YouTuber Faked A LiveStream To Allegedly Create An Alibi For Murder- Case of Stephen McCullagh

[@lilylee4621]

Where I live, every appointment or hospital visit, they’d make up a reason to make my husband leave and make sure I felt safe at home. After I gave birth, they did the same and asked if I was scared or felt unsafe in my home. At the time I was baffled. My husband is the sweetest and most gentle human I’ve ever met. He cries at Disney movies. I originally felt insulted at what they were insinuating because I’ve been in a DV relationship before. Now, I get why they always asked. It wasn’t about a weird snap judgment of his character, it was a precaution because of these statistics. I already loved my experience with that hospital but now I love them even more. They were looking out for me and I never even realized it. I hope everything hospital starts doing this.

[@lilylee4621]

TW . . . . . That DV relationship actually ended with a miscarriage because his verbal assaults escalated to worse things. 😅I think about that lost child every day. I’m grateful for my husband and my two rainbow babies. But I will always mourn that child. My heart goes out to this family 😞 💔

[@lixyororke]

@@lilylee4621Just a heads up, if you're going to put a trigger warning, you should actually write what the warning is for, e.g. "TW drug abuse" or "TW miscarriage" etc., because otherwise it isn't as useful. Just "trigger warning" can cover a lot of things, so its better to accurately say what the potentially triggering content actually is. I think anyone watching this video was probably okay, but just in the future.

[@dorontina8048]

Bruh

[@katattack907]

I had a similar reaction to you when I was first asked those questions in a healthcare setting. It does feel personal at first, but then you realize that no one can tell for sure what a relationship is like on the inside, so they're creating an opportunity for people to get help. Bless all who create such opportunities.

[@Rae-ss1df]

@@lilylee4621 I'm so sorry for your loss, but I'm glad that you're happier now 🥰🥰🥰

[@sgtfluffy718]

I was pushed down the stairs at 7 months pregnant by the father. Thank god my daughter will be 23 this year

[@mikaelastefkova]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that :c Wishing all the best to you and your family 💗

[@omnicupid6694]

Your daughter sounds like a strong fighter.

[@nellobean7404]

like mother like daughter definitely, both very strong

[@itwontletmeusekorean]

one time my friends mom (she's a teacher) got pushed down the stairs by a student while she was pregnant with my friend, i'm pretty sure the kid either got punched a few times or smth r like that

[@froggycolouring]

Sorry that happened to you :( hope you and your daughter doing well !

[@levanter143]

this case reminded me of something similar that happened in Greece a few years ago... there was a pilot who one night called the police crying bc burglars had broken in his house and he was worried about his wife and daughter that were on the second floor.. he was found tied up on the first floor and he claimed he called the police using his nose. His wife was found murdered and their daughter was sleeping next to her body. Everyone was grieving with him, we were so moved by what had happened to this guy's family. Turned out he was the one who had killed his wife and their dog and had staged a whole burglary. He even hid 2k euros to make it look like someone took them and he made a few failed attempts while calling the police on purpose to make it look he was struggling to use the phone bc he was tied up. The police arrested him during the wife's memorial where he was crying with his parents-in-law and his child in his arms. Her name was Caroline and he said he killed her bc she wanted a divorce...... Rip Natalie, Rip Caroline, Rip to every femicide victim. We will fight for you, your stories will be heard!

[@comfortme]

can’t imagine going from “i want a divorce” to “i have to kill her” like just ask her for a divorce??? how do you escalate to that

[@gailainsley6939]

@@comfortme That’s what I was thinking. I truly don’t get it. Why do they take it soo far?

[@dimpledsunflower]

@@comfortme it’s because She wanted a divorce, not him

[@bloodymetalangel287]

That sounds very similar to the Samantha Wolford case 😢. RIP to these people..

[@jlis889]

Sounds like the whole Christopher Watson case we had happen here a couple of years ago. Makes no sense 😔

[@nicorscadden]

Honestly I was so shocked that you covered this, in Northern Ireland we just feel so small I was almost surprised that you had even heard of it. But I’m so insanely glad that this case was able to get more publicity, because Natalie sounded absolutely amazing and her family are such kind and lovely people. My friend Odhran who lives around the corner from Natalie also passed away tragically on the 17th of December 2022. Odhrans parents and Natalie’s parents have become really close, supporting each other through their shared pain. I met Natalie’s parents when we had a celebration for odhrans birthday, and they said “the two of them are in paradise now, they are in a beautiful place now”. I thought this was so beautiful for them to say. Natalie’s parents were so brave and spoke so openly about her and what happened, and they were so kind and friendly through all of the pain they must have been feeling. You could tell how loving their family is and how amazing and independent Natalie was. Stephen has a special place in hell waiting for him. Thank you for always covering your cases with such respect.

[@arto9775]

I'm from portadown, lurgan has had a rough few years. That was brutal what happened to Odhrán..

[@yanniboo768]

Update?

[@charlys2584]

I've heard this case before on a German true crime podcast as well. It seems that it did garner a lot of attention internationally and Natalie's story was shared in other languages

[@avileaamarella7997]

When I was pregnant with my daughter, my own father has beaten me very badly and even kicked me multiple times in my stomach, crying to “get rid” of the child because I wasn’t married to my boyfriend… then I walked home, beaten and barely able to move to my boyfriend… who has only asked me “what have you done to piss him off so much!”… he also started to secretly drug me with strong codeine based medication (placed it in my food and drink multiple times) also trying to get rid of this child…. This was all over 5 years ago, I since has started a new life, far away from my dad and ex, building a new life steadily with my new partner and my 4 years old happy, healthy, strong and smart daughter who has just started her first school year this September. Ladies just remember: be careful whom you trust and be prepared to jump the boat on the first sign of red flags. It’s scary and hard, but handling life and hardships alone is better than being abused or killed. And always put your child’s safety and health first… Stay safe and strong everyone 🙏

[@Astara_star]

Omg 😳 I'm so sorry that you were abused by your father. That is terrifying! Thank goodness you got out and that your daughter is healthy 🙏

[@liveyourlifefree]

Oh my God! I thought you were telling what happened to you decades ago 😨 beaten up because you were not married to ur boyfriend? Somehow, I thought this things doesn't happen anymore... I'm glad you've made it out alive and save your daughter! Wish you all the best in your life ❤

[@professionalinsomniac8338]

@@liveyourlifefreeunfortunately sexism and misogyny are alive and well. 😞

[@crestfire8008]

I will never understand male hypocrisy. These bastards are against abortion but are okay will kicking and beating a pregnant woman to get rid of the baby

[@juliee593]

It's a miracle that you and your child are safe! Congratulations for rebuilding your life after all of this. I wish you the best.

