Ross's Game Dungeon: Boppin'

[@AE-jo2fy]

So let me get this straight, they made a game 20 years ago about throwing things with a character named "Yeet"? This game was made by fortune tellers.

[@Ribbons0121R121]

no it was by time travellers that were trying to deliberately bless the world with good memes

[@machiner6]

The back story says that "Yeet" and "Boik" were game characters designed by aliens, so...

[@valletas]

@@Bobo-ox7fj homofobia?

[@theequitableprose]

Hence the tarot

[@MrNobody47710]

@Silent Solitude Jennifer Diane Reitz is also the creator of the slightly infamous "Kokoro Wish" comic, in which she has her husband berate himself for being a failed game designer. As far as I can tell, "Boppin'" is the only game that she and her husband ever created. She started to create webcomics after she had a mental breakdown, which came from the personal realization that she had spent a massive chunk of her life on game development, while failing to complete any games. Ben Saint has an entire lecture covering her: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qIDRXpqJidh3bc0 Basically, she's the original weeb. She was incorporating otaku culture into her works long before anyone else. She was also ahead of time, with game design, by trying to design an open world planet trekking game on the Amiga, known as "Multiverse." The game was never finished. Unfortunately, in the past decade, she's become incredibly bitter and misanthropic. The "Kokoro Wish" comic was created, in this time frame. In this time frame, she's also been creating a large amount of MLP fanfiction on Fimfiction, in two separate AU collection of fanfictions, "Friendship is Optimal" and "The Conversion Bureau." The former is about a massive digital network in which humans are sacrificing their physical forms to adopt pony OC's, with Celestia being the supreme AI of the network. The latter is about an alternate world in which FiM ponies exist alongside humans, in the same world. Human civilization is collapsing, due to humans being terrible, and ponies, who are depicted as a far more peaceful species with a far more stable civilization, are converting humans into ponies, in conversion camps. The humans in the camps are willing participants. Reitz sides with the ponies, in her stories. Edit: OK, so it turns out that "Kokoro Wish" was probably created during the "mental breakdown" period as an expression of her initial bitterness towards her failure to create games with her husband. That would explain why the artwork is a bit iffy, compared to her other works. The webcomics that she created in the early 2000's were of a higher quality. She incorporated her ability to depict strange realities, which follow their own rules, into the webcomics. Also, all of her AU MLP fanfiction is exclusively within "The Conversion Bureau" AU. She just takes some inspiration from "Friendship is Optimal." As far as I can tell, she's responsible for creating the majority of the major conventions, in the "Conversion" AU. The original story was written by a teenager, who had recently learned some the horrible actions of humanity in history, as a form of wish fulfillment. It's fairly basic, and it's incomplete. It didn't establish much of an AU, on its own, which gave her an opportunity to create a full AU. She has some skills with doing that, in her webcomics.

[@thebatter2127]

4:38 "Yeet is obviously the cooler one." Wise words from Ross himself, 3 years before the word yeet even became popular.

[@tompeck5495]

Bear in mind, he IS a time traveller.

[@Reac2]

I think he was right on time and you were just 3 years late. I have evidence of yeet being popular in 2017 and it was propably already before. It was a thing when Vine still existed...

[@tonypepporoni1271]

i think you mean one but one, that is one mistake, and you were not on one try, therefore, you have more than one thing to say when you speak one more time.

[@xAxCx]

Ross has a time machine. Didn't you know?

[@WaterMusic34]

He is a wizard, man

[@noahwilliams8996]

"Your head is ROUND! You're not thinking like a triangle." -Ross Scott 2016.

[@Ribbons0121R121]

i think like a tetradehedron on bath salts

[@AnEvilMathematician]

@@renmcmanus I would like that quote on a shirt.

[@jug0572]

Ok so, this is a game about throwing stuff and the main character is named YEET. Goddamn this game really can predict the future

[@qwertyqeys]

I recently read a webcomic by one of the developers of this game called unicorn jelly, and it also has complex diagrams of the universe at different zoom levels, complicated morality, and questions about what constitutes a good person or why we care about things

[@masako8980]

Holy shit that was them?

[@qwertyqeys]

@@masako8980 yeah! everything this creator touches seems to have this weird fusion of cute aesthetics and hard hitting philosophic questions

[@masako8980]

@@qwertyqeys no kidding man

[@masako8980]

@@fireflocs go on

[@Necromortus]

@@masako8980 Look up the Conversion Bureau. I only just found out about it today and it is... dubious to say the least. Apparently there's multiple authors with different takes on the story so I'm not sure it's ALL as misanthropic as the previous commenter makes it out to be but it's definitely one of the weirdest premises I've heard about. It does kinda unwillingly, I think, make the ponies out to be the villains, even if the author realizes it or not.

