Roth-Steyr 1907 at the Backup Gun Match

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Posting a couple videos on interesting versions of the Roth-Steyr pistols recently made me think about just how nice of a pistol the 1907 is to shoot, So, I figured I'd bring it out to the monthly Backup Gun Match. Alas, I had ammo from two different lots, one of which would not reliably cycle the gun. This led to a lot of malfunction clearing and a pretty dismal score...
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[@hoilst265]

All those jams are because Ian can no longer obtain the whale oil required to lube this thing.

[@jmace5964]

Till next week when he buys a forgotten whaler and heads to sea

[@Eralen00]

they don't harvest sperm whale oil like they use 'ta

[@atreidesbattlepug7544]

He can just order some from Japan

[@jmace5964]

Bust out the greener

[@donjones4719]

Inherited a 100 year old pocket watch that probably hadn't run in 80 years. Didn't expect it to run, but while moving it around to polish it - damn, that thing started ticking. Wound it up, it ran fine. At that age it did need to be cleaned, though. The watchmaker told me it ran because the original whale oil was still there, and it doesn't degrade no matter how old it gets. Unfortunately the movement did need to be cleaned, and now I have regular modern oil. I don't want to nuke any whales for the oil, but I am amazed at what Mother Nature could accomplish that our tech cannot.

[@immaleaf4964]

"Hey, check out my gun throwing up!" *applause*

[@funkla65]

Like a sea cucumber.

[@webtoedman]

@@funkla65 Ejects its entrails when startled?

[@scullystie4389]

The aristocrats!

[@theblackbaron4119]

@@scullystie4389 Oh no D:

[@bintjbeil7892]

@@funkla65 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@msngrpat]

"Just throw the gun at the target" *Ian visibly horrified*

[@draiden889]

@@thecommissaruk that sounded like karl

[@coobk]

this isnt a hi point

[@Sube-Tube]

Ian shooting extremely old guns in shooting competitions is one of my favorite KZbin series

[@RalphReagan]

You said it!

[@natedunn51]

It's amazing how well some do and others not

[@dgundeadforge17]

My first ever 3 gun i used my sks my 870 and my familymembers hand gun. My state had a ban on the fun rifles and the other guys had mag fed ars, but i actially did better at the rifle part. I was just practiced with iron sights.

[@Anonymous8421]

We used to have a whole channel dedicated to Ian doing this, InrangeTV. But it's different now.

[@jakethadley]

When he started stages with the Hotchkiss SMG folded up 🤣

[@isacc8324]

I love how he’s just casually using a gun that is older than my grandfather

[@ArsonFire00]

It's 114 years old. Which makes it older than everyone's grandfather.

[@ArsonFire00]

@@dominantasmr578 You have great grandparents 114 years old, and older?!

[@josiahgibson6373]

@@ArsonFire00 My grandfather was born in 1903. And I'm only 31. Edit: In case you're wondering, he got married relatively late in life, and I'm the youngest son of his youngest son.

[@kiwibob223]

It's exactly the same age as my nanna would be if she were alive.

[@Nordy941]

Older than my grandfathers dad

[@LawkzBro]

Ian is the kind of guy that can only get one of two reactions when he arrives, it's either "sheesh, not this guy again" or "yay! it's this guy again!"

[@michelguevara151]

and the odd dude asking for his weapons to be blessed..

[@ssneg]

Sometimes both!

[@asherhockersmith8271]

Anyone who has any semblance of sense is excited to see what Ian brought to the range.

[@ScottKenny1978]

My running assumption is that when Ian shows up at a match, the two questions he gets are "what weirdness are you bringing today, and where the hell did you get ammo for it"

[@asherhockersmith8271]

@@ScottKenny1978 Hello, I'm IanMccolum, and welcome back to another episode of "How the Hell did He Get His Hands on This?!"

[@bburchellphotos]

Loving how Ian starts the match with a good old 'Gordon Freeman with a crowbar' pose

[@JohnADoe-pg1qk]

Would be nice if they have to clean up a bit with the crowbar at the beginning of the stage.

[@Taolan8472]

The crowbar is the approximate length and weight of commpn carbines, so it is a prop to represent your "primary" weapon for the bug match.

[@CircaSriYak]

Also notice how the gun sounds literally exactly like the pistol in Half Life 2

[@E5rael]

Now that you mention it, it does kinda sound like the HL2 pistol!

[@jamesfisher9594]

As it should be.

