Royal Enfield Himalayan Betrayal

My 2022 Royal Enfield Himalayan has been a reliable, faithful riding companion. As I get older and face the subtle yet relentless grind of aging I've found myself with a growing uneasiness riding the motorcycle off-road. I'm more aware of its height and weight and question whether I can effectively manage it now. Or if I want to take the risk of a fall or not being able to pick it up.
There's much to sort through. Not the least of which is determining if my concerns are real or imagined.
#royalenfield #motovlog #motorcycle

[@terrycavender]

I turn 70 this year, and I ride a 23 Himalayan. I flew from Guadalajara, MX, and bought my bike July 5th at Baxter Cycle in Marne, Iowa. After camping and riding around Marne for a few days to break it in, I rode back to Mexico, finishing my journey in Oaxaca City, MX. Through eight US states, and over 4,000 miles, my "Hoss," never let me down. (yes he has a name) When I'm back in the mountains and on some road I've never been on before, thoughts of "what would I do if," creep in, but they get quickly pushed to that dark corner where I keep them. I'd rather keep riding, it's been my life for over fifty years. A funny thing about motorcycles, I had an RE 350 Classic in Thailand, a name for it never came easily to me, and it didn’t ever feel like it was mine. But with my Hoss, the name came to me as I was riding through the desert between Nuevo Laredo and Monterrey, that song came into my head..... been through the desert on a horse with no name... LOL So, if it's Daisy, then Daisy it is, and do keep your darling girl.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

"A Horse With No Name" is playing in my head as I write. Funny how music can transport me back in time. I was in high school when I first heard that song. Good memories. Strong memories. Thank you for reminding me. Regarding the Himalayan. I'm still not ready to utter "Daisy" until I know for sure what will happen. I'm afraid I'll cry if I name her and then send her away. This evening I've been thinking about practicing picking up the motorcycle. My concern is my bad back probably shouldn't be doing that sort of practice. But mostly I've been feeling like I should just ride and shut up until I actually can't ride. But that feels live a bit of denial, delusion, and avoidance. So who knows. Sounds like you and Hoss had a great adventure. Baxter Cycle would be a great place to start an adventure. I've bought things from them. A good outfit. Be well and enjoy riding with Hoss!

[@terrycavender]

@@ScooterintheSticks you can make improvements to your physical condition, I have, but it took time. I'll ride until I can't as well, but I'm working on stretching that time as far as possible. 👍 Baxter Cycle is the best, everybody there is a motorcycle enthusiast, I never felt so at home! For the first day or two I actually camped out in the little park across from the shop, then based on suggestions from the shop I stayed at a campground nearby. I have never had a better experience buying a motorcycle in my entire life.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@terrycavender I wish there were more places like Baxter Cycle. It's a rare establishment and not exactly in a population center either. A labor of love no doubt. I am going to commit to some more regular and focused physical exercise to support my riding. One thing I am doing comes from a comment about the 5 Tibetan Rites. Specifically the twirling. They suggest spinning around slowly with arms outstretched and palms down. When I started I was getting dizzy and nauseous after a half dozen rotations. Felt drunk. Now after some practice I can easily do 21 rotations and not get dizzy. My balance has improved immensely. Next will be to clear up a space in my basement and get the weights out!

[@terrycavender]

@@ScooterintheSticks I practice yoga every morning, including balancing on one leg for 30 seconds or more. Since I'm traveling I use exercise resistance bands instead of weights. Balance and strength become issues as we age if we don't do something about it.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@terrycavender Balance and strength are definitely issues for me with great room for improvement. All that stands in the way is me...😀

[@clydeosterhout1221]

Your Himalayan already has a name: superfluous. Your new Honda is really a better "explorer" bike. And let's face it. At our age "exploring" is far more realistic that "adventuring" . The greatest betrayal of a bike is letting it sit and rot in the garage.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're right on all points. Exploring is what I do now. And probably always. I definitely don't want a motorcycle that the goal is to keep it from rotting in the garage...

[@clydeosterhout1221]

Your true love is your Vespa. Everything else is just a fling.

[@vincenz0]

I agree to that

[@danielben-avraham1539]

There are always more than two choices if we look for them. As Einstein said, accept nothing as fact, and question everything. I faced similar challenges as you, and decided to change my diet. I began the carnivore diet and asked myself what else am I willing to sacrifice in order to maintain the health and strength I need to enjoy my riding. I asked myself what my body was deficient in and began eliminating toxic foods and medicines and replaced them with wholesome foods and exercise. The result was that my teeth began healing and so did my body. Downsizing and reducing is a mindset, and just giving into the process of degeneration is a choice. I decided to reject degeneration and took the road less traveled and it has made all the difference.

[@beotaxi]

Check the blood for renal function after three months. I was on Carni and stopped when I got the results.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Because of the medication I'm on I go through a battery of blood tests every three months to make sure my kidney and liver aren't burning up. After 15 years everything is still normal.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I agree, there are always choices. Being willing to chose them is a different challenge. Over the years I've made some dramatic dietary changes to see if they had any effect on medical conditions. Vegetarian, carnivore, Mediterranean, and others. Nothing touched either the psorasis or the psoriatic arthritis. Aside from people peddling dietary cures I never ran into anyone who actually reversed or improved those autoimmune disorders. I'm open to being proved wrong but I'm not holding my breath anymore. I have to admit I've become a skeptic regarding cures of all sorts -- natural or synthetic, traditional medicine or alternatives. While I believe how I respond to the natural changes in my body I don't believe there are any choices that will stop it. There are definitely things that can slow it down but degeneration is an insidious foe. It's coming for us all. And that's fine with me. It's part of the cycle of life and the universe...

[@vincenz0]

That is so true!

[@danielben-avraham1539]

@@ScooterintheSticks interesting that you would mention psoriasis. Last month I had a breakout on the back of my right hand that coincided with a failed root canal. Having practiced natural medicine for decades, I see this as a learning opportunity. What does not kill you will make you stronger. Apparently the toxins from the tooth overloaded the liver and resulted in the psoriasis. I have an appointment to eliminate the root canal problem, and we will be detoxing the liver. The root canals are probably the most insane idea humanity has come up with yet, but being science based, I figured I would try it to see for myself. As much as I know about the human body and survival medicine I was unable to overcome the anaerobic toxins from the leaking tooth. It has also played havoc with my vision. But anyhow, psoriasis and other such skin conditions are signs from the liver telling us that there is a serious toxic condition within the body, which cannot be healed until the root cause of the toxicity is removed. Autoimmune is similar to the automatic low-level oil light on your dashboard. And the response of allopathic medicine is to ignore the root cause and simply attempt to suppress the symptoms. If you're interested I'll let you know how all this works out for me.

[@heleti0000]

Battling cancer, I’ve lost nearly 40% of my body weight - mostly muscle. I’ve dropped my Himalayan a few times but have always had someone close to help me lift it (I couldn’t do it by myself, believe me I’ve tried). I have been considering the same problem - and your choice is exactly what I was leaning towards. A very long time ago, I was working on an Outback Sheep Station in Australia and we had a variety of bikes that spent most of their time completely off-road, not even a gravel or sandy track, just timber, bush, rocks, sand, mud and steep hillsides. Our Trail-bikes varied from 650cc down to a little Honda 125cc. I can assure you that the little 125cc outperformed everything due to it’s ease of handling. Obviously NOT the choice for long Freeway miles but for gentle “exploring”, couldn’t think of many better bikes.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm sorry to hear of your struggle with cancer. It's difficult for me to not think that life is unfair when confronted with disease and aging. I hope you find what you need much like you do on the road when you need help picking up your Himalayan. You're absolutely right about the 125cc trail bikes being great performers off the pavement due to the complete ease of handling. I bought mine so I could eliminate any concerns about picking it up and knowing I could manage it through almost any terrain. And smile in the process. And like you say, while it isn't something for the freeway, I could if I desired ride it across the continent if I had the time a patience. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and experiences. I appreciate them. And best wishes in your medical adventures.

[@clanky44]

I just wanted to thank you for your videos, in today's social media world where content is mostly impersonal, you create thoughtful content that is educational and inspirational. I am in my mid 50's, retired and just starting my motorcycle life (after decades of riding sub 20lb carbon fiber bicycles). I too made the transition in my life to switch to a safer mode of transportation. You may wonder how motorcycles are safer than bicycles? Well, there hasn't been one ride on my Pinarello road bike in years now where I haven't had an inattentive motorist come within inches of taking me out as they pass me on the shoulder or edge of the curb lane. Where I live, law states that you need to give cyclists a 1m gap as you pass, and although the majority of autos do so, all it takes is one or two to ruin your ride. So I've retired my beautiful Italian steed and purchased my first motorbike, the Kawasaki W800, got my license a month ago and have a training course booked for April. I am filled with excitement and trepidation all at once. Again, thank you for your channel and hopefully you'll find a solution to your Himalayan. Keep riding and be safe.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the supportive and kind words regarding the videos I share. Generally I just focus on what's going on in my head. Often it's related to riding directly but at other times reflective of other kinds of things in life. It's nice to know they have some value for you. Having been a bicycle rider decades ago I can appreciate the risk of inattentive drivers racing by only inches away. Thankfully most drivers pay attention but it only takes one. And on a bicycle you don't have a lot of options. A motorcycle puts you in the flow and you can move ahead or behind more easily. The W800 is a lot of machine for your first bike. Go slow and practice with intention so you don't panic on the road. Taking a riding class is a good first step but some practice on your own will help. I'm sure I'll come to some decision regarding the Himalayan for which I'm comfortable.

