Did Mittens get TRICKED?!

In this video, I try to get revenge against Mittens, an evil kitty chess bot. The game features a fascinating battle from a Ponizani Opening. Try it yourself: www.chess.com/...
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[@Michael.032]

1:02 "Let's see if she knows the theory". *She IS the theory*

[@theobirkholz]

Theory - Mittens is coded to play in a way that a human opponent will still find chances, but still maintain its advantage at all times.

[@matthewviramontes3131]

This might be true, because in the game that Hikaru drew it, it had a totally winning move and instead played something innocuous and drawing.

[@fabians7751]

That would make sense. I'm only holding myself against bots up to 1200 and Mittens took way too long to crush me considering it drew against a GM

[@defenastrator]

I think mittens objective is to maintain advantage while leaving as meny pieces on the board as it can. I've seen it repeatedly trap pieces & refuse to take.

[@Jzscrstsprstr]

Like a cat playing with a mouse it caught?

[@MacDaniboi]

This is correct, I am a very low level player and in the analysis after I noticed that whenever I made a mistake Mittens also made a mistake and never got a bigger than -2 lead until I blundered forced mate.

[@robw9986]

7:06 "You're not a tiger, you're just a fish." I don't know if I ever saw Eric trash talking before. Mittens do bring it out of people.

[@alquest]

To his defence, he was reading the cats chat aloud. So he was being trashed talked to, instead of talking trash himself.

[@piercearora7681]

Accurate, and made me laugh so hard my gf looked at me funny.

[@coolcrazydude007]

A very strong fish...

[@runeercool1]

He have told Dina Belenkaya to jump in a river.

[@robw9986]

​@@runeercool1 So Mittens and Dina. Hmmmmm.

[@ryuk5673]

25:28 I died when you said "lets see how long I can survive" and then mittens proceeds to end your suffering immediately 😂

[@Juasml]

He didn't even try to survive. He sacrificed the rooks to prevent mate on a1 and then left the king on a1 by pushing a pawn instead of moving closer to the center. It was mate in 2.

[@dansrod5952]

He ended his own suffering when he neglected moving his king

[@matthewsocoollike]

Eric: “I’m not gonna let the trash talk get to me I’m just going to ignore it” Also Eric: reads every message from mittens and responds hastily

[@Luca.Rubinato]

"I feel like it's just confusing me with poetry" cracked me up. Man, you're the best!

[@erlendfriestad9343]

Pawetry it is

[@anturanggatantra2154]

Eric/Levy : 'That's such an engine moves' Mitten : "huh, that's such a human moves"

[@JimmyBoosterCrate]

Hikaru managed to draw it after being lost the whole game. It can mess up endgames. There is hope!

[@kadardew9694]

Keep in mind Hikaru is a literal GOD. but ye I think there’s hope

[@zachrabaznaz7687]

@@niranjanrajesh1058 Hikaru beat Magnus in all of 2022. Magnus never beat him once

[@firstviewer9167]

@@zachrabaznaz7687 magnus is world rapid world blitz and world champion in classical

[@zachrabaznaz7687]

@@firstviewer9167 yes, but Hikaru and Magnus are on THE SAME LEVEL. The same tier. They are not far apart.

[@firstviewer9167]

@@zachrabaznaz7687 how many world championship hikaru won??

[@ammon6288]

Maybe the 1 is not Mittens’ ELO, but Mittens’ prediction of the outcome of the game

[@blueberryoatmeal4009]

It could also be: 1. Mittens' rank in the hierarchy of all things ever created 2. The percentage of Mittens' power that she uses in the game 3. Mittens' age (in months)

[@parzingtheasian]

it's not actually one, but won

[@aetherius6221]

It's actually (-1) which underflows to 3200

[@parzingtheasian]

@@aetherius6221 wouldn't that be 65535

[@aetherius6221]

@@parzingtheasian fair point haha

[@johng3348]

mittens makes it close.. so anybody playing against her feel like they had her.. but loses in the end, that's what is more frustrating. Whereas just getting crushed wouldn't make most people wanna keep playing, that's the trick.

