RTX 5000 & RX 8000 GPU Prices? Better Price/Performance? Q&A 2 December 2024

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@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
▶Sponsor: DeleteMe joindeleteme.com/PC20 What are your thoughts on the 2025 GPU Launches with RTX 5000 & RX 8000 along with Intel Battlemage? Which GPU are you most excited for? Did you upgrade or build recently? Planning a new build in 2025? Tell your story in a new comment below!
@michaeloneill1360
@michaeloneill1360 14 сағат бұрын
BREAKFAST WITH JASON!!
@michaeloneill1360
@michaeloneill1360 14 сағат бұрын
And Good Morning Mr. Bear!
@ilbro7874
@ilbro7874 12 сағат бұрын
Looking forward to the 8800xt, i will just swap it out for my 6700xt in my 7600x build. I cant wait. Maybe later in 2025 i will upgrade my 144hz 1080p monitor to a 1440p 240hz oled
@carlo1132
@carlo1132 12 сағат бұрын
I added a 4tb WD Black nvme to my HP Omen 45L, 14900k/4090, 2tb wd black nvme system. I was running out of space due to game sizes. I stopped watching the fps videos showing my 14900k sucking at 1080p, since I dont game at 1080p I should be fine lol.
@joeschmo2693
@joeschmo2693 6 сағат бұрын
Holding on with a 3080, high hopes for the 8800XT.
@RobloxianX
@RobloxianX 14 сағат бұрын
8GB GPUs in 2025 should be $100 MAXIMUM
@rkwjunior2298
@rkwjunior2298 14 сағат бұрын
Based on ur wallet?.. hahaha
@Kaebren
@Kaebren 14 сағат бұрын
​@@rkwjunior2298says the one who has to wait for Facebook marketplace deals. shut the fuck up cause you don't got money like that either man and even if you did, no one cares
@justdidio
@justdidio 14 сағат бұрын
@@rkwjunior2298 Based on the fact 8gb cannot perform in any recent AAA game... 16gb is the minimum.
@norbert4787
@norbert4787 14 сағат бұрын
@rkwjunior2298 Based on 8GB not being suitable for anything more than low settings at 1080p in late 2024 and future 2025 games, check Indiana Jones or FFXVI benchmarks on a 4060.
@rupes96
@rupes96 14 сағат бұрын
Nah... Even $100 are just to expensive for you lol
@KEYBEATZ
@KEYBEATZ 15 сағат бұрын
I lost my way in the PC building game, currently making my way back, this is refreshing!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Welcome back! I know the feeling. I actually started the channel after taking a break from building for a while and wishing there was a channel dedicated to catching me up (:
@D.Feenstra
@D.Feenstra 13 сағат бұрын
At 39 I build my second pc, the first being 15 years ago. Not a year went past and in building my 7th pc atm, great hobby 😅
@devonmoreau
@devonmoreau 8 сағат бұрын
his information is really good, i highly recommend this channel ❤
@jazeenharal6013
@jazeenharal6013 3 сағат бұрын
​@@D.Feenstra that's funny, because at 39 I built mine. (About a month ago, just turned 40) I think this one was my 4th builds, but my last one was built literally back in 2007/2008ish. Then I entered a phase of not having the time or money to put into it. I gamed on consoles, which served the job, but wasn't ideal. (And if I build myself a gaming PC, I resolved that it was gonna be a really GOOD one.) I put a Ryzen 9 7900x CPU and 4070Ti Super(16gb RAM) in it. 32GB of RAM, 2tb Samsung NVME and a 27inch 1440p 165hz refresh rate monitor. I had forgotten the freedom and quality of PC gaming and the ability to crank all settings to absolute maximum. The 4079ti super is an absolute beast; most importantly, the 16gb of VRAM it has. Can't wait. I haven't been excited like this in awhile.
