Never seen a RHD diesel before! Amazing. I had a 3500s, a Vitesse & got to drive a 5.0 Vitesse conversion...awesome monster. I sold the Vitesse for £600 - more fool me!
@rogerpritchard10 ай бұрын
Very, very rare. Worth the money and commitment to restore it. My father liked Rovers. Started with a P2 1948. Last one was a 827 coupe, wonderful car. Will be watching!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Indeed they are very rare! Mind you a P2 is also equally as rare I’d say! Be awesome to find one and add it to my collection, thanks ☺️
@Draxindustries110 ай бұрын
Very rare but wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. These were painfully slow and very agricultural. Ps, not anti Rover , I used to have a 2600.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@Draxindustries1 a lot of people have told me they’re very agricultural, for me it’s the spec that people knew existed but can’t really find any more, I see her in all honesty as a collector car rather than a daily driver, probably one of the harder cars to add to a collection
@Draxindustries110 ай бұрын
@thatroverguy1937 I agree re a car to add to a collection. A lot of old cars will fall into this category though. Many you just wouldn't want to use as a daily driver. I wish I'd kept the Rover 2600 but at the time wasn't really worth much. I actually swopped it for a fox body 81 Mustang 2.3 Turbo. That in itself would likely be worth a fair bit now. Looking around on the net these Rover SD1's are fetching quite serious money. Hindsight is a great thing...😉
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@Draxindustries1 they are and they aren’t, depends on how much work your willing to put into them, but yeah they have definitely appreciated a lot over the past 5 years, not had a foxbody, but I did at one point have a ‘69 fastback and a ‘71 back when they weren’t worth that much, £1500 for a fastback 😂 those were the days!
@classlessbozo31710 ай бұрын
“She didn’t understand the importance of having a diesel.” Thank god I don’t have to justify my spending with anyone.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Sounds like freedom!
@tomdrives10 ай бұрын
That quote is just priceless, such a great video.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@tomdrives Thanks Tom ☺️
@marcmercedes270710 ай бұрын
My "she" is exit 😅
@herseem10 ай бұрын
the original quote - spoken like a true man with man's logic unfathomable to women.
@gwizz917510 ай бұрын
Can't be many of these left. They were always a rare sight even when Sd1s were current. Lots of love for these, another 'dad had one' a 2600SE series 2, a truly lovely car.
@geoffcrowe301810 ай бұрын
The engine is a VM it's an Italian unit with some interesting features such as a tunnel crank and those individual alloy cylinder heads , the tunnel crank made the crankcase very narrow and was very useful for marine applications where space was at a premium. Glad it fired up ok. I had many many hours with these.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I have actually got a spare engine and 1 in a Range Rover, so I’m not completely without knowledge on them, but this’ll be the first one I’ll rebuild, I have heard they were used in marine applications predominantly, just as I’ve learnt (from personal experience) the alloy heads can crack
@geoffcrowe301810 ай бұрын
I also meant to say regarding the seized clutch If you let the engine get well warmed up and try driving it with clutch depressed (using the starter motor to get things going) and get into as higher gear as you can and just put power on and off it can free things off. Having said that you might end up dropping the box and chiseling the clutch off the flywheel. Just something I did with a lot of old landrovers that had been sitting in fields and was very effective, just need to borrow some trade plates. Either way looking forward to seeing you progress with this.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@geoffcrowe3018 if you can think of a way I’ve tried it before lol bought many tractors with seized clutches, generally with them I either leave them in 1st gear driving into a tree, only takes 2-3 minutes usually to come free, or chain them to a tree and leave them in gear, also on old Land Rovers I’ve used a propane torch to heat up the clutch with it running to get them free, with this particular engine though I’m just gunna pull her, it’s highly unlikely it’d damage the flywheel but I’m edging way on the side of caution with her, also I’ll probably get the pressure plate reconditioned as there’s a man local that does exactly that so it’d save potential damage to the pressure plate
@geoffcrowe301810 ай бұрын
Ah, I see our career paths perhaps ran in a similar direction as also did the tractor route, must admit didn't try the tree option to free clutch, lol. All the best.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@geoffcrowe3018 if it has an engine, I’ll give it a go! Groovy have a nice evening mate
@cambs0181Ай бұрын
My father owned SD turbo back when I was a kid. You remember those cool V8 s your dad had? Yeah this is going to be different. We had a problem with one of the vans at work a while back when the cabin started to fill with exhaust fumes. The driver got out coughing and feeling sick. I was actually quite okay and didn't really notice it. The only reason I could think I was so immuned to the diesel fumes, was down to sitting in the back of one of these for three years of my childhood.
