RuneScape 3's esports event was a disaster

[@rswillmissit]

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[@jagexneglectsalways6005]

Atleast we didnt have to stare at ps1 graphics till a few weeks ago. Rs3 graphics are on point.

[@HowToBasic]

Your videos are awesome

[@Jasonasked1233]

Dam didn't know you watch RS videos

[@rswillmissit]

Love me

[@nathanda8647]

Oh shit

[@CommentaryOMG]

Holy shit its the eggman

[@Icodhack2992]

holy shit. i didnt expect to find you here!

[@nicholaswayne1007]

As an old-school player, please know that no deadman mode tournament has gone well either. It seems these kind of events might be too much for old jamflex

[@SharpShotterJake88]

Ddos attacks don't help them, it's a shame to DMM was very fun to watch

[@mike.1390]

jugfux

[@carefulman3673]

Last one was good

[@Ptepsi]

I feel like the trophy breaking due to the cheap materials used is a perfect metaphor for how this whole thing went down.

[@Astares9]

it's a good micro representation of a macro problem facing the world

[@simpleman7516]

what is crazy is this happened in 2017....Jagex is still failing especially the recent deadman tourny of lag fest...Jagex is probably the worst company with the worst developers and planners. For an event so big and them not know how to reset the fog is just unacceptable...You would think Jagex would of improved from this but nope they are still falling short. Most incompetent employees ever I feel like Jagex is a highschool coding club full of script kiddies. "we got behind or we were delayed because we had to rewrite ____ code" Is such a common thing with this PoS company...why reinvent the wheel for real you are telling me they rewrote the entire highscore interface to do this event should be a red flag of pure incompetence and stupidity. This is what happens when you get 10 kids that don't know how to code write a script for gas and then nobody knows what the fuck anyone is doing in this company because they're all beta losers that communicate through clan chat instead of talking to each other. I can't imagine what you have to do to get a dev job there but I bet its such a shitshow they take a month to code an interface that grabs your exp and they fuck it up somehow just like they fuck up gas so many times ! This is the first of many ! look into the OSRS deadman they can't even do simple math and made the gas hit extremely hard and killed everyone in the first deadman almost instantly. Devs are again smiling on the stream like nothing happened. Not sure what is worse....the canceling and trading of pvp or the shitshow of attempted events in the last 3 years that clearly feel like a bunch of beta cucks that have to use a survey to vote in new content BUT WORKING FOR MONTHS ON IT BEFORE IT POLLED IS A GOOD IDEA? THEN IT GETTING DENIED BY A FEW PERCENTS ! Such beta cucks...throwing away months of work of a new skill for a percent loss of a dumbass poll that is flawed anyways. They are so self concious of ruining the game they are afraid to actually do anything but work on an interface update and code some halfqueer quest dialog that nobody cares about except those weirdos that cosplay and read the lore. Tar and feather the director and devs of this game or at least give them some anti anxiety meds so they can actually communicate with one another.

[@vhuyjgvyj]

@@simpleman7516 Jesus go touch some grass, it's just a game lol

[@enjoydetails3411]

putrid

[@victorford5047]

@@simpleman7516 It's just a game, gee. Get help.

[@princeofopinion2692]

Imagine working so hard, to grind to the top of the qualify leaderboard just to be instantly disqualified seconds after getting into the actual tournament.

[@azo5000]

The one thing RS3 and OSRS players can agree on is how terrible the tournaments usually end up. It's a company hallmark.

[@GdotWdot]

Three things are certain in life - death, taxes and Jagex embarassing themselves at every opportunity.

[@jacobjacob8381]

Such honesty

[@fallup3555]

At this point, it’s a miracle that jagex creates a event flawlessly. They gotta pay better to get better developers. You get what you pay for.

[@ryanmuse2431]

More specifically the Rs3 community. OSRS is bigger and better than ever. One of the most popular MMOs.

[@xXxpowerbagxXx]

@@ryanmuse2431 I ran around with 100 steven bots earlier today.

