Thanks for watching! I'll be streaming most of today if you want to stop by and ask any questions about the new video. You can find me here: www.twitch.tv/andersonjph This video took forever. Nier Automata was meant to be next but after playing Odyssey I decided I had enough to say about it that I should go for that next. The video was meant to be 45 minutes. You saw how that turned out. I realize parts of this may seem a bit excessive but it was important to prove my points. Most of what has been said about this game so far has had little evidence to support it--on the moon side of things. The movement system has had some good discussions already. Here are some more links. This video will likely get copyright claimed by Nintendo but that's okay. Patreon is doing well enough to support videos like this one now. And check out HeavyEyed's channel if you're looking for some more content. He's under 10k subs while I'm writing this. I hope he gets above that. kzbin.info www.patreon.com/JosephAnderson twitter.com/jph_anderson discord.gg/8gSBsYC
@MasterRoyalSnow7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Anderson that 4:45 tho 😏👌🏻
@Toastrz7 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the next Nintendo video where they copyright claim it after you finish writing the first paragraph in your script.
@TheVeriOra7 жыл бұрын
Joseph Anderson I saw that YES, you can't deny it
@intheairex7 жыл бұрын
Makes video on Odyssey and free DLC is released immediately after... Patience is a virtue
@MasterRoyalSnow7 жыл бұрын
My jaw literally dropped when you said Mushrom Kingdom wasn't the 1st world.... you're brilliant dude
@Shayden527 жыл бұрын
I must point out a severe flaw in your critique. 1:41:15 - The Kooper is not throwing hammers but pans.
@Pumperknuckle7 жыл бұрын
Kerdon91 absolutely dismantled him. Hats off to you
@whotoldyouthisurl7 жыл бұрын
ok, everyone head on back home, this video has lost its point, nothing to see here anymore
@Good_Praxis7 жыл бұрын
I have lost all respect for Joseph, I now see him for who he really is.
@Starzoh7 жыл бұрын
Kerdon91 You're doing God's work good job
@reganblasphamous76427 жыл бұрын
This deserves a moon
@vickim13196 жыл бұрын
Don't you hate it when youtubers extend their videos by the ten minute mark
@Zock-6 жыл бұрын
Ren Hoek it’s a joke silly
@Wigsinator6 жыл бұрын
Like this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ24cnxvbZl_Z7c 95% of the point that Joseph makes, in 6:45.
@Swartgaming6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hate that! They just do it for the money
@tim30626 жыл бұрын
witnessing your profile picture has been the pinnacle of my existence.
@yellobello16 жыл бұрын
how many upvotes did you get LUL
@arthurperalta40973 жыл бұрын
Bringing up Chris Pratt in a Mario video. This man was ahead of his time.
@MegaZeta3 жыл бұрын
Not just timing but breadth... I suspect more and more people will begin to question the current publisher-favoring _(not_ developer-favoring) definition of _"Is this single-player game worth full price?"_ as _"How many hours does it take to 'complete' the game in various ways?"_
@ros97643 жыл бұрын
@@MegaZeta What
@dawoodshah64603 жыл бұрын
he's not dead
@mattdrummond35522 жыл бұрын
@@ros9764 his comment actually made perfect sense and was well written
@ros97642 жыл бұрын
@@mattdrummond3552 It did, but what did it have to do with the comment itself? I feel like this should have been its own comment instead of a reply
@GARGANTUANMASKEDFISH11 ай бұрын
I just wanted to come back to this video to state that you successfully turned "It's No Masterpiece" into one of the most overused KZbin video titles in existence. Congratulations on being the first.
@JosephAndersonChannel11 ай бұрын
I'm sorry.
@icecea10 ай бұрын
@@JosephAndersonChannellmao
@jerryrikki946610 ай бұрын
@@JosephAndersonChannel witcher 3?
@bimblor794510 ай бұрын
@@jerryrikki9466 bad
@Tocaric29 ай бұрын
@@jerryrikki9466 read the comment under the Lies of P critique
@jacoblovegrove46533 жыл бұрын
That analogy about Chris Pratt is a bit stranger considering he literally is mario now
@SadMan-um8yw3 жыл бұрын
God's Plan
@michaelsoftbinbows75803 жыл бұрын
"It's a me, Mario. That's not the voice, you're gonna have to wait for that."
@stibba42863 жыл бұрын
AHHAHAHAHAHA
@sergiolucas27813 жыл бұрын
He's so cool!
@Savariable3 жыл бұрын
As I read this comment I reached that point in the video
@mrs_trains_62134 жыл бұрын
"Can I pick the movie tonight?"
@rufex20014 жыл бұрын
Comment of the year!
@fortnitesexman4 жыл бұрын
Mr_Trains_62 his witcher review is basically two movies lmao
@Cyrus_got_verified4 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@dportillo14 жыл бұрын
Unironically i watch these before going to bed or while doing stuff, helped with my english
@OMORIDAILYNEWS3 жыл бұрын
"Nope, not after last time."
@AudreyGalaxy3 жыл бұрын
you were so dedicated to the bit about mushroom kingdom that you had me actually questioning if i played the game wrong
@eligiguere86973 жыл бұрын
Same I was so confused like what
@_eeeee_5103 жыл бұрын
You talking about it being the first? That had me confused too
@Phillyboi953 жыл бұрын
Me too I was like naww did I miss something lol
@lyleinnoe22103 жыл бұрын
So you cant think for yourself
@CrazyzzzDudezzz3 жыл бұрын
@@lyleinnoe2210 that’s not how you use that expression
@brovideogaming94472 жыл бұрын
You were so dead on about the Mushroom Kingdom thing, you almost gaslighted me into thinking it was actually the start, since I have not played Odyssey for years
@Wario_Guy Жыл бұрын
Yeah that kind of sucked… I wish it was harder, and it’s probably the worst “real” kingdom.
@friendofp.24 Жыл бұрын
Same here, and goes to show how mediocre this game really is. As someone who is completely unbiased towards Mario, who's literally never completed a Mario game before Odyssey, I can say that there were rare truly enjoyable moments (mostly in the Metro Kingdom) and everything else gave either a lukewarm sense of enjoyment or outright cold.
@idlegameplayer375610 ай бұрын
i was like "huh i don't remember starting in mushroom kingdom"
@frozentanukii9 ай бұрын
I thought that maybe since I had played the game a while after release, the original version of the game started you in the Mushroom Kingdom and they changed it in later versions for some reason. But nope, it's just nintendo game design
@shrimpshufflr77458 ай бұрын
@@friendofp.24 loud and WRONG
@froofris14743 жыл бұрын
No game review is complete without mentioning Dark Souls in the first five minutes
@filurenerik16433 жыл бұрын
Yes. Dark souls is an excellent game
@samgomez99423 жыл бұрын
Well to be fair, Dark Souls was a really successful game, and it definitely popularized some things in gaming.
@AubreyGal3 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls, such a good game.
@friedbacon62363 жыл бұрын
Ahh yes, Dark Souls, the game.
@Elvenlijk3 жыл бұрын
Lol I thought I'd seen everything and then someone calls out Dark Souls in a Mario game review. Wtf?
@GemSword3477 жыл бұрын
Filler Moon is my favorite Sailor Moon character
@hicclesilly6 жыл бұрын
GemSword347 This comment made me feel better after realizing how stupid my favorite Mario game is, thank you
@SagesRS6 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad porno
@runningoncylinders38296 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a bad inflation-based flash animation.
@dubiouswatermelon1594 жыл бұрын
It would have been hilarious if at the end he said "with all of that being said this game is my favorite game of all time" as deadpanned as possible.
@jon-umber4 жыл бұрын
That would be such a classic KZbin Video Game Critic Joseph Anderson Joke™ that I'm legitimately shocked he didn't actually do it.
@dubiouswatermelon1594 жыл бұрын
@@jon-umber I know, right!
@suspiciousindividual21744 жыл бұрын
“It has a little something for everyone.”
@Hitherto904 жыл бұрын
Joseph knows nothing but deadpan.
@lordroy883 жыл бұрын
That’s such a critic thing to do lol
@jacklloyd43762 жыл бұрын
is it just me that thinks its fucking hilarious that lady goombas will just fall in love with the first goomba to cross her direct eyesight
@TranslationHell2 жыл бұрын
hard proof that mario is a male power fantasy
@mashedboiledfried2 жыл бұрын
It's just you. I could go on a 10 hour long video about the societal norms of the Goombas, but I'll save you the time and just tell you straight up that the Goombette (lady Goomba) actually falls in love with the moustachioed Goomba wearing a red cap. That's no ordinary Goomba, that's not like every fish-Goomba in the Goomba-ocean of the Mario Universe. That's the only Goomba in the history of Goombas to rock that style.
@jumentoqueanima10 ай бұрын
@@mashedboiledfriedYesir.
@kestanecihasanpubg9 ай бұрын
wahmen
@Helperbot-20009 ай бұрын
@@TranslationHell truuuUUUUUUuuueee
@joyit60625 жыл бұрын
The part where you said mushroom Kingdom was early was hilarious I was completely fooled into thinking it was early game
@Gaming_Amateur5 жыл бұрын
I was literally questioning my memory of the game. Then I realized what he was doing.
