YouTubers Sponsored This Scam: Pluralsight Revokes Lifetime Licenses & demand you pay again

[@lefunmenow4970]

While most KZbinrs face towards us with arrows and circles everywhere in the thumbnail, Louis faces away from us, giving his cat a dental help, main titled what he's doing which we find ourselves tempting to find out, on a video which comes with a subtitle which we find out is PART OF the content of the video. That is a brilliant new idea!

[@chitlitlah]

A lot of KZbinrs give us the soy face in the thumbnails. It really dissuades me from clicking on the videos.

[@rossmanngroup]

Thank you! Hopefully I can get people to come help... 1000+ videos to translate into cited articles. this will be fun. I'm not going to ask you to sign up for Pluralsight or buy Raycons, but I will shamelessly ask that you contribute as much as humanly possible. Please read the homepage and how you can help at the top of the homepage. It is there as a link. Any contributions that you can make are highly appreciated. I ask that you consider getting involved in turning this into the best Encyclopedia of how companies have ripped people off and taken away your rights of ownership that has ever existed.

[@chitlitlah]

A lot of KZbinrs give us the soy face in the thumbnail. It dissuades me from clicking on their videos.

[@chitlitlah]

It's a lot better than the KZbinrs who give us the soy face in the thumbnails.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Louis is not the same...

[@andrejsasd8904]

EU and USA should get their shite together and forbid companies to use words "purchase", "buy", and "own" if the only way to use something is through online service/ access which can be removed at any time. If you can download and use it offline, you can use the words "purchase", "buy", and "own"

[@ElGoogKO]

The concept of ownership is already in laws and defined in laws, the problem is lawmakers are paid to protect interests of corporations and not consumers. Even if said laws are outright illegal. For example the laws where a car manufacturers must sell only through a specific series of companies in each state. That's anti free market, that's tampering, insider trading, call it wahtever. Dealerships paid for laws to be passed in almost all states in usa and any car manufacturer must use them or not sell physically.,

[@davidwhatever9041]

@ElGoogKO politicians chase power to serve on the spectrum of serving self interest to serving the people. the problem is that the vast majority if americans are called completely depoliticised ignoring state level politics and only getting involved in federal politics weeks before a presidential election. there is almost no punishment for bad behaviour by state level politicians, so don’t be surprised when this attracts the totally self interested and corrupt. and its at the state level that most consumer protection issues are controlled. even the most corrupt and self serving politician will moderate their bad behaviour to remain electable.

[@dragonproductions236]

As someone who has experience with the EU intervening in policy, I genuinely can't recommend or understand why you want them to mess with this. It sounds good, but you're going to just get COPPA'd. The EU is a bureaucratic cancer upon most of Europe.

[@petervengepetercarljackson8961]

Companies have purchased ownership of intellectual properties. What was their definitions of purchase and ownership in agreement again? Aren't their ownership of intellectual properties revocable then?

[@fracturedlife1393]

​@@dragonproductions236isn't COPPA US Federal? You talking GDPR? Or fascist USB-C

[@bendybruce]

A large faceless corporation redefining the meaning of words to remove the rights of consumers while at the same time deceiving them. We already live in a dystopia but just haven't realized it yet.

[@discordantduck1808]

The people we elect have names and faces, and they choose every day, with purpose, not to act. They empower this behaviour, they could stop it any moment, today if they wanted, and they won't, nor will they ever. Not while we continue to put them in power time after time. We do live in a dystopia, but it's one entirely of our own making.

[@equivalentexchangeisalie5726]

If a man in a dress is now a "woman" then anything is possible.

[@clockworkvanhellsing372]

I don't get how this doesn't fall under false advertiement, if they write purchase on the butten but then redefine it in the eula.

[@bp6942]

@discordantduck1808 Who else are we going to put in power? Democracy isnt a democracy when both choices are controlled. Choose guy A taking kickbacks from Corporations, or Choose guy B taking kickbacks from Corporations. Nevermind that most of these are bureaucrats who the voters have no power to effect, many of which are from the very industries they are supposed to regulate, and taking bribes openly through loopholes. Don't blame the citizen for things they have no power to change without mass organization, which every bit of propaganda is directed towards preventing, propaganda people are subjected to their entire lives.

[@discordantduck1808]

​@@bp6942who? nobody. We're going to continue living a notch above serfdom until the rot makes the current way of life an impossibility and then as with all of the rest of human history the context will change, maybe for the better, probably for the worse.

[@EphemeralTao]

I've made the mistake of paying for "lifetime" memberships too many times. In my experience, a "lifetime" membership typically lasts roughly three to five years before the company either goes out of business, discontinues the product line, sells out, or just decides they don't want to honor the "lifetime" part and institutes a new payment scheme.

