RTX 4070 SUPER vs RTX 3090 - Test in 10 Games

[@TestingGames]

Games : Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 0:06 Resident Evil 4 - 1:02 CYBERPUNK 2077 - 2:03 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077 Starfield - 3:11 Forza Horizon 5 - 4:13 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5 Hogwarts Legacy - 5:21 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy Red Dead Redemption 2 - 6:29 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesRDR2 Alan Wake 2 - 7:24 Microsoft Flight Simulator - 8:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20 The Witcher 3 - 9:20 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher System: Windows 11 Core i9-13900K - bit.ly/3SgY3xf ASUS ROG Strix Z790-E Gaming - bit.ly/3scEZpc G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU CPU Cooler - Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 - bit.ly/3Pn2xVx GeForce RTX 4070 SUPER 12GB - bit.ly/3S59r1n GeForce RTX 3090 24GB - bit.ly/3kNDiZM SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI

[@Tom-zw9jr]

Please try Max Payne 3 multiplayer, it's so fun and still played

[@mRsnow-aku]

Is dlss3 on?

[@AbbasAkhtar1]

What afterburner setting to do to get that display?

[@justsayno1734]

It's crazy how "bad" the 3090 now is for being the best gaming GPU 2 years ago... 4070 Super is a mid range card and definitly the better choice for 1440p gaming now. The difference in power consumption is crazy.

[@Zygmunator]

Yes but it falls apart in 4k. 4070 ti super won´t.

[@Th3_Dark_Side]

@@Zygmunator Nobody cares about 4k. 4070S is meant for 1440p not for 4k. And most people are still on 1080p anyway.

[@Zygmunator]

@@Th3_Dark_Side I have a rtx 3090 and use it with a LG C3 @ 4k. Love it. Chineese internet cafes use 1080p. Most should go 1440p with a rtx 4070 super / rx 7800xt or 7900 xt.

[@Th3_Dark_Side]

@@Zygmunator Competitive players still use 1080p for example, because they can get the most fps out of it. Also most people are using a monitor for pc gaming and not a TV. And for a monitor 4k is a bad choice. 1440p is the best compromise between image quality and fps.

[@Zygmunator]

@@Th3_Dark_Side Yes and a large 4k oled tv/monitor is better for immersion. AAA games are superior that way. For example I love the resident evil games. Much better experience.

[@StrataVision]

3090 better heating during winter 🙂

[@jron7682]

The difference in temperature is between 1 to 5 °C

[@ricarmig]

@@jron7682 of the chip itself due to more powerful cooling, but the generated heat and pulled out with that cooling (that also generates more heat), goes to the environment. It’s a decent heater…

[@ilovebanana177]

@@jron7682 depends on the cooling of the card, most 3090 gpus have massive heatsink so it the temps will be the same or cooler than a smaller 4070 super gpus with smaller heatsink

[@wojstube9359]

@@jron7682 345W vs 220W. It's not about temperature, but amount of heating power :)

[@tyre1337]

daily reminder than the 3090 was only 10% faster than a 3080 but cost double

[@alix5atasi]

it was almost the same performance as the 3080 ti, basically a 3080 ti with twice the vram

[@maiwandhimmat4808]

No way that's crazy lol

[@M1szS]

Yeah and it has 14GB more VRAM, which means it won't ever be bottlenecked by it, unlike 3080 which already is

[@_trofik_]

200 W vs 350 W 😂

[@xgas.hurried9894]

@Drejuno DLSS and FG turned on.

[@jaszfalusipeter3991]

@@xgas.hurried9894 That's right, but this is an advanced feature in RTX 4070 Super

[@wingsoficarus1139]

4070 is a beast. uses less than 200 watts in most cases, and can still run Cyberpunk maxxed out with ray tracing ultra at 100FPS at 1440p.

[@gurkal89]

So 10 hours gaming cost about 0.20 euro more with a 3090. No big deal at all.

[@igm1571]

You pay for that huge performance, power consumption is no big deal.

[@laszlozsurka8991]

A 3090 for $600 and half the power draw... 4070S is an obvious winner.

[@mariors1608]

ye and u will run out of vram xd

[@Germ5]

nah@@mariors1608

[@ricarmig]

@@mariors1608 hahaha you’re funny.

[@mariors1608]

@@ricarmig as u want, 12GB is garbo at 4K

[@JazKicks]

@@ricarmig ? He's seriouis. rtx 3090 will outlive rtx 4070 ti super. Iuse my rtx 3090 for redering, andcontentcreation

[@shadowlemon69]

If you want better ray tracing performance, more features, have $600 (or more), better power efficiency and don't care about that 12GB VRAM, go for RTX 4070 SUPER. If you want to save $100, 16GB of VRAM, don't care about worse power efficiency and ray tracing performance (a bit slower also on raster), go for RX 7800 XT. But, if you have $700 (or more), more raster performance (and RT sometimes) and want more VRAM, then go for RX 7900 XT.

[@HanmaHeiro]

Convoluted - defined 😅

[@ajxx9987]

Nobody cares about ray tracing, let's be honest

[@Birdman._.]