[@20the20]

what are you talking about lol she definitely does not make it close

[@johng3348]

@@20the20 I am not very good at chess yet i felt like i was better at some points in our games and kept playing her until i saw titled players playing her and getting beat

[@mysticalmagic9259]

@@20the20 That's exactly what she does. There are times where she does not press the advantage and intentionally plays a suboptimal move.

[@areedkhalid6549]

Yeah exactly

[@juanlloveras5780]

It would make sense. Mittens is literally playing Cat and Mouse, toying with you as if you're a mouse already caught in its paws.

[@Stolkmen]

Yes please, more mittens content. I love watching these matches :D

[@TimoNaaro]

Me too

[@OCPARKWAY]

Excellent games..Agreed

[@colegieseking5136]

I didn’t come here looking to fall in love with the Mittens content, but sometimes love finds you.

[@beilkster]

Eric says "that's an engine move" while playing an engine

[@gw6667]

Ironically the better move was to take a2

[@benoplustee]

My favorite kind of content: revenge on absolutely adorable kittens

[@raylopez99]

So you tortured animals when young? Noted...

[@benoplustee]

@@raylopez99 I thought that was a common theme among Rosen fans !!!!!!!

[@inciaradible7144]

Some fascinating games are coming out of this; I really like how dynamic Mittens plays. That checkmate was brutal.

[@benbencom]

While other people were watching Blade Runner, Eric was studying the Ponziani

[@pyrokinetikrlz]

It is great to see Eric trying to stay afloat versus a stronger opponent :D I find this content very educational for us low ELO legends

[@maxpro751]

It’s just calculations nothing special, low elo players just mindlessly make moves and that’s why they are low elo.

[@OfficialSuperMKG]

​@@maxpro751"Never before have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with" - Me, a low ELO chess player, 2023

[@daaaaaaanny]

@@maxpro751 Hey! It's not mindless moves, we just strategically forget about the fact our queen is hanging

[@pauls5745]

Mittens purposely lets you feel like you tricked it, but it already found the win 16 moves down the road

[@davidescialpi6560]

I don't play chess anymore, but once in a while I watch Eric's videos to fall asleep lol

[@Krell54]

I almost beat Mittens with a Stafford gambit, but suddenly didn’t.

[@blooper6801]

I wanna see a "I outwitted mittens with a stafford gambit"

[@carlosgameros7869]

I found you because I was looking for Mittens content and... great job! Nice videos, keep posting Mittens and more of your games, maybe some live banter blitz with users?

[@caseyryan4002]

He streams on twitch where he sometimes plays viewers

[@TheInselaffen]

Mittens 5.5 - 0.5 Hikaru/Levy/Eric

[@shotx333]

Who else played Mittens?

[@qzaq6186]

Imagine Mittens passive use 0 elo, but sometimes using 1 for good move

[@aetherius6221]

Mittens actually has -1 elo, which underflows to 3200

[@Amoeba_Podre]

The 1 stands for her position on the leader boards

[@elihuessien-thompson6519]

I'd love more mittens content please. I learned so much just watching this battle

[@GaryTheGray]

The anguished Dohs, Oh No's, and What to Do ... I felt that.

[@buh3746]

i like it when he gets more serious actually analyzing and playing carefully

[@FernLovebond]

Hell yes, more Mittens. You do SO much better than me against that little fluffball, so despite the losses, I feel a little vindicated.

[@МихаилАшихмин]

We need to summon Schrantz for dealing with this.)

