ROX DRAGON KNEE Lever Review (LIMITED EDITION)

[@JuKe6]

Dude, your production value is on point. You deserve more subscribers.

[@easygoingdude9990]

I'm just watching the video cause you're damn good at making them

[@alexnostalgix]

thx good sir!

[@PhiDX]

Now that I have the 222nd in-hand, can confirm the limited run has a different grommet. The newer one is way more consistent afaik, I have to test it in the newer knee bodies

[@GamerGriff]

Guys the knee lever is actually worth it. Been messing around with mine for about three weeks and it definitely a perfect choice if your coming from JLf and want to try out the Korean side. The tension is light yet stiff. I’ve been using several other lever and I can say it’s perfect for the middle guy.

[@استغفراللهواتوباليهالعذروالسمو]

GamerGriff 3387 what tension do you use

[@31IVI3jZ]

dang might try out the knee, only used jlf and hayabusa but wanna try a korean lever was thinking 309 mj or this

[@GamerGriff]

@@31IVI3jZ I have both , the 309 mj is good it just doesn’t go back to neutral like the knee lever. But by default the knee lever has a heavier gourmet inside the actual stick which allows that snappy feeling back to neutral. But you can always buy a heavier gourmet for the 309

[@TKMichinaga]

Can you suggest this for beginners?

[@alexnostalgix]

I was going to save this info for another video but, if you would like a high collar Knee lever. The 2019 Myoungshin collar fits.

[@fithpro]

how bout with fujin v2? is it fit?

[@alexnostalgix]

** Correction 2/1/2020** Hey guys so the 47c actuator is a 15.6mm, it looks my actuators may have gotten mixed up with some others. However the stronger switches still makes for a narrower-er corner in comparison to the Knee lever. I still hold pretty much to my conclusion in the comparison between the 47c and knee lever, though the difference in corners are similar. This also means for those of you who want cleaner execution, a smaller actuator may be able to help.

[@AISciFiStories]

Bruh Alex your video is so engaging, funny, perfect transitions, pacing, music, best intro, production value is above anything i've seen from tekkeb youtubers. your cinematogrphy is better than most youtubers in general! holy hell, i was engaged the whole time and i have no idea what you're talking about. nice matches tonight btw. we should play more often.

[@zilents6896]

Finally the review I have been waiting for is HERE!

[@alexnostalgix]

ja'welcome fren

[@ericoriama1616]

Even though this lever was made for Knee, I must admit... it REALLY is a great lever for those who are starting or curious to switch from a Sanwa JLF to a Korean Lever. Thx Alex. Love your pro video editing skills.

[@kawaiihaki2480]

i just got this lever for my first korean lever, only been playing fighting games and using arcade sticks since December of last year, and i fit it into my victrix pro FS gen 2 JUST barely with out having to cut anything on my victrix's case. this lever feels AMAZING, im instantly way more confident than i was on my JLF or Hori Hayabusa levers, i struggled with movement even after 300 hours of japanese stick, in just 35 hours on this knee lever i can already do perfect electrics on kazuya, i practiced every day for HOURS on my JLF and hori and would maybe hit it 1/4 times after so many hours, i sat down after installing this bad boy, and hit practice mode with kazuya, and was able to hit my P electric 4-5 times in a row right off the start. and my wave dash IS SO MANY TIMES cleaner now on this lever, in your last round up i remember you said that sometimes on a JLF you mess up wave dash by jumping on accident by over compensating, i also had this issue but for some reason i couldnt stop my muscle memory from jumping in between wave dashes, i havent had this happen once since my knee lever. honestly super happy with this and im gonna try out the gamer fingers because of you as well, i just ordered 4red translucent 30mm with silver switches to match the red and gray aesthetic i have going with my victrix already, my other 4 L1 R1 R2 L2 im going to leave as my sanwa gen 2 silents i think the contrast of buttons will look good, and help me feel when my fingers are too far over on the stick so i dont accidently hit R1 anymore and rage art. i also used to ride the gate super hard on my JLF, but i dont have that issue at all with the knee lever its tension is just so much higher i feel like i dont ever hit it hard enough to slam it into the gate. personally i dont think im going to change anything on this lever. it feels perfect.

[@PaperTigerLive]

Nice to hear! Any updates or are you still enjoying?

[@MJJUTSU]

Would you recommend this lever to someone who is new to using a stick?

[@takohma1056]

I was looking for reviews on the Samducksa buttons and found this wonderful surprise lol. That lever looks amazing.