Better than both of em 4070 super and 7800xt Rx 6800 non xt at 330$

[@HanmaHeiro]

@@ajxx9987 Best not to be hyperbolic. There's people who care about it. Some cuz they like the look, others because they hope for the future, and others for their own reason. They are just no where near the majority

[@torradasuprema395]

​@@ajxx9987 yeah, it barely has any significant visual impact in most games while killing 30-40% performance of a nvidia gpu and 50%+ on amd. It is worthy in games like cyberpunk if you can afford it but playing without it is already pretty good

[@jumpman1213]

It highlights just how big of a leap from Samsung 8nm aka custom 10nm to TSMC 5nm was

[@husen9941]

Less power but more fps wow the jump is huge from last generation

[@AncientMagicien]

4070 Super is a monster that should be 16GB. But 12GB is OK for the next years, maybe even next console generation.

[@gamersmudngrubshow6119]

The same in terms of rendering then according to this video. 3090: you buy it for the VRAM heavy applications and you can even very easily import DLSS 3 Frame Gen/FSR 3 into the latest AAA titles. 4070 S: You would buy for the price point and lower power usage.

[@ricarmig]

3090: heavy duty for professional 3D apps 4070S: gaming

[@CurseEnforcer]

​@@ricarmignot really no, 12 gb of vram wont be enough in near future for gaming especially for 1440p

[@ilovebanana177]

not really tho, in blender the rtx 4070 super have higher score than the 3090

[@gamersmudngrubshow6119]

If it does, then that might be an architectural advantage.@@ilovebanana177

[@ChienNguyen-nx4yw]

@@CurseEnforcer mostly due to bad game optimization, you won't have a game that actually uses more than 16gb of vram at 4k if the ps5 or xbox because they basically have 16 gb of vram and actually have to cut 2 - 3 gb for shared cpu. How to use the hardware depends on the console because most games will be made on it first and then ported to PC

[@TheCroppie]

The power wattage alone, clear and obvious choice between these 2

[@jake9854]

yep 3090 for sure!

[@TheCroppie]

@@jake9854 no idea what u are on but i want double!!

[@yasserqbyt2697]

@@jake9854definitely 🗿

[@Birdman._.]

​@@TheCroppie3090 sli

[@realonsi2108]

@@jake9854 *4070s

[@YKordova]

Can we have a 7800x3d and 4070Super testing in multiple resultions?

[@daniil3815]

Why? Isn’t it already somewhere? Anyway, gpu is bottleneck in most games, so changing cpu will not make it better or worse

[@M00_be-r]

@@daniil3815 it will make it a lot better the 7800X3D pushes more frames out then the 13900k

[@daniil3815]

@@M00_be-r it will be the case only where CPU bottleneck present, but for 4070 super it is not the case, 7600 or 13600k will be absolutely enough to use GPU at 100%. 7800x3D is good for 4080/4090 level of performance, or if you play at 1080p 360hz.

[@ЕвгенийАрамонов]

​@@daniil3815нет это не так, минимумы будут лучше на 7800х3d

[@Lottergeist-Beetlejuice]

The only thing that speaks for the 3090 is the large video memory with 24 GB, the rest of the card can only be viewed negatively. I could have gotten a 3090 for 600 euros, but I still decided on the 4070 Super for 629 euros. The card has more power and consumes an average of 140 watts less than the 3090.

[@AGENTEN-ry6lr]

4070super is an ABSOLUTE BEAST of a gpu, probably one of the absolute best 1440p gpus out there. amazing gpu, i dont know anyone that bought it and wasn't happy with it. thinking about buying it? go for it.

[@sixx2683]

Gonna get it. 3090 power for a mid-high range gpu? Worth it

[@lclery9184]

Just bought mine

[@sixx2683]

@@lclery9184 same. 2 days ago

[@ajxx9987]

I'm simply gonna wait until the next series drop, I'm still happy with my 3000 series GPU

[@robertopazsoldan9641]

Dont wanna say your gpu model?😅lol

[@verxful-]

@@robertopazsoldan9641 3080 10gb EVGA (RIP) xc3 going wild

[@Lukas-lp2fz]

cope. You have to update EVERY generation. And also update between regular and super editions. Otherwise you will be ostracized from the gaming community

[@0xBULLgogi]

Are you telling us this or yourself this?

[@mobarakjama5570]

@@Lukas-lp2fzin what universe?

[@reviewforthetube6485]

And here peoppe are saying oh 4070 super should have been what the 4070 was. Yall just cant be happy they did s ton for us here. Whats even crazier is if you turn on dlss 3 and frame generation on the 4070 super then dlss2 on the 3090 it beats the 3090 by over 30fps in most games. Its insane. Then with ray tracing its even crazier. I laugh at the abuse at launch before people actually understood what nvidia did here. These 40 seriees are special cards with performance. These cards have such an uplift from any other generation when you account for everytbing its absolutely insane.

[@pravnav]

So why can't you just turn on fsr 3 frame gen on the 3090 as well?

[@reviewforthetube6485]

​@pravnav because it has horrible ghosting, trailing and is horrible with effects.

[@pravnav]

@@reviewforthetube6485 you are objectively wrong go watch digital foundry’s video on it

[@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh]

Oh noice, congratulations to make 500,000 subscribers😊😁

[@N.K.---]

Hardly any difference but 3090 have 2x vram so that's a big plus point but uses about 100 to 150 more watts power

[@emilie1058]

Sadly if the vram of the 4070 is not enought anymore the power to play new games at decent fps is already gone

[@selohcin]

@@emilie1058 Nonsense. 12GB is more than enough for both 1080p and 1440p gaming. It won't be enough for 4K in the future, but neither of these cards are really powerful enough for 4K anyway.