[@superjuniorlover7899]

thank you Stephanie for covering this case, the fact that he premediated the murder and tried to fake an alibi...I'm at a loss of words

[@eveelee4152]

This right here and he thought he can get away with it is mind blowing

[@ebla4479]

@@eveelee4152 pop😊

[@manasvisharma2133]

Bt y did he murder her❓

[@tokyo4678]

He'll need a good lawyer. But even then with all the evidence, I don't think he's getting away with this one.

[@SavedJohn316]

I wonder if he killed his parents just going by some things he said on that video.

[@isahgirl6364]

that clip of her brother's statement completely shattered my heart... I'm so done with women being treated like they're below men, we deserve to be able to freely walk on this world as fearless as men do but yet here we are, fearing for our lives every single day I hope justice is served

[@DrivableNote]

And look what happened when they believe that... they end up shooting up a school... those poor kids and teachers just for a womans activist...

[@kittye8340]

It is unfair

[@RS-bn1ty]

Yeah let’s take the try guys situation, according to some rumors Ned has found work while Alex can’t, I could believe this in a heartbeat but for now it’s just rumors but the guy seems to never be at fault for anything whether it’s for cheating, R or literally anything. The woman is who gets judged the hardest.

[@practicingstoicism2048]

Lmfao women have more rights and privileges than men especially in modern society and you act like men don't have to constantly be on guard against other men and hell in certain situations we even have to be extremely weary of women part of being part of being alive is having to be aware of danger from literally everything

[@wdvnge]

Men should be protecting women. Its so sad this case….

[@fatdandelions]

The easiest way for Steven was to walk away : Be a deadbeat father. Natalie has a loving support system, her own family would support her (without Steven being physical present doing the bear minimum, the financial part). He could give up total parental rights too. Now he will suffer and think hindsight he was a loser and dumb. The dumbest decision he ever made.

[@myliza700]

Not only that but he's honestly too stupid to realize that he is going to be absolutely DESTROYED in prison. He will be the prison b*tch..... IF someone doesn't off him.

[@WLoz]

And he's still a deadbeat father

[@Nagitokomaedaaa]

Exactly!! This isn’t the right thing to do either, but at least he wouldn’t have murdered somebody!! Insane.

[@CandiceBear]

Even if someone gives up rights, at least in the States, you are still financially responsible until someone adopts the child.

[@winniethepooht5776]

​@@CandiceBearbut he would only have to send money, not be apart of the child's life. Besides, this is in Ireland, not the US. I'm not exactly sure how the laws work over there, but I don't think the same laws apply.

[@AllHailSp00nRiver]

I don't care if Natalie slept with the whole local football team and was pregnant with one of their kids. Maybe a reason to walk away from a relationship, but not an excuse for murder.

[@ks77157]

Exactly

[@dsdude8441]

@SleepyPlasma pretty obviously means that cheating is a good reason to end a relationship

[@effingcool1780]

@SleepyPlasma You would stay in that case? I know some are into cuckold and stuff, but normal people usually file for a divorce if their wife is pregnant with someone else's child.

[@dsdude8441]

​@SleepyPlasma I agree, there's no maybe about it.

[@Lizzifer7]

​@SleepyPlasmacheating can indeed be redeemed. Just depends on the things involved. Relationships and people are complex. Disclaimer i haven't cheated but know people that have recovered from it in their Relationship.

[@xXChandriaXx]

Wow.. This episode hits me different... I had a Partner for 9 Years before we both agreed to make a baby that we always wanted. The Time seemed right. Soon after that, i got pregnant. But everything in my Relationship changed. My Partner started to be Physical. 9 Years he never layd a Hand on me - ofc we had fights before , like every couple has, but nothing like this. He told me constantly how it was my fault bcs of my hormones and that i am the crazy one etc... After my Baby got born, it went worse and worse. There was one night where i thought he would kill me - infront of my child. After that i decidet to leave him. Best decision of my life! To this day i dont know what happend. I asked myself all these years what went wrong. Didnt ever get an answer - not sure if i ever will. But your explanation showed me that it looks like more people are affected by that then just me. For whatever reason. To everybody - no matter how long you where in a relationship - no matter if you are Married - if your Male Partner starts to get like that while you are pregnant, let me tell you: It will not stop once you have the Baby, nor will it stay like this. Its not your fault - no matter what your partner is telling you. And it will get worse. So Leave, as soon as you can and tell people in your Life. I know the thought of beeing a single mother is scary - it scared the shit out of me too. But you can do this! And you can do it so much better alone then with an abusive Partner. Stay safe

[@violet7773]

It's disgustingly common that partners become violent when their partner is pregnant. Maybe they think that their partner is tied to them now so they can show their true colours, i don't know. I'm sorry you went through that and so proud of you for getting out. I hope you and your baby have a wonderful life

[@Ghostface2252]

According to what other people have said, Steven had a history of being abusive towards his exs.

[@damien678]

Genuinely terrifying. I honestly wouldn't blame anyone for pretending to be pregnant to test a partner.

[@ssssshley]

I absolutely agree. I felt so dumb while I was pregnant with my baby because I realized sooooo many red flags during pregnancy. And my thread of tolerance for BS was getting thinner and thinner. And my ex partner verbally said that he hated that I was not submissive anymore. That is why I tell my sister and nieces of possible red flags with men and boys. I absolutely do not want them to experience what I did.

[@fatemad4012]

Feminine and caring men are good one for pregnancy musculine and violant men are risky

[@WildVee]

@@fatemad4012 That's a weird way of putting it. I don't think I would call caring men "feminine" lol, they're just men who are caring. Aka, decent human beings. And they can be masculine. Women can be just as abusive or violent, women can be kllers, does that make them masculine women? I don't think so, it just means they're abusive and violent.