[@crittermoded]

Well, "yeet" is really earning his name

[@JeepusChrystler]

I knew someone would make that joke if I checked up on this episode.

[@lionocyborg6030]

What does it even mean?

[@lionocyborg6030]

@@renmcmanus Thanks.

[@jeffread6593]

They were obviously retroactively named for the game play itself -- "Yeet" for the throwing of the blocks and "Boik" for the sound they make when they carom off the edges.

[@MyLeafyGreenAss]

What..?

[@geoffrayyy]

14:31 A ton of Apogee titles were recently removed from Steam including the 3DRealms Anthology as of 2016 - something to do with Gearbox owning the rights to Duke Nukem now and 3DR has been struggling with lawsuits from the ego-maniac known as Randy Pitchford.

[@thismouseisillegal944]

The background in 12:37 features Bob from the Church of the Subgenius and the golden apple not only from Greek myth (Eris), but from Discordianism: two fringe religious/trolling/art movements from the 1950s. It make sense why this game curveballs one with defamiliarizing puzzles at times.

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Hail Eris. 🍎 -A Pope of Discord

[@chudbabies]

Praise "Bob"!

[@KaptainSuz]

Discordianism also being the reason we have the Illuminati!

[@mandridhugh9555]

this game is like if someone took the corruption engine Vinny used and somehow made it into a game.

[@LabMatt]

NO, SAY IT LIKE YOU MEAN IT PUT SOME HEART INTO IT RAAAAAAAGHHHHHH

[@DyoKasparov]

+Lab Matt k.

[@DyoKasparov]

Xelinth the episode is instantly awesome if it has Ross in it, what you were trying to say really is that Ross's Game Dungeon shouldn't have any guests, because that way the humor Ross puts out is way better in some way, still I like how Ross at first was optimistic about the game and Tom blew it all up xDDD I might be talking shit mate, I'm on that point where you still are drunk, but at the same time you know you are yet you try to make sense, so if you can't understand shit from my comment I don't blame you

[@DyoKasparov]

Xelinth Ross said he didn't plan doing episodes with guest anytime soon, so I guess few months away, or longer. I know Ross works his ass of, I've been following the dude since the Freeman's Mind and Machinima bullshit.

[@cah137-y4s]

For some reason your profile image works really well with that.

[@LabMatt]

Christoph TSS This is the second most popular response my comments get. The first is "I've seen you commenting somewhere else before".

[@siralexander3359]

Holy shit is this the origin of the word 'yeet"? As to throw something!!!

[@Otakupatriot117]

I always felt like it was an evolution of "yee" which came from that Italian dinosaur movie. But since that was just as obscure as this game before the meme came out, that could actually be the case.

[@SuperCatfire]

no im sure the real origin is much stupider

[@zigfaust]

@@SuperCatfire My pal started using it based on that dinosaur video. At first he said "Yee" in the same voice when he died in a game ala dinosaurs going extinct. I assumed he changed it to yeet when everyone else started using it cuz thats what people were doing at the time...

[@SuperCatfire]

@@zigfaust rsthdfgjgjh yeah i dont think the meme came from an obscure 90s game

[@tba113]

@@SuperCatfire You lack vision.

[@Bluith]

Its nice getting two points of view on the game, ross is even literally wearing his nostalgia glasses in his reaction shots.

[@RoyalFusilier]

A friend introduced me to this series before I actually saw Freeman's Mind. Now I'm watching both with them, and I'm really glad they showed me the way.

[@threemoo]

I rewatched this again now a year later... As someone who works with VR constantly (game development), I should point out something that I think Ross knows now after trying out VR... If someone grabs your leg while playing a VR Horror game, that is one scary a** prank! It might get you crying if you're not used to playing VR much!

[@dr_lazer4694]

Remember when Ross was yelling at that one reviewer to "say it like you mean it!" in The Secret World episode? That pretty much sums up my feelings with this CO-host. It sounds like he wants to care, but it doesn't have the same punch 'n feel that Ross does.

[@uppishcub1617]

+DR_LaZer I hate tom this show doesn't work with a co host

[@HibekiGuy]

+uppishcub1 I think the co-host Idea can work, but this just wasn't a great Co-host

[@uppishcub1617]

FlyingRep it would have to be a guy with the exact same humor as ross also it really doenst work for game dungeon the idea can work just not on game dungeon

[@beeooowexists5374]

+DR_LaZer I was listening to this episode in the background. Because of Tom's energy, at first I thought he was footage from some other review Ross was using to riff off. Not to knock Tom, but he sounded a bit off. Might just be his mic though.