[@MaTtRoSiTy]

Was just going to say this. None of these games used the full 12GB here at 1440p and the 4070 cards make fantastic 1440p cards. I have a 4090 for my main PC and had a 4070 Ti briefly for another project (sold it since) and I was very impressed at the performance on that thing and the VRAM was not at all a limiting factor. @@selohcin

[@N.K.---]

@@selohcin true but considering how poorly optimized new games are which eat up a lot of vram 4070 can sometimes struggle at 1440p as well but you can just lower the settings a little bit tho

[@shebeski]

Most all games get patched. Bad VRAM usage isn't common currently. Unreal 5 is also extremely light on VRAM. ​@@N.K.---

[@pauloceres]

And 4k?

[@Definedd]

would be a 3090 win most of the time at 4k, the 4070 super doesnt have enough VRAM

[@dacymark1688]

the 3090 would definitely win due to the larger bandwidth

[@Arracheur2Khnouna]

@@Definedd go check its only like 4 fps of difference between the 2 gpu

[@Arracheur2Khnouna]

@@dacymark1688 a bit better i have checked the benchmarks between the 2 and its like 4fps more thieve an 3090 its not a big difference in game aint gonnna feel it new gpu are a real revolution the half of vram and add the same fps in 4k and 1440p ^^ its insane

[@нетку]

​@@Defineddв 4k так же побеждает 4070, 4060ti 16gb=4060ti 8gb

[@maximustitan8171]

220w vs 350w Thats the differents.

[@steppi27]

I did a UV on my used 3090 FE and never reach 300W and reach more MHz than this video shows. Mostly I'm between 200-250W in 2k gaming with it. (3 Displays connected with different refresh rates).

[@DaBrown101]

​@@steppi27what is a UV? And how did you do it? Is there a video on this?

[@omaralmodather914]

​@@DaBrown101UV means Undervolt and you can do it pretty easy just search for a video for your card and its model on youtube

[@steppi27]

@@DaBrown101 UV = Undervolting. I used MSI After Burner (not limited to MSI as manufracturer) to undervolt the 3090 (FE). There should be tons of descriptions and videos how to handle it, that describe it better than I could. Mostly you set a little OC on Core first and than go into a Curve Optimizer. You get a chart with voltage per MHz and set your MHz on specific voltage. You go near the max MHz you want to reach or your gpu is able to hold in stable conditions without throttleing and then try to reduce/ cut off the voltage to a stable minimum. Thats in short. It all depends on cooling, power supply and the grade of the mounted Die. In Standard my 3090 was at 1,2V and reached 1895Mhz in throttleing. Now its 0,955V with 1925Mhz. All values out of memories and not proof it again.

[@DaBrown101]

@@steppi27 aahhhhh yes yes, I have done that already, I thought maybe there was another trick or something else and didn't know that UV stood for UnderVolting haha. I have the 3070ti and stock it's at 1.25v and I brought it down to 0.818v but also lower clocks. BUT it performs way better than an actual overclock! I've been meaning to have someone test this out with another card to see if my "theory" is correct!

[@TalonsTech]

This has made all old, power hungry, no warranty, crypto mine abused RTX 3090s worth at most $400 on the used market. Paying a dime over that is foolish. RTX 4070 Super is a banger. Brand new with warranty, Nvidia frame gen, and half the power consumption.

[@saroly16]

I bought it for 500 usd in 2022 (right after the big crypto crash). That was a deal.

[@TalonsTech]

@@saroly16 3090 is still a banger for sure. Even more so now that vram is going up.

[@orlando7541]

Hi what program do you use to see those stats?

[@krizalidriot8354]

Are you talking about the benchmark? CPU usage, GPU usage, FPS etc?

[@ReechuMouse]

MSI Afterburner

[@RobloxianX]

Titan RTX = 3070 with less VRAM. 3090 = 4070 with less vram. The cycle will continue. The 5070 is likely going to be the same speed as a 4090, with just half the VRAM as the 5090. A 16GB 4090 for $600. That'll get people buying Nvidia.

[@alireza12sm]

How long should i stay for 5070?

[@RobloxianX]

@@alireza12sm We wont see the 5070 until January

[@hamzakhalil-gs7oc]

Dayum I remember nividia launching the rtx 2060 again that had 12gb vram, a relaunch of 4090 with 16gb vram after 5000 series will be really good. But kinda doesn't make sense why nividia will do that again cause of the hate they received for relaunching the 2060

[@mminde3616]

Any comparisons between 4070 Super and 4070 Ti super?

[@maorr2870]

Not necessary. Comparing between 4070 Super and 3090 Ti is more interesting

[@andreamaral9725]

It's awful $200 more for not even 10% more performance on most games, they're both 1440p cards and can both run comfortably at the highest settings at 1440p, but one is $800 and one is $600

[@salarmosavi9189]

Nvidia has made great progress in terms of power draw reduction. 4070W can also be further undervolted and still maintain the same performance !

[@lycherasbry]

Not like they improved anything😂. All they did was switch to TSMC

[@salarmosavi9189]

@@lycherasbry indeed, may not seems much but most end users/buyers don't care about that as to which company's nods/Die size were used to make this silicon. All they care about is a mid-range card of current generation equals the flagship of previous generation with 50% less power draw. To ordinary buyers that's a big gen to gen progress.

[@onlyms4693]

TSMC Power lol, hope they keep it for the next generation.. Its crazy how tsmc has become so much pricey and amd really lucky to have partners with them from a long time ago lol

[@rinalarnando]

It's good video, what software/hardware you use to record them ?

[@AP77432]

3090 max worth 500 euro as used :) So much watts usage and much higher electric bills. Ppls must be stupid buying used 3090 without warranty for same price 700-800 euro instead 4070 s :D 3090 have only one advantage more memory...

