Rotoscope Battle: Davinci Resolve vs After Effects

[@mr205uc]

Bro this man doing good job He needs more attention.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Thanks man :)

[@aman34587]

Yeh magic mask is better in finding edeges like it can even mask transparency but flickering thing is very annoying although we can tweak little bit but it needs improvement although about hair i think you should try in colour page because theare is personal mode or probably we can use colour picker to isolate hair finely

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Yeah that's a good point. I rarely magic mask in the colour page cause I prefer to have all my VFX work happening in Fusion. But I'll do more experimentation with it in the colour page to see what it's like with rotoscoping fine edges

[@xanzuls]

Great video. But in a production environment, I'd still have to go with Silhouette lol.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

I’ve actually never used it. I wish the magic mask would let you more easily tweak the key frame / mask after tracking. That would make it a lot more user friendly for the pros

[@EricLefebvrePhotography]

The thing is that these tools combined with a bit of traditional roto work for cleanup speed up roto work immensly. You just run your footage through the AI then use some masks and th elikes to do a bit of cleanup here and there. It's great! One thing you should have also ttried is using Depth Maps in DaVinci Studio to isolate your subject ... sometimes that might work as well.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Yeah it’s amazing how easy its becoming to do a really quick but solid roto. I’ve tried out Davinci’s depth mask before and it does work pretty well I certain situations. It would probably have struggled with the dancing shot in this video though 🕺

[@spydergs07]

With Resolve. Turn down the Refine Range to like 10, it will take slightly longer but outputs even better rotos.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Where exactly can I see this refined range option in magic mask? I usually magic mask within fusion.

[@spydergs07]

@@HeyAdamGrasso At 3:02, when you can see your hand. On the right toolbar second option from the bottom right above the Checkmark "Post multiply Image". I drop mine between 2 and 10. Typically 10 is good, but the lower it goes the more it refines your roto.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

@@spydergs07ah cool. Thanks for explaining. I didn't even know that was an option

[@Mr.Adib_2.0]

How long after effects and davinci resolve may take for rotoscoping 30 second video?

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

It entirely depends on the specs of your computer

[@RepeatRepeatPro]

I find the same, magic mask is better for simple quick stuff. Anything complex I find rotobrush has defo been more successful and easier to use.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Yeah especially with Rotobush 3.0. It seems the AI in AE is more accurate. But most Rotowork I do isn't super complex anyway or needs to be really accurate, so Magic Mask makes the most sense for my particular workflow 🙂

[@spydergs07]

For complex stuff, I turn down the refine in Resolve to 10 or lower and then can quickly use the subtract on keyframes that jitter and get super clean rotos very fast.

[@soncreativeau]

Can fusion do everything after effects can?

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

Pretty much yes. Maybe 1 or 2 effects have to be replicated by stacking multiple effects on top of one another, but essentially, they can do the same thing.

[@NaudVanDalen]

It's great and all, but I'm trying to use fusion in Davinci Resolve and it runs at a few frames per second without even placing anything in it. Why is it so much slower when it's literally just playing the same clip that plays fine in the edit mode? To be fair, my laptop is almost 10 years old, but they could have made their app literally 10 times faster. Even 100 times in certain circumstances, like drawing a few rectangles slows it down to a few fps even though my laptop can probably draw millions of rectangles.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

I have the same issue sometimes too. I can't even seem to find a way to render cache the playback in the Fusion page like I can in the edit page. If anyone knows how to do that this let us know please 🙂

[@xanzuls]

First of all, make you sure you meet the minimum requirements for Resolve but if you have the Resolve studio then you should be able to also get Fusion studio with the same key. And Fusion studio runs a lot better performance wise. And if you're computer is still struggling then you can try right clicking next to the empty area of your plat pause buttons in Fusion and uncheck high quality and motion blur. Hope that helps.

[@spydergs07]

I run a Win 11 pro with an 10th gen i7, 64gb of ram, and 2080 super gpu. My playback is super smooth in davinci, hardly anything slows it down while editing

[@aman34587]

​@@HeyAdamGrasso there are many things you can do to boost your performance within fusion page like you can disable motion blur and high quality by right clicking toolbar where we pause or play vedio from and every node has caching option just right click on the node you want to cache or prerender right click and find prerender or something or better you use saver and loader node for a particular effect😊

[@rano12321]

make sure you are over recommended specs.

[@tonyben-no7il]

Davinci best

[@rw3452]

After Effect should be ashamed of itself for 50 a month and still year after year can't do basic things well.

[@HeyAdamGrasso]

For me it was always performance issues, not so much that the software was lacking anything in particular. But I’ve not used AE much recently, so not sure if Adobe have addressed the stability issue since then.

[@spydergs07]

​@@HeyAdamGrassoI support a few large companies that do video editing, they are constantly having crashing issues.