@deonteharris40895 жыл бұрын
Joyit I thought the game just got updated because I only played through it once
@joyit60625 жыл бұрын
@@AEC.1 I didn't buy a switch until recently and I didn't know which games to buy with it. Tbh there's not much that I hadn't seen in parts from other stuff and I was interested in someone's opinion that didn't like such a popular game. I admit it was a kinda weird decision tho hah
@notmyfirst5 жыл бұрын
@@AEC.1 What is there to be spoiled? Mario games are purely about the gameplay and watching someone critique it won't ruin it
@somnia34235 жыл бұрын
@@joyit6062 damm and now they will release an switch 2.0 with double the battery life, i feel bad for you
@lospollosh4 жыл бұрын
You’re just jealous that you never had the world record for Bower’s Big Bean Burrito
@deadpoolmodelt-80094 жыл бұрын
And he did it blindfolded with a USB steering wheel while his brother was playing
@lukehahn47844 жыл бұрын
Deadpool Model T-800 but his controller was lagging
@unlimited84104 жыл бұрын
@Gay Bowser So long
@GreatJinjonator4 жыл бұрын
I actually really want to see what dunkey would have to say about Mr. Anderson's review. I always like the dunkviews because they always seem to be free of bias, but dunkey is a HUGE mario fan that praised this game for featuring so much mario nostlgia. Here, however, this mario fan counts it as a negative thing. Just goes to show how two people with similar tastes won't always agree. It also seems like dunkey only considered the main story line of the while Joseph included the loooong post game as part of the entire game.
@liluwuzivert11244 жыл бұрын
Spelling Bowser wrong is the equivalent of spelling a thwomp as a “thomp”
@elcour5 жыл бұрын
Normal people: mario Joe, an intellectual: märio
@Quadraginta13375 жыл бұрын
Normal people: Brother. Me, an intellectual: Bröther.
@@gamermapper He complained about repetition repeatedly for 40 minutes... I wish it was a joke.
@bruh98062 жыл бұрын
You should make a timestamp that mentions Chris Pratt
@24FramesOfNick7 жыл бұрын
Okay but super Mario odyssey takes a lot from spongebob squarepants battle for bikini bottom and I stand by that premise
@chabbab66987 жыл бұрын
24 Frames Of Nick the world 🌎 needs you to do a theory about this
@jaredwillebeek-lemair52987 жыл бұрын
Im going back to play that game again thx
@jag35967 жыл бұрын
boii this statement got my support
@Toastrz7 жыл бұрын
I stand by Battle for Bikini Bottom being a legitimately solid 3D platformer. Sometimes nostalgia isn't blind after all.
@briancollins12967 жыл бұрын
You speak truer than you know.
@OsscarBones7 жыл бұрын
I clicked the like button but didnt get a moon, is this a bug?
@joefish56897 жыл бұрын
Yeah you’ll have to make a new account and try again
@codacious147 жыл бұрын
You got a Moon! "Liking the video"
@mistermassi957 жыл бұрын
You have to click it 50 times.
@magentasound_7 жыл бұрын
Have you tried turning it off and turning it on again?
@danstraight93507 жыл бұрын
Some like buttons gives moons some just give one more like to the video better check all the like buttons though!
@verybored12614 жыл бұрын
Just spent two hours watching a man say Mario in Canadian while talking at length about 800 moons in Mario. And I enjoyed it, too.
@absoluteraft514 жыл бұрын
Here in the uk we crucify those who don’t say it “Canadian”
@tootz66974 жыл бұрын
@@absoluteraft51 Why thats the wrong way to say it😭
@machinaeZER04 жыл бұрын
Definitely the most Maerios I've sat through in my lifetime, haha
@verybored12614 жыл бұрын
@@absoluteraft51 Lmao pin me up on that crucifix
@pepi74044 жыл бұрын
Username checks out
@twin_victim2 жыл бұрын
I remember feeling accomplished after getting every moon in every area before beating the game... and then I stopped playing when I realized that several more would be scattered about in the places I just spent hours inspecting. I didn't feel excitement at that point - just exhaustion. You really put that into words when you said that it feels like no previous exploration goes unpunished. Very well-thought criticisms.
@Buffalo932 жыл бұрын
I suppose it best to speed run to the end and then come back, right?
@twin_victim2 жыл бұрын
@@Buffalo93 I suppose. But I really don't find that enjoyable, y'know? I like to take my time exploring and getting familiar with all the ins and outs of each area. It wasn't fun going back through all those areas (that I had just poured hours into) only to find that I now had more thrown onto my plate and must completely re-explore.
@joelsytairo63382 жыл бұрын
That’s 100%ing any game lol. It’s not really ever gonna be fun and exciting like beating the game. Pretty much every mario game the 100% is boring but it is rewarding if you have the time for jf
@Armo_932 жыл бұрын
I actually found it awesome to have more stuff to do after beating the game. You don't have to do it, you can beat the game with 124 moons and stop there but for the completionists and big fans of the game it’s really fun.
@joelsytairo63382 жыл бұрын
@@Armo_93 if you haven’t yet look up the secret Luigi sprites and hunt for those
@fakenamerealchungus98517 жыл бұрын
But Joseph You can *be a goombas*
@yeahmike38477 жыл бұрын
Christopher Kanski YOU CAN BE A TREE
@NotQuiteHere7 жыл бұрын
You can be a tree.
@alexdetlas26617 жыл бұрын
U CAN BE BOWSER! said enough...
@squibbdibb7 жыл бұрын
YOU CAN BE A GOD DAMN CACTUS!
@ArmoniteQL7 жыл бұрын
What if he already is?
@Kela10315 жыл бұрын
I feel like you didn't focus enough on the moons in the game.
@gibbydoessniffy44634 жыл бұрын
Kenny Larsen I agree too I think the moons are pretty fun and extremely creative
@natecortese11894 жыл бұрын
Yeah he only spent an hour and a half talking about them... how dare he
@MrSerpico1454 жыл бұрын
Yea, it's not like the game revolved around them or anything.
@sonicmeerkat4 жыл бұрын
guys it's sarcasm, that's why the comment has hundreds of likes because it's poking fun at the focus of moons.
@natecortese11894 жыл бұрын
sonic meerkat yeah I realized that I’m just really stupid
@natemorin14164 жыл бұрын
Wow, typical of a “KZbinr“ to always hit that 2:00:00 mark, smh...
@ess75734 жыл бұрын
ikr
@Spit8234 жыл бұрын
And still doesn’t have ads until 1 hour in. What a legend
@fredrikgranstrom67434 жыл бұрын
doing anything to push it beyond that 10 minute line
@Hitherto904 жыл бұрын
Obscene.
@pileofsand87564 жыл бұрын
Only for the views, disgusting /s
@reev9759 Жыл бұрын
"Your heart should sink so low that your thong should get heavy." That was the weirdest most out of place thing I've ever heard Joseph Anderson say in a video.
@evanpsarakis17575 жыл бұрын
As a massive Odyssey fan, I normally laugh at negative Odyssey reviews. But this was really freaking good. While I may disagree with you I respect everything you said. Every point you made makes sense and although I still love the game, my eyes were opened to Odyssey's flaws and I can see why people were disappointed. This was an amazing video, thanks man
@idontcheckmynotifications5 жыл бұрын
I just have to come and actually say thank you! Not just leave a like. There are too many Odyssey fans are honestly disgusting about it. Not all, but too many. Look how many people are going "you don't like fun" in these comments. T_T
@Taziod5 жыл бұрын
You gotta respect the guy that spends 2h to give a negative review lmfao.
@grokkel5 жыл бұрын
@@Taziod imagine being mad at a game reviewer for reviewing games and surprise surprise! not always liking them lmfao
@Taziod5 жыл бұрын
@@grokkel I'm not mad I don't even have this game. I just like this guys style
@grokkel5 жыл бұрын
@@Taziod FUCK I misinterpreted your comment, I thought you were hating on Joseph lmao I'm so sorry!!!
@mayhoinville96876 жыл бұрын
"Also, I'm sorry if that was tedious to go through for anyone who's already played the game already, but I figure if you have, then you're used to tedeum already and shouldn't be bothered by it." The salt is real and I absolutely love it
@HollowedEyeHounds6 жыл бұрын
Yet he loves and praises the god awful, tedious, uninspired, and blandly put together chalice dungeons in Bloodborne. Dude should get a clue.
@francomarrocu74306 жыл бұрын
@@HollowedEyeHounds roasted
@mikado64076 жыл бұрын
@@HollowedEyeHounds bloodborne isnt perfect but i like the chalice dungeons Tldr: stfu
@marnsdnfois70066 жыл бұрын
@@HollowedEyeHounds What is: Opinions?
@lum26akua286 жыл бұрын
@@HollowedEyeHounds You're comparing content that is extremely on the side...to the main content of another game. Like, please, if you take a second and think, you'll see why you're wrong.
@ericrobertbradley65914 жыл бұрын
Seeing Peach in a different outfit is one of those rewards that aren't moons
@stevecosmolove10453 жыл бұрын
@Adam Senzai dang I missed that on my first playthrough but tbh I don't think I would have been ready to handle that anyway🥵
@mariothemii3 жыл бұрын
@@stevecosmolove1045 Grow some mushrooms man. I believe in you.
@TopMostFlavor3 жыл бұрын
This guy gets it
@ericrobertbradley65913 жыл бұрын
@Rob Shabibo WHAT
@ericrobertbradley65913 жыл бұрын
@Rob Shabibo peach had a outfit for each level
@kblade082 жыл бұрын
That target audience segment was such an eye opener for me tbh.. I played odyssey and put it down way before I could finish it. It just didn't have the magic for me. My son, however, has beaten this game multiple times and will routinely return to it for another run through. You helped me understand WHY he was so obsessed.
@jacksyoutubechannel40452 жыл бұрын
It feels like there's an additional, lost demographic, as well. I genuinely don't know how kids that are the age I was when I first started playing Mario games are supposed to be able to play this. Having _options_ for moving around the world, completing challenges, and fighting is one thing, but _having_ to do them (or do them a specific way) for the base game is another. And if a core Mario game can't be a starting place for young kids, where on earth are they supposed to start? Mario doesn't need to be made for very young children, but it should be possible to at least make some decent progress in the game with practice and repetition--they always managed it on the legacy consoles. (I know he was saying that the target demo for this _is_ a new generation of young fans, but I'm talking about a younger age range. I would say that the kids I knew and went to school, soccer, camp, etc., with either had an older sibling with a console and started playing Mario at around age five, or _were_ the older sibling. And in this game, there are certain things, like controlling Jaxi on bridges, that the average five-year-old simply does not have the motor skills execute.)
