RTX 4070 Ti Super vs RTX 4080 Super: The Ultimate Comparison!!!

[@Steven-ex3ne]

Questioning the maths teacher about his numbers, the cheek of it!

[@worthywizard]

Exactly my thought

[@xxkillerdogxx]

Teacher dropping knowledge.

[@SnapquesterMage]

As a fellow math teacher, I love the call out for referent unit! I always like to call it the "of what" when talking about percents. "50% *of what*" And just as you said, as long as your "of what" is the same, you can make fair comparisons!

[@retrosean199]

But bigger bar better! I heard it on Reddit. 😆

[@n8spL8]

there are lies, damned lies, and then statistics. some math teachers aren't as talented as our guy.

[@ckling217]

You are doing your performance calculations the best way. Don't listen to the ignorant viewers. Thanks for the refresher anyway.

[@Joric78]

Even better, he took the time to educate them. Or at least to try...

[@Tatoebot]

Seems you are one of the ignorant viewers 😂

[@Tatoebot]

@@calvin659 yes that’s it

[@iwantgoat]

@@Tatoebot please explain albert asstein

[@ADOS_DSGB]

The 4080 Super doesn't have enough performance advantage to justify the price. The 4070 TI Super is the better deal.

[@saitamapunchforyou]

True, but i still prefer 4080 super, because its still affortable. (not like 4090)

[@mpdmpd8118]

@@saitamapunchforyou 4090 expensive before of the 24gb vram

[@lilmisery1643]

@@saitamapunchforyouexactly have money to spend on one but 1700 is just crazy I spent 1059 on my 4080

[@johnbeeck2540]

I was able to get my 4080 Super for $930 - just 16% more than the 4070 ti Super - with an approximate uplift of 15% I'd call that a worthwhile investment - will likely skip next two gens of GPUs...

[@caliginousmoira8565]

@@johnbeeck2540 is this with tax?

[@legiox3719]

I want a 4090 so bad, but the thought of spending money on 1 GPU that can total the entire amount of a complete system is just bonkers to me.

[@AnthonyRodriguez-v6e]

Get it on payments don’t feel the hit as hard

[@pokuy6756]

@@AnthonyRodriguez-v6e 🤣

[@kerkertrandov459]

Nah its never okay to spend 1600$+ on a gpu. If i was rich i would, still feels ridiculous. U can buy a car for this money. U can buy so much.

[@NoClue-rat]

4080 super is right up there with 4090 for nearly half the cost..

[@mariuszrogowski7397]

@@kerkertrandov459 still during covid when taiwan lowered production of gpus in Poland u had to pay 1600 euro for 3080... for 3080Ti 2000 euro

[@drago939393]

There's something sickening about spending 800-1200 USD and not being able to play the latest games at 4K60FPS at native rendering, without the frame generation and upscaling nonsense.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

Totally agree.

[@Wayne72LEVRAI]

You can complain to game’s developers for that, they are lazy on optimisation because this is easier to tell to people to buy overpriced video cards.

[@lsik231l]

For the price of a 4080 super, you can buy the 4070 Ti Super AND upgrade your CPU. More performance/better bang for buck from that perspective.

[@GrySgtBubba]

For real though! Glad I'm not the only one thinking this way Lol

[@nekonari22]

But you might also need new motherboard... and new memory

[@WizZarDz0rrrr]

at 1440p, but at 4k cpu dont matter

[@MG-rm4pz]

​@WizZarDz0rrrr it won't at 1440p either

[@ishiddddd4783]

@@MG-rm4pz it does tho

[@nathangraber8447]

Thank you at the end for addressing the main overlooked part of the discussion... Anything above the 4070 ti super is essentially going to be the SAME EXPERIENCE GAMING as the rest of it. Going up to the 4080 or 4080 super doesn't give you enough added performance to jump up to 4k in any games you couldn't before, or allow you to move from the 60+ fps experience up to the 120+ fps experience.... If you want to be competitive in new games AND play the graphically focused single player games in 1440 you basically have to jump up to the 4070 ti super.... and if you really really want to drive these newer graphically focused games at HIGH REFRESH RATES you pretty much HAVE to jump up to the 4090. Landing in the middle doesn't really do anything for the gaming consumer.

[@chasegimbel1904]

generally i agree how ever in canada the 4090 is alot higher priced then the 4080 super, so it makes a bit more sense to grab the 4080 super in that case but yes in general the experience for most games will be the same save for maybe the 1 percent outliers

[@wavvygrizzlyy5742]

@@chasegimbel1904 but the 4090 is now priced higher than the 4080 super and even then if the 4070 ti super can do basically the same thing as the 4080 super then it more reasonable to save your money go with the 4070 ti super.

[@gehtdinichtsan309]

@@wavvygrizzlyy5742 the 4090 is "now" priced higher? in my country the 90 and 80 (super) were never even remotely close when it came to pricing.

[@wavvygrizzlyy5742]

@@gehtdinichtsan309 yes a month ago it was, prices go down and up. last month it was indeed higher. please check how long long before commenting😂

[@wavvygrizzlyy5742]

@@gehtdinichtsan309 and where do you live? im curious to see how much it is

[@ericcarlton87]

🤦🏼‍♂️ the ones questioning your maths are the same ones that always skipped your class, Dan. 😂 Great vid

[@nickbryant6970]

4080 super is clocked a little lower so it does make sense. People look at percentages without analyzing everything. Obviously a 4080 super at 3000mhz core is going to perform a lot better.

[@just1nt1m3]

@@nickbryant6970that wasnt the question

[@hijodeyeshuah3567]

😂😂😂😂

[@IceCreamePudding]

Lmao people trying to tell a Math teacher that their numbers are wrong.

[@yourlocalhuman3526]

bro i said the exact same thing hahaha

[@OlaffLudwig]

But he still cared to explain the math behind it. True teacher. I love it.