@DjNikGnashers10 ай бұрын
I used to drive one regularly, when I worked for a taxi company, and they had one for the airport runs. It was a great long distance cruiser. I didn't see too many other UK RHD SD1 diesels.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Out of curiosity what sorta mileage would that SD have gotten up to do you remember?
@DjNikGnashers10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 I honestly cannot remember my friend sorry, it didn't have moon mileage on it and certainly less than 100k, but this was around 30 years ago, so it would have been quite new. It was a very nice car, a bit noisy obviously, as the old diesels were not as refined, but it was a great long distance cruiser, I did 1000's of miles in it myself.
@chiefrocka860410 ай бұрын
What was the reg ? I had a exact same spec one as this even same colour trim ,special order black and ESR plus 4ew pas etc. That car had signs of radio equipment fitted to the dashboard and I believe the first owner was the NCB then a chauffeur Co.
@chiefrocka860410 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937so ours the exact same year colour spec even interior colour and esr plus 4ew would do over 40mpg easily on a run of sorts . Would keep up with modern traffic easily and could see off vans and smaller cars ,the real bonus of a SD Turbo was it’d never break down with rover dealer spec services which makes them a million times better than modern crap
@DjNikGnashers10 ай бұрын
@@chiefrocka8604 I can't remember, it was over 30 years ago, sorry. It did have old style two-way radio comms fitted, like all taxi's back then. The company was in Lincoln UK, called Guymer's minicabs.
@davidspark263310 ай бұрын
Looking forward to watching your progress with this rare beast
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I’ve just been fitting an engine in one of my P38’s today so nothing on the SD1 today, I should’ve filmed the P38 engine swap, I think I will maybe do a catch up on it tomorrow, ordered a go pro so I can do longer higher quality videos of the diesel SD1 and the other 3 I have in parts at the moment, so it’s a vitesse, 2.4D, VDP EFi and a 2300 that’s getting the 2JZ treatment, but I’ll start uploading more videos regularly and longer with more content in them 😊
@dcpete547510 ай бұрын
We had a 1984 new mid blue 2400 SD in Holland 5 speed and beige velours. Series 2. I think you could adjust the suspension of the rear axle. Same VM engine in Alfa Romeo Alfetta.
@bob-ye9fr10 ай бұрын
Wow! Fired up - that's amazing. Didn't see many of these even back in the eighties. Good luck
@MrChaza3310 ай бұрын
Looking forward to watching this Sd1 get back to her former glory, good luck pal
@EdgyNumber110 ай бұрын
Haven't seen one of these for a good 25 years. Nice find. Hope to see this out n' about fully restored sometime in the future. Good luck 👍
@thenewviceroy10 ай бұрын
Fantastic looking old gal. Black suits it really well, and the pinstripes look pretty cool. Such low kms too. I always find it amazing how big modern cars have got when next to an 80s car- that golf looks massive! None of the style of the SD1 either. I look forward to seeing how you go with the project- best wishes from Australia
@koncorde10 ай бұрын
Seeing that centre console and blocky dash is a real flashback. My granddad got one of these, around '88 - I think a 3500 SE. It had been a police car at some point, but when he got it it had been sprayed metallic gold, with pinstripe red racing stripe below the door grooves and gloss black lower quarters - looked menacing. Engine was tuned by the previous bloke who had been a petrolhead - and the car had some nice modifications to the interior and dash that were police specific (along with obligatory disconnected siren and boot full of storage). First car I ever knew fully electric windows and sunroof.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Wow 😮 I think the next SD I’m going to be actively searching for is going to be a police one, many times I’ve nearly bought one and really they’ve all been 2600’s and naturally being young and tasteless I wanted a V8 ex police car, now I wouldn’t mind any spec, saddest thing is I missed on one for £800 a year years ago, I still kick myself to this day over it
@koncorde10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 Wish I remembered more about it. I just got told stories from the previous owner taking it around a private track and it handling like a rocket powered sled, and razzing past Porsche on the dual carriageway near us. Honestly, the thing shifted like you'd never thought from what was a "family saloon". What they'd call a "sleeper". Funniest bit for me is my Granddad was a chauffeur for execs, and he'd managed to get a series of exec level cars from people every decade or so. So he'd had a beautiful deep green Rover 2000 throughout the 70s, then got a Wolseley Princess in a burgundy, then the SD1 - just a lovely little fleet of cars. Then he was eligible for his motability in about '91 and sold up for a bloody bright red 5 door Vauxhall Nova. Our experience of luxury pile carpets, leather seats, and wood or metal fixtures and fittings came to an end - replaced by sterile grey plastic.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@koncorde As I say, I used to think of Rover as an older gents car, not so much a mad man’s sleeper, but really on reflection they made some pretty powerful cars, I’ll be honest my Vitesse still takes the odd 3 series/C class by surprise 😅 I went the other direction, from cheap tartan/plastic leather, with the faint wiff of 30 years of fags and cheap plastic in Calris, into a world of wood and real leather lol
@charliepower919210 ай бұрын
yeah I had a 2.6 VDP that was C REG I got it when it was 18 months old from auction with 86000 on it , it had that cigar smell in it . one job I had to do twice was replce the blower motor , bit of a pain that as removing all the dashboard etc but that was about it .
