ROUND 2: Johnny vs. Sonic Colors: Ultimate

[@587DeathKing]

It's still interesting how Sega's mascot still receives all these minor ups and constant downs when their other series such as Yakuza, Persona, SMT, Sakura Wars, Streets of Rage are all being released incredibly polished to critical acclaim. With Sonic the best we can get is *Well it wasn't as bad as I expected*

[@lynxfresh5214]

Sega have (mostly) forgotten what made the Sonic franchise appealing ages ago also it's kinda funny the IPs that Sega doesn't constantly overlook are the ones that are excelling.

[@apispraetorium3275]

Those games need to be good to sell, Sonic games sell no matter what.

[@Rabbitlord108]

At this point I want SEGA to abandon Sonic as an IP.

[@spritvio639]

@@Rabbitlord108 No, SELL it to someone that will care. (Or that has most if the Unleashed, Colors and Generations staff now. *Ahem* Nintendo. 👀)

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@apispraetorium3275 As a Pokémon fan, it's sad how true that is.

[@Azelf89]

Fun Fact about the cutscenes: When the deluxe edition for this game released (as it released earlier than the normal version), people were eager to datamine the shit out of this game, especially since it was quickly confirmed that Sonic Colors Ultimate was powered by the open-source engine “Godot”, similar to how Criware’s “Renderware” engine was used for Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. What they quickly found within the PC version was that not only were files for literally every version of the game were included together, contributing to the game’s file size, but the team responsible for the port actually left in a number of source files from the original Wii version, including *all of the files for every cutscene*. This means that, with the right tools, you can actually re-render the cutscenes for the game, which is something that many people are already doing.

[@sunlitsonata6853]

I was wondering how the save file size for this was somehow larger than Yakuza 0, which is a substantially larger game in every respect, by at least 20 MB

[@Gnidel]

I'm glad they decided to do that. It makes Sonic Colors Ultimate one of the most moddable Sonic games.

[@ABlob]

"the team responsible for the port actually left in a number of source files from the original Wii version" That also counts like NDA internal development tools, btw, like stuff from Nintendo, Criware and SEGA themselves. Blind Squirrel just left that stuff in the files.

[@k-leb4671]

@@Gnidel I wish video games in general were more mod-friendly and kept a bunch of development assets within the files.

[@gigavoltx8340]

Huh, that could be telling of how rushed the port seems to be. Normally source files and the like are either cleaned up or stored away somewhat to preserve space, right? It's neat to see these files and what the community is able to do with them, but it seems like a major issue that literal source files were left in the retail release.

[@charlessegale6493]

Johnny having a lazy setup for a lazy remaster is pretty genius.

[@Jackattack359]

I don’t know whether to take that as an insult or a complement

[@veggsbacon1891]

Damn right.

[@Catastrophe40]

it's cool, he can just patch it a few times later.

[@Pastel_TJ]

At least he didn't make the video a dailymotion exclusive at the last second

[@blitz4506]

@@Jackattack359 why would you feel insulted for something so deserved

[@Dragonsamuari]

You can just hear and see Johnny's frustration of being shat on as a Sonic fan. Sega is so damn inconsistent with Sonic, I feel sorry for fans who have to put up with such nonsense.

[@mutatedbacon2]

Being a Sonic fan in this day and age brings me nothing but nervousness and uncertainty.

[@nman551]

I’m one of those fans

[@LittleMissZackyVee]

i wish i can not be ashamed to be a sonic fan for once

[@JennyBlaze253]

Honestly, yeah, it really frustrates Sonic fans, myself included. And the worst part is we're bombarded from both sides. Sega acts like they don't give a damn about quality in their games, and the toxic minority of the fandom gives fans who just wanna have a fun time a bad name. It's gotten to the point where I'm honestly tired of Sonic, same as with Pokemon. And it sucks because these two franchises made my childhood... I'm hoping that Sonic Frontiers is good, especially since we got Ian Flynn to write for the game's story, but... I just can't deal with this anymore, man... I'm so, so tired at this point... 😣

[@SuperUnknownPerson]

i’m in stitches from that computer exploding gag, you really know how to make these ads perfect

[@godzillafan9115]

@@xXDexter3000Xx At least it's funny.

[@FranciscoFJM]

@@xXDexter3000Xx People got bills to pay. Shocking, i know

[@SuperUnknownPerson]

@@xXDexter3000Xx huh

[@spicybreadproductions1972]

@@xXDexter3000Xx yeah, I love it. Nice name by the way

[@alumlovescake]

Besides the fact its a VPN what translates to SCAM

[@ultimatehope549]

Damn, seeing that footage from the old review really shows how much weight you’ve lost. We’re proud of you, Johnny

[@Legoluigi26]

Hear hear!

[@PG-sy6dh]

It also reminds me how fat I am :]

[@Legoluigi26]

@@PG-sy6dh Well then work it off! :]

[@PG-sy6dh]

@@Legoluigi26 HAH! Good one. Wait u serious?

[@Legoluigi26]

@@PG-sy6dh Yes. I'd even say dead serious, since obesity kills.

[@toamatoro570]

"The sound mixing is awful" SA2: First time?

