Bergman 1894: Invents front slide serrations Glock 2020: “Meh”
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@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you're taking these on. I love the Bergmann pistols and hearing more about them.
@ForgottenWeapons8 жыл бұрын
You'll like the series, then - in filming the videos, we had a total of about 55 different Bergmanns out to work with. :)
@Candrsenal8 жыл бұрын
Forgotten Weapons so heaven?
@fynnwind24946 жыл бұрын
C&Rsenal q
@cbroz74924 жыл бұрын
Remember that in Big Jake, Patrick Wayne carried a version of the Bergman...other that Clint using a C 96 in 'Joe Kidd'...it is the only "C&R" pistol I know of used in a western...
@M.M.83-U3 жыл бұрын
Profecy is fulfilled ?
@confuseatronica8 жыл бұрын
the loaded clips are so pretty- instead of a bandolier, imagine a vest or a jacket with a bunch of those clips hanging in neat rows so your alternate-history pistoleer could yank them off and reload.
@falloutghoul14 жыл бұрын
They dangle off the hooks and sparkle in the sun.
@super00su3 жыл бұрын
If they had double stacked they could got 8 rounds
@zacharyjohnson5983 жыл бұрын
Noah Macmanus style.
@acidwizzardbastard2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Yank them off.
@chadbarrett35458 жыл бұрын
It is a shame they didn't catch on. They are rather stylish guns.
@keithmoore73908 жыл бұрын
only if you don't have to holster it, then it'd be awkward!!! let alone a wimpy load!!!
@XDfunnyguy6 жыл бұрын
I love this pistol, it's got a strange beauty to it. It looks somehow simultaneously sci fi and old timey. I want a replica that would fire something more available like 9mm or something. Just wow
@Bramswarr6 жыл бұрын
in 1894 5 rounds was pretty standard, especially considering most revolvers were only safe with a 5 round load (so the hammer can rest on an empty chamber)
@yienmaster045 жыл бұрын
Get ready for them to spike in popularity now. It looks like it's going to be the main character's blaster in the new Star Wars show. (The Mandalorian)
@jamesscales93975 жыл бұрын
@@yienmaster04 yes I was thinking the same thing
@baptistus546 жыл бұрын
micro picatinny rail at the top right for tactical oil lamp or magnifying glass laser
@BrassCatcher5 жыл бұрын
‘‘Twas actually an attachment point for ye olde timepiece. Custom order for Jerry Miculek’s grand daddy
@smalltown64245 жыл бұрын
😂
@eskimo05w5 жыл бұрын
I was going to say that.
@raiderrichard72914 жыл бұрын
baptistus54 oil lamp hahaha!
@raiderrichard72914 жыл бұрын
@webtoedman nah
@DACFalloutRanger8 жыл бұрын
Those are gorgeous. So many guns I wish were still produced.
@nateharder22863 жыл бұрын
Yeah someone needs to make a repro of this.
@daltongarrett71173 жыл бұрын
there's always the big reproduction companies like Cimarron I guess, I'd like to see them come out with more cartridge guns from the 1800s
@trooperdgb97225 ай бұрын
@@daltongarrett7117 Cimarron makes nothing..they import Italian repros. I suspect that unlike the market for repro 1873's etc, the market for these would be too small, and the manufacturing cost far too high. Beautiful guns though.
@daltongarrett71175 ай бұрын
@@trooperdgb9722 they sell imports of reproduction guns from the past. I said it right. I just didn't specify.
@trooperdgb97225 ай бұрын
@@daltongarrett7117 Fair enough. I read "Reproduction companies" as companies actually producing reproductions! Others have in the past talked of Navy Arms and Cimmaron etc as if they WERE gunmakers...
@absolutelyyousless76054 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, the Bornheim from Hunt Showdown.... I’m surprised no one has mentioned that yet.
@potatosackstudios63743 жыл бұрын
mmhm mmhm mmhm MMHMMMMMM...
@paavoyletyinen68803 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite guns in the game!