@D.Feenstra
@D.Feenstra 2 сағат бұрын
@@jazeenharal6013 I turned 40 3 weeks ago haha. Went from 4th gen i5 to 5700x3d with a 4070. I don't really game that much but build pc's to sell as a hobby now. Not to make tons of money of it, just for fun and it's really satisfying to build a cheap capable pc for 4-500 euros and sell it to someone who's budget just isn't bigger :)
@pauljackson1359
@pauljackson1359 14 сағат бұрын
Be a cold day when I pay these ridiculous prices for a video card, if everyone else were the same, the prices would be reasonable.
@domeshotz800
@domeshotz800 13 сағат бұрын
Exactly
@JoeyJoJoJr0
@JoeyJoJoJr0 11 сағат бұрын
FOMO
@traxxedout3019
@traxxedout3019 10 сағат бұрын
It’s cold
@robbay8610
@robbay8610 8 сағат бұрын
For many people gaming is their only hobby so the choice is simple. We just need more people touching grass.
@k2nezumi88
@k2nezumi88 7 сағат бұрын
That's not how hoomans work unfortunately.
@ckling217
@ckling217 12 сағат бұрын
I bet the retailers will raise prices as soon as the tariffs take effect, even if the stock is already in the country. Oil companies raise gas prices as soon as the suppliers raise the price of oil. Even though the gas at the pumps was bought at a cheaper price.
@thatguyshaq7053
@thatguyshaq7053 3 сағат бұрын
They'd have to restock so they'd need the extra revenue. I buy 2 units at $5 each Sell at $7 per My cost increases to $6 per. If I sell my existing stock at the price pre cost increase, I'd be losing due to operational expenses and restocking.
@Teh_Monk
@Teh_Monk 14 сағат бұрын
Got my 7900XT almost a year ago at just $709. Been enjoying it every day since.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Nice!
@Teh_Monk
@Teh_Monk 14 сағат бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannelI laughed when you mentioned 3070 owners. I upgraded from a 3070Ti because the vram was killing the performance in nearly all the games I enjoy. It was an EVGA FTW3 and I’m keeping it forever. That card reminds me of me why I no longer buy Nvidia - the way they drove EVGA out of the market and the reality that they gimp cards below the 80-class as an up-selling technique.
@billbeis7691
@billbeis7691 4 сағат бұрын
got one this december for my vacations :P
@bongodoug
@bongodoug 14 сағат бұрын
If you're building a PC without a cat on your case then you are simply not living.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Agreed!
@rodriguezkev
@rodriguezkev 14 сағат бұрын
I think my cat built most of my PC lol
@aeroflopper
@aeroflopper 13 сағат бұрын
all my rgb plugs have teeth marks
@degroot50
@degroot50 8 сағат бұрын
Spot on😉
@JohnnyZenith
@JohnnyZenith 8 сағат бұрын
Cats are life.
@ravijotsingh7831
@ravijotsingh7831 12 сағат бұрын
I am expecting that AMD will destroy our expectations again. Nvidea is not even in my radar anymore. What matters to me is $300-$500 range GPUs. That's it. As $300 GPUs can perform at 1440p fine and $500 will be the most amount of money you will need to spend for the great experience. 4k might be good just like 8k is awesome but that doesn't mean cards can perform at that level. DLSS don't count.
@MormonDude
@MormonDude 11 сағат бұрын
Didn’t LTT do a video on how there isn’t really a huge appreciable difference between 4K and 8K?
