RTX 4080 vs RTX 4090 - Is RTX 4090 Laptop Worth More $$$?

[@ilhanbayramoglu2811]

4080 laptop is basically matching my 300w undervolted/underclocked 3080ti. Awesome efficiency improvements but nvidia is greedy, so its sad.

[@fourtysevenak]

Yep ! the same there ,my Xmg Neo16 with 4080 performs on same level like my Desktop 12600K and 3080Ti :)

[@Smart_boy2001]

Unfortunately AMD left the laptop techs

[@GewelReal]

It is 4070Ti-ish afterall on desktop

[@rob465]

Tried 4080 Razer 16' was not performing near my 3080ti desktop. However, my 4090 Legion 7 Pro is lapping my PC.

[@one_step_sideways]

Simply goes to show how garbage and inefficient Samsung's 8nm process was

[@JoshCravesTech]

With how sad the 4060/4070 performance is in comparison, it seems pretty clear that while the 4080 is still pretty expensive, it definitely offers the most bang for your buck this generation.

[@sunnyjiang6245]

Yes, but the price difference is also huge

[@salzstange6341]

Expensive af but I took it and got the XMG neo 16. it’s awesome

[@JoshCravesTech]

@@sunnyjiang6245 yeah it’s annoying. I just hope next generation there’s a 4070 Ti that bridges that gap between performance and price

[@jako997]

True but I think it depends tbh. For instance, if buy a laptop with a 4070 but only game at 1080p, then it's worth it tbh. But if you want to go 1440p and 4k then yes the 4060 and 4070 are useless. Better go for 4080 at that point. 4090 is honestly a ripoff if anything

[@bhold7197]

i mean you can buy 4080 laptops for 2200 to 2500 dollars that is actually less than some of the more expensive 4070 laptops and isn't that much more than some of the cheapest 4070 laptops.

[@mohammedakeel7189]

It's either the 4060 or the 4080 for this gen of gaming laptops. The 4050, 4070 and the 4090 are way too expensive for what they offer on the table.

[@southlondontransport]

I have to agree with you on that but personally speaking the RTX 4050 has come down in price its just that its a little impractical with it's 6GB of VRAM.

[@alexanders.4591]

Agreed, but I got my 4070 laptop for the price of a 4060 laptop

[@flyflyfly]

​@@alexanders.4591 same here

[@charlestrudel8308]

@@alexanders.4591 pretty much this. if you already pay ovver 1500 for a laptop with 4060, paying 1800 for the 4070 is probably worthwhile. same thing if same model with 4060 cost 1300 but the 4070 is still below 1500...

[@Tommy-jf6fr]

@@alexanders.4591 Yup, I got 4080 laptop with 4070 price too after waiting 1 year with 13 gen i9

[@Beelzebubz24]

Got a 4080 Legion and it's been running like a dream. The big thing here is that I didn't see any games where the 4090 really made a playable difference, so imo not worth the price bump of an entire new console unless you're using it as a workstation too. Once my 4080 starts showing its age in the coming years I'd probably be happier getting a new machine with the latest and greatest mobile CPU and 16+ gb card rather than hanging on to a several year old machine with a 4090m. We'll see how much the extra 4gigs of VRAM matter in the coming years I suppose ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@cypress2647]

u made the right choice 👍 my guess is you wont notice anything sub-optimal until 2028 and even then it will be fine for a while longer until u choose to upgrade

[@lukenfoci]

I enjoy my 4080 Legion as well - coul dnot justify extra £650 for 4090... It wa smore than a third of what I paid for my laptop.

[@Jona-gs7ye]

Hi, I want to buy this Laptop too (if it’s the legion 7 Pro) But do you have the Intel or the Amd version?

[@Beelzebubz24]

@@Jona-gs7ye Intel version. Been running games at Ultra at 1440p with no problems, can recommend. Laptop was very good to me over the holidays :D

[@MrCougar1825]

Nightngale already using 11.5 to 12gb of vram and the 4080 isn’t a year old yet that’s why I picked the 4090 both are great but Nvidia are scam artist they know what there doing

[@tekeagle2136]

In my opinion, 4090 is not worth it unless you need the extra vram. Then again, 12 vs 16 is not as much as a difference than 8 vs 16 with the 3080 laptop and 3080ti laptop. Edit: When I bought my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7 3080ti during Black Friday 2022 for $3050, I wasn't expecting that the price of the 4090 Lenovo Legion to be $3200 when on sale; the 4090 laptops were rumored to be at least $4000. I am still happy with the one I got. The 16gb VRAM is helpful when running complex 3D animations in Blender and Star Wars Battlefront II (which uses 13gb of VRAM). Runs all games I play at 60fps at maximum settings, but does struggle to run Horizon Zero Dawn at 120fps.

[@unionofslavstanrepublics2317]

Don't forget the 16 GB RTX 3080 mobile either!

[@sownlengoc]

rtx3080 and rtx3080ti is a huge different cuz rtx3080ti has ad103 codename, rtx3080 has ad104 codename like rtx3060ti/3070

[@cameronbosch1213]

That being said, as more gamers become vRAM limited, it can be better for 4k and even 1440p in the future. And some professional applications that use CUDA need LOADS of vRAM.

[@lsp6032]

Bought a 4090 laptop due to having to run multiple android emulators(for farming in a gacha game) and a demanding game at the same time, those emulators combined would eat up multiple GBs of VRAM, 4080m with 12gb may not able to handle such load without causing performance problems in the games I play when I run both at the same time.

