these “Expensive” boots. The only “Con” is these boots are a monster to break in. Takes several weeks and the first week is painful. Once broken in, they will feel like a glove on your foot. If you work or wear boots every day, these are worth the investment.
@nervelessned
@nervelessned 2 жыл бұрын
Can you please cut in half a Rossi Mulga bushwalking boot? They are traditionally made in Australia and I loved my pair that I had when I lived there 30 years ago. I just bought a new pair and still think they are a beautiful solid comfortable walking boot. Now I'll watch the White's boots video, cheers!
@TWard-je6mr
@TWard-je6mr 2 жыл бұрын
Got some Whites last year and I love them.
@arasethw
@arasethw 2 жыл бұрын
I have had 2 pair of Whites smoke jumpers throughout my life , did everything in them ! I Love these Boots Lost first pair from theft ! Had to buy another pair , rebuildable for your lifetime !
@kevinkeller2876
@kevinkeller2876 Жыл бұрын
I have never had a break in time my Whites, comfortable as soon as I put them on. I have had three pairs in 30 years of construction trade and the only footwear I own.
@DavidHBurkart
@DavidHBurkart Жыл бұрын
There are definitely more comfortable boots, at least, boots that are easier to break in. There are boots with greater cushioning and/or breathability, but few if any are more durable, longer lasting as well as rebuildable. $400 back in '04, my SJs fought a lot of fires for nearly two decades before I retired. I still have 'em, resoled twice. Keep 'em clean, oil regularly with Huberds. That is my recipe.
@trilldan8327
@trilldan8327 2 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing these in a different color / options. I ordered a pair of the Wickett & Craig x Nick's double stuffed boots and looking to pick up a pair of Whites. I'd order these now but I'm just not a fan of the color. Great video representing the work and craftsmanship that goes into these boots.
@gqfiend
@gqfiend Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of anti-squeak canvas layers. I have two pairs of nicks that both squeak o the right foot. It’s maddening!!!!!
@jmac321
@jmac321 Жыл бұрын
Nicks sucks. They botched my pair and wanted to rebuild at my cost. Instead I bought Whites and they are perfect.
@gqfiend
@gqfiend Жыл бұрын
@@jmac321 ok
@fatrabbit32
@fatrabbit32 Жыл бұрын
I would really like to see you review high end Mountain Boots! Kenetrek, Zamberlan, Crispi, Lowa, Hanwag, etc…. I searched your list and didn’t see any videos on these. Most are made in Italy and should have a very durable construction.
@Maxtowers71
@Maxtowers71 Жыл бұрын
Kinda breaks my heart everytime you cut a boot in half but I do get why you do that, thanks for taking one for the team
@dkt2828
@dkt2828 2 жыл бұрын
They are the best boots I have ever had I logged in the late 80's early 90's n swore by them used them for hiking n everything
@govtfunded
@govtfunded 2 жыл бұрын
They're not for everyone, but who they are for sure understand them, appreciate them, buy them, and wear them.
@alejandromartinezjr9280
@alejandromartinezjr9280 8 ай бұрын
You can say that again 🤟🏽
@mcbridecreek
@mcbridecreek Жыл бұрын
Bought my first pair of White’s packers in black leather/vibram soles. 1981, $235. My second pair, made in 1987, 11:20 cost $205! I still own them. I also got a pair of cowboy packers in 1996. They are practically new. I didn’t want to break them in. So nearly 27 years later, I’m breaking them in!
@robertodebeers2551
@robertodebeers2551 Жыл бұрын
I worked in the Montana woods for many years and Westco Jobmasters were always my first choice.
@jeffreyhill1864
@jeffreyhill1864 2 жыл бұрын
Small piece of triva. White's was owned by a man named Gary March before being sold. Mr. March started his coppler career in Pasco Washington working for my grandfather at Kapelle Shoe Repair.
@gqfiend
@gqfiend Жыл бұрын
Today was day 1 on site for my RA Drifters. Nice day.
@Nordic_Sky
@Nordic_Sky 2 жыл бұрын
I have boots from White's, Nick's and Wesco. They have slight differences but are very, very similar. An important caveat is that they have to fit really well. Ultimately I don't think you can go wrong with any of them. All are great.
@mikecountryman5417
@mikecountryman5417 2 жыл бұрын
Been wearing whites for 40 yrs....surprised u didn't mention the weight...circumstances dictate if being that heavy is a negative or positive...really great video.
@thaney423
@thaney423 3 ай бұрын
Been wearing Whites smoke jumpers for 20 years. I have had 4 pairs and still have them all. Every pair I have had the squeak.
@pawlbonion4567
@pawlbonion4567 2 жыл бұрын
Best way to break white's or nick's in is stand in a puddle till they're soaked, then walk 'em dry. Takes some doing and sore feet, but quicker than just wearing them in over a longer time period. Been doing this for 38 years. First pair was buffalo's (made by white's) back in the early 80's
@w5monkey
@w5monkey Жыл бұрын
Used to break in expensive hockey skates back in the 80's by wearing wet socks.
@tommuttera3730
@tommuttera3730 Жыл бұрын
I was a forestry tech/wildland firefighter/emt for a dozen years/seasons, invested in a few pairs of White's, the Buffalo's were my faves because I used custom built cork orthotics, oh, they were lace to the toe, also.
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