[@Irondrone4]

The casual shooter: custom magazine wells for rapid reloading Ian: stripper clips

[@carriertaiyo2694]

And he still doesn't lose.

[@samastle7052]

The follower on those stripper clips is the coolest damn thing I’ve ever seen.

[@johnqpublic2718]

His thumb?

[@Damien_N]

@@johnqpublic2718 there’s an accelerator on the stripper clip to assist with loading

[@verycreativ233]

@@johnqpublic2718 Im sure he means the sheetmetal piece you push on to load wich seems to help quite alot compared to C96 or steyer-hahn M1912 clips

[@LN997-i8x]

@@verycreativ233 I've shot my M1912 at a match or two, and the clips for those are quicker than you'd think, but definitely not as slick as these. I'm contemplating 3D printing a follower for mine...

[@johnkelinske1449]

@@verycreativ233 The thumb piece helps a lot. While it is possible to load the pistol without the chargers, it is not something you want to do if it can be avoided, especially in a hurry.

[@zendell37]

I love how he has to manually cycle every time and still isn't dead last.

[@dcurry7287]

Imagine finishing worse than the guy with a bolt-action pistol 😂

[@den2k885]

Probably someone tried to use an S333

[@009013M3]

At least it isn't a Taurus Judge.

[@foxmcld584]

Ian accidentally switched his gun over to 'Welrod Mode' for the later stages. Hand-cycling pistols increase the difficulty, should've been worth a higher score. :P

[@theofficialsikris]

Lmao, *bolt action pistol.*

[@foxmcld584]

@@theofficialsikris Oh god just imagine if Ian showed up to a backup gun match with an Obrez. "What? It's a backup gun. Just an unusual caliber!"

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@foxmcld584 Lee Enfield trench pistol!

[@Helltanz98]

othias would totally want a suppressed Roth Steyr

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

I love how even with all the issues he still didn't come last. Those other people must be really embarrassed, or they were using flint locks.

[@ameritus9041]

I really hope someone runs it with a caps lock revolver.

[@historynerd2373]

@@ameritus9041 REVOLVER

[@ameritus9041]

@@historynerd2373 no need to yell lol

[@historynerd2373]

@@ameritus9041 caps lock revolver

[@ameritus9041]

@@historynerd2373 lol I'm ashamed I just now got that...

[@winkywank2650]

Last metal target : "Aaaargh, I've been shot....I'm dying, it's no good, I'm through!" Target dramatically falls, slowly, to the ground. Dead.

[@donjones4719]

I don't know why Ian was shooting the child hostages. Maybe that's why he scored so low. ;)

[@lewisirwin5363]

@@donjones4719 My guess is he'd recently seen Men in Black, so wasn't taking any chances.

[@specialagentdustyponcho1065]

If not for the garbo ammo, the gun is actually fairly quick, even loading from the stripper clips.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Yeah, if you think about it its the same number of movements as a box, just instead of dropping the box you pull out the stripperclip.

[@ketchman8299]

My wife wondered why I was chuckling so I showed her the video. She is not a big gun person but got a kick out of Ian using a 114 year old pistol, the use of actual "clips" and the volcanic unload. Oh, and the fact Ian was not dead last. THIS is why I love this channel.

[@mephistovsfaust9883]

I know you said "Get down, Archduke!", but my mind heard "Get down, R2!"

[@ameritus9041]

Glad I'm not the only one.

[@509Gman]

I thought he said “get down, they’re shooting”

[@vega1287]

3:54 "that's what knives are for ian!"

[@PobortzaPl]

Was it Karl's voice?

[@BrianKern2121]

Sounded like Matt Haught, who has been on Forgotten Weapons, and Inrange.

[@M.M.83-U]

Sabre, it was a cavalry pistol.

[@TruthNerds]

I hope Ian never brings a weird old gun to a knife fight…

[@goncalomatos871]

On today's video: "A backup gun that is in no way a backup gun"

[@davidbrennan660]

Them foam darts are sure troublesome.

[@genericpersonx333]

Only...it was a backup gun for the Habsburg imperial cavalrymen carrying it because the pistols were considered secondary weapons to the sword and/or lance still. Funny that.

[@Taolan8472]

Well no, with the detachable stock and a bandolier of clips, this is easily a primary weapon for a cavalry or artillery officer.