[@lsp6032]

I had chosen legion pro 7i with 4090 during the EOFY sale, especially since it was cheaper or at least have similar proce than many 4080 laptops(scar 18 with 4080 and ge78 with 4080 are the examples)

[@HolloVVpoint]

Happy with the blade 16 with the 4080 getting about the same performance as my previous 3090 pc. Not sure why people hate on laptop gaming, it’s come so far and is genuinely a legit alternative if you want to go that way.

[@ToxicatedSins]

Oldschoolers will always hate new stuff. Same in the cars. Same as painters hated photoshop, now photoshopers hate ai generated images... I love how laptops reached awesome results and it is time to jump from desktop to laptop portability

[@Jeckaa84]

Because the haters can’t afford stuff like this. It’s hate out of jealousy.

[@warrenlee6847]

would u have likes to get the 4090 mini led version if u could? i cant decide which to get?

[@isakferm7674]

@@ToxicatedSins old things = good, new things = bad. Seeing this mentality in 99% of all people sadly. It's an idea in psychology that people view things in their youth more favourably. Just robot behaviour.

[@ToxicatedSins]

Btw got a laptop 4070, never been happier after getting a gadget. Always loved desktops and been assembling them since old good pentium II times. But I dont want to be locked on the desk again after work and I lack a dedicated space. If these factors werent here I wouldnt try it and wouldnt find out how awesome lenovo legion is. I enjoy gaming on it every time and it is an awesome time to live from the technology perspective.

[@aaz1992]

I upgraded from a 3080 laptop to the Aorus 17H with the 4080. It was on sale for just $1990. What an amazing package! The 4090 laptops made no sense as they were all at least $1000 more

[@Cenot4ph]

no, they're about 500 bucks more expensive on the whole

[@aaz1992]

@@Cenot4ph That was back in March. The sales now are more attractive for sure

[@TrashFilter]

@@aaz1992Bro, I even saw someone selling legion 7 pro rtx 4090 on ebay for about 1530 euros and it was like new. Craziest deal I have ever seen.

[@joshuam4993]

I got mine for 2199. You think that's alright?

[@aaz1992]

@@joshuam4993 yeah! Enjoy it

[@ElBandito_Gaming]

Hi Jarrod! Your videos saved me a lot of money so far! (Still rocking the HP OMEN 15 2020 - "cold as ice") Thanks for your work!

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad to help!

[@MadanSingh-pe7ku]

​@@JarrodsTechSir please suggest me whether i should buy a 3070ti with 150 watt tgp or 4050 with 140w tgp Please help sir Huge Fan

[@ElBandito_Gaming]

@@MadanSingh-pe7ku 3070ti 150W for sure if you do not need the DLSS3.

[@derikbarbieri8753]

@@MadanSingh-pe7ku3070ti if you don’t have a huge desire for frame gen or DLSS3 like he said. 3070ti will outperform in most circumstances at full TGP

[@Ильнур-ц1о]

@@MadanSingh-pe7ku Берите 3070ti, она лучше во всем! Я очень сомневаюсь, что 4050 с DLLS3 вытащит в 2К игры, лучше чем 3070ti! 4050 (140w) замена 3060 (140w), если 4050 будет ниже 140w, то 3060(140w) уделает 4050! 4050(140w) хорошо подойдёт для FHD игр, 3070ti (150w) для 2К! На этом же канале есть сравнение 4070&3070ti, так вот в 1% прирост в сторону 4070, это полная шляпа! Конкурент 3070ti это 3080ti и то 15-20%! И значительный прирост 4080 и Всё!!! Через 2года перейдёте на 4080 и будет Вам счастья. Ноутбуки подешевеют. Так как будет линейки с 50серии. Или 4060(140w) для FHD в большенстве случаи и DLLS3 для 2К в некоторых!

[@linhentus7327]

At this point, I can surely state that this 40 series generation is basically a test from Nvidia to see if they can get more money by selling upper high end graphics cards with better price/performance than their lesser low end cards with significant price bumps. If people keep buying their higher end due to p/p number then they just started a new trend and soon will become a new norms for the market. All of their low and mid tier cards now can only be described as decoys. And the number doesn’t have to be a huge hit for them to execute this plan. All they need is a stable enough number and they’ll keep doing it and telling other gaming developers to increase their graphic requirements every year to match their high end cards so that you’ll have to purchase it just to get a 60 fps experience.

[@ogmogly8118]

Game developers can’t do that because they have to meet minimum console requirements, and developers have zero incentive to make games that are less accessible to people, because they need to actually sell those games.

[@mobgamerred8555]

@@ogmogly8118 agreed

[@HoodHussler]

I thought the difference in performance was at least going to be 20% in 1440p but what a disappointment plus it’s way more expensive than the 4080

[@1415gatewayable]

Not all laptops are the same and he seems to have a problem with that laptop with the 4090 it's still way better than the 4080 in my opinion for what I wanted for

[@HoodHussler]

@@1415gatewayable maybe I need to check the Asus Scar 18 or the Alienware m18

[@howiepince3910]

I went from a Alienware r5 with a 3070 to a x16 with a 4080 and are pushing nearly twice the frame rates overall. Keep in mind the gap in time was only 1 year in the models. Glad I seen this video and see that a upgrade to the 4090 from a 4080 just isnt worth the cost for 90% of gamers. Loving this new x16 that I bought on marketplace being only a couple months old with a full warranty for $1900! Games even at 5120x1440 on my Samsung G9 ultrawide place smooth as glass!

[@hab1b1]

can you link me to exactly what you bought?

[@Demour77]

Would love to hear what store you found it at : )?

[@joffy9373]

On a scale from 1-10, how happy are you with it? what are the cons fo far? I am so torn between picking the x16 for a sleeker and smaller laptop or the scar 18 which seems to "have it all". Honestly the beiggest complaint I hear is the screen, is it that bad?