[@504Trey]

U know comment section math teachers are the smartest even though they struggled in math class in real life 😎

[@ImotekhtheStormlord-tx2it]

nvidia fanboys. they cant admit that nvidia is fucking them over

[@magnusskold9134]

Asus 4070 Ti Super TUF for $799 was the best choice in the Super series. It was an instant buy for me. Still find it quite strange the reviewers didn’t see its sweet spot. I think they got blinded by the excellent uplift of 4070 Super and expected the same for 4070 Ti Super and then got disappointed. 4070 Ti Super is doing exactly what’s it’s supposed to do. I’m having a blast playing Alan Wake 2 with full Ray Tracing, it’s amazing and a very important factor to actually enjoy the game and rise the tension/excitement/scariness. If I turn off RT it’s just another game. Never experienced such big difference before.

[@daseb_xd]

What CPU did you pair your 4070 TiS with?, looking to buy a sub $2000 pc

[@Kryptonight_Exception]

​@daseb_xdhere stick with an I7 or Ryzen 7 7700X, don't get anything less and don't bother with anything bigger if you only plan on Gaming, the I9's are roughly about the same speed, but alot more cores... cores you'll most likely never use for gaming. Just get an I7 14700K and Slightly OC it and your good. Unless your planning on like... single pc streaming or some video editing, then an I9 makes sense. But like a 14700k has plenty of horsepower to run a few extra things while gaming. Also note, this is the last year for the LGA 1700 socket that Intel is currently using for the 14th gen. So if your looking to future proof now, go Ryzen. Or wait till 15th gen intel comes out and go from there. The 7700X multithread scores at about half of what the I7 can do multitasking, but their about the same for single core.

[@Nerex7]

If the target is gaming only, I'd say any of the X3Ds will do great. More cores is always nice, back when I was on a 6-core I noticed that some games would perform much worse simply because the cores used also needed to run everything else, that's why more cores can be good for gaming. Similar to how intel does it with the efficiency cores, some weaker cores to run shenanigans in the back while the power cores carry your game. My rig is from 2021 and I'm sitting on a 5900X but I don't see any reason to hop off it anytime soon. Such a blast. @@Kryptonight_Exception

[@billpii6314]

I bet I can show you scenes without RT that you couldn't tell the difference other than a much lower FPS. Programmers have gotten real go with lighting even without RT.

[@billpii6314]

@@Kryptonight_Exceptionand you don't even have to OC it to "be good". :)

[@JayzBeerz]

$400.00 difference so the 4070 ti Super is the better value.

[@VENDETTA_HEHE]

In india?? Yea get 4070 ti super then

[@kerkertrandov459]

If ure looking for value it's hard to beat smth like the 6600xt or the 6700xt, they might have half the performance but cost a quarter of the money

[@neonomad6639]

In my country scalpers raised 4070 ti super price to 1100$ and 4080 super to 1500$ !!!

[@GewelReal]

skill issue

[@lifemocker85]

Ngreedia is the scalper already

[@Mr11ESSE111]

just buy 7900xt or xtx

[@BeB02090]

Goodness, I'm sorry. Not fair. 😮 I'm hoping in time, you find the GPU for you, at a price that's that's just. Hold your ground and stay strong everyone.

[@cythose4059]

@@Mr11ESSE111 im going to do that, in 2 months im going to buy the 7900xtx, was looking for 4070 ti or super but its the same price as 7900 xt/xtx

[@asimplelifewoodworking8318]

I have held on to a EVGA 1070 and it holds up so well. I have been so fortunate to be able to upgrade to a 4070 ti super. I know from my 1070 that it will hold up for 8 years and it is worth the price.

[@shezmu24]

I was rocking an MSI 1070 until recently and put together a new rig with the Asus tuf 4070 ti super, its the last part and it arrives tomorrow so excited to see 8 years of improvement all at once

[@Kingepticon]

@@shezmu24 I'm building a new rig myself. Coming from a 9700K/1070 and going to a 7800X3D/4070 Ti Super in a Lian Li 011D Evo RGB. I'm just waiting on the new Asus PG32UCDM 32" 4K 240 Hz OLED monitor to come back in stock.

[@Nerex7]

Don't forget that your usecase is always very important in telling how long a GPU will hold up. I switched out my old 1070 Ti for a 3070 in 2021 because I was seeing averages below 60fps (at 1080p) on settings that were at least medium in some of the newer AAA games (which was my target to play fluently, at least 60 fps). If I was a person who only played MMOs or other Online Games, I could have probably held out a lot longer. All that said, a 4070 Ti Super will probably last you a very long time seeing as the 1070 lasted you this long. On top of that comes DLSS and Frame Generation, which will probably be a part of the gaming industry for a long time now and that will make the GPU live even longer.

[@gokartninja1]

Don't use the 10 series as your benchmark for how long a GPU will remain relevant. It set a very high standard that may not be reached again

[@sebastiansegovia6115]

u spittin nonsense bro the 1070 sucks lmao quit the cope

[@Leptospirosi]

Easy to understand this way: If I go to a store and get a price "plus VAT", it means I get, for example, 1000$ plus 20% VAT (actual numbers may vary). If instead, the same store gives me a 20% discount, it means I'll have (example) 1200$ purchase price less 20% to pay. The base purchase price is what makes the final account. 20% of 1200 is obviously more then 20% of 1000.

[@cantingpython]

here in the states where there isnt a vat tax discounts are applied before sales tax

[@MeepMeep88]

Screw it.. I blame the game devs for not optimizing the games lol.. We shouldn't have to keep upgrading our gfx cards just so the graphics can still run good but look the same as it did 10 years ago. Stop being lazy game devs.

[@IksKaz]

Lmao at the percentages bit, you're really the bigger man Daniel. Fewer people are bad at maths today thanks to you.

