Rough Inlets on Florida's ICW E50

[@Matt_from_Florida]

I watch 4 or 5 boating channels but really like the fact that you two always seem laid back and relaxed compared to the others. You take the knocks and unexpected things in stride to the point that I know you will; which allows me to sit back, relax and enjoy.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We try to be relaxed about things. Once in a while we get stressed, but I always think, an hour (or a day) from now you are going to be laughing about this.

[@michae8jackson378]

I love the tracks and google Earth pics of where you go, the harbors! Great!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks!

[@DriveSafeDon]

It’s amazing watching your journey that when you’re in water so clear and then come up by Melbourne satellite Beach or Coco the water turns to toilet bowl water in the ICW makes me sick because I live here and see it all the time too bad it couldn’t stay clean all the time definitely enjoyed your video. 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are glad you enjoyed the video! It is funny how the weather changes the water as well. When we got to the Keys it was raining and the water was murky. A couple days later it was crystal clear.

[@nashguy207]

another great part of the trip. I am really enjoying this series of videos looking forward to the next one. Have a great day!!!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are glad you enjoy the videos!

[@benparker6825]

I have enjoyed watching so many of your video posts. It is almost like I get a "free" vacation for a few minutes each week! Just wanted to let you know that I have noticed and appreciated the improvement and the quality of each video as you have progressed! I know that background music annoys many viewers, but I love what you are blending in on these......it really puts me in a good space at the end of the day. All the best to you!!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you enjoy the videos! I am starting to put a little more effort into the editing now that our viewership has grown. We recently bought a new camera and hope to do a better job recording next season.

[@richardbohlingsr3490]

Thanks for sharing. Nice town to spend some time in. Happy sailing.

[@michae8jackson378]

Just found your channel, saw the trailer and love what you’re doing! I am a former biz person, chased my dream and became an airline pilot. Now I teach pilots to fly biz jets in Orlando. Wife is a retired teacher. We want to get a Nordhavn and do the E coast and Caribbean. We live in Cocoa, FL. On the Indian River, west side in northern most Cocoa. Cool that you were just here!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We love the Norhavns. It would be a great choice for East Coast and Caribean. We would love to have that kind of range. The only complaint we have about our Hatteras is the engines are much bigger than we need for our type of cruising. We always have fun in Cocoa. We just wish they had a dinghy dock.

[@yumpinyiminy963]

New Smyrna looked like a nice little town to hang in and can't beat that slip price! Nice Video!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It was nice. We will definitely go back.

[@dentman67]

I got busted up pretty bad right where you were, on a wave runner back in 94. It was a long flight back to South Jersey. I really enjoy your videos, thanks for sharing. Happy travels.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you liked the video. More to come!

[@hotrodhog2170]

Sweet! Another great tour! Y'all coming up on 10k subs pretty soon! I really enjoy the nice leisurely flow of your vids. Thanks for sharing them with us.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are glad you enjoy the videos! We plan to celebrate when we hit 10k!

[@seatravel8536]

Great narration on the waterway as well as good places to checkout

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you liked the video.

[@ronsummerill2496]

What a lovely way to live, happy sailing.x

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We love it!

[@RonnFolk]

Juniper inlet is crazy at times. I have brought our 36 carver mariner thought there a few times.

[@dixondjallen6620]

I go in and out at Ponce Inlet several times a month. 2017 Dusky252, 2 Suzuki 200's. It can get a little sketchy at times but not really threatening. If not Ponce, I go thru the lock at port Canaveral. Long boat ride to get there though. I live in New Smyrna Beach...Fish offshore but right now waiting...patiently for the manta ray/ cobia migration along the beaches. Here fishy fishy fishy...lol Nice video, thx man!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We just passed through your area. Ponce Inlet was a bit rough. We are currently in Bahamas.

[@ArchanaOConnor]

really enjoyed this video thanks guys looking at the food i am hungry

[@robertwilliams1313]

I live in NSB. Cork screw is great. Many great places to explore over on beachside next time you make it back. Norwoods and the garlic are two highly recommend restaurants. Love the docuseries you guys make.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We have never been to the beach side. We plan to do that next time. We are glad you liked the video.

[@SOFLBOY]

Another great episode! Thanks for sharing 👍

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you liked the video.

