Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 | First Look (UK) |

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Please Note :
As I am away from my Desktop PC, I have used a different (and unfamiliar) editing software, which just about managed to work with my old and slow laptop. Unfortunately, this video isn’t quite as good as usual. Hopefully you will find it useful, and enjoy watching nonetheless.
Thanks for watching.
Roger at Crewe Motorcycle Centre, invited me to have a look at the new Royal Enfield Himalayan 450.
Brief Specifications :
Type : Liquid cooled, single cylinder, DOHC, 4 valves.
Disp : 452cc
Max power : 40.02ps (29.44kw) @ 8000rpm
Max Torque : 40NM @ 5500rpm
Fuel consumption : 3.59L/100km
G/box : 6 speed
W/base : 1510mm
Ground Clearance : 230mm
Length : 2245mm
Width : 852mm
Height : 1316mm
Seat height : 825mm (std adj to 845mm)
805mm (low adj to 825mm)
Kerb weight : 196kg
Fuel capacity : 17 litre
ABS : Duel channel, switchable
UK Prices (don’t quote me on these, I looked on Google)
Base : Kaza Brown £5750
Pass : Slate Himalayan Salt £5850
Slate Himalayan Poppy Blue £5850
Summit : Hanle Black (Tubed) £6050
Kamet White (Tubeless) £6250
Hanle Black (Tubeless) £6300
Crewe Motorcycle Centre :
www.crewemotorcyclecentre.co.uk/
Itchy Boots :
• Royal Enfield Himalaya...
Following the comments, it’s only fair to mention that, the Gold Tubeless Spoked wheels are not available due to a production issue. They maybe available later this year (2024).

[@jezza117]

itchy boots completed 4,500km on her prototype [ genius piece of PR by RE in my humble opinion ] and she's a very competent rider and I noticed straight from her first ride on it while riding down this horrible gravely road, she went into tourist mode and showed her viewers the amazing scenery, you don't do that on a bad handling bike, looks like RE have another winner on their hands and if its under or around £6k mark, their gona sell shedloads.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Jezza. I thought that making a reference to Itchy Boots (and adding a link), could tell the story far better than I could. You are 100% correct, there was no hesitation when she first took it out. An excellent ploy by RE ! In the description, I have listed the prices I found on Google this morning. They are competitive, though obviously more than the older Himi, unsurprisingly considering the upgrades, and hardware. Thanks for the comment, appreciated.

[@jimmyjam8795]

Starts at £5750 up to £6300. The levels, base, pass and summit.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@jimmyjam8795 yes, I put this info in the description 👌

[@zeppast]

I've seen a lot of comparisons between the new Himalayan 450's and the new Triumph 400x and I don't understand why. The two bikes are completely different bikes they arn't even in the same segment besides price. These new Himalayan's are ADV's laser focused in regards to offroad use where as the 400x is as advertised it's a scrambler meant for not much more then soft trails at best. I have no doubt the new Triumph 400x is a solid bike for the money but anyone who knows better knows it's a street bike trying to wear it's ADV dad's clothes that don't fit.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I totally agree, the Triumph is a dressed up roadster, whereas the Himi 450 is more off road biased. The Triumph will suit a lot of people, who don’t intend to go getting down and dirty, the Himi will thrive in it. Two different animals. Thanks for the comment.

[@logangodofcandy]

Middle size engine bikes with some off road ability introduced in India just months apart. They do compete for most of the same sales.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@logangodofcandy yes, but the Himi 450 will be able to cope with more rugged terrain, being designed more towards off road . The Triumph is more of a road bike, made to look like an off roader. 😉

[@dinomalta712]

Nothing to add! Every road tester loves it, everyman and his dog love the way it looks, let me at it! Cheers Ian, DINO.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks for the comment though Dino, always appreciated 😎 Just need to get my bum on it now 😂

[@blearyview2254]

Nice one Ian, nice early access and a good look around. They will probably sell by the bucket load.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Alex, I have just googled UK prices, and left in the description. I think they are going to be another hit for RE. I look forward to finding out what their road manners are like, after all not all owners will venture too far into the mountains here in the UK. Cheers

[@TheNorfolkThunderbolt]

I like that! Especially the black and gold colour!

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Steven. Yes, a very attractive bike, which looks far better in the flesh, than on photos/video. Cheers

[@markfletcher443]

Great first look impressions Ian. That looks a fantastic bike and the quality looks very high. The 40bhp from the water cooled single I’m assuming will be similar performance to the Interceptor which is a bit heavier. I’m tempted with this for a Winter bike but then again I’m tempted with the Classic 350 too. I’m looking forward to your test ride. Keep up the great reviews mate👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Mark. The Himi 450 is definitely well made, and from looking at vids coming out of India, performance is quite good. I have seen them happily cruising at 70mph, with top speeds about 86mph. I would think they will be geared quite low, for the off road stuff, but I am sure it will be possible to alter to suit more road oriented riding within weeks of it being released 😉.