[@clanky44]

@@ScooterintheSticks Indeed, I have no illusions of rushing into this, my summer/fall may very well be spent in parking lots getting proficient and confident. I’ll not endanger myself or those around me, this endeavour is inherently dangerous and all I can do is mitigate the dangers. Thank you for the advice. 🙂

[@captainjim605]

Being a bit beyond "almost 70," I can empathize. When I sold the Vespa GTS two years ago, I had moments of pause. Getting a heavier, faster ride was a concern. Turns out the Honda CTX was just what I needed at the time. I recently added another scooter (Suzuki Burgman 200), so I again have a lighter weight alternative. Different machines for the intended use. But, we do get attached. Having had somewhere beyond 30 motorcycles/scooters over the years, I like to think each one was the right bike at the right time. I don't regret selling any of them, but I do remember each with fondness for the memories created. If you don't need the space, keep the Himalayan... if you find you only ride it because you are justifying keeping it, instead of "this one sounds fun today," you know what to do. Another thought-provoking video, Steve - thanks!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I agree with the idea of different machines for different uses. Unfortunately for me I have five now. And for road riding a lot of overlap with four of them. I've gotten strangely attached to the Himalayan and I'm not sure why. Maybe it represents something I'm unwilling to release. Time will reveal something. Yes indeed, the memories of everything I've ridden are sweet. Maybe that's what's most important. Thanks for the reminder.

[@GlobalFLATTSman]

I rarely comment on these great videos but am compelled to here. I am 70 myself (where the hell did that number come from ... I was 30 yesterday!). Your thought provoking dialogue had me with you till the last mate. I have only recently found my 'perfect bike' ... a 2019 Himalayan that I have called "Indy' (so let go and happily talk about your Daisy mate). I have only had five bikes having started riding back in my forties here in Australia ... A starter Yammie 250, followed by a great Moto Guzzi 750, then after a couple of years a big upgrade to a Beemer R1200CL (which shamefully died of neglect in the garage as I wandered the world in search of shekels) ... and then a Honda Deauville 750 which went west quite quickly being way too top heavy for my aging frame and a few lazy liedowns.. And now I am absolutely rapt in my Indy (after Indiana Jones not India sourcing). It's all I ever wanted in a ride and with the few mods done I love every minute astride him. Your choice of the little Honda is exactly what I have contemplated myself when eventually being forced to downsize someday out there ... but I suspect I won't be parting ways with Indy easily as per your own dilemma but will keep him for long distant tarmac work. Agreat video mate ... keep them coming. I like your soul sir!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm glad you took the time to leave a comment. The thoughts and opinions of others often leave me thinking differently, or considering ideas that had not crossed my mind. Like the rapid passing of time from 30 to 70. I'll hit 70 in a few months. I still think the guy in the mirror is 30... The BMW K75C I bought a few years ago rapidly got too heavy. I sold it before any lazy liedowns but I came close a few times where I decided it was time to move on to the Himalayan. Like you, I love the Himalayan. It is different than anything else I own or have ridden. And while the Honda Trail 125 will pick up the work of riding in the really rough stuff, the Himalayan is still comfortable on the groomed forest gravel roads and for longer tarmac adventures. Thanks again for the kind words about the videos. I'll keep making more until, well, until I've run out of ideas, stories, or life!

[@edwardkaminsky8142]

You allow us all, to face that realization Steve that time moves forward. Yesterday is already written and tomorrow is a hope it arrives. You have some pristine footage of some memorable journey's on the Himalayan. Ive worked forward over the years from a honda Z-50 up to the Himalayan and eventually will reduce cc and weight of the bike over the years. We are but stewards of these beautiful steads but must someday pass them on. Looking forward to more videos and please take care of yourself! We need you! Stay safe and healthy!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for your kind and supportive words. Time does keep marching on. I try to embrace whatever the day brings, good or bad. And then determine the best course forward. Riding provides me the mental space to consider how to respond to life -- on the road and off. I hope to keep going for a long time...

[@weebercorey]

Steve, I love your videos, thank you for sharing your experiences. I too have a CT125 and love it for the same reasons as you. I love your riding roads and trails where you live, stunning! If you don't need the money or the space, I say keep the Himalayan as long as there is an ounce of doubt in selling it. You may not want to take my advice, as I have 8 motorcycles at the moment, including a 1992 Harley Softail I bought new as a young man. I haven't named them but that doesn't mean I'm not emotionally attached to most of these bikes. Ride safe Sir.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the kind words about the videos. I'm fortunate to live where I do with so many great roads to explore with so little traffic. Regarding the Himalayan, I don't need to sell it for the money and I think I can make space for it by giving away a big table saw that I never use. So it is highly likely that the Himalayan will remain in the fleet!

[@bobd.4967]

Hey Steve. Boston Bob here. Spring has arrived. Park the Himalayan Get yourself on some asphalt with the 300 scooter and keep the videos rolling🙂

[@ScooterintheSticks]

My GTS is still with the mechanic. He tells me everything is complete except for replacing the steering races and bearings. Plus he updated some things that I missed on my list. But I'll be riding it as soon as it comes home!

[@cyclopath7]

Steve your dilemma is clear to see, your videos have been really fascinating to watch and hear your musings, I’ve toyed with ‘moving on’ a Vespa P200 to replace with a Himalayan which along with a GTS 300 cover my scooter/motorcycle needs, after a winter of indecision I’ve reasoned ‘stick with what you’ve got’, in the U.K. remote travel is hard to find (even living in Devon) so a smaller wheeler gets you to the tiniest of byways if your keen. Keep documenting what you do we all appreciate it 👍

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for the supportive words about the things I post. I'll keep making more videos as long as I have something to say and I enjoy making them. I certainly have machines to now cover all my riding needs. The Himalayan is the only one with a question mark.

[@Irinaha]

Hey Steve, again, thanks for sharing your journey with our 2 wheel friends. nothing wrong with anthropomorphizing them. it's just born out of the love and passion we have for riding. I had to sell "Sally" my Scambler a few years back and it was rough, I won't lie. She was my first bike and parting was bittersweet. We went on so many great adventures. But it's healthy to move on. If you feel it's time to downsize, do it. It's okay or maybe keep the Himalayan for awhile longer and try doing some light weight training to keep up your confidence handling it.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences. I appreciate the insight. I've been doing more exercises and have been pondering whether to start lifting some weights again. At least some dumbells. As far at the Himalayan goes, it does seem a bit redundant now. The W650 is a sweet cruiser on the road. And the Trail 125 is great off the road. I'm in no rush. We'll see how things turn out.

[@heckadude]

I LOL’d when you said, “And room for a sixth machine if I go completely off the rails.”

[@ScooterintheSticks]

My skills at rationalizing what I want are finely honed...

[@heckadude]

@@ScooterintheSticks I’ve been practicing those skills, too.

[@markrobinson2648]

I have been thinking of the saying "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst" recently. We have had months of wind and rain here in the UK and I was getting really depressed I could not ride. I hoped for a nice dry day but they were rare! So I thought, what could I do to enable me to go out in the rain and extract some joy from it. I looked at what the pain points were riding in the rain, obviously I need to stay dry and warm. I need to be safe. I bought hand muffs for the handlebars and got heated jacket and gloves. Got some cheap waterproofs to go over my normal gear. It took a few test rides before I had refined it to the point where I am now but going out in the rain is now no issue at all. I actually look forward to it! To use the same saying for your scenario, "hope for the best". You hope that you have a lovely ride, you enjoy the forest tracks and return home safe. "Prepare for the worst". You fall off in the middle of nowhere. Are there things you could do to solve some of the issues that arise from the "worst" scenario? Can you carry a GPS transponder (they don't need cell signal). Can you let a family member know your exact route and estimated times so that if you do not return, they come looking for you? Can you always travel with a friend when you're on the Himalayan? Whatever you choose, I think it will be the right decision. You're very methodical and apply logic to your decisions so you'll be fine. I have learnt so much from your channel and riding style and it has transformed how I ride and what I want to ride to gain enjoyment from the hobby while staying safe. Thanks for all your uploads!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

"Prepare for the worst" isn't far from the Boy Scout Motto of "Be Prepared." Generally I'm prepared with the right gear, the right machine, and the right frame of mind. Regarding a GPS transponder, my iPhone 14 allows me to connect to emergency services via satellite communications. I'll go with that. For now it's full flounder ahead!