[@irrelevant_noob]

13:53 i have always had the feeling that mittens likes to toy with its prey. :-)

[@samrush]

"it's just confusing me with poetry I have to stay focused on the position"

[@Pharoom]

Mittens is the chess equivalent of a Dark Souls boss

[@savakirilov5263]

No it isn't, a dark souls boss is hard but always possible with the intent to be overcome at one point , mittens is the chess equivalent of a scripted death after a bossfight

[@linuslucke3838]

@@savakirilov5263 Hikaru drew Mittens

[@savakirilov5263]

@@linuslucke3838 yea , I just watched the video , it also lost to gecko 13 , so it's below 3400 , but it won against maximum , so it's 3200+. Point is it's not possible to beat it for 99.9% of players , no matter how much you attempt it

[@radioman7777]

Duck V. Kittens smack down of the century

[@DekritGampamole]

I feel so funny that these adults want to bully a kitten, but it was so satisfying that almost all of them went home feeling like a cat toy

[@alessandropancrazio]

"It's confusing me with poetry"

[@argothiel]

Yes, we want it. Looks like a great story of you vs. your nemesis.

[@TheUncutAngel]

plot twist, mittens is just 200 points higher than whoever it faces.

[@mathiasdube64]

Please team up with chess players and together take the damn cat down

[@blueberryoatmeal4009]

I'm now addicted to Mittens-related videos, send help

[@piercearora7681]

Yeah me too lmao

[@bryanlaabs]

I forgot all about panziani I might have to look into this again

[@bhgtree]

Love the Mittens content, when Eric, Gotham, Hikaru etc. plays. The 1 must mean Mittens is a Queen fan (Another 1 bites the dust) :grinning_face:

[@zzantares]

At 19:40 I don't understand why the fork with Kb5 doesn't work?

[@chesswithconstantine]

There would be no need to trick Mittens if only people played the Constantine way.

[@mypony891]

I'd like to see more thorough analysis. Some of your moves were the best but I still have no clue why things couldn't be taken

[@Stepbrohelp]

Mittens is so disrespectful for putting her king on e4 with literally no piece in any of the 8 squares touching it and STILL be in a position where she can leave it there for a long time and be winning.

[@stephenmcdonald9859]

Love it. I like the humility and attempt!

[@adityapranjal6556]

At 17:38 I only thought Rxd5 would follow up with Nb6+ discovered check, leading to Nxd5..

[@thecakeredux]

That game was so captivating that my dinner got cold in front of me.

[@gigas81]

Well it COULD be a series Rosen, where you get adopted by Mittens?? hehe

[@nommchompsky]

"This is serious chess" against a kitten named Mittens

[@rahem8004]

Why you didn't take the bishop in D5, at least you have a better chance

[@ravendon]

Mittens is using games against stronger players to get better at chess. Don't play Mittens if your elo is above 1000! Mittens will take over the world!

[@wittykittywoes]

im not very into chess. But when i first saw mittens i thought it was based on someone’s actual cat, and would be awful. (cats are not known for their good chess skills)

[@chullupa]

mittens is a bot that isn't a bot. in other words, it is the first bot that pairs you with an anonymous player and both of you think you are playing an engine but in reality you are both playing each other.

[@Zane_DX]

Yes, especially after Gothamchess video showing that fish is better than cat

[@Skelewar]

I feel like you forgot you have pawns by like move 20.

[@johanandhira5429]

Mitten bot is either playing 4000 elo and 1000 elo moves. No inbetween

[@Not-You-Tuber]

Try to make a draw with this cute mitten.. Before that we want rematch again and again..

[@jameswentland6604]

Play the hippo against mittens

[@StefanReich]

So someone took a random chess engine, hid the rating, added some silly scripted cat lines... and that's somehow interesting?

[@scottmartin6709]

Very good explanations for a player rated a measly 875

[@jinx1137]

Maybe mittens plays based on your opening tree

[@SevenTwo7ven]

Oh no my kitty

[@wordpress4373]

You got mittened.

[@inexistence1691]

i wanna see more!

[@nicoz4717]

Now play duck chess against mittens!

[@grzesiek7358]

IMeow ROSEN, let's fish!