[@aylartar]

Who the hell takes care of electric bills 😲

[@AP77432]

@@aylartar lol, I pay my bills myself... And i can tell a lot difference. If u gaming constantly, your electric bills would be noticeably higher... Like +10-15 euro more every month and then calculate how you will burn in year, its like 120+ euro more. Thats why 3090 must be cheaper compared to 4070

[@aylartar]

@@AP77432 ок in my city 1 kw*h is priced like 0.06 eur so i don'think it affects too much but maybe price depends on exact country/location so it differs :)

[@gurkal89]

It's not stupid. Buying a RTX xx70 card is usually not smart as they won't manage to handle future games for a long time. VRAM will limit it sooner compared to a 3090 which is able to handle more complex games.

[@Jeremy-ff7gv]

I got a 4070 super...its the absolute best bang for ur buck.

[@maorr2870]

Do you think it would be able to run GTA VI at maximum settings in 1440p with at least 60fps?

[@haiderkhan6486]

​@@maorr2870 It should have no problems!

[@katarzynabystron4737]

@@maorr2870 don't count on it, 1080p may require a bit more power than the 4070S offers, but if you don't care about RT, I think 60FPS is within reach

[@andreamaral9725]

​​@@maorr2870100% no doubt about it, don't know what the other guy is on, 1440p can run highest graphics and ray tracing on countless games with a 4070 super, gta 6 will probably not even be that intensive.

[@gurkal89]

​@@maorr2870no, quite likely to have not enough VRAM in near future.

[@Krenisphia]

I wonder if the next gen 5070 can get close to the 4090. Keep in mind there is a much bigger gap between the 4070 and 4090 (around +70-80%) than there was with the 3070 and 3090 (+30-40%). It's definitely possible, but it will be a long shot IMO.

[@w9s992]

the gap is going to be the same as 2000 series and 3000 series difference

[@onlyms4693]

I belive by red gaming tech news that nvidia 5000 series mostly gonna have a real meanigfull performance uplift for their ray tracing or ai thing because of the improvment of their tensor core and optical flow core but for the traditionald render using cuda core gonna be littel different and just with better clock and lower wattage i hope

[@w9s992]

id cry@@7eave1

[@frazzy3893]

Close to 4080

[@freddyespinoza5115]

RTX 5080 its going to get close or equal to the 4090. Maybe the 5070 = 4080?

[@swasho2939]

in my 15 years of PC gaming the 4070 Super was the only graphics card i didnt feel like i got ripped off after. best pc part purchase followed by my 7800x3d

[@X_irtz]

Really? What about 1080 Ti?

[@pikka.1]

Nvidia: 4070S is faster than the 3090Ti!!1!1!1!1 Testing games: “imma end this mans whole career.”

[@Blacktrous]

4070Ti is faster than 3090Ti

[@Gamer-q7v]

​@@Blacktrous Not in all games. The 3090 Ti seems to perform slightly better than the 4070 Ti at 4K in most rasterized games. The 4070 Ti will probably outperform the 3090 Ti in most ray traced games due to the more enhanced 3rd Gen RT Cores. The 4070 Ti should have been the 4070. The specs of the 4070 Ti seem low for a 70 Ti GPU.

[@sinenomine4540]

+1-2 FPS is NOT faster but pretty much identical.@@Blacktrous

[@Blacktrous]

@@Gamer-q7v 4070Ti and 3090Ti are both too weak for 4K anyways, at 1440p, the 4070Ti is on pair if not better than the old 2000€ 3090Ti. 4070Ti is still almost twice as powerfull compare to the 3070Ti, not that bad, just too overprice.

[@Chuck15]

Using fake frame: nvidia 🤑

[@cegovisionario871]

I just got the RTX 4070 Super this month, and I'm loving this video! But it's also a little sad to think that next year, the next-gen GPUs will be here, making my new toy feel a bit outdated already.

[@daviddl3926]

Look at it this way: Newer, more advanced products WILL arrive and WILL outperform what you currently have. If you worry about being left behind then you'll never enjoy what you have. Both the 3090 and 4070 Super are absolute beasts and will last for at least another decade.

[@cegovisionario871]

@daviddl3926 Yeah, it's like getting the latest and greatest smartphone.

[@DuDuGuitaRj]

Some games Rebar not activated in rtx 3000 series. Like Forza Horizon.

[@Cappuccinoitself]

How is the clock speed so much higher on the 4070? Is it just how it's made or there's something wrong with this 3090?

[@pwnomega4562]

Man 4070 super indeed seems to be the price to performance sweet spot of this generation but i just still can't justify the piece because i still see this card go for like 700 dollars which is 80 tier priceing not too long ago... Considering how mindlessly loyal people are to Nvidia, Nvidia will see this card selling like hot cakes and the jack the price of 70 tier cards up again in the next gen... I know they'll do it again because im willing to bet they believe they've gotten away with it. Guess i'll stick to older gen 2nd hand if things dont change and keep going the way they are.

[@Miiiiiiighty]

It will be interesting to see how that comparison holds up once 12 GB VRAM begins to be a thing, which will imo be soon for 1440+ high settings considering how awfully optimized the latest AAA are... Not to mention with the next gen games/consoles with 16GB being default.

[@thegreatslayer3105]

I am just about to buy rtx 4070 super, very excited 🤩

[@The_Honored_One_69]

Did you buy it?

[@weiwu2113]

4070 super is definitely best value !! For performance wise and less power consumption can’t wait till to build a computer with a 4070 super for my nephew lol I’m currently running 4090

[@faridcnnxjdhs4174]

I think ill buy the 4070s, but the 3090 double vram is very tempting.