[@whatsstefon]

That’s the thing about a truly honest bike like the Himalayan. I sold mine purely because I moved to an area where it’s all high speed roads, and I’m carrying a pillion more, meaning the Himi is sadly the wrong tool for the job. But I miss it every single day.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Yeah, the Himalayan is definitely not the bike for high speed roads. At least you had some time with one. They are an amazing motorcycle. An honest bike indeed!

[@user-lt7uc7dw8b]

Really enjoyed this video and can definitely relate, as I'm sure a shitload of other aging boomers can. Last year I sold my '06 Triumph Scrambler which I invested a lot of time and money in to make it into a much more off pavement bike and spent countless hours riding the gravel/dirt roads in the eastern Washington/ Idaho area where I live. Age has a tendency to creep up on us all and I got to the point that you did and downsized to a TW 200 Yamaha. Like you, I regained my confidence by going to a smaller, nimbler, lighter machine and will hopefully continue to enjoy this type of riding. I still have a 1600cc Triumph Thunderbird for my trip bike and a '98 Triumph Trident for my "pushing 70, going on 22" hooligan bike.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The topic has seemed to strike a chord with a lot of riders. Aging definitely can interfere in our choices of what and how we ride. My smaller and lighter Honda Trail 125 will make riding alone in the mountains easier and safer. But I will likely keep the Himalayan for longer adventures.

[@RoadDogSteve]

At 70 I get what you mean. I too have the same year and color Himalayan. I prefer solo riding on and off road. Off road is usually forest roads and similar. To settle my main concerns I purchased a motowinch which can lift the bike. Even if partially under it. I have tools tubes and a portable jump-start device. I also got a 2 way satellite messaging device with SOS capabilities. I feel so much more at ease going out riding. We can never prepare for everything... I know I can fix many things on the road. But what I finally realized is uncertainty is what makes motorcycle riding so special for me. We're all different in health and personality and I appreciate your honesty in this video. Thanks...

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I’m going to test my ability to pick the motorcycle up by myself. If that fails, and I want to keep the Himalayan, then I’ll serious look at a Moto winch. Honda Trail 125 I purchased removes all my concerns. But I sure love the Himalayan.

[@marcpillis1337]

As always enjoyed your video. As I have mentioned to you before, my Himalayan rides give me the sense of peace you so often mention while riding your scooters. For me there is something about the Himalayan that is just so easy to ride. Yes I probably will have major difficulty to pick it up. But as you do I have different bikes for different riding situations. Am I going to go off the main gravel road or trail to explore that single track uphill on the Himalayan, maybe not. That is what I have a CRF250L for those times, that is what you have the CT125 for now. I would also add that when I ride offroad I carry a Garmin Inreach with me and survival gear (emergency blanket, emergency shelter small, fire making etc... Not a lot of gear but just in case. But with all that being said, as an ex MSF Instructor I would say ride within your limits, but keep on riding. But I would also say as long as I am still riding I am still kicking ass the best I can. I would also say "Don't betray the Himalayan". It is a big decision. Good luck and Ride safe!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

As you suggest, the Himalayan is easy to ride. And a pleasure too. My concern about the motorcycle still wavers between well founded concern and fabricated fantasy. The things I do know are it would be hard for me to pick it up. I should have some sort of emergency communication device with me. And space in the garage will be tight or perhaps not possible. So for now I will keep riding it until I am certain of a decision. Even if I have to betray the Himalayan, I'll try to make sure it goes to a happy home.

[@timothyhohn3971]

I understand your conundrum very well. We share a wonderful and gratifying sense of the riding experience that also employs a considered restraint that is an important part of the overall experience. I tend to ride slow, letting other vehicles go by, so that I can more fully experience the enveloping environment (I often feel that I should get off and walk, riding sometimes seems too fast to see well enough where I am.). With larger bikes, one can ride more conservatively to help ensure greater stability and safety; there's no hurry. I'm glad you're keeping the Himalayan for now, I wish I had kept two machines that I recently sold (an Aprilia Mojito scooter and 1987 Honda Super Magna); if nothing else but to appreciate their appearance (the way you like looking at the Himalayan) and to ride them on occasion to remind me why I bought them and to keep them operable. I now putt around on a Honda Forza 300, angering hurried drivers in the area.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I was just out in the garage tinkering with something on the Himalayan. It's a pretty motorcycle. To me at least. I suspect I won't know for sure what I will do until I get my Vespa GTS back from the mechanic. That's when the real impact of five machines in the garage will hit me. If it's too difficult to move things around the Himalayan is in the number one spot for being sold.

[@user-hk3lr5pr5s]

Hi Steve, I'm of similar age and can understand your thoughts. Your video has generated a lot of excellent replies and also excellent advice from like-minded people. My advice would be to keep the Himalayan if you can afford it and just use it where you feel comfortable, perhaps just on tarmac roads. You obviously love the bike and you will know for definite when the time has come to sell it. Enjoy it while you can, as long as you feel safe and are putting some miles on it 👍

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. You're right, I do love the Himalayan for myriad reasons. And I am pretty close to deciding to keep it. Just a few more things to sort out in my head. And for now I'll just keep riding it.

[@jeffreyhurst9552]

I haven’t been to your channel in a few weeks and see I have some catching up to do. At the start of this video where you voiced concerns about the Himalayan and your health, my thoughts ran to the Honda Trail 125, but I see you got there first. I hope there is a review of the bike in the ones I’ve missed. I sold my Himalayan and I do miss it for many of the reasons you’ve listed (my bike was called Roen). I’m 71 and about 155 pounds and I’ve been moving to smaller bikes. I don’t know how much longer I can ride my Triumph Speedmaster (the largest and heaviest bike that I own) and I hope that I know before things go wrong. My feelings are to hold onto the Himalayan for a while longer and use it in the places best suited to both of you. Take good care of yourself and ride safe, those Pennsylvania backroads are beautiful.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I only have 100 miles on the Honda Trail 125. After I ride it a little more I'll create a video in which it plays a prominent role! I want to hold on to the Himalayan longer. I've made peace with my concerns but now and facing a hard reality that I may not have enough space to comfortably house all the machines in the garage once the Vespa GTS returns from the shop. That would be a sad reality. I was out today on the Honda in the mountains and along the Mid Atlantic BDR. The roads here in Pennsylvania definitely are lovely...

[@charlesbarnett2724]

I'm only in my mid 50's, but as a long time surfer I can relate to your thinking. I have cime to the conclusion that we all have to learn to grow old. It's a fact of life. There's no point in beating ourselves up about it. We have to be objective and remember, every day alive is an opportunity we don't get back. So as Frank said 'from fine old kegs, from the brim to the dregs' Get on the 125. Pack light. Stsy safe, but have fun. ❤

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're absolutely correct about a couple things. First, acceptance that we are getting older is critical. The circumstances may be different and the timing varied but aging we do. And the second point is to be objective. That requires a level of honesty hard to muster if my perspective is clouded with denial. After all, who wants to admit that they're too old for something? The Honda 125 is a delight and I'm certain I will ride it often. And I am going to keep the Himalayan. There are situations where it will be ideal and for now my age won't get in the way. Someday yes but for now I'll keep riding. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate them.

[@peterhartmann489]

Hello Steve, thank you for your videos, always appreciated, especially this one. I'm just turning 76, live in North Thailand and wondering what to do next. I have problems with my hip joints, lack of cartridge and pain. I don't fancy having an operation to replace the joints, over 75 and can take a long time to recover. I was a cyclist, still entering and collecting trophies until four years ago, when the pain became to much. I have a pedal assist ebike, but find this has little or no exercise value, but ok for local shopping. Most days I manage a 5km walk around the local lake, just to keep some level of fitness. I currently have a Vespa Sprint 150, bought this two years ago when I sold my Vespa GTS300 which was getting to heavy for me to maneuver at a stand, so had to go. This is great around town. During the past fifteen years I've also had a bigger motorbike or maxi scooter for longer rides out. Last year I bought a Suzuki Boulevard second hand, looked great and nice to ride, but the wiring harness was rotten. The previous owner was a "bodger" bits of wire everywhere, instead of replacing the harness, sold at a loss to a dealer. In September last year, I decided to buy a new Yamaha SR400, kick start only, a decision made by my heart, not very practical, but a nice ride. I spent last week visiting dealers looking for a replacement for the SR400 having had a good offer for it, from a local Thai man. I was really surprised, I looked at the Yamaha xmax, Forza 350 and ADV 350 mid range scooters, having owned a SYM Maxi Scooter a few years ago. I found them to be too wide for me and not easy to maneuver at a stand. I'm the problem not the scooters. I even tried a Triumph Speed 400, which did fit me surprisingly well, I'm 188cm and 95kg and it seems to be designed for smaller riders, according to the advertising literature. The only scooter that felt ok was the Honda ADV160, not much bigger than the Sprint 150 cc wise, but a different kind of riding experience. I even visited one of the local rental shops, lots of on and off road bikes there, some I have used, but I just could not see myself riding any of these again. It's just hard having to give up riding a bigger motor bike or scooter, but you have to take into account your health and abilities during any decisions you make.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts and experiences on riding and choosing machines when age begins to interrupt what the heart wants. Physical condition can change suddenly. I didn't realize that when I was younger. And for me, my desire to do what I want to do can resist the objective facts that may interfere with my desires. Like you say, we all need to take our health into account and when it affects abilities. For now I am in relatively good shape but that could change tomorrow. Until it does I will keep riding and hopefully remain honest enough to know when I have to change something

[@secretariat-13]

Hello Steve, I totally understand your position, there’s a time for everything, a beginning and an end, try not to feel too bad should you decide to let the Himalayan go, someone else will step up and enjoy it as you have these years, you still have the vespas that you enjoy so much, keep riding and stay safe.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You've summed things up well. And if I part with the Himalayan someone else will have a chance to enjoy it. Sitting here now I am thinking of how nice it would be to go for a ride on the Vespa...