@DenverStarkey
@DenverStarkey 8 сағат бұрын
@@MormonDude yeah i think they did . but general rule of thumb it's about pixel density (pixels per inch) versus size of the screen you are viewing. 8k diferences is only noticeable on screens 65" and up as that's the size where 4k pixel desnsity starts getting noticably lower than 1080p on a 40 inch screen . the difference between 4k and 1080p is only noticable on screen 32 " and up for the same reason. put 1080 and 4k on screens that are only 25 inches and you'll not see a difference because 1080p pixel density is already so packed on that screen size. same for 8k on a 42" screen size you can't really see the difference between 4k and 8k , but go to a 80" screen and it becomes extremely noticable. bassically if you're running a desktop monitor that is 27-32 1440p will be amazing for you , if you're on a 32-55 inch screen 4k is where it's at. and well if nyou're rich enough to get an 8k screen that 60+ inches then yeah you'll want 8k ... but for most folks that sort of TV/monitor is just not in reality for them or their wallet.
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 5 сағат бұрын
Luckily nobody cares what you think
@jarivuorinen3878
@jarivuorinen3878 5 сағат бұрын
@@DenverStarkey Pixel density stuff makes no sense this way. 65 inch screen you wouldn't stick 700 mm from your nose, it'd simply be uncomfortable to constantly turn your head to look at the edges. Big screens are for longer viewing distances and thus pixels appear smaller again, so pixels per inch is not the ruling factor. You can't really watch a movie or play a game or anything like that if you're practically only looking the middle of the screen, while form factor on 1080p, 1440p, 4K, and 8K is the same anyway. There are very niche use cases when you look at huge screen up close and these are basically what multi-monitor setups already achieve, and it is to have separate content on each, for productivity tasks, for photo and video editing on professional level. There you may stick your huge display to your nose, but for gaming makes no sense. There is exception of course for gaming, VR. These are essentially maximum FOV displays and benefit from high pixel density. There are guidelines for viewing distances for televisions, and these are not just marketing bull. Same applies to monitors. 8K of course could make sense in the world where games could natively render to it in feasible way, but this day is not yet, unless you're happy with extremely low FPS. This could solve some problems with jagged edges without the typical anti-aliasing blurriness. But this is largely achieved already with 4K. Unfortunately, many games set a limitation with piss poor quality textures projected on objects, and this trend is ongoing. High pixel density won't make that kind of slop go away, you'll just see the 2D texture resolution more clearly. This is the eyesore that high resolution will never fix, if source material is poor then that is what gets displayed.
@ravijotsingh7831
@ravijotsingh7831 2 сағат бұрын
@@DenverStarkey tell them marketing stuff bro even if it is a lie. These internal stuff is not what interest them. They can make there own theory out of nothing and as a nerd you will try to find proofs that they are wrong but in the end they woudn't care less.
@carpathus
@carpathus 14 сағат бұрын
Still super happy with my current 5600 non-X, RX 6700, 32 gigs of 3200MHz and 2TB DRAM NVMe. No plans to build a new machine until Zen 6. Cheers!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Yep! No need to change a good build (:
@Greenalex89
@Greenalex89 12 сағат бұрын
Solid
@ang9303
@ang9303 14 сағат бұрын
Just bought a 4080s yesterday. I just couldn’t wait to see what happens when the new cards come out and then be pissed I can’t get anything.
@riotvale
@riotvale 12 сағат бұрын
I’m almost on the same boat. I want to wait to see what’s announced on Jan 6, but then I’m sure the current 4080 supers will be hard to find when everyone decides to just get those instead of a weaker 5080 non super.
@theeightoclock
@theeightoclock 11 сағат бұрын
This was a good move, me too.
@JblountSZN
@JblountSZN 10 сағат бұрын
Do you upgrade every new generation or has it been a while ?
@ang9303
@ang9303 9 сағат бұрын
@@JblountSZN well on coming from a 3080ftw 3 in 2022 and before that i think i had a 980. i don't upgrade every generation and unless i win the lotto or something and unless my PC blows up ima keep this setup for at least 3 years and just see whats out then.
@ang9303
@ang9303 9 сағат бұрын
@@riotvale i got it in yesterday and all hooked up. its def a good choice. price is still a little cheap i was able to get it from Best buy for 1k instead of newegg charging 1600
@juanford55
@juanford55 15 сағат бұрын
I mean... 299$ for a 5060 would be nice, if it didnt came with 8GB of vram... I even wouldnt mind 325$ if at least came out with 10-12GB.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Yes!