[@phill5917]

Unless you game in 4K then go with the 3090. But 1440p? go with the 4070S. You won't regret it.

[@yungdaggerdikkk]

@@phill59174 a.i. aswell, 3090, raw perf and gaming 4070 imo x)

[@8Paul7]

I got 3080Ti for 600 bucks (second hand of course) 15 months ago....kinda funny that brand new 4070S with the same exact performance also costs 600. Kinda stupid to buy new GPUs when second hand market is full of much cheaper 30 gen cards. But then again, the much lower consumption is very impressive, that I gotta admit.

[@Definedd]

yeah but 30 gen cards also lack vram which isnt future proof really

[@8Paul7]

@@Definedd 12GB will last without any issues for the rest of the generation, at least 4 more years. Cards will be old perf-wise sooner than they run out of VRAM.

[@Definedd]

@@8Paul7 there are plenty of games that regularly exceed or max out 12gb at 1440p, it really isnt future proof. considering just a few years ago everyone said 6gb, 8gb was enough. within a year or two 8gb wont be feasible for even 1080p with how games release now

[@8Paul7]

@@Definedd I play most new AAA games and have yet to run into any VRAM issue. Especially nowadays with DLDSR and DLSS I am not worried. Even TLOU got quickly patched up and runs fine on 8GB cards now.

[@King-Probo]

look at Watt for FPS differenz~120 watts

[@steppi27]

Did a UV on my used 3090 (bought for 500€ mid last year) and never go above 300W with more MHz in peak (compared to this video). Mostly its between 200-250W in 2k Gaming. Newly Triple-A with 250-300W. (without Fps Limit)

[@MoltenPie]

I got a 4070 super and undervolted it too. 140w in furmark and 180w in cyberpunk dlc with pathtracing. same peak boost frequency as without uv (2670 in my case)

[@Ashfaq7273]

NVIDIA manufacturer's creatin' copies of same GPUs for multiple times under different names😂

[@JoeGamer500]

So is AMD. Somehow the next gen mid range will beat last gen flagship, and so on and so on.

[@Zoddnosferatueurope]

I swear I'm sure that's what they do

[@KerimKe856]

I have a 4060 8gb. If I were to buy a new graphics card, should I buy a 3090 or a 4070 super? I would like to add this information. My uncle will buy a 4090 for his own computer and will give me the 3090. Should I take the 3090 or should I sell it, add money to it and buy a 4070 super? Can you please help?

[@Arracheur2Khnouna]

if you are going to play in 4k the 3090 is a bit better cause of the vram they say but you gonna just win 4-7fps more than a 4070super but in 1440p and 4k 4070s is the same and very good i say same because you aint gonna win lot of fps in 4k or 1440p that gonna be the same just 4-7 fps more max keep your 3090 she do the same job than the 4070super i got a 4070super and its very good stuff but if you have an 3090 free keep it its the same dont wast money and time for loosing 4-7 fps

[@kaeji_namitsua]

How is used 3090 23% more expensive than 4070 Super? It have double the memory but much more power draw.

[@ThunderStruck115]

3090 level performance for only $600 is insane

[@gttchoppag631]

4070 Super хорошая, но владельцы 3090 могут подождать 5000 серию, а вот владельцы 4070 Super вряд-ли дождутся 6000 серию, вот в чём разница покупки топовой видеокарты, ещё удобно что можно продать за нормальную цену перед выходом нового поколения и ждать смены через поколение не нужно, ибо старое поколение уже не продашь выгодно.

[@СергейЮрьевич-ж6л]

думаю драйверами подрезали скорость 3090, что бы переходили на 4тысячную серию, так как в реальности 3090 на уровне 4070 Ti, но никак не 4070 SUPER. Это 3090 Ti и 4070 Ti SUPER на одном уровне

[@gttchoppag631]

@@СергейЮрьевич-ж6л да, есть такое, хоть многие оправдывают и не верят в искусственное снижение, но капиталисты они такие, отрицать этот факт глупо.

[@etiennelebuis7668]

The 3090 holds pretty well for a 4 years old gpu

[@MrDgt66]

3.5 years but yeah

[@huwer4035]

can u test i3 12100f vs 13100f vs 14100f

[@supergenius74]

2 thoughts, i don't think your cyberpunk settings really show how the 4070 can outperform the 3090, also i can't believe how low the framerates are in hogwarts.

[@Rr_9991]

so basically the same but 4070s takes about 30~50% less power than the 3090

[@niekasniekas2614]

And 12gb less vram

[@klaceekoolstra2658]

Interesting video! 😀🤘🏼

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

they all videos though, they got 'downgraded'

[@umarsaidahmad5470]

Why testing is still done with 13900K? Why nor 14900K, nor 7950X3D, nor 7800X3D????

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Proves how power efficient ada lovelace is

[@engineerisaac5719]

3090's frequency is so low🤣🤣 my rtx 3090 FTW3 Ultra keep it on 1950-2025Mhz, so performance is much higher than here

[@EzaneeGires]

Is the 3090 still good? Sure. Especially for AI/ML, 24 GB is decent value. If you can find a good one used or if you already own it sure. Unfortunately to upgrade from a 3090 and have the same amount of VRAM in an nvidia card... well, you know.