[@waynemcphail7825]

I have a Hatteras, love your video and the feedback on the restaurants. Have a safe trip.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you liked the video!

[@cncprogrammer3265]

Current can run pretty good in inlets at certain parts of the tide cycle. I think the Florida ICW is really a fantastic thing. I have never gone the entire length but have done sections of it. For somewhat smaller vessels than Triton, it's a nice protected and scenic inland waterway. New Smyrna is a very nice little town. I enjoy going there.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We enjoy the Florida ICW as well. When we have the time, we like to use it.

[@rodstanley881]

Great video boating is lots of fun

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you liked the video.

[@hoss1003]

Hey Guys, Great Videos. Got a question for you. Why do you prefer a rear cabin cruiser? Doesn't it make it hard to fish or board to and from the dinghy? Oh, Your speed to RPM, as you may already know, will change with new bearings and balanced propeller and shafts along with the new bottom paint. But, if you are also running "with" the incoming or outgoing tide, you will gain speed. Sometimes I'll gain 5 to 8 knots running with the tidal flow. Thanks and have a great and pleasant journey, see ya'll later.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Neither us are big on fishing. Although Lyn will cast a rod on occasion. We like having a large aft cabin and would rather have that then a cockpit.

[@Nobamaable]

Great videos guys...I was wondering if you miss being able to do 20 - 25 knots on your Carver versus the slow 12 knot cruise on the beast? My wife and I would like to move up to a trawler but I need to have a "fast trawler" or one that does around 18 - 20 knots cruise....just me preference since I think I would pull my hair out a 10 knots...our current boat goes 35 knots, so I need a compromise.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yes, we do miss the speed sometimes. The Hatteras will do about 17 knots but it burns through fuel so fast we never do it. After a while you get used to 10 knots., For some reason it does not feel as slow on the Hatteras. On the Carver it would drive me nuts. We tend to use the Hatteras differently. I sit back and read, or use the laptop. Lyn cooks and goes on the internet. We set auto-pilot, and just glance up from time to time (while in the Ocean). On the Carver, I was always at the wheel and it was too bumpy to do much else. On the upside, we got to our destinations in half the time.

[@brnmcc01]

CG Max for a trawler or more properly a displacement hull design, you would need a waterline length of about 150 feet to be able to run 16 knots. The downside of that would be the boat would weigh so much you'd burn a ton of fuel, not to mention you'd have a really hard time cruising the ICW and trying to find a dock or a slip to accommodate something that big. Run into problems with shallow areas, Ed can tell you how much fun it is to get a tow off a sandbar in the middle of the night lol.

[@Nobamaable]

01 You should do some more research...there's plenty of trawlers out there that do over 16 knots and they are way under 150 ft. The Beneteau 35 does around 27 knots...Grand Banks is another...plenty of them out there...not sure where you get your bad data?

[@Nobamaable]

Your quite the tool...who cares!

[@Dr.J_theCPA]

Thanks again for sharing

[@tryingnottosink9107]

You are welcome!

[@HighwayStar70]

Great Videos...What the info on your yacht...what year is it and size? How much does it draw when fully fueled?

[@brnmcc01]

There's a video on this channel that has a tour and he goes over all the specs etc.

[@vetterfellow]

Crazy strong current, The Hues Corporation = ( A Music Group ) " Don't rock the Boat, Don't rock the boat Baby, Rock the boat, Don't tip the boat over !!! ".... HA HA !! Underway again !!! :-D Thank you Skipper and Skippet fer D - video.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

You must be as old as me quoting that song! Glad you liked the video.

[@dixondjallen6620]

That was haulover canal where all the manatees where. It's an area where they go to breed. No idea why they go there though...

[@erichammond9308]

The USCG describes the requirements for heavy weather or surf station as six foot breaking bar or greater than 10 foot seas within 12 miles of shore on more than on 10% of days per year. (That's 36.5 days per year) That the Coast Guard doesn't have any heavy weather or surf stations in Florida indicates that there are no truly rough inlets in Florida. Try going through the inlets on North Carolina's Outer Banks on a breezy day.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Rough is a relative term. We never go to the Outer Banks inlets. However, back then, we considered it rough.