[@gamertimeheehoo]

+uppishcub1 What's the point in a co-host if they're just a parrot?

[@DinnerForkTongue]

For me, this co-op experiment was a success. Loved the points and counterpoints between you two, and actually found myself agreeing often with both sides. This was a more sober episode than what I'm used to out of the Game Dungeon, but it's definitely a nice mold breaker. And it really opened my eyes to Tom's channel, which is a bonus.

[@BottomOfTheDumpsterFire]

Tom is entertaining in his own right, but it doesn't mix well with Ross as I'm expecting the episode to fall down into some weird Illuminati shit like Polaris Snocross' Point Defiance time traveler thing, but Tom does a flat review compared to Ross's insanity.

[@bitzibaerlie]

I disagree. I think Tom complemented him well. There would be no point if they both had exactly the same style, in my opinion. And I honestly think Tom was the more insane one in this game, as he was in the Moon Gaming one.

[@AGrayPhantom]

+bitzibaerlie Exactly. You need a straight man, and the foil, in order for a comedic duo to work. Like Batman and the Joker.

[@Butts666]

What I dislike the most about Tom's performance is how fake his anger sounds most of the time. Like he's half-arsedly trying to jump on the mainstream videogame youtuber bandwagon of just screaming and calling everything shit before stopping to try and understand it. And don't get me wrong, that format can be entertaining too (hell, I still re-watch old Spoony reviews from time to time), it just feels awkwardly forced here.

[@rtsgod]

@@Butts666 idk, with spoony some of his reviews seems like real anger, especially ultima 9

[@placeholder7054]

Judging from this video Tom outright sucks.

[@Maniac4Bricks]

This game haunted me as a kid, and now I finally know its name again and more of what it's like. I didn't understand the controls so I remembered two things for years about this game: the crying animation and sound, and the alternative suicide animation, taking off glass and pulling a Kurt Cobain impression, with eyes widened and bloody. A few frames each but very impactful.

[@captainalaric]

Flicking through TV Nothing to watch Phone buzzes YT Notification "Please be Ross" Is Ross Thanks Ross

[@cupriferouscatalyst3708]

Ross: "This part is kind of tedious" Tom: "I SCREAMED"

[@Gabri_Lovecraft]

A lot of people really knocked Tom in this episode, but honestly, as someone that has a friendship like Ross and Tom I can appreciate it so much more. The way Tom just destroys this game into pieces, and then Ross just calmly goes "haha yeah this game is weird" is amazing.

[@mariic2]

Fun Fact: One of the programmers for this game is Jennifer Diane Reitz of _Unicorn Jelly_ fame. Not-as-fun Fact: They are more infamously known online as Chayotance, whose contributions to _The Conversion Bureau_ are controversial.

[@s.p.tucker1604]

Does he not get into that in this video? I'm surprised if not, you can't really talk about Boppin' without talking about JDR being a hollering fucking crazy person.

[@sapare7838]

As a proud brony this awoke a curiosity in me that had to be sated. I had heard of the fic but never payed it any heed. I would like my innocence returned to me pls.

[@masako8980]

@@sapare7838 what's the rundown

[@sapare7838]

​@@masako8980 Honestly long enough that I don't remember the details. Also, i didn't read the fic(s), they are absurdly long, I just read about them, and a bunch of posts from the author in the comments. However if I recall right its a fic where earth and Equestria(the My little pony setting) slowly merge into one, forcing both to live along each other. But in reality the whole thing is a setup by the ponies to brainwash humanity by offering them to be turned into ponies and live in Equestria. Which honestly would be a fine fic, I like weird unique stuff, but from everything I read: the brainwashing ponies who trick people into becoming ponies,(which if I recall right actively changes their mindset to become pro pony even if they were not before) are pictured as the "good" guys. And the group that is trying to blow the whistle/stop them is stupid for trying to change progress, and eventually all get killed or converted. The author made multiple statements about wanting humanity to end, being pro SJW/LGBTQ and I suspect the whole fic is a stand in for the modern "you with us or to be eradicated" movement on that. I like dark fics, I don't like dark fics when the author is not in on what it is. or is actively endorsing the villains.(sympathizing and complex villains is fine, saying humanity deserves to die so anything that can be done to them is moral... is not) Edit: Just to affirm again, its been like a year since i looked into this, so if I got anything wrong, sorry.

[@masako8980]

@@sapare7838 that's really fucking wild

[@WeirdVideoGames]

Well, I'm really sorry so many of you guys didn't like my addition to the review. Thanks for your feedback.