[@douglashoward-t8o]

Fraud learned from the federal corporation posing as government.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

I've had some that last longer, but the issue tends to be that they don't charge enough for a lifetime license to cover providing it for the excpected useful life of the product or the owner. It's one thing for a knife to have a lifetime warranty that lasts 70 years, as a knife will commonly last that long as long as it's treated with any sort of appropriate care. However, most software products are not going to be usable in 10 years in any reasonable way. Software to load music onto a 20 year old Nomad Jukebox 3, is just not going to have anybody still using it with the frequency that would permit for updates. And, I think most people sort of get that, and at this point, there's not really anything stopping your from loading the software up on a VM and loading the content that way, as long as there isn't DRM preventing you from doing so.

[@EphemeralTao]

@@SmallSpoonBrigade If I'm paying hundreds of dollars for a "lifetime subscription", I don't expect constant updates, I expect that the application I paid for will continue to be usable as long as I continue to use it. That I won't have it deliberately and pointlessly disabled because it can no longer access some useless DRM server that had no good reason to exist in the first place. If you're not going to keep the server online, then at least provide an option to disable the DRM. Companies are deliberately disabling their apps not because they "can't afford to support them", because they clearly can. All of the heavy lifting was already done, any ongoing support is just the occasional bugfix and DLL tweak to stop the latest garbage Windows Update from breaking it. No, they're disabling their old apps because they want to sell their bit, bloated, latest-and-greatest, "you don't own anything" subscription services that do exactly the same thing, but don't do it nearly as well.

[@lars2k1]

It's just how they see the word 'lifetime'. The definition of a word should be whatever the dictionary says but we all know how these companies think about that. For you it was just the 'lifetime' of the company. I just wonder if there's courses that teach you how to screw people over because lots do it nowadays.

[@xkblxcripple]

Nexus Mods, did this and Mega (the cloud storage site/service) both had Lifetime membership for a hefty price. Didn't last more then 3 years.

[@rmsadriatic]

Thank you for making things easy for Clinton to appear on the camera.

[@rossmanngroup]

I love my clinton. After giving him his pill... I don't think he loves me.

[@nunyabidness674]

Not gonna lie, when I first saw the thumbnail, I was thinking a different Clinton and a different type of "pill"...

[@MrBluman999]

I have a black cat named Whiskey and hes starting to get old. Its so hard seeing them get old when theyre still just babies. I dont know what id do without him. Love your cats. They wont be here forever.

[@friendlyfire7861]

​@@rossmanngroupPut the pill in a little frozen ball of butter. Works for my cat! 🧈

[@EmeraldHill-vo1cs]

@@rossmanngroup Yeah my black cat wouldnt cop a pill, always found a way to get it out and hide it. So got a gell which she licked off her paw. Pancreatitis is common nowadays.

[@paulthetexan]

It reminds me of an old Gumby short where he went to a restaurant that advertised "All you can eat for a dollar" and when he got there, he got a small plate with barely anything on it. He said to the owner, "I thought it was supposed to be all-you-can-eat for a dollar!" and the owner replied, 'That *is* all you can eat for a dollar."

[@Genesys225]

I will happily donate, both money and time, great idea, chapo as usual.

[@rossmanngroup]

I don't want money for this, and I don't need any money for this. **WHAT I NEED IS YOUR TIME & WRITTEN CONTRIBUTIONS! as well as your help editing & refining what exists, and finding citations for what exists** All I ask is time, help me convert 1000+ videos to articles, help moderate, and above all: help make sure every company, and every product line, that does this shit into the future is put in the database so they can't escape their actions. not only do you help be a part of the change we want to see in the world; you solidify this channel as the least brand safe channel of all time :D Here's a start: wiki.rossmanngroup.com/index.php?title=HP_Instant_Ink Another start: wiki.rossmanngroup.com/index.php/Netflix It's just the beginning. **If you want to contribute, read the mission statement** wiki.rossmanngroup.com/index.php/Mission_statement **and how to help** wiki.rossmanngroup.com/index.php/How_to_help every video i do going forward, will have an article alongside it. can't believe i was making all my notes these years in scratch mousepad files as plaintext that i discarded after the video. ah well. hindsight is 20/20. **feel free to join & get started helping out before I make the final announcement in a video.** discord.com/channels/1324835844812443810/1324837249107361935

[@chitlitlah]

Hopefully I have the time and ability to contribute towards this. I've been waiting for this for years.

[@andyca15]

Can I suggest a tagline for the Consumer Action Taskforce: Our CAT will fuck up your DOGE

[@sir.cannabis1173]

Chapo?

[@KarlHamilton]

​@rossmanngroup maybe I'm an idiot, but how can I browse existing articles that people have made without searching for them?

[@sepulkariy]

Another word is "any". I bought "24 hours fitness" membership in 1997 for ANY club at ANY time. The moved and it turned out to access a new 24 hours club nearby I need to pay extra fee, because it was not included to "any". I cancelled my membership.

[@mikes-wv3em]

i remember that. the "tiers" scam. basic, plus, ultra once they started adding swimming pools.

[@justins21482]

You talking about planet fitness? They do the same thing or did around 2014. They don't like you using other gyms outside of the one you signed up at

[@makylemur7019]

More people have been robbed at the point of a corporation than at the point of a gun. Ralph Nader.