[@markfarr2514]

Thanks for the video, have been looking at Adventure bikes and these look great, this would I hope suit me for a lap around Australia, and at the right price! Been a while since I’ve been to Crewe!

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Good afternoon Mark, thanks for the comment. Hopefully RE will get them to Australia in good time, as it would be a cracking bike for your environment. I think Crewe might have changed a bit since you were last there 🤔, it’s really not good, requiring investment. If you keep an eye on my channel, next time Roger offers me a test ride on something (hopefully this Himi 450), I will do a lap of the town centre for you……😁😉 Cheers

[@Jimo368]

Looks like they nailed it.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Definitely 😊

[@timothybrockbank7474]

Like the look of the rally model

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Yes, very purposeful.

[@ReRiderChi]

Still enjoying the Classic 350; but appreciate seeing your views. Cheers from chicago

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thank you. RE almost have something for everyone.

[@TheWuseln]

Ian, thanks for the first look and feel review. Of course I've seen a lot videos from India but am happy that the Himalayan finally is arriving in Europe. As soon as it will be in Germany I'll visit a dealer and try whether it will fit my height (6"5')

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Oo, aren’t you a biggy……the seat can be raised, I put the different heights in the description. If I had more time, I would like to have messed about with it a bit more. I can’t wait for the test ride, will definitely play with it then. Cheers.

[@LifetimeBiker]

Thanks for the early showcase , They look great don`t they , I know this does not help but it suits you Ian. 🧐🤔☺

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

😂 Andrew, no that doesn’t help 😂 thanks anyway though.

[@LifetimeBiker]

I am tempted also , Trying hard to resist in case they release a 650 Classic in Halcyon Grey in the future.😀@@ianhughesroyalenfield

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@LifetimeBiker well Andrew, the 650 Classic is on the cards, and will be interesting to see what colours it comes in. Cheers

[@rubensmarques1828]

A moto é linda , espero que venha logo para o Brasil,sera minha próxima moto !👏👏👏

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I hope so too, I am sure you would enjoy it. Thank you.

[@jonathanmellish4439]

Thanks Ian. Very interested to see you riding one. I went to the bike show and it was getting a lot of interest. Black is certainly the best colour. I tried the 411 and really didn’t get on with it. Curiously I found the Scram more to my liking.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Jonathan. I can’t wait to get my bum on one 😁. I have yet to ride the Scram, but I wasn’t keen on the 411. Cheers

[@nikos-giorgos]

I'll go as far as to say I'd pick this bike (the black-gold version) even over the 1300gs or the multi v4.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

That’s a bold statement, but I understand your thinking. I am one for less gadgets, thinking less is more. I do look forward to testing it’s road manners. Cheers

[@mrgrizzlyrides]

Nice peek a boo at the Mk2 Himmy’s. Pretty sure they will sell well.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Neil. A real step up in quality, fit and finish. Plus technology, they are certainly moving with the times now. Cheers

[@mrgrizzlyrides]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield Yep, as you observed, welding is really neat.

[@rover100bunson]

the black/gold is a real nice lookng bike

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

It certainly is 😎 Thanks

[@Suzuki_Ste]

Great little review Ian they seem really put together well, thet extra BHP is a much needed thing and great for our UK roads, I still like the 411 scram and himi hope they bring out the scram 450. Ride safe and shiny side up on the slippy cold road surfaces.😊

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Ste, it's a belter. Ideal for the roads and lanes I ride. I had a look at some KZbin top speeds vids. Looks like about 86mph, so would happily cruise at our legal limit. With the 40bhp, acceleration would be better too, even if gearing is low, someone will come up with sprocket options. Very promising.

[@chaitanyashervegar8234]

Wait for sometime scram-450,650 cc, Himalayan -650cc is also coming it is in testing stage on Indian roads and abroad.Soon will be launched.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@chaitanyashervegar8234 plus Classic 650. The Scram 450 would be cool 😎 Cheers

[@chaitanyashervegar8234]

Royal Enfield going to launch 24 different models of motorcycles in future .

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@chaitanyashervegar8234 it will be interesting to see what they bring out. 👍

[@icedidi]

Nice, I can see you on one of those!

