Final Fantasy XII by Roostalol and Hoishin (RPG Limit Break 2017 Part 37)

[@RPGLimitBreak]

Run Start: 1:55

[@zombiegone2073]

I really do love longer speedruns, it's nice to have something that will last me a few days as it gives me a routine to keep the anxiety at bay instead of having to try and find something else to watch all the times

[@heavyrain5949]

Hope things are going well for ya!

[@kermit1096]

read 'in search of the miraculous' by pd ouspensky

[@stephenh3294]

The 3rd time of watching this, I realise that this is an incredible display of teamwork, passion and dedication. I just can't get enough of this

[@12ealDealOfficial]

Completely agree. This is a fantastic run of a great game.

[@andinuruljihad2912]

9 is my favorite, 10 has my favorite battle system, but 12 is the one i can't stop replaying. i just love the world and the localization team knocked it out of the park with this one... "let them watch, i know something of cages"

[@kadajshin]

Agree with you Bro! Love this game, world and battle system

[@DdavidoffC]

Honest question: why is 10 your favorite battle system? I was so bored with: "This is a flying enemy and you hit flying enemies with Wakka. This enemy needs to be hit by Lulu. This enemy needs to be hit by Auron." That was literally the entire combat system.

[@Sidnv]

@@DdavidoffC The ATB system has a lot of depth in 10 but it requires either a challenge run (No Sphere Grid or more) or post-game battles for it to matter. The issue with 10's main game is that final boss aside, the difficulty is really low and for most of the main game, you're restricted too much in your abilities. Once you get some freedom on the sphere grid and you get to the harder monster arena challenges or the dark aeons, the depth of the battle system comes out really well. I don't like the dark aeons and wish they were more creative than just blanket immune to most abilities but I think the battle system itself is well done, though perhaps not my favorite.

[@prometheuszero9]

I definitely like 12 a lot as well. As an artist, I really enjoy the design of everything... characters, monsters, locations, etc. I also personally love the License Board and Gambit system, although I hear the Zodiac Job System is even better. I enjoy how large the world sounds and all the little side quests stuff. Of course, none of that stuff its into these speed runs but for a casual run it's great.

[@Sidnv]

@@prometheuszero9 The Zodiac job's main advantage is that it actually differentiates how your characters play through to the end game. The big issue with both X and XII's original leveling system is that your characters are homogeneous in the end game.

[@BigTimeLulz]

This game has a ton of dead time where they're just walking around, but they do a good job of using it to explain the upcoming strategies.

[@stephenhughes1862]

Absolutely wonderful. I swear, FF12 is one of the best games ever fucking made

[@stephenhughes1449]

When I finished watching this, I put it straight back to the start. This game is incredible. These strats are incredible. These guys are awesome. What a comnbination!

[@AceBadguy]

I'm Basch von Rosenburg

[@TheAsvarduilProject]

Don't believe Ondore's lies! _TheAsvarduilProject's Notoriety has increased by 10%._

[@ffamranbunansa883]

Ace C Basch lives !

[@bigtimetimmyjim6486]

I'm Captain Basch!

[@TheYiffingAtheist]

25 Bujerbans heed your words.

[@The_Cooler_Will]

From Dalmasca!

[@stephenh3294]

This is fantastic. On so many levels. What a hell of a co-operative. A rediculous amount of strategic planning has gone into this speedrun. WOW

[@AgriasDeFeura]

I don't think I could ever try to speedrun this game. I don't want to live in a world where I intentionally deprive myself of Gideon Emery's magical voice.

[@ssj4broly974]

Balthier is a glorious man partly because of that voice! Fran has a really cool voice too I think! Not a clue what that accent is meant to be but shes so fun to listen to!

[@RanRii]

@@ssj4broly974 Scandinavian I believe.

[@stephenhughes1449]

This is so good, we need to see another meetup speedrun! These guys are just awesom

[@FeanixFlamage]

"what, did you think shedding your armor and getting buff as hell would let you win?" "yeah, that was a given!" "but you lost..." "oh, right..."