[@SunZMagic]

That Rox Dragon battop dude ! Looks clean af 😍

[@alexnostalgix]

right! its small taste but so gewd

[@marvelouscustomspakistan4549]

This dude needs subs!!! ❤

[@hou5eheadjason]

just installed mine , so far I love it , coming from a 309 mj it feels pretty similar to me easy adjustment , it does have a slight different feel thats hard to explain but feels good , I prefer the tension of how this and 309 mj stock feels , not to heavy in the hand like a fanta would be but thats just me , 10/10 for me

[@Hankshaw47]

Great vid, as many mention production is on point. Got Knee lever as my first k-lever, one part because I like Knee, one part because I liked the idea of larger corners and one part because I like you. Been using it for a few weeks and still not able to hit the corners consistently, pleas send help. The learning process of a k-lever is pretty steep but the Knee lever is a joy to use regardless.

[@Speedo94]

How do u not have more subscribers bro the production value is on point bro keep it up man!

[@bingodabomb]

Your production value is on point keep it up!

[@Vespyr_]

Hope they will make more of these.

[@davidpartida2513]

Great review helped me on whether or not to get into Korean levers for my fight stick very happy with my purchase

[@HystericalHuntress]

I got to try one of these levers on someone else's setup the other day and.. yeah. Pretty closely mimics the 'jack of all trades, master of none' feel I get from certain Crown levers but just.. a bit more premium I guess, with a sort of Alpha-esque sheen to it due to the flat collar although as you mentioned it has a full length throw. All-in-all not for me and I will still be sticking to my Fujin III. Though, lmfao, can't say I'm doing mad experimentation with shaft size and such. I love the lever as-is. The Knee kind of feels like an Alpha lever if the Alpha lever series had the smooth, balanced feel of Crown levers. Almost like the Alpha 47/49 and the Crown 309K HELPME had a baby. That's the best way I can describe it myself but idk if that echoes everyone else's feelings.

[@austinlux8984]

So glad I stumbled on your channel. Very very very good content.

[@alexnostalgix]

Awesome, thank you!

[@ahopegg6107]

"how knee felt in my hands" had me cackling

[@venomblade891]

Great content as always bro!

[@16aravan]

awesome i went from hayabusa to seimitsu to 309 mj with all grommets and next week im getting the knee lever delivered. can't wait

[@joshs8563]

Ive been trying to get some info on korean levers to know what i can do. I have a Vitcrix FS so i imagine my options are very limited ( not looking to drill at the time). Been looking for that otto v2 but was thinking for 40 more i can get the Knee lever. But thanks to your videos ive got a lot of info. Very informative vids and light jokes make it great content. Looking forward to new vids. Subscribed

[@PhiDX]

Was about to ask for this review in one of the roundups! I’m a die hard JLF user and this lever felt crazy tense. It sounds like compared to the others though it isn’t particularly stiff?

[@alexnostalgix]

yeah this one was defintely was softer fanta lever imo. The grommet in the best way I can explain it feels something like a 30-32a grommet with a return of the 35a. Less harsh that my fujin, 47c and base myoungshin forsure.

[@philam64]

Alex Nostalgix Thanks for the reply! I stopped riding the collar and it started feeling really good... might be a convert soon haha

[@alexnostalgix]

I'm slowly learning not to ride the collar as well :) as of recently

[@Boro87]

'Welcome to the revolution' is from an old arcade game involving aerosmith i think. I dont remember the name but you could shoot cd's

[@alexnostalgix]

The one I'm using is actually from Capcom Vs.SNK2 but I think that Aerosmith game may have something similar, think its called Revolution X or something.

[@moosha786]

Excellent review you deserve more subs

[@alvinkim1305]

Subbed because of the epic chair slide!

[@Viewer13128]

1:37 what was the problem? does it affect all limited editions?

[@alexnostalgix]

Just the limited, something about the red mold being inconsistent. The ones they released were fine but there was suppose to be another batch or something but was defective or something

[@TheElectricUnderground]

The knee lever looks like it has a funky throw

[@jonyfraze]

Gdlk review fam... thinking of finally picking up a k-lever. Considering this or a sanjuks v3. What do you think?

[@alexnostalgix]

I'm assuming you mean the V5 since the V3 is the jlf/semitsu variant. The Sanjunks has a shorter throw and comparable to a 309mj but like a Ferrari version of quality and parts. In terms of feel against the knee lever however I haven't had the time to compare them side by side. Funny you asked since I'm going to doing a video the sanjuks levers soon :)

[@lit_wick]

Can you talk about the mod you've done to your HRAP N? Looks nice

[@alexnostalgix]

Mod? I haven't done any mods unless you meant the vinyl wrap

[@lit_wick]

@@alexnostalgix Curious about the 24mm buttons. Did you instal a brook board and dremel out those extra holes?