[@Amdur88]

2:12 что с компом? у меня 4070S 13400 и 32 ОЗУ, и с лучами выдает столько же ФПС, как у тебя без них

[@Zoddnosferatueurope]

Excuse me friends, I don't know much about it, but does that mean that the number of gigabytes of a graphics card doesn't actually mean anything? Because 24 GB versus 12. There is a 12 gigabyte difference

[@shopkehshobbeh7337]

Amount of VRAM doesn't equal better performance in games. There's certain activities that are VRAM hungry such as AI tasks, rendering, 3D modelling, animations etc. For gaming in 1080p, 12GB is plenty, enough for 1440p but 16GB is more futureproof for said resolution and for 4K it's not recommended to go below 16GB if you plan to use it for years but you can use 12GB as for right now. Graphics cards with 24GB of VRAM are basically replacements for Titan GPUs except 4090 because with that card you get Titan specs plus gaming performance.

[@tantumDicoQuodCogito]

4070 Super of course, less money and power consumption 😉

[@sergione14]

There is something wrong with Alan Wake 2. I have a 3080 Ti and with DLSS on, I have ~80 fps on this game at 1440p. I would expect this results (40 fps) in 4K by the way...

[@dhaumya23gango75]

He is using pathtracing in this video, you may not. That's why.

[@m8x425]

Except for Forza 5, both cards are within margin of error of being on par with eachother.

[@gurkal89]

In that case it seems like the tester forgot to switch of 120 FPS cap or vsync.

[@Igi_pop]

if this card has 16 ram and 256 bit bandwitch will be bestseller but yea...... it is what it is... nvidia greedy .. :D

[@rayraydente1712]

Then get the 4070 ti super

[@Igi_pop]

yea nvidia just making too expensive cards then.... :D @@rayraydente1712

[@jron7682]

They put those limitations to force you to buy the expensive models, while some people thinks their "friend company" just made a mistake. simple capitalism, making you desire something to spend more.

[@andreamaral9725]

​@@rayraydente1712not worth the $200+ dollars for barely any performance increase

[@asiansticker7015]

Yes it holds up but the 3090 will age better. Especially if you play in 4k

[@eddyn2]

Do you believe the next 5060ti will tie with the 3090?

[@user-gq3eq5bf9t]

Probably rtx 4070

[@davidfelix3851]

MY 3090 zotac boost up to 1,980mhz memory 22,054 on oc plus undervolt have hit 2070+ on GPU but don't remember how to replicate and have not fought to replicate so numbers should come out a little better Plus I have 48gb RAM.

[@nord2t_]

The 3090, 3090 Ti is by far the GPU that was not worth buying, by far because the 4090 was announced shortly afterwards and you could already buy it, and simply knocked the 3090 Ti out of existence

[@ismailelasbihani5893]

really good performance for 4070s but the 12gb vram makes the gpus useless i would rather pay more to get that 3090 to live at least 5 years without any worry about vram even on 4k

[@нетку]

4070 намного лучше, жаль тех кто взял 3090

[@NivrA_Benchmark]

Awesome thank you

[@LedEyeStrain]

4070 super top. Va meglio di una 3090 con 24gb

[@marius0448]

People seem to forget that used market exists and you can find crazy deals there.. you can literally snatch a rtx 3090 for around 300$ with the same performance as 4070S (in most games) and twice the VRAM (at half the price). 24gb vram are very important because you can keep the textures at max and lower other settings in the future games. You can build a AM5 build with rtx 3090 that has no trouble for 1440p max settings for around 1000$, CRAZYY

[@reitastatic3386]

Lemme know next time you see a 3090 for $300 lol

[@marius0448]

@@reitastatic3386 Exaggerated a bit there, but you can find one for about 400$ on used market, which is still crazy

[@LittleKiller1476psn]

@@marius0448nah that’s a lie. Lowest I’ve seen it go for is $700

[@marius0448]

@@LittleKiller1476psn Ebay exists

[@marius0448]

@@LittleKiller1476psn E(ba)y exists

[@0ssi170]

RTX4070Ti Super vs. RTX3090Ti possible ?

[@phill5917]

The Standard 4070 Ti is about the same as a 3090ti so the super will be better.

[@0ssi170]

@@phill5917 yes but i want see 200 vs 400 watt ! :D

[@andreamaral9725]

​@@phill5917no it's not the 4070 ti super is barely better than a 4070 super, it's pretty much just $200+ for more vram

[@sierrah6580]

Undervolt 4070S will be more impressive in Watt/Performace🤣

[@downthesight]

I bought a 3080 for $700 NIB last year.

[@robertopazsoldan9641]

The power of 7,168 ada cuda cores! beat 10,496 of ampere because of much higher IPC of Ada ❤

[@meow6023]

It's more the clock speed. Ada is clocking ~50% higher than ampere.

[@m8x425]

You're wayyy off about IPC. IPC is a CPU thing, not a Graphics chip thing. With CPU based IPC comparison, the core clocks HAVE to be EQUAL. Graphics cards are different because they have different sized memory busses, Texture mapping units, Render output units, etc. There are too many other parts to a GPU besides shader cores. Also, these companies have sometimes moved backwards by adding significantly more Shader cores that were weaker, which is the case with the jump from Fermi to Kepler.

[@robertopazsoldan9641]

@@m8x425 oh I see you dont like the term IPC for GPUs you prefer weaker shader cores ok cool. I like your example of fermi and kepler here is another Turing have stronger cores than Ampere rtx 3060ti with 4864 cores are on par with 2080super with only 3072 cores both have 256bits bus and 8gb

[@weiwu2113]

Not the cuda core no more is the clock speed

[@pardinator]

Can you do some tests between the RX 6800 and RX 7700 XT. Both having been dropping in price recently and are now around the same price so many people are going to need some help choosing.