[@JuiceboxDesmond]

I got a kick out of the math smackdown. Keep the awesome content coming Daniel

[@lanelesic]

4:20 God bless the math teacher educating the commenters that didnt learn in school. 👍

[@KrytopsyX]

I had this exact dilemma, choosing between a RTX 4070 Ti Super and a RTX 4080 Super, I chose the first because the performance increase was too minimal for my taste. I went for the 4070 Ti Super for the VRAM and the memory bandwidth and I put the money saved on other things in my PC. The videos are on point, the maths part at the beginning 👌, I’m kiddin’ a bit but some people genuinely don’t understand while others can be arguing in bad faith but regardless the video was perfectly balanced be informative and fun to watch for all IMO 👍

[@kathrynck]

I think 4070 Ti Super is the goat for 1440p. Although 7900 XT is very tempting for anyone who's not interested in ray tracing. I could see going 4080/4080super for 1440 ultrawide, but not for regular 1440p.

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@kathrynckYou act like RTX is all about ray tracing LMAO -> DLDSR, DLSS, DLAA, Reflex, RTX IO, RTX Video, DLSS 3 + FRAME GEN for 4000 series as well. AMD is SEVERLY lacking on features when you consider HOW MANY FEATURES RTX really has at this point and better yet, TONS of games has all these features. Meanwhile FSR3 support is lacking HARD and looks way worse than DLSS/DLAA because of artifacts. AMDs solution was AFMF which is TERRIBLE compard to Frame Gen for 4000 series. Tons of artifacts as well. This is AMDs huge problem right now. Their features are subpar and they should lower prices even more.

[@munfurai8083]

@@kathrynck I think even UW, the 4070 Ti Super is probably still the best overall bet. It's 4k where I think the 4080 Super would be more necessary.

[@kathrynck]

@@munfurai8083 hmm, but 4080/super is slightly weak on 4k. If 1440-UW is best off with 4070 Ti Super, then 4080 is kinda in a no-mans-land between monitor resolutions, no? Then again, I guess there's a market for a 'weak-ish' 4k-card, which costs a lot less than a 4090.

[@rinserofwinds]

@@kathrynck i had this situation, got an 4070 ti super and returned it for a 4080 super. i switched from 1080p to 4k in this generation and mostly play total war warhammer 3. the 4070 ti super was a great card and also a little, but noticeable bit less loud than the 4080 super, but it delivered just this 10-15% less fps that keep me over 60 fps in tww3. if i pay that much money for an gpu i don't want a card, that delivers just not enough to give me a smooth experience.

[@vh9network]

Daniel, I'm amazed that you can still do all these TechTube videos and teach math to grade schoolers, you are good at managing your time.

[@pokealong]

-I can get a 4070 Ti Super for $800 delivered overnight to my door by 8am. -A 4080 Super is $1150+ and would take 4-6 days to get to me. For 10fps that just doesn't feel worth it.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I'm going for the 4070 Ti Super. It even has 2 HDMI ports vs. 1 of the 4080 Super.

[@billpii6314]

@@paradoxicalcat7173 lol So?

[@chasegimbel1904]

@@paradoxicalcat7173 who cares about hdmi ports

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

@@chasegimbel1904 Those of us that use them!! LOL

[@fillezzo]

@@paradoxicalcat7173 the only port you should care about is Displayport

[@DarthIke77]

Just bought a whole new build today. Had budget for a 4090 but decided to go with a 4070 Ti Super. Price and performance range felt right and the rest of my build is ready for 5k series when that comes out (rumored later this year). Save some cash now, upgrade to a 5090 in the fall. Hell yeah. Idk just my 2 cents but 4080/4080 super just seems like an unhappy middle ground to me. The actual noticeable difference between 10 more fps when you’re already over 60 is practically nonexistent.

[@JayUchiha17]

Smart man. I just ordered my first pc build with the 4070 Ti Super and its clearly the winner, anyone for buying the 4080S has money to waste and isn't patient enough to see they are throwing away money when the 5090 is the only next graphical leap for an upgrade. Man I'll never be able to explain to my wife paying 2K USD on a GPU.

[@Jasz_]

Looking at this, glad I got my 4070 Ti Super at MSRP. Was a great bump in performance compared to my 3070 @4K 120hz.

[@UMADl3RO5]

This is my exact situation. I have a 3070 but want a 4070 ti super. My only problem is I have a i9 10900 non k, so no overclock on my cpu. I think my cpu is strong enough to handle that card, but just barely.

[@Jasz_]

@@UMADl3RO5 You're more GPU bound at 4K then CPU. I'd go for it.

[@BossHoss429]

I got the 4070 ti super. Upgraded from a laptop gtx 1060.

[@shinpai_uwu]

​you have a decent enough cpu already. 13/14 th intel cpus were so bad intel recently even opened an additional 2 year warranty window for all of these cpus.

[@AzaelGaming]

@@shinpai_uwu Please elaborate on why they're bad? I'm no PC genius or anything, not trying to be snarky. I am currently deciding on what to buy for a new PC system, currently have i7 14700k slotted in, am I making a foolish decision on my cpu choice? Cheers

[@stanmarge6326]

Cancelling my 4080 S order after watching this video. 1186€ here in France while I could get 4070TS at 930€, 250€ of difference definitely not worth ≈ 10 fps / game

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

I reached the same conclusion, especially for my specific use case.

[@skuripandaburns3489]

With this logic, noone would ever be buying 4090 at 2k euros. And inevitably, you can keep finding the best price-performance ratio all the way down until you get to a 300 euro PC that can barely run Windows. A 4060ti for example only costs 460 euros while 4070ti super is 1050. Is 4070tis performance 2.3x better than 4060ti? No, it's only 1.7x better. So, logically, 4060ti has a better price-performance. Why bother with 4070tis? What I'm saying is: price:performance is a silly metric. If you want a 20% better performance and can afford it, get 4080s. With a 7900x CPU, the 4080s is a lot less of a bottleneck than the 4070tis.

