Roth Steyr Developmental Models 1904 and 1906

[@thomasvanstraelen5848]

"I can't read German. I just bought it for the pictures". So, basically firearm erotica.

[@maikocat]

Yeah yeah, I just read it for the articles.

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

It basiclly says "The Evolotion of the Steyr Pistols"

[@youtubeiswarpingdiscourseb7368]

@@barbarosbozkurt758 based germanon

[@IR4TE]

@@barbarosbozkurt758 *Evolution of the selfloading pistole

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

@@IR4TE Thanks

[@IMarcaI]

Saw the title. "Hmm some extremely rare version of a hand gun, bet Ian is at the nice fireplace house again" 3 seconds in. "Yep"

[@Sir_Godz]

I was thinking the same thing. Fire place guy has the best stuff

[@marvindebot3264]

@@Sir_Godz He does but he has a really crappy fake fireplace with I can never reconcile with his obvious wealth.

[@Lemonjellow]

@@marvindebot3264 I'm thinking it is a conference room of some sort with the fake fireplace to make the room feel, "homey..." Honestly a wild guess with 0 evidence to back it up... lol...

[@marvindebot3264]

@@thecommissaruk True enough but no builder would use that cream brick for the internals of a fireplace.

[@fredklein724]

My grandfather served in the Austrian army in WW1 as an artillery sergeant. This was his carry gun, and I have one.

[@lorenzobellin2727]

@Grendel Hex he Is dead by at least 10 years unfortunatly

[@dylanwalker4164]

Well over a hundred years old

[@khalidgagnon8753]

Beautiful gun.....

[@CacklingAntagonist]

Out of Curiosity did your grandfather ever talk about how he felt about the Austrian command? From reading the Austrian high command seemed staggeringly out of touch (even by other nations standards). I'm just wondering if your grandfather felt the same or if it wasn't a common feeling on the ground

[@adrikboyd9942]

Thats awesome

[@implausibleimpossiblehypot4006]

If I sold all 5 of my firearms I could probably buy the ammo for this gun

[@xgford94]

Yep you might even be able to get two rounds🤣

[@MrJonathandcrow]

Great Job

[@edwalmsley1401]

Ammo is probably harder to find than the gun right now 🤣

[@someguy2741]

Maybe you could buy the book

[@Danonito_flavor]

I am pretty sure the ammo is sporadically produced by a company in Italy though im unsure if any goes to the US.

[@herknorth8691]

Plot twist: the Fireplace Guy is actually Ian but he's to modest to boast about owning thousands of the world's rarest guns.

[@Kumimono]

You realize the fireplace is just picture on a greenscreen, right? I jest. :p

[@herknorth8691]

@@Kumimono I refuse to believe this!!!!

[@lanescharch5005]

I must say, I just arrived back home from a 9 month deployment. And being able to wake up to ForgottenWeapons again has been a blessing.

[@samoksner]

Thank you for your service and welcome back home ;)

[@shawnr771]

Welcome home.

[@stefanmolnapor910]

Thank you for your service, Welcome home🇺🇸

[@mikepette4422]

welcome home !

[@vittoriosandoni7064]

Welcome home, are you ok?

[@jimmyrustler8983]

These remind me of those old "Gat" air pistols, that you had to press the barrel into a wall or floor to cock the action. Awesome to see based fireplace guy still showing off his cool guns!

[@aaa72317]

Fireplace guy strikes again. That must be one marvelous collection this man has.

[@shawnr771]

What is your theory to who he is?

[@c1ph3rpunk]

Sure that’s striker fired? Could be a hammer on the wall.

[@vulekv93]

Maybe it's just a location for filming, maybe it's just a room in some office building or warehouse...

[@forestalfrank1074]

@@shawnr771 You will find him in one of the older videos ;)

[@dri3r]

Me and my father digged one up in the "Battles of the Isonzo" region. Quite a find, it found its place in the local museum.

[@eliasw.7576]

Thank you, that you didnt keep it illegally, many people do it, but you are a good person

[@Checobeep]

Favreau feverishly notes down details of this pistol for greeble application and appearance in Mando.

[@Checobeep]

@@tacticalmattfoley Greedo's gun was a Ruger Mk 1 with a bunch of model parts stuck to it.

[@soriddosuneko]

This is the gun that got me into old firearms, I dug up one of those back in 2012

[@soopahjj11]

Gnarly. Somewhere in Europe?