[@njphotoman]

I really do enjoy your channel and relevant content. I'm turning 71 in April and as I mentioned on a previous post, took a 2000 mile RT ride up to Maine with a buddy of mine on my KLR 650. His VStrom was far less agile and capable when we took to some off road riding in Vermont. In the interest of riding a BDR or the TAT, I knew the KLR would be too much to handle if I dropped it, and so with much research and delight, purchased a 2023 Honda Trail 125 several months ago. As you pointed out, though it's not a Himalayan in respect to size and capability, the Trail will keep you out of trouble. I have explored local trails that I would never consider trying to ride on my KLR. I may consider a KLX when I'm ready to part with the KLR, but I feel the KLX might get me in over my head, as it is considerably more capable than the Trail 125. Another consideration, the Honda XR150L...Have you checked that bike out? Great price and long history. Best Wishes on whatever decision you make.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm glad the content I present has some value for you. Perhaps since we are both in similar realms of birthdays... The KLR used to be something I enjoyed riding almost 20 years ago. Now it would be pretty unsettling I think. The Himalayan is less imposing though still heavy enough to create problems for me if dropped. I purchased a 2023 Honda Trail 125 and it is just pure fun for riding here in the mountain. My friend Paul and I took ours on part of the Mid Atlantic BDR today and the Hondas were fine. We were only a few miles from the only Expert section of the MABDR but didn't have time to experiment. Perhaps on another day but I'm certain the Honda would be fine. I took my Vespa GTS through that stretch without much trouble. I think I'm done buying scooters and motorcycles for awhile. My wife still likes me now.... Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate them.

[@njphotoman]

@@ScooterintheSticks Very pleased to hear that you and your riding buddy took to the MABDR on your Trail 125s! Whereas I never rode dirt bikes during my youth or on my son's XR150/XR200( I still have).. the joy of simply taking to the wooded trails near me is nearly enough a reason to have purchased it..but ultimately, I do want to ride the MABDR, NEBDR and when I travel or plan a road trip, BDRs in other regions...especially the Black Hills Route as my son and daughter in law live in a suburb of Rapid City, SD. Maybe sometime I could hook up with you and your friend on my Trail to explore more off road conditions. I'll be joining a friend and his family in June to ride 600 miles of the CPAT. Spring is here! Enjoy longer days in the saddle!

[@jeffreyshumate3359]

I’m in my mid sixties and had a Kawi Versa 650. It was top heavy and I dropped it a few times and become uneasy riding it. I traded it in for a scram 411 which is more manageable. I really enjoy riding the sram and have yet to drop it. I’ve taken it down dirt roads and lots of back roads with a new found confidence.

[@THEREALBONZO]

This past year my 79 year old father gave away his Sportster, his Suzuki Titan, his Sym RV250 and has settled on riding a 50cc scooter because of its weight and size.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I see a 50cc scooter in my future. Definitely. Just a question of when.

[@user-ec9dh2oh5e]

At 73 just gone.. I bought my second himalayan shuda never sold first one bought in 2019 3yrs totally reliable 6000 miles of bliss my classic 350 just a tad small for my long legs....Himalayans seem to hold a special place in me...I've stopped riding in extreme off road fit and no health issue but be safe out on your own....good health from.UK...👍😊

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences with the Himalayan. My Himalayan has a hold on me too...

[@billsmith3019]

Steve, You and I are alike in this respect...We dissect every thought & option and maybe we do it toooo much! I quit riding 7 1/2 yrs. ago when my wife and riding buddy died. I still have the two bikes I owned when she died..an '01 Yamaha RoadStar that she bought new for me and a '85 Yamaha + an '86 Honda Helix scooter that I bought for a backup when the time come that I can't handle the big heavy Roadstar. I think the desire to start riding again is coming back, although I thought it was coming back last year. You have a nice variety of bikes, so here is my suggestion. Ride the bikes where they were intended to go..if you can. If you don't feel comfortable on the single track trails, stay off of them, and ride the double track gravel roads as you were on today. If they become uncomfortable, ride paved roads. You can work your way all the way down to the Vespa. I have an acquaintance who has bowled all his life. In his best years he used a 16 lb. bowling ball, today he uses a 12 lb. ball, but he bowls in two leagues a week with his buddies and they are still having their fun. Bottom line for me: "I would rather die doing what I love than sitting in my recliner wishing I was doing what I love." If you love that Himalayan, keep it until you can't handle it on paved roads. Keep the wind in your face, it's good for the soul! AND, like the gentleman said below me, research what you might be able to do to improve your health.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts on the subject at hand. You make a lot of good points. Particularly about following my comfort level to the right decision. And also that I might be spending too much time thinking about things. Maybe a ride on the Himalayan on the pavement is as far as I need go. Unless I'm fortunate to leave this world suddenly I suspect the time will come where all I can do is sit in a recliner wishing I could be riding. So a focus on riding now is what I should be doing. Thank you for that little slap in the face. I appreciate it!

[@billsmith3019]

@@ScooterintheSticks You are certainly welcome..and I enjoy all of your videos. If I lived near you I think we would be friends.

[@peterhobbs7609]

Good to see you out and about Steve

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm always happy to get out. Even when I'm a little uncomfortable.

[@johnanderson3412]

When my dad got too old for bikes, he got a small electric off roader! Suits him fine.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I suspect I'll be looking at something electric someday. Just not yet...

[@chrismiller4863]

I can’t wait to see more videos on the Trail. Wish they were easier to find here in CO

[@ScooterintheSticks]

It was tough finding one here!

[@sawdust466]

I’m 72 and 5 foot 8. Weight is definitely an issue. Getting in a bad spot by your self is always a consideration for me. I just got a 2022 Kawasaki versysx 300. It’s very light and I can flat foot it. I have already got into some bad situations and was able to push it out relatively uneventfully. Love it. I also have a burgman 400 that I also love. It is also easy to maneuver. I am also very close to naming them. My wife calls me a motorcycle bigamist…..

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Motorcycle bigamist... that's funny. My wife just thinks I'm obsessed. I can easily flat foot the Himalayan. And I've gotten it out of tight spots. But I've never tested whether I can pick it up. It's clear to me now that I need to try. And perhaps practice picking it up. There is more than sheer strength involved. I remember having trouble putting my Vespa on the centerstand no matter how strongly I tried. Once I learned the technique it was simple. The same for the Himalayan centerstand. The Himalayan is the only machine I might name. I hope...

[@samuelfink4799]

I can relate to your struggles, I have been contemplating getting a motorcycle/moped for well over a year now and just cannot make up my mind what I want or what would best meet my needs. I'm 56 and have one replaced knee and although I exercise daily and am in good shape I just cant do the things I once could.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Well, all I can say is searching for the right scooter or motorcycle is an enjoyable task. Good luck with your search!

[@martinholt2844]

What a very thought provoking video! Its very real for me, as I have started to understand my fragility as I get older. I hope I will be able to make a sensible decision about when to downgrade my bikes to smaller lighter models and then to stop riding when the time is right. We generally love our bikes, but when they become impractical due to our aging, there is no betrayal. You should stop riding it out of common sense, but that doesn’t mean you should sell it, that comes down to your availability of storage and finances ( do you need the money to live?). These are sensible and practical decision! 👍

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Storage of the Himalayan may be an issue. Money isn't. But I feel riding it off-road has become a tenuous undertaking. Sure, I can still ride it that way, but should I? Mostly I feel I shouldn't and from there springs the next decision I have to make...

[@mongrelmotorsports]

It is all relative. I sold off a Triumph Tiger 800 to buy a Scram 411 because...I wanted something lighter, LOL. So it's funny to hear someone call the Himmy 'heavy'. I suppose it is, for it's size. But it is a lightweight compared to most ADV bikes and not bad for me to pick up...at age 59. I may change my tune when I reach your age. I don't name my bikes, but of the four I currently own one does now have a name. Too much personality not to. It's not the Scrimmy, but my old 2007 Bullet 500. It has too much character to not have a name. I call it Emma.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Heavy and weight are all relative to what I'm used to or expecting. I sold my 570 pound BMW for the lighter 450 pound Himalayan. And now it feels "heavy" at times when it's squirming in mud, snow, or deep gravel. Maybe I should just stay out of the squirmy stuff. Say hello to Emma for me!