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
How long did you run her for?
@charliepower919210 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 can't remember but it towed our caravans for many years until I got a 110 landrover
@ianfrost352910 ай бұрын
My uncle had a sd1 2400 turbo diesel. He towed a caravan around Europe. Is was same year and remember his was very reliable
@clarehennessey365310 ай бұрын
I didn't know they made a diesel. I look forward to the resto. Liked and subscribed.
@Azureecosse10 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember them they had the same Italian sourced diesel in the Range Rover at that time I think the Range Rover from memory was tuned to have a higher HP output but could be wrong, memory failing me these days.
@hoddy121john10 ай бұрын
Very nice looking car, very rare, great find.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Thanks ☺️
@Rinty14510 ай бұрын
I remember some owners converting their Rovers to diesel, but I wasn't aware of them being factory fitted.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yeah that’s right, a friend of my dad’s back in the day swapped a 2.6 out for a Perkins 4 cylinder, and he ran that SD for years right upto his death in 2010, tediously slow is how he recalled it
@freeitstafford10 ай бұрын
The Charlie Clark plates brought back some memories of my teens spent in car showrooms around Stafford dreaming about things I'd never afford
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
It’s all out there for the taking now mate, hopefully my channel might give you the confidence to take a gamble on one of these classics, grab the car you always promised yourself!
@freeitstafford10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 I'm a hard core mini and metro fanatic, my last one, a turbo swapped MK2 metro gta, sold for 600 quid in 1999. These days they are 6 grand
@mancavehobbies621310 ай бұрын
Subbed yah . I had a SD1 2800 back in the day. Think i payed £50 and a couple of pints of beer and i gave him my fake Rolex watch also. When you could do deals in a pub those were the days. I drove it for 2 years until the doors fall off .
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I think exactly what you just said is what makes a real classic, if a car falls down to the value of being able to be traded over a pint and a packet of crisps it’s a classic, Ford Capri, Ford Escort, VW Scirocco etc etc all cars people of our age have an attachment too because everyone had access to them, and generally speaking the bigger engine models cost to much to insure or to keep in fuel, so now the years have past people are starting to go after the higher spec cars, and they’re cars a lot of people have an attachment too
@markdunstan827710 ай бұрын
Amazing find hope you bring it back to life
@JanisRubery10 ай бұрын
I had green one no engine problems at all i towed a ford cargo horsebox up the motorway to west bromich back in the day a good car and didnt cost a fortune to run. Nice find and hope you do well with the old girl. Mate. 👍👍🇬🇧
@lewis7210 ай бұрын
All diesel SD1s had electric windows all round. It was only available in one trim level, which was S. Early S2 model range was: 2000 2300 2300S, 2600S 2400SD 2600SE 3500SE 3500 VdP Vitesse Later S2 model range was: 2000 2300 2300S, 2600S 2400SD 2600 VdP 3500 VdP Vitesse 3500 VdP EFi
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
As I say I don’t know much about the diesels, but my friend had a diesel as his first car and he remarked at it have windy windows and windy sunroof, I didn’t realise the spec was pretty complete with the diesels, as I’ve had pretty much one of each other spec (aside a 2000 I am interested in finding a 2000) interesting to know cheers
@MrChaza3310 ай бұрын
My 85 diesel has all the mod cons 😆 4 electric windows electric sunroof, had an electric ariel but now standard oh and central locking now remote central locking, engine wise it's not a dragster but keeps up with modern mobility scooters
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@MrChaza33 Tbf me 2.4 Range Rover isn’t a rapid by any means, but it’s outlived about 4 V8’s so far 😂 very interesting, I think to be fair, they were fairly modular in ordering, for example I must have the only VDP EFi that doesn’t have leather or A/C, it’s effectively a vitesse auto, equally I’ve seen SE’s fitted with cruise control, AC Leather from new, I think if you were willing to pay they’d pretty much deliver what ever you wanted to a point, or at least that’s the impression I’ve got with them
@lewis7210 ай бұрын
@@MrChaza33 Yes, they were standard items even on the S model, which was below Vanden Plas & vanden Plas EFi.