[@InPhillyWeTrust]

I salute Mr. Rossmann and look up to him very much. He is my actual real life hero.

[@StubbyPhillips]

Dude needs tights and a cape!

[@ScottE-2]

It is baffling how hard these companies are trying to dismantle the very importance of ownership even at their own self-destruction to chase down an extra $50 profit margin. Down to the point of even trying to dismiss the purchase, sale, or general exchange of currency for a product. I don't even know who to blame for this degree but I am glad that you and many others have been fighting back against this vile practice.

[@littletyke76]

This is unfortunately where the concept of MOARRRRR is to blame. There is very little good business practice with long term growth based on customer satisfaction, just MOARRR

[@TheGhostFart]

its the neverending chase of infinite growth

[@kirishima638]

Late stage capitalism

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@kirishima638 Yep, and a lot of people seem to believe that corporations are required to maximize short term profits. Corporations are not required to maximize profits whether short or long term, they are only required to aim to earn profits. The amount, is not required to be as large as possible, or so large that it risks endangering the continued existence of our species.

[@Tochinoki]

This is an American hero. The US needs more lole Louis.

[@newjerseydamo]

Corporations are Darth Vader, and us consumers are Lando Calrissian, "pray I don't alter the deal any further". They do it because they know they can. Hoping this really kicks off.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Duplicate comment.

[@sir.cannabis1173]

Love the labels 👹

[@gopnikolai7483]

​@@jannikheidemann3805 useless comment

[@MapleMan1984]

The soy eminating off this comment..

[@UNgineering]

So according to Sony, (section 10.1 line 2) the term "own" does not imply "ownership". Makes perfect sense, I mean nobody would think the word "health" implies "healthy", right?

[@EximiusDux]

It should have been: you own a copy of the software but not the trademark nor copyrights to the content (textures, models, story, characters, etc.).

[@Gnomleif]

Sony can redefine "Own" to "can be taken away at any given time because corporate reasons," but if I redefine "own" to "I'm going to find it by hoisting the jolly roger" it's "theft" and "copyright infringement," and I can potentially get into some serious trouble for it. Funny how that works.

[@ignoretheignorantgnaw]

So... by that definition, does that mean they don't "own" that IP, because they define own differently in the agreement? The one I agreed to in order to use their service? The day people find ways to exploit a TOS to their benefit is the day companies will suddenly start taking it seriously.

[@jackharpe3rd233]

Does the fact that Sony still manufactures physical media, along with this scenario happening make them a bunch of backstabbing hypocrites?

[@alis.2368]

​@@EximiusDuxI few days ago I re-read the software eula for my PS4 and to my shock I no longer have the right to use my console because I haven't updated the System Software as Sony invalidates the 'license to use' the System Software after then new update had come out. Like bro, I own a console I have the right to use whichever version of the OS I want. They only give me more reasons to jailbreak my PS5 (which has even more draconian rules baked into their EULA) and Dump all of my digital purchases as I want nothing to do with Sony for that exact behavior

[@MarkoVukovic0]

Thank you for doing the Wiki, Louis. This is wonderful stuff. And, thank you for having Mr. Clinton in the video, he's such a gooboy! Much love from South Africa.

[@lunarvvolf9606]

Nintendo did something similar with discontinuing the retro game store on the Wii so I can no longer download the classics I bought and paid for on that console. Its disgusting in practice to see stuff vaporized because companies are more important than consumers.

[@douglashoward-t8o]

It's theft through fraud.

[@TheSiriusEnigma]

That’s an excellent point. You cannot legally redefine the meaning of a word only for a contract. It’s an actual crime.

[@Zergdragon]

I love that pause after, in the same breath you read verbatim: "... -own... -ownership... -does not mean or imply any transfer of ownership..." Literally "you own it but our definition of the word is different unless we're talking about ourselves". I can't believe it's not a slam-dunk victory for anyone facing legal battles over this obviously-fraudulent ToS bullcrap.

[@thebevan]

Maybe 11 or 12 years ago, I remember a popular snack brand here in NZ ran a promotion where with every purchase you'd get a code, and if you got enough codes you'd get a free song download. And it literally just gave you an MP3 file you could download and play. Those were the good days

[@stephenw2992]

Now you would win the ability to stream a song on a dodgy website that they wouldnt renew the URL on a year later.

[@humbughumbughumbug]

​@@stephenw2992 or you'd be forced to subscribe at a price per month that's more expensive than what you paid for the snacks

[@redpheonix1000]

​@@stephenw2992And don't forget that you'd need to install their app first

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

TBH, it's easier to get DRM free music now than it was back then, there isn't much reason for them to tie the prize into a subscription unless the subscription service is the one that's providing the money to fund the promotion.

[@abrahamlincoln3181]

Steam had to add a notification that you don't actually own things you 'buy',because people rightly assume that buy means own.

[@kevinerbs2778]

Steam is ruining pc gaming.

[@Splarkszter]

They didn't "had to" they were forced by law. VALVE AREN'T THE GOOD GUYS. THEIR MONEY EMPIRE IS BASED ON CHILD GAMBLING.