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

I'd rather have their sound mixing, as it was only an issue with dialogue

[@Jackattack359]

@@AkameGaKillfan777 yeah, me too

[@Jackattack359]

@Turn Back yeah, and one of those games was made in 2001, a time where audio mixing was not fully correct

[@Jackattack359]

@Turn Back oh I see, sorry

[@FranciscoFJM]

@@Jackattack359 Not true, there's plenty of games that came before SA2 that have correct audio mixing

[@HeroesRiseUp]

5:55 of all the reviews I’ve seen on this, Johnny had the best joke about the Metal Sonic race pop up. It’s funny because I laughed my ass off when I saw it for the first time too. 🤣🤣

[@jeffproductions11]

You are right, that thing makes me laugh so hard 😂

[@entertainer_ev2747]

Eh Retropolis Zone did it first

[@jeffproductions11]

@@entertainer_ev2747 Wans't King K doing it first?

[@HeroesRiseUp]

I don’t know who either of those people are and I kinda don’t care. Only John matters.

[@entertainer_ev2747]

@@HeroesRiseUp well Retropolis Zone and KingK are amazing reviewers too so idk why they "don't matter" but aight

[@KJR_Whatever]

I just realized a neat little detail. In the round 2 image at the beginning, it has a clip of Sonic saying "This might not end well." A small foreshadowing to Johnny's thoughts on the game.

[@Astro_Crunch]

I appreciate that you covered this game after the PR dumpster fire. It can be fun to get a hit in on the punching bag of the week, but it's nice to hear a more level-headed opinion on things.

[@Treyshellz]

Yeah. I felt like he gave a fair review same with Sam because everyone else said the game was just ass. Now they don't want to keep that same energy now that the game is patched

[@captinsparklezremix]

@@Treyshellz lol the game is still ass

[@Treyshellz]

@̇Derpex I've heard that the console release. I'm getting the game on pc which I hear and saw runs the best

[@aquelgamermexicano]

That last quote works so perfectly to summarize the quality of this game SEGA and Blind Squirrel: I JUST DIDN'T FEEL LIKE DOING IT

[@gameman5804]

Just Blind Squirrel.

[@isaiahthechristiangamer8716]

I prefer the Wii version. The “ultimate” version just feels like such a downgrade in my opinion, but I can understand that this is the best version for the people who haven’t played the original.

[@Jackattack359]

Wow, what a hot take

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@Jackattack359 Not really opinions on SCU are pretty much divided also it's almost the end of October and iirc SCU hasn't received any major patches for almost a month now. Either way I get it's a remaster but calling it the "Ultimate" version just sounds dishonest without the DS content imo.

[@Jackattack359]

@@lynxfresh5214 yeah, you’re probably right

[@nman551]

Same

[@ZeiZei990]

@@lynxfresh5214 That naming rubs me the wrong way, but apparently developers are willing to iron those bugs out.

[@VGPorage]

Glitches aside I am really puzzled on how they managed to mess things as basic as having a seperate volume slider for music and sound effects and letting people choose between the orginal and remixed soundtrack.

[@NightNinja1998]

Honestly Johnny, despite your bias with franchises like Sonic, your honesty about ESPECIALLY any technical hiccups, to just how scummy certain practices can blatantly be, it makes you easily one of my all-time favorite reviewers for games. This comes from someone who was definitely quite the Kingdom Hearts fan, who didn't 100% agree with your feelings towards the story in the franchise, I still appreciate how honest you are about a game with its qualities and flaws. I genuinely appreciate how forward you were about the quality of this remaster especially, I still own Sonic Colors on Wii anyways, so it's for the better that I'm not wasting time on it. Thanks again for being as honest as you are man, and have a good one!

[@funnysonicman]

Funny how you predicted this remaster around a year prior to its release during your re-review last year.

[@mr.morningstar8350]

Oh cool to see you here

[@fojisan2398]

More like Re-ASS-ter

[@CeHee123]

I've been hoping that we'd get a advance/rush collection, but after the launch and all the controversy surrounding this, I'm not so sure.

[@certifiednobody]

IDK, the Wii seems like it's much harder to port than the GBA, and Sega would probably do it in-house rather than let Blind Squirrel handle things. We'll just have to see how well Origins ports the classic games before we make the verdict, as Sonic Team is working on that rather than some other random company.

[@doclouis4236]

I'm sure the source code for those games has been long since been lost and if they decide to emulate them, well if it's anything like their Genesis Collection on modern consoles, expect the same quality port as Colors Ultimate.

[@russellbrown6888]

@@doclouis4236 I highly doubt SEGA would just lose the source code for any of those games. These days every studio keeps a source code archive for every version of every game they've produced, finished or not, so unless a hard-drive was corrupted or lost (a la Pinnacle station from Mass Effect 1), or some idiot didn't archive any version of those games at all, they should be able to make new ports for those games.

[@doclouis4236]

@@russellbrown6888 Well... Team Ninja lost the source code for the Ninja Gaiden Xbox games, most other Japanese devs either forget or throw away the code for their games especially if they are console exclusive and were released before PC and Steam became the more popular alternatives to mainstream console gaming. Same thing happened when Konami lost the code for the Silent Hill games and I pray to god that they didn't lose the code to the MGS games because Kojima managed to preserve them for a while but after his departure and Konami wanting to get rid of everything related to his existence... I'm worried.