@Luisgreen3
@Luisgreen3 14 сағат бұрын
get intel arc b850
@juanford55
@juanford55 14 сағат бұрын
@@Luisgreen3 i still want to keep Nvidia as an option tho, but if there isnt anything worth from here to 2026 on the 300-400€ range from them then ill think on AMD or even Intel(if there is stock tho 🥲 cuz i didnt saw a single b580 on online shops of my country yet).
@robertspringer5370
@robertspringer5370 14 сағат бұрын
Great job Jason, as always. That cat is a STAR!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
He is the true pc builder and we all know it! (;
@moldyapple1789
@moldyapple1789 14 сағат бұрын
the 80 being so unprecedentedly cut down means it will not be 1200 and prob 999
@Warhorse469
@Warhorse469 10 сағат бұрын
It's easy to price the RTX 5090 it will cost you all your internal organs
@john.carlson23
@john.carlson23 15 сағат бұрын
2:16 - best transition ever, from hand gestures to loving neck scratches without skipping a beat. You are both very lucky to have each other!
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
haha thank you! Yes petting the cat while ranting about pc stuff is second nature these days (;
@StevilKinevil
@StevilKinevil 7 сағат бұрын
The fact theyre releasing a card with 8gb is a slap in the face to customers.
@RanRamsFan82
@RanRamsFan82 6 сағат бұрын
I agree , 16 should be the minimum
@IHazPeppers
@IHazPeppers 15 сағат бұрын
I'm really hoping we get a RX8800XT for around £700.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Fingers crossed! And hello! Hope you are having a great weekend. See you at the livestream later?
@IHazPeppers
@IHazPeppers 14 сағат бұрын
Oh is that today, thanks for the reminder. Will look forward to that. Correction for my comment, I meant Under £700.
@sirbonobo3907
@sirbonobo3907 13 сағат бұрын
500.
@K.R.98
@K.R.98 13 сағат бұрын
Everything over 499 is a Bit disappointing to me.
@puffyips
@puffyips 13 сағат бұрын
@@sirbonobo3907if it performs it’ll be $599
@CrazyCranker
@CrazyCranker 5 сағат бұрын
Looking at NVIDIA's greedy launch history, here are my predications for the up coming launches: 5090 @ launch: $2,899./after launch: $3,500./5080@ launch:$1,400./after launch: $1,600/5070@launch: $1,100./after launch: $1,300./AMD RX 8800XT @launch: $1,200./after launch: $1,300./ One last prediction, AMD will launch a XTX card either in the 3rd QTR of 2025 or early 2026.
@doaks31
@doaks31 15 сағат бұрын
I understand your point on the 8800 XT, but it is such a pet peeve of mine when the community declares "Product X SHOULD NOT cost more than $YYY". Like... We don't even know the performance of it yet. We don't even know how NVIDIA's product stack is priced yet. Based on the collab with Sony it is not hard to imagine massive leaps in RT leading to performance around a 4080. Do I think this is likely? Not really. But if this was the case $600 will be a GREAT deal. We should only care about getting better performance per cost and not draw arbitrary lines in the sand.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
I hear you! And you're right lots of factors will go into this.
@PohnnyRico
@PohnnyRico 12 сағат бұрын
imagine 4080 performance for 600. how stupid would i feel i if i paid 1300 for a 4080 or 4080s. (even if it had-15% less performance)
@doaks31
@doaks31 12 сағат бұрын
@PohnnyRico It's a bit of wishful thinking, but the PS5 Pro technical seminar was very informative. Sony + AMD have been working at this for years and RDNA3 was just too soon to see any of that R&D payoff. The more likely scenario is performance around a 4070 Ti Super. Then AMD will have to resist the urge to price at $600 and instead opt for $500, which would be a great value!