[@soriddosuneko]

@@soopahjj11 yup, not far from border between Poland and Ukraine

[@soriddosuneko]

@@soopahjj11 that was really lucky because mostly one would find stuff from WW2

[@soopahjj11]

@@soriddosuneko super super cool. Getting into metal detecting the last couple years and I dream of checking out the forests of Eastern Europe.

[@soriddosuneko]

@@soopahjj11 just don't blow yourself up 😉

[@michaelkinsella1807]

Those are in amazing condition. Fireplace guy has one of the best collections in the world.

[@hunterthompson6295]

The Ak Guy Fixed the Worst krink that you did a review on. The one with the front sight block that went flying. Gotta review it again, to go full circle

[@shotforshot5983]

Model 2's grip looks even more ergonomic than the final rendition

[@Hybris51129]

Fireplace man strikes again!

[@sumvs5992]

Owner of most commercially available firearms from before 1920

[@vulekv93]

I'm starting to think this is just a "set piece" for filming. This could be just an office at some random building or a part of a warehouse...

[@darrenbrashaw8409]

@@vulekv93 going by the shadow there is a window with a tree outside to Ian's right.

[@marvindebot3264]

@@vulekv93 It's not a part of the home that the guy who owns these pieces lives in I'll bet. A cream brick, unused fireplace with a really tacky mantle? Na.

[@nickbremner6274]

These are marvellous pistols, originally designed for cavalry they have a very positive trigger pull; I imagine it was made so strong to avoid the misfortune of a rider having a negligent discharge and shooting his horse in the back of the head! They were adopted by early aircrew as well. I had the good fortune to document and photograph one of these pistols, with a leather holster I think, for "Explosion! the Museum of Naval Firepower" in Gosport, Hamshire, UK. (Well worth a visit). As far as I remember it was surrendered by a German Naval Officer in 1918.

[@MobiuSphere]

If there was ever a gun that should be turned into a Star wars blaster, this is probably it

[@chekovsgunman]

maybe just replicas, save the originals for conservation

[@ScottKenny1978]

It's amazing how many early semi-auto pistols (or replicas) have shown up as blasters...

[@davidnagore725]

@@tacticalmattfoley They actually developed that blaster from one of the Ruger Mark 22LR pistols. Not sure which series. I can see how you'd think so, tho.

[@davidnagore725]

I've often wondered how the Sharps Buffalo rifle would look if reimagined as a cycler rifle in the Star Wars Universe.

[@davidnagore725]

Another one would be the Maxim-Silverman.

[@Danonito_flavor]

I am blessed to have a roth steyr with serial number #753 from my grandfather ! Though it's in bad shape, it's still amazing!

[@fadugleman]

Very interesting. Was it a war capture?

[@fadugleman]

Very interesting. Was it a war capture?

[@Danonito_flavor]

@@fadugleman Not sure about the exact origin as he passed way in 07, but I do know he fought for the greek resistance (where the pistol was kept all these years). Its also the rarer Budapest version but unfortunately its badly pitted.

[@fadugleman]

@@Danonito_flavor That’s a pretty awesome. Really a great heirloom.

[@iflystuff1]

Knew it was going to be Fireplace Guy before I even clicked...

[@SlavicCelery]

I can feel Othais breathing heavily while watching this video.

[@SlavicCelery]

He'd also show off a Raven 25ACP pistol in front of both of these.

[@jdunn5128]

The cursed krink has been saved by AK Jesus, thought I'd update Gun Jesus

[@therideneverends1697]

Whoever this collector is he/she has the remarkable ability to not just find unicorns, but galivanting packs of unicorns, "heres this trials pistol, in perfect shape that they only made 6 of, in contrast to this other pistol of which there are 2 known in existance, which is next to my first model C96 that has Paul Mausers signature etched by hand by non other than the man himself!" Like if it was from one country i could assume a company was selling off its old stuff and they just happened to know a guy or be in the right place at the right time, but this unicorn collection spans 100 years and most corners of the globe. It must truely be a remarkable collection when seen in full in person

[@MrMolotov888]

I love how the beavertail just sticks out of the back

[@soopahjj11]

“Nice beaver” “Thanks, I just had it stuffed.”

[@Derp12]

@@soopahjj11 RIP Leslie Nielsen

[@soopahjj11]

@@Derp12 😔✌🏻

[@benus486]

This pistol is so awesome, I love austrian arms.