[@erichammond9308]

@@tryingnottosink9107 absolutely relative! There's "rough, to the average boater" and "rough, to those of us who are or have been USCG surf station crewmen" 🤣 20 foot seas in a 44foot Motor Life Boat? Sounds like fun! When do we go? 🤪

[@patrickleahy770]

Love your videos........ Gotta ask, what is the yellow female end extension cord for?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

It was there when we bought the boat. I saw an old photo and there was a CRT type monitor up there back in the 80s. I think that is what the cord is from.

[@gregsullivan8956]

Enjoy you voyages! I do!!!!!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. We are glad you like the videos!

[@woodycheshire8079]

With as many viewers as y'all have, you should do guest shows. Compare and contrast voyages, meet likeminded locals, dinners with patreons. That being said, say hi when you get to Daytona/Smyrna. I know you post late I probably missed you.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We would like to do shows like that but are not sure we have the viewership yet. We just started our Patreon Page and a Facebook page earlier this summer. We were happy to have been recognized by about a dozen people at the Annapolis Boat Show. Perhaps we are getting there. :-)

[@johnmorgan6954]

What are you guys doing with the Carver? Seems like it would be expensive to keep 2 boats not to mention hard to use both.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

When we are not using it we rent it out as an AirBrB. It more than pays for itself.

[@ryanh4889]

Maybe I am confused. You are heading north for the winter? Or is there a time delay for when you post videos?

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Yes, the videos were recorded a few months ago.

[@hoptimistvibes]

Can you explain the significance of running at different RPM's in different waterways? Is 1200 RPM's where your engines are most efficient? How fast do you go once the bridges are open and how long do they generally stay open for you to pass? Sorry for all the questions! Cheers!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We believe our engines are most efficient between 1200 and 1250 rpms. We do not know exactly where. We are planning to install a fuel monitor system eventually. There is one on board but it is from the 80s and no longer seems to work. We go as fast as 1250 rpms will take us. Typically between 8 and 11 knots per hour, depending upon current. Once in a while we open her up to blow out the engines, somewhere near 1700 rpms. When going through a bridge we go at idel speed, 500 rpms, around 5 knots per hour. The bridges will stay open as long as it takes for everyone to get through. It is usually just a couple of boats waiting. Often it is just us. Some will open any time a boat shows up. Busier bridges have schedules, usually every half hour or hour. After a while you learn to time yourself to the bridges. No sense wasting fuel, only to get there too early and sit at idle.

[@brnmcc01]

Zmergy, It's hard to pin down efficiency, if you're talking gallons per hour, or gallons per horsepower hour. The proper term is brake specific fuel consumption. These engines are the most efficient at around 1600-1650 rpm, if you're talking only about getting the most horsepower out of every drop of fuel. Of course, you'll burn WAY more fuel per hour at 1650 versus 1250, but, you're not wasting as much out the exhaust or into the cooling water.

[@brnmcc01]

Ed, I've been doing some research in my spare time, I've found some old brochures on the Detroit Diesel 8V92 from around that time frame (very early 80's). I think those engines you have might actually be rated super high, like 750+ horsepower at 2350 rpm. That was and still is pretty common practice for boat builders to buy smaller engines, then "soup" them up for planing/semi displacement hulls. The standard rating for the 8V92 I'm more familiar with is "only" 450 hp by comparison (rating for dump trucks, standby gensets etc). Ok, the interesting part I found in that brochure was the 8V92TTA (twin turbo after-cooler) which what I think is the model you have, was actually originally called the "Fuel Miser". This special twin turbo version was rated at 365 hp at 1650 rpm, but the interesting thing is the horsepower curve then remained flat up to rated speed (2200 rpm or so). The brake specific fuel consumption curve was lower than the other 2 models of 8V92. What might be an option for you guys is contact Detroit and give them the model and serial number of both of your engines. They can tell you the time of day they left the plant, and every detail down to the paint color they left with. If you do have the 8V92TTA, ask them what would be involved in rerating them back to the standard 365hp fuel miser spec. I think it might be just swapping out the injectors, but might Hatteras might have put custom camshafts too, hard to tell. Also you need to get the power curve for your props, if they're set up for 700+ horsepower each, that's a bit large for running at 1250 rpms. The other concern I have is if the previous owners actually regularly ran that boat up on plane, and ran hard sometimes at 2350 rpm, at 3000 hours you're way overdue for new bearings, piston removal and inspection, and checking the liners for pitting etc. They recommended a full overhaul like every 2000 hours running at that 750+ hp spec. One of the worst thing with those '92s is if people didn't use the correct coolant with the correct SCA, the liners get pitted from the tiny bubbles collapsing on the block side, since they have "wet" liners. The original idea with twin turbo on the 8V92TTA was the flat horsepower/rpm curve and fuel efficiency, not more power. Hatteras took advantage of there being two turbos there and used it to wring more power out of less engine weight. Now if you want to keep the ability to run on plane for fun etc, leave things be. However if you want to get the max fuel efficiency at slightly less than hull speed, then the best thing is to rerate the engines back to 365, and choose exactly the right prop that will match the engine output curve. Then you wont ever need to run more than 1650 rpm, because thats max hp already.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks for all the information. It would be great if they could be tuned down to 365HP. I do not need the extra power. I always wished the boat came with 8v71s instead. Here are the specs, according to my survey: Detroit Diesel Port: 8082-3300 Starboard: 8082-7300 Port: 8VF32116 (on file) Starboard: illegible 550 horsepower at 2300 RPM PROPELLERS: Nibral 4-blade 30" x 30" SPARE PROPELLERS: 2 4-blade