@Corrupted2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 Eh, when did we start playing SM64? I'd say around 8-11 - I don't think it's designed for under 7 year olds at all
@jacksyoutubechannel40452 жыл бұрын
@@Corrupted My family definitely had 6 & 7 year olds playing the Christmas it came out. They definitely weren't beating it, but they were successfully playing levels, getting through the 30-Star Door, etc. ETA: Because it was the first 3D game, special movements (like those used in speedrunning) may have existed but weren't necessary for most things in the game, _and_ the game couldn't (and didn't) require a ton of finesse, so even the "slides" had pretty decent margins of error and Mario didn't respond super sensitively to controller inputs. Those are the things that I think of as insurmountable developmental barriers, things they just have to wait out, for most kids: requiring combination moves outside their processing capabilities and critical thinking, or requiring precision in movement that is outside their physical developmental stage.
@relaxn39182 жыл бұрын
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 the answer is quite simple; The internet. Most kids when they get lost or confused or don't know how to progress look up guides or videos on them. This way they continue. They also slightly adjust to the game more having these secrets here and there over time, allowing them to actually
@minnow13372 жыл бұрын
@@jacksyoutubechannel4045 The VR game gorilla tag has the most complicated movement I’ve ever experienced in a game and lobbies are full of 8 year olds bouncing around better than they can walk
@justvibin10875 жыл бұрын
Guys I watched the video *wheres my moon*
@eliasklein25805 жыл бұрын
For the time it took to watch the video you should get more moons (maybe 30)
@assassincharmander3905 жыл бұрын
VerboseQuestion 🌙
@ramenated72445 жыл бұрын
Holy shit clicked on this video thinking it was 20 to 30 minutes. I was really fucking wrong
@axelholm3195 жыл бұрын
Duh du Du DU, Du DU *DU*
@pixelsheep89395 жыл бұрын
Pfft just clicking on this video would give you a moon
@magna42276 жыл бұрын
This video in a nutshell Merrio: *Breaths* YOU GOT A MOON *Angry Dragon sounds*
@spade37795 жыл бұрын
Mario: *exists YOU GOT A MOON
@User-1939t95 жыл бұрын
better not stop
@sontho69955 жыл бұрын
@ViIvaSunner I 100% Odyssey, and I didn't enjoy it playing as much as previous 3D mario games.
@coffeebrown93715 жыл бұрын
Ok this is a joke but to be honest there’s that many moons that I’m ok with it there’s still plenty where you need to use skill
@catssucksatsmash80175 жыл бұрын
VeesaSugger yea and it’s a great game I just straight up didn’t enjoy as much as games like breath of the wild but i still enjoyed it a lot. Some of the power moons are way too easy to get compared to others which kinda dampers my sense of balance and accomplishments when I get a power moon since a lot are so easy to get, but I really do like it. 8.5/10
@MayerEO7 жыл бұрын
Dude... that bait and switch spiel about the Mushroom Kingdom being a beginning level.... friggin blew my mind. I'm one of the 2 people on earth that still haven't played the game yet, so that really took me by surprise!
@argmax1107 жыл бұрын
I played the game and I reaaally wanted to correct him in the comments but then he pulled that card and BAM FLABBERGASTED
@DMBisAwesome7 жыл бұрын
>I'm one of the 2 people on earth that still haven't played the game yet Um no, the vast majority of us haven't played and don't give a fuck about Nintendo games.
@Whispernyan7 жыл бұрын
If you listened to the tone of his voice and the words he was using you could make out how sarcastic he was being with words like "i guess" alot.
@Whispernyan7 жыл бұрын
Also Dmbisawesome, i'm pretty sure that makes your the the second person.
@glungusgongus7 жыл бұрын
DMBisAwesome Its good tho
@matthewyacono19692 жыл бұрын
Ik this video is really old now but I really appreciate the amount of effort that went into it. Not only the intensive research but also the fact that you somehow made a feature film length video essay so engaging
@ArchibaldClumpy2 жыл бұрын
Seriously the time in these videos flies by.
@toooydoeur2 жыл бұрын
bro this guy is a clown
@wind25362 жыл бұрын
@@toooydoeur I feel like by analyzing everything he sometimes misses the forest for the trees.
@cmonkey36982 жыл бұрын
Bro he didn't even show all of ruined kingdom, there is a whole sub area with extra platforming puzzles that gets unlocked after you beat the boss that he just acted like doesn't exist.
@awesomeguy2682 жыл бұрын
@@cmonkey3698 He probably means on the surface it's small. Personally I wouldn't think sub areas like that one really count towards a kingdom's size, especially a sub area as small as the one in ruined kingdom.
@EdmacZ4 жыл бұрын
Long story short summary of the video. The game’s biggest accomplishment is the control and movement, but the game doesn’t build around that and just tosses you into a playground where you get rewarded for doing the most basic rudimentary stuff. That would be fine, except every reward is the exact same. No matter what the challenge or goal. No unlockables, no extra modes, you just get the thing and move on. There are no lives, and thus no real punishment or danger, resulting in a game that is repetitive and a chore.
@lukehahn47844 жыл бұрын
I don’t really feel that way about this game but I still enjoyed this review even though it was 2 hours long
@MartinJHenebury4 жыл бұрын
Except buying hats
@lukehahn47844 жыл бұрын
Martin Henebury Buying hats is the only reason this game isn’t a 0/10 because I can have Mario only in shorts in freezing weather.
@nimcie83774 жыл бұрын
EdmacZ I agree, the movement of that game is what makes up for it.
@marcelorockman4 жыл бұрын
Getting lives in videogames lost all meaning since 10 years ago. There is no real punishment in getting a game over, just do it again. Losing coins here on the other side is a good punishment since you need them for hats, suits, collectibles and extra moons.
@butterchicken99127 жыл бұрын
I think he didnt like the moons
@ilexdiapason7 жыл бұрын
Sebas Rom99 really?
@wispy98597 жыл бұрын
Did he? I mean, he did enter professor mode for 2 hours. HMMMMMM.
@xDARKSHADEx7 жыл бұрын
you misspelled blue coins
@JOVAHK11N7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's like he doesn't like the core of the game, I'm 67 moons to 100%ing the game and there is an execive lot of variety to not get bored collecting moons, he however seems to be angry at the game for giving him something to play. The game is better than Zelda BotW in my opinion, and I honestly would consider myself more of a Zelda fan than a Mario fan. Don't get me wrong, BotW does some stuff in ways than no other gane has done before, but Odyssey is an overall better experience.
@butterchicken99127 жыл бұрын
Jesus Osvaldo Broch well he makes some very good points, in the end you just feel like you enjoy it or not, i didnt play it and i dont know if i would like the game
@InnocuousRemark7 жыл бұрын
Oh no I'm gonna listen to Joseph mispronounce Mario for two hours
@glennmatthews7587 жыл бұрын
mAYrio
@HoboborgBigBorgStreams7 жыл бұрын
meechhhhhreeoh
@FreezerBurnMC7 жыл бұрын
This triggers me to no end
@MasterRoyalSnow7 жыл бұрын
Mair-e-o 😅 lmao if it was anyway else I couldn't watch. Does anyone know why he does that, like what region he's from or does he provide an example because it seems like a conscience effort more than an accent or whatever. It's as if he honestly believes we're the ones pronouncing it wrong.
@lovablecylinder25247 жыл бұрын
Well, he says "sorry" like a Canadian, so that's something.
@Schrodinger_ Жыл бұрын
This video was cathartic in expressing my frustration with the moons. I really enjoyed the Dark Side challenge rooms, and I really want to try the Darker Side. But I'm not collecting the remaining 200 fucking moons I need to do it. After running through 2 worlds already, I'm done with it. The best metaphor I can think of this is if I wanted to go rock climbing, and I wasn't allowed until I spent 3 hours playing hide and go seek with my 6 year old niece.
@nopatiencejoe63764 жыл бұрын
I can't understand people in this comment section saying "It's a guy complaining for two hours about a video game, this is just a waste of time". Do these people understand that games take years to develop? And video game design is a broad topic and has the potential to be discussed for hours and hours on end... Specially when you talk about the legacy of 20+ years old franchise like Mario.
@b.u.r.n91754 жыл бұрын
Bro nobody cares about this shit. Videogames are just videogames, you don't need 2 hours to talk about a game, they're just pastimes, YOU are the one who should be enjoying them, not listening to some guy talk for 2 hours about a videogame for kids
@hubblebublumbubwub52154 жыл бұрын
Half the video is just him describing things I've already played while missing the point. KingK got the same opinion across in a third of the time.
@catalystgreenhorn91844 жыл бұрын
@N n You mean Nintendo fanboys. Just like their baby BOTW, don't you dare point out the flaws.
@pileofsand87564 жыл бұрын
@@hubblebublumbubwub5215 What does it matter how long a video critique is? It's not a game who can say the most in the least amount of time. I really appreciate the fact he goes out of his way to do an in depth critique and I am not the only one. I even think the video could have been even longer and I still would have enjoyed it just as much. But I guess you don't have the attention span to appreciate it.
@hubblebublumbubwub52154 жыл бұрын
@Pile of Sand Didn't you have the attention span to read my comment? I don't need to hear a long description of a game I've already played. I guess there's an audience for it but I think he gets too much credit for going "in-depth" when he actually goes in-length. "It's not a game who can say the most in the least amount of time." It kinda is "generally, the fewer the words that fully communicate or evoke the intended ideas and feelings, the more effective the communication" -Mark Twain
@TwitchFailsandWins7 жыл бұрын
"If you played the game you're used to tedium and wont be bothered by it" Damn.
@eanderson95997 жыл бұрын
Twitch Fails I haven’t watched the whole vid so don’t know the context of that quote, but I wouldn’t consider Mario Odyssey’s main campaign tedious at all. The only tedious part of the game imo are the moon paintings where you have to go somewhere else to get that moon (but that’s less than 5% of the whole game)
@progfoxmusic7 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments just to see if that quote was here. Brilliant.