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning ice. When I saw the photos and other KZbin vids, I wasn’t really that keen, but getting close up and personal, well that’s another matter. Now I could see myself on one too, but would need to see what it’s road manners were like first, as I wouldn’t be doing too much mountain climbing 😂 Cheers

[@Ainsworth-Rider]

Excellent Ian, and very tempting, it would be great if they did one with 17" front wheel for like you say us none off roady types 😊

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks James, I really look forward to test riding this one. Will be interesting to see how it travels on the road. Cheers

[@Ainsworth-Rider]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield well I think it will be a great bike, but lose a bit of character like cutting out until warm 🤣🤣 and that speedometer its looks like they nicked it out of Flash Gordon's space ship 🚀 I do like my 411 cockpit 🙃 great review Ian

[@MadM0nkey]

I believe a hunter with that 450 mill is in the works

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@MadM0nkey now that would be tasty 😃

[@GapBahnDirk]

Very impressive! Royal Anvil have really upped their game with the new Himarlia-layans. 👍👍😍.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Indeed GBD. The finish is really good, as you say, very impressive. Thank you

[@aceofspades5786]

black and gold one looks really smart

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Indeed 😎

[@fullthrottle2008]

Ooh Crewe! Think I might have bought an MZ from the original shop on this site back in the day 😅 That started my love for fugly bikes… like a Honda cx500 and Buell and original Himalayan. Not sure the new one is fugly enough !!?! Each to their own, nice bikes. Big shout out for the West end 🤘

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I first visited the shop in 1978, Roger’s dad re-bored my Suzuki AP50. Yes the MZ’s were kind of fugly, but now starting to increase in value, who would have thought it back then. I like the CX500’s, especially with a pair of Dunstall Decibel silencers 😉 sounded like a V8 😎. Never ridden a Buell, but always been attracted to them. I test ride the original Himi a couple of months ago, didn’t really float my boat, but could see the attraction. I think the white new Himi is borderline fugly, so you might be ok 😂. Thanks for the comment.

[@Nostrildomus]

Good Show T/C/E

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thank you

[@SOLOMOTOUK]

Hi Ian the black one looks for road use and the white one off road definitely upped there game but still need a bike that can accelerate quicker👍🏍️

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I don’t think it would be much good on motorway’s etc, but would be brilliant on back lanes, and coping with our knackered, pothole ridden roads. Only a test ride will show it’s limitations. They are both rugged, with the black one being more blingy 👀, and the white one looking more purposeful. Apart from the tubeless tyres, they are the same. They do the black one with tubeless tyres, but I don’t know if they are still gold. Another RE that will sell well.

[@Grumpysprout]

Ordered mine Black gold with tubeless wheels due in march 24.....🎉

[@SandyToesDetecting]

The pictures I saw before christmas the tubules one is on black rims not gold, worth checking if its important too you.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Excellent news, I bet you can’t wait 😎 if you get yours before I can get on a demo, could you please come back and tell us what you think. Cheers.

[@Grumpysprout]

@SandyToesDetecting hi yes Gold wheels preferred but black as long as their tubeless

[@SandyToesDetecting]

@@Grumpysprout The gold rims look super nice.

[@Grumpysprout]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield will do 👍

[@thesilverfoxtravels6653]

Saw them at the NEC. I’d prefer the black and gold bike with the tubeless tyres but only if they’re still on the gold rims. 👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Definitely Nick, those gold rims really set it off.

[@jimmyjam8795]

Unfortunately they aren't. I've ordered Kamet white with tubeless. Can't be doing with tubed tyres.

[@johndavy8801]

Great piece of work Ian & thank you for pretty much a UK first view in main dealers. The only other footage I’ve seen on the Himmie 450 UK model was at motorcycle live,this bike is so eagerly awaited here and I can’t understand why RE are dragging their heels so much. I personally can’t wait to see one & hopefully try out a demonstrator but at the moment they are as rare as hens teeth and I’m not confident I’ll get my hands on one until April at the earliest. Just hoping stock will draft into the dealers very soon- fingers crossed.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks John. I think March is being bantered. I know Roger has ordered at least 6 for stock, and hopefully some pre-orders. I am really looking forward to getting out on a demo, hopefully a good long ride, even if it will be at running in speeds 🙄😂

[@johndavy8801]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield That’s Great News Ian & really looking forwards to watching your ride review.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I just hope it’s not too far away, itching to get on it 😂

[@Sahu6492]

RE is slowly ramping up production for the Himmy. In India it has seen an overwhelming preorder response hence they have a 5-6 months waiting period even on preorder motorcycles. Booked mine on 14th Nov'23.....will probably see it around 1st week of March'24. A tip, the Handle Black and Kaza brown colour models seem to be getting manufactured the most, with their orders getting shipped earlier than other colour schemes. So if any one wants to go ahead with the bike, those two colours would be my suggestions.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@Sahu6492 thanks for this advice, I am sure people will find it helpful. Appreciate the comment.

I gotta give it to RE, they have an excellent hype game.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

It’s a cracking looking, and well finished bike. It will do well. Cheers

[@melfzs]

They're great looking bikes and will do the job they've been built for, a better job than the Triumphs which I think are just a styling exercise to grab some of the 400cc capacity market sales .