[@twloughlin]

"Betrayal" seems rather a strong term. It might be easier if you shift your perspective and think about "passing it on." Surely if you sell it you will be passing it on to someone who will also enjoy it as you have. Giving the Himi a new lease on life with another owner seems like a better way to look at it.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The notion of "passing it on" is the one saving grace that leaves me feeling ok about potentially selling it -- knowing that someone else will find enjoyment with it.

[@neilfields5914]

Nice video. You’re a lucky man in the fact that you can get a Honda trail 125. We can’t get them in the U.K. I know lots that would buy them. Keep enjoying yourself my friend

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Maybe Honda will see the error of their decision to not bring the Trail 125 into the United Kingdom. Thanks for the kind words about the video. I appreciate them.

[@sparta2v]

As long as there is a little bit of doubt; don't sell it, it will haunt you for ever... Stay well and enjoy the rides on all bikes.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I won't sell anything until I'm certain.

[@salorjim1000]

Being of the same age I have those thoughts as well. My CB500X that I downsized to still seems heavy and a bit much offroad as I am not much of an offroad rider. I did downsize again to a Honda Monkey but even find that scary in sand (I am thinking of better tires for offroad). I did add a Garmin InReach which gives me a little piece of mind. I am up to 6 bikes, Honda NC750, Honda Cb500X, Honda Monkey, Royal Enfield Classic 350, Vespa GTS 300 and Vespa 946. Really too many but just can't part with any right now. Same with Sailboats up to 5. I plan in the next year or so to downsize as it will make life much more simple but it sure is hard to part with any of them.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You probably hit the nail on the head for me -- I'm not much of an off-road rider. If I was more experienced I suspect I would not feel as I now do. I understand the 6 bikes. But five sailboats. Unless they're Flying Juniors or something like that you must have a lot of space being consumed! I keep reading parts of Marie Kondo's book, "The Life Changing Magic of Tidying Up" in hopes I will find the courage to let go of more things. Motorcycles included. I want a simple life more than I want a lot of stuff. But I'm stuck in the sand of possessions!

[@salorjim1000]

@@ScooterintheSticks The boats are all small, 17' the largest. But I desire like you to simplify and downsize, just so darn hard to decide which ones to let go but hopefully by this time next year I will have made progress in the downsizing goal!

[@richardvarnold6245]

Interesting story that I can relate to. I've been riding on and off since I was 17 and now own 2 motorcycles at the age of 67. I have dropped them at one time or another and experience the panic of being out in the middle of no where but have been lucky enough for someone to finally come by and assist me. With a bent shift lever and a pulled hamstring being the worse. That was on the Yamaha 650 but the next drop was on a BMW 1200 CL which was a 680# touring motorcycle completely loaded down. That was at a secluded camp ground just south of Valentine Nebraska known for it's sand roads. Luckily I survived and learned of my vulnerabilities traveling secluded roads. I go to the gym twice a week and ride a bicycle when the weather is nice. I just retired and want to enjoy the rest of my life for as long as I can. I just can't sit by and watch life go by, I have to do something.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've only dropped the Himalayan once off-road and I was fortunate to be riding with a friend. A very soft drop into some Mountain Laurel bushes but still a challenge to get out from under it and get the bike upright. I can't image dealing with a 680 pound machine. I realize that you can practice and get much better at handling things but I've not made the commitment to do that. Yet. Some strength training is in order. And some practice to see if I can actually pick up the motorcycle. Like you, I have no plans to sit by and watch life go by. I want to ride as long as I can. Thanks for stopping by and sharing your thoughts and experiences. I appreciate it.

[@richardvarnold6245]

I didn't pick it up by myself, I was fortunate a younger couple was driving by and gave me some help.@@ScooterintheSticks

[@user-bi1yf5wg5o]

I am in your exact position at 66 years old. I own 5 motorcycles all of them. Vintage dirt bikes. And I am wondering which one to sell first.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Let me know if you find a magic formula that gives the right answer and feels great!

[@michaelwiechowski4139]

Steve, Always enjoy your videos and was reminded of the old joke about "Why do you have 6 motorcycles...ANSWER: I had to sell one. I too am blessed to have too many (is that possible?) motorcycles . At 74 there are few material things that give me enjoyment so I don't stay up too late at night overthinking it. I ponder the idea of starting my own KZbin channel and I was wondering what happens if you use copyrighted music in a video ( I come across videos from time to time with clearly copyrighted music)...are you simply demonitized or do they put into KZbin hell never to post again? Also I most comment on your magnificent dogs...love to see the smile in their eyes when they have their tennis balls....like many riders I love dogs as much as I love motorcycles. 🙂Once again, wonderful videos.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I have five machines in the garage now. If I try to increase that number to six I think my wife will begin asking why I have so many! Music and KZbin. I was initially using the free music library KZbin supplied. Most of it can be used for monetized videos but the depth of that library is limited. One of the things I enjoy most about the video editing process is selecting appropriate music. Music can have a strong effect on the meaning and power of a video. So I decided I wanted broader access to music. I now have an annual subscription to Artlist music and sound effects. Artlist has over 30,000 royalty free songs I can choose from and the music is really good. With tax I pay about $125 a year for a license. I can use as much as I want on KZbin, Facebook, etc. Only one channel per platform though with the plan I have. If you use copyrighted music without permission, even sound effects, KZbin's system picks them off almost immediately. Depending on the copyright holder you may keep the video up with the music but all the income goes to the copyright holder, or you can have KZbin delete the sections with the music. And depending on how bad it is you may get a copyright strike. Three of those within a certain time period and your channel will be deleted. I feel $125 a year is a good deal for music. And I would willingly pay twice that. I have been toying with the idea of an occasional dog video. But they're both reluctant actors!

[@michaelwiechowski4139]

Thank you so much Steve for the detailed response. And I had a friend who only had 1 bike but when he wanted a new bike he would always buy the same color so his wife wasn't aware that he had upgraded! 😂😂😂 @@ScooterintheSticks

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@michaelwiechowski4139 Well, that and have a wife who isn't looking at the bank statements!

[@clinterz]

A few years ago I restored an old 70’s Kawasaki 175 Enduro. It was cool, a nice serious little dirt bike. It was fun to pop a few wheelies, but really just too small. Try some more serious dirt tires on the Himi.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You know, I forgot about that. The stock tires aren’t great. Thanks for the suggestion.

[@biker_dale]

As a younger rider than yourself (59) but having medical issues which mean each ride could be my last I had to decide as we all do, given our individual circumstances, what constitutes quality of life. For me riding is something I'm not prepared to give up yet, it gives me joy. So rather than look ahead and think when do I stop riding, I evaluate each day and say not today. I have down sized to a 750 Guzzi V7 from a 1300 but upsized my trips, I won't be going out with a whimper, neither will I over think my problem, I'll just keep riding till I physically can't. I won't let my illness and eventually old age dictate if I ride, maybe what I ride, but we'll deal with that at the end of the day.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Everything you said makes sense to me. I will ride until I can't or don't want to. I just need to remember that circumstances that affect my ability to ride come faster and more frequently as I get older. At 59 I didn't have a care. Ten years later I'm kind of startled at how fast things change. Including my ideas of strength, stamina, and energy. Old age just happens. When and how is beyond my control. My job is to accept whatever reality the day brings and make choices on how to move on. So far the choices I have offer much for which to be grateful.

[@thegreenman2030]

I just stumbled across this video and channel. I have similar concerns for myself due to some incurable health issues, however I’m 46 years old. I would recommend riding with a friend when you are going into more uncomfortable areas if possible. I see by the key chain tag you are in PA, I purchased a 23 Himalayan Scrambler from the same dealer about 6 weeks ago. I’m about an hour away from there right over the WV border. Are you riding the state parks in the same area as the dealership?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with health issues. They certainly change our perspective on life. Riding with a friend is sound advice though I must confess my desire to be alone will likely cause me to violate that wisdom. At least sometimes. I bought the Himalayan at Battlefield Harley Davidson in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. I've ridden my Vespa GTS in the State and National Parks in that area but never the Himalayan. I've ridden the Vespa into Maryland and West Virginia as well -- Paw Paw, Berkley Springs and that area.

[@thegreenman2030]

@@ScooterintheSticks I live right over the Potomac in Falling Waters WV not far from Berkeley Springs. I’m just starting to venture to the back roads and work my way out here as well as in MD and PA.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@thegreenman2030 There are a lot of beautiful roads down your way. I've always wanted to ride in the mountains of West Virginia. Maybe one day I'll get down there.