[@smashmaster521]

@@certifiednobody That offers me little reassurance.

[@adrianleonce455]

Sadly, Colors Ultimate has greatly decreased fans' trust in SEGA and greatly increased the importance of Sonic Rangers succeeding

[@IamaPERSON]

Sonic Rangers?

[@JacktheLightningRipper]

Through no fault of Sega’s. It was pain fans inflicted on themselves.

[@JJ_R]

@@IamaPERSON The next new game that was announced during Sonic’s 30th anniversary.

[@quintonblackburn3916]

wait, people trusted Sega to put out a competent Sonic title after the disaster that was Sonic Boom and the likewise lukewarm/middling Sonic Forces? And after "Sonic 4"? Yeah... I think people hyped themselves up too much for this and realized Sega only cares about slapdash pushing shit out as fast as possible for a quick buck, damn the consequences.

[@adrianleonce455]

@@IamaPERSON Its Sonic 2022. Fans call it Rangers thanks to some leaks.

[@kratosgow342]

the worst part of Ghost Wisp inclusion is that in some level they modified by lazily put invisible wall there to force you pick up and use Ghost wisp to phase through it which wasn't the case in the original

[@HenzPlayz2002]

It cannot be understated how much Juan cares about his fans. Just the amount of work he puts into doing charity events and how every outro of his is just filled with love cannot be thanked enough. I really hope you hit 1 mill some time soon. It would be extremely deserved.

[@AngryLittleAmericansCartoons]

The comment "Being a Sonic Fan is like being a Dissatisfied Housewife" brings true every Sonic release

[@veggsbacon1891]

All I'm gonna say is this cold water statement: *Colors Ultimate is a weak port of a decent game.* And I'm also tired of the wisp fiascos from sega. Imagine Unleashed and others get this same treatment. That's NO good!

[@jaretco6423]

Well to be fair, Unleashed was kinda glitchy in some technical points.

[@daffyfable1983]

SEGA actually gave Blind Squirrel all the tools that they could to make this the best remaster possible. For example, people found animations to the original custscenes in the files despite the originals being pre-rendered. I feel that Blind Squirrel is more at fault than SEGA especially since they changed the game's engine for no apparent reason. I still think that SEGA should have overlooked the project more before release, but I still think that how they set up the remaster for sucess should be awknowledged, the actual final product not withstanding.

[@Azelf89]

Actually, it’s still the same gameplay engine underneath. It’s just that the game is being rendered by “Godot”, rather than whatever rendering engine they used for the original Wii.

[@sunlitsonata6853]

I believe they also had a WWE game ported to Switch badly before; so there was precedent for them doing badly on that console. Say what you will about Forces but the Switch version was stable despite the framerate and resolution dip

[@the-aspiring-creator4249]

That's a very fair point but I think while tools are important, time also is and considering the timeframe from Sonic Colors' announcement to release and the many, MANY occasions where SEGA has put out something like this where for some reason many little annoyances and even outright glitches sneak in? It's hard to really throw every bit of shade at Blind Squirrel, especially when we've seen how remasters and remakes in years prior from other studios can actually succeed.

[@daffyfable1983]

@@Azelf89 I actually think they used the Hedgehog Engine for the original, similar to Sonic unleashed with visuals tomed back and changes with controls and physics. You're right about the Godot engine though. That's an open source engine that I think was used for the lighting that wasn't credited by the developers. The thing is, that pporting something to a new engine takes a lt of work, and it takes a lot of time to test if everything works properly.

[@daffyfable1983]

@@sunlitsonata6853 I actually never knew that. That's really interesting. I also consider games like Forces to be some of the best ports to the Switch since it was a game released for more powerful consoles and the only drawback was that it ran a 30 fps as opposed to 60 at a lower resolution. I consider it a really impessive port because they still kept a lot of the background details that made the game feel more expansive, despite the level design being very straightforward. Games like Forces, Crash 4, and Doom prove that there really wasn't much of a reason for this remaster to run as badly as it does.

[@XradicalD]

SEGA: What is that one Sonic game that turned out ok in the public eye? ST: Sonic colors? SEGA: Yeah that one... ruin it.

[@gameman5804]

Blind Squirrel are the ones to blame. Lack of communication within the team and the Higher Ups were so fucking delusional, many people left.

[@gameman5804]

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[@kylecrofts8740]

@@gameman5804 Quick scapegoating.

[@gameman5804]

@@kylecrofts8740 Quit denying and watch the video. :)

[@gameman5804]

@@jaretco6423 Blind Squirrel’s problem was a severe lack of communication between not just themselves alone, also between their clients. Sega and Sonic Team literally gave them EVERYTHING, and they still fucked it up. By the time Sega was shown the game, it’s not like they could just drop it. They specifically hyped it up in the Sonic Symphony!

[@Laurmachi]

"The animations to promote the game were better than the game?" Where have we heard that before?

[@fleedledeedle666]

*cough*TeamSonicRacing*cough*

[@soapbiter36577]

Pokemon

[@kingbash6466]

I never believed that I would live in a timeline where people are saying that SADX is the better port compared to Colors.