[@genericpersonx333]

​@@Taolan8472 If you were a cavalry officer, your training and tradition saw pistols as a circumstantial tool mostly for those times when you really wanted an enemy to die faster than you could close with your melee weapon. Maybe you see an ally about to be stabbed in the back over 30 feet away, so that is when you pull your pistol and shoot. Otherwise, you are expected to literally cut down your foes because that is the civilized thing to do. Thus, while cavalry alone saw pistols as offensive weapons, they were still seen as secondary to sword, lance, and/or carbine depending on the type of cavalry one was.

[@OlrikMeister]

That has to be the definition of a neat and quirky gun. Internal mag that loads with stripperclips, visable double action striker and a fun way to unload.

[@johnkelinske1449]

High $ one too nowadays.

[@calderniven8110]

Granted, though the most fun way to unload is usually with the trigger. :D

[@rodrigodepierola]

"Eschew obfuscation" is the T-shirt we didn't know we needed

[@Knuck_Knucks]

I'm a dunce. I had to look up both words. I get it now!

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

@@Knuck_Knucks "Stop lieing" in gancy words basically.

[@CanalTremocos]

I love the contradiction of demanding clarity with the least clear choice of words possible.

[@recoilrob324]

@@CanalTremocos Yes...kind of like...."Help stamp out, eliminate and abolish redundancy". It's a shame how many newly minted High School graduates (and college for that matter) that don't get the joke.

[@andersjjensen]

@@recoilrob324 Bwaaahahah! I'm stealing that fuck out of that one!

[@ryanc629]

That's the first I've ever heard someone say they have a loaded "clip" in their pocket and then pull an actual clip out of their pocket lol.

[@alexandruianu8432]

Damn shame the ammo messed up your stages.

[@mohammadnibb1623]

@@gsxrjeff i would throw myself at the target instead of the gun

[@john-paulsilke893]

It’s better that ammo is underpowered then over powered. Don’t want to break guns. I’m guessing they load it to barely work on a variety of guns, but unfortunately Ian’s has better springs and needs more uuumph.

[@claytonhollowell4488]

@@john-paulsilke893 Not positive, but I the only gun I know that takes 8mm Steyr is the Roth-Steyr pistols.

[@alexandruianu8432]

@@john-paulsilke893 There's literally no other gun that takes 8mm Steyr. The locking system on this gun is overbuilt. Downloading the ammo is just a stupid idea.

[@donjones4719]

Far be it from me to criticize Ian, but since so many gun malfunctions are mainly ammo malfunctions - should't you open and test rounds from a new box of ammo a few days *before* starting a match?

[@wmoule]

It's a damn shame about the ammo, the gun was running sweet as a nut with the first batch.

[@Taolan8472]

From the looks of the table he could have made top ten at that match with better ammo.

[@miketeeveedub5779]

Gun & Ammo shop: "Oh oh - here comes Ian." Ian enters store: "Hi guys - got any 8mm Steyr?" Gun & Ammo shop: facepalm - "Never fails..."

[@txgunguy2766]

I'm just waiting for the day he walks in and asks for Volcanic Fireball ammunition. Or .44 Henry Rimfire.

[@1337penguinman]

You know you live in the same town as Ian when your local gun shops keep 8mm Lebel on the shelf.

[@chrisproctor123]

"Got any 11mm Werndl?" "Sure, just let me hop in my time machine"

[@joshuaspicer8454]

Always great to see the oldies get some range time!!

[@jgibbjr]

"Eschew Obfuscation"! 😂😂 Extra points for that Bronco II

[@DualDesertEagle]

"Match barricade. Don't shoot." *Has a bunch of bullet holes through it*

[@mostlyharmless7154]

It’s coming right for us

[@weswolever7477]

If Ian ever does a backup match with a Colt walker, he needs to hold a sign that says “endeavor to persevere”

[@jc5445]

I got a piece of hard rock candy, but it’s not for eating. It’s just for lookin through.

[@marblecountertops3098]

That first round was a beauty, shame about the malfunctions later

[@ScottRuggels]

I’ve always wanted one of those. I got to shoot a Steyr Hahn, and liked it. As to the Fiocchi ammo, save the brass and reload, then beg Steinel to make fresh stuff.

[@apileofrocks5142]

That emptying of the rounds from the top got a genuine guffaw out of me haha

[@Csmith79]

That's what the old decaying surplus ammo is good for. Overpressure will guarantee that the gun cycles at least once

[@IrishTechnicalThinker]

The reloading feed in that pistol is so lovely. Very satisfying to observe.