[@fatemad4012]

@@WildVee these are faminine traits by societies nowadays standard nuturing kindness ...unless you changed the name of these standards

[@WildVee]

@@fatemad4012 I don't know man, calling a man feminine just because he's not abusive seems counter-productive and a little misandristic. A lot of men are non-violent. A lot of women are violent. It just seems weird to call them feminine if they're acting normal, lol

[@purrrrrrrple]

​@@fatemad4012feminine guys can be violent too, masculine guys can be caring, and don't try to victim blame "because she chose wrong" when the only one to blame is the one that's violent

[@nodiatay9241]

When my mom was pregnant with me, a woman tried to hit her with her car. My aunt was there luckily and pulled they women out of the car and handled the situation, my aunt went to jail that day haha but people are crazy and as someone who was recently pregnant, I am constantly looking over my shoulder when my and my daughter are in public. Thank you for covering this case love you steph

[@BabyMango]

Your aunt is a real one 😂

[@Gothchops]

Your Aunt was like "not my niece, biatch!" 🤛💪😂❤

[@biancaeranz]

ur aunt is so real for that

[@jiminjams52]

Similar thing happened to my mom when she was pregnant with me. My dad, sis and mom were in the car when my sister's mother/dad's ex tried killing my family by hitting her car into my dad's when my mom was in the 3rd trimester (?)

[@Spiritualpanda2]

@@jiminjams52 WHOAH! Im glad that you’re family is still here and you’re okay. Each year I get older, I realize that humanity disappoints me more and more. I grew up thinking others were as good natured as I was as a child… I was sorely mistaken. Also not saying I’m an angel, but I’m definitely no where near a demon. I like animals much more than people these days. 😢

[@lilianjames9722]

What he did was completely despicable. Thank you for bringing these cases to light Stephany. Cases like these that highlight that there is still predujices against women are the types of issues that we must find ways to resolve. Talking about it is the first step.

[@sipi2009]

Great comment and I completely agree.

[@dxylvs]

The people that are saying he killed her because she was pregnant my someone else doesn’t mean he should’ve murdered her and her son that is so fucking disgusting

[@ChloeIsCrazy]

exactly

[@crestfire8008]

Men 🍼

[@rinaliny]

It was his anyways. It was proved during forensics.

[@ReiAnikaAyanami]

of course a pregnant woman gets mvrdered and men find some way to place the blame on HER.

[@crestfire8008]

@@ReiAnikaAyanami don't you know??? The emotional instability of a pregnant woman full of several different hormones < a male with normal level of testosterone. Everything sets males off. They are far more emotional than a pregnant woman

[@virtualjayna]

The clips of the live infuriated me. The way he’s so nonchalant while talking about the future crime he would commit is bone-chilling. I hope Natalie gets the rest she deserves and I hope that her family can heal. 💕💕

[@xXprettyxkittyXx]

He’s another narcissist who didn’t deserve the people he had in his life. The way he acts is like one of those men who thinks he’s so a much smarter than everyone else around him when he’s really the dumbest mother fucker. A smart man would have killed in the first place.

[@jesek9631]

RIP Natalie, another absolutely heart breaking case. The clip of Natalie’s brother speaking towards the end is so sad, that poor family. I hope Natalie and her baby get the justice that they deserve. Those statistics are terrifying.

[@NJ69420]

These type of cases are heart - breaking to watch

[@Whocares158]

Another Pronatalist down the HellHole! 💌 😊🩷🩵

[@Lena-mt3ck]

I like how you focus more on victims in your videos. A lot of true crime channels tend to give a lot of time to the other side and forget what this is truly about - the crime and giving a tribute to life of the ones who have been hurt. So thank you Stephanie, that you give spotlight to the ones that matter.

[@julieoluna8887]

She also highlights the core of the issue at hand.

[@WildVee]

I love the way she humanises the victims. In a lot of true crime videos, you feel detached from the victims and the way it's described is so "matter-of-fact" that you just don't "feel" _too_ much for them. But with her channel and also Eleanor Neale's channel for example, they really describe the victim's lives and personalities and dreams and hobbies and it really makes you connect with the person. It's no longer "just another case", instead you really FEEL the horror and the deep-sinking reality of what occurred when their lives are taken away. You feel like they could've easily been part of your life or somebody you knew, and it shatters you more, plus it doesn't glorify the perpetrator, instead it makes you angrily want justice for the victim 10x more. I love the way they portray the cases, better than any documentary I've watched as well.

[@blaiseywaiseyriot]

@@WildVeethis was a great comment ❤

[@ruby-jl7rr]

@@WildVeei love steph and el so much i love how they take on an emphatic approach when talking about the victims, they relate to them and express a passion in their case and their lives, not only defining them as a victim but as a person and the fact they’re both don’t shy away from how the case makes them feel shows how they truly care, they create a feeling of heartbreak and vulnerability for the victims but also allow the viewers to relate to them, to humanise them it’s really beautiful

[@Jiminmy]

We live in such a scary world. Can you talk about the kidnapping of Alexandra Măceșanu and Luiza Melencu. It's such a sad case. The police failed Alexandra. She called the police 3 times but it took them 19 hours to do something. It was too late. Her calls are heartbreaking. UPDATE: 30.05.2023 Four years after the disappearing of the girls. He was sentenced to just 30 years for kidnapping, rape and murder... This is so so sad.. Alexandra was just 15 years old.

[@lunarnailsbydia7103]

Yes please 🙏🏻 I would love for the world to hear how corrupt Romania is

[@ehablix2531]

Yes pleaseeee

[@bloodymetalangel287]

Romania 🇷🇴 ❤my heart breaks for you.

[@manasvisharma2133]

Bt y did he murder her❓

[@Jiminmy]

@@manasvisharma2133 When he was arrested he admitted to killing the girls, but then he changed his statement denying the murders (he confessed to a cellmate that he was angry and beat Luiza to death and strangled Alexandra). In Romania there is a real problem with human trafficking and corruption. So many suspect that Dinca is lying to cover a human trafficking network and that the prosecutors who worked on Alexandra's disappearance intentionally delayed the raid on Dinca’s property. You can find more about this case on Wikipedia “Kidnapping of Alexandra Macesanu and Luiza Melencu”. I would love to hear your opinion on this case. Yesterday he was sentenced to 30 years in prison for kidnapping, rape and murder of the two girls...