[@hab1b1]

i know someone who got the 4080 alienware m version, works great@@joffy9373

[@Diablokiller999]

3:00 it's all physics, since Powerconsumption of transistors = frequency * Voltage² + C. So higher frequency at the same voltage leads to more powerconsumption, hence the 4080 draws more power in general for the same task, while the 4090 can spread the workload on more units that run slower. And that's why undervolting a tiny bit gives you huge boosts in temperature, noise and longer boost durations, since it's squared in the equation. Hope all people reading this consider to slightly undervolt their GPUs - I reduced my mobile 3080 to 925mV @ 1900MHz and reach desktop clocks with 100W less power consumption than the desktop chip of my card (3070 Ti) at nearly the performance for just 1hr of work.

[@rohanj6362]

Amazing review!!! Best one to date. The highlights on each bar graph and the pacing and amount of testing is great. Good accessibility also. I was waiting for this review also between these two mobile GPUs. Recently had to send my Lenovo 4080 to be fixed as it’s thermal throttling on just high settings, 1440 on balanced.

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@GatoPaint]

sicke! cant go back I’ve already spent money 😂💀 waiting on my legion pro 7i with 4090 I got it with a 300 usd discount 🎉

[@greebj]

FYI. Legion 7i Pro is a +$1300 AUD upgrade from 4080 (~$4K discounted) to 4090 on a custom build, which is insane. There is also the recently released Eluktronics 16" Prometheus which is the chassis as the Mech 16 GP2 (which is the same Uniwill/Tongfang chassis in the XMG), minus a few features and about $500 USD off the price, with 51M-ish white styling

[@danielwallace9153]

The price percentage increase against performance percentage increase comparison doesn't work for laptops since the total price of a laptop encompasses many things which do not directly affect performance

[@swiftskill3046]

RTX 4080 best choise. Video cards in frames per second are very similar, with the 4090 model having only an 8% difference, which is not significant. It is not worth overpaying for the 4090

[@CarnivoryHODL]

4080’s where it’s at price to performance-wise

[@michaelwesten4624]

at what? u mad?

[@jedimojojojo1603]

​@@michaelwesten4624mad at what? Where did that come from?

[@bhold7197]

I just got the asus rog strix 18" 1440p 240hz 4080 i9 13980hx and it is a monster. and it was "only" 2500, which is a lot but is actually surprisingly cheap considering most 4090 laptops are 4000.

[@jeremymatthew6626]

Yeah thats a really solid laptop for the money

[@meshlol]

B&H photo is selling the lenovo legion with the 13900h and the 4090 for $2699

[@bhold7197]

@Joseph Maxwell ya i needed the 18" screen though and there aren't any 4090 laptops with an 17.3 or 18 screen that r cheap. also kinda wierd they didn't pair the best i9 with a 4090 but ya for 200 more that is a pretty good deal

[@meshlol]

@@bhold7197 I'm using a 34" ultrawide as my main monitor and the laptop as a second screen, etc.

[@allstargaming2500]

​@@meshlolIf legion pro 7i with 4080/4090 has Mini LED then definitely it is a must buy this year. However Jarrod said lenovo will be adding the Mini LED last year but still they haven't. Also there is a new screen option for Slim 7i gen 8. It would be nice if he reviews it with the new display option.

[@mihirojha4475]

Unfortunately 4080 laptops in my country cost far more than building a 4080 PC, which will destroy it in every thing except portability of course. Sad.

[@Eren-cb2ch]

To be fair buying a laptop isn't the greatest idea when it isn't a must.

[@aminalqadi2k]

I love watching your videos! But what do you mean by “Average” & “1% Low”!?

[@JarrodsTech]

Average is the average FPS the game gets over multiple benchmark or in game runs. 1% low is a way of showing the dips in performance, this video explains it well: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ome6mJWcfMStY80

[@romanbellic810]

Since the 4090 mobile is comparable to the 4070 Ti desktop in performance, does this mean the 4080 mobile is comparable to a 4070 desktop (non-Ti)?

[@fourtysevenak]

4080 Mobile is on Par with Desktop 3080Ti , 4070 Desktop should be a little bit faster then

[@GewelReal]

​@@fourtysevenak 4070 desktop is usually around 10GB 3080

[@TheMacco26]

Did you eventually test those two configs with their active cooling on? I wonder if the heat spread from the RTX4090 and the CPU could be removed fast enough that way not to throttle the former in those 1080p / 1440p scenarios where the RTX4080 were winning..

[@williammathies2998]

Thanks!

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks for your support!

[@themanwithsauce]

If you really want the RTX4090 performance, consider waiting for a deal on HP's omen 17. I had a brand new laptop, shipped to my door, for around 2600$ after all the discounts. COnsidering how many manufacturers I've seen only ship 4070s, let alone 4080-s in that price range, you can't go wrong if you're a few generations back and looking to upgrade.

[@Cenot4ph]

i see so few people considering after market service, while pretty much all laptops i've owned needed 1 or more servicing rounds. On-site is pretty much a necessity in my book

[@sh9683]

Hp is crap so pass.

[@SystemShock0451]

Wow. Cazy amount of detail put into this. Thanks for all the info.

[@MusicHavenSG]

Frankly the 4080 Mobile is already more than enough for today's games at least for years to come. If the game does stutter, just down the settings or resolution.