[@ES90344]

Whenever my Glock fanboy friend makes fun of me for liking "old fashioned" hammer fired SIGs I remind him of the existence of this gun. Usually shuts him up.

[@erikm12]

I'll take "old fashioned" gun over one that looks like it came out of a KB Toys lazer tag set any day.

[@richard_from_england333]

@@erikm12 I'll take something that actually works, is simpler and all in all better.. There's a reason pistols evolved and didn't stay the same

[@jacktheripper4908]

Ian you're keeping us gun nuts alive during covid, thank you!

[@amphibiousone7972]

It's almost like you tell a story of history from the perspective of the guns that tell the story of their birth. You're the best Boss.

[@zexelM]

Looking at the lanyard ring iterations i see a pattern where BMW is going with their front grills.

[@a_blind_sniper]

Looks like an unholy amalgam of a Mars Automatic and a Steyr 1912! Awesome!

[@bobjones5674]

I'd really like to hear the history on how fireplace guy has like, all of the cool, old, self-loading pistols.

[@neophyl]

Time traveller.

[@captainswoop8722]

$

[@ScottKenny1978]

Money. Lots and lots of money.

[@andersjjensen]

What is even more mind bending is that he has all the unubtanium development versions. Fireplace guy must have been collecting for a lifetime...

[@marvindebot3264]

Good taste, a lot of knowledge, great contacts, a lifetime of collecting and huge amounts of disposable income.

[@TheRumbles13]

Thanks for all the content lately Ian! 🙏

[@petesheppard1709]

Ian needs a steampunk costume for these early semiautos. With the hair and goatee, he'd look perfect!

[@freeman5799]

I don't even own a gun, but I really enjoy these simply for the history lesson lol I subscribed. Good stuff!

[@freeman5799]

@@JosipRadnik1 That's cool! Here in the UK gun laws are harsh so I find myself watching lot of ians videos lately. What's your favourite weapon you own? :)

[@freeman5799]

@@JosipRadnik1 you know your stuff! I'm an amateur at best. I'm not sure on the gun laws here primarily because I have never thought to own a gun. Its more of an appreciation to the weapon smiths and origins of the weapons themselves. But I'm pretty sure you are right about black powder, its fairly easy to get here and our re-enactments are fairly popular but as to everything else I don't know. All I do know is that guns are no where near as popular here as they are else where like America. And even then I don't fully understand what you need to own a firearm there or anywhere else. I'm new to this scene and I would like to own a nice pistol. Just feel like its a lot of hoops to jump through before I even get there! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge as well, just shows you that people are smart when it comes to things they are passionate about

[@matthewpalmer7184]

Fireplace dude strikes again, with yet more cool pistols of theirs

[@JakeTerch]

Random thought: Does anyone else miss the old Forgotten Weapons intro music?

[@TheRevoltingMan]

Tell me that grip isn’t shaped just like a CZ75’s. Also, Fireplace Guy is actually General Patton who looted every armory in Europe along with the Lipizzaner stallions.

[@みぎー-b9j]

とても大好きな銃です。セミ・ダブルアクションメカニズムが大好きです。ビデオで紹介されなかったことが残念ですが、専用チャージングツールが見事に作られていてで装填するのがとても良い。

[@barbarosbozkurt758]

It is nice to see this guy still making videos

[@b.dot.]

I woke up, vision blurry, I thought that said Moth Slayer, not Roth Steyr

[@oldesertguy9616]

These are the type of guns that got me watching Forgotten Weapons.

[@davidwright2706]

I've seen a couple of examples of the 07 Roth up for sale but none in that nice of condition.

[@keithau8159]

Yeah,Happy New Year,unforgotten weapon,learned a lot about pistol and gun for the past few years from your channels at all.Very informative and detail information to depict last 1-2 hundred years all kinds of European and States pistol,rifles at all.

[@Smallathe]

Awesome. No field strip???

[@brianbeckman3713]

Every time I see that fireplace I think of the Month of Bergmann.

[@matttracy8682]

I would be interested in your review of a modern biathlon rifle. I am particularly curious about how the action lock mechanism works.

[@oscarbaezsoria1650]

I see Star Wars prop material in these! Luv em!

[@jayzenitram9621]

Who is fireplace man?