[@Darroc3]

sky pirate

[@CaptainCrustacean1]

2 Years later and it's still hilarious how you can see Roosta zoom down the hallway in the background after he leaves after demon wall at the 2 hour mark.

[@BoP]

This is still such a great run. Great play, lots of rng fun times, and the couch was amazing to top it all off. I hope these guys come back!

[@sniperkain]

couldnt watch it live,thanks for the upload!

[@annoynymouse1146]

same here bro...

[@stevenkelley2662]

The entire game cleared faster than I can clear the Pharos. We called it the Four-Hour Tower even though it was more like nine hours.

[@OmegaTaishu]

Rewatching it in 2024 What a fantastic run...

[@ArlanKels]

FF12 was my favorite final fantasy since Tactics.

[@Thenumber12pwns]

Not enough people give tactics the praise that it deserves

[@lolita001]

Bruh moment

[@farmerbobbygrows3338]

In a way it reminds me of the old yu-gi-oh capsule monsters where you play it like chess super awesome game never played through it on gameboy but I have it as an emulator rn and I'm playing it super cool

[@Jmack7861]

A speed run of farming for the tournesol would still take longer than this

[@Gender_Ascender]

*Flashbacks*

[@neoqwerty]

@@Gender_Ascender Haven't touched the game for years and I still died a little inside just seeing "Tournesol". You're not alone...

[@Darkstar.....]

When the dawn shard self destructed both the shiva and leviathan went down.

[@shane1489]

This was the last FF game that didn’t bore me before I finished it..

[@animewarrior16]

LP farming in the mines made me want to play in traffoc, but the demon wall fights were super worth it.

[@PenguinsAreColdish]

sounds like a personal problem because i found this game boring as shit

[@JM-vl3cy]

@@PenguinsAreColdish yeah there is a real pacing problem in this game. Even on x4 speed in TZA version I got bored. And I liked 13, wich says a lot about my tolerance aha. I think the problem really comes from the unengaging story and characters honestly.

[@TheOujosama]

1:54

[@creepymaestro2843]

TheOujosama people like you should run the world

[@velvetbutterfly]

So I'm doing my first real playthrough, I apparently got stuck right before the game actually begins and opens up when I was a kid, and, how. I can't even imagine running across the game world in 6 hours, let alone the fighting. Excited to learn

[@Stachelbeeerchen]

So the run in a Nutshell is: will the rng be mercyful? Yes/No

[@josephcerasuolo3563]

16 minutes in and they say "we need to charge the crystal" and all I can think of is that Craigslist "JO crystal" ad lmao

[@Ranylyn]

"Happy Birthday everyone in the audience." Holy crap. I AM actually watching this on my birthday. What madness is this!?

[@NathanWubs]

not that much madness considering that 52,280 people have watched this video it was bound to happen, and will continue to happen!

[@hakeemclarkson6657]

ive been playing for 150+ hours🤔

[@arisasuanjingbabi8725]

What the amazing strategy? I have been 3 times finish this game but i never being this person gameplay, very skillful

[@Aureliants]

love this game, my first ff

[@nesoukkefka1741]

Best FF games glad to see a run of it.

[@stephenh9483]

Love you guys

[@Darkstar.....]