[@OscarSanchez-vo9dx]

This is gonna be the sadx for today's kids, I didn't have a problem with dx but see the issues with it compared to the original now and the cycle repeats once again

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

@@OscarSanchez-vo9dx except you can tell stuff is wrong even if you didn’t play the original

[@wolfie23288]

Lol

[@OizenX]

I mean a lot of SADX's changes are more confusing and subjective downgrades rather than sonic transcending reality and becoming a deformed mess while on a LSD trip.

[@Roxas2099ZX]

sadx had a better story, thats for sure.

[@omegabluebomber6695]

This game was done SO dirty. The audio would just cut out for me on PS5 randomly. I think using dolphin is the best option overall.

[@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32]

Debatable. The wii u port is honestly got a solid and faithful port while also having _higher quality_

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 Really not sure what you mean by that. Colours never got a wii u port and it's effectively the exact same game just on a stronger system. You might get better colour depth or a steadier framerate lock than the original version but there's nothing special about playing colours on wii u.

[@TailsGuy72]

@@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 Man It's the same. There isn't even a resolution bump, it's like Sonic Unleashed on XSX, the only benefits are the FPS, and Colors was already pretty stable.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@TailsGuy72 It's really weird how he calls it a wii u port when he's just putting a wii game with backwards compatibility in

[@baddabaddabaddaswing]

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero it would be identical on WiiU as the WiiU itself can't play wii games, it goes into a separate "wii mode" to play wii games, meaning they'll play identically on Wii, including downsides.

[@RevShadow_508]

Sega didn't feel like putting forth a substantial effort in to this re release so Johnney said fuck it I don't need my hat and coffee for this.

[@Gaia_BentosZX5]

This is the game that did quite a lot of damage to a game that COULD'VE been ported as-is, or had a little oomph to it. Instead Blind Squirrels just gave this franchise's detractors more ammo, but at least the "Sonic was Never Good" argument was shot down permanently because of his multimedia outings finally being recognized.

[@toonzach2870]

It's just a shame that the main meat of this property is constantly being mishandled. Like, yeah, I love the movie, the comics have their fans, I'm looking forward to Sonic Prime... but I'm not at all excited for Rangers, or whatever it ends up being called.

[@Kingdom850]

Blind Squirrel isn't to blame. It's sega as usual, rushing out sonic games for that holiday release.

[@Jackattack359]

@@Kingdom850 no, it’s blind squirrel’s fault. They have a pretty bad track record when it comes to ports

[@DylanDude]

@@Kingdom850 There’s evidence that Sega delayed the game by a year just to give them extra time. They are not the only ones at fault here.

[@Kingdom850]

@@DylanDude I find that very hard to believe with Sega's history with rushing out Sonic games for the holidays.

[@JJ_R]

The ONLY thing I liked with this version more than the Wii version is the new Super Sonic theme.

[@Copyablejet]

Same and I haven't even bought ultimate

[@nintendoentertainmentsyste5432]

@@Copyablejet same And i dont wanna use autism as an excuse to upset other people But i dont feel like buying sonic colors ultimate since it feels uneasy for my autism (I hope i dont upset other people with autism i dont hate anyone and i approved the community with both sonic and others) I hope you all understand

[@sunlitsonata6853]

That and also the framerate, the Ferris wheel boss themes, and SOME of the graphical upgrades

[@quagstar]

I like how there is a remixed soundtrack to the game. I know a lot of people don't like it, but I like how there are new versions of the songs I love from the original version.

[@AkameGaKillfan777]

@@nintendoentertainmentsyste5432 What about the game sets it off?

[@Espio]

Find it really dumb that they couldn't be bothered to get Colours running at 60fps on Switch when Lost World ran at 60fps on the Wii U

[@Robbie_Haruna]

Honestly it's Blind Squirrel's fault more than anything else. Apparently they're just really bad at optimization for the Switch and the ignorant masses like to just blindly call the Switch too weak. Like yes it's not as powerful as other systems, but when you're porting a game that was originally a Wii title it's a bad fucking look when you can't even be assed to get it to run 60fps on Switch (especially when Skyward Sword had an HD port that added 60fps only a few weeks prior.)

[@jacktwelve1710]

Round 2: the colors shine even *brighter*

[@SetoShadowVT]

Except in cutscenes which uses the original Wii Cutscenes lol

[@mintystingmoon4787]

Sometimes, too bright.

[@jacktwelve1710]

@@mintystingmoon4787 yep

[@jacktwelve1710]

@@SetoShadowVT true

[@toamatoro570]

I've never felt like shit

[@rumble8865]

The jade wisp is cool, but I wish they brought over burst from ds and while not required, it would have been a neat addition to have the ds game in gamelan and unlock chaos emeralds through that method

[@SaturnSZN]

And to think this is now the most common way to play Sonic Colors...