[@discordantduck1808]

​@@kevinerbs2778it's not even bait he just threw the whole rod in

[@DOGRAPEZOOPHILE]

You might be insane, steam is the best platform for pc gaming.​@@kevinerbs2778

[@JonnyHorseman]

​@@kevinerbs2778You say that when the Epic Games Store, Ubisoft Connect, and the EA App exist

[@itodobien1396]

you rage in public how I do in private. I love it. I feel so defeated all the time. You know when you were young and dug a hole in the sand, but the sides just kept falling into the hole? That's how I feel it is now with corporate America.

[@SkellyTonn]

[Someone once said: "If buying doesn't mean owning, then piracy doesn't mean stealing!"☕😑]

[@S0me4ssh0le]

Even if buying was owning, piracy is still not stealing. Stealing is only possible if the entity stole from loses something. Piracy copies said something and doesn't steal it.

[@darrennew8211]

@@S0me4ssh0le Yes. It's not piracy. It's copyright violation.

[@KryzysX]

Who cares for copyright if the copyright makers are bunch of raipers?​@@darrennew8211

[@davidwhatever9041]

@@darrennew8211but in the American oligarchy buying is not owning, copyright violation is theft, rights are property rights that can be sold or taken with a contract, contracts can be changed at any time by corporations but not the despicable poor…. i.e. non billionaires

[@realcartoongirl]

its called borrowing

[@terig5584]

I go to the wiki, read through the instructions, then clicked on random article and got this sample: “Sauron was a prominent figure in the Second Age who gained significant attention for his role in a widespread ring distribution scheme that raised major consumer protection concerns. As the CEO and founder of Mordor Technologies, he was directly responsible for the development, marketing, and distribution of the Rings of Power product line, which became notorious for its deceptive terms of service and privacy violations.” It only gets more hilarious from there.

[@TheNefastor]

OK so it shouldn't be on the wiki but it's so funny we should keep it. Petition Louis to add a "humor" tag to the wiki ?

[@SarafinaSummers]

Ok, this is a fantastic way of explaining this to my husband who loves LOTR

[@matt_kelly]

When I was in the office today at lunch I was talking about why I don’t like technology, using examples like Samsung TVs taking screenshots, cars that sell their own telemetry data to insurance companies, etc. I think your site would be great to send to someone so I don’t have to memorize it all.

[@kellyc7c]

I got this email today too and was completely confused by the language. I thought I was missing something. Glad you're talking about this!

[@rossmanngroup]

wiki.rossmanngroup.com , pluralsight needs an article. You don't have to register to write or edit. Your edit will appear immediately. I decided to take the path of heavy and comprehensive moderation with a free-for-all in editing rather than having a bunch of barriers to contribute so that people can get the dopamine rush of seeing their editions in real time and feel like they have equal say and input in making this project happen.

[@kellyc7c]

@@rossmanngroup Thanks!

[@PX3U]

What I want is an extension that would pop up with a TLDR for the EULA/TOS/PP That I would be viewing. putting it simpily telling me i am not buying this product, that i wave my right to sue, that my data is being sold to third parties.

[@nhinja]

I am skeptical enough to realize a "lifetime" anything never means my lifetime. Also, if I can't download it and use it offline, I don't "own" it. Thank you for your help in making others aware and hopefully more people will stop supporting these companies!

[@nyanko8972]

This 100%. “Lifetime” apps that need Authentication from a server somewhere means it’s not lifetime because they could still turn off your access whenever they want.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It rarely makes any sense to. Most things won't still be useful in 60 or 70 years. Normally, a life time warranty is based on the useful expected life of the product, because increasing it beyond that tends to make for a much more expensive item than what most people would care to pay for. Especially, when they may not still be interested in it after so many years, or there may be a better option. That being said, if it is longer than the expected useful life of the product, you do have a bunch of people getting rid of it before the lifetime of the owner, which does counteract that a bit.

[@TeamJackassTV]

PLEASE NEVER STOP DOING WHAT YOU DO! You are helping making this country and world a better place.

[@rossmanngroup]

be honest & tell me if you thought this was an actual pluralsight sponsor video & were about to hit unsubscribe

[@djstubed]

I just realized I never actually subscribed to you after all these years. I guess that's what happens when you don't remind the user to subscribe every video! And I just clicked on this video because my company used Pluralsight for a few years for training content.

[@faintyama1652]

I was just paying attention to the kitty and then found this comment, didn't even read the title lol

[@siaal5001]

I mean, I was going to hear you out - you've earned that much

[@TheOriginalEUrban]

Nah, I knew this was going to be another "How You're Getting Fukt" episode.