[@ramatabaillet7149]

There was a similar case in France, the murder of Alexia Daval. Her husband declared her missing after she didn't come back from a run. Police found her body some time later in a forest. The murderer had tried to cremate her to make evidence disappear. The husband was crying in his in-laws arms in every public appearance from her disappearance to her burial, and the whole country was supporting him and painting him as this poor man whose soulmate had been murdered by a creep. Only for him to be the murderer.

[@wasteddemise2286]

Where did this happen

[@monow5197]

@@wasteddemise2286 they literally said france 😭

[@Barlibee]

People feel cheating deserves murder… it doesn’t!!! We all get cheated on its life and it goes on. Don’t have to take a life ! Sick.

[@missmis3ry]

right like it’s actually absurd how many dudes will comment on these cases of femicide or brutal violence against women saying something like “well was she cheating?” or “she was talking to other men” it’s ridiculous… not saying that this particular case involved cheating but even if she was cheating with like 10 other dudes that isn’t an excuse for abuse let alone murder.

[@Barlibee]

@@missmis3ry literally… men cheat and women don’t go around killing them but it’s always a double standard. People need to control their emotions.

[@courtneyc238]

@@missmis3ryalso hilarious bc the same guys saying that are the same ones who cover for their friends who cheat

[@lilywong9672]

@@courtneyc238 Also the same men who thinks it's OK for men to cheat because they have to spread their seed and it's in their nature.

[@Weedweaver0]

@@courtneyc238 same guys that say that also don't have any women

[@kairegelean7551]

I love this channel so much. The storytelling is so informative without treating the victim as just a case to be studied.

[@NamiNaeko]

I've always loved this about Steph! She cares 🥺❤️

[@nursenicole222]

I just found her a few days ago. She really has a gift at telling these stories.

[@a.evelyn5498]

Except when she did a Mukbang while discussing a brutal murder of a real person. Did she start this channel as she was torn apart for her inconsideration & blatant ignorance of what it truly means to suffer. It was just fun to shove giant prawns down her throat while trying to swallow enough so that she can deceive how the woman had her throat slit. You know? No grace. Came across this channel. This isn’t ethical either. Not only as I definitely think she sees this as entertainment that is boohoo so sad :( but she makes money from this. Any TC Influencer (worst term ever) is unethical if they are financially profiting. They can be as moral & ethical as seemingly possible. But financial gain immediately means a certain level of worse ethics.

[@eennaam1234]

I decided to give the channel another chance. But the abrupt ad break with the whole egg thing, when that was the victim's nickname (atleast change it for this episode) feels like there's no care for the victims at all...

[@V1DE0-STARZ]

@@eennaam1234She definitely cares about the victim.. what are you talking about?

[@candice1989]

This was really heartbreaking. These domestic cases are so hard. If they don't want the relationship or the pregnancy just leave dude. Nobody's forcing you to stay. I'm sure Natalie would've been able to handle life and motherhood without that idiot being involved. RIP Natalie 😢❤❤

[@manasvisharma2133]

Bt y did he murder her❓

[@s.tarlen]

​@@manasvisharma2133 he probably didnt want to be a father

[@WildVee]

@@manasvisharma2133 There's a lot of reasons, we'll just never know unless he says it outright. A lot of streamers or youtubers you watch are NOTHING irl like they are online. It's really easy to fake a persona for views and clicks. You never know what's behind closed doors, you don't know what these internet celebs are actually like in person. So, imho they either argued a lot but pretended everything was fine to everyone else, or he doubted he was the father & thought the baby was his from his ex (btw it was his baby, not the ex's), or he wanted to get revenge for something she did or said that we don't know about. There's a lot of reasons, but either way, *none* of them are right or justifiable. He could have easily left her and asked for a paternity test. But in my opinion, from the sounds of it he's probably bitter she had such a loving family and wanted to take that away from her, by ending her life.

[@modkip25]

@@manasvisharma2133 It probably hurt his ego and pride if he thought she was talking to another man, so he became vengeful and a monster.

[@natas3301]

Sweet ❤

[@marzvrover]

September 2023: - In March it came out that Stephen researched “most painful ways to die” weeks before the murder - The most recent date I’ve seen news mention is August 11. Hopefully that means the trial is soon

[@Kate-tk1bq]

The trial will begin September 2024

[@taxfraud6603]

​@@Kate-tk1bq damm :[

[@saralarsen2865]

Any further updates??

[@MissJoy16]

​@@saralarsen2865Just that he has pleaded not guilty and his trial starts this September

[@ciaran3629]

​@@saralarsen2865He's already lost his appeal the POS now the vermin just needs sentenced

[@nimblecannibal2741]

This guy was a big part of my teenage years when I really got into Doctor Who, to hear this is why he disappeared after that really weird live stream is haunting. She definitely deserved better my heart goes out to her family

[@JasmineAnahera]

Update as of 1st February 2024 Stephen McCullagh has plead not guilty to Natalie’s murder. The trial is provisionally set for September 2024 and the case will be reviewed again in March 2024. The courts recognised that this may not seem very fast at all for the friends and family of Ms McNally or for the defendant. "It is now over a year since Ms McNally's death but a trial in September 2024 is as fast as we can arrange," the judge said.

[@marjorie168]

I'm shocked to see better help on here. Haven't you seen how horrible they actually are? Selling people's info, hooking you up with non licensed "therapists" that might honestly answer your call while they're sitting on the toilet. People, mental health care matters but better help is not the answer.

[@BijinMCMXC]

That’s the most popular sponsorship lately so not surprising to me. I didn’t know they were a scam though. I guess Better Help is the new Established Titles lol

[@ghoultooth]

@@BijinMCMXC Better help being a scam has been known about on youtube long before established titles. I understand the need for sponsorships, but I feel that a sponsorship that takes advantage of mentally unwell or unstable individuals is disgusting. Especially given the context of Stephanie’s videos

[@BijinMCMXC]

@@ghoultooth Everybody doesn’t know Better Help is a scam and I don’t think she does. When you see so many big channels using the same sponsor (like express vpn for example) that makes it seem legitimate. It’s not right for you to insinuate Stephanie knew they were a scam but used them anyway because she needed the sponsorship.

[@sourgummiescureyourpain4555]

@@BijinMCMXC actually it's been known for more than a year that better help is shady af. There's been a huge scandal and tons of videos were made on it. Can't imagine anyone who spends any time on KZbin hasn't heard of it tbh.