[@patrickcorbett3563]

I thought you were good

[@battlegeekplus]

+Weird Video Games That Tom guy makes me mad! He's an evil genius or something.

[@jameshetfieldserbia]

+Weird Video Games Don't listen to them - you got your own thing going :)

[@turdytootsan3258]

+Weird Video Games I thought you were alright, I think people are over-exaggerating.

[@kalebbrown93]

This was way better than the original "moon gaming" video. I think some people are afraid of change. I guess it just takes time to build on screen chemistry?

[@AIagremm]

Sweet, a new Game Dungeon! Always worth the wait.

[@Indeside]

and not the weight

[@FallenWarfare1775]

Half life 3 confirmed.

[@Accursed_Farms]

Hey, just a reminder, that the next videochat will be on twitch.tv/rossbroadcast on Feb 7th, 4PM EST.

[@DrMecha]

+Accursed Farms Make sure to Read Unicorn Jelly before you do.

[@geranarthy2309]

+Accursed Farms Please do Bastion!

[@odinoczka]

+Accursed Farms Speaking of RPGs. Planescape: Torment? :P

[@Gunslingerwashere]

+Accursed Farms HOLY SHIT, DAS MY BIRTHDAY. THANKS ROSS!!!!!!!!

[@Nyghtfall]

+Frisky No way, that's my birthday aswell!

[@EricTalwin]

The moment When I saw the level with Bob of The Church Of The Subgenius in the background where you can throw apples of discord I finally understood. You really know how to pick 'em Ross.

[@DJstarrfish]

12:15 They fit Bob Dobbs in this game, now _there's_ something worth noting.

[@DragoonEnRegalia]

+Myconix Game's close enough to Discordian, or at least cryptic and subversive.

[@TheInsomniaddict]

It has the golden apple too. No hotdogs, which seems weird. Or holy.

[@rtyui136]

Thank Bob someone noticed that as well

[@macannathairghrian5257]

plenty of apples too. hail eris,

[@ChronoHarvester]

I'm undecided about the whole co-host idea. What I do know is that this was a very good game choice to bring a co-host on. Ross usually doesn't ignore negative features, but being open about the fact that you may have a negative playing experience was an important perspective.

[@NekoJesusPie]

Tom's received a lot of criticism in the comments, so I'm gonna focus on what I think was right. Having watched Moon Gaming, I feel like he's gotten way better. I kind of enjoy his depressed, deadpan approach to how he narrates games, specially with the analogies he uses. It's like he's so broken by the game that he's just numb, however, I think it needs some work. He could stand to add a little more sarcasm or something to it, or perhaps other gags to keep the monotone from going on too long. We have a lot of videogame commentators who sound like they don't care and those that do often just scream or get angry, we don't have many who are just done with the game, so I feel this is a cool road he might be on I'm not an actor of any sort, so what the hell do I know, but I feel this might help.

[@supersultan7374]

Ross saying "yeet" over and over again is so pleasant to hear.

[@CosmicInsomniac]

"Tune in next episode for the best game I've played created by a transsexual. Oh wait, that was this game!" I wonder how much Ross knows the creator is responsible for Kokoro Wish

[@ZillMob]

Are you are tou talking about Doug teenager who they said did the music? Cause I know them from comic books. I forget the name it had weird cats and was by the company that did Johnny the homicidal maniac and squee

[@ZillMob]

Doug tenaple

[@GhostSilk]

Y'know, it's weird. As I was making coffee this morning, I thought to myself "When's the new Game Dungeon coming out?" and lo and behold, it was just uploaded. Gonna have to flag your channel for telepathic tendencies if this keeps happening, Ross.

[@itaybron]

was the coffee good though?

[@GhostSilk]

itaybron It was alright. I ran out of creamer by my second cup, so it was a bit lacking. 6/10, could've been worse.

[@itaybron]

Poison Jam fair enough.

[@TheOjkk]

i wish i knew how to make coffee. I don't even think we have those machines around here

[@itaybron]

TheOjkk we just used freeze dried coffee here, you add hot water sugar and milk mix it up and you're good to go

[@SgtFlapjacks]

I think Tom's addition to this episode was great-- Ross seems to have had a completely different impression of the game than Tom. Ross serves to point out everything worth speaking about from the game (it is his game dungeon, after all,) and Tom serves to criticize it from a more objective standpoint. I'm not sure exactly why Tom is getting so much flak, I haven't really read anything other than "i dont like tom, ross you are ruining my life"

[@handsomebrick]

I know that Ross is a fan of Tom's work, as am I, but I imagine if I saw a guest I hated on this show I'd probably complain. It's also possible that people don't actually hate Tom, they only hate the idea of guests on the Game Dungeon. I notice that a lot of the complaints are about Tom being negative, which would only make sense if this was an unscripted conversation, this makes me think that people are looking for flimsy excuses to hate him.