[@Hankvdb]

for such an embarassing company they sure have alot of followers who just play the game for the game. ;)

[@StretchyMCAU]

holy shit all runescape esports are actually cursed

[@snacks1755]

Runescape just isn't meant to be an esport.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Esports are cursed

[@ingydegmar2060]

They didn't reset the fog? During the grand final? Why does that ring a bell........

[@SockLove]

Shhh, no one needs to remember

[@yosefyonin6824]

@@SockLove i need to remember, what happened? where and when and how??

[@littleloner1159]

Oi don't leave us on such a cliffhanger

[@aarondoull5913]

I qualified for the finale, but because of the date it was pushed back to I couldn't participate. I was so damn excited, but I had to drive home from college on the day it got pushed back to. I was so dissapointed, but happy that I ended up getting the pet even though I couldn't participate.

[@itsgonnarain135]

One thing I've learned is that player-made tournaments are more organized than whatever tournament Jagex makes

[@Firebolt4]

I never even knew this existed. Man Jagex sure does have a poor track record of eSports events

[@Iheartdgd]

It actually sounds like a super fun game mode, I wish they would give it another honest attempt. I loved darkscape and deadman.

[@Hananniee]

these just keep getting better and better

[@notaflightreactsfan3706]

👋👋👋

[@Icodhack2992]

i had no idea this even existed

[@therunescapehistorian]

I really liked this one, slick editing & the NordVPN ad was sick haha

[@rswillmissit]

Thanks a lot! :D

[@notaflightreactsfan3706]

Love these two Legends:)

[@nikitina9855]

Okay, I'm an OSRS guy...stopped playing RS when EOC was launched, but god damnit I know I good content creator when I see one. I love watching your videos. Keep up the great work!

[@MrGrombie]

I would be down to play an alternate version of Gilenor on OSRS that had zombies everywhere and people had to band together to get places and get things done. Make it a coop OSRS experience. Would be amazing. Might being back the glory days a bit.

[@ignskeletons]

Jagex continues to embarrass themselves as a a game studio with these botched competitions and disaster finales. Even OSRS deadman tournament 2021 was plagued by DDoS attacks.

[@CabbageGod]

Idk if you think Jagex is doing a bad job then I don't think you followed the early stages of any new esport, they actually aren't doing as bad as many others haha. It takes time and money to figure out how to do an esports event right and unfortunately the only way to figure it out is to try and try.

[@RuiRuichi]

Also exposing how shitty of a game engine they have for RS3.

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Jagex embarrases themselves the same amount that RS players embarrass themselves screaming and crying about everything despite having no idea what they want whatsoever. Jagex releases a poll on combat: the player base vote that combat is boring and needs to be updated. Jagex releases EoC. The player base promptly begin to scream, cry, and throw a hissyfit (like always) and say they want the old combat back and they've always loved it.

[@haruglory2169]

I think RS3 doing leagues in the summer (several months away from the OSRS leagues) would be one of the best things for the game.

[@SharkVengVideos]

I was a top 1k player and never knew any of this about the final...missed it as I was on holiday...Thank god i did.

[@vinylknight]

OH MY GOSH MY FLASHBACK MOMENTS! I remember that special event long ago, aside that this was separating from the actual game. It felt like heavy grinding while I was unable to stay longer due to irl stuff, but my friend was part as of the finale, which was accurate what happened. I did overheard about the delays and it was quite a mess. I was excited of this event about it, but was not expecting event to be split separated from the actual game.

[@Happynotic]

I remember this. I remember competing and making it into the top 100 only to not even be counted in the top 1000.

[@andrewbooth1856]

Woke up today to a bunch of friends messaging me saying they saw me in a youtube vid. Damn. I knew I wouldn't win it, but was hella bummed that I didn't even get to play the finale for real.

[@JerkWarlord]

"We're not in the nineteen-sticks-and-stones anymore." Great line!