[@saiyanscaris6530]

gonna be honest. if they cant even handle a port of a past game well without it being inferior to the original. what can sega and sonic team even do now to fix sonic. or is this a sign that sonics gonna be continuing this trend for the rest of eternity

[@JLuisJoni]

7:27 Yeah, it's just the Planet Wisp remixes. I bought the Deluxe Edition on Switch myself, found it odd that PW's music was unlocked early, was informed that those were the exclusive music tracks(a feature which already confused me to begin with, since, unlike Smash Bros or Sonic Generations, Colors doesn't let you choose the stage music, so I thought it could be new, alternate remixes of the main themes just as an added bonus), and basically confirmed it when I saw Inugami Korone play Ultimate on Stream, and none of the Planet Wisp levels had the remixes, but every other level did. which just makes no sense to me, seeing as they're regular stages themes, not bonus tracks of any kind. they're not like the remixes made for the sonic youtube channel a while back or extra tracks featured in albums, like the 2.014k remix of it doesn't matter, it's just the new planet wisp music. I really don't get what the thought process or strategy was here.

[@martinaguiluz4063]

Man, I really hate that they eliminated the live system for this game. This game wasn't even hard. I just really hate what they did with a pretty good Sonic Game in general

[@psychie8625]

This is why I use the original game to gather footage. I was always ambivalent, but dang. I never imagined there could've been so many problems upon release.

[@Jeffersonia120]

I LOVE the new Reach for the Stars in Ultimate!

[@newguy186]

Luckily, according to the Sonic wiki, after various updates that came out after this video, the music in the credits now loops, and there have been improvements to the audio mixing, along with the option to toggle between the original music or the Ultimate remixes, along with other various fixes and additions.

[@famoussession7426]

Quite sad that Sega still treats any characters not named Sonic or Eggman as having any importance. Even Tails is nothing more than an exposition generator most times.

[@lynxfresh5214]

Repeat with me: thank the hate bandwagon of the "Dark age" (sONiCs uSEleSs FrIEnDs) and Sega for actually listening to non-fans.

[@certifiednobody]

They've been moving away from that for a while, actually. There was just only so much that could be changed in a remaster without turning it into a full-on remake. At the very least, they tried making Tails more prominent and actually useful unlike the original

[@georgecortes3416]

Yeah, Sonic's friends really don't do anything anymore. For me, what happened to Tails in Sonic Forces pissed me off: In the Sonic Adventure games, Tails slowly but surely built up his confidence to the point he disarms a missile AND fights Eggman by himself and wins! TWICE! At that point, he was a young hero kids can look up to since Tails was self-sufficient and able to take care of bad guys by himself without always needing Sonic's help! And then all of that gets thrown away in Forces because Chaos 0 scares him! Remember: Tails defeated Chaos 4 back in Sonic Adventure! This really did anger me and it's really disappointing to see Tails go from a character kids can use as a positive influence to grow to yet another accessory for Sonic because he can't do anything on his own!

[@therighttrousers343]

I miss Omega.

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@therighttrousers343 At least Omega appeared in Forces (Albeit for shallow fanservice until the episode Shadow DLC) Cream and Blaze haven't appeared in a single main-series game since Generations... :/ (A decade). Yet in Forces they brought back the Wisps, Classic Sonic, Zavok, etc.

[@sparkplugtheprotogen3684]

Johnny I want to tell you how much of an impact your videos have on me whenever I feel bad or good or anywhere in between your videos always make me smile and brightens my day I don't know how else to say it but thank you Johnny

[@nunchuk28]

Oh boy, 2 Johnny vs in a week! I don't think I enjoyed Colors enough to warrant a second dip (at least not unless it gets a steam release for dirt cheap), but the reception this got certainly made me glad I had little interest to begin with.

[@grimhellscythe6998]

I literally watched your Sonic Colors review last night while making lunch and thought you would have to do a Round 2 for it. that is some timing on my part

[@A.E.S.R]

If it ain’t broken don’t fix it. Well Sega always does the complete opposite.

[@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569]

yeah just about every remake they've done has an issue for it.

[@gamebrkr9507]

Yeah, Sega definitely does what Nintendon't alright. Although, Nintendo does have it's own issues.

[@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569]

GameBRKR they also suck at releasing older content. NSO expansion is the biggest rip off i've ever seen.

[@jaretco6423]

As bad as Nintendo might be, they still manage to make alot of good games for each series ( especially Mario ) than what Sega did for Sonic. I just beat Metroid Dread twice and I'm about to go on my 3rd run to hopefully speedrun it.

[@ikagura]

Mania is a good proof for that.

[@FranciscoFJM]

Meanwhile the Yakuza series released their best selling game in the series, and after that we got Lost Judgement, which is also fucking amazing

[@megasoniczxx]

9:00 To be honest I feel like this has just sorta been the trend since Team Sonic Racing came out. Pre-release material setting you up for when the game inevitably disappoints. I'd actually be a little worried if the next sonic game got shorts now lol.

[@renderpeach]

Cried with laughter when the Metal Sonic Spam Popup came up

[@KittyKatty999]

This is why people genuinely question if Sonic was ever actually good. Sometimes I feel like Sega is only so kind and supportive with fan made stuff, out of desperate fear of being dead in the water otherwise. Persona and Yakuza are great, but they aren't kid games, or the Poster Boy of fuck ups XD

[@keeganstormblade5456]

9:19 "I would also avoid it on the Switch if possible. Even after the initial patch, its still got half of the framerate and long as load times." Me, who has the Switch version: *Nervous sweating*

[@drawertogether]

$5 for 3 tracks. That's funny because Monkey Ball Banana Blitz has that exact same cost, but for the entire classic soundtrack.