[@alexnostalgix]

@@lit_wick ohhhhh I totally forgot. Yeah it's a brooks board and the buttons are some random push buttons from Amazon. They are actually like 16mm I think and are screw top so I just widened the whole alittle bit.

[@olbaze]

Have you heard about the Cool Bear Lever that's in development by Blunderbuss Designs? What about reviewing the 309 Benylis or the Golden Lever? Or the ASI square/octagonal short collars?

[@alexnostalgix]

The cool bear is probably the one I'll be doing next. Golden lever is too expensive for me to really give it a try and regards to the 309benylis I will compare to another lever but won't have a dedicated video as it still feels like a 309mj. The collars are cool but doubtful I'll do a video.

[@Vhaanzeit]

I have a cool bear lever. It uses an actual true circle gate unlike the majority of levers. If you take a regular Myoungshin (or any other Korean standard) people naturally assume that the collar is actually what produces the 'gate' of the lever. In fact, on the underside of most levers, there's actually a chamfered square like you'd find even on a regular Sanwa JLF except you can't actually change it. The Cool-Bear lever is one of the only levers I've ever known that has opted for a true-circle gate (outside of changing it yourself on a Sanwa JLF for example). It makes for gliding around the gate really smooth with regards to things like wave dashes and the like. It also features a removable collar (super clever addition) so Japanese stick users can fit it into theirs. Also being on a circle gate doesn't negatively affect KBD as some may think.

[@VulcanBaum687]

Diggin' the salt lamps.

[@jaex663]

Amazing video as usual, Alex! The production quality 😫💓 One day, I hope to make my reviews look this good.

[@MouMouhDS2]

Can you do same video for knee lever neo standard, and comparing them together ?

[@chucklos391]

Anyone know the music in the beginning of this?

[@johnenricoudan3173]

Nice review! Would you say that this lever would work with 2D/Tag Fighters like BBTag?

[@alexnostalgix]

I play Eliza in tekken, 2d character archetype, so it's a middle ground. I've used Korean lever for 2D fighters before but I found short throw like the 309mj series to be more desirable. 47c or 49s would be great aswell since the throw is close to the same as a MJ. The bigger diagnols of the knee lever though are awesome to have tho!

[@johnenricoudan3173]

@@alexnostalgix Awesome! Thanks for the reply!

[@rickrude7868]

Did u do a Infiltration vs knee Lever? Thanks for this video now I can buy my knee lever with confidence

[@cosmic5368]

im curious about your thoughts on the Golden Lever, Ive been playing on a stock Japanese stick with a Sanwa lever for 5 years now & I have zero knowledge when it comes to Korean levers and modding, but I had the chance to play on a couple of korean levers at my local and I was hooked.

[@alexnostalgix]

I haven't played on a golden lever, I've seen some good and I've seen some bad honestly. The pricing is what I feel is its weak point but it does bring modding options all in one place makes for easier user experience.

[@capobum1139]

A friend of mine is interested in this stick. Wondering if you know if it fits in a Madcatz TE2 without altering the TE2

[@alexnostalgix]

focusattack.com/ist-knee-lever/ Search button 🔎

[@QwikDa1st]

Excellent job! Subbed.

[@bludika]

Can you do a review on the new Help Me lever that arcadeshock just released? Thanks!

[@alexnostalgix]

New Help me and short collar Taeyoung are actually on route already. I can't say when as I have project for a client and another video in the making plus going on a vacation for a week! 👏

[@bludika]

Alex Nostalgix ty I'm dying to see how the help me lever is with the modification

[@gindagema3884]

Question: Currently I have crown 309mj and Im curious about how it feels since knee lever neo has round square gate. Reason i ditched my hori due to get so I am kinda worried about the gate of knee lever neo.

[@selfiedon2115]

The dustwasher that comes with the knee lever, ive seen ppl put it inside the stick and not outside at the top ...where doest that go?