[@rubalouba]

​@@skuripandaburns34897900xtx instead of 4080s?

[@OlaffLudwig]

@@skuripandaburns3489 While I acknowledge your point of view. I suggest an use case (prolly a rare one). 1440p ultra wide display (because of working from home compromise). Gaming, but not demanding ultra details in newest games and also occasionally playing with stable diffusion (where the VRM matters a ton). PCie3.0 motherboard ( Ryzen 5700x, upgrading from GTX 1070). Now it makes sense to me to go for 4070TS. 4060Ti being only 8x card kinda puts PCIe3.0 at disadvantage. So this comparison kinda makes to me. If you know what I mean. Tho I could see an argument to go all the way to 4090 and later on only needing of an upgrade of the rest of the system, but then we are getting into a circle... I am sorry if it was confusing

[@skuripandaburns3489]

@OlaffLudwig my point stands: get a card that matches your performance needs (or wishes), if you can afford it, and don't make your decision by the "price:performance" metric, because the best performance per dollar is always on the cheapest cards. But do the cheapest cards satisfy your minimum? If you want 10% more performance and can afford 20% higher price tag, don't let anyone make you feel bad about opting for a more expensive card. Your system must be built according to your needs and your budget.

[@xedarkrunner5167]

I got the 4070 ti super… 4080 super disappointed from stores in an instant for the msrp. For 1440p ultrawide the increase in vram over my 3080 10gb made wonders, as most games maxed with RT eat up 13gb vram. As long nvidia keeps pumping frame gen into games, I am set for a few years!

[@kathrynck]

How is the 4070 Ti super on 1440 ultrawide? I was thinking 4070 Ti super looked 'very' strong for regular 1440p, but that 4080/super might be interesting for ultrawide. Just curious how it's working for you (although obviously it's probably crushing your previous card hehe). Do you use upscaling or anything? Is it solid on ultrawide without dlss?

[@xedarkrunner5167]

@@kathrynck So far so good! I use DLSS and FG when available. The latency added is so minimal, that the graphics quality makes up for it a ton. Alan Wake 2 completely maxed with RT runs at 70 fps with DLSS quality and FG. And honestly I don't think we'll see much more demanding games than that for a while. Forza Horizon 5 went from 95 on ultra/extreme with RT to 165 when adding FG. One thing is the average fps, but the most noticeable is the way higher 1% lows, so the gameplay is more smooth.

[@kathrynck]

@@xedarkrunner5167 makes sense on the 1% lows. I was just curious. I'm using a 4090 on 4k, and I don't use DLSS much with it, as my monitor isn't gonna go over 120hz without signal compression (which it 'can' do, but it isn't loss-less). Cyberpunk/AllenWake are obvious exceptions, they're kinda the modern "Crysis" hehe. Just trying to stay well informed about what works well at what resolution. And I don't see a lot of UW benchmarking.

[@xedarkrunner5167]

@@kathrynck I agree. I wish to see more benchmarking at 1440p ultrawide as well, but I see the extra work needed for a reviewer to do such a thing, however the ultrawide market is increasing. I usually look at 1440p and 4k, and imagine to be somewhere in the middle but closer to 1440p 16:9.

[@kathrynck]

@@xedarkrunner5167 *nod* that makes sense. I did see someone doing a lot of 1440 UW testing vs 1440p, and it looked like a 20-28% performance hit depending on title. 4k wasn't tested alongside it (like you said, a lot of work for reviewers), but other benchmarks elsewhere would put 4k at a lot more of a performance hit. I think UW looks like it'd be around 1/3 of the way to 4k (from 1440p)? maybe a little less even. Technically my monitor would be great for benching this sort of thing (Neo G7 32"), it can display 1440p UW with letterboxing. But I only have one GPU myself hehe. I just think 1440 UW is a great option (though I like my large-4k). And wanna have informed opinions on card choices for UW, cuz people ask :)

[@fubarexress6359]

INCREDIBLE video. Extremely detail heavy (love this as a nerd) but also you gave a VERY fair and reasonable opinion at the end. I decided to go with the TOP END Ryzen 9 CPU, 4070 TI SUPER, 64 gigs DDR5 7200 MHZ ram, and gen 5 NVME for storage. My frames are OFF THE CHARTS on all my main games (in some cases getting 120+ more frames on high/ultra settings). I was ALMOST gonna get the 4090, but I feel the 50 series will prob be a better move. If I am gonna spend 1400-2000+ dollars, I want HIGH ASS frames on ultra, with PT ETC. I won't spend that much to get 30-50 FPS. Not worth it.

[@ShubhsGamingHub]

Yeah, 5090 would be the ultmate 4k card.

[@TechExplorerPro]

I will be honest, I got the 4080S FE (after many hours of refreshing) just because I plan to build in a NR200 which 1) It fits perfectly 2) Really like the look of it compared to the other brand models with a lot of RGB. When the really nice looking 4070 Ti S almost cost $900 in BB, I just decided the 10%-20% increase with the look of the FE was worth it.

[@keizhardy931]

It's incredible how many games keeps coming out optimized like shit for PC. I feel sorry for people than plays on 4k without at least a 4090, because other "high end" GPU's suffer too much from what I can see and yet keeps depending totally on the DLSS to bring at least a decent way to play.

[@DETERMINOLOGY]

It’s to make the 5080 and 5090 look good. That’s why games are being unoptimized.

[@schiltz371]

THANKS FOR CONFIRMING WHAT I FELT IN MY GUT!! 4070ti super, here i come! currently using 1080ti....

[@aridgp1]

4070 TI Super has a lot of room for overclocking, specially if you buy the Gigabyte Gaming OC version. I overclocked my card and got 13 percent performance boost in cyberpunk ( game settings: 4k ultra DLSS balanced with RT) ! That's stable 63 fps in 4K ! Super happy with my card :)

[@tontsar91]

I have absolutely no idea why there are people talking negative about this card, if you consider the average 1440p-4K gamer in 2024 this card seems to have the perfect balance between price and performance

[@ziggs123]

​@@tontsar91no, the perfect price/performance is anything between 7700xt and 7900txt. You pay a premium of 200$+ for 4070ti super to have better raytracing, which lets not fool ourselves please, people turn off anyways.