@aliwatson736010 ай бұрын
Were alloys standard,too?
@steviemac807510 ай бұрын
Great channel, I used to work on these in the 1980’s as a panel beater. Loved these also I wasn’t aware of a 2:4 diesel. 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@nigelparrott694410 ай бұрын
I remember my manager at W.H.S Plymouth got a New one in 1981!
@markevans228010 ай бұрын
I doubt it, the diesel wasn’t out in ‘81
@garyfallows112310 ай бұрын
I owned 6 SD1's over time, from the original round clock dash to the later square dash, loved them, owned 2 v8's, 2 se's and 2 Vanden Plas, the diesel's were rare, i unfortunately never got to own a Vitesse
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
There’s still time yet! Vitesse’s naturally were saved in droves, and as they have become more and more popular, it does seem that more and more are getting dragged out of garages and sheds, and though they have gone up in price, they haven’t reached a point of being unobtainable, been a few recently sold for between £1500-£2000, obviously in about the same condition as my diesel
@johnwolcot10 ай бұрын
What an amazing car. I very much look forward to future uploads.
@concordelounge10 ай бұрын
The 2400SD was basically trimmed as per the 2600SE, hence the electric windows. As for the bonnet struts, my 1983 2000 had them, and my 1987 2300 did not. I suspect therefore that Rover switching over to the cheaper mechanical prop is an age thing, to cut costs, and stock of the strut-type bonnets was used up on the higher-end models.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
My friend had windy windows in the back and a windy sunroof in his, it sticks with him as it’s the only one he’s had with windy windows, the gas struts are strange, as I say I had a TP Vitesse that had them, but my vitesse’s and VDP EFi don’t they’re all mechanical prop, they all vary in age from 1983-1986 obviously I’ve seen the struts on many SD1’s just didn’t expect the diesel to have them, I expected her to be very low in spec, I tried the windows today and unbelievably.. all 4 open and close! How rare is that!
@Thenerdywalrus10 ай бұрын
Nice resto project, I also have a big diesel Rover, mine is the 825SD. I'd be very tempted to swap in the 3.1 5 cylinder VM engine
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I’m actually looking for an 825 dieeel myself, rare cars by their own right now
@rossmuller981510 ай бұрын
Looks like one that I recently picked up. Mine is a early v8. Good luck.
@sauluribe708210 ай бұрын
The Rovers did cracked the US market but briefly. The 3500, TC's.
@frothe4210 ай бұрын
California Models had fuel injection.
@davidmirolo10 ай бұрын
VM diesel unit. I presume the same as used in the Range Rover , my dad had the same engine in his one back in 1988 . Only problem was it cracked the heads , four separate heads , one on each cylinder. The engines were originally designed as marine engines and could be configured to suit the application, Alfa used them as well .
@johnmoruzzi723610 ай бұрын
I think some of the early 2300 sixes came with a 4 speed gearbox ! Nice car, great project !
@-DC-10 ай бұрын
5 Speed was a Cost Option 🙂
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
That’s right, and the irony is nowadays people have got some value to the gearboxes for drifting events
@david-hf3dk10 ай бұрын
I had an black R plate (1976-77) SD1 3500 manual in 1988-89. Nice drive. I never liked the automatic ones.
@MagnyCoors10 ай бұрын
Stoke On Trent registration probably James Edwards or CD Bramall or even Longton Motors. Nice find.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yes she’s a 1 owner car, and I picked her up from the outskirts of Stoke on Trent
@joeedwards62710 ай бұрын
They also briefly put the VM in the Range Rover classic in a similar period, not bad, wet liners as I remember, once liner seals failed it was pretty much game over as didn’t lend itself to economic repair, good luck great find
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I have a VM 2.4 classic and if memory serves me correctly it was ran in the classic for 18 months, making them equally rare, she’s underpowered and 50mph is about it outa her, I couldn’t tell you about the internals yet as I haven’t stripped a VM down, but I can imagine just as most older diesels it’s wet liners with the big rubber O rings at the bottom, not a fun job to do, especially if the liner is seized in
@joeedwards972110 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 I've had my land rover garage for 25 years now and I had very few VM R/rovers in back in the day which would probably confirm your thinking only an 18 month production period, to be fair when you look at what other diesel engines were available back then the VM was probably a good/ only choice for the range rover, the 200 TDI was obviously nearing development at land rover and all of a sudden they had an excellent efficient (back then) diesel engine and the VM disappeared, but...am I wrong? Probably but did it have a little spate in the next rover shape, 820 type things?