[@jeremymatthew6626]

I have an msi titan gt77 with a 4080 in it. On release, the 4090 was marked up an additional 500 dollars on most retailers from MSRP or close to $1500 total. Nice to know I’m only missing out on about 9 frames in most games I play, given that 4k on both GPUs are going to most likely not be played without DLSS or some settings dialed down. I connect to a 1440p higher refresh screen at home anyway. Which I still think is the sweet spot for laptops for a while. I think the 4090 isn’t worth it for most people. It is probably worth it if you are getting a cheaper model than the msi titan - and don’t care about micro LED screens, mechanical keyboards, and the massive cooling solutions some of these laptops offer at the higher price tag. Thanks for the vid!

[@jeremymatthew6626]

With that said a 4080 over a 4070 is massively more worth it! It seems like the wins for this gen are the 4080 on the top end and 4060 on the mid tier in performance leaps.

[@jeremymatthew6626]

@@elsquama Probably not. Unless they're like me and constantly need mobility. If I was home more I would invest said money into a desktop.

[@Burn_In_Oled_On_Purpose]

​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​@@elsquama I need more than 12gb of vram so the 4090 is something that I would be getting since I'm already gaming with ray tracing in native 4k with hdr on, v sync off and motion blur off, unlimited fps if it's available in the game and dlss off. I cranked the graphics to there highest settings while using as much vram as possible for every game that I play lol. If there was a mod to force a game to have ray tracing even if the game never had ray tracing I would apply ray tracing every time. I really hope more games use unreal engine 5 but have the graphics intensity of crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode. Crysis remastered with can it run crysis mode in every graphics settings as my reference when I game in 4k with rtx enable, dlss turned off as well and experimental rtx boost enabled. I really hope new games looks exactly visual fidelity and quality like the gran turismo movie in native 4k with hdr, dolby vision and ray tracing. If more games has a graphics settings can it run crysis mode, I would enable it every time. I love 4k and high fidelity visuals when gaming and watching movies. I wonder how the games would look like with 4k with ar and vr without needing a headset like 3d tvs without needing the 3d glasses but with vr and ar instead. Like headset less version of ar and vr but in 4k when gaming and ray tracing. Like it would feel like you in the space suit and you are on mars but you are gaming in 4k instead without needing to use a vr and ar headset since it would a version that does not need a headset to play games in ar and vr since its headset less version. You basically just need a 4k tv and very powerful pc to make the game feel like you are actually part of the game and you can interact and be part of the action happening in the game. For example, when someone is passing a basketball in a game and the basketball pops up on the screen, you feel like you are actually touching the basketball and you just wanna grab the basketball and shoot the basketball. It would be like 4k realism mode like having motion activated sensors built in a pc or 4k tv. You would be making the mimicking the motions of a game and than the actions happen in real time but in a video game settings. I'm leaning towards the eon-17x gaming laptop since it has the Intel i9-11900k desktop cpu in it with 4 nvme ssd slots and a removable battery with 2 power bricks with each power brick being 280 watts each. I just wish the eon-17x has a 4k mini led display with 1,000 nits and a 4090 while having an updated Intel i9-13900k desktop cpu instead of the Intel i9-11900k desktop cpu for using msi afterburner. The only thing that I like about the msi gt77 titan is the 4k mini led display but the lack of a desktop cpu is what I'm after on a gaming laptop.

[@greebj]

yeah but still, a 4090 in many other models is still less than GT77 4080 and all the cooling in the world can't fix the crippled TGP and board limits that prevent enthusiasts from getting enthusiastic and extracting maximum performance out of the hardware

[@1415gatewayable]

I'm sorry that you went with the 4080 the 4090s clearly better especially for long-term I honestly think you made a huge mistake especially with that beautiful laptop screen definitely made for playing in 4k. Remember not all laptops are the same but the GT MSI is the best. And I don't know where you're getting only 9% difference maybe in the games that you play specifically

[@dsamurai3585]

It's a pity i had to do this piecemeal by myself when i was buying my legion 4080. Glad i made the right choice. Thanks Jarrod.

[@willia451]

Good video. And timely since I'm shopping for a high end gaming laptop right now. For me. The extra 4GB of VRAM is worth paying extra for the 4090. I don't want to be doing this again anytime soon.

[@joshuam4993]

That's why I got the 4090 for 2199 bucks. 16gb let's me stretch my legs. I can almost max everything out especially textures and not worry

[@dignifiedgamer]

​@@joshuam4993bro which model of laptop you got for 2199 bucks and what are your laptop specs and where did you get from? Is it a black friday deal, if so where did you buy?

[@ctsperformance1755]

my 4090 XMG Laptop reaches 24.5k casually in Timespy graphics, clocking at 2610 Mhz. Crazy machine.

[@theguard1]

Pretty much what I figured (based on the differences between 3070Ti and 3080Ti last year). Glad I went with the 4080 Legion Pro 7i!

[@tkirk3660]

Are you enjoying that laptop? I have my eyes on one but I've always had ROG

[@theguard1]

@tkirk3660 yes it fantastic! Wish it still had a fingerprint reader like previously but the screen is better and performance is phenomenal

[@bobocop69420]

Still holding up well? Kinda torn between that and the 4090. Those Legion laptops look sick spec wise. @@theguard1

[@theguard1]

@@bobocop69420 yup! Make sure you undervolt (I have a light one going with -111mV on the P-cores and -94mV on the E-cores and it doesn't exceed 87C). Performance jumps way up too! All in all, this is a fantastic laptop and still love it

[@NoobieNetcode]

i got a Lenovo legion pro 7 gen 8 4090 for £2.6k quite happy with it :)

[@gmiblessed]

31% more cores for 15% more performance. How does that compare to Ampere scaling wise?

[@DeepteshLovesTECH]

175W is not enough for the 4090 mobile (4080 desktop with G6 memory).