[@elgatochurro]

i simply dont feel they meshed well together in their work. Could need better execution like Tom being more enthusiastic.

[@skaraokplays]

I don't like Tom's voice acting. I don't have anything against him personally, but trying to listen to him explain things about the game is tiresome. With Ross, I feel like I could listen to him read off a medicine label and still be entertained. I'm not against the idea of having guests on Game Dungeon, but listening to Tom's voice here makes it really difficult to listen to while rewatching.

[@Shenaldrac]

Apparently, from reading other comments, people don't like his performance because he isn't putting enough emotion into it. Sorry that not everyone when being critical of a game sounds like the AVGN, I guess? You don't need to be constantly going ham with your audio, you can speak in a calm, measured tone. Would it really be better if he faked being angry and more "emotion" into his lines? I don't think so. I like Ross's stuff, I wouldn't be watching the show if I didn't, but I always felt that that comment from the Secret World video was very telling of his personal tastes more than what's necessarily good. It's all up to taste.

[@_EvilKam]

@@skaraokplays I like Tom's vocal presentation. Trying to listen to him explain things about the game is refreshing, especially when the frustration becomes evident with the game's difficulty. He seems a bit more reserved than Ross, and hearing that reservation crumble mirrors the complaints I often have with games. His experience as he describes it here really resonates with me. Tom's presence makes this one of my favorites to re-watch.

[@turkeycannon161]

The story behind the creator of Boppin is actually really interesting.

[@admiraltonydawning3847]

Creator refers to Apogee as a "the utterly farged-up deal" and "what a nightmare that was".

[@predcon1]

You talk about the levels looking like your unconscious mind, strange dreams and stuff. I invite you to check out the author's webpage, and her webcomics. Girl's got some issues of her own.

[@PseudoKnight]

I really liked the back-and-forth here with two different perspectives. In many ways Tom represents the majority. That's why we tend not to see games like this these days. Everything today is ridiculously tutorialized, and if a player gets stuck, it's the developer's fault. In many respects, this is correct (to a certain extent), but I don't think this necessarily means games that are obscure, hard to crack, and unusually punishing "bad". That's probably only true if they were poorly executed to their vision, and those qualities were simply symptoms. We could ask ourselves what we would change in this game. If we did those changes, would it still be as interesting of a game? Or would it be normal and forgettable. I think it found an interesting use for sprite-swapping as gameplay, but maybe got carried away in a few levels. Also, yes, that boss battle is bad. lol

[@J4hk2]

This is the plot to Wreck-It Ralph 2 isn't it? "Ralph, you've got to rescue these bad guys from this "so good he's actually bad" bad guy. We would do it ourselves but we're good guys and we can't be seen rescuing bad guys."

[@deadmaybejun6835]

J4hk2 lol and part 1

[@deadmaybejun6835]

Jk

[@treehann]

This is one of the most utterly fascinating games I've ever seen. The story about the child wanting revenge is disturbing. And the visuals are just the stuff of dreams. Thanks for sharing this!

[@blacksabbath7243]

Can believe the guy who made this was the husband of the kokoro wish girl

[@auralunaprettycure]

black sabbath it sounds to me like halfway through development he went crazy lmao. A fully blind level with no lantern to light your way?

[@blacksabbath7243]

@T.P.A The Peoples Army the boppin Dev, not Ross.

[@dumbass4615]

The kokoro wish girl did the art pretty sure

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

@The New Salem Elites Or The N.S.E I don't understand about half of the terms in that comment.

[@blacksabbath7243]

@The New Salem Elites Or The N.S.E you seem pretty epic, do you have a discord?

[@007bistromath]

Jeez, am I the only one who thought the co-host this time was pretty good? I mean, he clearly isn't as hardened to the cruel realities of bullshit game design as Ross is, but that's why his commentary is valuable! It's like what a normal person who hasn't been drinking small amounts of poison for years would say.

[@ClassyJackBF]

I now know that even Yahtzee and Total Biscuit watch these, Ross is just that good.

[@Wuselol]

woaah.. literally my entire family has played this game back in the 90s. I remember being quite disturbed by the imagery (I was born in '91 so still a kid when playing, or actually mostly watching this game). Fun times

[@Screamingreader]

I liked the co-host thing. It was really interesting to hear about the game from a different perspective, concerning things Ross might overlook due to his nostalgia for it. I never imagined that the game could be so frustrating. Good episode.