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@joeedwards9721 I’m not a LR fanatic but I do have a fair few Range Rovers, I think to my understanding they had the 2.4 in for a brief period of time then you can get the 2.5 VM in them again got a short period of time then they went 200 TDi, the 2.5 VM is the same engine as the 825 had, it had substantially more applications than the 2.4 in terms of vehicles, LDV Convoy, Rover 825, Jeep Cherokee there’s a hefty list, totally different engine, it has a solid 1 piece cylinder head on them, but I really can’t profess to me an expert on them much, well not yet anyway 😂
@Nicetomeeteveryone10 ай бұрын
If those are the cars original number plates that car was supplied from a local garage to me thats now become an Aldi supermarket. Happy memories of Charles Clark Stafford.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yes she’s a 1 owner car, and actually thanks for that mate I was contemplating at some point finding out if there dealership is still around and perhaps in the future getting a photo there, thanks for a bit of her history
@Nicetomeeteveryone10 ай бұрын
I went straight onto the web to try and find any photos or history of the garage. Was quite surprised to draw a blank. I did work experience there in about 1990. It briefly became a Honda dealership after Rover went bust. Then many years as a caravan and camping dealer, before Aldi took over the site.
@Timico100010 ай бұрын
The VM engine was obviously everwhere, mostly with 2.4 or 2.5l displacement: Alfa 90, Alfa 164, Chrysler Voyager, Ford Scorpio (after '92), Jeep Cherokee and probably some other cars i don't remember...
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Range Rover classic, LDV van, 825 diesel there is a large list but the 2.5 is significantly different to the 2.4, it is to put it kindly a vastly more modern and less municipal variant, the 2.4’s in a way we’re kinda pioneering in having a turbo on them, not so much for power but for economy, that said it’s not a huge effort to source a 2.4 engine, I actually sourced one prior to buying this car as I was going to make a replica, the piece that is just unobtainable is the 2 piece bell housing, literally nowhere has the gearbox half, most engines have the clutch cover bolted to the engine
@merikblackmore10 ай бұрын
It'll be nice to follow another diesel restoration as nitrosilvia's is just coming to a finish.
@WieDrDerJonge10 ай бұрын
Very nice find! I have the updated version of this VM diesel in my Frontera.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I never knew you got a VM in a frontera, been a long time since I’ve had one, I remember there’s a rarer one in the early mk1’s is that the VM? Or is it the other diesel choice? Isn’t it a 2.8 the regular one? And I’m guessing a 2.5 is the rare one?
@WieDrDerJonge10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 91-94 ois the 2.3 Opel diesel, 95-96 is the 2.8 Isuzu and 97-98 is the 2.5 VM. The 2.8 Isuzu is the rarest.
@matthewjenkins116110 ай бұрын
If that choke knob is original, it explains the high spec, in an era when diesels usually were very basically equipped. It of course suggests it was originally a petrol SD1.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
No, it is a one owner car, the choke is something to do with the cold start, in fact series 2 SD1’s (1980 onwards) have auto chokes on the petrols, so they don’t have a pull choke
@GenMaster12410 ай бұрын
Look forward to seeing the progress with this one 👍🏻👍🏻
@3114410 ай бұрын
I used to buy these back in the day for buttons then pull the engine (2.4 V+M) and drop it straight into a classic Range Rover, did quite a few, would drop the RR V8 back into the shell and sell them on as a V8 project 😂😂 quite lucrative tbh
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
So that’s where they all went!
@3114410 ай бұрын
Fabulous engines though, Italian made with roller bearing mains and so easy to work on, then they brought out a 2.5 version in the RR classic, I still think the 2.4 was the better engine though, it's copper head gaskets ( 4 of them, 1 for each head) were a work of art ❤️, that one does indeed need to be back on the road though and yes it should have fog lights in those apertures 👍
@chriswarren259910 ай бұрын
That is in remarkable condition!
@sefikempowermentcoachvilla784310 ай бұрын
Great content...... and collection on cars 😮
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Thanks ☺️
@daz905210 ай бұрын
I just love the look of these cars.
@AgathaAndAnything10 ай бұрын
New subscriber seems YT is pushing this one, good old 2.4D I vaguely recall from my landy days VM or York diesel? Can’t say I’ll watch all the vehicles but this looks right up my straza 👍
@smudgealdrin151210 ай бұрын
Thats not shabby at all .. easy resto . I have had a 3500 & 2600 .. until now I never knew there was a diesel. But back when I had mine it was just a cheap car out the free sheets I bought for the room to cart 3 kids & a dog about. I never looked for one... they kind of found me.
@doverdiver680310 ай бұрын
Lovely car that, can't believe it started ...