[@justsam100]

​@@DeepteshLovesTECHCorrect, it's not a gpu problem, it's a power package problem. You could feed it more energy but you would need to turn a laptop into a veritable brick to cool it down enough.

[@tkirk3660]

I'm upgrading, currently have a 3060, main reason is to edit/upload drone and other footage. Also will be gaming on it, can't decide on 80 or 90

[@niebuhr6197]

Imo it's a waste, 4090m is just an experiment. This chip should be 200w of board power to be balanced and deliver a worthy step over 4080m. Hopefully in 2024

[@fourtysevenak]

Nvidia will place a TI behind the name , generate much profit with our idea and you´ll get nothing :) Jenssen , Take Over :)

[@doganaydogan1178]

@3:58 Have I heard correctly? Are these results withous DLSS or FG ON? Raw performance?

[@mykytavlasov291]

Just looking for this type of vid few hour ago, thx!

[@Espada_no_4]

4080 is perfectly fine for 1440p anything maxed everywhere. For 2160p even 4090 isn't an optimal solution. This makes 4090 an useless GPU.

[@lil_brumski]

"a useless" not "an useless" lol

[@MRALEX9870]

yeah the more expensive and more powerful gpu is useless 😂😂

[@chriswhite6546]

I essentially agree with this. 4K gaming on a laptop, even a 4090 one, is massively sub-optimal. 4080 will generally perform well enough for 1440p gaming.

[@npip99]

2:28 You should really have this graph be with VSYNC or something. Something's wrong. the 4090 was more efficient than the 4080, yet has less battery life. Doesn't make sense.

[@CouchMarine42]

I bought a strix g18 with a 4080. I was having a little buyers remorse, and was considering returning it and shelling out the extra money for the 4090 which would be more than $1,000. Glad I came across your video, $1,000 to get 10%. More performance is not worth it at all

[@Obie327]

Exactly my thoughts on this. I recently got MSI Raider E78 HX with the RTX 4080 on sale. (17 inch model) 32 gigs of DDR5 5600 and 2 terabyte m.2 storage. I remember hearing that the 4090 model was power and heat limited in most chassis. I run a 2k display and it's perfect with the RTX 4080 and 24 core 32 thread Intel 13050HX CPU.

[@joshuam4993]

I agree not worth 1k. I got my Lenovo 4090 for 2199 though. Which is only 200 more than most current 4080 deals so I don't feel too bad

[@GenjiMain-z7u]

Lenovo legion pro 7i i9? Or 8th generation? ​@@joshuam4993

[@petersonr3320]

Hey, can you compare the 165hz displays of the legion 5 pro and the legion pro 5. The brightness seems to be different but is it the same panel with a diff backlight or is it a completely diff panel (with diff resp. times and diff color accuracy)

[@wz-fv2ix]

Wtf legion 5 pro and legion pro 5. 😂😄

[@archerjay2267]

@@wz-fv2ix 2022 vs 2023, looks funny 😅 but lenovo really did that

[@JarrodsTech]

Any testing on displays I've had in laptops can be found on my website: jarrods.tech/list-of-laptop-response-times/

[@mehmetgurdal]

I think 4090 makes sense if you are interested in holding on to your device for more than 6 years and want the absolute best performance. This is probably not going to be the gaming. And content creation is good with 4080. 4090 is the spearhead of the performance and good choice for a very small niche. 4080 is however a good choice; both if you are interested in good performance or want your device to hold on its value on 2 years down the line.

[@ACE112ACE112]

problem is it's gonna have relatively bad performance compated to stuff that comes out 3-4 years from now

[@mehmetgurdal]

@@ACE112ACE112 Isnt this the problem with basically every GPU? I mean a person who bought an RTX2080 super laptop had a great time gaming since last 4 years, those laptops had the best IPS panels that was available in 2018-19. its it worth it? he probably had a sigh when he saw the rtx 3060 but this still doesnt change the fact that he had one of the best performing and looking laptops, again brands like asus had payed extra attention to user experience with 2080 laptops. using a machine like that for 4 years would add something beneficial for the user regardless of the performance 4 years later. 4090 probabşy will offer something similar to the user.

[@Cenot4ph]

the issue is vram, 12gb on the 4080 could already bottle neck you in 2 years time which is very quick for a laptop to get replaced imo.

[@lefton_open15]

4070 the same thing

[@focusmicro]

4090 laptop is sooo much different to a desktop 4090, its criminal to call is a 4090 in a laptop.

[@alvinamana1459]

I agree if you gonna have a 4090 it's gotta be in a desktop. 4080 is max at a laptop level where you do actually get bang for your buck but after that it belongs in a rig

[@nemesis7884]

i double my laptop as a console for my 4k tv so a 4090 is great, besides i got my 4090 laptop in a sale for 3100 so not more expensice than a 4080 one ^^

[@dhruvchauhan382]

Please also do laptop gpu comparison of 4060 vs 4070 4060 vs 3070ti

[@fourtysevenak]

its Easy , mobile 3070TI is better than 4060 and 4070 Mobile , and its a lot cheaper

[@Smart_boy2001]

​@@fourtysevenakyou forgot FG!!

[@sempoisaja-i6c]

4090m capped heavily by the power limit, u get more fps just by a small core and memory offset

[@lukakapanadze6179]

We need 250W GPU only power envelope with the liquid cooling option. Don't see the dock as being worth it if it has the same max TDP.

[@allstargaming2500]

​@AmpEditionThat's entirely true. I don't get it when people buy extra monitors just to get extra performance. It defeats the purpose of laptops, Honestly above $2500 Desktop is the way to go as it blows away the performance of these tiny laptops(compared to desktop, laptops are so small)

[@howiepince3910]

Portability is valuable to some gamers like myself who travel alot.