[@jeffproductions11]

Yeah is just wrong, I am glad I just got the normal Physical Edition for 37 + the cosmetic DLC making Everything 42 dollars (A little less than digital) I didn't care for the remixes (Is just music) But yeah you are right

[@100Darkspine]

I couldn't stop giggling at the pop-up ad comparison for the rival race

[@kadosho02]

I never owned a Wii, at the time Colors was released. So I made sure to catch up with Colors Ultimate. Same issues with this, I have the physical PS4 edition. I'm thankful I finally have it in my game library, even though it has its faults.

[@datalphalion]

Fun fact. This port is a hodgepodge of two clashing game engines: the Hedgehog Engine and Blind Squirrel’s Godot Engine.

[@sonicboy678]

Blind Squirrel's _fork of_ the Godot engine...

[@masterfarr8265]

Sega seems to have forgotten that Sonic is a Videogame first and everything else second

[@J.R.Unbound]

Thank you for mentioning the short animations. They were the only reason I was tempted to get the game.

[@theSuper1Player]

I got the Switch version day 1, and I had the same passable experience as Johnny. I’m glad I didn’t experience the horror stories so many others did, but it’s upsetting that the game feels so undercooked. I hope Sonic Team uses and expands on things like the cosmetics for whatever game comes next. Also, I hope they take their goddamn time to make sure it’s a stable game whatever it is

[@ubiquitouszergio4267]

I feel like you would've enjoyed the planet wisp remixes had they placed the remixes *after* the original ones, where the progression of Eggman's control over the planet is increased act after act both visually and musically.

[@BH-98]

Sonic Colours is now the most reviewed game on this channel! (5 times!) I was looking forward to Colours Ultimate but after hearing how buggy it is & the other issues that make it worse I decided to give it a miss. I’ve still got the Wii version & still enjoy it, I don’t see the need to buy a worse version of a game I like.

[@NiGHTSfreak235]

I always thought that Rival Rush mode was the developer's attempt at bringing something like the Metal Sonic race from Sonic CD into a 3D Sonic game, and I always really liked that idea.

[@huuuuuuuh60871]

Alright I'm ready for my eyes to melt from all the colors, LET'S GOOO!!

[@DementedDuskull]

Man, it's always something. Almost makes me think Sonic Team can't even make games if every release has day one issues.

[@GenerationZ313]

What I don't like about this release is that depending on how you purchased the game you won't be able to get all the games content. So if you buy the physical launch edition you got the baby Sonic keychain and download code for 4 exclusive player icons which you cannot get otherwise. If you decide to get the digital deluxe edition you get the Movie Sonic content but you miss out on the 4 exclusive player icons (alongside the baby Sonic keychain of course). So really there's no way for you to actually get everything unless you decide to get the physical addition and buy the digital deluxe edition content separately.

[@jeffproductions11]

You are right, to have everything they Will make you Buy a Phisical Version of the Keychain and the exclusive layers, and a Digital Deluxe edition to have the Movie Sonic and Silver and Gold Cosmetics, as well as the Planet Wisp Remixes, Makining Having all the Game Content for 85 dollars Plus Tax wish Will be like 90 or even 100 dollars, Thats just Wrong, I am Glad I got my phisical edition of 37 dollars and the Cosmetic DLC for 5, 42 dollars in total, The remixes Will cost you 3 dollars, I only dont have the remixes (I dont really care about does, is just music) Sega is really Weird

[@GenerationZ313]

@@jeffproductions11 well actually you can just buy the physical edition with the key chain for $54.99 CAD and get the digital deluxe content on the e-shop separately which will cost about ~$6Cad meaning you will end up paying over $60 CAD not including taxes.

[@jeffproductions11]

@@GenerationZ313 Yeah, But the Planet Wisp Remixes only come in the digital Edition, Wish is 45 dollars total

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

I still find it bizarre how people actually have to be told to wash their hands as i always thought it was common sense but sadly not

[@brendanblair64]

Great video! I'm really hoping they patch this one a lot more, a remaster of Colors is such a good idea, and I hate that they screwed it up.

[@neosonic199]

Honestly, I had my reservations about this game’s re-release (even with the added features. I’ll just stick with my original wii version.

[@Nel_Annette]

I think SEGA and I have different definitions of the word "ultimate".

[@tomturner2151]

I was extremely pumped to play Ultimate. But when I played it, I found out that the load times for stages are SLOWER than the original. It’s not a terrible port but it was disappointing in quite a few areas imo

[@jinxact532]

I didn't really like he Wii version ultimate is definitely better

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@jinxact532 That's you not liking the wii. There's nothing truly better about ultimate, shitty sound and worse lighting in particular are inexcusable.

[@jinxact532]

@@NeutralGuyDoubleZero is the soundtrack worse abso fucking lutly but I like the brighter and new lighting and the customization was fun I didn't really notice the audio issues because I don't use my headset unless I'm playing with friends and I enjoyed the rival rush it gave a sense of accomplishment beating metal in stages

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@jaretco6423 That just means you like Sonic Rush more than Wii Colours. That's fine, but also a completely seperate game from proper colours. A ds game with completely different gameplay can't be the definitive version of a wii game, unless said wii game had little quality of its own to offer.