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I agree Mel. These new Himi’s have been built for off road, more so than road. So different than the old Himi, but still built like a tank. Not the lightest off roader, and feel quite top heavy when manoeuvring in confined spaces (showroom), but looking at other KZbin vids on them, the new Himi could climb most mountain passes with ease. I just wish my bank balance was healthier than it is 😂

[@melfzs]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield yeah, I'd definitely have if I could afford another one beside my Classic 350 ! 👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@melfzs me thinks we are in the same boat 😢😂

[@melfzs]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield yeah, financially restricted I think the term is! 🤔😆

[@carljnewrick7162]

Nice video I have already put a down payment on the Handle black and I opted for tubeless the total price is £6300 on the road , I saw it at the Motorcycle live and I just knew I had to have one , arriving in March can't wait

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Fantastic, you lucky personage, very envious. Are the tubeless gold or black like the one in this video ?

[@carljnewrick7162]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield I'm not sure I just put my money down ,I don't know the difference are between the spec apart from the colour and price, I'm now just waiting for the dealership to give more information,

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@carljnewrick7162 someone else mentioned that they think their’s comes with the black tubeless.

[@carljnewrick7162]

It will be ashame if they are black and not gold as you do pay extra but we will see

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@carljnewrick7162 🤞

[@mylifeinthailand8751]

The expensive one is the Summit Tubeless and comes in Kamet white or Hanle Black, then there is the Summit Tubed in Hanle Black,then two models below that then the base model in Kaza Brown

[@spacebound1705]

The black one is the expensive one, white is little bit less, I have booked white here in Bangalore, India

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

That would seem to be the case, but of the ones shown here in this video, the black has tubed rims, while the white has tubeless rims, which made the white one the more expensive of the two. I could only go off the information I was given at the time, with the dealer knowing about the same as me as unfortunately RE hadn’t given a detailed information pack with the bikes, which would have been handy. I hope you are happy with your new Himi 450 🤗😎

[@darren-lewis]

They look great. I think it's exactly what the next iteration of the model needed to be. Be inteesting to see how they sell given they are now nudging 6k though. The USP of the current model was the low price. Nice they are offering a tubeless option, hope they offer it on the gold rims. Black model with tubless please, where do I sign? 😁

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Darren. Reading through the comments on here, it would appear that the black is currently available with black tubeless rims only, due to manufacturing issues with the gold rims. Another chap has mentioned that his dealer said, that even the tubed gold rims are not available at the moment, though I am still awaiting confirmation of this from my dealer. Other than these quite annoying complications, it looks an excellent proposition, but like you, I think the price will be the deciding factor. Cheers

[@Grumpysprout]

@ianhughesroyalenfield 100% confirmed. No gold tubless this year. Confirmed by 3 dealers 🤔

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@Grumpysprout Grim mate 😥. Thanks for confirming.

[@simonbowen6653]

Not keen on the white camo paint job but the black and gold looks fantastic. UK road tests will be interesting.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I am with you on that Simon. That Black/Gold just pops, superb 👌. I can’t wait to get out on one 😁

[@jimmyjam8795]

You don't get gold wheels if you choose the tubless option though.

[@simonbowen6653]

Yeah, that's a shame.

[@jimmydickson8854]

That’s a big tank for long distance might be top a bit top heavy but it’s designed for a certain purpose a big update from the old one

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Yes indeed. I would imagine it will be quite frugal, so many miles between fill ups 👌 Cheers

[@jimmyjam8795]

These are the top Summit models. Hanle black is the most expensive. Both of these bikes can be ordered with tubeless rims. Ordered one of these in December 23, even though I haven't even seen one.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thank you. I did some investigating upon my return home. Yes they are the Summit models, the Black one with tubed rims is cheaper than the white one, but the black with tubeless is the most expensive. Rightly so, it looks stunning. I bet you can’t wait for delivery day.

[@crumblymal8479]

Well done Ian I really like the look of the black one Royal Enfield have done a great job with this new design and if you could get those gold rims in tubeless it would be perfect .I am not an off roader /adventure fan but these do look good even to me and looking at you sat on the bike tells me I might get away with that one height wise interesting ! .For sure it's going to be a battle between Triumph's 400's and Royal Enfield this year who's going to win that one I wonder 😉spot on 👌👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Mal. Yes, it's a massive leap for RE, and will sell well. I have tried googling the tubeless rims in gold, but just can't see them anywhere.🤔 The black one looks amazing in the flesh. Cheers

[@slakk5093]

Seeing the snapped swingarms on the Triumphs is a bit worrying

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@slakk5093 wow, I haven’t heard about those. Were they due to being used off road ?