@MisterHeroman7 жыл бұрын
He just wanted likes because someone posted that line before he did and got way more. Ironically that line hits hardest at joe himself because he did 2 playthroughs and spent all that time getting moons.
@SuperAvocadoo7 жыл бұрын
Which is ironic since he said that Stephen's Sausage Roll is one of the best puzzle games he ever played.
@SaintSC057 жыл бұрын
People still don't know what ironic means.
@Vinimous7 жыл бұрын
"Its Like having Chris Pratt as your online boyfriend" that's *REALLY* specific Joe, you want to talk about something?
@cool_benji Жыл бұрын
i saw so many challenge rooms in this video that i missed in my playthrough, even though those are by far the most interesting part of the game for me. which makes me realize a major issue with the game: unless you're a completionist, you're never incentivized to find the good stuff because you can easily get by without.
@aortaplatinum Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I'm in the middle of 100%ing the game and this is my third time having simply finished it. So this time, since I knew about the moon rock Moons and knew I'd be combing every Kingdom in the post-game, I just didn't bother with much extra stuff and just beelined it to Honeylune Ridge with usually the least Moons needed to advance. And yeah, I was shocked how little there was on the main path. Just doing the required "story" Moons and some of the simple extra ones needed to go to the next Kingdom is only going to show you the very basic top layer of the game. It's a far cry from being able to skip a dozen Stars in 64 or even skip one or two full stages if you really hate them. Odyssey's structure and design is the exact opposite of Sunshine- "here's a few required collectibles and then just do whatever I guess"
@monsieursp00ky447 жыл бұрын
"I'm sorry if this seemed tedious to anyone who already played the game, but I figured if you have then you're already pretty used to tedium and shouldn't be bothered by it." GOD DAMN
@V_y-r_e7 жыл бұрын
WHA-WHAAAT?!!!
@MasterRoyalSnow7 жыл бұрын
Shots fired 💀
@spookydonkey427 жыл бұрын
Seems kind of reductive to me when presented like that. Any game can be boiled down to its repetitive elements. Move right and jump. Strafe and shoot. arrange puzzle pieces. Dynasty warriors and street fighter are tedious if u consider its one gameplay type, but we go back to them for many reasons. Mario also. Its "tedium" perhaps for sake of cynicism here? Still a dope af video btw
@Sushi_Burrito7 жыл бұрын
In good games, those repetitive elements are built around a solid core. usually this is an interesting narrative, a gradually escalating difficulty, more complex level design, a gradual introduction of new mechanics that force you to rethink your initial impressions of the core mechanics... but his point is that SMO does none of these things and simply recycles the same "chalenges" over and over again.
@chosenundead31747 жыл бұрын
Thanks noob-noob. This guy gets it
@kalanielibrenoklinke94404 жыл бұрын
This video is just an excuse for Joseph to confess his crush on Chris Pratt.
@jeromealday6143 жыл бұрын
I died at the that moment. So many comparison to make and he chose that 😂😂
@NightRogue773 жыл бұрын
But you don’t need excuses to love the Pratt
@wanupafterhours40633 жыл бұрын
Oh man this chris Pratt comment…
@CakeLord73 жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU KNOW
@SleeperJauffre3 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ
@imjustsomebunny4 жыл бұрын
Introducing a new Joseph Anderson-brand cereal: Mary-O's
@grit1 Жыл бұрын
What I think everybody needs to take away from this is "if an optional menial task has a chance to reward something, it now becomes required". Doing all these small things for a chance at a moon is now something encouraged thus mandatory if you want to complete the game.
@Konamiagent8 ай бұрын
I greatly enjoyed Mario odyssey without feeling the need to even grind for 500 moons.
@cantrip97Ай бұрын
reward-based gameplay brain rot
@antimatter30846 жыл бұрын
The video went over every type of moon but that wasn't good enough, I want a detail analysis of every 880 moon, the location, and how to get the moon.
@dontstopmeenow5 жыл бұрын
With the Mushroom Kingdom thing I was like wait no I played that one like last did I not know you could go to it at the start? He even fooled someone that played the game damn well done
@micaelgarcia15764 жыл бұрын
It's there once you beat the game once.
@northernloss4 жыл бұрын
“It’s like having Chris Pratt as your online boyfriend” is my favorite analogy ever
@ArylBarrel4 жыл бұрын
SAME.
@Tom_Quixote4 жыл бұрын
I guess it was his way of coming out of the closet?
@EchoDissolve4 жыл бұрын
Analogy, not simile.
@northernloss4 жыл бұрын
@@EchoDissolve My bad, ty
@Helperbot-20003 ай бұрын
@@Tom_Quixote i wonder what his wife's thinking about that
@PenguinLord102 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I thought the "look at a flying taxi" thing was a parody thought up by ProZD. That's an actual thing. Holy shit.
@ToucanTheDragonagain7 ай бұрын
PROZD MENTIONED
@AlexanderWilithinIII6 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that Mushroom Kingdom bait and switch blew my mind. I saw the comments during your jab in the God of War video and didn't get it, but now I understand. WILD.
@GibusWearingMann6 жыл бұрын
I saw those same comments, and came here looking to find more. Instead, I found your comment, which makes me happy.
@brazencoronet175 жыл бұрын
Me too.
@brazencoronet175 жыл бұрын
@@Mertanian The thing is, he claimed that the Mushroom kingdom was the first level to trick people who haven't played the game into thinking the tedium was just teaching mechanics, but then showed them it was one of the last levels in the game to show just how underwhelming and easy the game is.
@planescaped5 жыл бұрын
I played the game and thought throughout him listing all the Mushroom Kingdom moons "Did I miss something?" "Was I supposed to go back there?" XD Odyssey was such a painfully mediocre game. Truest 4/10 I have ever seen.
@UniversalSketch2 жыл бұрын
People have probably said it hundreds of times by now but at 1:21:00 Mario looks at the right answer if you stop moving near the pipes, how would anyone figure this out naturally? Probably by failing 10 times in a row beforehand, so it's not impossible to do the first time but also it isn't designed in any way outside of that system that gives you the answer.
@JohnDoe-et5bq Жыл бұрын
so many games have the characters look at points of interest but this time its bad?
@bobbymcjoey9432 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-et5bq No they fucking don't 💀. Name somes games that have the character looking at points of interest as the only clue for what you're supposed to do.
@xaf15001 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnDoe-et5bq why would you stop moving in a platformer? and if I'm guessing and in my head looking for clues, why would I thought the clue would be on Mario, who just came here at the same time as me, and is mostly just my thoughtless avatar in the game world?
@roaringdino3000 Жыл бұрын
@@bobbymcjoey9432 botw and totk
@highnoon7097 Жыл бұрын
It's one of many examples of absolutely terrible game design. This just doesn't feel like a Nintendo game. It's like a third party game where they didn't have time to beta test and troubleshoot for flaws. A Ubisoft game then. They just threw a load of disjointed cack into a bin, spat in some hackneyed nostalgia and tried to serve it up as a Mario game. It's awful, genuinely one of the least pleasant game experiences I've ever had. The fucking useless joycon controller design didn't help things either. It shows how far Nintendo has gone from their own high standards when they churn out utter rubbish that is Odyssey and the Switch console in general. There's just abolutely no thought put into anything they release whether it's software or hardware.
@DanielSantosAnalysis7 жыл бұрын
Just finished the video, it was worth a moon.
@ClassicKrusty7 жыл бұрын
Shintai Just one? U can trip over ur shoelaces and find one moon.
@GermanPeter7 жыл бұрын
You also posted a comment, that's a moon as well.
@gamerchief77407 жыл бұрын
Shintai exactly just one A filler one
@hubblebublumbubwub52157 жыл бұрын
Started the video, got a moon Something appears on screen, got a moon Joseph starts talking, got a moon Joseph has completed a sentence, got a moon
@DeadSpaceWing7 жыл бұрын
I watched this 2 hour video for one stinking moon? Not worth it. Disliked.
@superflashyariel3835 Жыл бұрын
Before watching this video, after finishing Odyssey and doing a lot of the after game content I would talk about how Odyssey is this massive game with so much stuff in it and so much content. But this video made me realize just how many recycled filler moons there were, how small the kingdoms actually were, and how linear some parts of the game are. I still enjoy the game, but my perspective on how “massive” it is and my overall opinion has definitely changed.
@FrancisGX7 жыл бұрын
At first I was like “why is he spending so much time on the moons?” And then I remembered that’s the whole game o_O
@DuskLegend6 жыл бұрын
Francis Gabriel Xavier exactly so why even play it if you’re going to have such a problem with getting them
@minihjalte6 жыл бұрын
Dusk Legend because the game can still be interesting to critique and analyse?
@ВладимирКоролёв-х1м4 жыл бұрын
@@DuskLegend He explained that.
@mrcarrothead993 жыл бұрын
Considering how Mario Odyssey was one of the early Switch games, I think it was designed in a way to showcase the portable aspect of the console. By that I mean that the game is probably meant to be played in short bursts of time. I play Odyssey in the same way I play Animal Crossing, in a very casual manner. I turn on the game for about 30 minutes just to kill some time, collect some moons and play around with its fun movement mechanics before turning off and heading out to do something else. Not that I think your points are invalid, I actually agree with most of them and I am not trying to make an excuse for poor videogame design, but I think that playing the game on a slow pace can make the moon collecting aspect of the game feel much more tolerable and less of a mindless and tiresome chore. Anyways, great video! I don't usually watch long reviews, but this one made 2 hours feel like nothing
@wariolandgoldpiramid3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he streamed the game for 12 hours straight on launch. Which is NOT how the game is meant to be played. And it actually makes me wish more games could force limits on how you play at once.