[@prateekgupta7544]

Jarrod can you tell which is better, MSI GF63 4050 vs 4060 (125 dollars hike, tdp 45W)? in my country only these 2 models available

[@parabellum8506]

Been watching your channel for years. Thank you for the years of valuable info! 🙏

[@ravta_ette6192]

I really love your reviews. But it would be even more amazing if more videos focused more on real time render tests with various software for the creators as well ,since nowadays even an RTX 4050 or 4060 can let anyone game comfortably 😔😪😢.

[@preetomsahaarko8145]

Please make a detailed review of ASUS ROG Zephyrus G14 (2023), mainly of the most popular model having RTX 4060 GPU.

[@JarrodsTech]

Planning on it. I should finally have one arriving soon.

[@PeterKallio]

During Black Friday, the cheapest RTX 4090 was still EUR 3000 compared to EUR 2100 for RTX 4080. Each country has different situation for retail availability though. During this economic situation, I don't expect retailers to make a lot of price cuts as compared to job cuts where applicable.

[@Krenisphia]

Both of these laptops crushes my full desktop rig from 3 years ago.

[@anthonyarkadia9760]

I just purchased the Legion Pro 9i fully maxed out and I love the hell out of this thing. I bought it from B&H Photo, it was a custom order and the buyer backed out so I got it on sale price for only $4300. Let me tell you, this lappy moves along very nicely. I wasn't really looking to buy a new laptop either, but when i.seen the deal I had to grab it!

[@GringoEpicGaming]

Hello I have a little problem with choosing what will be better Lenovo Legion Pro 5-16 i5-13500HX 4060140w vs Laptop LENOVO LOQ i5-13500H card 115w. or maybe there is something else to think about ? :) Thank you for your answer

[@thiagoalbertins]

A comparison between 4060 and 4070 would be great!

[@tntbuffalogaming]

THIS!

[@kalaichelvan]

It's about the same difference between the 4080 and 4090 10-15%

[@GewelReal]

same vram. save money and get 4060

[@Mu-zw5bm]

​@@GewelRealEven if the difference is "only" 150usd?

[@youngheart777]

@@kalaichelvanyou are pushing it 5-10%max !!! Even in the best conditions if the 4070 had 10gb ram ok but 8tb nono . Simply save the money those 5-10 fps wont matter for the price increase !!!

[@Flip89]

Do you think the lenovo pro 7i is worth it with the 4090 or should i just get the 4080 model or a completely different laptop

[@earthtojazz]

What did u end up getting because I’m trying to decide and the 4090 is about 1000 usd more which is insane….

[@petrkupka2372]

I like what you are doing, those comparisons are really helpful, I am only missing OLED Gaming. It is nice to have FPS, but if the picture/game looks shitty...the best would be to take the Zephyrus G14s - ROG and PRO with 4070, they both have amazing screens, but each is different and might have a diff. perf. due to diff. cooling systems.

[@solsky6595]

Here with Aorus 17X with 4080 12GB VRAM. IT IS the problem already. For Ratchet and Clank - very high textures causes intensive stuttering. loweeing just to high resolves all issues. Desktop 4090 allocated 16/24 vram easy and is super smooth. Its not a new game already. It will get even worse later in 2024. Outstanding notebook review channel, thanks!

[@greebj]

I see two benefits only from the 4090 that make ~20% higher price really bad value. - Extra 4Gb VRAM - speculative 'futureproofing' of unknown benefit in future titles - Higher efficiency that is really asking for higher power limits (via a shunt mod) to extract performance closer to what chip is capable of...

[@joshuam4993]

Can you tell me more about the higher efficiency, shunt mod and getting peformance it is capable of?

[@EncikBeruang8698]

Hi Jarrod, can you do a review on Acer predator 18 with RTX 4080? the pricing is so tempting. but would love to see how is the performance compared to others. Would appreciate if you are able to do a review on this laptop. Thanks!

[@poidem_domoi]

sad that you didnt try to do the test in blender, cinebench and davinci for examle. it would be interesting, what would happen there. btw, dont you think it would be nice to make test in Unreal Engine 5 when comparing laptops? I guess it would be an interesting test!!

[@tsunderry7398]

The only reason I care about 4080 vs. 4090 is because I want a mini led screen. It's so annoying that Asus only provides it with the 4090 zephyrus when the 2023 m16 gets it with both the 4080 version and 4090, and the 4080 g14 gets the stupid animetrix :/

[@tsunderry7398]

I have learned that luckily, the 4080 version of the M16 is literally the same as the 4090

[@cypress2647]

mini led on a 14 inch screen is worthless, if ur gonna do serious gaming ur gonna do it on a proper monitor anyways (which also doesnt need mini led either) at least anime matrix is cool and unique. I specifically got the 4080 version for that because the mini led is worthless to me. Why do I want the 'best' screen I own to be a 14 inch laptop screen? If I cared that much Id have an oled tv by now or a mini led monitor for my desk. If anything I want a 4090 version with anime matrix and no worthless mini led..

[@goku6986]

Hi @jarrod, as always great video, can you please make similar video for 4070 vs 4080 also. Will be more clear to decide.

[@isaacwolfe5280]

This is off subject a bit but I would be curious to see how performance works with the iets gt500 or gt300 cooler pads. I think these are the best cooling pads at the moment but the comments also say they are the loudest if cranked all the way up.

[@cypress2647]

seems like a lot of sussy accounts/bots saying the gt500 is great, spamming it everywhere basically.. But I personally bought it and tried it and it seems good so far. Its quieter than my room fan which is on 24/7, so I really dont even notice its on.