@bigbighuge-supa3 жыл бұрын
@@paavoyletyinen6880 but it need 4 body shoot to kill a guy :(
@nateroberts7753 жыл бұрын
That is, why I’m here
@CyberGenesis13 жыл бұрын
@@bigbighuge-supa 4? aim better, its a 3fer to the torso - still 1 to the head
@krmould8 жыл бұрын
Hi Ian, I would like to extend a special thanks to the owner of these pistols for allowing you to do your outstanding (as usual) show and tell on these rare firearms. To all you fans of the channel who may have rare firearms of your own, I strongly encourage you to share your collection with Ian. It is a shame when guns are locked away out of sight. Guns like these Bergmanns are beautiful pieces of art and history and deserve to be shared with people who can truly appreciate them! Well done, as always, Ian.
@awol15615 жыл бұрын
And now Mandalorian makes this relevant again.
@lafeelabriel5 жыл бұрын
Got to keep those old Star Wars traditions alive after all.
@MicTheOni5 жыл бұрын
I literally saw this in my recommended thinking that it looked like a blaster not knowing that it was in the Mandalorian...
@GrumblingGrognard5 жыл бұрын
Only for fools with no knowledge of their own history.
@PsyckoSama5 жыл бұрын
@Star Trek Theory I'm sure someone is going to start reproducing them specifically for that.
@granola6615 жыл бұрын
Loving the show and the gun designs in it!
@AxeGaijin8 жыл бұрын
Put some doohickies on there and it'll be a perfect Star wars blaster ;)
@keithmoore73908 жыл бұрын
i'd watch about saying stuff like that, those fans will drive you nuts!!!! I speak from experience!!!it took 2 months to shut them up!!!!!
@gadsdenguy48808 жыл бұрын
/watch?v=s6EQQnkUGIk
@MakeDaley5 жыл бұрын
... the Internet heard you.. this is now a basis for the Mandalorian gun for the TV new series ^^
@vadernation12335 жыл бұрын
Got great news for you buddy
@BjornTheDim5 жыл бұрын
Heh, I just finished watching his most recent video.
@peterfranks28192 жыл бұрын
Fabulous pistols, I collect pre 1900 Bergmann pistols and I have two of the 1894 models number 6 and number 8. They are similar to number 14 in Ians video with number 8 being the closest in features. All was not lost with these 'experimental firearms' as you know Bergmann learned from these and produced the fairly successful number two and three with a few number four's among them. Great presentation Ian - very rare pistols for sure.
@fell55148 жыл бұрын
Despite the mechanical disadvantages, I'm kind of sad that the Bergman models weren't more successful. Those designs are just beautiful.
@MikeBaxterABC8 жыл бұрын
I agree! ... I wish someone would make a reproduction! (I think in the popular 9mm) ... if the price was it would sell!
@borisdorofeev56023 жыл бұрын
This is an absolutely gorgeous handgun. I find myself rewatching this video often. The magazine's location must make it very well balanced. I want to own one of these, a broomhandle Mauser and a Luger. Those guns are just pure art. Probably the most elegant handguns.
@IFDFAdmiralY118 жыл бұрын
This gun looks like it could fit in a Sci-Fi movie. Just add a nice paint job, and boom: futuristic pistol.
@karmabad62878 жыл бұрын
IFDF: Admiral Y11 i was thinking that too
@DJ-je2zh8 жыл бұрын
IFDF: Admiral Y11 don't paint it!
@karmabad62878 жыл бұрын
Dustin Jenkins i wasnt sugesting painting it for the record. Lol. Just agreeing it looks futuristic
@HALLish-bl3bm8 жыл бұрын
Honestly Star Wars could probably get away without modifying it at all, or just adding a scope or weird muzzle.
@j.troydoe12788 жыл бұрын
easy there Buck Rodgers!
@DravenLostSoul8 жыл бұрын
Video one from the #1 himself, Gun Jesus. Thank you for the video, and have a good one Ian.
@charlesbatkin87228 жыл бұрын
Some of the most gorgeous pistols I've seen
@jacquescousteau31943 жыл бұрын
There's just such an unique rustic beauty to these early 1900s european handguns like this and the C96 that no modern day gun even tries to replicate
@LaraCroftCP10 ай бұрын
You mean German Handguns...