The dustia farming method is amazing. Takes some skill to get the chains and to never miss loot but it becomes muscle memory. I got a time of 5 hours 5 minutes for lvl 36 vaan (58 000 gil and held on to 27 flame staves just in case) after doing a run that took over 13 hours the first time i attempted (i put down to training) it for lvl 36 i lost time doing the hunts for thextera + flowering cactuar + village side quests for injured man also im not a speed runner(my 5 hr run i didnt do any unnecessary stuff). I opened the dalan chest on the 13 hr run. Realised what i did and had to reset. Most pain ever. Best i ever got was 4 flame staves in one single dustia and got killed by an alpha wolf trying to reset dustia without going back to rabanastre. Did 99 phoenix downs and got 20 flame staves and 21 on the other run. I had so much gil i got the grimoire for undead and used 70 phoenix downs and got 2 flame staves and 20 arcana. Do not get the monographs if your playing original on ps2. I dont know if the remake was better. I think the game took so long to make they didnt test everything. Every one says the pebbles and arcana dont affect drops i tested it and dont do it. So many people online say its a must and it must get better drops simply trusting blindly thats what it says they say better drops they say and people saying i noticed more drops after the morbid urn. Drops and good drops are different things. At best dont get them early game. After getting 20 arcana when my tests say they should have all been flame staves i wont get any monographs. Played this game for the last decade. Never realy noticed a difference besides the useless 3 gil drops. Some even say the diamond armlet makes no difference. Cant get zodiac spear if your wearing one. Isnt that enough proof. Loving the run. Helping me so much. Dustia strat is amazing thank you. Even beat razorfin and stole a water crystal before going into the palace(takes ages to steal).

[@fattmusiek5452]

Yooooo such a great run

[@inkheart602]

Ima remember this as the "god dammit" run bc blue jacket

[@jacobbaker141]

Yeah, like he’s programmed to always respond that way when someone tells him happy birthday. Must be his top gambit

[@OmegaTaishu]

Watched all of it. Man, what a ride!

[@TimLee356]

bravo to the amazing acapella at the end. just wish you guys would have rehearsed it a bit... not an easy song to sing for guys at 7 in the morning. i wish this game gets done quick again and again like chrono trigger and singing of the 'kiss me goodbye' continue.

[@frontonarnar1167]

I’m in the 50s and i don’t do nearly as much damage to hashmaal or the judge. The status ailment useage strat is insane, way to scary for me as a casual player

[@Omnimon152]

I love this game, thanks for the upload :)

[@mikegillespiemusic]

Incredible job runner

[@KeyRaven]

I have still not beaten the game but i love this game

[@prometheuszero9]

I happened to look at the back couch a shortly around 57:55 and noticed that everyone was quiet and sort of awkward looking with Muttski not sitting there and then around 58:00 I LOLed 58:15 "Man where the hell is Muttski at?"

[@gamkht]

Just finished it, pretty cool run, and it went very well (at least that's what it seems). Final Fantasy XII is my favorite one, and it's insane to see it being beat like that. The comments were good, they explained the strats well, but it was a little hard to hear sometimes. And I don't get why the runners didn't have mics on, they totally should have.

[@GhostKumo]

There were 4 mics to spread across 5 people. Soloman, Aleck and Freddeh were on constant commentary so Hoishin and Roosta split it depending on whether they were running.

[@Darkstar.....]

Dude i tried the dustier farming. Unarmed. Punched myself to lower hp from 50 hp to critical and got a 3 chain combo and died. Punched myself to death.

[@noobiewatcherz9938]

1:13:00 5:34:20 Black Orbs

[@MatuShazz]

Dude link the python script that shit sounds lit

[@SwitcherooU]

I would encourage anybody who plans on being on a couch for a GDQ or Limit Break to watch the Ajneb FFVII run from SGDQ 2017 with J2 and Davestereo on the couch. They did a good job of explaining run mechanics while also covering the story. This couch didn't even try to work in the story at all. Don't get me wrong, it's still entertaining to watch, but it could've been so much more.

[@itzdat1k1ddabawzzz72]

JHobz on the comments! What a great run! Don't know half of what they're saying but it's entertaining.I suck ass at this game lol it's hard imo. I got to the boss by Fran's village and simply couldn't kill it so I quit.

[@itzdat1k1ddabawzzz72]

After watching later in the run it was Elder Wyrm that I got stuck on.

[@neoqwerty]

@@itzdat1k1ddabawzzz72 Elder Wyrm was the boss I ended up learning the Nihopalaoa strats for. Basically, you can unlock the Nihopalaoa in the Bazaar, and from there, if you equip a character with it the item effects for that character gets reversed. Use the heal-every-status item on Elder Wyrm with the Niho on, and bam, all the debuffs it can be afflicted with. It's good for basically every tough enemy and the bosses almost never have full immunity to everything. Niho will make sure the statuses land 100% of the time, too. Just remember which character has the Niho or you're going to regret it.