[@GangBlud]

More of this! Never heard of this as a OSRS player during that time. Kinda crazy that this went by unnoticed lol

[@maartenwils9178]

I play RS3 and didt really hear about it, I vaguely Remember it but didnt know it was supposed to be an esport

[@DarkbarkVids]

I was in this event I was heading to goblin village when the event started but shortly after passing the gate that leads to burthorpe i started taking damage i immediately turned around and run back to the gates, by time i got back to where the loadstone was it was game over, from what i saw everyone who left through the northgate died leaving only the south gate safe

[@orbanemanie]

i literally remember mod mohawk saying "why are all of you afk, your supposed to kill zombies, not chickens!!" while there was nothing to kill

[@jeevm491]

I Remember that too

[@AmyElnah]

I still vaguely remember when this happened, I was on a bit of a burnout from the game at the time so I just remember seeing all the backlash on the finale one day. Always love seeing a new video from you :) -That one person who called themselves Mithrilmen that you probably don't remember ;)

[@rswillmissit]

I do remember!

[@AmyElnah]

:D Sadly haven't been on that account for a few years, but moved the name over originally to another one before changing it not that long ago. Still kept the Mithril theme though :)

[@wamsly2334]

Honestly full on massacre is kinda cool. Reminds me of like sao. Sometimes you’re just unlucky and sometimes you’re lucky

[@pallettown3358]

Leave it to Jagex to screw it up, that’s why I never get my hopes up over anything they do anymore, they’ll always find a way to ruin it.

[@apophis456]

That’s a good way to never enjoy anything ever again. Terrible way to live, honestly

[@juanpelegrino1245]

Try out new world it seems promising

[@gratedradish6699]

@@apophis456 or just accept the game is shit and stop playing? he was talking about jagex not life.

[@apophis456]

@@gratedradish6699 man you must be an idiot if you believe the words you just said I like the game, so I won’t stop playing. If you go into everything expecting it to be bad, it’s going to be bad. That’s true in games as well as life. If you think the game is shit, why are you watching a video about it? If you don’t have any faith in any update anymore then why do you still play?

[@skia-morph]

@@gratedradish6699 those aren't very different things for some people

[@lawrence_lg4992]

Willmissit your editing in this was absolutely off the charts

[@rswillmissit]

Aw Lawrence!

[@lawrence_lg4992]

@@rswillmissit it doesnt go unnoticed!

[@joop1991]

6:42 How would you get 99 in every skill when you only have an hour?

[@rswillmissit]

In this game mode, everyone started out fully maxed.

[@MachineR5000]

I like how they added this, but took away Darkscape. Darkscape was so awesome, and yet they cut it. If you, like me, were fortunate enough to have a hand in darkscape and its short life, then youll have a cosmetic cape unlock in RS3 called DarksCape

[@edgarratsep3631]

Darkscape was the best thing jagex ever did in its history, hands down. But they just had to butcher it for something meaningless in rs3/osrs

[@MachineR5000]

@@edgarratsep3631 Right! So few people ever got to experience it too. It was the BEST version of Runescapes PVP and felt like a completely new and different game, all while maintaining everything we love about runescape still. They could have worked on it, tweaked its systems, but noooooooo

[@seriousspikesam7770]

Reminds me of Kickabout League tournament with the qualifier match set at 3 am... despite Jagex "teaming up people from the similar timezones." Needless to say, I never played that match and was disqualified from the tournament.

[@xMaugrex]

To be fair, it's pretty fitting to have the miasma already at max for the finale.

[@erefront]

I love how jagex has been making an effort to rebrand RS3 as RuneScape for years now but we just refuse to obey.

[@unrealmagic6519]

Rebrand? It's always been the official Runescape. Just like it's Runescape on Reddit not Runescape 3. Who is "we"? You mean all the toxic salty osrs players?

[@erefront]

Thanks for the question. By "we" I mean the entire community of players of both games, former players and people who never played but watch vids. Also, not that it matters but I play rs3 and not osrs.

[@unrealmagic6519]

@@erefront 2012 era with pvp worlds was the best pre eoc timeline imo. Oldschool RS nowadays is far from Oldschool lol

[@johnguylw]

@@unrealmagic6519 the hell you talking about all of the rs3 content creators call it rs3 lmao

[@reidbennington8063]

Lol, I had no idea of this but I was cracking up when I figured out what happened regarding the miasma just insta killing like 1/4 the ammount of people

[@DrDoinks]

Mod Jed just chilling in the beginning, waiting to get back in to the office to dupe more T bows

[@Gaming4Justice]

Aww you didn't mention my character Dragon Medal. I died about 15 minutes before the gates opened, I believe I was the first to die.