[@Doc4]

Nope, I got "scammed" by a pluralsight bundle from humble, who also didn't adequately disclose the time-limited nature of my $25 purchase. ___ em. Had to spend several days quickly cobbling together a stream extractor that wouldn't set off security 🤭

[@Nostalgia_Realm]

I love this! I hope people will contribute to this in a meaningful way. We will all be grateful 🙏 I am currently working on translating open source Linux projects and that's already taking up a bunch of free time 🤓

[@davidwhatever9041]

if you refuse this change to the tos, it seems to me that pluralsight need to buy you out if the liability with a full or pro rated refund. if everyone pursues this it could become a administrative and logistical nightmare for the business. to take this to the next level, a panel of lawyers providing a step by step guide as to how to handle refusing the new tos and perusing a refund in the most disruptive way possible would be very helpful. it raises interesting questions upon when new TOS become binding and beyond refusal, the instant new tos is published on a website, the instant you receive or read the email, as soon as you become aware of the change.

[@nancienordwick4169]

The fine print of contracts where no negotiation is possible is not legally valid based on contract law. Unfortunately, the remedy is to end the agreement. Then one must sue if they want made whole and companies usually win out of sheer power to manipulate the process.

[@dalesplitstone6276]

This lifetime garbage is nothing new. Decades ago my father purchased a battery from Wards that had a lifetime warranty. It died after six months, so he took it in for warranty replacement. He was told that they would not replace the product because it was warranted for the lifetime of the product line, and that particular product was no longer being manufactured.

[@Pesthuf]

Good luck with the wiki. "Lifetime" now meaning "Cancelled whenever we feel like it, no refunds" is fucking disgusting.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Yes, IMHO, the only time they should be allowed to outright cancel a lifetime subscription is if there were violations of the terms by the customer or the company literally goes bankrupt and people they owe money to get the rights to the service. The actual issue tends to be that they under charge for the life time licenses and sell too many of them. You need a certain amount of cashflow in order to continue to provide the lifetime license, and if they didn't charge enough collectively for the life time license to be paid for by interest or investing income, then it's eventually going to lead to problems.

[@fredfred2363]

Here in the UK 🇬🇧 we have some of the best consumer protection anywhere in the world. There are three levels: statutory sales description and price, product statutory reliability/function and guarantee, and lastly the older EU laws that are still in place covering expectations of a product and product lifetime. It's one of the reasons why European based products are such high quality. So many Western countries still,do not have basic rights in place, which is shocking (to me as a brit). But perhaps that's why there are so many lawyers...

[@dp0456]

In germany, that practice is actually illegal. But land of the free is something different. Hope you can get your right. That sucks so much.

[@martinfiedler4317]

Germany, like many European nations, still has a modicum of actual consumer protection. You guys should be on the watch that this does not change for the worse!

[@CookieCraftMedia]

A lot of things are illegal in Germany, yet they keep happening regardless

[@pilezzero969]

Thanks for shareing the kitty pill segment, I know how hard it is to do, the frustration, and the love needed to help keep your cat going.

[@zaw00]

I'm a simple man. Man see Clinton, man click video. Always happy to see the kitty again.

[@joncitizen8060]

I've wanted a central point of consumer feedback and discussion for several years now so I absolutely support the idea and will look for ways I can contribute. Nobody would be more suited to run this than Mr. Rossmann!! I can see this really catching on and becoming widely used and I can smell the fresh lawsuits in the air. Bring it on, Love it!

[@SJSharkByte]

New year, same based af Rossmann. You're the best

[@OnRayz]

I'm just realizing that this is the website I asked for in the KZbin comments a few months ago. Louis, you are the GOAT.

[@tanatadkasemsan383]

I always agree & support with Louis idea about right to repair & these purchasing stuffs anyway. So I just here to see Clinton on Camera!!

[@EximiusDux]

Stuff doesn't have an extra plural form as it already refers to multiple things.

[@AliBubba.]

The only way thus changes is if consumers stop using these products. That's literally the only way. Consumer protection agencies are gone and are not coming back.... if the last few years have taught you anything, that should have been that literally every last governmental agency and politician is bought and paid for... there's no help coming for you, you and the people around you are your only help and strength. To the best of your abilities, Stop buying their products. Thanks for your service, Louis, you're a true warrior.

[@stevenford4719]

Hay Louis I think you have come up with a extremely good idea. That is backed up with a plan to get a solution to this issue now the next thing that it’s going to be depending on is how many people become aware of this and get involved by adding content about companies that deserve to be put on this list. Plus how many people use the list will also depend upon how hard or easy it is to check ,if the company that they are about to buy from is on there and why they are. I myself will be saving the Link so that even though I am in Australia, I can add to the list and help make this an international consumer aid

[@jannikheidemann3805]

The USA treat Australia like a colony anyways oftentimes.

[@MrLudoChrist]

Been following you since I lived in NYC myself and was in college. You will always be appreciated by your viewer base tremendously.

[@charlestwoo]

The pirating era is gonna be making a full comeback.

[@moonasha]

it never went away. I personally stopped pirating games because the indie games I want are cheap, and the AAA slop is so bad I wouldn't even play it for free

[@Stormer-vx5kw]

it already has

[@-biki-]

yarr harrrrr fiddle-dee-dee!

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Pirate parties too? Is there an American Pirate Party?

[@etuanno]

​@@moonashaFor me it's usually: Pirate the game as a tryout, if I like it, I buy it properly. Especially indie games.