[@haunted2781]

why do they keep crit hp 'ing Ashe and Penelo? just for style points? or a strat?

[@thehza2592]

7 months late, but I'll answer anyway. It's because there's a passive ability (spellbreaker) that doubles magic damage in critical HP

[@IYPITWL]

Countdonw? Homie said "1" and it started lol

[@beanlegume9965]

Freddeh seems like a cool guy. Not what I pictured him looking like though. Sweet beard!

[@BlimberryBoi]

it took them like 3 times as long to kill elder wyrm then it took me casually :/

[@kadajshin]

Is this the ff 12 for ps2 or it's the remastered?

[@QCmaxthebeast]

Definitely ps2 with the low res

[@jas3576]

so in this game balthier is 22...i mean come on.

[@jas3576]

also all the judges are like early thirty, the design clearly is that of late 40s and voice of mid 50s.

[@doyoubelieveingravity2252]

Aeolwn ok I will stop playibging games

[@stevenmahoney4021]

3:34 "raise you hand if you've ever been personally victimized by Regina George"

[@Sepilein1]

wow i had to google the name to be sure...and my assumption was right...i really dont know anyone else with the name regina and i watched that movie when it came out on dvd xD

[@illuaFGC]

Myy boooy Roosta :D

[@simonscott1121]

@1:33:30 Does the voice actor really say "MARKWISS" here or are my old ears deceiving me? Dafuq?

[@VileGlory]

All the voice actors pronounce it that way

[@froobly]

It's the British pronunciation, similar to how "valet" is pronounced "VALitt" and not "valAY." It's the British tradition of deliberately mispronouncing French words. I suspect it has something to do with a war at some point.

[@Metetron]

I started playing the game for the first time recently and immediately picked up on that. I don't speak a word of French, but man does it sound wrong pronounced like that.

[@OmegaTaishu]

4:39:12 poor Basch...

[@hymen0callis]

FFXII is a great game (probably my favorite FF). Sadly, the speedrun with its two (or four?) repetitive grinding segments makes it look like it's really boring. I wonder whether, with the remastered version, future runs will be at quadruple speed, doing the game even less justice. At least, it will be one of the quickest FF runs.

[@Sean0mac93]

hymen0callis Going by how the new job system will be, ps4 version may take longer. Very interested to see how it goes

[@sniperkain]

they are including a button option to speed up the game,so grinding may take less time that way

[@nesoukkefka1741]

Unfortunatly the IZJS version had a glitch allowing to get a completly OP bow as many time as you wanted after Barheim Passage so the speedrun of the IZJS version consist of just get 3 of this bows and just destroy everything with it while in Turbo Mod, which is boring even if the original version has spot for grinding which are boring to watch the overall run is much impressive and interesting to watch due to the need of an excellent execution.

[@hymen0callis]

Speedrunners go for the Seitengrat? Hadn't expected that. Guess I need to look into IZJS speedruns.

[@illuaFGC]

the jobs are really strong but usually you just need oil, fira, reflect and decoy anyway :P i really hope seitengrat wont be included in ps4 though

[@vrtex17]

F L E E I N G

[@faburos9012]

Kuso means shit so one of them just swore on stream

[@1993TylerT]

6:31:25 yep... Tidus' laugh is still more cringey.

[@spokiee2000]

Very impressive.... this is a Large game, and you guys totally made it your bitch :) FF12 is so under rated. One of my top5 EDIT: 3 hours into the stream and i cannot stand the bigger dude on the far right in the chair... super ignorant. LOL

[@Rashikal-xi]

The guy on the left talks way too fast

[@micahchurch5733]

Hoishin?