[@colemanjones4374]

So I am about to buy my first premium fight stick and currently I'm leaning towards a etokki omni with the taeyoung fanta lever. One thing I am worried about though is that I am coming from a hori mini stick which is very loose. This is the pad I learned on (I play street fighter but I may add other games in the future) and I feel like I would prefer a stick with less resistance because of that. I know the stick on the omni comes with a very stiff grommet. I'm wondering if you think replacing with a looser grommet would be a good way to go or if there is any other lever you would reccomend instead. I wouldn't mind paying a little bit more for a separate lever if it's a decent improvement

[@alexnostalgix]

What I usually recommend for someone who isn't sure about tension is grab some the tension grommets that are available. Since the Taeyoung typically comes with the 45a, its the highest tension you can get, so going lower is pretty much your only option. I would say start with a 40a,35a,30a grommets to get a feel of which one may fit your alley then if you feel you need even less than you will know :)

[@colemanjones4374]

@@alexnostalgix Okay great, thanks. Do you know if the taeyoung will accept the grommets that are used in fujins.

[@alexnostalgix]

yeah all fanta levers and interchangeable for the most part

[@rayisdashit]

nice video! your setup makes my neck hurt though

[@bludika]

This lever is good but I hate how the dust cover doesn't really fit the shaft tightly, the hole is a tab bit too big

[@alexnostalgix]

Yeah i dont know why they didnt just use the alpha dust cover as it fits more tightly rather than the generic one.

[@jonathanshihadeh]

Love mine

[@hou5eheadjason]

also hoping for different color battops in the future

[@BadChaker]

That's sad, I wanted to buy one from IST but was too late. Now I ordered a Golden Lever, though I'm a mediocre player overall. Doesn't matter, but the Golden Lever is like the holy grail of the levers. Can't wait to get it! P.S.: Great Content! Love it!

[@silkroadCEO]

Be careful with those brass parts

[@BadChaker]

@@silkroadCEO why? Are there any issues?

[@jaycha4983]

Damian Dessler Where did you order it? I looked for one but it was sold out :(.

[@BadChaker]

@@jaycha4983 there are two other resellers from Japan named Attasa

[@jaycha4983]

Damian Dessler Thanks my man! Will order one today!

[@newtypehuman]

Do you recommend this for beginners or 309 mj ?

[@alexnostalgix]

65.00 bucks quite a lot to dive into the cesspool that can be Korean levers. I would suggest the 309MJ or Fanta 24gn to start out on. The knee lever can work for 1st timers but just would suck to spend that much only to find out later you wont/dont like it.

[@newtypehuman]

@@alexnostalgix can you review the Benylis in your next round up k levers video?

[@alexnostalgix]

@@newtypehuman unfortunately I don't have a round up video planned for a while. As for the Benylis I don't think I'll be making a dedicated video anytime soon as I have other vids in the pipeline

[@gohan2355]

You going to do a review of the almighty qanba obsidian in 2020

[@TKMichinaga]

If you put the Omrom switch in the Golden lever in the Knee lever how is the performance?

[@matiaszabala756]

hi alex, i want to buy a lever, it deserve spend more in the alpha 49S than 47C??? I have a crown 309 benelys and often miss the imputs in the diagonals; i play Eliza too and the instant dive kick usually are a problem or what lever do you recomend me i have a Qanba Obsidian

[@newtypehuman]

What is the actuator size before you change it ?

[@alexnostalgix]

02:46

[@hou5eheadjason]

In stock at arcade shock now

[@Section8dc]

Hey buddy I'm thinking about getting an Ettoki Omni, what stick do you recommend to go with it? I'm kinda new at this and I have a razer Panthers evo, and i want to try Korean but I want the best of everything to go with the Omni when I get it.

[@Noum77]

That sick intro though

[@alexnostalgix]

stil the funnest one i made yet

[@EseaGhost]

Intro too good. :peepoPray:

[@POROSH19]

What's will be your ratings out of 10. Sanwa jlf vs knee?

[@TheRomi18]

What lever you prefer for kazuya players? right now I use sanwa lever because that come with my arcadestick... please reply

[@alexnostalgix]

Unfortunately I don't think there is a"perfect" lever for a specific character. However I would maybe suggest the Taeyoung Fanta possibly for some flexibility.

[@TheRomi18]

@@alexnostalgix so should i get low colar taeyoung fanta? or 303 cdp lever? knee lever?and what about golden lever lol

[@fredo19]

How would you compare the alpha 49s to the knee?

[@ZahmbeesFGC91]

Are you able to put a sanwa jlf lever in the knee lever?