[@turningwheels2584]

I went to see these two himalayans at my local enfield dealer a few weeks back! I have to say they are much nicer in person, worlds apart from the 410 which i have. In every single aspect of the bike is so much more superior...... Seriously, you could mistake it for a triumph if it had no badges! I've had the bs4 for 5 years now and like it..... This makes mine look like a pile of poop. I've just got to test ride it but I'm sure it will grab me. I'm 6 foot and sat flat footed (just) with the seat in the highest position.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks for the comment. As you could probably tell, I was mightily impressed with the quality, and the step up in the use of technology. This will stop die hard, old school RE fans from liking them, but even RE need to move with the times. I genuinely can’t wait to take one out for an extended bimble. As soon as Roger gives me the nod, we will be there. (Note ; we live 90 miles away 😂).

[@juliandone15]

I called in at Crewe Motorcycles for a look round before Christmas and had a chat with Roger

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Julian, I think you need to pop in again (before Tuesday evening) and have a look at these beauties 😉. Roger is a good chap ☺️ Thank you.

[@peterhobbs7609]

Although the black will probably be more popular, I seem to be drawn to to the white

[@amitchodankar1989]

Me too 😊

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I agree there will be more of the Black sold, probably to those who won't be venturing off road. The white definitely looks more purposeful.

[@TheNorfolkThunderbolt]

First!

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

😂 I’m off to bed now……..my head is fuddled, away from my PC using different editing software 🙄 nightmare job, took over 6 hours to create this….my laptop has just about had it me thinks.

[@SandyToesDetecting]

I went to my dealer in southern Europe mid last month, full pricing to be released mid january. They are hoping to have them feb/march. The difference in price between the 2 models is 50 euros. Though they were not certain at that time if they had tubules or tubed wheels. Price was a smidge over €6000. (plus I presume registration etc). Still toying with the idea of a 411 to get me back on 2 wheels are a break for a few years, then getting a 450 in a year.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

411’s are a good price at the moment, but I do wonder how the introduction of the 450 will effect used prices/dealer trade in 🤔. I don’t think the 450 will be in any way intimidating, but you have to make that choice. Best to take the 411 out to see if you like it enough. All the best with your mission.

[@SandyToesDetecting]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield Yes the 411's are now so cheap especially 2nd hand. I have ridden the 411. I come from big touring bikes for many years (goldwings) The 450 is a very good bike, a lot of new models do suffer from some problems, where as the 411 is tried and tested for a few years now. Also much less worried about dropping the 411 than a shinny new model with potentially limited spares availability.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@SandyToesDetecting yes the 411 is well tested, and built like a tank. Good luck 😉

[@SandyToesDetecting]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield Well I ordered the 411, should get it in the next couple of weeks. Black version. Only 4 left in stock. Great price as well.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

That's excellent news. Take care, but most importantly, enjoy 😎 All the best

[@drd3816]

Like you said in the video we are also wondering how it does as an on road tourer any chance you take one for a spin and give is an idea of highway feedback vibes etc?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

As soon as one is available, I will be on it. In fact I can’t wait. We live 90 miles away from the dealer, but I am really keen, so we will be there at the drop of a hat 😉 Cheers

[@chrisweeks6973]

I rather like the look of the black-gold version, though adventure bikes are not really my thing.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Nor mine Chris, at least not for venturing off road. They do make comfortable mile munchers for going on longer rides though. The Black one would be my choice too. Cheers

[@ruahinesrider]

I'd definitely getting the tubeless version or even better the Black & Gold one with the upgraded tubeless rims if I got one.

[@ruahinesrider]

You want gravel road friendly atleast to get to those hidden Gems of places.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning RR, I had a look on Google this morning, they do an upgraded version of the Black one, with the tubeless rims. It is the top of the range, but don’t know if they are still gold anodised. Cheers

[@iamrobot396]

Hanle is the top model buddy it aint cheap as well

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thank you.

[@Mtthwpez]

These look so good. Can you get the tubeless rims in gold?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Good afternoon. I have only discovered from all the comments on here, that the gold tubeless rims are NOT available at the moment. Possibly at the back end of the year. Apparently RE are having manufacturing issues on them. If you want a Black bike with tubeless rims, they will be black like on the white bike. Hope this helps.

[@henrysmith5604]

The leaning over more is better than the old model as I found it was a bit too upright

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Agreed, that moment when you lower the bike on an uneven surface, not knowing whether you trust the bike to not fall the other way 🙄😂

[@jonathandeeley6276]

Hi Ian, does look the business but it doesn't seem to have the Royal Enfield DNA in it for me. Yes it's a nice looking bike make no mistake about that but it looks like a lot of other adventure style bikes. I am going to my local dealer next Saturday to see them, will be interesting to have a look and feel of it and check prices and specs etc. I had the original Himalayan and loved the agricultural look and feel of it, speed isn't everything at the end of the day. You say you could be tempted, would you consider swapping Clementine for one?🤔 Thanks for posting the video. Cheers.👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Hi Jonathan, I wouldn't trade Clementine for anything anytime soon. The Himi 450 shouldn't be confused with any other RE in my opinion. It's a totally modern bike, with it's liquid cooling, upside down forks, ride by wire throttle, so I don't think traditionalists will like it. It will sell by the bucket load though. Cheers

[@Fake-moon-landing.]