@grandadgamer839010 ай бұрын
I didn't think the diesel was sold in the UK. Never remember seeing one Great vid 😂
@graemedevine965110 ай бұрын
Get the tyres on it and get the engine warm then start it in gear and try the clutch a few times, try this a few times it should free up.
@loopwithers10 ай бұрын
Many new black diesel SD1 versions were palmed off - sorry - sold into Civil Service and MoD fleets. On departing the RMA Sandhurst onto the A30 eastbound, the Camberley Auto Factors Montego parts van, despite waiting for a geen light, habitually shut them down within the next 300m. A joy to behold. Fortune Favours the Brave...😂
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
That’s really interesting, and somewhat believable/makes sense, being as the diesel is some what more utilitarian than the petrols, fascinating thanks for that
@loopwithers10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 Personally I think that three issues coincided at that time: the 'nudge' from government to encourage businesses fleets to embrace the economies obtained from the 'new' turbo-diesels, the reluctance of traditional Rover customers to get diesel cars resulting in low sales and an overall sense that the marriage between that particular engine and that particular car seemed to have been somewhat hurried, resulting in NVH. Note that with the following model, the 820e was similarly unloved, similarly painted black and similarly hoofed off to civil servants and MoD drivers. Please send me a self adhesive gold star for my anorak lapel!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@loopwithers it’s in the mail! Again very interesting I have 800’s as well but not of that spec, I think they’re really unsung hero’s, SD1’s are becoming more popular, but an 827 fastback is 👌 a very nice car
@loopwithers10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTE ON 800 Series: Some base and lower spec 800s were fitted with the excellent automatic gearbox but did not have ABS included. It is vital to understand that on these models, this is a "widowmaker" combination. If you brake sharply and lose front traction, you can immediately stall the engine. As soon as you stall the engine, you lose the ability to restart it because your gear selector is still in 'drive' - BUT - your headlights are also extinguished (back to marker lights) and your power steering is disabled. I discovered this while hustling an 18 month old 820 auto through bends at night in the rain. I flagged this issue to RoSPA. They wrote back to say that the issue was beyond their remit. Do watch out for this combination of 'auto, non-ABS'. It should never have been released. Also ensure the ABS is working on your auto 800s. ✌️
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@loopwithers Wow never really thought about that before! That’s pretty interesting, and a situation I can imagine happening, I have a white 827SLi auto, and she’s non ABS, wow what an oversight on Rovers behalf
@carsnanidiot10 ай бұрын
I WAS ONLY GOING TO CHANGE THE PETROL TANK ON MY FORD SCORPIO 4X4. caps... I now redoing the whole back of the car. classic
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I remember doing very similar with a Capri a good few years ago, started off with fuel tank straps ended up with a full respray, best of luck mate!
@carsnanidiot10 ай бұрын
@verguy1937 Haha, yeah. Thanks. The good thing is now it is getting really solid again. 🙂 Good luck with your channel
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@carsnanidiot thanks ☺️
@GentilsGarage10 ай бұрын
Nice one, looking forward to see more.
@tomdrives10 ай бұрын
Hell yes
@MyJon6410 ай бұрын
James on Nitrosilvia has done a excellent job with his diesel SD1. I personally think a modern 6 cylinder diesel would complement the car. The original 2.4 td is loud, smokey and gutless!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I cringe at saying it, but an M57 3.0 conversion into an SD1 would probably make a very reliable, realistic and affordable transplant, engines are cheap there’s loads of conversion companies offering parts for them now, I’d imagine it’s been done and wouldn’t be particularly hard to do, but it would be a shame in terms of rarity to do it to a genuine 2400SD
@MyJon6410 ай бұрын
I personally wouldn't transplant another engine if my vehicle was an original 3.5 V8. I just think that 2.4 td unit doesn't do anything at all to complement the car.
@MrCwboot10 ай бұрын
Remember when I was young a bloke had one near me . Loved the shape of them but I was surprised at the time that it wasn’t a petrol v8! Thought they were all were at that point . If I remember it was a vm diesel or was it Perkins ?
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
It’s a VM 2.4, people did put the Perkins in them though, a man I knew growing up put a Perkins in his 2600
@dominicedwards911710 ай бұрын
Arrr cool Thanks, good luck with it all
@colinmiller55026 ай бұрын
Seem to recall that the 2.4 is a VM engine,not sure though.
@jonathanmorgan750310 ай бұрын
I passed my test in one. My dad's old company car passed onto my mum. Targa red reg B356PDD.
@mickapps315310 ай бұрын
I had one of these. Paid £25 for it as it failed mot on excess smoke, I backed the fuel pump back and it stopped smoking, got past the mot and then wound the pump right up. Used it for about a year and someone offered me £600 and I took it. Would be around year 2000.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Those were the days!