[@michaelbdoherty]

It's not giving up a motorcycle that is a difficult choice. It is giving up our abilities that we struggle to come to terms with. Life is dangerous. When we are young, our parents impose limits on us for our own safety. Hopefully, as we mature, we learn what we can and can't do. Now, in our twilight years, life comes full circle, and it's up to us how we can survive the journey. There will come a time just leaving our easy chair will be a risky choice. Live Life every day so you will have no regrets. There are no second chances in the end

[@curbjumper]

Hi Steve! If it's not a financial consideration, remember that it's ok to keep a bike even if you're not riding it; just to have it. Do this until you are sure the other bike fulfills your requirement, and until their is no chance of regret. Or if you ever do make a mistake, and sell something you love.. buy another one! *I like to keep a few key add-ons/ accessories from ea bike I sell, just in case* I am 60 y.o. and currently on bike number 47; I wish I had kept more than a couple of the previous motorcycles I have owned, even if just to have them to look at, or loan to friends for their enjoyment. Remember the flip side of riding in remote areas on a bike you love: there is no traffic 🤗 Also, I have never named a bike, although thinking of naming my V85tt, since it is so wonderful, but extremely large. Best wishes!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thankfully there are a lot of low to no traffic paved roads here. But I understand where you were going with that regarding off road adventures. As I wade through all the pros and cons now one that may just trump everything else is space. Do I really want a garage crammed full where I have trouble getting around to things.

[@oscartravis5740]

I feel the same about anthropomorphising, but with bikes I feel there's much more input and response from rider to bike and vice versa, so a relationship is inevitable. I had a reverse feeling of betrayal when the Himalayan developed a malfunction with the relay switches and fuel pump, and it left me marooned far from home on a baking hot day with little battery charge on my phone, no water, very little food, and a 2 hour wait for a recovery vehicle. It was like I'd been left high and dry by a lover, and I could never look at her the same again.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Makes sense. There is an inherent connection between rider and machine. When things go well the connection is strong. And when they don’t, well, you know…

[@flatgrindrides]

It’s time. Time to sell the Himalayan and memorize her in your first tattoo! Not a betrayal, but a celebration. Daisy will always be with you and know that she is loved. And at almost 70 you sir will be a real biker. 😉

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I certainly was leaning that way when I made the video. But since then I've sorted my irrational and rational concerns and find there remains a solid place for the Himalayan in my riding life. For the rough stuff the Honda Trail 125 provides the ease of use and comfort of knowing it won't hurt me. But for the far flung rides to those relatively well maintained dirt and gravel forest roads the Himalayan remains a good choice. So I will continue to celebrate Daisy (I forgot all about that name) in real time in the real world!

[@flatgrindrides]

@@ScooterintheSticks Sounds quite reasonable. 😉 I’ve been off KZbin for a little while and I’m still catching up. Hope you’re doing well.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@flatgrindrides I try to be reasonable with my choices. Especially as I get older and have to balance reality with desire and dreams. Everyone needs a break from KZbin!

[@flatgrindrides]

@@ScooterintheSticks I know you do. I hope you realize that I was just being silly and having fun. Take care.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@flatgrindrides I did realize you were being silly. The tattoo idea gave you away! You should have said I needed to replace the Himalayan with a Road King. That's the aging rider's ride...

[@alanrobinson3221]

Wonderful, kind, beautiful soul. ❤

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for your kind words.

[@Stefan_trekkie]

Wow.. A trail 125.. That is one of the most versatile and fun small bikes ever created. The trail is not available in Europe, despite the interest. Make some videos on the Trail?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Probably the next video I'll make is with the Honda Trail 125. I'm still learning what it's all about!

[@johnokelly8166]

Keep the Himalayan and use it on paved road trips which you will enjoy, keep the lighter Honda Trail for the back trails which you can continue to enjoy. Then you continue to have the best of both world's. Best wishes with your continued riding

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've been turning it over in my head --- keeping the Himalayan. I took it on a ride yesterday on dirt and on pavement and it is a fine machine. But wouldn't you know it, as soon as I start thinking along those lines the harsh truth hits me about space in the garage. I spent some more serious time with a tape measure figuring out how to fit everything inside. The Vespa GTS is still in the shop so there's no issue now but once it returns and I have to put it in the garage it will be like climbing through a jungle gym to get to things. And more likely I will have to roll bikes outside to make a path the the tool chest, parts, gear, etc. I won't be thrilled with that. So I may wait and see what it's like but I have the sinking feeling it won't be good.

[@michaelhiggins7365]

Some things to consider Steve as age catches up with us all. You may want to invest in to one of those emergency locators which aren't that expensive, but do require a subscription service which is a little pricey.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've seriously considered the Garmin InReach Mini 2. But now with Emergency SOS capabilities on my iPhone I probably will go with that for now.

[@dw5523]

The point, my two wheeled brother, is to ride as long as possible. Whichever machine facilitates that should be the one you choose. You love the Hima because of the ride, not because it's sat in your garage these past years. If you cannot ride it, your love for it will grow cold and turn to resentment. Sell it and keep the fond memories.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Well said! So far I'm still riding the Himalayan and returning home smiling. If there is any resentment afoot it will be when the garage is too full to move around in. But until my Vespa GTS returns I'll set those concerns aside. For now I will just keep riding.

[@dw5523]

@@ScooterintheSticks I’m genuinely happy to hear that my friend. God bless!

[@Sixbears]

I carry a Garmin InReach for those times I'm off in the middle of nowhere. I'm about to turn 66 and I was (am) tempted by the Himalayan. However, I think I'm going to stick with scooters as I'm less likely to dump my scooter and it's easy to pick up.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I’m not sure how likely it is that I’ll dump the Himalayan. But I have noticed I feel less comfortable with it off the pavement. I’m taking it for a ride this morning but not off-road. I suspect it will feel fine. Scooters are definitely a safer bet for me. And it’s why I’ll have them until the end.

[@BugMotoChannel]

The only advantage I see to selling the Himalayan is that you can put that decision out of your mind. If you feel like the decision is tormenting you in any way, sell it, tuck the money away, and if you decide it was a mistake, you can buy another. Just my two cents. I bought my dream canoe (Mad River, red, beautiful) a couple of years ago. I was absolutely in love with it. Wanted that specific one for probably 20 years. But it was a bit too heavy for my wife and I to handle, and so it sat there. It bothered the heck out of me everytime I saw it... Should I sell it? Should I keep it? Should I put it into storage somewhere? I decided to sell it and let someone else enjoy it. If/when we decide a big canoe is right for us again, the money is there. Parting with it was a huge weight off my mind.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You are absolutely correct about the relief that comes from finally making a decision. As long as no second-guessing goes on. There is definitely some weight I'm carrying now regarding the Himalayan. I hope I shed it soon by either deciding to keep the bike or sell it.

[@ed.barker7069]

As an offroad Bike the Himalayan is grossly overweight. It is absurd that a 411cc offroader often needs two people to lift it when dropped. If I were you I'd sell it and get a Yamaha TW200. It'll gently take you to all the places that you're fearful of going on the Himmy. And it's different enough from the CT125 to warrant having both.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I can't disagree with you about the weight of the Himalayan. I've seen videos of people dropping them and then struggling to pick them up. Especially if they drop on even a slight incline. I bought the Trail 125 for going in all those places I was afraid to try with the Himalayan. Not sure I need a TW200 too though. Who knows though what thoughts I'll have when one presents itself. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I appreciate them.

[@josephkent3238]

Thank you for your ideas

[@ScooterintheSticks]

My pleasure.

[@andrewgreen6060]

Similar age, similar issues (luckily without the arthritis). A few thoughts: 1) the Himalayan is a heavy bike, nearly 200 kg. These days, I'm totally over heavy bikes after 50+ years riding all sorts of makes. Suggestion: with the help of a mate, lay all your bikes over (in the garage maybe!) Get rid of those you can't pick up by yourself. Also applies to bikes you only ride on the tar, as unless you have a crystal ball, there's always a possibility of dropping a bike wherever you ride. If it's in traffic, you need to pick it up asap. If that test leaves you with only the Vespas and the little Honda, so be it. Good riddance to the porky ones. 2) it bothered me when in your clip, you mount the Himalayan by first climbing on to the footpegs with the sidestand down. I get the mobility issue, but that's asking for trouble when one day the whole lot topples over on to you. Suggestion: get rid of any bikes you can only mount like that, even if it leaves you with only the Vespas. Looking at the roads you show in your Himalayan clips, can't see why you couldn't tackle them on a Vespa, especially the 150, as they are light as a feather and handle good dirt OK. Bring your mate on his Vespa for safety!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

When the weather warms a bit, I will run that test with Himalayan. It’s the heaviest thing I have. I know I can pick the others up. I can mount the bikes without stepping on the peg. But it’s a lot easier mounting via the peg. Very careful though when I do that. And my side stand has a big foot so it won’t fall down in the ground. I’ve watched racers and people with big BMW‘s mount that way. But there is a risk of the thing toppling over, if you’re not careful. I’ve also heard criticism regarding the strength of the kickstand and the strength of the pegs. I’m not worried about either of those. Thanks for the advice though. It does make sense.