I thought the black one was the more expensive. Cosmetically the welds look good, but I can't visually see how good a weld actually is without doing a macro, it's all about penetration. The tubeless tyre is optional extra for all the Himalayans. Specked the same the black/gold is the more expensive one. Seat height has a low and high setting.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Yes, but out of the two I was showing here, the white one was fitted with the tubeless rims, making it more expensive. I could only talk about them, with the very limited information we had at the time. Unfortunately RE hadn't given a detailed information sheet with the bikes, which would have been helpful. As for the welds, I bow to your greater knowledge. Though I doubt you would be able to carry out a "macro" on any bike you were looking at in the dealer showroom. The welds "looked" better than many other bikes I have ridden/seen over many years. I did forget to mention the pull down rods underneath to make the seat higher, but I will go into more detail like this when we manage to take one out for a demo ride. Thanks for the comment.

[@Fake-moon-landing.]

​@@ianhughesroyalenfield I know you can't chop the frame in half to check the welds in a show room, unless you want arresting. Doesn't alter the fact that's how you tell the difference between a good weld and a bad. Not by looking at the remaining surface weld. Saying they look fantastic kind off implies you are getting a better weld than rivals.

[@Fake-moon-landing.]

​​@@ianhughesroyalenfieldAlso I think but I could be wrong there is actually three different colours and the third is a plain colour being the cheapest white in the middle and the black and gold being the more expensive.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@rustyblade5845 yes. It is called the "Slate" followed by the colour. As previously mentioned, I didn't have this information to hand as RE didn't give any details, so I was just talking about the two in front of me. They were at face value too, as the dealer didn't know anything more than I did due to lack of information from RE. He just said that the white one with the tubeless rims was more expensive than the black one with tubed rims, which stands to reason.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@rustyblade5845 I am not going to argue the toss with you on this one. I understand about weld penetration etc, but at face value, the welds looked tidy, with no spatter, and that is as far as I will go.

[@bigwangmark]

The tubeless rims are odd looking. Wonder how they are strength wise compared to traditional spoked designs. Also with the rim sticking out like that it would be harder to remove the tyres? And also easy to damage when off road eg rocky surface and a larger rock flips up and then jams into that rim sticking out. I think sticking with tubes is a better option if you are planning to really use the bike for what it's designed for. Far easier to fix a hole in a tube when off in some remote area than a hole in the tyre...And more so sidewall damage. A hole in the side of the tyre means you are stuck vs fixing the tube and being about to continue even if you still need to watch the speed till you can get a new tyre.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I think they are similar to the ones offered by the more expensive brands, like BMW and Honda, and have no doubt been thoroughly tested. I haven’t done any serious off road stuff, so can’t comment on the pro’s / con’s of tubed vs tubeless. Cheers

[@djrichylaurence8991]

Scram 450 next then. I love my 411 but .....

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

RE keep doing this to us don’t they……..temptation 🤔😂 Cheers

[@sounakchowdhury1928]

Yep they have been seen being tasted on Indian roads. According to sources they will name it guerrilla 450

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@sounakchowdhury1928 great name 👍

[@ianhalliwell8604]

The cheaper black/gold one looks far better than the dearer one, very strange.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I agree, not so drab looking, but the white one does look more purposeful.

[@Fake-moon-landing.]

Big question is which is the better value bike the current model @ £3,900 or the new @ £6300 ?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Having not ridden the new one I can’t comment. I wasn’t too keen when I took the 411 out, a bit too “agricultural” for me. I will know whether the 450 is worth the extra £££’s when I have ridden it.

[@Fake-moon-landing.]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield I think that agricultural go anywhere don't care if you drop it, might be the appeal. No frills, I think I would be a little more concerned in dropping the black and gold one. I haven't ridden either one. I was waiting to see the new one. Which on paper seems the better bike, but maybe the current model is the tractor I'm after and keep pretty boys for the roads. Decisions, these bargains aren't going to be around much longer.

[@Tripplebeem]

I'm dying to know how much that stock header, midpipe with GIGANTIC catalytic converter and muffler weigh. I feel like a catless exhaust system is going to knock 50lbs off of this thing.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Quite agree, it certainly looks hefty, especially the cat underneath 😳 Can’t wait to have a ride on one. Cheers

[@classicrider5274]

I’m interested and would like to see and sit on one before placing an order. Do you know if they are going around all dealers because I called two in my area and they know nothing about it?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Hmm, you have me there. From what my dealer said, the bikes were “touring” the uk dealerships, so it’s strange that your dealers haven’t heard about it. That said, unlike when Triumph did similar with the new 400’s, there hasn’t been any promotions about it that I have seen. In my case, Roger just contacted me to say when they were coming. Promoting events like these, is another area which RE could/should improve upon going forward. Are your dealers quite small ones ? Where are you located ?