[@ScottKenny1978]

A *very* awesome dude for letting Ian show us all the unobtainium things he has!

[@Taolan8472]

A full size pistol with a fixed internal magazine fed by stripper clips would probably sell fairly well in certain markets these days... especially those run by folks that seem to think "detachable box magazines" make a weapon more dangerous.

[@shawnr771]

I was wondering how they were loaded.

[@earlyriser8998]

fireplace collector has an awesome collection

[@Kumimono]

Trigger in the penultimate model looks thicker than the one before, also, shiny. :) And the Patent text in white looks strangely modern.

[@peterdumpel5729]

The whole story of how the gun got ordered sounds very much Austrian. Comission decides something. Comission goes home and does nothing for a year and then requests some minor changes. Decission is delegated upwards and nothing happens for another one and a half years. Decission is adopted having probably taken double or tripple the time necessary. Come to think of it, this also perfectly describes the process of how houseworks or repairs are done in my home.

[@henrylorin6848]

Ian is terrific, and his channel is must-watch stuff. It really doesn't matter, but I just discovered that this video was actually filmed in August, 2020 (or before.) Ian released a video back then of another Roth pistol that was done the same day this video was made. Interesting.

[@worldtraveler930]

I remember passing up buying more than one nice example of these pistols at gunshows in the eighties because of it's nonexistent ammunition.

[@KristianHerdi]

I die just a little bit every time Ian pronounce "Teodorovick" instead of "Teodorovich"!

[@loupiscanis9449]

Thank you ,Ian .

[@bikedude5911]

Interesting in that we didn't see the part where Ian takes the firearm apart. I'm still trying to figure out where the mag is?

[@DavidCowie2022]

If I remember correctly, the magazine is in the handle, and is loaded via a stripper clip, from the top. Like a Mauser C96.

[@jamesallred460]

I love how steam punk these things are.

[@Mo_Taser]

That's either a nearly useless single shot or it uses a top loading clip.

[@romanheart8997]

I have one of these, for Years now...I Soooooo agree with Ian....they are very Nice, fun, and cool(in design and ergonomics). And accurate too...it's biggest drawback was(is)the internal magazine(remember it's design is well over a 100 years old). So, If you find one....BUY IT...You won't regret it!

[@jwilkinson5987]

Who is fireplace man? How does he have such an amazing collection? So many years of videos and so many rare guns!

[@hockeywarrior]

Can we talk about how AMAZINGLY nice these guns are? Especially the second gun? Looks like it literally just rolled off the factory line... Fireplace Dude has nice taste.

[@DRNewcomb]

If you're searching for the previous video Ian mentioned, It's spelled "Theodorovic".

[@emanekaf145]

This pistol looks like the Forgotten Weapons logo was used as the blueprint.

[@usbiv223]

“Pretty Much Mostly Good” is the name of my new band!

[@phileas007]

The identity of Fireplace Guy is the internet's closest guarded secret

[@Ashmoleon2006]

im pretty sure these are what Greef Karga was dual wielding in the Mandalorian

[@SldgeHammr]

You wanna know what other gun that was manufactured by FEG? Tim from MAC can tell you.

[@deanhankio6304]

"selbstladepistole" what a super cool word

[@michaelsanders6920]

Fireplace guy strikes again!

[@jrooney58]

It would be nice to see those out on the range.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

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[@jrooney58]

@@ForgottenWeapons Ask and you shall receive. I don’t remember ever watching that video before. Thanks for the link!

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@ForgottenWeapons nice shooting! I don't know how I missed that episode.

[@DerLaCroix1]

The city or Steyr still has a quite nice firearms Museum, about the firearms produced by Waffenfabrik Steyr, just in case someone might visit Austria in the future.

[@adriaanpretorius3411]

Me watching this video on Friday 30 April 2021 16:37 GMT. Greetings from Pretoria South Africa.

[@simonrook5743]

The thumbs down is from the emperor for the implied criticisms his decision making speed!

[@therideneverends1697]

You know that was my thought, then i thought about in a full monarchy where everything is personally improved by the emperor, its actually fairly quick all things considered I mean this guy has to sign off of everything from where to put the telephones to what colour to paint the houses

[@ScottKenny1978]

@@therideneverends1697 delegation, FFS! "You are now the Minister of House Colors. Don't bother me unless it's a really weird color they want approved."