[@BijinMCMXC]

@@sourgummiescureyourpain4555 Honestly I practically live on yt and never heard of it. I saw where a lot of ppl started exposing Established Titles as a scam and then everybody stopped using them as a sponsor. I personally haven’t seen anything like that about Better Help. The comments under this video is the first I’ve seen about it. That’s why I’m saying maybe she doesn’t know.

[@kixkicks139]

This is a tragedy that is experienced so much and goes unheard. Myself having been very close to reaching that statistic of murdered while pregnant by my at the time bf. He was already abusive. For years. He had relocated me far from family & friends. I found out I was pregnant and I was terrified to tell him bc I got the exact reaction I expected. The abuse ramped up. The demands increased. I was on bedrest from day one basically. As much as he didn’t want to be a dad, he refused to let me just leave him and that I’d never bother him for any coparenting needs. But he much rather have the control. Told me if I left him he would see id never have custody or he’d kill me. He’s tried multiple times to take her but thank god the judge knew better. Violence against women must stop. Men who abuse women should be held at a much higher charge. It should be at least doubled when the woman is pregnant. I want to fight and fight and fight until change is made. My child is now 6. We’re living safe and happy together. But despite all he’s done … he still get weekends with her that leave me in paralyzed fear until she returns. I’ve been forced to share my child with a maniac narcissist with severe control issues and abusive history. Because the courts somehow find that better for the child. It’s something I can’t accept. For those of us who make it out the relationship alive, it doesn’t mean it’s over. It doesn’t mean the trauma goes away. Healing is a process I have to start over every day bc ptsd won’t let me sleep The fact I have pure fear bc the court forces children to be in the career of domestic abusers, with history of drug use and untreated psychological disorders is unacceptable. I ask you all for support for these women and children. Do what you can. At the very least raises the voices of those fighting for activism and give your empathy. There’s never enough support for victims like this case and their families. Demand justice ! Sorry for my tangent. These type of cases always hit so close to home.

[@elifrost7890]

You're such a brave soul! Tremendous respect for your courage and spirit, I'm glad you made it out alive, not everyone strong enough to escape the grasp of the predator and you did the absolute best for yourself and the baby. You must be proud girl!🖤

[@Becca.-.]

Damn sorry to hear that. Hope you and your baby is doing well and continues to… ❤

[@gyozagumball]

This case also hits close to home for me too. Thank you for sharing your story. My mom was a victim of domestic abuse by my "dad". I don't consider him my dad but me and my two brothers are also victims. Considering how young we were it makes me feel like the system failed all of us. My mom told me when she was pregnant, he would get really violent...I have no words truly. I never knew my mom had gone through that much violence until I've grown up. I'm a child to a mother who didn't deserve any of that. I can't imagine how you feel because youre a mom but just know that when your kid grows up, she'll fight for you and what she believes in. Just like me. We're all so strong and connected. We're not alone and together we can bring justice because, in the end, our voices combined will be heard.

[@yesimarangel]

I’m so sorry you had to go through all that, and still am. I hope one day you can completely remove him from yours and your child’s lives. Stay strong, I sending you the biggest of good thoughts and prayers.

[@a.evelyn5498]

@Kix Kicks People now will say that women aren’t oppressed in any manner; they don’t face more violence than man. But statistics say otherwise. As do stories especially those brushed under the rug. I’m so sorry you experienced this.

[@keziah.johnson]

The minute you said he was "livestreaming" and also caught on cctv somewhere else, I knew this man probably used OBS to just play a video file. And the fact that he even said he can't interact with the chat should've been the first and BIGGEST indicator to authorities that this possibly wasn't a "live" video. UGH I was fuming listening and learning about this case but thank you so much for covering it!

[@mirabelss]

I love how you always introduce the victims, and dig in to their lives more because other youtubers would usually describe the lives of the murderers. ❤️

[@juliehoang1444]

😊😊😊

[@internetstranger-]

One of my biggest fear in life is ending up with a man like that.

[@pinkdevil8144]

I already listened to this and this story is so sad especially to Natalie’s family I hope their recovering well may Natalie and dean rest well❤️

[@deathbyphoenix3608]

As someone who had a baby’s a year ago, the increase in violence around pregnant women is 100% true, and it only gets worse when they come out. I got out thank god but it scares to think about “what if I hadn’t?”

[@aaliyahasani7359]

im glad you got out

[@TecTitan]

What sickens me about that is I would imagine the human reaction to a pregnant woman should be to be more careful and patient instead of violent. Anyone who can be violent to a pregnant woman doesn't deserve to be on the planet, that's so wrong

[@TsundeRea]

@@TecTitanit’s often partners that are already violent (maybe just verbally up to that point). The emotions and needs of a pregnant partner drive them crazy and they are more violent. It’s so sad. 😢

[@NDJunction]

@@TsundeRea i don't understand the violence. I was a "Stephanie" when my partner was pregnant :( its such a fragile and beautiful time. this makes me really sad and...very ill

[@TsundeRea]

@@NDJunction abusive narcissistic partners can’t handle not being the center of attention anymore. The pregnant partner has doctor visits, baby showers then another human to take care of. I’ve seen with my own eyes abusive partners attack their laboring or recently postpartum partner. It’s disgusting.

[@marsyedid666]

I’ve seen TikToks about this case but watching you go into detail it’s scary how far he went to cover his horrible actions. I got the chills watching his stream. May Natalie rest in peace she didn’t deserve this. Thank you for covering this story.

[@lynnettecapozio7327]

Dear Rotton Mango Thank you for speaking on behalf of the many victims who can not speak for themselves. What you do means so much to so many.

[@cuperoussulfide396]

I had been a long time viewer of Stephen McCullagh and he made up a lot of my childhood reviewing Doctor Who toys. Never in my wildest dreams will I ever hear that he’ll be this absolute monster that will not only take away a life of a Mother, but also rob her from her child. I don’t care if its alleged that he committed the murder, all the evidence points directly at him and if he’s found guilty, I hope absolute hell for the entirety of his life. I hope justice is serve for Natalie and her unborn baby, and I hope all women does not have to fear for both their lives and baby all for the satisfaction of male degeneracy.

[@SMNC-mf4fb]

This case deeply effected people of N.Ireland, because we are such a small country a lot of us are connected to the people in this case somehow , like My sisters bf went to school with Stephen, and my ex bf used to play COD with him, So I was genuinely so shocked that someone could do something so evil especially someone I’ve personally spoken to on many occasions through Xbox live chat with my ex. My heart breaks for Natalie and her family, I didn’t know her but from the things I’ve seen across social media from the people who did, she sounds like such a sweet loving caring person and it saddens me so much that such a lovely person could be just taken away.