@josepheastham97175 жыл бұрын
"I'm a Mandalorian, weapons are part of my religion.”
@Arthurzeiro5 жыл бұрын
Could you imagine Ian making a cameo on that series, like the sommelier in Johh Wick 2.
@This_Account5 жыл бұрын
Mandalorians have been oppressed by the Fed for long enough!
@iluvmym45 жыл бұрын
Joseph Eastham I thought I recognized this pistol 🔫
@salavat2945 жыл бұрын
All praise “Gun Jesus”.
@granola6615 жыл бұрын
My religion is definitely mandalorian
@yahyamusseb5 жыл бұрын
It popped up in my recommendations after i watched Ian's video about the mandalorian's blaster
@F10835 жыл бұрын
Mine showed up in the recommended a few front page refreshes later. 251,657 views. How much will it increase?
@Payne4274 жыл бұрын
Ian activated the well and saved his soul. He's back to tell us how he survived it all with this handgun.
@lucajohnen67195 жыл бұрын
MHHHH I WONDER WHY THIS IS IN MY FEED AGAIN
@pandahsykes6025 жыл бұрын
Luca Johnen cuz KZbin = Disney
@InfernoNinja1118 жыл бұрын
Genuinely cool looking pistol (the well finished one anyway). Looks like a cross between Han Solos' C96 and a LeMatt. Always a pleasure visiting your channel sir.
@GeoffSayre8 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, really enjoying learning about the Bergmann Pistols so far. On an unrelated note, any plans to add a ball-cap to your merchandise page? All the shirts are super cool, but I really want a hat! Thanks for all your hard work!
@ForgottenWeapons8 жыл бұрын
I will look into caps - thanks!
@libhranan5 жыл бұрын
Please tell us that the owner is willing to do a photogrametry session with this pistol so all the gun/prop nerds can 3d print the base for Mandalorian blasters.
@athodyd5 жыл бұрын
"The safety on these pistols is very important. Definitely need to use it--or you [chuckles] would've-- the chances you'd be carrying one of these pistols today are approximately zero." Oh yeah? I can't walk two blocks in this goddamn city without being menaced by a troop of Prussian uhlans (THANKS, OBAMA). If I didn't have my Bergmann as part of my EDC along with my saber. my horse, my cavalry lance, a Maglite, and twelve angry drunk Cossacks, I genuinely don't believe I could make my weekly run to Krystal's and come back with all 144 tiny awful hamburgers.
@charliemcfacefuck47984 жыл бұрын
I had Krystal for the first time this year. God they are horrible
@falloutghoul14 жыл бұрын
Prussians? Is Blucher in the woods?
@fuuryuuSKK4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a gros order of hamgurgers, ngl
@TJMartinek8 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome!!! Thank you for making this information available, you are IMO one of the great internet educators of our age.
@Thing.of.nought8 жыл бұрын
Really unique and beautiful pistols Ian. Can't wait ot see the other ones!
@peterpayne27205 жыл бұрын
With The Mandalorian release, these pistols and your video will deservedly receive more views. Those pistols, and many of the pistols that are from this time period are beautiful. Though they are often complicated and of questionable reliability they are still beautiful. Nothing in the firearms industry looks like these at all aesthetically. Definitely sucks honestly.
@benbaggen23753 жыл бұрын
The last round in the clip has a huge groove in it from the follower slaming on it
@Vektorion3 жыл бұрын
This is officially my new favorite pistol
@francescoluchena83024 жыл бұрын
This thing has a damn amazing looking gun that trigger hole is jaw dropping
@GiggleBlizzard4 жыл бұрын
Whoever owned these ones, thank you so much for keeping them around so Ian could look at them and share with me this wonderful information on them. Stay safe, peeps!
@psifour67594 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video discussing the practical/modern implications of clips vs. magazines. For instance it seems to me that a design like this could be further optimized to reduce load time, battlefield waste, and weight.
@CountForsycula8 жыл бұрын
Please express our gratitude to the collector who has let you into their home to show us these guns. I know I appreciate it a lot!
@johndoe73423 жыл бұрын
10:32 "the chances that you'd be carrying one of these pistols today is approximately 0" Me: you don't know this ian, I haven't become rich yet
@juliannixon97343 жыл бұрын
This is actually a really cool little firearm! I would love to get my hands on one.