[@darkentbg]

Im about to buy a new laptop and i had some doubts between the 4090 / 4080 and that new amd option... 4080 is by far supperior to all of em, sure the 4090 got more of everything, but the skip on overclock was very noteworthy. Global average from the video's numbers 4080vs90 for 1% Low - most important for laptops is the stability of lows! 1080p - 99.60% average, 73.88% mininum on Rainbow6 and a 137.35% maximum on A Plague difference to 4090 1440p - 102.05% average, 80.76% minimum on Apex Lagends and a 159.93% maximum on Doom difference to 4090 4k - 98.68% average, 77.75% minimum on Witcher and a 141.93% maximum on Doom difference to 4090 Literally not even a 30% drop for the 4080, while offering significant boosts on certain things.

[@lefton_open15]

4070 is the same

[@ramakrishnamishra8179]

Was waiting for this

[@MafiaBeats1]

I need a laptop for gaming Can you please suggest me which one should i buy? Nitro 5 with rxt 3070 TI or asus strix g15 advantage edition

[@Handheldking]

I love this channel so much and I get even more entertainment the way he says “Baurth” instead of “both” (I’m American lol) I love the accent just as much as the videos - stay awesome!

[@Keep-It-Calm]

Nice comparison, I was debating after I just put an order in for the Alienware m18 with a 4080 the $600 extra seemed silly to me.. 4080 will do me just fine I think was still so expensive & the wife was already mad about it so asking for a 4090 would give her a heart attack LOL.

[@randomgreatness2298]

Literally the same boat, I think I'm going to go with the 4080 as well

[@Keep-It-Calm]

@@randomgreatness2298 Just got my m18 and runs just fine;) Very fast!

[@charlietuzzolo5387]

I’m getting the m18 it’s priced very well for what it is but I’m gonna do the 4090 as it has 4gbs more vram and the cpu is better too while being only $300 more and at this point I think it may be worth it

[@John-us6cg]

@619civic did you go for the amd or intel version?

[@charlietuzzolo5387]

@TRC_WA I’m selecting the 1tb option and 16 gb of ram and upgrading to 64 cause the ram upgrades from dell are overpriced

[@616lichking]

Is the 4 C difference in temps significant in laptop temp ? Planning to get 4090 over 4080

[@connorburke5761]

This is an incredibly stupid question, but I just want to clarify (in case theres some weird behind-the scenes software issues that prevent this from being true). When using the 4090, I can expect the battery life to be worse, but when I'm in some sort of Hybrid dGPU mode (like on Legions, when you unplug the battery, it has the option to disable the dGPU and only use the iGPU). In this situation, the battery life should be identical, right?

[@JarrodsTech]

Not sure I understand what you're asking. It would be identical if the workload you are doing calls the dGPU, like a game, then it doesn't matter if optimus is on as the dGPU still uses power.

[@connorburke5761]

@@JarrodsTech Wow thank you for replying, I wasn't expecting that. To clarify, when I've disabled the dedicated GPU (4080 or 4090), the battery life between the two laptops with different dedicated GPUs will be the same, right? Since it isn't using the high-power dGPU and relying on integrated graphics and identical CPUs? Like I said, stupid question. Also, out of curiosity, for your battery tests, especially the Legion 9i, (sorry if you mentioned this in the video, I may have missed it) do you run the displays at 60hz for the video playback test, and do you disable the dedicated GPU? Or is it running at a full 240hz and has the dedicated GPU running in the background? Just curious because I'm looking at the 9i and I heard that the display on only that model doesn't auto-switch to 60hz when you unplug it like my Legion 7 does.

[@duncanfirth]

What results did you get for cyberpunk 2077 with dlss and rtx? In 1440p and 4k?

[@omardakar3285]

I've a question Are you saying it you play CPU heavy game then 4080 would out perform 4090?

[@PintaKong]

bought ASUS ROG SCAR18 RTX 4090 + i9-13980HX cost me $4366 usd (Hong Kong official version) 3 years warranty worth it for playing DIABLO 4 with Ultra setting DLSS 3 quality on at 240fps 2560x 1600p CPU & GPU 76 to 80C degree 💻😁 (CPU speed 8 P core mostly running at 5.14Ghz) at Starbucks ☕️ aircon 23C degree totally worth it & super stable 👍🏻

[@mrcontrarian1416]

I have a legion 7i pro with a 4080 incoming as my new salary package this year & I was blown away at the fact my new laptop is faster than my old R5 5600x & 5700 XT pc I built in 2019

[@Jtwizzle]

Why are you blown away? A 4 year old mid range desktop gets beat by a newhigh end laptop?

[@mrcontrarian1416]

@@Jtwizzle shut up nerd

[@remykamermans5544]

4090 is what the 4080 should be. The whole 4000 series seems like Nvidia wants to trick and confuse people. I wonder if the 4080 had 16 gig of vram if the benchmarks would be even more in favor of the 4080.

[@wolfstorm5394]

Nvidia knew exactly what they were doing, there's an ungodly, unnaturally huge performance gap between the 4070 and 4080..i don't think we've ever seen such a huge gap between a 70 class vs 80 class GPU....meanwhile there's this...smh

[@MattGadi]

Thanks for this comparison! I have a question, do you think the 4GB memory difference is worth the expense for durability in the future? I am asking because I have a laptop with 4070 and 8GB memory and I want to upgrade because I always get memory bottleneck playing at 4K, Thanks

[@marius2361]

You mean is the 4080M is better than the 4070M? Because that is what those GPUs should be called.