[@igifra4278]

I love your dedication in not portraying these people just as victims. They were real people with a life, a family, a kind heart, and we should remember them that way. Keep it up, we love you

[@lexynicole1867]

The emotion you put into making these videos about these cases is what keeps me coming back. I feel that most KZbinrs make videos about true crime and they don’t even act like they truly care about the cases they are covering and the people affected. Thank you for putting so much work into researching not just the cases but the victims and how it affected them. I can always hear the emotion in your voice when you’re talking about these cases. It is all very very much appreciated.

[@frontios1014]

I was at the live stream at the time, and at the time I didn't notice the signs. But when I saw big youtubers talking about him and what he did, I couldn't believe it. Until I looked deeper to see the evidence myself. And now, I feel completely uncomfortable about this man that I loved watching semi regularly for seven years at that point in time. I hope the family will get justice for what he did.

[@mayflower2503]

I appreciate how you cover this story so delicately. I’m currently 6months pregnant and feeling super vulnerable, my heart aches for this beautiful woman, her precious baby and loving family.

[@heatherteem6738]

My abusive ex husband got so bad during FIVE of my pregnancies. I lost every one of those babies. And then it was like a sick game. Some men are just evil.

[@fatemad4012]

How did you lost them?

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

​@@fatemad4012 how the fuck dya think?!!?

[@_SunscreenQueen_]

I’m so sorry. I’m proud you are out of that situation

[@kittenme8845]

Im so sorry 😢

[@Zookiethecrimecookie]

​@@fatemad4012 Miscarriage probably, but I don't know.

[@kaih4073]

Your story telling is immaculate. I have a big test tomorrow and i’m studying right now and you really have calmed my nerves by taking my mom off of this test a little bit. Love you stephanie ❤️

[@ferrypanda]

How dare your mom be on your test! Lol jk. I hope you do wonderful on your test today!😊

[@moonsigil]

your mom 😂

[@van.g.9047]

Can we appreciate Stephanie doing this right after her teeth extraction, your commitment is insane, Thanks for the episode!🥰

[@buttermilkbob2370]

If you don't these kind of commitment you won't have food on the table.

[@manasvisharma2133]

Bt y did he murder her❓

[@buttermilkbob2370]

@@manasvisharma2133 I'm guessing she was pregnant with her ex or another man or he was just psycho. Either way the world's fucked up.

[@britnysnyder4991]

​@@buttermilkbob2370Stephanie isn't hurting for money

[@buttermilkbob2370]

@@britnysnyder4991 yeah she's hurting for you.

[@sharinettegonzalez23]

Can you talk about the murder of Keishla Rodríguez in Puerto Rico? She was murdered by boxer Felix Verdejo and it’s been a very high profile case in the island since 2021. You have a talent for telling stories, and I know you can bring light to this case properly.

[@Mommy2Amaya]

The fact that statistically women are more likely to have intimate partner violence start during pregnancy is true. My daughter’s father abused me for the first time when I was 7 months pregnant

[@lindsaywells5225]

Red flags?

[@Mommy2Amaya]

@@lindsaywells5225 just being a mean drunk

[@neenbeancasserole]

Hearing the statistics at the end was wild, and your closing statement was incredible. You said it all and then some, Stephanie. Thank you for covering this one.

[@airangel3291]

Thank you Stephanie for bring attention to these cases. Violence against women is an epidemic and it’s terrifying. My heart breaks for this family and I hope justice is served. Also thank you for always putting links for helping causes mentioned in videos. It means a lot to us ❤

[@lovediesfaster]

They should invest more to have good CCTV cameras.. the clear ones . Also this is really disturbing.. that poor girl and her baby .. both of you rest in peace.

[@maimclovin3696]

I totally agree with you

[@strudelh]

Right, tbh a lot of CCTV cameras are never clear, the quality is always so bad.

[@maimclovin3696]

@@strudelh exactly, especially those who take snapshots like every 3 seconds. And the ones with 3 pixels per image 🤪

[@maimclovin3696]

@@strudelh imagine a world with FULL HD cctv every public place! With face tracker! Crimes would drop tremendously 🤓

[@blackbear7624]

@@strudelh i forgot what country it was but on one of Bozo vs the world channel there is this case of a man murdering a girl he met online and the cctv footage was crystal clear like literally so very clear

[@KoalaHugs]

The statistics of dying from labor complications is scary high. So, it's terrifying it's even higher to die due to intimate partner violence.

[@whitepearlreaper]

Dude is fucked up, it sounds like he was having a ton of fun making this alibi. That's so sickening.

[@helovesalee]

this case was so sad ☹️ i can’t imagine how sad and heartbroken natalie’s family was.

[@gmnativepride94]

I’ve been listening to your podcasts for the past 6 months and I have been forever hooked! I am a senior nursing student and I commute between home and school quite often. My drive either way is an hour and a half, which is conveniently the average length of your episodes 🤭 Your passion for these stories is incredible and I can always hear how deeply you felt for the victims. You have gotten me through this last semester of school, truly!! I love that I get see physical evidence now, it really was emphasizes the impact of these cases. Thank you for everything Stephanie 💕

[@bunn1bab1]

thank you for always putting in so much work for us ! i really appreciate your videos :)

[@MinYoongis_tangerines]

I can imagine how they feel. My big sister is pregnant rn and she will give birth next month. This is the second grandchild of our family and my first niece and I would be obsolutley devastated if this happened to her. Thank u for covering this story.

[@almosttogether1776]

💛thank you as a DV survivor I can attest that the violence started in one of my relationships when I was diagnosed with cancer the first time round because I was not able to call talk or go out or do the normal things we did my back was fractured due to my paying him not enough attention and his words " I NEVER PUT HIM FIRST !" a injury I still live with as a ER trauma nurse and army medic it can happen to anyone not just women but a large figure does I can also say yes to the increase in violence to pregnant women as I treat them in my hospital. not at the moment as I am fighting my second battle with cancer. But i am single and grieving natalie and Dean deserved the world and more. If guilty i refuse to use his name vile human in prison he will not have a great time as many inmates find this crime unacceptable. 💛

[@emeliedeery5651]

I live in the area. I’ve never felt quite as disturbed as when my mum pointed to the street where he lived. I’ve driven by there a thousand times, it’s only a five minutes away from my own house. It’s chilling realising how close evil can be

[@his0kath295]

bringing up the point that if you listen to stories like this that you should try to make a change is so so important. i love that this channel discusses that and gives places to donate to, but also that its so victim focused. not a lot of pages are like that at all. sending all the love and healing to Natalie's family and anyone going through something similar.