[@Cezkarma]

What do you mean? Both the Sanwa JLF and Knee lever are the levers that you would put inside of your arcade stick

[@yyuseii3257]

Can this fit in the qanba drone? I'm planning to get this instead of the 309 MJ

[@shocknawe]

Hey, Alex, love your vids. Quite insightful, even though you don't play 2D games (my main interest). Did you try the 301 Infiltration? I really wanted to know how it compares to the Knee (which I bought, thanks in most for to your insight :P) given it was made for 2D games. Also, I think I've never asked you: how come you don't like the JLF? Once you put an octo on it, the diagonals basically disappear hahahah hashtagIreallydontlikethestockJLF

[@alexnostalgix]

The 301 is actually one of the crows I have yet to try, probably in the future just not at the moment. Your timing is kind of funny with the JLF as I dont really hate jlfs....unless their stock. I had a bad experience with a shit Hori Hyabusa that had plenty of ricochet and then a stock JLF that was just way too soft which kind of jaded me. Then I got a new japanese style lever (sanjuks v3) and then tried playing on the jlf again with some small mods again which I ended up enjoying. I like the octo gates as its usually what I prefer but I just like the way korean levers reach the actuation of the switch is all.

[@chrisgonzales2747]

I play Street Fighter V. I was thinking of getting this product 🤔. Right now I'm using a Hayabusa. Do you recommend this for a first time Korean style buyer?

[@alexnostalgix]

Usually recommend the crown 309mj or the 49s on the fanta side of things for someone just getting started

[@31IVI3jZ]

Idk what should be my first Korean lever coming from a JLF. Crown 309 or knee lever anyone have any opinions someone’s who’s never tried Korean levers

[@amanuelougol6754]

Song title pls

[@LodanZark]

I though the knee lever was based on the 49s and not the 47c

[@alexnostalgix]

its based off the alpha series in general. It's closer in tension to the 47c but sharing the same switches from the 49s.

[@timsz5064]

is this compatible for Qanba Drone?

[@alexnostalgix]

I wouldn't be able to say since I don't have a drone but I know they struggle for space in some cases. Golden lever is pretty thick so I doubt it but the CB is more compact.

[@chloe_player4031]

That intro itself most likely took more effort to make than like 90% of Videos on KZbin

[@alexnostalgix]

thanks friend.......i try to make the intro fun at the very least for you guys :)

[@marvelouscustomspakistan4549]

Using 309mj currently with st35 rubber....how much this lever will effect my gameplay?? And if effects are negative then what changes should i do to my knee lever.... waiting for ur response

[@alexnostalgix]

You may feel the knee lever softer in comparison which you can use the gersung a3's or bump up the tension to a regular 35a or 40a. As for how it will affect you and the steps to take to fine tune for yourself is something I can't really answer as changes in the lever isn't the same for everyone.

[@marvelouscustomspakistan4549]

@@alexnostalgix you are right about all ur points u have mentioned... i have alreday got A3 zippies and regular st35 rubber spare.....

[@marvelouscustomspakistan4549]

@@alexnostalgix ill test it soon and will share the experience with u.... by the way you are doing a great job....keep it up bro

[@ShellBulletNinja]

Do you know if this would fit in a victrix pro fs?

[@alexnostalgix]

Unfortunately I havent seen myself, but I think Hurtboxtv did a video on putting a korean lever in victric in general which could help.

[@ShellBulletNinja]

@@alexnostalgix thank you, I'll check it out

[@pagman7338]

Will this fit in a Etokki Omni?

[@alexnostalgix]

Yes.

[@Speedo94]

What would you recommend for a first time stick user who plays 2D & 3D fighters?

[@alexnostalgix]

Tbh, there is no answer for that as everyone preference is the different.

[@Speedo94]

@@alexnostalgix I hear that bro I’m so confused on where to even start lol... thanks man

[@n-allen876]

Btw is that a rap n

[@alexnostalgix]

yes is it good sir

[@kord3ddesigns]

i know that dude in the intro he is so toxic lol

[@TheBah89]

You are so cool!

[@alexnostalgix]

YOUR ARE COOLER :)

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

You should test out your arcade sticks on Virtua Fighter, Dead or Alive, SoulCalibur, Marvel vs Capcom and vice versa.

[@alexnostalgix]

I don't play those games. Pretty simple as I only play Tekken with a 2D style character so I "should'nt" have to play anything I'm not interested in. :)

[@chadunnering5733]

Now you can do tju with no effort haha

[@criticalfailure92]

pause

[@muto4467]

Classic Superiorware, he lowkey toxic

[@alexnostalgix]

i had no clue tbh

[@jonathanshihadeh]

Does anyone elses squeak like crazy?