[@badland.6503]

@@ziggs123Well, in my country 4070TIS is cheaper then rt 7900 xtx for around 100-130€, soo..

[@ziggs123]

@badland.6503 so what? 7900txt performance is better than 4080 super... It's like saying the 4090 costs 1k more than 7900txt soo...

[@recklesskilljoy_6418]

… yall realize he’s a math teacher right 🤣

[@nickprewitt8326]

Love the value talk with this channel. I was looking for a little better experience in the 4070s super and ended up going with the 4070 TI super. It fits my needs perfectly for 1440 P gaming. Thanks for all the recommendations!

[@billpii6314]

This is the card I'm going to get also, frankly, it looks like the best bang for the buck GPU.

[@alfrdhrnndz]

@@billpii6314 4070 super best bang for buck, 4070 ti super best future proof card until u pick up an rtx 6090 ti

[@donVicanio]

Same here, just got it 2 days ago .. amazing!

[@gokartninja1]

​@@billpii6314 only if you're stuck on Nvidia. If you're open to AMD, they really do deliver more frames per dollar

[@Cheeeeetah]

@@gokartninja1true

[@eduvivan2562]

You are literally the best in this gpu comparison scenario. The only one who compares high and ultra settings which looks basically the same but in many cases offers much better performance. Congrats on the content and PLEASE keep it up! Heheh

[@MichaelQuick-f3m]

Dude great video. You 100% answered any questions i had about going with the 4080 super over the 4070ti super. Thank you.

[@mattparsons8598]

Great content, your XTX vs 4080 video helped me decide on a 4080S over the XTX and I couldn't be happier with my decision. 4080S run cool, quiet and your point about meaningfully different experiences is spot on. 4080S if you can get it at MSRP, 4070ti is a great option otherwise.

[@Dbpezlo]

Just picked up a used 4080 for $840 and this thing is a beast! I benchmarked it after purchase to make sure it is putting up numbers similar to other 4080's and it stacks up. Very happy with it! When deciding I was torn between the used 4080 and a new 4070 Ti Super. Thanks for the vid!

[@JayUchiha17]

man i wish i could only get the 4070 Ti Super for that price. I was going to buy the 4080 but its just 10 extra fps I'll live

[@Dbpezlo]

@@JayUchiha17 Totally fair! Only reason I needed an upgrade was my 6700XT started to have some issues. It was a great card for the time I had it though

[@bigatchoum]

That's the video I was waiting for! Thank you sir!

[@HonestHans365]

I watched it before buying a 4070ti Super

[@theobserver9479]

Doing quick calculations, taking as reference "Alan Wake 2" in 4k with maximum graphics + maximum RT + DLSS + FG and comparing Zotac 4070 ti Super (45 FPS) with Zotac 4080 Super (60 FPS) in the same gaming situation, having Tested both GPUs and taking into account the fluctuation margin in both cases of about 2 or 3 FPS, I see that the performance of the 4080 super compared to the 4070ti super, in my case and in terms of FPS, is approximately 25%. Considering that (my situation is in Europe) the 4080 super (€1,129) is about 22% more expensive than an RTX 4070 ti super (€879), the "price/performance" rule pays off. I know that this difference in performance can decrease or increase depending on the game, I also tried other games where the FPS difference in the majority was somewhat greater, but the difference never went below about 15 FPS and taking into account the demand of a game like " Alan Wake 2", I think it is a good starting point to see the difference between one GPU and the other. In this case I think it depends more on the resolution at which you are going to play and how much money you are willing to spend to choose the 4070 ti super or the 4080 super. I chose the 4080 super because I play on a 4k 165hz monitor, but not the Zotac model because it reaches temperatures between 73° and 75°, in this case investing a little more money in another manufacturer will give better cooling and temperature results, fully verified . I want to make it clear that I totally agree with everything discussed in the video and I am aware of the mathematical knowledge and the rigor of the tests carried out, so forgive me if my conclusion is wrong but this has been my personal experience. I don't want to say that it is correct or definitive, since the FPS also depends on the different components that accompany it, but it is what I have experienced and I simply wanted to share it, greetings.

[@Foxxnioxx]

Both cards are overpriced, imo.

[@Mopantsu]

Yup! You pays your money and makes your choice. I had some money to burn and went for a fancy 4080S upgrading from a 6700XT.

[@VIPERITE16]

No shit sherlock

[@Venomancerous]

Well you did good. You will see huge difference. Dlss 3.0, frame generation, DLAA, Nvidia reflex and great optimization. @@Mopantsu

[@Venomancerous]

@@thegamerfromwonderland8707 I think that it depends on what resolution you have. If you're running 2K and you don't want to spend crazy amounts you can buy 4070 ti. It's enough for today but only concern is 12gb vram and that's why 4070 ti super is way better option today because of vram.

[@Venomancerous]

@@thegamerfromwonderland8707 when i have money i also go fun mode i love hardware. If you can afford 4090 just wait for 5000 series. Buying 4090 now is a really bad move because in september/october there will be 5th gen. But even if you buy 4090 its a beast. I agree that 12gb today on 2k is minimum. Below that is unusable. I dont stream so i dont need additional power but in general there is no great option in 4000 series only 4090 but costs like a house :)

[@johnloretta221]

i have been watching your videos for serval months now.. along with alot of others who do what you do.. and though everyone is good at what they do, i do see your videos as the most informative from a intellectual aspect and feel you break them down to laymen's terms better than anyone else for us dummies, so thank you!! don't know how anyone could/would call out your intelligence!!? so thank you Daniel!! keep up the grind of great informative videos!!