[@Michelle-tj2gk]

why are so many men so violent to especially pregnant woman? it‘s actually unbelievable.

[@BoatsBigDay]

They feel like the woman is less likely to leave them now that they’re tied together through a child, so they drop whatever mask they had up and let their real selves out. That’s in the case of relationships, outside of that I have no idea but it’d be interesting to find out

[@rlmarissacooper]

watching this on Mother’s Day hits harder. Justice for Natalie and for all the women struggling ❤

[@zizixoxo4732]

This is crazy! How do you think of something like this, people are sick. I’m so glad you do stories like this I haven’t heard or seen of this case at all. I hope the family gets justice ❤

[@zadiemae4024]

stephanie i love hearing you guys voices🥺 that may sound weird but you guys are just so sweet and wholesome i can’t get enough

[@annettejones1163]

They should have tape recorded those 20 minutes he had alone with her. What a sick sadistic evil dude. She knew him for so short a time. He would have been on my radar as guilty.....ALLEGEDLY!

[@NFX]

The cryptic messages in his video really creep me out. This guy planned it all in his head and has 0 remorse. What a freaking monster, it drives me so mad!! Natalie, her child, and the family didn't deserve to meet this horrible fate ... 😞 My mother was 20 years in a DV marriage and when me and my siblings grew older, we helped her to dump my loser father. Today she lives a peaceful life and we take good care of her. So, please if you suffer from DV, PLEASE reach out for help and leave this toxic person, stay safe ♥

[@Bunny-n6h]

Thank you Stephanie for covering this case. It hits super close to home because a month ago my cousin who was three months pregnant got murdered by the person who impregnated her. My family is grieving and at a loss of words and it’s a really sad time in general for me. I love watching your video and it brings a little light on my bad days. I hope you are doing well ❤ I love you biss

[@flynt5856]

im so sorry for your loss. i hope you and your family can heal and your cousins murderer gets the justice they deserve. take care of yourself

[@marchionesslea4177]

condolence but did you guys get the justice? (hoping you got the justice)

[@ujika8164]

How do you manage to make me cry on every episode of Rotten Mango?😭 This channel is excellent.

[@Alexis-bm9kr]

Infidelity is never an excuse for murder, ever!!! 🤬

[@Alexis-bm9kr]

An insecure man will always use that as an excuse

[@fatemad4012]

I think he was more sociapath he doesn't want to take responsibility

[@RS-bn1ty]

Usually the significant other in the US will always be the first suspect and most of the time it’s them. It’s scary to think about someone you think you’re so in love with would hurt you. It’s sickening Edit: btw that little clip you showed of him streaming in the beginning was so odd to me how he described the blood

[@stephaniedarden9343]

The way you honor the victims while sharing their stories is beautiful.

[@icarus4302]

This entire case is such a horrible tragedy, but I'm glad you included the statistics. Did y'all know 1/3 of ALL USA crimes are women being hurt by men in some way? Let me repeat that. ONE THIRD OF ALL CRIME IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, is a women somewhere out there being hurt in a variety of ways by a man. It is a disgusting statistic that is on the rise, and it's time we stop it. Ladies, be safe. Don't just be aware at night, don't just carry pepper spray and learn self defense, it's sad and I don't want to say it, don't trust any man around you. Research your male family members, ESPECIALLY research your new partners, don't go anywhere without telling someone you trust EXACTLY where you are going, EXACTLY who you're with, full name and all, and EXACTLY what time you'll be there and when you'll be home. If you get a bad vibe, ALWAYS trust your gut. Stay safe and rest in peace to Natalie and the baby 🕊️

[@NerNers1660]

This is amazing to see you cover something so close to home as it was such a shock for the whole of N. Ireland when this happened I remember the morning it was released on the radio as I was driving to a hospital appointment in Belfast it was so sad.. Been a fan and watched you over 6 years 🙃😊

[@cyndit9208]

I just recently found you and I’m so glad. Your content is simply incredible. Thank you for covering these stories. I don’t get a lot of content regarding other countries. I appreciate the diversity. Hope you feel better soon.

[@punkbabylrh]

i noticed that being able to see pictures and videos makes these cases so real.

[@danigutierrez600]

Listening to this case, I remembered an open case in Chile, Antonia Barra and her attacker Martin Pradenas. The amount of rage this chilean case makes me feel is so big, and the victim suffered so much and was blamed many times for what happened to her... so sad. I wish you could cover it. I can help with translations, since I am a chilean citizen myself. as always, thank you for covering cases and trying to get some justice for the vitcims.

[@tiffanymolina1285]

It’s always so painful to see how a family suffers after their loved one is taken

[@katrinascarlet5637]

We wanted to see if our dog would do anything so hubby "threw me around" and she actually bit him! Even though he's her favorite parent. The next week we attempted the reverse and no matter how many times I "threw him around" she didn't move, she complained loudly but she didn't lift a paw. Maybe it's because I'm the one who trained her or maybe she's just smart enough to know I literally couldn't win the fight if I tried.

[@censor-bar]

Yeah its shocking that the dog didn't even bark.

[@damien678]

She's a girl's girl

[@KAIBAILIJA]

I just watched your other video and realized you made a new one. I love your channel and thank you for making these videos! ❤❤

[@amandamccollough1153]

I absolutely love how you tell the story from the point of view that makes you there. My grandmother a native Cherokee story teller would have loved to hear you.😊

[@nvardgambaryan654]

Your voice is so calming! I love your podcasts i started listening to on spotify. You are so gentle and empathetic and you do so detailed reviews its like gossiping and discussing stories with a best friend! thanks for being!! keep going

[@brandilucas297]

Girl, it's hard for me to watch other true crime channels now that I've been listening to you. Your sweet voice and effortlessly charismatic delivery just makes the stories seem less horrific...gives me less heeby jeebies. Thank you for supporting the causes that you do and for bringing awareness to issues like violence against women. You're amazing

[@helga5544]

This story broke my heart so much. I hope more people get to see this, thank you for doing a great job in coming up with this material. Rest in peace Natalie & Dean and all the love to their family and loved ones.