[@chrisgabbert658]

I would like to see it run a couple of mags .

[@glockzilla1918]

"Get rid of the safety". Which nicely sums up the difference between Germans and Austrians.

[@glockzilla1918]

@@kenbrown2808 I beg to differ. My 1911s(yes, I actually own two, even as an Austrian), have a manual and a grip safety. While looking a the current Austrian Army and Police sidearm, the P80 aka G17, .......... BTW the Germans wrote a complete TL (Technische Leitlinie) to make Glocks ineligible for police use. Now their SWAT Teams and the GSG9 are not bound by this and use Glocks. In the meantime Glock has fielded a model based on the Steyr 1912 operating system, which was promptly adopted by one of the Federal States.

[@glockzilla1918]

@@kenbrown2808 The predecessor to this pistol was an eight-shot double-action revolver, ......

[@LifeisGood762]

That's pretty neat to see the Glock striker mechanism so early on. Also Austrian.

[@alfulton5946]

I'd love to get one of these. A 1907 would be great also

[@stizanley3987]

Beautiful weapon.

[@Sandman_04-l8u]

Hey Ian, The Ak Guy fixed that horrible Ak you did a video on.

[@Guhonter]

Magic fireplace delivers again.

[@gerryjamesedwards1227]

Here's a hint on Germanic pronunciation; if the word ends in 'e', it should have an 'uh' sound on the end, so pistole should sound like 'piss-tol-uh'.

[@Herbert080345]

Gaston Glock admittet to me, that he got the idea from Roth

[@TheStillWalkin]

So why would you not want a safety? Especially when riding a horse?

[@alexandermarinin7036]

I'm pretty sure that it's a Slovenian last name, and it should be pronounced like Theodorowitch (or even Fedorowitch), not Teodorowick

[@Enderbro3300]

"this of course was developed and adopted by the austrian calvary" ah yes! of course! how could I have forgotten!!

[@joatmon3282]

The version without a safety has a square button looking thing that was not on the version with a safety. what was that? I was surprised you did not mention it when discussing the differences.

[@AndreasMarx]

Bolt catch - if you're loading without a clip, push that in to keep the bolt open. The earlier version didn't need a separate button because the safety also locked the bolt in place.

[@raulduke6105]

A friend has a RS I am so jealous

[@robertcolbourne386]

My favorite early semi-automatic pistol !

[@LifeisGood762]

Bigger lanyard loop. BIGGER LANYARD LOOP.

[@randomidiot8142]

I get CZ 75 vibes from looking at that.

[@r1w3d]

I love this damn channel and I'm never unimpressed 😎

[@ScottKenny1978]

Ooohhh, Fireplace Guy strikes again!

[@mascadadelpantion8018]

Just about any gun that has the word Steyr on it is safe to say that I love it

[@scatmann6502]

This thing makes me think of the Mars Automatic

[@fuzzyreticle]

Holy high bore axis.

[@aperson3963]

Steyr should make a modern 9x19mm pistol with a similar rotating barrel locking system instead of trying to make a slightly improved Glock.

[@aizen3606]

This looks like a cousin of Mars Automatic Pistol in BF1

[@theluiginoidperson1097]

4:44 You're telling me this is an Austrian technique passed down from generation to generation up to the Glock?

[@SortenRavn]

Would love to see Ian on the range with this.

[@ForgottenWeapons]

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[@SortenRavn]

@@ForgottenWeapons i feel blessed now..🙏 Gun Jesus noticed me..🥰

[@leximatic]

It's "Rawd" not "Roth*" and "Munnlisher" not "Munnlicker", but with the second name you are getting better, being almost there. I bet, i'm not sure, that it's "Tayodorowitch" not "*Theodorowick", too. Also it's "Sh-tire". One day you will master all them german weapon manufacturer names, i'm sure. The book title was great, though, which gives lots of hope for your German in the future.

[@andersjjensen]

We've given up. Ian speaks English and some French... but butchers every other language like a boss. Which is to be expected, as nearly every country has had some cool guns, and we can't expect him to learn every language... When he was at Tøjhusmuseet in Denmark I was rolling on the floor laughing as he did his best to guestimate Danish in to some half English, half French pronunciation that was as cute as it was horrible :P

[@leximatic]

@@andersjjensen I see. Well, it would be quite some languages indeed and Danish is not that easy. Nevertheless i'm positive.