[@LUKSPH77]

Rtx 3090 ti VS rtx 4070 ti super

[@lun4ticplayz]

Two words: Frame Generation

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

the dlss3 alone afaik has better quality and fps than lower series, then added framegen

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

framegen gaming isnt too bad imo and fps gain is often more important

[@lun4ticplayz]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 for some reason dlss quality decreases my fps instead of increasing them

[@michaela9821]

I’m not the smartest at Pc tech but what happened with Alan Wake 2 40 Fps is crazy low😂 Is Alan wake that graphically intensive?

[@pravnav]

Yes it's a very intensive game, and he put rt to high (in this game rt high is path tracing, which is super super intensive)

[@oktofio9690]

Alan Wake is the most demanding game right now in terms of system requirement...

[@simon3461]

Why does this 3090 suck soo much power ??

[@vinaoarmellini2069]

4K?

[@Diegocruz350]

1440p

[@-Rizecek-]

I waiting for RTX 5070 12-16GB 250W with 4080 power 👌👌

[@gurkal89]

5070 with 12GB VRAM would be a scam.

[@-Rizecek-]

@@gurkal89 After some 6-7 years nvidia will bring 12gb for 4070 and you expect them to give you 16gb? 12gb is enough even for 4k

[@gurkal89]

@@-Rizecek- they will not bring 12GB to 4070. They already did and 4070 Ti S does already have 16GB. 12GB is enough today but definitely not for all upcoming games.

[@AlejandroMagnoRivas]

3090 more stability

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

its fast and can be sli'd

[@AlejandroMagnoRivas]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 I jave mine overclock MSI OC but idk if Afterburner show the real frecuency because in a lot of games dont reach the max clock. Mine is 2050 mhz.. But the afterbuner soft sometime show me mine Auto OC is 2050,then 2010 and 1955 mhz . IDK but temps are high and the fand not are to silent like mine old strix gtx 1070 with zero rpm I play a lot of games now in 3090 is to hot.. By default with MSI off the card is OC by MSI Center, is higher than the oc boost. In fps something is strange OC vs Default because have like same fps but have a little better minimun FPS but sometimes have more stutter.. Is rare but sometimes run slow but after it performance better IDK I think OC in this card is a waste.. and the % Fans Speed is bad in MSI. The 3090 MSI Ventus 3x OC is more small than my old gtx 1070 Strix.. I think Msi is stupid because they can add a little more heatsink and is ready to performance better and maintain cooling. The Fans are Good but have little spades.. IDK what is doing MSI at least it included a support,will add Fans in future when come the spring in mine country

[@AlejandroMagnoRivas]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 yes is solid in framerate and frame timing,and latency. Never feel this in my last gtx 1070

[@Kotnan]

Finally won something at least

[@SagazHero]

cant wait for the 5070

[@vasy101]

Uhhhhh 3090 eat your power generator

[@raven679-m3i]

i feel bad for 3090 owner than theme gpu becomes mid range

[@HanmaHeiro]

Pretty sure it's been the a similar thing for 3 generations now. Just gotten worse with the intro of the 90 class. Still, I have doubts that a 5070 super will perform the same as a 4090. I hope to be wrong!

[@zak0r620]

I'd rather have a used RTX 3090 instead of the 4070 Super to future-proof my 2K setup. I'm not concerned about the power consumption. The RTX 3090 is far too powerful for 2K resolution and overly future-proofed. I would have preferred the 4070 Super only if it had more VRAM, but unfortunately, it doesn't. I believe 16GB of VRAM is sufficient for future-proofing a 2K resolution setup.

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

Can you do a Ryzen 7 8700G benchmark with RTX 4070 Super?

[@SkillerWolfCFM]

Doesnt make sense buying 8700G if you are going to have a GPU as well as Ryzen 7000 easily outperforms Ryzen 8000 in performance. 8700G can be a good APU for small PCs that are mainly for work and games that have lower requirements

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

@@SkillerWolfCFM What if i already have a GPU? In this case my current setup is an RTX 3060 + i7 4790k. I want to upgrade to an APU. I need the iGPU as my backup.

[@SkillerWolfCFM]

​@@BravoSixGoingDark I dont really see a reason of having iGPU as a back up. G versions of AMD dont perform well as normal and X versions. If you really need iGPU, pick i7 14700K instead but in that case, you will need new mobo if you go for intel 15000 / 16000 and maybe 17000 when they comes out as intel 14000 is last LGA1700. Dont pick a F or KF version of intel though as those havent iGPU. Im using R7 5800X + RX 7900XTX and gonna upgrade to Ryzen 9000 in few months when it comes out. Depends how much they gonna cost though as I dont wanna spend too much. Depending on the price I either gonna pick R5 9600/X or R7 9700/X. The 3D Versions most likely gonna be too expensive

[@BravoSixGoingDark]

@@SkillerWolfCFM I usually upgrade once every 10 years haha. My i7 4790k has given me 9 years of usage since Dec 2014. I am grateful to this CPU. It has seen 2 x GTX 970 in SLI (sold) for a 980 TI (died after 3 years of usage from overheating), rma'ed to a 1070Ti, (die again from a burn out capacitor) and now a RTX 3060.

[@ConnorH2111]

​@@BravoSixGoingDark The 7000 series has an igpu just not as good as the 8000G series.

[@tarumvolida6220]

wtf is the jump in difference in forza 5?