[@MishaCatz]

How are you able to get some of these shots? Do you record every event screen in advance for future videos or you're finding everything publically online? Great video btw.

[@rswillmissit]

Yes, everything is publicly online. :-)

[@FlawedFilm]

I liked the survival Override you got for this even and I had fun participating in it, I wish it did better.

[@thorakvideos2495]

Was this the same thing as the Dark Runescape mode? I don't even remember this thing happening...

[@chesney1995]

Darkscape was different. That was RS3 with PvP enabled everywhere.

[@STEPHENDANERD]

It's interesting to look back at a time period where rs3 was still being actively worked on and had a player count competitive to osrs. While nowadays, osrs with the near fortnightly content and rs3... basically on tickover, some mindless grind events to keep players occupied and basically no real content of value in sight.

[@MrSimpsondennis]

Dimension of the Damned was damned to failure from the beginning.

[@TheSavageRobot]

you are one of the most talented editors

[@longview3k69]

Menaphos is considered one of the worst updates? Idk, it looked interesting at the time but I never thought it was the worst

[@rswillmissit]

Yeah, I agree. I liked Menaphos a lot :/

[@jatkinson85]

@@rswillmissit my bet that's compers bitching they had to grind it out. "Give us more content to do...NOT THAT MUCH CONTENT!"

[@caddph]

Since playing leagues in OSRS, I've been wanting a RS3 leagues variant so badly. Not only does Runescape support seasonal gameplay (as many players come and go throughout the year), but players love watching "from scratch" series (just look at TheRSGuy's from scratch challenges). Really hoping for that type of content to come to RS3 at some point. In the meantime, I break from RS3 to do Leagues because it's just a lot of fun.

[@mynamebashbarti]

I remember I really wanted to try out the mode but didn’t know wtf was happening, feels like a fever dream now.

[@champkmaq7510]

This is so interesting. I just returned to rs3 since writing in 2012 and never heard about this.

[@rswillmissit]

Welcome back!

[@soulsreaper7145]

i wish they would try again though, being able to go ham on esports is amazing

[@zacthesecretweapon9931]

I would love to see a league on runescape 3 (like trailblazer league from oldschool)

[@learn2bk]

I really want the armor but it's locked

[@feldwik]

even tho it was a complete disaster, it stills fills me with emotion when I look at something like this video and think to myself "I was there". I remember being completely disappointed cuz I planned a lot for the finals, I was still at school and I had to skip class that day to be able to play, and then I died to literally nothing lol just like a lot of ppl died at the gates before the thing even started... but that damned event still holds a special spot in my heart

[@Drachenadler]

I feel your pain, died to the miasma while heading towards Tavelry. I had to juggle shifts with some coworkers in order to participate, only to die literally seconds after it started. I'm more disappointed that they haven't tried anything like that since than the huge flop that was that tournament.

[@kippascrew]

Still got the shauny pet but yes i know the feeling

[@feldwik]

@@kippascrew I got him too. I don't remember what place I ended on but I died a bit after the random mass spawn that is shown in the video. I managed to kill some zombies and then some invisible ones started appearing as far as I remember. Ppl around me died the same way, no miasma no nothing, just random hits. I remember I was at the cabbage field when I died

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Just goes to show you shouldn't put your real life off to play a game 🙄

[@FirestormDDash]

Hey i remember playing this event. it was neat for the base level idea. Got the outfit and the RIP axe. tho they dont look nice :c

[@canucksfan24rs]

I remember playing DotD, people mostly camped an area killing a huge zombie.

[@mrbonjangle]

I liked the dimensions questline. I miss there was more, but I feel like this killed it

[@SomniaCE]

You could have paid me a six figure salary, given me a year to plan and I wouldn't have been able to intentionally fuck up an event as hard as this one was by accident. I actually have no idea how a team fucks up this bad

[@EzleRS]

This had sooo much potential, Sad day.