[@mikewerden4056]

Loved your interview with Seb Gorka on Rumble. Get him in a backup gun match drawing from his EDC ankle holster.

[@sirdovermeyer]

Always super fun and cool to see you shoot these old unique Firearms

[@Temp0raryName]

The best thing about this video is that it shows Ian's strength of character. Has a disastrous day's shooting. Doesn't just bin the footage. Instead publishes it, warts and all, with a dispassionate analysis of the flaw. Bravo!

[@zabalramadhan7576]

bring an old weapon into range shooting competitions is actually bizzare and educational at the same time. as you know how well this gun can handle a various challenge on shooting range

[@jackl.9074]

These are some of my favorite videos, seeing just how well (or not) these forgotten weapons run.

[@wmlukepriest8012]

Thanks for sharing Ian. Love watching you strut your stuff with these classic guns!

[@DiecastDreamCustoms]

'Just throw the gun at it!' -My sentiments, exactly! These videos are EXCELLENT, Ian! I've learned SO much from catching up on these. Thank you for the education. -Vic

[@MyChrisable]

I absolutely love this type of videos! It's like taking 5 after a cool class of gun history. I hope he gets the good ammo soon!

[@HereticalKitsune]

Nice unload!

[@cooperdaniels9005]

Eschew means to avoid. Obfuscation is a funny-looking word that means confusion. The phrase “eschew obfuscation” is an ironic expression that writers and grammar geeks use to explain the need for clear writing.

[@ineednochannelyoutube5384]

Obfuscationeans to hide somethimg, or intentionally complicate it. Eschew means ro do away with, stop using. I mean it can mean stop being hard to read whilst being hard to read.

[@davidgillon2762]

I read it as "ignore the distraction", which is clever.

[@davidgillon2762]

It does mean write clearly, but obfuscation means confusing with intent, so it's telling you not to sacrifice clarity by trying to be clever.

[@richwhitaker1506]

Enjoyed the video. You went way back in time to choose your "back-up" only to run into logistics issues. A sign of the times? Hope you will try this again.

[@thelaughinghyenas8465]

Thanks Ian - I really enjoy your videos and have for many years.

[@bebop_557]

Me: "Is that Matt Haught who I heard in the background?" *60 seconds later* Matt Haught: /moseying around in the background of the frame

[@Taolan8472]

He would be the one to shout "thats what knives are for, Ian!"

[@BillyONeal]

Love these BUG match things: funky guns, practical stages, simple scoring system, jovial RO. Thanks!

[@EmperorHirohito-kv2uc]

Respect to Ian for using the guns he likes

[@kurtbertling2511]

I cannot wait to see Pt. 2... I truly feel I needs to have a rematch. Thank you for sharing

[@mrtlsimon]

I thought these looked cool from the minute I saw them in an article about surplus guns as a child. Thanks for running it in competition and posting it. It's cooler now because I got to see it run.

[@lufe556]

It is always impressive to see Ian using an old firearm with a novel action and mechanism in a modern competition, and still competently shoot in less than ideal operating conditions!

[@RichardGoth]

Franz-Joseph thanks you for your service!

[@blank557]

If nothing else, he gained further experience with muscle memory clearing pistol jams.

[@terricrosby3290]

That ammo eject feature is really cool, never seen anything like that before

[@douglasfrompa593]

Have to admit, it ran well on that first stage. Thanks Ian, always good to see them working

[@treesparks1467]

Should definitely make this a regular series!

[@toofar7493]

I think you did a great job on what you had. Like you said the first shots went really well. I do love these videos and it looks like everyone at the range does too.

[@ashley587]

Can't wait to see another back-up gun match with this gun! It's an incredibly beautiful design.

[@jtj1331]

I hope you take it out again and film. Looks like a great gun to shoot

[@Kremit_the_Forg]

03:16 In the background we can see a Brassgoblin harvesting artifacts blessed by the Ianissiah. It's quite rare to see them outside their natural habitat, the indoorrange, though.

[@lancesoterion435]

This model pistol was featured in the movie "Big Jake".

[@cameronmccreary4758]

I wonder if Midway Arms might manufacture this calibre? They usually produce good ammo. Years ago I had a C96 Mauser pistol with a tight action; it was a large ring version. It ran good on FN and Indian ammo; other companies ammunition didn't operate it very well including original DWM ammo. Older DWM ammo was made with "balloon head" cases and l had one case that exploded in the rear of the brass breaking the extractor and magazine spring.