[@NeutralGuyDoubleZero]

@@jinxact532 There isn't new lighting. There's noticeably less of it in certain stages. Neat that you don't care much about sound in your games but that's a big thing for a lot of people. Fucked up audio is one of the most distracting things a videogame can do. Cutscenes are also wrecked compression wise and look like crap. Customization is cute but also super shallow and not worth the other downsides. This is 100% not the definitive version when you can easily play Colours on dolphin in 4k with proper lighting at 120fps+.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

The alternate shoes and gloves are really disappointing to me. Compare them to the costumes Mario got in Odyssey, or the ones Crash got in Crash 4. Not only were they full on costumes, but they had a ton of love and charm to them. Mario specifically got a ton of costumes referencing the character's history, which I so wish Sonic got. SOAP shoes? Classic eyes? Boom scarf? Come on, I feel like these are begging to be included and would have made the concept way cooler imo.

[@smashmaster521]

Going to have to disagree on the Classic eyes cosmetic since I'm sick of Classic Sonic being shoved into games where he doesn't belong.

[@DoctorMinjinx]

@@smashmaster521 I can get behind that.I just feel in general it's missing a lot of potential

[@smashmaster521]

@@DoctorMinjinx True. It doesn't help that Smash showed how you can give Sonic some neat cosmetics that Sonic Colors Ultimate could have carried over. Also, in case you're curious, I gave my Sonic the Chrome Red Gloves and the Chrome Blue Shoes.

[@jaretco6423]

Not to mentioned that Mario Odyssey and Crash 4 are much better quality games than Sonic Colors Ultimate has. Shoot. Crash Bandicoot: N-Sane Trilogy, Sypro Reignited Trilogy and even Super Mario 3D All-Stars ( despite it's problems ) are better remastered games than this.

[@andrewwood8056]

5:04 Man… that may be the most genuinely pissed I have ever heard Johnny be

[@KingCasual1986]

This is honestly the first time I’ve actually heard of the glitches in the Switch port. I’m currently at the final boss and the only glitch I’ve run into is the game SOMEHOW maxing me out with all those park tokens and letting me get everything in the shop. Other than the fact that this run has probably been my best run on Sonic Colors EVER, it’s Sonic Colors as I remember it.

[@LuccianoBartolini]

What many don't talk about is that most of the people complaining about the bugs in the Switch version were playing on the amulator "Yuzu" but that is information that stayed on Twitter.

[@spaized8191]

Glad someone in this comment section is positive.

[@lonnakko333]

My dude just dropping these like he was eating popcorn at the cinema!

[@markthomaskiec2453]

What is wrong with this series and its refusal to take even the tiniest win? This shouldn't have even been a hard game to make better, just update the levels a bit, polish the models and graphics, make sure it passes testing, and then maybe add some bonus content, THAT'S IT! How did they not have the time or money to do any of that with their freaking mascot franchise?

[@LiveHedgehog]

It's sad that, of the series' 3 main remaster games, only 1 of them could be considered an upgrade.

[@BrokenAce1295]

I personally find this remaster to be one of the worst and most broken Sonic games I've ever played. The amount of missed opportunities, idiotic design choices and technical issues bring this game down greatly. Even with all the patches that were released for it, it's still severely flawed.

[@dreamcastshadow2970]

Adventure Remakes are never ever happening.

[@BrokenAce1295]

@@dreamcastshadow2970 Never say never. It's always a possibility. I however hope they don't happen at this point to be honest. I don't trust Sega, judging by the way they handle the series these days.

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@dreamcastshadow2970 A blessing in disguise tbh. The fandom and freelance/indie developers might as well team up and do it themselves.

[@dreamcastshadow2970]

@@BrokenAce1295 Izuka said if Colors Ultimate does well, then that's when theyll finally give us adventure remakes.

[@dreamcastshadow2970]

@@lynxfresh5214 ChaosX could maybe do that hehe...

[@katsudonroscoe5832]

Considering they’re still fucking up, it’s easy to tell what will become of sonic rangers

[@FallenStarPunk]

I said it once it was revealed and I’ll say it again. ADVENTURE REMAKES!

[@smashmaster521]

After this mess? No thank you.

[@spaized8191]

They better not even THINK about SA1 or SA2 until they show they can make a proper remaster.

[@retron99]

you still trust them with that after this? smh

[@smashmaster521]

@@retron99 He's desperate, Sigma.

[@MiaArianaMia]

Sonic went ghost like Danny Phantom, get it? 9:52 sounds great, Johnny. Hope you have fun.

[@toonzach2870]

Just seeing the state this game was released in pissed me off and made me feel a little depressed. Like... why can this franchise not do anything right anymore in terms of game content?

[@jaretco6423]

Grima the Fell Dragon. That's exactly been this way since Sonic 06. Sonic was started off strong in the Genesis era and did decently enough in the Adventure series. But after that, it all comes tumbling down when they just don't have the quality over quantity. With the exception of the Advance series & Rush series. Though that was most likely made by other developers at an time. They did manage to get back up again with Colors to some extent & Generations. But than falls back down into mediocrity or just plain bad. Mania is an exception. But that was more towards the fans making this game rather than Sega or Sonic Team. And than u have this " ultimate " version that feels half-baked and unpolished.