[@arvinsim]

As much as I want to get the 4070 Super for value, I do want the 16GB VRAM. In my country, the difference between the 4070 TI Super and 4080 Super is 220 USD. Which would you recommend?

[@cadenprosise2609]

What did you choose?

[@JayUchiha17]

I hope he got the 4070 Ti Super

[@andyhlfc1988]

I can get the 4070ti super for £750 at the moment and the 4080 for £899. Which would be best based on the smaller % difference in price now?

[@markhalstead2386]

So sad that people do not understand percentage calculations. As a chemical engineer, who has taught higher math at college on the side, it is crazy when people try to correct my math. Similarly, it is crazy to question the math of a math teacher!

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

It's healthy to ask "are you sure", but not out-right say someone is wrong without proof.

[@icyfrostyguy]

You've just saved my wallet ALOT of stress. Thank you so much for your detailed explanation. Nothing else I've seen relating to these GPUS comes close to your review's depth and detail. Keep up the phenomenal work mate. Considering I'm currently using an MSI gaming laptop with a 1650 in it, I'm now realising from your review that either one is going to be a night and day difference for me. EDIT: Im from New Zealand so prices in general for GPS are stupid

[@buckwheat6722]

Thank You! Well done! You cleared up my doubts!!!!

[@Govx000]

So which one sir?

[@theGrandRapidian]

Great video, and put my mind at ease about my purchase of an ASUS ProArt 4070 TI Super for about $20 below MSRP yesterday.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

What CPU do you have, and what perf do you see at what res?

[@spike178]

Yeah looking at that card for my small itx case price still too high for me though in UK £840..... Have a ryzen 5 7600 cpu, game at around 3k res on Oled ultra wide curved monitor. Probably wait for the 4080 super version to drop in price, in no rush.

[@AdrianValenciaYT]

Hi, just wanted to point at the other case where if someone was considering a higher tier 4070 Ti Super (a ROG Strix at $900 for example) against a cheap MSRP 4080 Super ($1'000). Then it'd be a better deal, I'm just saying. 😅 but I know it's also a matter of higher quality materials, better heat dissipation and so. It's really up to you.

[@notkilometres]

I love the way you format these videos with is X better than Y - makes it a lot easier for me to rationalize GPU purchases and what tier GPU I should go for.

[@calcariachimera]

I'd love to one day see you do a video on best hardware for VR gamers, I'm just in the process of upgrading my GPU from a 3060ti to either 4080 super or 4070 ti super, I have a 13th gen cpu it's an i7 13700f, which graphics card would you suggest for my CPU?

[@Sonicstillpoint83]

Please keep the math lessons coming whenever the moment strikes you. Math was never taught in anything outside of extreme abstraction, and when I discovered the utility of math in the realms of music and technology, I always enjoyed sharing those discoveries with my math teachers during the last year of high school so many years ago.

[@TheSkepticSkwerl]

Let people call you out, they've already made their mind up. Percentages confuse a ton of people, and it's sad.

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

It's the way fractions are taught that creates the problem. People just can't grasp "improper fractions", such as 2/1, and recipricols; for example 1.5 = 3/2, thence the reciprocol of 1.5 is 0.6667 (2/3). It is so much easier when you understand the fractional representation!

[@MrKrampyHands]

Personally I almost got a 4080 support but I'm so so glad I chose a 7900xtx zero regrets man plus I get 8 more gigs than the 4080 and better rasterization performance and it's a big big improvement in some games like cod one of my most played games

[@kavibaig8363]

I’ve just gone from an RTX 3070 to a 4080 Super for 1440p UW, it’s night and day difference!

[@Osprey850]

You make me sad for still having a 3070. 😢

[@kathrynck]

nice upgrade. How is it on 1440 UW? Any need to run dlss for performance? or is it acing it without?

[@lalokillx1372]

So if the 4080 is at 1.1k is it worth over the 4070ti at 900?

[@nekonari22]

$999 4080 Super exists. I got one! It wasn't hard to find either.

[@hehashivemind6111]

Listen. Considering the absolute state that the American education system is in right now, I think a math lesson and specifics on language and how math is explained or worded out is SUPER VALUABLE. If anything, I would encourage it more in future videos.

[@DonTyler_]

What cpu did you use with these tests?

[@itsPeerfekt]

I just loved the math teacher exitment at the beginning. I would watch explanation videos from you, seriously xD

[@MusicGuy-fj4sf]

3 weeks later, and that same windforce v2 is costing 1279,00 USD this is just crazy.

[@JoshLopez-k6t]

I see it everywhere for $999 right now.

[@brianmiller1574]

Your calculations and comparing 4070Ti S vs 4080S is very helpful. I was debating whether to go for the one or the other, but not for a gaming only, but also rendering and other compute work. I still have Strix 3090 and although its awesome card, but the power draw is whey to high. During some workloads 3090 will pull 390W-400W and that is not efficient. I got both, 4080S FE and Asus Dual 4070TiS and run both in some compute workloads before making my decision. 4070TiS uses less power then 4080S and completion time is virtually the same but 4080S can pull 30-40W more and over 3-4 hours that can make a big difference. The main reason why I kept Dual 4070TiS, it very compact card and also was $200 less that is bonus above everything else.

[@keevacarroll5768]

Thank you, this was the video I was looking for. Wanted to know what would be best for playing on a 4k TV with a controller and it seems that 4070tis would definitely be the one to go for, especially with the prices the way they are.

[@SheedVI]

Agreed, 4080s would make more sense if it was 20gb but since it’s the same as the 4070ti super just doesn’t make sense to me

[@Diegopie115]

Amazing content! It's so hard to find people who benchmark with DLSS and frame gen consideration I jumped the gun on a 4070 Super and am exchanging for a 4070 Ti Super for that extra VRAM Not sure my specific settings, but I did Cyberpunk at medium settings with pathtracing and was hitting 60 FPS WITH VRAM maxed out

[@stonz_]

Crazy that people were questioning a maths teacher about his calculations...