[@brnmcc01]

Trying Not To Sink Do you have an email you could PM me? I looked up that one serial number, it was made in late 1978. 1979 MY started production with serial number 08VF34236.

[@kevinp100]

I love how you complain when restaurants close at 10. I’m in my 30s and think 10 is reasonable. Keep up the good videos and party on!

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We often get to port around 7:00. By the time we ties up, etc and get dressed, it is often around 9:00. We are glad you enjoy the videos!

[@brnmcc01]

Leave earlier, and put the hammer down :) Full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes. Just kidding. :) I just watched the series of going to Martha's Vineyard, and now I want to go visit Port Jefferson...

[@timharrison9060]

nice video, as always... but what is happening with the engine? be safe, Tim and Cat

[@tryingnottosink9107]

I am not sure what you mean.

[@timharrison9060]

I am so sorry, it was Searching for C-Shels that had engine problems.... still, be safe, we do enjoy your video's.... Tim and Cat

[@rcman098]

Being born and raised in ft pierce I know how the inlet can get. Some days I could take my 14 Carolina skiff through bow problem.... some days wouldn’t take my 23 sea hunt. All depends on the tide

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We just powered on through. I can only imagine the inlet on a 14 footer!

[@richardhoepfner1633]

So where are the Rough Inlets??? Not in this vid.

[@lynpoltonowicz6577]

You had to of been there. Have you ever been at cape fear?

[@jimfeldman4035]

What's the roughest water you'd plan to be out in for a boat like yours? thanks

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We do not like to be in seas greater than 5 foot. However, the boat can take a lot more than we can. The roughest we have been in so far is 7 foot seas and it was a pain.

[@br5498]

It's not always the size of wave ...it's the length between them and depth of the water..a 3 or 4 foot wave will wear you out on the Chesapeake Bay.. but it won't on the Atlantic ocean..

[@rjr-yp9uj]

Don't forget, the Gulf Stream may be helping you.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We were not out very far but perhaps.

[@2299jsimon]

Just about any of the Florida east coast inlets can be a bitch with a stiff easterly on a falling tide. Sebastian can be damn scary.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We have been through most of them. The worst for me is at Cumberland Island, which might be Georgia, I forget. I have done it 3 times and try to avoid it when possible.

[@erichammond9308]

You should try the inlets on the Outer Banks in NC - breakers that are as big as west coast breakers but with a wave period of half as long.

[@marcusrussell8660]

You are going with the gulf stream

[@tryingnottosink9107]

We are not far enough out to hit the Gulf Stream but it might have some affect.

[@billdomb]

Would be helpful to note when the footage was actually shot, not when posted.

[@mrjlbarrett5556]

We just had a Typhoon anf 6.7 magnatude earthquake were og noat is oh

[@tryingnottosink9107]

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[@saltydawg896]

LOL Maps??? I always used Charts to navigate by. Maps when I driving a car or truck.

[@tryingnottosink9107]

Thanks. I did not know that.