[@classicrider5274]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield I’m in Lancashire and the dealers have decent size businesses, I bought an older model Himalayan from one. It would be great to do what you did and see or sit on one and asking a few questions before going any further with a purchase. Thanks for posting the video, it seems that you have a good dealer in your area. Cheers Paul

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@classicrider5274 hi Paul, we actually live in Carnforth, but coincide visits to this bike shop with trips down to stay with family. We don’t have any RE dealers close to us here either, hence the 90+ mile drive to do demo vids. Bloody north south divide again 🙄😂. The thing is, even going on the RE website doesn’t bring anything up about the “tour”, very odd. Other than ringing round dealers further afield, I don’t know what the answer is. I do know that after Crewe, they were going to QB Motorcycles Brierley Hill, so you could try ringing them, to see where they were going after, and so on and so on. Very long winded, but I can’t come up with any other suggestion. Good luck.

[@classicrider5274]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield thanks Ian, I will try a few other dealers but worry I might end up chasing the bikes further south and I’m not really interested in doing that. Maybe I should just wait until stock arrives and try one that has been pre sold before the new owner takes it away. I understand all of the first bikes delivered to dealers will be pre sold and “available” stock for demo bikes and sales from stock will come later, understandable really. I’m happy with my old model and would not sell it unless I really feel the new model is better all round for the type of use I put it to (I don’t need a faster bike). Let’s see how I get on but I’m glad to have seen your video which prompted me to try to find the bikes.

[@classicrider5274]

P.s. I’m glad I subscribed to your channel some time ago because of your RE content. I thought you were further south or in Wales, didn’t realise you were there. I’m between Preston and Clitheroe.

[@Grumpysprout]

Hi Ian.......bad news for me the gold tubeless rims are not happening this year due to production problem, i.e. finish coming off and wheels loosing air, no problem on the black rims......I'm thinking about cancelling my order 😢

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Oh bugger Graham. Could they come up with an agreement, stating, when they have the gold tubeless rims sorted, you can have them fitted free of charge ? In the meantime, put up with the black ones ! Not ideal, but ……….. 🤔

[@Grumpysprout]

@ianhughesroyalenfield can't imagine Royal enfield swop out a set of 12 month old wheels for new .....😪 oh also no tubeless black available unless fitted and that only on the white one.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

😢 Oh no. Probably only leaves you that one option then if you want the Black, and not the white, and want Tubeless….😢 So sorry for you. If it was me, I would make do with the tubed rims, but I totally understand the dilemma.

[@Grumpysprout]

Always best to sleep on a problem....for the money saved from the tubeless option I can have the original rims converted to tubeless using Outex or Bartubeless systems which better than tubed in my view.👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

So the purchase is still on then......? That would be good. I have heard of such things, but not investigated myself. Is it expensive ?

[@humancorp]

black varirant is the expensive one

[@sgerardpandian]

In India bro. The camet abroad comes with the tubeless hence it's more expensive...

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Good morning, a Google search for UK prices came up with ; the Hanle Black (Tubed) is the cheapest of the Summit models, followed by the Kamet White (Tubless) then the Hanle Black (Tubeless). I hope this clarifies. Cheers

[@Grumpysprout]

Anybody got any news on uk deliveries....i must admit getting feed up waiting with no updates 😢

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I haven’t heard of anyone getting them yet, but always thought it was going to be towards the end of March.

[@amitchodankar1989]

​@@ianhughesroyalenfieldIn April

[@jimmyjam8795]

Hey, my dealer has said deliveries will start at the end of April. My pre order bike should arrive then. All uk dealers will also get a display model and 5 bikes for stock. Any dealer you ring will confirm this.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@jimmyjam8795 that's excellent news. Thanks so much for sharing. 👍

[@Grumpysprout]

I was told by my dealer start of April for sure?.......sounds like smoke and mirrors to me ........when GBmoto handled imports deliveries were OK and now it's Royal enfield uk it's gone to hell! What a complete balls up! 🤔

[@AswinTDK]

Hanle Black is costlier model (at least in the Indian Markets) Kamet White is the the 2nd in line in terms of cost.| It might be different there since this particular Kamet White model has the tubeless spokes. All the names are based on Himalayas and things associated with the mountain ranges.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Here they are Tubed Black, then Tubeless White, then Tubeless Black. Yes, I think we had pretty much guessed that the names were mountain themed 👍 Thank you

[@BlakesPipes]

So the less expensive one comes with a bigger mount plate on the back ?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Morning Blake, not sure whether that mounting plate is standard, or an accessory. There was no information with these bikes other than the brief spec sheet attached to the handlebar. Cheers

[@BlakesPipes]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield Ian all good with me. I live in the US and won't see these bikes till end of summer maybe. Lol. If they are even the same!? 😂 thanks for the show and tell. Not sure why they send out bikes that don't run. Just put two that run and let people get a feel.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@BlakesPipes I think they copied Triumph with this exercise, they didn’t run either 🙄😂

[@jimmyjam8795]

Bikes are all identical, except colour or if you choose tubeless rims. The silver rack is not standard on either. Just the black carrier.