[@SYN_Beezt]

I think its also worth noting the differences in power consumption. It seems like the 4080 is able to run lower in less demanding settings, but also can consume noticeably more when it is demanding. With so many examples at different settings, this is a great way to look at the expected heat differences from the gpu being tested, without knowing how it is being cooled and the ambient temperatures. It would also be helpful to see the cpu temps during these tests, just to get an idea of when bottlenecks are being hit. Thanks for the information!

[@3SprongFork]

5:02 bro is giving us math lessons 😭

[@cybervoid8442]

For free too!!

[@1SaG]

4070 Super is probably the best deal out of all the Super cards. Followed closely by the 4070 Ti Super. That's why I opted for the 4070 S, but... as soon as I hit performance limits on *that* card, I started to second guess my decision to not grab a 4070 Ti Super. Which is a big mistake, as I'm sure that had I gone with the Ti Super and then run into *its* limits (which isn't as hard as you'd think in VR), I probably would've wished for a 4080/Super. Bottom line for me is that I simply (try to) accept the limits of my card of choice and remind myself that the Ti Super would've been €200 more and the 4080 Super would've been €400 more. :)

[@tontsar91]

I would say its the other way around. Even though Super TI costs quite a lot more than Super it has 16 GB VRAM instead of 12 which can make a huge difference especially in games like Cyberpunk with high res texture mods.

[@AlexanderMichelson]

You are a Tech legend, Sir! God bless!

[@ThreaT650]

It's so hard to watch these benchmarks and reviews and stuff while being totally priced out of the market lmao. It's invaluable for so many reasons though. Love the content, keep up the good work! I feel like your audience target is definitely younger folks kind of getting into the tech and performance side of PC gaming, etc. We talk about 4K gaming and I mean the panels alone are pricey, and nobody wants to go budget on a 4K monitor. If people aren't gaming in 4K they really don't need these GPUs. Also the fact that you have to fork out this kind of money on current gen GPUs just to be able to get AV1 encoding options makes me wanna cry.

[@GamingOn1999]

So i want to ask if i have budget which should i go for ? 4070ti super or 4080 super

[@LordDankChristheFirst]

I actually got an OC version of 4070 Ti Super at MSRP and I'm getting 24.6k-ish performance in Cinebench 2024, compared to 26k in the 4080. What I mean to say is it's really close and the difference isn't that much for it to be worth it. Also, atm in my country they're out of stock, but the 4080 Super was like 35% more expensive. Totally not worth.

[@mattvmani]

this eas very helpful. Thanking God I just picked up a 4070 TI Super open box for under $650. I just hope it works :) but 12-20% best case scenario. . . the 4080 fails to match price to performance let alone paying under $700 for the card. The fact they're bumping up the AIB prices makes it really a tough sell and for next to unnoticable FPS gains. Going from 60 to 75fps is a real whatever when its hundredgs of dollars of a difference.

[@theprophet2444]

Ever since I've seen your first video I was able to calculate percentages in an easy way, when comparing a value to another. Before I was getting the same results but with a more cumbersome way of calculation. (the way I learned it in school)

[@garyarg]

Hey, I loved your math "tangent". Come for the GPU comparison - stay for the math education 😂 I think it was really great that you coached people through the thought process with an accessible real world example, visual aids, and a clear explanation. I think a common refrain is "I don't need to know math! It won't impact my day-to-day life, and the calculator can take care of it!!" However, as you showed here, not having a foundation in math leads to flawed decision making that hurts your bank account. Also, you showed that a calculator on its own is no substitute for actual thinking and understanding. Keep up the great work!

[@Neonmirrorblack]

You would need to be playing either with VRR or with V-Sync off when using the 4070 Ti, or you're going to notice every time you drop below 60fps, which would happen more often than with the 4080. VRR is pretty common nowadays, so there's a high chance someone spending money on these cards will have it from one source, but not everyone will.

[@williamminnaar6311]

Hello there - I am about to buy either - the Asus ROG STRIX 4070 Ti - OR the Zoltech 4080 Ti - The price different is not vast, but I LOVE Asus cards - would you trust the Zoltech card over the Asus STRIX card? Thank you

[@fayis4everlove]

for a $1k GPU that can't do 60 fps in 4k ... Developers should do better.

[@robertopazsoldan9641]

7900xtx can do 60fps 4k without any scaling

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

You need to remember that ultimate settings include things like AA, SSxx, and so on. Many of these things can be disabled for additional performance, and at 4K, I personally don't even see a difference unless I pull out a magnifying glass and start examining the pixels. Even my poor 1080 does very well at 4K, and the 4070 Ti Super would offer me double the performance. As it is, I can get 40-60 FPS out of the titles I run at max detail at 4K. You can say I'm lying, but I'm not. I have been running 4K on this rig since 2017, and is the reason I still have a 1080 today. I'm only looking at upgrading as I need more VRAM. 8 Gb just isn't enough anymore.

[@BOLDBANGER]

the 4070 ti s is $800

[@FLASH-uz6qi]

It's on purpose

[@dawnpatrolgolf]

Here we are a couple of weeks after your post. Attempted to purchase a 4080 Super online which showed I was able to add to cart but by the time I went to checkout, it was gone. Basically I'll be using this with golf simulation software. Kinda clueless about this but I can't imagine the graphic detail would come anywhere close to what you are seeing with so many different objects in games (I don't play games by the way). So, after watching this video, I think even if I wanted to be able to play in 4K, a 4070 TI Super, 4800, or 4800 Super should suit me fine so long as I'm able to find a decent (around MSRP) price. Agreed?

[@stever7638]

Haha...a THOUSAND DOLLAR GPU can only muster 47 FPS. THINK ABOUT THAT! 30:07 Then some pay up to $1200 for that same card. If that doesn't spell out RIPOFF......then I don't know what does and I can't help you save your money.