[@ericgoldman7533]

My sister has a older cat with asthma (or something similar), so they have to give him an inhaler routinely. She told me once how she acclimated him to it, but I forget the specifics. Needless to say, it was a process that took some time, but as a result of her efforts, he is very cooperative whenever they have to medicate him. Good thing, too, because he's practically a mini panther and could easily cause some very nasty damage if he wanted.

[@KaceyGreen]

I got that email, they could have maintained that and just not added more stuff. Or kept the handful of these accounts in on the Pluralsight platform and earned themselves a fleet of truckloads of goodwill.

[@ericslavich4297]

I look forward to using the wiki to help guide purchase decisions. One thing, though... calling out bad companies helps, but I often get the hopeless feeling they are all bad, so why bother even trying. If there was a way to note companies that do NOT engage in whatever evil practice is under discussion, that would help a lot. Red flags AND green flags. Of course, companies change practices, so any information about them would have to be as of a certain date, and, as time goes on it would be great to revisit each article periodically and see if updates are needed.

[@justforyoutube-qv6wk]

Just make sure people don't misuse the wiki. Some nutjob might try to sabotage stuff if some important stuff stays anonymous. Love the concept and the effort it took you to make this.

[@Indieboy111]

Just wanted to say thank you for everything you do against these evil corps. Anytime I have spare I’ll be sure to contribute to the wiki! I’d be happy to register to if this means there can be audit trails for what is edited by who.

[@MiseRaen]

15:05 Consumer Action Taskforce Segment

[@AC3handle]

We are all relating very much to Mr Clinton. Having to be forced to take these bitter pill. I'm sure at some point, these companies will use the term, "for your OWN good"

[@Polopala420]

Thanks for taking good care of Clinton, he sure can be happy to have a loving and caring home with you

[@saesenthellis]

It's so good to hear Clinton talk again! I'd like to ask a question, coming from an European, does the Consumer Wiki only or foremost apply to company failures to protect consumers based in the USA or can we add cases from our own countries? To add awareness for consumers all over the globe. As always, thank you for taking a bullet for us and I hope Mr. Clinton gets well soon! Edit: Spelling

[@IamKryptonite]

We really need the LG sponsorship back, that one had me laughing every time😂

[@I9250]

I love the idea of wiki as you described as i have been toying around with something very similar for close to 2 decades, but other projects and responsibilities kept getting in the way. One thing id like to suggest is that instead of simply naming the companies/corporations behind the deeds, to actually try to source if possible the specific individuals that are responsible so that their later career paths may be followed to build up a history of their shenanigans. i think one of the most negatively impactful aspects of corportalism is that the individuals that are causing al the damage get to hide behind the obfuscation of the company name

[@mccflo99]

Thank you for your dedication to fighting these unscrupulous, scumbag companies.

[@FromTheAshesWeRise]

Awe man, that was a perfectly timed Meow. Godspeed CAT

[@Toneychaplin]

The fact its name CAT is honestly such a nice touch. I’ll be joining the discord and looking into contributing to the site. I hope that we are able to keep it going for future generations 👍. Can’t let these companies off Scott free.

[@StoneThrower04]

Remember that Louis Rossman is of Sound Mind and is not Suicidal.

[@TheMonkenstien]

Hi Louis thanks for all the hard work you do exposing these bloodsuckers. I have had many experiences with companies stealing and scamming my hard earned money. It seems to be the the mainstream business model these days. Very depressing

[@theflyingspaget]

When the goal is infinite expansion but the population is finite, they gotta do what they gotta do.

[@torstensteinert776]

Some Appeals-Court (I forgot which state it was) even redefined the term "boneless" to now mean it can contain bones. Redefining terms seem to be the sign of the times

[@NoEgg4u]

@3:13 "Please chat with us." Louis, I will lay odds that you will not be able to chat with anyone. And if you manage to reach someone, it will be a herculean effort to reach them. And whoever you reach will be getting paid $10 a day, have no authority, and will read from a script and shine you on (not that person's fault, as they have no choice if they want to keep their job). @3:39 "... the Pluralsight team." Some executive wrote that legal mumbo-jumbo, and then refuses to sign his / her name. They love to shovel out BS, and hide behind an anonymous sign-off. So we have no clue who wrote that message.

[@BrianHG.Ocean.Fitness]

Hey Louis, the website is only the minor part, make sure you create a universal web-browser extension and mobile app for everyone so that whenever we go to purchase or sign up for anything anywhere online, your web-browser extension will scan your 'roofie' database and bring up a pop-up warning you of all the BS you are about to enter. Having a senator install your app on their phone and from that day forth, anything they try to purchase, they will see your low-down for that product. This would bring in mass attention. This, I would either pay for or donate to...

[@BrianHG.Ocean.Fitness]

Don't forget in the app to remember what the user has purchased and to occasionally scan your website for the update file to warn the user of contract changes on any of the products the user has purchased in the past.

[@BrianHG.Ocean.Fitness]

Project added to Rossmann Wiki...