[@danielpetersen2307]

so, at around 1:30:10 or so, the y in Y'shtola's name is supposed to be barely audible when spoken. it should sound like shtola even though many of the voiced characters in ffxiv actually do pronounce the y

[@TSfish94]

I am so glad that “hero wolf” has evolved into an actual thing from just being a dumb meme I spammed in my friend’s chat a few years ago.

[@fantasyfan9320]

5:55 damn Vaan gettin ROASTED

[@TreesPlease42]

TW contains some self harm jokes

[@Fem_Channel]

4:33:35 this i need

[@QuanLovesGaming]

Nice speed run but I’m not a fan of the game.

[@josephmillner2182]

buzz killington with the long hair

[@mach22441]

Roosta talks too damn fast... Like he's a speed runner of talking

[@Matthewsaurusrex]

I had to check to see if I the recording was sped up

[@colinkmahon1]

Why do they keep talking about order of ambrosia? It isn't really relevant to the any% run

[@bmac4]

Colin Mahon You have 6 1/2 hours of FF12 speedrunning, they aren't just going to focus on the run that entire time.

[@OrElseEllipsis1945]

I agree with Robert. Plus, the guy who routed the Order of Ambrosia run is there, AlecK47 (green shirt). It was also a big deal in the FF community, and interesting for all runners, because of it's length and difficulty in routing. Fun fact that does apply to any%: Roostalol has the WR in 5h 46m 27s, and Hoishin has 3rd in 6h 3m 57s.

[@VileLasagna]

Started watching this and was feeling like playing it again. "I know this game has problems but there's so much that's so fun....." 40 minutes in, I'm remembered: "So, chests are random, stealing is random, there is a certain set of arbitrary chests that you cannot pick up if you want certain items from other chests later in the game otherwise you just permanently lose them for no good reason" Yeeaaahhhh..... I still REALLY like the things I liked about this game but screw this game and all this arbitrary and random BS =P

[@TheYiffingAtheist]

FF9 is completionist hell.

[@XcaptainXobliviousX]

the zodiac spear is the only one of those things thats actually dumb tbh. and thats coming from someone who poached hell-gates flames from cerebus' for 3 days trying to get damascus steel for a masamune.

[@Papercut625]

Zodiac Age fixed a lot of these problems. And it removes the chest bs as far as the Zodiac Spear goes.

[@knailstheman]

There are 4 chests to not open if you want the zodiac spear early. There are no other items in chests with funny requirements. Chests aren't random either. Some have a chance to spawn, and of those some have fixed items and the others have one of 2 set items per chest, or a range of gil. Some chests always spawn and have fixed contents.

[@knailstheman]

@@Papercut625 Zodiac age did nothing of the sort. It changed the contents of many chests, changing the locations of many spells and technicks and removed the early zodiac spear. It did not change steal tables or chest mechanics.

[@mosesgameplayer1102]

To say they are running for a mental health charity they dont show much tact with how much they talk about suicide..

[@makesime3330]

some much deceive it should be zodiac age version !

[@TheOujosama]

halfway through. i wish soloman would stay quiet. he contributes nothing to the couch conversation.

[@BBrecht]

Completely agreed.

[@michaelfingers7726]

From his initial comment he doesn't seem to care to be a part of the show.....Don't be on the couch if you can't contribute to the knowledge of the game or be somewhat entertaining.

[@MrAkaidu]

"Oh noooo"

[@bmac4]

Michael Fingers It's a running gag within the community to tease and poke fun at Soloman and it's been that way for quite some time so people like to do it. They know it and he knows it. I can assure you of he didn't want to be there he wouldn't be.

[@rufuswong4046]

He is the living Morty, from Rick and Morty! “Oh geeez!”

[@Penguinz13989]

the dustia farming is kind of lame tbh and made this run not that enjoyable to watch

[@cmanmaxwell]

I would have kicked all the couch members during Elder Wyrm.

[@YanouUTG]

Anybody else notice that the group NAMI is named after a character who has caused her fair share of mental illness in some older gamers? Ironic'd.

[@_xntrk]

Best waifu is Gadget from Rescue Rangers.