@shamringo74383 жыл бұрын
@@wariolandgoldpiramid Forcing limits is stupid People should be able to play games however they want. Why would a game, used for entertainment, want people to stop playing because "it's not meant to be played like this"?
@haruhirogrimgar60473 жыл бұрын
@@wariolandgoldpiramid You are part of the reason Splattoon and Animal Crossing can intentionally f"ck over players.
@MegaZeta3 жыл бұрын
This comment doesn't seem to engage with one of the video's main points: that "short challenges for short bursts of activity" is one of the series strong suits, and that's *_not_* what happens here. Instead, you're given too many rewards for doing things that don't rise to that level-incidental and insubstantial.
@robkies3 жыл бұрын
@@wariolandgoldpiramid i played the game and finished it in a few hours it's short as hell yes, it was a rushed run, but that's because i wanted to see more worlds, but the game basically punishes you for being curious and leaving worlds too quickly other mario games don't make you leave levels too quickly, requiring X stars to continue, while here if it says like "10 moons for the next world" the game will last a lot less if i collect the stars required to just end the game in mario 64 the game wants you to collect at least 70 stars to finish the game and it's still gonna take a while for casual players, while mario odyssey, for casual players, it's gonna last a few hours only (i finished it in like 5 or 6 hours, a casual player)
@AHo-ne2df7 жыл бұрын
With a title this, nothing can go wrong
@jarv74417 жыл бұрын
except for grammar perhaps
@markcarsonjr75037 жыл бұрын
Yeah Nintendo fanboys everywhere instantly got triggered because they're weak
@benlink202forever7 жыл бұрын
Mark Carson Jr I'm a huge fan of Nintendo and found a lot of his points well made and had great examples and back up. Now what I did find annoying was the length of the video. As much as it's great to see him make the effort to explain everything, some parts are just absolutely unnecessary. Like bringing up Dark Souls.
@makiroll36036 жыл бұрын
EU4, what are you doing here? Don't you have some blobbing to do?
@squeaks56776 жыл бұрын
Exactly what UBER said with the self driving cars...
@gsofficial2 жыл бұрын
The juxtaposition of such a bright, colorful, happy game with his unbridled rage make this video entertaining from start to finish.
@LiamPorterFilms Жыл бұрын
Yeah, first it’s kinda obnoxious but it gets funnier the longer you watch.
@Josieschultz0095 жыл бұрын
This video summed up as simply as possible Why are two shrines devoted to throwing hammers at cheese
@chuggaa1004 жыл бұрын
moon
@Aleks-hp8pr4 жыл бұрын
Hammer Bros are lactose intolerant maybe?
@huefelix5563 жыл бұрын
C H E E S E
@ryanc27887 жыл бұрын
Just had to push it to the ten minute mark huh smh Edit: Holy shit thank you for so many likes
@wispy98597 жыл бұрын
In the end, he won. Money is power.
@RekizFilms7 жыл бұрын
Nintendo will de-monetize it anyway
@Azoedud7 жыл бұрын
Are you all being sarcastic? Sorry for not identifying sarcasm very well
@ryanc27887 жыл бұрын
Azoe yes, just a joke
@Azoedud7 жыл бұрын
Oh, alright, thx.
@jacobosborne99367 жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't played the game the bait and switch with the Mushroom Kingdom WAS a masterpiece.
@Schwallex7 жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't played the game, you are an idiot for watching this video. And of course by the standards of an idiot a very basic writing technique is a masterpiece. While by the standards of a Joseph Anderson it was meh at best.
@ethanmathoo21177 жыл бұрын
Schwallex Calm the fuck down
@MrMetalforever57 жыл бұрын
Look at this faux comment-section critic flexing his intensely minuscule intelligence, good on ya Schwallex, you're a certified idiot.
@setomanda32727 жыл бұрын
+Schwallex What did this man do to you?
@LloydRhodesBrandon7 жыл бұрын
+Schwallex Holy fuck you're horrible
@absollnk2 жыл бұрын
I spent 50 hours collecting every single moon in the game, and watching this footage, I barely remember any of it. This helped me a lot in pinpointing why odyssey was Just Pretty Good to me instead of the 10/10 it feels like everyone says it is
@ralphiecifaretto89612 жыл бұрын
Who told you to get every moon in the game? That's on you.
@absollnk2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphiecifaretto8961 sorry I thought the big collectible count they were advertising would be fun and interesting as that's the standard expectation for a video game. Next time I'll go into a game to have no fun instead
@ralphiecifaretto89612 жыл бұрын
@@absollnk Why do you feel the need to get EVERYTHING when it's not needed to beat the game?
@absollnk2 жыл бұрын
@@ralphiecifaretto8961 because I'm a completionist and I value getting the most out of every game I play
@ralphiecifaretto89612 жыл бұрын
@@absollnk That sounds like OCD to me.
@islandboy93817 жыл бұрын
Of course its no masterpiece.. That title goes to: SUPER MARIO BROS 2 BAYBEEE THE ONE AND ONLY TRUE MASTAPIEECEE #objectivefacts
@GR33DMUSIC7 жыл бұрын
Garfield kart*
@gamerchief77407 жыл бұрын
Homer J. Simpson what?! You dunk KNACK 2 IS THE REAL MASTAPEECE
I think the moon vs. korok thing is the crux of the issue here. Korok seeds were kinda dumb and really repetitive, but the entire point of them was that you were never meant to get all of them. Your final reward is for collecting half of the total korok seeds in the game, which makes sense since BOTW has a massive world map and everyone is going to take a different path through it. Moons are designed like korok seeds but given the weight of the stars in the other games, which makes very little sense. In all of the other 3D Mario games, it's not unreasonable to collect every single star to get the full experience, but collecting every moon is just dull and repetitive. I think you can have a good time with Odyssey if you simply collect enough moons to complete the main quest, and maybe enough to reach the 500 moon ending. But there's really no reason to collect all of them, and that's a serious departure from what we've learned in all of the other Mario games to this point.
@JP-sd7di4 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. There are almost as many Power Moons (880, or 999 if you count the ones you can buy) in this game as there are purple coins (1000), which is just ridiculous
@connorp37644 жыл бұрын
You know, I don't think the moons were that bad of a concept. It's like, say, ketchup. Would you eat from the bottle straight? No, I don't think so, I hope not at least. But would you eat ketchup on a burger, or with fries, whatever your preference(don't think into the comparison too hard, it's a condiment widely used in this manner)? Most people would. What I'm saying is the moons needed something to pair with, that aren't as numerous or easy to get. Keep the moons, but add "stars" or whatever, and keep it to around the usual 120, or maybe less. it doesn't even need to be in the base playthrough. Literally just keep it as it is, and when you finish the base playthrough, just add challenge levels and objectives like sunshine and 64 to really challenge the player. The ketchup now has a burger to accompany with it, complementing each other.
@blarneystone384 жыл бұрын
@@connorp3764 I think this is a good idea, and the funny thing is that previous Marios had exactly this, in the form of 1-ups. Many 1-ups are designed the same way as most Odyssey moons - sitting out in the open in slightly hard-to-reach places, or the reward for a simple challenge. These accompanied the more significant rewards, stars/shines. The issue was that 1-ups ceased to be extrinsically rewarding as time went on, because game overs stopped meaning anything in the more modern titles and because the games gave you so many lives that you would never really be in danger of getting a game over anyway. Moons are nice because they do give you an extrinsic reward (one step closer to a new area), but because so many of them were so easy to get it made the more challenging ones less meaningful. I really like the idea proposed in this video (at least I think it was this one, I watched a few) of partial moons - half moons, quarter moons - for the easier challenges. That allows you to make everything rewarding in some way, preserve the importance of the bigger challenges, and it even thematically fits with the idea of moons.
@woah53334 жыл бұрын
Such an easy fix too? The korok seed moons just don't be moons coz they dilutes the moons rewarded from beating challenging levels
@General12th4 жыл бұрын
You only need 500 moons to unlock the last bit of content, and there's no counter telling you how many moons you have left after that point. The game is deliberately designed to _not_ convince you to get them all. If you feel like you have to anyway, just because "it's a Mario game", well, that's on you.
@davidheinrich76417 жыл бұрын
I love your sarcastic comment in your vids. Personal fave in this one: "Sometimes you're... a stretchy onion thing; the dream of every child."
@jimbogreen70297 жыл бұрын
what about "If you played the game you're used to tedium and wont be bothered by it"
@benlink202forever7 жыл бұрын
Jimbo Green pretty hypocritical, but none the less savage.
@xEric19937 жыл бұрын
omg that one killed me lol
@squeaks56776 жыл бұрын
Eevil I Calm down. He likes a joke, so what?
@erikm8373 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, your points about many of the shrines feeling like they were thrown together in a basic level editor makes me think that some kind of Odyssey Maker game would actually be great.
@evelynposegate29683 жыл бұрын
1:42:56 I actually missed the moon you get by jumping into the first pot of stew and went straight for the second moon, because I thought that jumping into the first pot would be too easy and obvious to be its own moon. when I got the first moon later i was actually insulted.
@pr44205 жыл бұрын
When you're only going to watch one more video before bed...
@drago30365 жыл бұрын
#relatable
@rowk195 жыл бұрын
pr44 THATS what I’m doing right now lmao
@joshuaavila97104 жыл бұрын
Same
@nopatiencejoe63764 жыл бұрын
That's because you guys didn't watch the 7 hour review of pokemon ORAS
@omniscientomnipresent55004 жыл бұрын
... Nooooo ??? Ok I admit it
@j03man443 жыл бұрын
16:33 "it would be like having Chris Pratt as your online boyfriend" This line had me stunlocked for a full minute. I had to rewind the video because I couldn't stop thinking about how amazing that comparison is.
@covereye57312 жыл бұрын
And how has this feeling evolved during these Mario Movie days?
@StarchieHalo2 жыл бұрын
It's by no means a bad game but I was taken back by the absurd amount of moons in the game, especially with how many were just: break this rock, ground pound here, use this capture for 2 seconds, talk to this npc.