[@cerwe8861]

I played mittens with computer assistance, i lost all the time

[@unluckym3]

Can we talk about why he has martin with 1 star

[@fhdb6296]

2:22 Is knight a5 a good move or not?,it puts pressure on the pinned c6 knight,and also defends our pawn in d4

[@alexrouault7421]

Play against Mittens with unlimited takebacks. See how few you can use to beat it.

[@matt3694]

Why does Mittens, a kitten, make so many engine moves?

[@AFastidiousCuber]

Mittens is probably Komodo Dragon not Stockfish.

[@user80204]

I don't know why you didn't take bishop d5

[@alnath01]

there is a new challenge now : who will 1rst release a "How I beat Mittens" video ? 🤣 this guy will get a big psychological advantage 😁

[@torko121212]

Changs a mittens!

[@patrik_conjar8394]

mittens using an engine!?

[@franciscopen1681]

More, but please take your time, I get the impression that you don't fully calculate in deep

[@潘柘字]

Apparently mittens is near the level of stockfish

[@Red-qv4nb]

Theory: mittens is a stream sniper

[@GoodraTM]

Oh no both our queens XD

[@rayclay2]

thank you. that cute kitty does have a sophisticated foul mouth~! ❤ hi twitch fans ~

[@AsiccAP]

Mittens feels like an adaptive bot. What if you intentionally play badly? As Sun tzu once said, "All war is deception." You trick her into thinking you're an easy target, and when she lets her guard down, you strike with your true powers. She may be better at chess, but we are better at mental warfare.

[@piercearora7681]

hmm interesting... I think that's worth considering. Also if I was a strong enough player to have a realistic chance I would try engine-crusher lines such as the critical c3 line of the Stafford (jonathan schranz has some great vids on it), they have been shown to beat SF, although Mittens' affinity for playing with her food may well throw a wrench in things.

[@Keldor314]

The problem is that Mittens strategy is very likely something along the lines of "play the worst move that still gives me at least a 0.5 pawn advantage", and "if there isn't any such move, just play the best move possible" (with the advantage target increasing a bit as the game goes on so it doesn't just draw most of the time). This means that even if you try the the mental warfare technique, you'll still have to overcome it from a slightly loosing position, even if all the bad moves earlier on both sides resulted in this position being quite unusual. Every so often, it'll miscalculate and the human may end up in a advantageous position, and in this case, if they're a good enough player, they may have a chance to hold out for a victory, but it's a rare occurance.

[@sparks6177]

I think it’s probably closer to “playing as poorly as it can, while still maintaining winning chances” you will feel like you are doing well but in reality mittens is still in a position that with the help of the engine is nearly always a win

[@nomer440]

Frankly I wanna hear Eric say mittens

[@noyam]

more mittens content please! :)

[@Anonymous_Music]

I hate that they removed mittens

[@markrobertson3054]

Even benjamin drew

[@TheDukana]

U shoud force pawn in front he can move horse

[@henrixderletzteseinerart2099]

yes more mittens content please you need to finali beat him

[@whocan_duncan]

MORE KITTY

[@Questerer]

I want to see all the mittens content especially till you defeat Mittens first time.

[@dalibormraovic1547]

Wondering why U didn't move your black bishop 8:41🙂?

[@arshiyakermani]

7:19 no it does not, you are playing better this time

[@ValkyRiver]

Mittens' actual rating is at least 3000 higher than the rating it shows.

[@jacobv_]

Mittens using deep blue

[@dan13221]

I feel inspired now to crush mittens! Lets go eric

[@vedranb87]

Yes! more mittens!

[@teddonaville1151]

losing to a little house cat lmao

[@agnigabrielnunez808]

Stock Niemann

[@ethan6627]

yes more mittens

[@jessicav2031]

Defending hanging pieces with tactics........against Stockfish?! Part brave, part insane. Mmm, drama :)

[@linuslucke3838]

Well it's not SF, SF plays different and also better