[@lilwyvern4]

I was just thinking of how I wanted someone to cover this game. Thank you. The readme states there are two endings. Does that mean there's a second one that requires some sort of special scenario? By the way, the bosses take fewer hits the more points you have. Them scorepoints actually have a purpose!

[@anahte4003]

8:54 I guess you could say you need a GUIDE for this game? Maybe a guide for hitchhikers?

[@JettMann8]

OMG, Ross... this is one of the first games I ever played. I have been trying for years to remember it. You are my hero

[@ThisVideoAnnoyedMe]

Anyone interested in recreating the music of this game should get a Korg Volca FM, it exactly reproduces the synth sound of it.

[@Zer0d00d]

Oh man, I remember this game.. Me and my brother played the hell outta' this. Thanks for reviewing and bringing an old classic to light.

[@Darlos9D]

Every time a new video comes out, I'm like "Ross...? OH, RIGHT, THIS GUY!"

[@Accursed_Farms]

+Darlos9D I feel the same way.

[@slaineify6102]

You two need to stop hitting the blunt so hard.

[@lordofduct]

Every time I see a new one... I scream "GAME DUNGEON!!!!!!!", then make my lunch, and sit down and thoroughly enjoy my afternoon.

[@darklordash6993]

+Accursed Farms when will you play half life 2 please Ross WE FUCKING NEED HL2FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK SACK

[@dontspikemydrink9382]

+Darklord Ash he HAS TO MAKE THE MOVIE

[@GamingWolf_Plays]

Amazing. Thanks for putting this up after the podcast you had up with TotalBiscuit and co when up sooner then you expected. I want to get through this game point and encourage everyone to use the Level Editor. Well I mean because Level Editors rock.

[@blasterboy123456]

wait ,one of the characters is called YEET, and the hole game your throwing stuff? maybe Ross was onto something about this game predicting the future...

[@neilb6933]

loved the format, as well as the analysis! this was the first game I ever bought by mail, and it was so devilishly hard that I never made it further than the TV level early on.

[@Red0543]

It was an pleasant suprise to see Tom in this episode :) also, as always, this episode was worth the wait!

[@GeorgeMonet]

"You see, Sweety's world was ruled by a totalitarian theocracy. People were forced to play in the arcades to forget the hopelessness of their lives. The programmers who created Sweety wanted him to embody the remnants of their own rebelious spirit. He became enormously people because he symbolized the freedom that his world craved. The power of Sweety reflected the beliefs of the people who made him real. He could have embodied the freedom that his creators craved. Unfortunately, he lacked the same courage that they lacked. He couldn't question the laws and beliefs that had enslaved his world's people any more than they could. In the end, he became the incarnation of the evil that his creators despised." I think this encapsulates the problem I have with a lot of video game stories produced by asian developers.

[@IsraelScariot]

I honestly thought this must have been released recently due to the game design being so bizarre and engineered towards challenging the player's mindset with respect to how to play the game. I had to look it up to see the game came out in 1991.

[@ClassyPasta]

So. I don't hate Tom. But I don't think his type of humor and attitude mixes well with Ross.

[@CatsWithMachineGuns]

+ClassyPasta Like garlic bread and whipped cream?

[@ClassyPasta]

+TheKittenBreaker Exactly, two things that are good on their own but not together.

[@Xeotroid]

+ClassyPasta I have a friend who put tuna spread (with mayo, onion etc.) on pancakes and he liked it. So I think there are people who wouldn't mind garlic bread with whipped cream.

[@ClassyPasta]

True, some people will like how they're humor meshes. I'm just not one of em.

[@DinnerForkTongue]

I'm gonna remember that analogy for the rest of my life...

[@PhirePhlame]

The secret Accursed Toys screen is actually the original - version 1.0 of Boppin' uses that one exclusively.

[@skeleton_craftGaming]

There's actually a third option... The composers could also be so good that they're good enough to know how to write bad music... And it sounds like that is actually what happened

[@ggwrw3400]

I certainly don't want to see guests like Tom omitted, but I definitely think the dynamic needs some work. For instance, when Tom first appeared and started talking, I was confused. From the way he was talking I wasn't sure if he was reviewing it with you or if you were using his clips from a previously recorded video. By the end of the video I was on board with his presence but something about his introduction to the video was... jarring somehow. Also, based on the way your audio meshed I'm guessing you both recorded your parts individually. While this make sense from the Game Dungeon standpoint, I'm not sure I can agree with it. If you're going to have multiple people review or talk about a game (or any product really), it makes more sense to me for all reviewers to be together so that the ideas and subjects can bounce between them. As I implied before, it didn't seem like Tom was reviewing it with you so much as you included clips of his review. Now, I realize that the preferred scenario I'm describing is the Moon Gaming episode which wasn't too popular either, but there has to be a way to make this work. I get what you're trying to do here, and I'm sure there's a version of this that will appease your audience the way you want it to. I think you need to keep looking is all.