[@andrewgreen6060]

@@ScooterintheSticks Yes, the big BMs are quite a thing aren't they. Not for me, or you either I guess. I don't believe side stands are designed to take the weight of a rider cantilevered on a foot peg, in addition to a percentage of the bike weight. I think the weakest point is likely the weld where a lug the side stand hinges off, is attached to a frame. If that's how it is with the Himalayan, I'd be keeping an eye on that weld.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@andrewgreen6060 I"ll look again but everything appears to be in good shape. The side stand is probably more in peril than the pegs. I'll have a look.

[@markrobertson5305]

It came to me that you could lower the Himalayan suspension. That may make it more manageable and help you enjoy it for longer. I haven't done this but I've got the mind to when the time comes that I find it too heavy.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thanks for the suggestion about lowering the suspension. That's not the issue for me. It's really more about a fall injury and/or whether I can pick up the bike.

[@Validalias1]

As someone who likes to be comfortable… why no hand guards? The ones from royal enfield are inexpensive and are easy to install. I see tons of people with thousands of miles on their bike with no hand guards and I just don’t get it

[@ScooterintheSticks]

That video was made in a transition. I had taken the muffs off the handlebars that morning. I was too lazy to put the hand guards on. But with the exception of that ride, there’s always something protecting my hands from the weather.

[@EpicAdamMotovlogs]

I recently took a versys 650 for a very short test ride & it didn't feel right. The Himalayan feels like home to me as it probably does to you. I'm sure you'll make the right decision.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The Himalayan no longer feels comfortable to me off the pavement. Feels fun on the pavement. But I have three other machines that are great on the pavement. Hence my dilemma. I'll need to do some more experimenting but right now the jury is leaning toward selling it.

[@volt8684]

I breakdown a little with every car/mcycle I part with. Always reflect and now at 65 wish I d kept all of them😂

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Aside from my first Vespa which I destroyed the engine, and my 92 BMW K75C, I've kept everything. But like you say, there is a little sadness saying goodbye. I've not found myself wishing I kept them though. I can't say the same about cameras. I wish I had kept a lot of them...

[@musicadefe4837]

Beautiful!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you!

[@AV-cz4yb]

You can’t stop the clock. We’re all heading in that direction. Do what’s best for you. Betray the bike if you must. Just don’t betray yourself. Ride on brother. By the way. Where are you riding in this video? Looks a lot like my state of NJ.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you. I appreciate your wisdom. Keep riding is the goal!

[@gerardgerard5681]

Got to get out soon Steve. Still cold up here.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I hope you get some decent weather soon. A lot of rain here. Enough to keep the dirt roads messy. But I suspect things will clear soon.

[@hondamonkeyboy]

The word betrayal is just not appropriate in my opinion. The Himalayan has served you well and apparently still does on the road so you could keep it. However you have identified valid areas of concern when riding off road and so it is not a wise choice to ride it in that environment. I had a 2015 Honda Forza 125cc weighing in at a mere 162 kilograms. In 2019 at the age of 66 I discovered that I could not safely manoeuvre it around when off the bike. I had developed Polymyalgia Rheumatic in 2010 and coupled with some other rheumatism meant I had to make your choice. I part exchanged it for a new Honda Monkey bike 125cc which is 104kgs and it transformed my riding. I love it. No need to sell your RE if not necessary but use the Trail when off road and enjoy both. Good luck with your decision.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Medical conditions just throw a wrench into riding plans. And until you experience them it's difficult to understand how dramatic the results are. Seemingly simple things like moving a machine around in the garage or mounting or dismounting can suddenly become overwhelmingly difficult. I just try to be honest about what is happening and make a sound choice. I could easily keep the Himalayan to ride on the road. But then I think about the three other machines that I can easily ride on the road. And the routine maintenance of the machines. And insurance. How much extra work do I want. The thoughts can be maddening.

[@rossa7215]

If I may, I have a luggage question. I have a Triumph 400 Scrambler, and need a tailpack for it, possibly a tankbag too. Would you share what you are using, because I think the Himalayan is very similar? Thanks-Ross

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I’m using a tank and tail bag from SW Motech. I also have their Urban side cases. Excellent gear. But pricey.

[@rossa7215]

@@ScooterintheSticks Great. Thanks!

[@timsatchell6713]

Age and strength is always a conundrum.. I had watched about a quarter of the video an I'm thinking "he needs a Honda CT125 Trail." but you already have one. If you really have an attachment to the Himalayan, why don't you consider lowering it and sticking to the gravel roads. The fork legs will slide up an inch and Hitchcock's do lowering links for the rear shock. Might just give you the confidence on the gravel roads and you have the Trail for slightly more challenging stuff. This would be a relatively small investment. I'm a beat-up 67 year old and I know exactly how you feel. Just know your limitations.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've ridden the Himalayan a few times since making this video. And each ride comes with words and whispers from the comments of others prodding me to consider the weaknesses in myself, my skill, and in the motorcycle. I've come to the conclusion that the bike isn't too tall to ride. But it may be too heavy to pick up if I drop it. But my biggest concern is injury. A fall at 69 years old could do damage that won't easily heal as it would when I was younger. But I'm not sure if those concerns are based in fact or illusion. Perhaps the one objective fact has to do with space in the garage. Once my Vespa GTS returns from the shop things will get really tight. Tight enough that getting to anything might mean pushing bikes out of the garage. And that will piss me off in short order. As you say, I just need to know my limitations and sort the real from the imagined ones. Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts. I appreciate them. BTW, went for a ride today on the Honda Trail 125. What a great motorcycle.

[@aviator9985]

With age comes some serious decisions to be taken. A top heavy bike could be challenging at times when you are not close to any help. A physical injury could suddenly alter your daily routine. There are many serious buyers who would take care of your bike after you have made the decision to sell it. All your future plans to get a lighter bike are a wise choice. Go for it. Avoid ascending or descending slippery dirt tracks/ roads. Get a Lumber support belt. Wishing you lots of happy travel memories.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I did buy a Honda Trail 125 to ride in rough situations that I wouldn't take the Himalayan. But I've also been thinking about how I might still make use of the Himalayan. I'm getting closer to keeping it.

[@aviator9985]

🙏

[@wboeren1]

It's a machine, does not need a name. But one point you said is valid to almost everyone. If you fall chances are there are injuries. Then the problem of lifting a bike will often be a reality. A good warning device, phone is a lifeline. Other then that, keep riding as long as you feel you can, if needed replace the machine for something else.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Thank you for your comments. A lot of wisdom there. The closer I get to a decision the closer it seems space in the garage is going to be the deciding factor.

[@wboeren1]

@@ScooterintheSticks i got 2 bikes, both 1300 cc. I am strong, but if i fall i would not be able to lift them by myself. Mental stress and or physical injury would most likely prevent that. Just look at most crash videos, they need someone else to lift te bike.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@wboeren1 It spells trouble for those of us who like to ride alone. We need to choose our motorcycles carefully. And when I can't pick mine up anymore without help it is time to move on to something else.

[@pnwoods]

Bikes are an extension. They smell fear. ... Fear, .. real, or imagined, initiated in the fourth dimension, will manifest at some point, in the 3rd.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm going to have to think about that for awhile...

[@vincenz0]

Hi Steve! To me the Himalayan is a travelling motorcycle.. it's meant to go away camping and travel on highways and dirt roads. I don't think you'd be able to do something like that and carry all this gear on the honda trail 125 or your kawasaki 650... Maybe, for you, the Himalayan could be useful to run errands if you are no longer comfortable riding trails with it... Short trips to the grocery store like you probably already do on your vespa 300gts... You have so many great toys. You are a very lucky man IMO.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You're right about the Himalayan. It is well suited for traveling. Something not in the cards at the moment. Day trips are the longest adventures for now. I watched a video a few weeks ago about two guys riding their Honda Trail bikes from Vancouver to Barrow, Alaska. Camping most of the way. I'm sure it is possible to adventure on the Trail 125 but it definitely takes away any high speed roads. I've come to see that the useful top speed on flat roads is 45mph. Less if there are hills. So there is a lot of pulling to the side at those speeds. My W650 and GTS are much faster and more capable. I do have a lot of toys. I am grateful to have the "troubles" I do with the Himalayan. Time will reveal it's future.

[@vincenz0]

@@ScooterintheSticks If I were in your position, I would not worry too much about betraying my Himalayan... It's a useless debate in my opinion. Even if you use it less as time goes by, it will keep its market value. Your bike is in great running condition, you put a lot of accessories on it and it's sitting in a nice dry garage. IMO these Himalayan 411s motorcycles will gain market value as time goes by if they are kept in good running condition. I went to the Montreal motorcycle show last week and was happy to learn that there were no more 2024 Himalayans 411s available from Royal Enfield dealers in Quebec anymore and that all Royal Enfield dealers were eagerly waiting for the 452 to be available in North America in 2025. I did give my Himalayan a name... it's Henry. My Kymco K-Pipe's name is Lucky. Most vloggers I follow that own Himalayans have named them. Joe Ryan's Himalayan is "Indy" and Red Day Ride has named hers "Roger"... Naming yours just means you care about it. My K-Pipe easily reaches 90kmh even if it's a 125cc.. but when it does it gets so loud and it vibrates so much that I could not imagine myself going camping and riding for hours on it at speeds over 70kmh. It's not a bike for the highway and country side roads... However, it's the perfect bike in the city... It accelerates quickly and is lightweight and easy to manoeuver. I love it! I hope you get attached to your Trail 125 as much as I have gotten attached to my "Lucky"...