@ahuman986410 ай бұрын
Growing up, I always called these the council estate car. Riding my bike around, if you entered a neighborhood and saw one of these, there’s a freckled little nutter around the corner ready to nick your bike.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I remember the 90’s well 😆
@therealisation550010 ай бұрын
My dad was given one as a company car we were all very excited especially after the Alfa Romeo he had before that went down like a lead balloon but what a heap of shite won't start if it was hot which was a problem because you couldn't open the bonnet the windows wouldn't open unless you were doing 60 then they would fall open simultaneously it was rusty when it came and within six months fell apart on the driveway
@ricardowebbs520710 ай бұрын
Mates mum had a sd1 2400, first turbo car I ever drove! SWG100Y still on database but probably dead now- untaxed for 30 years...
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I hope she’s sat in a garage or field somewhere! I’m sure I’ve seen you reference that plate in the club? Seems very familiar, early for a diesel
@ricardowebbs520710 ай бұрын
She had it for quite a few years, I remember expecting a thump of power when the boost came on- I was slightly disappointed!😂 what was the output, around 90bhp? Will watch with interest.
@ricardowebbs520710 ай бұрын
Was 90bhp, just checked.👍
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@ricardowebbs5207 sounds about right lol
@jammiedodger62910 ай бұрын
Manual choke on a turbo diesel?. bit odd lol. Looks in fairly good order apart from the inner arches. Nice colour combo though, the black / Red interior does suit the car. Looks like original dealer plates and stickers, nice find!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yeah I thought that was strange gunna look into the manual choke on her, thanks it’s been a long search finally come to its end 😊
@jammiedodger62910 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937I've subb'd so I'll look forward to the coming months and restoration with interest!. You're a good bloke for taking this project on, these rovers are a rare sight on the roads and you've grabbed a bit of a unicorn there. whatever you do , don't give up on the old girl mate!!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@jammiedodger629 I semi specialise in classic Rovers’s she’ll 100% get back onto the road, I’ll await my go pro and then I’ll start the lengthy process of stripping her back and then putting her back together lol
@H71BCD10 ай бұрын
We had one years ago. It is a cold start / fast idle control, however it is a bit strangely positioned.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@@H71BCD I thought that was what it would be
@EveryThingCars5310 ай бұрын
I didn't even now they made a SD1 with a diesel.How many are left on the road
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Well, this is actually a tough question to answer, as this one if you do an MOT check on her comes up as a “Rover SD1” rather than a 2400SD Turbo, according to howmanyleft.com there’s 4 2400S Turbos on the road/taxed but I don’t know if that’s a fair assessment, as some of them could be sorned and scrapped and like mine there’s probably more out there that aren’t registered as a 2400SD Turbo, the only thing I can say with any certainty is that there really can’t be many left
@focus341510 ай бұрын
Did you know about the mot it had on the 28th March 2006 she had 17 failures which were all probably done as on the 26th of May she passed with only 2 advisories with 67.352 miles on the clock
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
The first thing I did with her was check the online MOT history, she comes up as a “ROVER SD1” rather than a 2400SD Turbo, it was shocking the amount she failed on! That is pretty much all the history I have of her, and I’d imagine it’s pretty straight I wouldn’t think she’s been clocked
@peterjanvanbijnen22610 ай бұрын
it has an italian VM diesel engine
@MagnusMaximusinWales6 ай бұрын
That is a proverbial set of hen's gnashers!
@chiefrocka860410 ай бұрын
Perfect SD Turbo wanted £5000 waiting all day every day
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Maybe one’ll come up, there was a red diesel on eBay they were asking something like £10,000 for it but really I think in the real world it’s perhaps closer to £5,000 for one, but as with many other things it’s what someone is willing to sell it for and what someone is willing to pay I guess
@craigh571410 ай бұрын
Was this a diesel you said? Never seen a diesel before!
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yep she’s a 2.4 diesel turbo ☺️
@charliemuggins794310 ай бұрын
How many Chickens do you plan on keeping in there mate!...lol!.
@adampowell537610 ай бұрын
The diesel must be very rare these days.
@richarddavis437810 ай бұрын
I never knew they even made a diesel
@S.and.K-Works10 ай бұрын
Diesel with a choke lever?
@julianowens407110 ай бұрын
I was really hoping you’d fire her up
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I have a video of her running, I guess I can start her again when I’m back with her in the light
@DarrenJones04210 ай бұрын
That engine looks more like a VM or even a Perkins
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
That’s right mate she’s a VM
@BillyNoMates197410 ай бұрын
A choke on a diesel ?
@rwest181810 ай бұрын
SD1 diesel with a choke pull on the dashboard?