@tortoisewarrior48552 жыл бұрын
This is why I am begging they don't release an Odyssey 2. 3D world and the galaxies were so much better in every way
@GenoBlue2 жыл бұрын
@@tortoisewarrior4855 um if they made odyssey 2 actually really good and creative level design, keeping the movement options or expanding upon it then it would be a masterpiece
@user-hb7hg2zh7n2 жыл бұрын
To me that exact reason why it is a bad game, the content needs to be engaging enough to want to continue, there was no way I was doing all that obviously repetitive stuff, compared to other Mario games - Galaxy, 64, Sunshine in particular this is INCREDIBLY lazy
@JoeMama-yd1ve Жыл бұрын
the moons felt like the "Collect ten direwolf pelts," of platformers. Just stupid busy-work, like no give me something to platform! I don't want just pointless, brain-dead tasks for the sake of completing tasks.
@josiahbaumgartner7643 Жыл бұрын
@@JoeMama-yd1ve I want busywork in between my big quests 🤷🏻♂️ I like getting distracted by little 30 second detours
@fatihcaylakcaylak41516 жыл бұрын
The part that starts at 37:40 is BRILLIANT. I keep coming back to this video just because of it.
@skub22do5 жыл бұрын
I skipped to this part from your comment which may have changed my perspective on it, but personally I thought the way he presents the point was really stupid. Having played the game I obviously know the mushroom kingdom isn't first, but he keeps going on with the joke for about five minutes, and then just uses the "well oddysey is tedious haha you should be used to it" shit. The point is certainly valid, it's just a really annoying and antagonizing way to present it.
@radekseky45715 жыл бұрын
@@skub22do Not a joke. I haven't played the game so this was a perfect explanation of the game's gameplay loop for me. I could even argue that I didn't have to watch the rest of the video after that. I understand tho that to you it might seem he's ridiculing the game when you knew it.
@kevinnigins94885 жыл бұрын
skub22do it wasn’t a joke, the point of that section was to emphasize his point on how boring and tedious this game can be.
@planescaped5 жыл бұрын
@@skub22do ....Jesus.... -__-
@GravitySmashify5 жыл бұрын
@@skub22do I think the reason he did it was because that one world pretty much exemplified all of his criticisms about the game. By going through the world and its moons, I could see how even the "first" world was pretty tedious and could have been more challenging, but whatever, it's the first world, so hopefully it would be better later on. I was pretty shocked when he mentioned that it was one of the last worlds in the game. It evoked the feeling that "If you find this boring, then the rest of the game will be too." I think going through a full world in the game was a good idea to let uninformed viewers know the general pacing and variety of gameplay uninterrupted.
@AF-dm1sg7 жыл бұрын
That mushroom kingdom bait and switch. Damn. Good Critique
@DandyGuy7 жыл бұрын
Having not played the game it really got me.
@brightsuperstition7 жыл бұрын
Same here. I haven't played SMO, nor do I have any plans to since I've never been a Mario fan, but I never would have thought in a million years that something like the Mushroom Kingdom would be anything but introductory tutorial material. Well played, Anderson.
@danbeucler30297 жыл бұрын
just remember the words of a somewhat familiar man. He's not trying to retroactively convince you that you didn't enjoy the time you had with the game. if you loved it, great; if you liked it, great; if you didn't play it, great; if you didn't like it, great; if you hated it great.
@UnicornStorm7 жыл бұрын
nah, he just tries to convince others not to play the game ;-P
@danbeucler30297 жыл бұрын
UnicornStorm (he's the one who said that btw).
@UnicornStorm7 жыл бұрын
he also said that the game isn't for veteran mario fans, but specifically for newcomers..... But to clarify: I'm not implying that he actively wants to discourage people from playing the game, but this is just the nature of a negative critique.... And I found it way more subjective and hyperbole than his other videos
@Xbob427 жыл бұрын
It's not his job to sell or not sell anyone on the game. Just to give his opinion.
@Antiformed7 жыл бұрын
"Video games are art, and should be critically appreciated as such... as long as you don't dislike a game I like."
@TheRadioSquare4 ай бұрын
This one's a classic, baby. It's not for everybody, but it's still one of the genre defining video game essays of 2018.
@notthis95863 жыл бұрын
Bench friends the best moon when your dressed as a clown for it, major "we live in a society" energy
@gustogay1903 жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of stuff in this video, the bench friends opinion is not one of them. That moon made me smile, the way he speaks in a lower tone than every other new donker. There’s nothing much to it gameplay wise, but it’s funny. Good moon.
@Sightss_4 жыл бұрын
KZbin is fascinating. There are a bunch of relatively recent comments from people apologizing for disliking prematurely, and respectfully disagreeing. A lot of people doing that from the get go. Some are saying its horrible, while others argue it's ok at best. So many opinions. And then you have people who just dislike instantly never to come back. Possibly leaving a comment saying the video is ass... Goes to show how many different people there are, and how they can change and reflect on what they're being told. Wierd how a vid about a mario game could bring this out so clearly
@infinityheart_tm92704 жыл бұрын
Also the realization like 5 minutes after 100%ing the game that the best part about the game is just skipping over it(Speedrunning it)
@Mqstodon4 жыл бұрын
Ok but, leaving a dislike is not bad? Leaving a dislike cause you disagree with a video isn't bad. People that disliked and said they didn't like the video aren't dumb or fanboys, they just didn't like the video
@marcocognome18354 жыл бұрын
This Is the sad magic of t the internet "insert magiacale effect"
@leonconnelly53034 жыл бұрын
Yeah people think things. We got a fucking Aristotle over hear
@ayazyaman65064 жыл бұрын
@@Mqstodon leaving is a dislike isn't bad leaving a dislike because of the title is bad I remember when this video released in about an hour there were 3 thousand dislikes
@Bboy101105 жыл бұрын
I genuinely forgot that there was a snow kingdom in this game.
@benmjt4 жыл бұрын
It really is a shockingly limited piece of level design, they must have run out of time or something, it's barren.
@infinityheart_tm92704 жыл бұрын
Tfw you realize that the best part about the game is skipping over it
@aesynk35372 жыл бұрын
Honestly, even after all this time, I have to say I enjoyed this game a lot. But this video is a good perspective on why many people don’t like it the way I do.
@leeartlee9152 жыл бұрын
I find this fascinating. So it sounds like you acknowledge (or at least recognize how others could see this game) but still like it a lot. How is that possible? Is that you disagree with the criticisms? That, despite the issues, you still enjoy exploring the worlds? For me, I found the worlds really cool, Mario’s move set incredible, and (at first) the possessions really neat. But it didn’t take long for the bad moons to start tainting the entire experience for me. Like for every “good” moon, there were 3-5 not great moons, followed up by a few “wtf” moons. I’m very very curious what your thoughts are.
@Jewce242 жыл бұрын
@@leeartlee915 I’m currently trying to 100% the game and the thing that keeps me coming back is the movement and traversal options for Mario and Cappy. If not for the movement I would’ve dropped the game a long time ago.
@leeartlee9152 жыл бұрын
@@Jewce24 lol, talking about butting into a conversation. Aren’t you already bitchin’ at me in your original post about how “I haven’t played the game in 5 years”? Apparently that’s bullshit as you’re playing it right now.
@aesynk3537 Жыл бұрын
@@leeartlee915Hey! I’m a bit late responding to you here 😄 Mario Odyssey is a good game. A great game, even. Even after you beat it, there’s still so much things to do, the worlds are well thought out and its style is really reminiscent of Mario Galaxy and Mario 64. The soundtrack (while it’s not the best if we compare it to older Mario games) is delightful to me and to be honest, I’m glad that was the first game I played on switch! Mario Odyssey is a colorful, nostalgic, gorgeous game, and while not being super hard, it’s fun. And that’s what makes it so cool. It wasn’t made to be a masterpiece, nor be the best super mario game, it was just made so you sit back and have fun. ❤️ I do have one or two negative points, but in no way it outweighs the excitement I had playing this game for the first time.
@leeartlee915 Жыл бұрын
@@aesynk3537 Hmmm, yeah, I could see that. I like how you framed that too. “It’s not the best Mario game but just meant to be fun”. I think if THAT was what I saw more frequently, I wouldn’t be so shocked by the general opinions on the game. But to see people call it the BEST Mario game EVER, yeah, that just blows my mind a little. Thanks for taking the time to reply. I appreciate it.
@ProtestantsRUs7 жыл бұрын
I really liked the game, but I absolutely understand where you're coming from. It's kinda hard not to with the almost comprehensive list of examples lol. Even though I really enjoyed Odyssey, it's essentially my first mario and I would have nothing to compare it too. I also just love seeing someone be critical about it for once instead of "literally applauding". Great video dude, it was 2 full hours, you droned on about the same point the entire time, and I still watched the whole thing. And from someone who makes 15 minute game reviews on youtube that take 3 hours, I cannot imagine the amount of work this must have taken to achieve in game, record, and permutate every single example. Great work.
@dootdoot61307 жыл бұрын
*Reads title* WHAT DO YOU MEAN IT'S NO MASTERPIECE *Watches vid* Understandable.
@kwaddell7 жыл бұрын
MaddogVSC coulda been a patron, it was released to backers yesterday
@TheBrownieSundownHD7 жыл бұрын
>2 hour video > Commenting 14 minutes after upload Yeah, you watched it alright
@WheelyMan2607 жыл бұрын
look up.
@Birdie_7 жыл бұрын
Have a nice day
@LiteralmenteFadul7 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly
@timsonss4 жыл бұрын
Joseph: *talks about how Mushroom Kingdom is the first and the easiest* Me: I know he's gonna say it, I know he is gonna say it that it shoud have BEEN the first one
@karl-rconnon99744 жыл бұрын
This is what drove me to the comments section. I’m tearing my hair out listening to him describe the mushroom kingdom as the first level and how it’s used to introduce the controls. It’s infuriating 😤
@karl-rconnon99744 жыл бұрын
I shouldn’t have paused the video!!!!