[@FleshPrisonJanitor]

Fun video! I look forward to you trying again with a fresh batch of ammo.

[@MrCarGuy]

Really a testament to the inconsistency of Fiocchi. Pretty well documented

[@leepeel7129]

Even the comments on this page were having trouble loading... Amazingly fun video! Ammo failures included, lots of fun. It really helped me eschew obfuscation!

[@earlyriser8998]

we have all had this happen. It is so frustrating to suddenly have ammo that won't function

[@troy9477]

Been wanting to see one of these at work. I suspect with good ammo it woll do very well. Stripper colps can be quite fast. Enblocs are even better- no empty piece left over. Exactly why i love my Garand.

[@achillebelanger9546]

MDW Guns in Waterford ,Maine has one...along with a table full of similiar oddities.

[@hunglikeahorse120]

It’s crazy that he posts this video. I’ve been playing BF1 the last couple days using this lol

[@Glurgi]

"That's what knives are for, Ian!" LOL

[@allanfoster6965]

Looking forward to a repeat of this gun on the range Ian. It was super slick at the beginning. 😊👍

[@larrys.3992]

I feel your pain! My Marlin lever gun has light primer strikes with one brand of ammo only.

[@KPen3750]

I love how smooth the stripper clips are for this gun, idk if that’s due to technique, or quality of ammo or clips but it’s just so satisfying

[@robertcolbourne386]

My favorite early auto pistol. There is just something about the esthetic ,I love it.

[@MrLobstermeat]

Ian you just turned that pistol into a basically a bolt action!!! Congrats on the score!

[@willcaputo1]

I love the looks of this gun. It's got a good combo of modern and retro.

[@NukeSaturn_]

Please keep bringing obscure historical guns to competitions, it is a glorious power move

[@LeonM4c]

That one handed shooting was sick, had a Han Solo quality to it and the gun looked beautiful

[@argoshikan]

That’s exactly the truck I would imagine Ian drives

[@petermustangch.6348]

The Roth-Steyr M1907 is my favorite pistol full stop.

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

Buffalo Arms load for the 8mm Roth-Steyr. Might be worth trying their loads.

[@kevinlytle6215]

That was the pistol I fell in love with in the 70s when The American Rifleman mag did a guns of the Austro Hungarian War if I remember correctly. If I ever had the chance and the funds I would buy one. Still love that lovely gun.

[@thamomentum]

Gives you a new found respect for the metrology, engineering and development of firearms that now we have firearms that wont jam no matter what you throw at em.

[@stagespectre]

Video quality looks great!

[@not-a-theist8251]

Wooow that's cool. Love seeing these old handguns in action. A bummer that it didn't run well this time. Also I would argue that the gun is indeed a backup gun because it wouldn't have been the primary weapon of the cavalry man

[@krusk3544]

Anazing to see these old guns get the dust shaken off them

[@sparky6855]

I thought something was missing from my day, guess I found it here!

[@ItsPerfexion]

I really enjoy your work Ian, both the forgotten weapons work and your work as lead singer of opeth. You can really do no wrong in my book. Keep it up.👍

[@jerrysolomon7623]

When you show us these ODD-BALL european firearms it makes me see the genesis of John M. Browning much more.

[@poot111111]

Bug guns are the most fun, everyone is just having a good time. Little to no competition.

[@arikwolf3777]

The unloading of this gun was the best full auto mag dump ever!

[@geesixnine]

I would love more of these

[@waso122463]

Beautiful pistol Ian.

[@thegoldencaulk2742]

Yeah that Fiocci black box runs fantastically in mine as well, a shame you didn't have enough for this match. Perhaps there'll be a part II?

[@erikjimenez5851]

When the ATF completely bans detachable 10 round magazines: Ian: Hold my pistol from 100 years ago

[@YouHaveReachedBob]

"I painted over my tail lights so they don't work because tacticool!" Ian, I am disappointed.

[@Taolan8472]

Said it before ill say it again. Modern repro chambered for 9mm would sell really well in certain markets. I would suggest the rear sight block be replaceable though so you could run a dot sight.

[@christianminton]

I like the atmosphere at these matches. I wish I lived close enough to be able to go to these matches. 12 hours away is just a bit much. But maybe one day.

[@Samdegraff]

Seeing that "Eschew Obfuscation" sign sent me hurtling backwards through time to my High School English class.

[@chubbycatfish4573]

Still holding out for that Mars Automatic Pistol BUG match. lol