@CCGR-20248 жыл бұрын
I definitely want to see more content like this! Great video of a fascinating time in weapons development.
@gokuss158 жыл бұрын
I noticed there's this really cool motif in Star Wars of giving heroes blasters based on turn of the century Semi autos. Obviously Han has his Mauser, and in episode 7 he gives Rey a blaster that looks an awful lot like it was built off of a Bergmann. Now in rogue one, Jyn Erso is given what looks like an artillery Luger with a heavy barrel.
@EliteKnight973 жыл бұрын
Such beautiful craftsmanship
@edrees38748 жыл бұрын
This gun has great lines. Love the handgrip and trigger hole. Looks like something from a fantasy western.
@NarcassiticGamer8 жыл бұрын
for being an odd little pistol it sure as hell looks pretty amazing, I'd buy one if I had the money
@ledzepan24676 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's the new Hunt: Showdown gun!
@larrykathyloper51828 жыл бұрын
I love the birds head grip on this gun. The overall look is so steam punk. Someone needs to work this into a movie.
@SatansPooper8 жыл бұрын
Ian, at 10:08 you start to speak about the safety solving the problem of accidentally discharging this pistol via an impact on the hammer....I have heard you use the term "Ameliorate" for a few years now. To quote Inigo Montoya when speaking about the term Inconceivable, "I do not think it means what you think it means." I believe the term you are reaching for is "Mitigate". I could be wrong but isn't Amelioration when something is burned to a crisp. (I last saw the term "ameliorate" in use in the Diablo games from Blizzard Entertainment) Just a constructive criticism from a longtime fan. Thanks for making such great firearms and history content. I originally found you through FW. But I have to say that I love your Forgotten Weapons and your InRangeTV channels.
@SatansPooper8 жыл бұрын
I stand corrected. Ian, You are using the term "Ameliorate" in it's proper context. See, we learn something new from you every day. :) Definition of Ameliorate - To make something bad, better.... To improve ease of use.....to make easier....etc. (Thanks to Merriam-Webster for the definitions)
@meatsweatmundungus64157 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful little pistol, so ahead of its time!
@johnboyd97133 жыл бұрын
Man this is a classy implement. It is just wonderful
@EnderLord0078 жыл бұрын
It's bizarre, and a little primitive, and it looks like it belongs in Star Wars. How absolutely perfect for Forgotten Weapons.
@MasterThimself5 жыл бұрын
Would be so cool if someone would attempt to recreate these and chamber it for let's say 9x19 or so. So unique looking even today. Imagine what it looked like for people around 1900. Gorgeous thing.
@Nomad03113 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't take much of an attempt. Any modern gunsmith can recreate one of these with a few tweaks
@vincentrees49705 жыл бұрын
Rosewood grip, goldleaf inlay and a bit of polish and that would be the classiest gun I've ever seen
@JRassi_Militaria8 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see that front slide serrations were just as (in)effective in 1894 as they are today.
@VinaX2R8 жыл бұрын
They should be hiring you on film sets to advice which cool guns should be put in the movies.
@aserta8 жыл бұрын
He had a stint with a certain recent game.
@ThatOneHumanMale8 жыл бұрын
sauce
@diobrando25758 жыл бұрын
ThatOneHumanMale battlefield 1
@95ZR5803 жыл бұрын
Talk about a forgotten weapon. Really interesting piece.
@TheComputerUnderground8 жыл бұрын
It looks very futuristic for its time.
@georgegonzalez-rivas37874 жыл бұрын
Symmetrical, long, and slim -- the ergonomics of a 1951 Navy which has been called the best-pointing pistol ever. Does the Bergmann also point well?
@AmronFortis5 жыл бұрын
Anyone else recognize this from Hunt: Showdown?
@Payne4274 жыл бұрын
Ian saved his soul and is back to tell us about it.
@1stcaptainraldoron5385 жыл бұрын
Saw the thumbnail and my mind immediately went to the Mandolorian. I’m so glad star wars is using props like this again!