@JezMM4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, while I get his point of view from the overall video, this part did irk me a little. Mushroom Kingdom isn't supposed to be a proper kingdom which is more challenging than what came before it, it's supposed to be a relaxing "victory lap" level where you enjoy the atmosphere and revel in your victory over the main story. The fact that it has no music, opting for serene ambience, makes this very obvious to me above all else. Now, naturally if you don't enjoy what makes up the majority of the game in the regular levels, you won't enjoy them here either so I don't blame the video creator for not being satisfied with Mushroom Kingdom as a level, but it still seems massively like missing the intention of the level, especially since the main point of that discussion was likening it to a tutorial stage, which I don't agree with. It's meant to be a palette cleanser, not an appetizer. To clarify though, I can fully appreciate the viewpoint that such a level shouldn't exist at all and the developers should have made every level a proper level. I liked MK as a change of pace in atmosphere though.
@sontho69954 жыл бұрын
@@JezMM I would agree with if Odyssey didn't have the mushroom kingdom listed as the FIRST kingdom, it also doesn't help that previous 3d mario games (galaxy 2, 3d land, & 3d world) had challenging worlds & missions after the final boss.
@JezMM4 жыл бұрын
@@sontho6995 It's placement in the menu is clearly meant to reflect that it's where Mario physically began his journey (the opening cut-scene specifically takes place above the Mushroom Kingdom and Mario gets knocked to the Cap Kingdom from there). Plus, if it was placed in unlock order, the kingdom selection screen would have to jump to the moon, back to earth, and then back to the moon again when scrolling through the last few kingdoms, which would be pretty awkward looking. And... Odyssey DOES have challenging worlds and missions after the final boss, they take place on Dark Side and Darker Side. Mushroom Kingdom, as I argued in my previous comment, is meant to be a little relaxing breather level which is there just for fun, between the story climax and the true final challenges. It's actually pretty nice that Odyssey provides post-final boss content for players of all skill levels through Mushroom Kingdom, considering the other games only cater to hardcore players once the credits have rolled.
@hueoskar48772 жыл бұрын
I can agree with most of your criticism. I played every 3D Mario and loved 64, 3D world and galaxy 2. But I still had the most amount of fun playing odessey. Most moons aren‘t unique and it‘s too easy most of the time. But for me the movement just fixed it all. Although there are 880 moons, grabbing them in „unintended“ ways with trick jumps was so fun! It really isn‘t a perfect game but for me the experience was great.
@rednidedni38752 жыл бұрын
The thing that killed it for me was that those trick jumps just were never necessary or really rewarded. You can do some really cool tricks and get to places in ways that feel unintended... but then you're still just collecting a moon you could have gotten the normal route, but slightly faster. It felt like wasted effort - why bother, when you don't get anything out of it? The game has all this movement and tech, and then it just refuses to ask you to use it. Perhaps it's on me coming to a kid's game looking for challenge
@EvilPapagali6662 жыл бұрын
@@rednidedni3875 You are right this is a kid game. The way they did it it was perfect. Easy for anyone but those who know how to play can do cooler and faster. Mario games are like that. The problem with this game is that there is no diference in the harder and the ridiculous gifted moons. Same problem with Zelda botw, lot of content but nothing seems unique besides the main story
@thatitalianlameguy22352 жыл бұрын
@@EvilPapagali666 except galaxy was also for kids and not this easy
@EvilPapagali6662 жыл бұрын
@@thatitalianlameguy2235 You absolute can defeat the final boss only doing the easier levels. Same with Mario 64 where you can defeat Bowser with 70 stars and isnt that hard to get that number, but to get the 120 you need to pass some challenges. Galaxy have some reused levels with timer or only 1 bar life that is harder, but to pass planet to planet colecting only the necessary to proced? Not hard at all. But yes, Odissey is a bit easier, but that is with every new games..
@thatitalianlameguy2235 Жыл бұрын
@@EvilPapagali666 most of the content is original more meaty and always more challenging because there's less variety and the progression of worlds means that they are allowed to increase challenge while odyssey cannot because you can miss the first version and therefore all challenges are of the same difficulty regardless of world, a fundamentally flawed game
@Freezeflame226 жыл бұрын
As someone who hasn't played the game, I jaw-dropped when you revealed the Mushroom Kingdom was in fact one of the last kingdoms rather than the earliest.
@uhacharly816 жыл бұрын
FreezeFlame22 I've the played the game it's mostly fan service
@wolfie82276 жыл бұрын
I haven't played it either and it just looks boring
@uhacharly816 жыл бұрын
Wolfie yep it is
@nekoking69486 жыл бұрын
I beat it 100% and despite that I found it boring. I just did it cause I paid 80 f%%kin bucks on the damn thing. got a hat in time on steam for 30$ and I played over 100 hours of it. Large high budget games feel less creative these days.
@michaellucas62306 жыл бұрын
Then why are you watching this video if you don’t want spoilers
@sylvestrecantu72954 жыл бұрын
"No, you are nitpicking and biased, I win, bye bye!"
@JC190213 жыл бұрын
Where is this from?
@supermarioplush14653 жыл бұрын
YES YOU ARE RIGHT THANK YOU NOW I DON'T HAVE TO YELL AT MY BROTHER!!!!!!!!
@raulendymion99173 жыл бұрын
We did it everyone! After years of work we've found the perfect comment, go home, it's over. Victory is ours
@samgomez99423 жыл бұрын
I love Dunkey but man he is so much of a Mario fan boy it hurts. I mean, I'm a Mario fan boy too but I feel like really looses his objectivity when talking about Mario
@sambhavsingh74153 жыл бұрын
@@samgomez9942 I think its more about preference. He rips on 3d world and sunshine regularly. But he does has a soft spot for the mainline 3d mario games.
@thecondescendingjosh42574 жыл бұрын
The problem with Super Mario Odyssey, that isn't painfully obvious on a first playthrough, is that the game feels unfocused. The first time around(when the game launched) I wanted to collect everything, and so I did. The second time I picked up the game(about 6 months ago) I started playing and was enjoying my time, but there was something off that eventually made me stop playing. I then realised that most of the moons(except for a very, VERY few exceptions) aren't memorable. As long as you find enough, you're able to move forward. I haven't played Super Mario 64 in quite a long time but I still remember racing Koopa the Quick, fighting King Bob-omb, the monkey that steals your hat, helping the snowman get his body...the list goes on, and I can barely remember the rabbits in Odyssey. The game gives you a lot of freedom, but that freedom makes the game feel unfocused and somewhat uninspired. Sure, there's a gazillion moons to collect...but you can stumble upon one and that's that... mission accomplished, I guess - except it didn't feel like a mission, nor an accomplishment. Super Mario Odyssey is still a good game, don't get me wrong, but better than its predecessors...it is not.
@pileofsand87564 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@Mqstodon4 жыл бұрын
I mean that could also be becaue odissey has more moons, which makes it more difficult to remember them since you collect so many.
@carlotta4th4 жыл бұрын
You have to keep in mind that some of that is nostalgia, though. Sure no one is going to remember the "jumprope forever" moons, but kids will remember other ones and how tricky they were to get to. And they may be just as nostalgic about those as you are about the games you grew up with.
@Muddy1204 жыл бұрын
I disagree with most of these points and think is has great moon design past some filler ones and is very inspired and well made and the best Mario game ever made and created too
@Salieri014 жыл бұрын
Muddy120 well you are fucking wrong
@UEhappydudey5 ай бұрын
Dude really brought up Chris Pratt in a Mario video five years before the movie. Hats off to you my good sir.
@BreninWatson7 жыл бұрын
Your analysis videos are the only ones I watch while actually looking at the screen. I normally just "podcast" other creators' videos but you don't just plaster random gameplay footage everywhere. When you show something on screen, it's to make a point about the topic at that moment and I absolutely love it. Seriously love the videos man, I watch them on repeat more than I would like to admit.
@e-ip6oy7 жыл бұрын
wow just had to stretch it to ten minutes...
@wispy98597 жыл бұрын
Ad revenue, everybody wins. Oh wait
@joecromarty66827 жыл бұрын
Happy Builder This comment acts as a summary to his opinions on odyssey.
@mattcubed96585 жыл бұрын
@@joecromarty6682 Your comment acts as a summary of you obviously not getting the point.
@joecromarty66825 жыл бұрын
Matt Cubed is his point not that odyssey has been needlessly padded with useless content in order to stretch out the play time.
@vukcurovic27705 жыл бұрын
@@joecromarty6682 no, his comment is a joke for the lenght of the video
@BizerkPixel7 жыл бұрын
imo, the best part about Odyssey was its movement options. Speedrunner's dream right here.
@hellshot86 жыл бұрын
sadly, many have given up speedrunning it because you need to use motion controls to go as fast as possible
@BizerkPixel6 жыл бұрын
yeah that's pretty lame, but even casually, there's so many options to get around and get moons in different ways which I'm a sucker for.
@DrPumpkinz6 жыл бұрын
Max C It currently has the most active players on speedrun.com by a huge margin.
@isthisaname63316 жыл бұрын
Sadly most are motion controls and are rarely used in playing the actual game.
@spyr0guy3 ай бұрын
Odyssey is at its best when you add challenges and restrictions yourself (speedrun, minimum/no captures, can't touch coins, etc), but at that point, you're just doing the game designers' jobs for them, and that's unfair to ask of the players.
@Aires4572 ай бұрын
I agree completely. Speedrunning is the best part of this game, because it makes the game actually challenging
@Devilmangu7 жыл бұрын
I think a lot of people are disliking the video without even watching it first, I've already read too many comments complaining about "how mushroom kingdom is not the first level".