[@SonicTheCutehog]

Tails: "Sonic, I don't think we should be here!"

[@larrymantic2635]

That reminds me of the Cheese throwing for Warped Tiny’s fight in NST

[@rollbustah]

It's pretty hilarious that EVERY port or remaster of a 3D Sonic game has similar sound mixing issues. How does this keep happening!?

[@Eminster]

I don't know man

[@DiscordedHaru]

Stupidity.

[@Eminster]

Incompetence band listening to the wrong people

[@Code7Unltd]

Do you *LIKE THE MACHINES!?*

[@lynxfresh5214]

@@Eminster My thoughts exactly.

[@jaktrusz]

I wouldn’t say I forgot about sonic colors ultimate. I just happened to do everything within a week of its release

[@mjc0961]

4:54 - SEGA never learns any other lesson about developing Sonic games - why should they learn this one? 😒 I'm burnt out from it too. Stop low efforting this franchise all the time, SEGA. Especially because it always comes with the same promise to do a better job next time, only for them to do the same crappy job all over again.

[@jackhageman9983]

I’m just confused how Sega wants sonic to be better but they do these things over and over it turns me away every time

[@Ifheavenwashell]

Hey Johnny would you ever consider doing a round 2 for the Smash Ultimate DLC characters?

[@demetriusnp49]

I’m loving these gags in your videos, it’s like every review is watching a cartoon. Looking forward to more!

[@EnzoZambrotti]

Hey John, since you are now doing these Round 2s it would be cool if you looked at Terraria again. It was the first video I watched from your channel and it’d be cool to see your thoughts on it.

[@jrpludacrous]

The major bug I've had was music cues not playing at all From some Wisp powers, to some of the Red Star Rings to *the first time I activate Super Sonic*

[@TekkenGirl4Lyfe]

Just one more reason to never sell my Wii.

[@Werewolfwrath]

The first time I saw the seizure inducing color glitches being posted online, my reaction was "oh great, it's Sonic Labyrinth in 3D".

[@ark5074]

As someone’s whose favorite game and first modern game was colors, I was excited as all can be for this, I’m so disappointed it released the way it did. This remaster deserved better.

[@Julianlikesvideos]

@5:15 I know your Showcasing a bug but it looks so fantastic lol

[@Waylon128]

Very odd to me that Sonic always seems to get the short end of the stick by Sega. Considering...you know....he's their damn mascot

[@Supersonic415]

the time has come. The round 2 we were waiting for

[@SamuraiDon]

Honestly the mistreatment of of the game and the Sonic IP by Sega is just frustrating. I don't normally get mad when Sega releases a subpar Sonic game but given that I love Sonic Colours. This botched port really annoys me off as both Sega and Blind Squirrel put in mediocre effort into the port and tried to rip the Sonic fan base off. Not a good look given how passionate and loyal the fan base have been over the years. Blind Squirrel should have never been given this port job as if they can't get a Wii game to run at 60FPS on Switch, despite the fact the Switch has Skyward Sword, Mario Galaxy, No More Heroes 1+2 all of which Wii titles, running at 60 FPS on the Switch. This suggest that they are wholly inexperience with the Switch's hardware. Bottom line Sega cheap out on the port, par for the course for them, which makes me worried about the Sonic Origin collection. As it stand, I agree with Johnny that you're better off sticking to the original Wii version, or the DS version if you want to play handheld. Only play Ultimate if have never played the original and have access to a gaming PC or the PS4/5 and Xbox. Avoid the Switch version at all cost. On the bright it at least Sonic Colours is short so the suffering is short, given that I legit forgot that I owned the switch version. 😂

[@TELMEman]

6:09 Ah yes, my favorite rapper. 50 Park Token

[@AniGaAG]

I can emulate this on Dolphin at 1080p, no sweat. It works, runs, and looks great. Same lesson here that Nintendo had to learn with their awful 3D Mario collection a while ago: When emulation of the original is a legitimately _vastly better experience_ than your rerelease, then something went really, really, _really_ wrong.

[@captainseg]

I own Sonic Colors on the Wii and I own Ultimate for the PS4. Colors plays a HUGE role for me personally as it is the Sonic game that solidified me as a fan of the series from curiosity when I was a kid. But I won't lie, Colors deserved a bit more respect than the final product that we got. Still a fun game though

[@mrsombrero9956]

I gotta say, I'm just happy to have been able to play Sonic Colors for the first time so I'm more of less content. Plus I got lucky with the glitches as someone who played it a day or two after release. But seriously why did they not Remaster the Cut Scenes? Kingdom Hearts did it just fine. So what happened?

[@autosaver]

9:40 - Just a FYI, the SEGA social manager tweeted out an additional Colors patch WILL be released

[@eternalmaggot7246]

Yeah, I played on launch [Switch Digital]. Ran into only, like, one game-breaking glitch the entire way to 100% it. As did my wife with her own version. That being said, I know we are the outliers and that it needs patched. Badly. There was one released late last night but I didn't see it actually change anything. So... I'm hoping for more IMPACTFUL patches.