@Oddball_E88 жыл бұрын
The Bergmanns just look so amazingly retro-scifi in design :)
@-yeme-5 жыл бұрын
funny you should say that
@CharlieChanizationАй бұрын
No one believes me, but way back when you originally uploaded this, I said to myself “this is so unique. This should really be used in a science fiction movie.” And then Mando pulls this out not too long after.
@keithallardice61394 жыл бұрын
Possibly the coolest-looking weapons ever tbh ...
@papawushutv6 жыл бұрын
Almost seems like you could pull the clip out once it's locked into place, leaving just the rounds in the mag under tension with the follower.
@zacharyrollick61695 жыл бұрын
Only if there are feed lips built into the gun.
@saxonforge4 жыл бұрын
Very good looking pistol and looks like it was hardly used if at all. I was impressed by early semi autos even as a kid back in the 70s. If its being used as a space gun now just imagine seeing it 126 years ago.
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.58 жыл бұрын
I wonder why the trigger looks set at such an odd angle.
@Evirthewarrior8 жыл бұрын
hand placement looks like, your had would be very low on the pistol.
@Michael_Smith-Red_No.58 жыл бұрын
Hmmm. Kind of like Han Solo across the table from Greedo. Very interesting.
@VicariousReality78 жыл бұрын
Because it is extremely high on the gun
@jacobzcheng38025 жыл бұрын
Michael Smith whoa dude you were way ahead of your time
@scarlettluger20608 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ian! I couldn't sleep so this is a godsend!
@randywatson83475 жыл бұрын
Ibhad to revisit this... I might have "forgotten" to watch this video. Such a unique cool design.
@KusagariBlues8 жыл бұрын
It's beautiful, in an alien sort of way.
@-yeme-5 жыл бұрын
"alien"
@seraphimzero66124 жыл бұрын
This comment aged so well.
@KusagariBlues4 жыл бұрын
Star Blyatinum Yeah, I guess it did, didn’t it?
@seraphimzero66124 жыл бұрын
Kusagari Blues Yup. And howdy.
@KusagariBlues4 жыл бұрын
Star Blyatinum Howdy, stranger.
@davidminken40945 жыл бұрын
I have to guess that there's a room full of Star Wars props designers doing a DEEP dive into Forgotten Weapons. Ian should charge a consultant's fee.
@thomask54345 жыл бұрын
its disney...... they get away with lots of stuff....
@92NUKE8 жыл бұрын
seems like a well designed little gun, nice video
@fingerofkawaii8 жыл бұрын
This thing looks so retro-futuristic, people from new "Blade Runner" called, claiming that one of their props has gone lost.
@MarkLaLone5 жыл бұрын
You were really close.
@macbrown995 жыл бұрын
Perfect for the Mandalorian on the go.
@TammoKorsai4 жыл бұрын
This is the way.
@feraligatorade998 жыл бұрын
In all honesty, this would make a great Star Wars blaster.
@Ariana3214 жыл бұрын
And now for a comment which aged ***incredibly well.***
@feraligatorade994 жыл бұрын
@@Ariana321 holy shit, you're right
@jimh67634 жыл бұрын
My favorite pistol next to the 1910/21! Very cool futuristic pistol
@frnweclipse31304 жыл бұрын
Such a beautiful gun
@desroin8 жыл бұрын
In terms of design, these pistols look pretty cool :D
@jacobkeltz35844 жыл бұрын
Really cool pistol! A few usability issues, but otherwise really pretty and has a slick mechanism
@dbmail5456 жыл бұрын
Had several match barrels for Ruger 10/22. All of them were marked "may not eject unfired cartridges". The only example of these I've seen was in the movie "Big Jake".
@quickattackfilms79236 жыл бұрын
What a cool looking gun.
@pablotodamax23116 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful gun
@tamerlanaydamir39264 жыл бұрын
It’s like what if the revolver and the self-loading pistol had a kid.
@happysamoan977 жыл бұрын
This thing looks so cool
@ItsNerfOrNathan2 жыл бұрын
This is a beautiful weapon
@Redmenace964 жыл бұрын
Cruder = more crude. I am astounded each review that Ian finds prototypes. omg. How?