[@SAGIRL-hb8bt]

Thank you Stephanie, as a victim of gender violence, your videos, although triggering, are SOOO NECESSARY. Here in South Africa, 1 in 3 women will be r##ed or a#used. Even babies. Police don't seem to do much, but communities issue mob justice in the worst of the cases.

[@sophiahercules2054]

I found your channel through a random comment left on a random TikTok video about Abby Choi, and I’m obsessed! Can’t wait for more videos!!

[@herecomesthemoon6938]

Told my friends this case today and he said he knew Steven but they were never friends. He just hung out with ppl who Steven also hung out with. One of his friends hated Steven so much that he even set up a group chat composed of ppl who also hate Steven. And they would be leaving hate comments on Steven’s videos on KZbin. He said Steven was a freak and he’s even controlling around friends. He dated another girl before Natalie and he was quite abusive towards her both verbally and physically, which led to her breaking up with him in the end. So he hadn’t heard anything about Steven for 5 yrs until one day one of friends in England suddenly rang him in jan this year, telling him that Steven was arrested for murdering his girlfriend.

[@Alicentdollie]

Her brother's statement absolutely broke my heart...I can't imagine how much pain you feel after your sister died bc of a sicko :/

[@Atrasimi]

I’ve heard of this case in one of those collection of murder story videos, so I never knew the depth of how utterly tragic this story was. It’s so incredibly disgusting to know such a full-hearted woman with such a wonderful family that loved her so fiercely was taken, along with her unborn son, by someone who was only in it for such a short amount of time. It’s so despicable that this man seems to be wholly uninterested in the path that was set for him and instead of just stepping away from it or saying it was too much (because clearly his life wasn’t all sunshine and roses) he decided to make it worse. May the victims and their family find peace.

[@Hyelee6714]

I feel so proud of stephanie and the whole team, I just entered the podcast page and omg how neat and organize everything is. It gives my little anxiety brain so much peace

[@lilash6041]

Love how you look so connected to the families and victims. You're such a great person.

[@mossydreamz]

the instances of abuse going up when a partner is pregnant is WILD, it's so sick, it makes me think also of how it's something like 5 times more dangerous when you (try to) LEAVE an abusive partner, most DV-related homicides happen after the victim tries to get out, or takes measures like calling the police or filing a protection order.

[@tiffanyvoerman]

Rest in Peace Natalie. I really appreciate the emotions you showed at the end of this video because it reflects how so many women are feeling. We need for this violence to come to an end. I don't know how to do it, but I know people with a platform, speaking as passionately as you just did, is a really good place to start. Sending love to you and of course to Natalie's family.

[@ameliore7]

I’m so proud of your growth ❤️ I love this channel just as much!! The intro is so good omgg 😮‍💨

[@chryseophir3163]

RIP Natalie. Ireland is a small community and generally neighbors still knows each other. Cases like this hits home and unfortunately cases involving woman violence keeps happening.

[@amandaamaro8989]

Just looked into this and the trial isn’t even until September of this year..justice for Natalie

[@filippareuter]

I love you’re Account! please keep this going! so many people appreciate that you’re so good at making those videos and how respectful you are to all victims🙏🏼❤️

[@JohnWayne-86ed]

I seen your video thumbnails before but never watched one until recently and I love your content! You're a good, detailed story teller🤘

[@misav3]

Hey stephanie!! I wanted to recommend a case, but I'm not sure if it's too graphic. It's called Beanbag Adventures. A Chinese Douyin user, exploring an abandoned area and he finds bodies.

[@kim_lisa2061]

Did she cover it?

[@courtneyann742]

The problem is unless the police have DNA evidence they’re not telling people about, there’s nothing placing him at the scene of the crime. All they have are assumptions and vague CCTV footage that doesn’t show his face. That’s a problem. Legally speaking, picking apart someone’s words on livestream doesn’t prove anything either unfortunately. Hopefully the cops have something solid.

[@destined2bebossy]

Thats exactly what I was thinking. My fiance watches those video game streamers and that's how they talk. They definitely need something big

[@itsalwaysteatime3803]

You clearly didn't watch the whole video

[@olgar.6604]

There is a high chance that they do since Natalie is said to have been fighting back so maybe she has got some DNA under her fingernails. All in all, I think it's not any piece of evidence that is particularly strong but what is daming is the quantity of evidence that link stephen to the crime.

[@Lilly-px5qw]

Exactly my thoughts. I don't think he's innocent but there isn't enough evidence to legally put him in jail. I'm pretty sure police has more evidences,they wouldn't arrest if they didn't.

[@sarads7877]

wasn't he caught on CCTV leaving the exact road natalie lived on? and we know it was him cause right afterwards, the taxi driver picked him him and dropped him right back at his house? i don't know, i think that's pretty solid evidence that he went to her house.. while wearing multiple pairs of gloves and hiding his identity...

[@lolafierling2154]

I love you content. You're one of the few "true crime" channels i don't find to be super unethical. So it really bums me out that you're endorsing better help. I'm really happy you've had a good experience with them but they are known for shady practices and have done real harm to voulerable people reaching out for help. I work in the mental health field and worry that better help often does more harm than good along with discouraging people from getting help in the future. 😢

[@elcie04]

Except for the mukbang one

[@heauxkage5611]

Agreed

[@Gray_area.]

she has to know. she liked comments farther down than comments abt better help, she deletes comments abt them, keeps taking their sponsorships, she doesn't gaf abt peoples mental health. ppl are fooled so easily by her..

[@sebastianalexander5564]

​@@Gray_area.Agree, fake..and her friend is is damn beta wowing her storys...his "what" and " oh my god" ..are so annoying.. would not miss her if shes gone from youtube

[@snappytom2447]

​@@sebastianalexander5564jesus, this is morbid thought

[@PuppySprinkles-]

Stephanie not better help 😭😭 I can't trust them when my manipulative, narcissistic, verbally abusive mother is a therapist on there

[@vedalakshmi2407]

I could literally listen to Stephanie talk for hours and hours

[@isabellesim1]

Thanks you for your hard work as always Stephanie❤