[@samhartman1]

Hi Steve, I live not too far away and I'm pretty familiar with the woods near you. I also have a Himalayan and would ride with you if you'd like.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Perhaps our paths will cross somewhere. Where do you ride?

[@samhartman1]

@ScooterintheSticks I recently moved 45 minutes away from the S.C. area and loved riding around in Rothrock and the surrounding forests.

[@jamesevans164]

I was to give up my life of riding... I built a sidecar.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

You raise an important question for me: How far will I be willing and able to go to continue "riding?" Reaching a stage of weakness or balance issues could make a trike, sidecar rig, or a CanAM type vehicle a reasonable way to stay in the wind and on the road. I'll keep it in mind as I continue to downsize. Right now everything in the garage, the Himalayan included, are reasonable. Thanks for sharing the reminder. It was good to read your comment.

[@danielben-avraham1539]

Speaking of betrayal, I got on my bike this morning and the rear swing arm bearings were squealing again. The last time they locked up I brought it to the RE service center under warranty. According to the smokes vlog, the cause when he disassembled the bike, was that the bearing was crushed from over torquing with an impact wrench or something. I told the dealership what the problem was and what they most likely had to do to fix it. And they just oiled it. So if I want to fix the problem once and for all I will have to disassemble the bike and do the repairs myself. Has anyone else dealt with this problem?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Frustrating when things like that happen on any vehicle. I’ve resigned myself to the idea that perfection doesn’t exist. When something happens I will fix it, pay someone to fix it, or get rid of the thing that frustrates me. So far the most common choice for me is to pay someone to fix things. I’ve grown weary of fixing stuff.

[@beotaxi]

Keep the mighty Hima and persuade your friend to ride with you when you want to go off road and get the Honda for when you want to go alone?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I already bought the Honda. And so did my friend. He sold his KTM 390 Adventure over a year ago so he had nothing to ride off-road. Whether I keep the Himalayan may just come down to space in the garage...

[@lipsee100]

ok I,m 68 and have had my Himalayan 5 years, twice I,v dropped the bike while off road..and twice its been strugle to pick up. Certainly if you drrop with the engine higher then the bars you are going to have a workout...Its a bike that lays flat when down ,not like a GS which never lays compleatly flat... I believe you can buy a kit to help raise a downed bike ,it has a rod and strap, If I went off road more offten I would certainly look in to it... Like I said I,v had it for 5 years..now normally I would be looking to replace,, but question is what with. The new model is certainly not a replacment, it comes with a Japanese style short stroke engine,which is far too revvy for me..As far as I can tell this 411 model is the only Long stroke ADV bike on the market .. My bikes top speed is 60mph ,I cruise at 60mph,and I blast down country lanes at 60mph,this is a bike that makes my feel like 18 again,, I just love it...

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've only dropped mine once and I had help picking it up. I realized then how heavy it was. For guys like us that aren't looking to ride through the dirt with the tach at 4000 rpms the Himalayan is perfect. Just slogs along. As I have been going through the comments I find myself bouncing between keeping it and selling it. Sheesh....

[@kz1000st1]

The Himalayan weighs 439 pounds. Not light like a KTM 390 or any 450cc motocross bike but certainly not a BMW GS1250 either. I think you will have to adjust your offroad activities on the Honda with it's modest engine power, skinny tires and semiautomatic transmission. Keep the Himalayan. It's a better Off Road device.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The Himalayan is definitely a more capable machine off road than the Honda. But it still requires a capable rider. I fear I'm falling short of its capabilities. I'll keep experimenting until a conclusion is reached.

[@davidrochow9382]

If you love the bike there's a third alternative which might be of interest to you, putting a sidecar on it. Once you get used to them they are great for fun. I'm 64 and because getting on an off the bike is getting harder I'm getting one fitted to my 82 Honda 750 Magna. I used to have one fitted to a Royal Enfield Classic 500 and it was great. I also have a mate that has one fitted to his Himalayan and he swears by it. He says it's great for camping as he can just chuck everything in the chair and go. By all means keep the 125 if you need the thrill of leaning a bike around the corners but maybe think twice before you get rid of the Himalayan.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

No sidecars for me. I've spent enough time on URALs to know that I am not going in that direction. The same with trikes. They no longer feel like riding motorcycles to me and at the end of the day, how the ride feels is perhaps the most important thing. I'm still not sure about the Himalayan. Rode it today and came home smiling. Even with some off-road stretches. Go figure. Maybe the cold weather riding contaminated my brain...

[@staryjanek]

Royal Enfield 350 classic with more off road focussed tyres ?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I've considered it. I doubt I will go that direction now that I have the Honda. I could put more aggressive tires on my W650 but it's in the same weight range as the Himalayan.

[@jethrobradley7850]

Or... Do you have any friends or aquaintances you could ride with on those occasions when you know you're taking the Himalayan out on the rough stuff ?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

My friend Paul and I used to ride off-road together when he had his Honda CRF 250L and a KTM 390 Adventure. When he parted with those I continued to ride alone. Now he and I both have a Honda Trail 125 so the Himalayan is kind of the odd man out.

[@jethrobradley7850]

@@ScooterintheSticks If I were in the same situation, I'd just keep the Himalayan and ride it a touch more conservatively.

[@danzuelch]

A previous episode exposed the dangers of riding a motorcycle. We can choose not to face the danger...but we don't. We talked about being out of cell range...but we now know alternatives. But we do have to face our physical and mental limits as we get older. I still hike 3 times a week to try to stay in shape. I do often wonder how long it would take for someone to find me if something goes wrong. But I continue on because I need to. I ride my Himalayan because it is easier to handle as I get older. But, alas, I know that the day will come when it too becomes too much for me. Two weeks ago my Brother In Law (and good friend) passed away sitting at his desk in his Man Cave, probably watching KZbin. I choose to challenge risk and to squeeze every drop of juice from the lemon before I go. Steve, it will be a sad day when you part with your Himalayan....or your Vespa.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I remember my father telling me the secret of long life is to keep waking up in the morning. Being active and keep walking, hiking, and riding goes right along with that wisdom. I'm here on the earth to live my life. And for me that means embracing whatever comes my way, good and bad. I still love to ride and will strive to keep riding something that makes sense. The Himalayan is still ridable but perhaps not in all the ways I used to use it. Who knows. I may feel differently tomorrow!

[@worldfactography9250]

you can check hero xpulse 200 4v. it weighs around 160kg and offer air cooled engine and almost zero electronics. I don't know wheather Hero sell their bike over their.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I purchased a 2023 Honda Trail 125. Now the question at hand is what should I do with the Himalayan.

[@misAdventuresonGenie-uw8bu]

I empathise completely!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Sometimes things just happen that are uncomfortable.

[@worldfactography9250]

i think you can reduce the weight of bike by taking unneccesory part away. Abhinav Bhatt youtuberr reduced 30kg from new 450. I think you can by 15 kgs

[@ScooterintheSticks]

The weight is just part of the problem. There's also the height. While I can flat foot the Himalayan I'm not as strong as I once was and can't reliably keep the bike upright in rougher stuff. The Honda Trail 125 is almost 200 pounds lighter and much lower. Both make it infinitely easier to manage. Even on really rough trails.

[@larrymickey3419]

Check out the Honda XR150L

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I was more smitten by the appearance of the Trail 125 than the XR150L. The look of the machine is always the first consideration. If I don't like the looks, nothing else will matter.

[@twinphill900]

Time will tell, who said you have to decide right now. Give it time, and the answer will come 😊

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I’m in no hurry right now. But when I get my Vespa GTS back and have five machines stuffed in the garage. I may feel differently.🤣

[@twinphill900]

@ScooterintheSticks looking forward to a vespa video 👍

[@ScooterintheSticks]

@@twinphill900 Soon! I'm moving through the machine rotation. My new Honda Trail 125 will likely be the next machine to appear in a video. But the Vespa after that.

[@Dr.ModNut]

Something happened to me when you said, “…to keep it or betray it” toward the end of this video. Perhaps we do directly, or indirectly (subconsciously), anthropomorphize our bikes? I’ll have to let this sit a bit longer. Again, thank you mate for yet another brilliant video. Ride safe. Cheers!

[@ScooterintheSticks]

I'm still resisting giving the Himalayan a name. I suspect the urge is some subconscious desire to keep it. As if I start calling it "Daisy" I won't be able to part with it!

[@NakaNakaDerkaDerka]

Just a thought… T therapy?

[@ScooterintheSticks]

T therapy? Like a hot cup of Earl Grey???

[@capthook8066]

Trust your gut.

[@ScooterintheSticks]

Good point!