[@Big_Human]

I like that lifetime membership prize. They should find ways to give that out to one player a year

[@gamewithadam7235]

Video won't load. :(

[@DeTagg100]

Yeah... the competition was such a buzzkill, being one of the qualifiers i was so let down to be instakilled by a stack of miasma instantaneously. I think they should have tried to run it back or at least try again instead of having it a pvm survival gamemode.

[@rswillmissit]

I can't imagine how frustrating that must've been at the time. All that work, hype and waiting... Only to die straight away.

[@skimrizzle9598]

get good osrs gang made this post

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@skimrizzle9598 1. It's spelled "git gud". 2. How does it feel to know you'll never breed or know love but that you get to play a game mode that's infested with bots.

[@skimrizzle9598]

@@A_Black_Sheep94 i literally just made big diarrhea on your comment LMAO

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

@@skimrizzle9598 Jokes on you, I ate it looking you dead in your eye. *unzips pants.

[@seb1554]

Lmao can just imagine the Jagex staff shouting ‘’cut the stream!!’’ Then wiping their hard drives and moving offices

[@cashkerr99]

Always good to see you upload my friend ❤ makes me feel like a kid again coming home after school to watch your videos

[@goldman77700]

Wow I never knew about this. This was far worst than I thought it would be lol. Worth the watch. GG Jagex.

[@reino7887]

disaster having disaster inside the disaster is always nice to see. I love it when disaster have disasters 👍🏼

[@jadinkosmma5459]

Your discord link isn't working for some reason

[@rswillmissit]

Hmm, I checked it and it seems to be working for me...

[@JRBanana]

Love the effort you make for each video :)

[@rswillmissit]

Only the best for you!

[@makaveliarts]

Wow this event honestly looks like it'd be really fun.

[@InfernalAdze]

You show me this and I can only vaguely remember that gamemode/tournament/whatever. Don't think I even bothered with it.

[@rswillmissit]

Yeah, same. A viewer requested this video a few weeks ago. Until then, I had completely forgot about this :P

[@rekkitrustic2491]

Man i will always remember this event...it was for me my favorite update, despite the terrible QA but im happy to have survived the dodgy mechanics, though man I wished I squeezed up to 5th...sadly rng was the deciding factor as i got adamant gear while the top others had rune, but regardless im proud of my rank!

[@raymondsykes2954]

Each one of these has been an issue, especially this last tourney. Jagex should really figure this stuff out

[@wertyline806]

I thought this was going to be about darkscape, I had never heard of this event.

[@MichaelChiklisCares]

Make a video about Anachronia Island , that Jagex took Sons of Anarchy characters and named the Zygomites by them, FX Network characters mostly.

[@bommisenbromark3708]

And here i am, hoping they instead make something big and permanent. Imagine if they made a clan quest to complete, and use ideas from kingdom of miscellenia (which in my opinion is the most boring way of making you "king") and do something big, needing to defend the clan fortress, hiring workers to get resources for everyone in the clan, needing players to actually manage workers that might get lazy, demoralized or go on strike. Something you can REALLY invest your time into that isn't maxing your exp/bank.

[@Pensrule7]

I was in the final and instantly died to the fog south of falador lol

[@kirkendauhl6990]

I know everyone has their own ideas for how to smooth these esports events out and I’m one of them My only idea that’d benefit the players and mods the most would be to hire/borrow experienced esports developers from other studios like respawn/infinity ward/bungee. The games they develop may have their problems but if Jagex can’t reset the test server even after delaying a stream for half an hour then I think anyone who has past experience in competitive gaming can be a lot of help

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Why would another studio let a competitor use one of their staff lol

[@Equitine]

2:53 seems like every MMO ever.

[@brandonlevy7553]

Man I was there for the event it was crazy there was only a few people left when i was there and then a big guy spawned and killed me instant.. really unfair I believe i could've went alot longer

[@giga9955]

Awesome video! Only downside is how many times we have to hear you say ‘Finale’

[@rswillmissit]

26 times lol

[@karthis5911]

I had no clue this was a Esports thing. I seen the spam for it in my email back then but was not playing RS at the time.

[@FraggnAUT]

How is it possible to mismanage an event like that and also have a successful company running?

[@A_Black_Sheep94]

Because 99% of people didn't give a shit about the event.