[@SkidrowTheThird]

Thanks for the video, i know the point of it wasn't "how to pill your cat" but i learned something from this video which might make the process less stressful for the cat and me, both.

[@attribute-4677]

I’d love to see a “Rossmann Reliability Index” for how often your shops see a particular failed electronic. Not sure if there’s enough data, but if I can look up a particular laptop or specific SSD model and see that the SSD has been seen as dead 134 times or something. I dunno :/ Either way, THANK YOU for what you do!!

[@ransombot]

21 pages to find out you don't own something.. I'm dyslexic is there an ADA friendly version of that contract that doesn't FUBAR my eyes and force me to take a legal course to know I don't own something? Lifetime has definitions under the law what's the point with legal defined terms if you can make them up if you go along?

[@etuanno]

Shouldn't the law be above terms of service? So if they redefine a term used in law, the one from the law still counts regardless.

[@integerofdoom69]

Came for the cat. Stayed for the rant.

[@itsLK.]

Louis finally got sponsored

[@andygozzo72]

according to a quick search, 'compulsory arbitration' less than value of £5000 is not allowed against a consumer in the UK...

[@DiamondCake2]

Arbitration was originally intended to save big companies money when suing each other (lawyer fees), not to fuck over your own customers.

[@festro1000]

I hate license agreements, if it just covered the basics things like buying a product doesn't give you ownership over IP I could understand, but pages dedicated to "legally" screwing over customers and butchering the English language just because you want to use more appealing words is a good part of why I hate the "justice" system.

[@walrusdestruction6845]

It is assumed by any court (in the US) that when you sign and agree to a contract/ToS it is automatically implied that you read, understand, and agree to those documents.

[@LeniBats]

If buying isn't owning, then I refrain from buying. It's that simple. I've gotten tired of subscriptions for everything as well.

[@20windfisch11]

This is the better option than to sail the seven seas. While I find that morally acceptable in that case, simply ignoring the offer* hurts them much more. Flying the Jolly Roger and shouting “Arr” gives them one to blame and potential to buy new laws that limit our freedom even more. * I don’t call it product but offer, because we are not the customers. In fact, oftentimes they are rightfully referring to us as consumers. This is a fine detail to consider. The product is the company shares or the money it makes in general, and the customers are the “enablers” of the offer, i.e. the shareholders. The thing that is “sold” or rented out and the ones who accept the offer are part of the production process, with the goal of extracting money from them. Think of the consumer as a cow and the offer as the meadow it is put on.

[@etuanno]

If buying isn't owning then sharing isn't stealing. Because you can't steal something you can't own. Stealing is the act of involuntary transfer of ownership. Quite simple.

[@theflyingspaget]

​@@20windfisch11they're going to do it anyway but I see what you're getting at, it's better not to give them the attention. For software, open source alternatives usually exist (libre office my beloved) and for media, why bother?

[@LFPGaming]

skip to 15:19 for the important stuff

[@ECThurn]

for every company that gets added to his wiki, he gets added to that company's hit list

[@EatingMachine23]

Bring it on

[@ericw.6107]

For what it's worth, you did a great job giving Clinton his remedies; I have to do the same with my puppy!

[@logiclust]

my cat just passed away. she was 17 and i hope we gave her a good home. you are missed Oni

[@michaelschmid2311]

R.i.p Im Sure she ist in Cat Heaven, able to steal unlimited sausages from the Butcher. 🥰

[@demonvictim]

Rip man hope the cat felt your love and enjoyed its life

[@oregonvibez]

❤😢❤❤

[@MattyEngland]

RIP Oni. 🙏🙏

[@Rhythmattica]

Sending Hugs,

[@ImCertified]

I literally was thinking, "Someone should make some sort of wiki to point out companies that do this", and the video showed that the dream came true.

[@bluefoxtv1566]

How is this not false advertising?

[@discordantduck1808]

EULA roofies as always, nothing is going to change so long as politicians can earn money from stocks. good luck changing that though

[@sir.cannabis1173]

Not illegal to lie. When you got f u money 😷 it's easy to try garbage ideas and sway people into a box

[@TheDeveloperGuy]

@discordantduck1808redefining the meaning of words should be nullified in eulas and every other contract. You can’t just say “but we mean the total opposite” in fine print.

[@FractalPrism.]

they changed the meaning of "false" in the eula to mean "its not illegal when we do it"

[@freeman37]

#scamming

[@DreadPirateDuo]

Funny thing is that I don't remember ever agreeing to any Pluralsight agreement when I purchased my ACG "lifetime" classes. The ACG agreement that I agreed to did not have any clause like this. I'll never use Pluralsight and will encourage others to avoid them as well.

[@trk20.]

[preface: canadian] I'm pretty sure that, at least for canadian consumers, this is straight up illegal and people affected can (and probably should) seek compensation + report these companies with whichever provincial authority (eg Consumer Protection Ontario) plus the Office of Consumer Affairs (federal). There's a decent precedent for this kind of BS not flying in canada - eg. Competition Bureau going after Rogers for "unlimited" data that wasn't unlimited. Not sure about the US - hopefully there's decent recourse for the people affected and pluralsight gets screwed.