[@ManBruno2]

Should I go for the 4080 super if the pric diff is only 100$?

[@michaelthompson9798]

14:25 I was sooooooo looking forward to “69 nice😉” in those comments 😢

[@danielowentech]

I will do better in the future. I'm sorry to have disappointed you.

[@Neonmirrorblack]

This isn't Davie504's channel. 😛

[@ANDREWKARELIN]

@@Neonmirrorblack 399$

[@michaelthompson9798]

@@danielowentech all good 🤣😂👍my good sir

[@windfire5380]

I work at a major tech company, smart people, and many do not understand the math reality you describe without explaining it to them. :) Good explanation. I wonder if why people are so bad at this is because so much advertising and manipulating of statistics occurs that some don't even try to understand.

[@krixtorei]

Honestly sad that you had to provide a math class in a graphics card review vid but the amount of bullshit-posting going on in tech review comment sections as of late is astounding, not just under your vids alone. You'd think people this interested in tech, charts, graphs, performance, value comparisons and so on would know not to fall into basic-level math traps.

[@L3X369]

This type of video is the best kind of comparison between two cards!

[@DelightfulHubris]

Thank you for the indepth video about this. I was torn between the two cards and settled on the ti super. the 4080 over here was $700 more expensive.

[@niebuhr6197]

Imagine having to explain percentages in your video cuz some eggperts cant even handle middle school level division smh

[@paradoxicalcat7173]

It's a sad world.

[@jay-rus4437]

I built a new Flight Sim PC last year. Installed a 4070, and am already considering upgrading to the 4070 ti super if I can catch it on sale. Flight sim is brutal on hardware.

[@KevinLikesRTS]

Got a xtx for 950. Disappointed in amd for not competing better but I can’t in good faith grab a 4080 super when some games at 4k already use 16 gb vram.

[@DenverStarkey]

not a bad choice .. sure no dlss but FSR has come along way , and the xtx is not bad at RT , it can match (and occasionally beat ) a 3090 at RT , and 3090's are stil considered valid 4k cards.

[@AbrahamZX1]

No game has used 16Gbs of VRAM? What are you on? Not even with all the Nvidia AI features running, which do consume quite some VRAM, especially DLSS3. The most I've seen consumed is 14Gbs with everything enabled in Cyberpunk 2077 and path tracing.

[@SToad]

While I think it's disgusting how my old 1080ti has 11GB and that's a card from 7 years ago, and how NVIDIA is so cheap to not include 16 GB, I tend to agree that at this point it doesn't matter much, also people think that having 16GB will magically make them future proof. Like some people legitimately ask if it's worth getting a 4060ti with 16 GB vs some higher end card, they think the 16 GB will magically make games run faster in the future. If it's a low end card right now, it will be even worse in the future, no 16 GB is going to save it.@@AbrahamZX1

[@KevinLikesRTS]

@@AbrahamZX1 look at avatar haha. Plus re4 has the option to use up to 16. I’m not on anything. I just speak facts. Relax.

[@DenverStarkey]

@@AbrahamZX1 at maximum visual settings the newer RE games claim to eat up 15.7 , and they will crash to desk top if you only have 12gb card or lower when cranking their settings , yet oddly they don't even offer path tracing just standard RT.

[@Larvik74]

I'm glad I bought the RTX 4070 TI Super over the 4080 Super at 50% less price but then at 20% less utilization. I totally agree with your calculation.

[@raiden_131]

10 fps diff = 200€

[@yeahk241]

Hey teach, I'd find it very useful if you put up graphs at the end, summating the findings of the testing while you go through your conclusion.

[@Mr11ESSE111]

and the winner are 7900xt for under 700$ and 7900xtx for 929$ on amazon is not bad too

[@asimplelifewoodworking8318]

It is a game changer for, sure. The quality of graphics settings to play super high demanding games. The ASUS Tuf 4070 ti super is an awesome gpu. You will be happy with your 4070 ti, I think it will hold up for many years to come.

[@LiLBitsDK]

don't run on ultra. go one step down and get 30-40% more performance in most titles... simple... most can't see the difference anyways other than the fps number being worse for little to no upgrade in quality

[@MrTeabag55]

Should I go for 9800x3d With 4070 TISup, or 9900x with 4080 Super, for $100 more on 2nd set.

[@charlessmith9369]

What res?

[@MrTeabag55]

@charlessmith9369 4k msfs2024. Already purchased 9900x with 4080 super to replace my 12 y old computer. Believe or not, my intdrnet speed has increase by quite a bit even though it is the same CAT6a cable???? Unfortumately after playing my ROM game on supernintendo ( emulator) my graphic are exactly the same as my old computer. 4080 super not worth imo.

[@Xx-Anwar-xX]

0:52 all you need to see to realize that nvidia is overpriced garbage . imagine spending almost 2k on a graphic card and still cant run games on 4k max settings lol . its a joke . the games arent even that fun any more and most still play old games that can run on gtx 10 serries graphic cards .

[@maddhatter0]

I bought a 4070 ti super and a 1440p 165hz monitor for what I could find the cheapest 4080 super for. I’m jumping up from a 2070 super and 1080p 144hz and I’m so excited for it!

[@sjbFX]

Would you say the results are the same for PCVR? Trying to decide between the two. Mainly using it for iRacing on Quest 3.

[@KingdomUploader]

Are both of these cards geared towards gaming in 4K?

[@Dex4Sure]

I for one have no regrets buying 4070 Ti early last year. VRAM argument doesn't matter to me, because I'll upgrade every gen. 5070 Ti next most likely.

[@ezoez7548]

Buy it from new egg or microxentwr so u xan trade in to not loose much money :0

[@branzeegaming6458]

Its crazy how perspective changed when you are comparing the 4070 Super to the 4070 Ti Super to the 4080 Super. The 4070 Ti Super seems like the balanced choice for price and future proofing i dunno