@Furionic6967 жыл бұрын
Most people do other things while watchng this kind of content,verbally implying for 3 minutes that Mushroom Kingdom was the first stage was kind of obtuse and longwinded as a point and confused the shit out of me until he got to the 'punchline' It just wasn't very effective whether due to tone or writing it fell flat.
@Devilmangu7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's not the first time that's happened, in his bloodborne analysis he pretended for 20 minutes? that an invisible alien that grabbed you was a glitch, now I'm used to it but I understand everyone's first reaction to a joke like that.
@Furionic6967 жыл бұрын
I just feel that in this kind of content it can be ill fitting because I know I've done similar when trying to make a point in the past and completely lost people on what I was trying to say sometimes simple it better I guess haha, I personally think video reviews have a good room to be jokey and non-serious at times but due to the nature of the medium I think it's also wise to make those moments clear to the viewer as if it depends on a visual or audio cue they might not always be holding enough attention to see when those more subtle plays happen :)
@Area22097 жыл бұрын
I thought it was very effective because I have not played the game. All the moons he described seemed like it would be from the first tutorial level. Then he reveals it actually isn't and the whole game is that tedious, really struck me and makes me never want to play it.
@SOMEGUY78937 жыл бұрын
+Fireaxxe Well, it's made like that purposely though, it's supposed to be an endgame reward type of thing. It's not meant to be difficult. In fact one of the moons he praised was from a sub-world of that level.
@Gehab7 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video. I don't agree with 90% of what you said, but it's very interesting to see your point of view in such a well written manner.
@hej2k37 жыл бұрын
Who, or better yet, WHAT are you? I am hesitant to believe that a human being in 2018 would meet an opposing online argument with such a mild temper and open-mindedness. Take a hike robutt.
@KimiJimiJames7 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I disagree with most of the video but I learned and became able to contextualize so much more about Mario games and how they compare.
@Fispell7 жыл бұрын
You're an inspiration to humanity everywhere
@spirit_5047 жыл бұрын
what is this creature, being nice?! nAnI???!!
@Tubular_dude_20y_ago7 жыл бұрын
I agree he was pretty harsh on odyssey but it was a good video
@arkanjoteixeira6 жыл бұрын
The Korok Seed recurring joke was perfect hahah
@bathatcatflat2 жыл бұрын
We can all agree that the ost is good, right?
@StrawberryShartCak32 жыл бұрын
Some were good
@zamalamahama4894 Жыл бұрын
For sure I love wooded’s theme
@chasedubay93016 ай бұрын
It has some really good songs in there but the games use of music is so minimal a large amount of the time of the time. A lot of the game theres just no music, or is mixed so quietly you can barely even hear it.
@bloemkoolendestreetgang4506 ай бұрын
I love Odyssey but the music is just fine for 3D mario standards. A few solid tracks for sure but its not that consistent. Take mario galaxy, banger after banger after banger..
@SaucyBoyFilms7 жыл бұрын
As someone who feels the need to collect EVERYTHING in a game, having to interact with every object just to check there isn't a moon seems like it would give me an actual nervous fucking breakdown
@Maschinengoth7 жыл бұрын
You can just look at the map at any given time and see where the moons are located. Then you go to that place and in 99% there is something glowing, something to smash, a door, an npc etc....so I dont really get his complains. You just run trough the game and easily collect about 300 moons just by oh I could go there, oh I saw something lets try it" Another several hundred moons can be easily found by revisiting and seeing things that gave you a moon in another world ( special npcs, tubes etc).
@Alvaro-uy9vw7 жыл бұрын
"You can just look at the map at any given time and see where the moons are located." So the solution to bad game desing is playing an Ubisoft game.
@FLFL-Cookays7 жыл бұрын
Also you cant "just look at the map" you need to pay for the locations, which if done too much drains your money and forces you into wasting time collecting.
@quando58627 жыл бұрын
You can get most moons and purple coins from following the story, the harder to find ones just take a bit more exploring to do. Only around 30 out of 800+moons are a pain
@largenaq29357 жыл бұрын
But then he mentions how coins still aren't useful in this game. Kinda contradicts itself tbh. Idk actually, at least I remember him saying that so sorry if he didn't.
@ricardoms20727 жыл бұрын
It's good, but it's no SUPAH MARIO BROTHERS 2 BABYYYYY
@hiduck82477 жыл бұрын
ooooh
@Yanglock7 жыл бұрын
SUPA MARIO BROTHERS 2 YA BITCH
@philippkonrad38757 жыл бұрын
ITS STILL THE BEST
@samuelpilon97497 жыл бұрын
video game dunkey
@nordicrain7 жыл бұрын
Best game of the year again! still the undefeated champion baybeeee
@blastdude12347 жыл бұрын
Interesting point to count Mushroom Kingdom as the starting area when it’s one of the last kingdoms you come across in the game. Edit: Holy shit he did it on purpose.
@eleuis7 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say that was one pretty damn good setup
@blastdude12347 жыл бұрын
Haliax It went on for a bit longer than I thought so I wasn’t sure where it was going at first. But as soon as I remembered it wasn’t the first kingdom I heard “but actually”...
@MasterRoyalSnow7 жыл бұрын
My jaw dropped. What an amazing buildup moment that illustrates the titular point
@cg19067 жыл бұрын
I noticed the same thing and was kissed off, looking through the comments seeing if anyone else was mad. I was literally reading this as he revealed he did it on purpose
@Hevymin7 жыл бұрын
You obviously haven’t watched many of his videos. He pulls the ‘ol Anderson Bait ‘n Switch a good few times.
@klrowdean Жыл бұрын
I think this game hit two target demos pretty well 1. Young kids 2. Parents who don't have much time to play or energy to want to grind difficulty. Both of which kinda fit the Switch and Nintendo's vibe. There's plenty of Elden Rings maximizing complexity. Fair analysis.
@pintatatphpaobe9563 Жыл бұрын
I think you can expand that last one to far more than just parents, but yeah. There are plenty of people who grew up gaming and still love it but can't really afford the time anymore (I am one of them). The switch was in many ways designed to be a casual "urban" console with games you can just chill out with in the hour or half hour you have spare. Being able to knock out 20 minutes of a lighthearted, consistently rewarding game like Odyssey or Zelda is all a lot of people really want from gaming nowadays, and I think to some extent they were both designed around that.
@klrowdean Жыл бұрын
@@pintatatphpaobe9563 yeah, good call on my over-generalization to "parents". In my flawed view of a very narrow slice of humanity it feels like me and my fellow parents don't have time and other people do. But that's a me problem and neither fair nor accurate.
@florida_sucks Жыл бұрын
elden ring isn't complex lmfaooo
@woodrowwant6216 Жыл бұрын
Nintendo is known for targeting kids what’s with the shock?
@shay_3859 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think it's disrespectful to say that it's for young kids. Young kids are not stupid.
@ianmount85855 жыл бұрын
The problem with the “It’s for kids argument” Is that kids aren’t nearly as dumb as we act like they are. Putting moons out in the open right where you spawn isn’t really something kids like, I mean I played videogames all my life, the games geared towards kids (like pokémon for example) always felt too easy, or not right. I didn’t realize then that it was because it was geared for kids.
@bladechild24495 жыл бұрын
define kid though. 5-8 year olds aren't geared for figuring out tricky stuff. Saying Pokemon is made for kids sounds pretty dumb. No one under the age of 10 can possibly complete Pokemon without outside help. They're not gonna figure out the teleport puzzles or something like Seafoam Islands. Whereas a lot of young kids can probably complete MO
@lollipophugo5 жыл бұрын
I think that's a bit reductive tbh, kids might come up with solutions that are nonsensical to an adult. for an example, I played pokemon red when I was 10ish and I didn't know how to use flash, I couldn't figure out something so simple. But I made my way through rock tunnel in the pitch black by following the walls on the left all the way out and was surprised by every trainer on the way so couldn't prep for each fight, and I managed that which is like a self imposed much more difficult version of that tunnel (for a kid anyway). Kids are surprisingly good at working their way through difficult challenges.
@matth58855 жыл бұрын
Dan Datcoldness they are not wrong in the sense is that when u think of kids as a general market the norm is that they want quick easy simple game play. This can further be justified by the rise of mobile gaming that gives an alternative to traditional gaming and if kids get bored/frustrated they will just return to mobile games. This is the reason why some modern games such as the post gen 5 games all are so easy and lack post game content.
@eggnblood4 жыл бұрын
I think one of the main problems is that the Nintendo audience is growing up and they kind of don't know how to deal with it because they fear higher standards and less than stellar sales. So they overly simplify gameplay to try and attract any kind of kiddy: including audiences who objectively aren't supposed to be resolving the puzzles they design, such as 4 to 6yos. See how many fricking moons there are in Odyssey and how Insultingly easy Ganon was in BOTW without thr 4 minions.
@PipeGuy64Bit4 жыл бұрын
But as a kid I had no idea how to unlock Corona Mountain in Mario Sunshine. How is anyone suppose to figure out you need to clear episode 7 for all of the stages?
@setlerking5 жыл бұрын
23:07 he’s so committed to his mushroom kingdom example he edited this world selection screen to not spoil his example. That’s dedication and something I’d likely miss
@GuyFromSomeWorld4 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this is a joke or if you just haven't played this game after beating it, but Mushroom Kingdom is actually there on the Kingdom selection screen once you beat the game. Not sure why, but it is.
@Thirteen135513554 жыл бұрын
@@GuyFromSomeWorld He probably works for Nintendo or something, has never played the game.
@GuyFromSomeWorld4 жыл бұрын
@@jinmause206 I meant it would probably make more sense for it to be at the end rather than the beginning.
@simodelfario47394 жыл бұрын
It's always there on the map
@isaacd.99864 жыл бұрын
This is my guess for how many "plant a seed" moons there are in mario odyssey: Too many
@guillaumechau60823 жыл бұрын
That's absolutely correct! Congratulations! Your prize is...ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!