[@midnightanimal708]

Dunno if it's the same in America, but here in Germany my parents had bought me a calculator from Texas Instruments with the full package including a "lifetime" license to the computer software, ffw to 2023 and the lifetime license turned into a temporary license

[@JeshuaWithAnE]

As someone who has to give a cat medicine every other day that they don’t like, this is the exact experience every time, down to dropping the syringe.

[@theflyingspaget]

My cat was a strange one, had him on antibiotics for a week and he got into the routine of coming to me for it. Gave him plain water from the dropper for about a week after that when he gave up.

[@JeshuaWithAnE]

@ Omg, amazing, I wish my cats were like that. Our lives would be much easier.

[@matthewperlman3356]

I definitely like the idea. I would like to recommend that you do this in a way that it is cross-searchable, similar to an old-fashioned database, or possibly some kind of modern search engine. But to be able to put in a name, company, product, something of the sort, and come back with related details relevant to the aim of the site.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

You mean a searchable hypertext?

[@Mocktailmetal]

Its time for the return of Jack Sparrow, Black beard, and all kinds of pirates in a world of digital!

[@ColinWatters]

I think in the UK this would be considered an unfair contract. I would investigate if that entitles you to a refund.

[@Mocktailmetal]

'END USER LICENSE AGREEMENT', bro evn if you get lawyer and read. It doesn't matter, unless you click 'I agree' you ain't able to use the software or whatever that digital stuff is!

[@nospamevereh]

ULA roofie is like coffee for you! I think one other thing you need is an LR testimonial or stamp of approval like the king of England has. It would state something like that it meets your reparability and non-roofieness (english words as described in the oxford dictionary)

[@RoamingOdin0778]

Consumer protection used to mean protecting the consumer. Now it means protecting ourselves from the consumer... by redefining words and being the arbitrary interpreter of our own jargon.

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Just wait until they redefine what firemen do.

[@JoeKyser]

You are so right about watch out for the advertising on here. It's like all scammy

[@Duckly97]

I'm deathly allergic to the term "software-as-a-service"

[@stefanmadethen5359]

more like license-as-a-service

[@jimdelsol1941]

I'm very happy to see the wiki, the browser extension is a FANTASTIC IDEA that I didn't have. I wanted to do a website similar to this for a long time, where you could search for a particular product you wanted, and get informed about everything you talk about, but also add people's review of the product, and so on, but never took the time to do it. Maybe the wiki will developp into that as well one day, if not, maybe i'll still make a website like so that uses your wiki as a source if that's okay with you ? I think a proper website might have some use still, if not only for the user interface that could be a little bit friendlier than a wiki.

[@roycsinclair]

Trying to redefine words in the license agreement is criminal EVIDENCE of FALSE ADVERTISING and should be prosecutable by any District Attorney in the U.S. so I open the challenge to any ambitious D.A. to put and end to this company's false advertising.

[@xenxander]

not if you sign the new EULA that says you can't, and outlines the 'new deal'. Because you have to say 'yes' to continue to use it and it's all in the updated EULA.

[@roycsinclair]

@@xenxander Did you READ what you replied to? Because your reply seem to excuse the problem, address it.

[@xenxander]

@ i'm saying this is the 'current law'.. any new EULA trumps the old one. always.

[@roycsinclair]

@@xenxander And again you prove you failed to see the point. The point is that it is a CRIMINAL ACT that should be prosecuted. When you put words on the package then hide "new" definitions for those words in the license it means the words on your package do NOT mean what they say. That's the essence of false advertising.

[@xenxander]

@@roycsinclair but you missed that it isn't criminal to do that. based on how the law is written. So they are safe till things change.

[@alopexlagopus1488]

Even though I'm not in the USA, this is important for the world, as whatever legislation protects US citizens gets similar emulation around the world. I wish I had the spare cash to support you, but I'm currrently being shafted by corporate greed where I am. Regardless, obligatory Clinton section is a lovely bonus. Edit: A little time I can give, so Im headiing for the How_To_Help.

[@alexv3780]

They are talking about the lifetime of their products, probably shorted lived products. They are seeing the wording for TOS from a different angle (arbitary, wrong angle) and that's a problem! A big problem!!

[@jannikheidemann3805]

Invalid use of the word if the lifetime applies to a lifeless product.

[@OttoDeCalumnias]

Cats are incredible companions. It took eons for both species to form a symbiosis, and it is a strong one. If you ever fell in love with your kitty (generally mutual) and had it dying on you, you will cry.

[@marksmith2913]

It's long overdue for governments to step up to the plate and put meaningful regulations in place to protect the very people who voted them into office from these seedy business practices.

[@DerekPeldo]

Excited for the wiki! You should change the youtube link to a button and have a copy of the video available via button click next to it just in case youtube pulls the video.

[@pedroserapio8075]

Taking the red pill, to keep the cat real!

[@venomchris5818]

Thank you so much Louis for helping the people have a voice.