@Beardedwristlocker6 жыл бұрын
I have always been looking for information on this pistol since I first saw it used in the movie big jake with John Wayne
@535tony5 жыл бұрын
The Pistol in Big Jake was called a Bergman 1911 but was in fact a Walther P38 that was mocked up to look like the Bergman.
@nillan4295 жыл бұрын
@@535tony I guess that makes sense because the pistol was so rare even at the time that movie was filmed. Thanks for the Hollywood facts.
@jackmcslay8 жыл бұрын
Odd feeding design, the ejection port suggests it was meant for right-handed use yet loading seems much easier if holding the pistol with the left hand
@eddyguizonde4018 жыл бұрын
afaik, it was standard practice to place your pistol in your left hand and load with your right in that time period. the french 1873 revolver has the loading gate and ejector on the right side, ian covered quite a few revolvers from that era that are the same (look up his vid on the 20-shot pinfire revolver for some eye candy). something else to think about is that pistols were designed to be shot one-handed. your other hand was either holding horse-reigns, a blade (for officers), or flipping off your target (i assume).
@DwWarWolf5 жыл бұрын
Inb4 “hey, the gun from The Mandalorian”
@startide5 жыл бұрын
I ordered comments by date to see similar comments :P
@MrLotrecht5 жыл бұрын
Nice Design i like this!
@mcintoshpc4 жыл бұрын
finally found forgotten bergmanns, so excited!
@dwightbrown28086 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that the layout of the Bergmann is quite like the very popular competion pistols by Walther, Pardini, Hammerli, and others.
@palerider71718 жыл бұрын
Interesting loading system ... I was unaware that anything but box mags and stripper clips where available that earlier.
@nicholasmaugeri7595 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the new video about what guns were used as props.
@mcdodge66793 жыл бұрын
This pistol is beautiful I would love to learn about more guns with a similar style
@theocelot39573 жыл бұрын
what a good looking pistol
@williestyle355 жыл бұрын
I kinda miss that dark red / maroon background. Really highlights the Mandalorian's blaster. XD
@RovingTroll5 жыл бұрын
I love this channel because there's not an NRA plug during every video.
@Nagle112343 жыл бұрын
Good lord what a cool pistol
@DeathsStalkerRVT8 жыл бұрын
looks like a classic "Steampunk" weapon
@radiantjet4188 жыл бұрын
DeathsStalkerRVT I see I am not the only one who thinks so! It would be nice to get a functioning reproduction!
@gold_spin16396 жыл бұрын
I’m currently trying to actually write a steam punk esc story and I’m defiantly going to base the pistols off of these. I say steam punk esc because while it has steam based technology it actually takes place in a more Anglo Saxon type world
@evanlisinski12185 жыл бұрын
And now you are more right than ever
@notinterested84525 жыл бұрын
Star wars.
@ScottKenny19784 жыл бұрын
Eh, not enough exposed working bits for steampunk, IMO. One of those bolt actions converted to semi-auto, however...
@themarlboromandalorian4 жыл бұрын
Cleaning rod might have been abandoned on later versions...but I find it hilarious they left it on for the Mandalorian...because it's supposed to be a blaster...
@Szabla15954 жыл бұрын
Everyone makes fun of the cleaning rod until their first Mudhorn fight. 😉
@Ashfielder8 жыл бұрын
In my opinion that's a really good looking pistol. It reminds me of a competition shooter's custom made handgun for some reason.
@nutsandgum8 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I think they're extremely attractive pistols. Kind of a shame they are far too niche for anyone to manufacture reproductions.
@shinybaldy8 жыл бұрын
Another awesome video. Any chance of doing a review of the H&K P7? Pistol grip cocker should make an interesting demo of how it works.
@ForgottenWeapons8 жыл бұрын
Sooner or later I'm sure I will do the P7.
@RenigadeWarrior18 жыл бұрын
I get my hackles up when he uses the term "clip" as a reflex. But it's cool because he is actually referring to a clip. I think that's a new one for me...
@stewknoles47908 жыл бұрын
Another great video. One complaint, I almost got motion sick during the first few minutes due to the camera swirling back and forth. Other than that, terrific as always.