[@MauriceTarantulas]

Think I'd lean more towards the Cf Moto 450 if was in the market. Probably gonna keep my Himalayan 2023 but will ask what trade in price... Hope you are well👍

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Thanks Maurice, it would be worth seeing what a trade in price would be, just out of interest. The Chinese offerings are very reasonably priced and probably have a similar depreciation. Have you seen the Vogue 300 Rally ? A pukka trail bike, which is getting some really good reviews, for £4000 otr. 🤔😳🤣

[@Grumpysprout]

HIMALAYAN 450 availability update ......just been informed demo stock delivery in dealers next week and selling stock 3 to 4 weeks later......why? So late 🤔

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Well Graham, it’s also a questionable strategy, surely as well as demo bikes, they should be fulfilling their obligation to customers who, like you, have already placed a deposit…….that’s a bit naughty to say the least. 🤬. On the plus side, the end is in sight 🫣🙄. Thanks for the update 👍 I am really looking forward to your thoughts when you do actually get it. We are back down in Cheshire in less than 2 weeks, so hopefully I will get on one……providing the dealer gets one soon. Cheers

[@Grumpysprout]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield well I admit I'm getting fed up with Royal Enfield......may try a Transalp 750 next week...at least their in stock! 😀

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@Grumpysprout get yourself to a Honda dealer, have a go on the NX500, CB500X and Transalp (big price difference on that). 😉

[@egg-sk8kp]

black bolts kits needed, silver looks awful.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Matter of opinion, I like the contrasting silver bolts, as I am not keen on this fad of having all blacked out engines. Might be because I am old though 😂

[@Trevelyan1971]

Be warned though if like me you ordered this with gold wheels as I’ve just been told it won’t come with gold wheels as there is a manufacturing issue so all will Come with black wheels.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

That's the gold tubeless, not tubed gold. At least that's my understanding.

[@Trevelyan1971]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield I’ve just left my royal Enfield dealership and they’ve said there will be no gold wheels , it’s not an issue with the design of the wheel it’s the process the wheels go through to have the gold. So they have decided to go ahead with the shipment anyway but all bikes whether tube or tubeless will arrive with black wheels.If they are wrong and you are right I’ll ask royal enfield to replace the wheels to gold tubed but they have said that they hope RE agree to change the wheels for gold once RE resolve the issue.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Ooo, that's really not good 😪

[@Trevelyan1971]

@@ianhughesroyalenfield no it’s not… I’ve probably seen the same bikes you were looking at and have to say the bikes. Look great … but I won’t be the only one gutted if they can never resolve the wheel issue in fact I’m told it’s the most popular colour choice that’s been ordered in the Uk. This is why I think RE will have it do something .

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

@roblippiatt3727 strange that there are plenty of tubed gold rimmed bikes already on the road in India though 🤔 I have tried using the RE support email address (as found on the website) about other things, to no avail, but you could try them.

[@rogerandroid2186]

Doesn't run?

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

They are to look at only.

[@stephenbryson5618]

I didn’t think ugly could be made uglier.. I can’t ride a bike that I don’t like the look of I’ve sat on one it just feels nav .. only it’s mother could love it..

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Hmm, I am getting the feeling that you are not a fan Stephen 🤔😂. The 450 still retains the 411’s rugged looks admittedly, but I think it looks better than the 411. Maybe not so much in the white, but the black/gold is more attractive to me. We all see things differently, which is obviously a good thing. Life would be very boring if we all liked the same things 😉. Cheers

[@simongilbert2704]

big mistake using the same name for a bike that so different ;;

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I never thought of that, but having the 450 instead of 411 does distinguish between the two. I wonder if they will still produce the 411 for a while after releasing the 450 ?

[@mikehurley5052]

The 411 looks a million times better, that looks shit. I read somewhere today about reports of knocking engines, cant find it now. Im waiting to see a CF Moto 450 MT in the flesh, looks interesting.

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

Each to their own, I wasn’t impressed by photos but seeing in the flesh changed my mind.

[@henrysmith5604]

Yes I saw those models at my local dealership a few weeks ago the side stand makes the bike lean over more than the old one that I had I must admit the new Himalayan felt quite heavy to upright it and that’s without any fuel Good bike tho

[@ianhughesroyalenfield]

I agree it feels a bit top heavy when manoeuvring, as I did in the showroom, though no doubt it wouldn’t be as noticeable on the road. Oh, and yes, it does lean over a bit further. Cheers