[@Goreck65]

4000 generation is always faster than 3000 in this game

[@AlienGurke]

Forza really like the increased Cache of the 40series

[@mar.posarestauropavimentii9693]

io o una rtx3090 rog strix oc Edition un pc assemblato tutto rog striz anche il monitor per un totale di 8.000.00 euro o fatto una prova in 2k settaggi ultra e folle tutto attivo Nvidia Dlaa+ Quality + Patn tracing Technology+ Patn tracing Foto tutti attivi ci Gioco a Cyberpunk dai 60 a 70 fps senza nessun disturbo ... mi spiegate come fa una 4070 e essere meglio della 3090 che a 24 gb contro 12 o 16 gb ma dai fatemi il piacere ... mettete queste impostazioni a una 4070 o 4080 vedrete che si bloccherà il gioco e il pc ... Ciao ragaa

[@sixx2683]

@@mar.posarestauropavimentii9693 messe... E su cyberpunk com dlss qualità , path tracing e tutte quelle cagate li ero sugli 80 fps (non stabili) con una 4070super. La 3090 è una 4070 super con più vram ma con performance peggiori se attivi il raytracing e in più non ha il frame gen. In poche parole la 4070 super è meglio perché consuma molto meno, va uguale se non di più e ha il frame gen. La 3090 ha solo più vram in suo favore

[@vardansurrname5589]

5070 super will be better then 4090?)

[@alix5atasi]

5070 will probably have the same performance of the 4080 the 3080 ti and 3090 had a very small difference in performance, 3090 only had twice the vram, while the 4090 not only has more vram, it has much better performance, so 5070 = 4080, 5080 = 4090, probably

[@raven99999]

Hmmm, does this mean 5070 = 4090 performance if they don't plan releasing "super" line up for 5000 series? 😂😂

[@laszlozsurka8991]

In your dreams. 5070 will definitely not be a 4090 level. You'll be lucky if the 5070 will match a 4080.

[@raven99999]

@@laszlozsurka8991 it's actually common for newest 70 series to be significantly better than last gen xx80. If 5070 series not at least 10% faster than 4080 s, people definitely will shit on nvidia 🤣

[@laszlozsurka8991]

@@raven99999 People have been shitting on NVIDIA for a long time, see the 4080 12 GB launch or the 4060 Ti launch and now the 3050 6 GB launch. I don't think it'll change anything. Even the 4080 SUPER is just the 4080 sold under a different name and price. 5060 = 3080 12 GB 5060 Ti = 3090 Ti 5070 = 10% faster than the 4080 (basically a 4080 Ti) 5070 SUPER = 10% slower than the 4090 5070 Ti = 4090 5070 Ti SUPER = 10% faster than 4090 (basically a 4090 Ti) 5080 = 20% faster than the 4090 5090 = 50% faster than 4090 I don't think the 5090 will be more than a 50% jump given how the node shrink from 4nm to 3nm is really small and nowhere close to the uplift that 4nm gave over 8nm.

[@raven99999]

@@laszlozsurka8991 nvidia haven't released "super" line up on odd number series. If 5000 series will be the first time they do it and it's because of lack of performance of the regular line up, than they really willing to gamble on their reputation. Well, we'll see about that soon

[@Diamond77002]

​@@laszlozsurka8991 nop rtx 4080 > rtx 5070 for sure its a 80 series

[@Piqued-Pug]

Why can't people test these GPU's at 1080p...

[@Lukas-lp2fz]

Who buys a 4070s or 3090 just to play 1080p lmao

[@1GTX1]

@@Lukas-lp2fz Almost everyone, since they use DLSS at 1440p

[@SABER_Knight-King]

🤡

[@Diamond77002]

​@@Lukas-lp2fz this your wife on your picture ?

[@Kaiser187]

30 series was a flop.

[@AFT_05G]

Except for 3060 12GB

[@gurkal89]

Not at all. Newer generations are usually faster than older ones ;)

[@Kaiser187]

@@gurkal89 2080Ti faster than 3060Ti... so yea.

[@gurkal89]

@@Kaiser187 what's the point of comparing the top model with a newer entry level model?

[@yasserqbyt2697]

If you find a used 3090 for 600 to 650 in my opinion is a better deal than the 4070 super

[@monnakornpawatmanotham5935]

Thanks

[@MatarTechPC]

The 4000 series only advantage is clock speeds otherwise same if its clocks per clock. put a 3080 @2750MHZ core and 3080 will win. so no architectural improvements except the 48mb cache but they also reduced memory bus so not an improvement and the extra clocks due to a die shrunk 5nm from 8nm 3000serises. they even knew it they wanted to sell it with dlss3 even though 2000 and 3000 can do it now Nvidia is going the Apple route.

[@m8x425]

IPC is a CPU thing, not a Graphics chip thing. With CPU based IPC comparison, the core clocks HAVE to be EQUAL. Graphics cards are different because they have different sized memory busses, Texture mapping units, Render output units, etc. There are too many other parts to a GPU besides shader cores. Also, these companies have sometimes moved backwards by adding significantly more Shader cores that were weaker, which is the case with the jump from Fermi to Kepler.

[@MatarTechPC]

@@m8x425 I know what’s IPC instructions per clocks and this is why I am saying this at same clocks if you put the 3000series if would perform the same if the 4000 had new IPC then at same clocks it still would be faster I am a professional on those matters not because I have a 3000series but I was just saying that not like old days where new generations would mean completely new architecture new gains even at lower GPU clocks

[@mythydamashii9978]

Both are expensive so keep in mind

[@azkaazka2877]

RTX 3090 FOREVER 🔥💃🔥🕺🔥

[@benjaminsegovia8441]

undervolt and ezzz 200w