[@LenkyLad]

The game dungeon is currently undergoing renovations and will be open again to the public soon.

[@Ζήνων-ζ1ι]

This episode always reminded me of the early BotW episodes where people would hate on Jack, demanding only Mike, Jay and Rich.

[@cheezorger]

Got confused for a second why the RLM gang would have letsplays of Breath of the Wild But yeah it does kinda suck everytime it has to go this way

[@SpunkMayo]

Shitty of people to do this crap. Remember you're talking about a real person. Besides, Jack Packard is a gem.

[@SoylentThulhu]

I got this on a shareware CD along with Rise of the Triad and a few others. I still love this game to no end!

[@badneighbor]

I apparently blocked this game from my memory after all the trauma it caused me as a kid. Now all that pain has come flooding back to me.

[@dschwamm]

Oh man I knew you'd have to do one for this game eventually. I always knew this game would be right up this series' alley.

[@carlosalbertotorres6609]

I thought Tom did fine. Keep doing you Ross

[@NicoUnken]

I really like it when you talk about games. You do go into detail and you talk about some unusual ones.

[@ryantillotson627]

Am i the only one here that want's to hear a "We're not bop bippin the boop beets here" remix?

[@artstsym]

Jennifer Diane Reitz? As in the Pastel Defender Heliotrope creator? Oh hell yes, this can only be bewildering and convoluted beyond measure.

[@kademan13]

7:13 Golden apples with the letter K? Her apple corps is strong! As soon as I read the manifesto from the developers I felt some peculiar familiarity with the ideas being presented to me through this game. 12:23 The influences of this game are incredibly obvious at this point.

[@skazwolfman8622]

Hail Discordja! (Tom clearly needs to consult his pituitary gland to master this game)

[@viscountrainbows6452]

Hail Eris 🍎

[@Roxor128]

Never seen the bear with a plunger title screen. I've only ever seen the bloody teddy one.

[@atomheartother]

Ross, you do whatever you want with your show , I know, but I have some criticism here, just as an anonymous watcher: Tom seriously needs to step up how invested he sounds when he talks about these games, or you need to keep Moon Gaming out of Game Dungeon honestly. I cannot for the life of me pay attention to Tom when he's talking about the game, he's just not nearly as entertaining as you to listen to, and that sort of sucks because I REALLY enjoy Game Dungeon content. Again seriously if you wanna keep doing this that's cool but I feel like I can't *possibly* be the only one who feels this way in your audience.

[@UbScD]

+atomheartother Absolutely.

[@PanoThePeakbagger]

+atomheartother Tom made me go to sleep.

[@cybor8022]

I don't mind him

[@RaburnTPF0297]

+Dean Taylor LOL I literally fell asleep during one of Toms part

[@NintendoAddictNAD]

+atomheartother Absolutely this. Either he needs to match Ross' enthusiasm to keep up the pace of the show, or if he wants to be a drier counter to Ross, then he needs to be sound more like it. Right now, his lines aren't bad, but the juxtaposition of his "average youtube game reviewer delivery circa 2011" compared to Ross' unique style just makes parts of this feel weak.

[@KaptainSuz]

Fun fact about the creator: She created the fucking My Kokoro Wish comic as well, and a couple webcomics that have WILD universes surrounding the nature of mortality, time travel, and sex dolls being turned into super heroes, the COGIATI which by all metrics is a TERRIBLE way to figure out if you're trans or not and you shouldn't use as any kind of legitimate test, and she's a notable MLP fanfiction artist that apparently the MLP fandom has a ton of problems with.

He has autism and loves the transformers series.

[@jeffread6593]

Boppin' was designed by Jennifer Diane Reitz, a magical unicorn creator goddess temporarily assuming human form as a scary transsexual misanthrope from Oregon. If you think the game is trolling you, that's kind of the point. _You_ are still stuck in your constrictive morality and the limiting perspective of a resident of _Mundis mundis_, a boring, nondescript universe of round planets. Good or evil, fun or frustrating, these are constructs that the cruel human world imposes upon you, and if you do not free yourself and open your mind to the vastness of the Multiverse, you are like Hunnybunz: but a reflection of the evil of the world that made you. And _all_ of her creations are like this, from Boppin' to her My Little Pony fanfic, which involves ponies committing genocide against humans as Equestria slowly merges with Earth. It's like everything she creates has to be some sort of personal symbolic revenge against the world for having Christianity in it or something.