@davidrix80410 ай бұрын
One of the headlamp chrome trims is missing!,just remove one existing as looks better without them.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
No it’s not missing mate it’s in the car, the clips are broke on that one and I didn’t want it falling off while in transit
@PuntoHowto10 ай бұрын
Well that’s an accent I know you must be from my neck of the woods (Norfolk)
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
A lot of people seem to think I have a Norfolk accent, but Shropshire born and bred 😬
@PuntoHowto10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 very weird I was still not 100% on it even after I posted. Looks like you’ve got quite a lot of work ahead of you
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@PuntoHowto Indeed! I’m outlaying some of the project cars we are working on at the moment, offering a bit of variety, but this is only a very small portion of the classics we have, some won’t be getting featured for a year or more
@PuntoHowto10 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 there seems to be a lot of love for this car, you’ve had loads of interest in this video compared to others on the channel, for me it came up as a suggested video
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
@PuntoHowto very rare being a diesel, I posted a video of one of the V8’s last night to kinda see which car people prefer, I’ll feature both of them but it’s lovely to see people giving the diesel the attention it deserves 😊
@TheBlaert10 ай бұрын
Had one of these for a few months in the early 90's. It wasn't good. Not a fault of the car itself but simply because it was bought from a dodgy bloke at an even dodgier auction and I should've known better. At least it was cheap
@charliepower919210 ай бұрын
looks like the same lump out of the RR
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
That’s right, the same engine was used in the clsssic
@KarlHamilton10 ай бұрын
Hold on. 2 batteries? Lol. Who knew.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I must admit I was surprised when I first popped the bonnet to see 2 tiny batteries 😂
@dominicedwards911710 ай бұрын
How much will that cost to get back on the road?
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
So, this is something I would like to lay out along the build, she cost me £1000 and transport cost a further £200, I’ll keep a track of the spending throughout, it is hard to say with any rebuild as you can’t really cost all the repairs and there is always something unforeseen, and you always get that bargain part along the way, but from my experience with SD1’s I’d imagine this is going to cost around £4-£5000 to get back into a good workable condition for me, I mention for me as I have local contacts with interior restorers, paint shops etc
@andrewwmacfadyen695810 ай бұрын
The boat engine
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
The very one
@dukemasters682910 ай бұрын
Why a diesel
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I have V8’s and 6 pots, I guess the diesel is the unicorn, really not many of them left nowadays
@peppermintdog10 ай бұрын
Loos like it has a choke pull on the dashboard, didn’t think diesel’s had them,
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I’m gunna investigate the choke a little later on today, I imagine it’s to pull to get the engine warm on a cold start, as the oil should get to running temp before driving for the turbo
@concordelounge10 ай бұрын
That, apparently is for the cold start circuit and unique to the diesel. Ironically, series 2 petrol SD1s were on automatic or electronic chokes and didn't have a choke lever. I think the diesel one was a Land Rover part.
@BPJJohn10 ай бұрын
Engine Swap IMO.
@jontimms374410 ай бұрын
FairPlay to you. The diesel version was terrible. The SD1 could’ve been fantastic if it wasn’t built by brummies with shocking management…
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
In all fairness, what car are you comparing an SD1 to mate? The equivalent BMW/VW/Audi etc haven’t really weathered any better or worse lol
@flexiblebirdchannel10 ай бұрын
Oh, looks like a Volvo 480 with 4 doors. But the Volvo was better quality.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Can’t really argue with that on the reliability point, I kinda see what you mean about in appearance, but I’ve always thought they have a strong similarity to a Citroen BX at the front
@karrielewis939010 ай бұрын
Horrible 2.4 VM Italian engine. Cylinder heads are all separate but interlinked. Cylinder 3 went in mine. 😤😤🤯
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Yes they crack, I’m not overly familiar with the VM I have one in a classic Range Rover but thankfully never had to put a spanner to her, it’s just always been slow and Smokey 🤣
@karrielewis939010 ай бұрын
@@thatroverguy1937 it was a broken valve and the piston smashed it into the head. They also put the same engine into the Jeep Cherokee XJ models.
@Imagineering10010 ай бұрын
These things look good but typical English car unreliable junk money pit.
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
Could be worse, could be German
@Imagineering10010 ай бұрын
Yes @@thatroverguy1937
@wayneoriordan674910 ай бұрын
Horrible engine I look after a old range rover with vm in it
@thatroverguy193710 ай бұрын
I have a classic with the 2.4 in her, I’ll be completely honest we use her as a yard shunter and occasionally take her down the road for a cruise, but yeah very underpowered, tbf never skipped a beat and always been a great starter