[@aaz1992]

Nailed it

[@hamidrezakordloo7382]

Hey Jarrod I need your help urgently I have to buy a laptop within the next 3 days for rendering and gaming purposes But I can't make my mind picking one of these : Lenovo Legion pro 5 (2023) i9 13900HX RTX 4060 140W Lenovo Legion pro 5 (2023) R9 7945HX RTX 4060 140W HP Omen 16 pro (2023) i9 13900HX RTX 4070 140W Lenovo Legion 7 (2021) i7 11800H RTX 3080 165W All four have the same price range in my country. But I've heard a lot about the 4060 not worth buying. While browsing the market, I found the HP Omen 16 RTX4070 with a competitive price tag. It's almost the same price as the Lenovo Legion pro 5 RTX 4060 in my country. I don't know anything about Omen 16 performance , build quality and etc. I heard bad things about its build quality . Is it worth buying?? If you were me, which one would you pick?? I appreciate your help.

[@Jtwizzle]

It ended up being around $400 difference 4080 vs 4090 so I just went with 4090. Almost the same cost % difference as performance plus a bonus 4gb vram.

[@Predetermination]

Me too. I returned my 4080 laptop for the 4090, because of the price wasn’t much more and both dropped in price. The vram alone pushed me to upgrade for “future-proofing” (if AI doesn’t eat the pc gaming market), since most new games are becoming more vram hungry. This is most likely due to being unoptimized from the jump so…

[@Jtwizzle]

@Predetermination Nice! Ive been happy with mine so far, no regrets really.

[@lefton_open15]

I’ll get rtx 4070 same thing better than my desktop which is 1650 same with laptop

[@andreabassi5012]

Hi Jarrod, thank you for your invaluable work. Could you do laptop gpu comparison: 3070 vs 4070 and also 4050 vs 4070. Thanks, good job!

[@RayZ_channel]

Thanks for your efforts. very useful.

[@aleksandarzivkovic1950]

Will the 4080 laptop run escape from tarkov of high settings with 60+ FPS? I’m very new to the pc world and want to be able to get the laptop that will best perform for that game.

[@SebastianChaconCarpio-dk7bt]

Can you review the Asus ROG SCAR 16 and it's mini led display and give thoughts on if it's worth having it instead of a 4090? (Legion Pro 7i with 4090 costs less then the SCAR 16 with mini-led and 4080)

[@monstarmedia8869]

Hey I want ask About legion pro 7i 2023, I want use 4TB SSD on second slot M.2, is that compatible for that laptop? I was ask The costumer service of Lenovo before but they said "just follow the recommendation"

[@martinadams1518]

Amazing video thanks!

[@retricsbyfaddyy]

Hey Jarrod, Love your channel buddy Hey I was thinking of you could pull-up the legion pro 5 (Ryzen 9 7945x rtx 4070) With another laptop in the competition. I'm a hard fan of legion, but being a fan shouldn't get you to buy something that underperforms compared to other laptops of the same price. Your comparison might help not just me but a lot of people out. I just hope the latest Legion Pro 5 (Ryzen 9 7945x : RTX 4070 ) stands the best out of other laptops in the price range. Thanks Jarrod Love from Kolkata India

[@howiepince3910]

He has a video comparing the 4070 vs 4080 laptop gpus ans states not to buy a 4070 as the 4080 is like 40% faster overall.

[@helloworld77771]

Have you tested 4080 4090 notebooks windows 11 in VR? I had a predator 18 4090 and it did stutters all the time. Tried the same game on an old predator 17 with a 1070 windows 10 and it was so smooth.

[@nickwee258]

I recently bought a 2023 ASUS G14 4090 despite having my heart set on the 4080 after watching a KZbin vid that justifies it well. It was hard to pass up because there was a price drop of US$200 for the 4080 vs US$500 for the 4090. I decided to go with the 4090 for the better discount even though I knew it was probably overkill.

[@loganjackson3892]

really wish u guys would take the time to test with dlss its only gonna be used in every new gen unreal engine 5 games. Also on a laptop gpu the 4080 and 4090 are the same chip.

[@TechnoLawyer]

I wonder if the 4090 is worth it for the future proofing of more vram.

[@td984]

Futureproofing with the most expensive gpu is a trap for laptops. By the time you require that much vram you are better off putting that much money to a new device.

[@TechnoLawyer]

@@td984 depends I guess? I did end up buying a 4090 laptop on a Black Friday deal, passed my 3060 laptop down to my kid. In a few years, I’ll buy a new laptop again and pass the 4090 laptop down. So, it’ll end up having a long usage life.

[@rui8688]

Will there be a 200w 4090 laptop? this will make the gap bigger.

[@nicolaspaglione]

Unlikely nvidia is probably controlling max tdp’s what’s more likely is Vbios modding on coolers that can take it

[@niktankist9788]

Are there any differences RTX 4080 145W and 175W

[@Alt_Aly]

The asus 4090 has the same specs as the razer 4090 but the asus is hundreds less, is the razer a better brand for quality and reliability?

[@vishwasamukherjee8499]

I was just about to close KZbin but saw your vid and here I am lmao

[@Molotov07]

I search a gaming laptop with rtx 4080 which one would you recommend to me among those Acer Predator Helios 16 (I saw a reduction on the 4080 which makes it cheaper than all the others) Asus Rog Strix Scar 18 Razer Blade 16 (Razer too expensive omg 💀) XMG Neo 16 Thx if someone can help me

[@zocker018_boss]

I can recommend the Helios 16, it's in my opinion the best package you can buy for the price.

[@DonFresquito]

Can you use more recent games like Elden Ring, RE 4 remake, last of us remake etc? These games used here, not all, inflate the fps numbers cause they’re easier to run because they’re older.

[@chicharitotan17]

which monitor should i buy for the 4080 version?