[@maggi_knorr]

That's kinda creepy from her, mostly since she then became so insane she got a heart attack.

[@jeffread6593]

Which she then proceeded to blame on the Christians.

[@Slater2113]

Want to know what my kokoro wish is?

[@ratsofftoya]

Jennifer is honestly fucking awesome I love her shit

[@bigdaddydean1234]

@@maggi_knorr he*

[@ptrd4111]

13:47 holy shit, its J.R "Bob" Dobbs. Not surprising the devs of Boppin were also fans of the Church of the SubGenius

[@Babbleplay]

I am in awe of your taste in games to review. I kinda sorta maybe made a quickie review of this obscure gem a short while before this was uploaded, but, that was just a quick 'Hey, I remember this', this is really impressive. Game Dungeon is a great series, and I really appreciate the effort you put into making it. Thanks to your video on the game, my GF and I both play Secret World, and this is me never having gotten into an MMO before this. We play together, and it's a source of much fun and enjoyment between us. Dumb little slice of life story, but, thought you might like to know you have a positive affect in a million different ways in many lives, even by making fun videos about classic and obscure gaming.

[@z.s.7992]

that bear with the dead eyes? yeah thats the kind of bear that when it enters the bar you pay your tab and walk the hell out. If your buddy is in the bathroom you just pretend you don't know him.

[@infernocanuck]

I don't hate Tom. I don't love Tom. Glad Tom is around for just this episode, though. I prefer it when you go solo, Ross.

[@seigeengine]

Ross, you're the only reason I can ever manage to remember that Poland is an actual place. And I still don't even manage that all the time.

[@CatsT.M]

Wait... That ending... That ending literally described what AIs are becoming, people think they will be perfect but do not realise that they will have the same biases of the people who created them... Nice.

[@voltcorp]

12:22 if you got the references being made in this stage, all the craziness would be explained, AND you'd gain slack.

[@LeonardAndHisBiscuit]

Ross, you are now- in my mind- an immortal space hippie who summons random people to casually play old, infuriating games. Except it's just one person you summon, and he's gradually going insane from it.

[@JomasterTheSecond]

"Doug Tennaple hitting himself in the face with a bag of cutlery."

[@hobpie]

How come Ankh were so prevalent as treasure in games through the 90s? (top right 2:50) I think I could name a dozen or so Amiga games that used them alone.

[@curofbadenoch4301]

+Hobo Pie And in Bip Bop it was used as an extra life...

[@Zearo298]

If I am not mistaken the background pattern for some of the menus is a pixellated mandelbrot set fractal. Definitely fitting in with the whole multiverse weirdness.

[@Atlas018]

Wow this game is meta.

[@MattMelon519]

I think if original Boppin was used as a form of cruel and unusual punishment for criminals, requiring them to play the whole thing with no save states, the world would be a much safer place.

[@danielsurvivor1372]

This game aged surprisingly well lore details vise, the character name is Yeet and story is about him fighting self righteous morality police trying to censor video games for having villains. It aged INCREDIBLY well, this game would do well on Steam if the gameplay was updated a bit

[@xAxCx]

That bear has the eyes of someone who's sick of your shit and is about to do some "plumbing".

[@MickeyD2012]

Surprise! Disney stole another idea.

[@SendyTheEndless]

The graphical style of this game is very endearing.

[@makraw9081]

“Yeet is obviously the cooler one” -Ross Scott, predicting the future

[@Eonymia]

Oh, that discordian/subgenius level tells me all I need to know about this game; It really is supposed to troll you, and make you question things. And of course it ends with a philosophical quandary, because of course it does.

[@0NodMan0]

Still waiting on the *Chip's Challenge* , video.

[@AS-ic6ic]

I love walking into Ross' dungeon, always know its going to be a good time.

[@skepticpunk_]

Am I crazy for being able to look at this game and be reminded of Homestuck, of all things? There's multiverses, dream bubbles, an existential bullshit plane of creation and oblivion...then again, considering who Jennifer Diane Reitz is and what she went on to make, maybe I shouldn't be surprised.

[@cornsyruptrucker]

Bip Bop is stellar. Also Yeet as a name is also stellar.

[@MitchellBirt]

Doesn't it feel like the ending pretty much qualifies as being in "Gainax Ending" territory?

[@Jastro88]

11:38 Businessmen are the most monstrous of all.

[@EggBastion]

After many years of watching your material I've come to realize that this is my favourite bit.

[@edbrito-swdev]

I loved playing this with friends when I was like 12. I'm 37 now.