[@ddevulders]

I feel RS has quite a classical problem in the game development landscape, it seems that new content being put into production follows a cycle of creative and technical work which is very solid. The visual designs of new areas and bosses for example are beautiful and the core interactions work pretty great as well (pathing, object collision and interfaces) and you can clearly see the technical expertise of the mods presenting to the community. However what most developers find difficult is to polish the experience beyond the scope of the implementation so this is where QA comes in. I have a really strong feeling most issues are either created by the engine limitations and scaling thereof (actually putting hundreds of player in the same render distance for example) as well as an incremental cycle of QA feedback. I can imagine, since the main focus seems to be carried by highly technical staff, the QA and Dev teams are running into a problem of output validation. This means that, over time, the QA team has adapted to certain process requirements initially set by the Dev team when it comes to ticketing to communicate bugs or extension/polishing of features in an incremental and probably Agile way which has 2 fundamental flaws: 1. If you QA the implementation on a per-ticket basis incrementally over multiple releases you might miss newly introduced interactions with said implementation as the acceptance criteria don't account for them. 2. Incrementally evaluating tickets delivered might introduce behavior which has previously been accepted to fail the acceptance criteria which will go unnoticed. This is why I personally feel the core of new releases is pretty solid while sometimes obvious issues are missed after an update is launched, for example: during the Croesus release the main mechanics worked quite good and the boss fight itself was pretty stable even for public lobbies (scale). But for some reason the broadcasting of unique drops slipped through the cracks while I can't imagine that this wasn't included in the default process briefing of creating a new boss or that everyone in the QA team missed this (unless this is an active choice to counter the estimation of drop rates for the new GW3 bosses based on adventurers logs since, for some reason, they remain quite secretive about). This leads to another process oversight: testing scale and over-time interactions, in order for a QA professional to detect the issue with drops not getting announced one must actually receive a drop during testing. Which might be cost inefficient assuming they don't have the ability to manipulate the drop chances from a console. What I think Jagex does really good however is that they don't tend to be hyper reactive to issues found once they are put into production unless they are game breaking, which means the updates and patches rarely feel clunky or hasty which might lead to a lot of other issues down the road, especially when the community feels like they're running around like headless chickens.

[@OT_Dan]

I was there and forgot this existed! Blimey...great vid as always Will

[@caelumcadere6356]

The amount of incompetence surrounding this event is staggering

[@LastWordSword]

Even the ad is terrific, lol!

[@NarutoArenaCx]

If I didn't get hacked and lost over 400m I'd still play today, I kind of miss playing Runescape.

[@xLightxning]

ahhh good times :') i remember Rainy and i went to the Jolly Boar inn and the examine on the stairs was like "its not safe to go up because of the zombie hoards" and we were like ahh yes of course, zombies are able to get upstairs but not fall back down them? and with impeccable timing one of those big boy zombies then spawned right beside us xD

[@chesterpanda]

Wow, I’ve never heard of this ESport event

[@useless8217]

looking for jagex to add skill for skillers level 1 bladed dive called bladed hop and mini surge

[@DarkRequiemFilms]

For future reference, in 2017 it was just RuneScape. Jagex had removed the 3 from the game and all sites and socials in March of 2014. Rookie mistake I forgive you.

[@rswillmissit]

Oh yeah, 100%. Unfortunately, people mix Oldschool and RS when just saying "RuneScape". It's mainly there to specify the difference :P

[@avionprime8757]

7:05 finaly face reveal?

[@nahCmeR]

I bet the number 1 player must have lost his mind dying that way... I would be livid

[@samasaur6068]

I had no idea this even happened

[@AltijdAlex]

Turns out "the damned" wasn't about the zombies

[@Heeroneko]

One thing I've consistently noted as an outsider just starting to get into OSRS...is that the company sure does like to lie to ppl about stuff and show their egos.

[@link665]

The event was a mess but I was still happy to finish top 50 I wish they made a new reward for top 50 since they just gave Shaun to everyone

[@alfiebrepotra3501]

Great vid, thanks for keeping us informed

[@tudorrsps]

This ad was something else.. LOL

[@kalef1234]

Dang I never even knew about this. Would've been fun if it worked haha