@RADish-official
@RADish-official 15 сағат бұрын
Please don’t be 400 for a 5060 🤞
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Right?
@Ryhillchibulls
@Ryhillchibulls 15 сағат бұрын
I don't understand why anyone who is in the bracket of people that buy under the 80 series would not go for AMD for more VRAM and better price to performance. I'm not gonna argue. I just hope you all get better.
@mrpotch
@mrpotch 15 сағат бұрын
Nvidia's ego is too high for them to make the 5060 300
@jadedengineer
@jadedengineer 14 сағат бұрын
Nah, it wont be 400. it will be 499…
@cvd1
@cvd1 14 сағат бұрын
Bought a 4070 super a couple of months ago because it offers arguably the best price to performance among any nvidia 40 series card. I went with nvidia because i need the software.​@@Ryhillchibulls
@ekayn1606
@ekayn1606 15 сағат бұрын
2:28 Bear goes for a bite and transitions to a yawn😹 SO FLIPPING CUTEEE😻
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
The true star of the channel (;
@TOTKHub
@TOTKHub 14 сағат бұрын
23:00 This cat cracks me up 😂
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
He is such a star lol
@niknikmoore
@niknikmoore 15 сағат бұрын
Merry Christmas, Jason and team and Cats. Your 'barnet ' is looking better.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Best wishes to you and yours!!
@faileeer
@faileeer 14 сағат бұрын
Nvidia is gonna be like : "We present our new RTX 5060 with 8GB of Vram because you wont need more. Why ? Because we invented a new way to render games (Neural rendering) instead of just adding more VRAM to our GPU´s.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
haha!
@thenozar7603
@thenozar7603 4 сағат бұрын
Jason has to be one of the most level headed guys out there in this industry. I think he has really great instincts or ability to rationalize things numbers aside for instance with the doomsday tariffs. Everyone and their moms are all speculating about how expensive this and that will be but Jason's take is refreshingly calm while backed up by solid reasoning. Great video as always
@ibcentral4720
@ibcentral4720 14 сағат бұрын
Spending 2k on a card is ridiculous in my eyes. Barely have enough money to have everything else in the build 🙃
@xhuynh23
@xhuynh23 11 сағат бұрын
No money no game for you then, 5090 looking at $3-4000usd 'at least!' 😂😂
@frallorfrallor3410
@frallorfrallor3410 7 сағат бұрын
eaven 4k woudltn be bad if you want the best of the best on the earth
@VoltronTrader
@VoltronTrader 6 сағат бұрын
Got 10k ready for a new build. All about make more to play more.
@_raptor4070
@_raptor4070 14 сағат бұрын
My RTX 2060 is showing its age, and a 4080 Super/7900XTX build is real tempting. I just hope I won't have to wait too long for a new gen GPU. Thank you for all the timely information
@raymondmartinez845
@raymondmartinez845 12 сағат бұрын
Same boat here
@RG-ow2tu
@RG-ow2tu 11 сағат бұрын
Similar boat!
@itsmeowtain8631
@itsmeowtain8631 11 сағат бұрын
My old rig finally gave out so I just bought new parts : RX 6700 for $265 and a 5600x for $115. I used the 5600x in my last build which I gave away to my brother, and honestly its a great CPU, even though its almost 4 years old now. Hopefully I dont regret this buy :)
@rotm4447
@rotm4447 10 сағат бұрын
I think paying double for am5 just isn't even close to worth it from price to performance.
@alessandrodonati7863
@alessandrodonati7863 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you for all your hard work and great content this year! Looking forward to completing a great build in 2025 thanks to your guides 😊
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! It means a lot to get feedback like this. Best wishes on your build in 2025 and glad we can help!
@310_Latchkey_kid
@310_Latchkey_kid 12 сағат бұрын
Always good to see Ambrosius!!
@TechnoCube_
@TechnoCube_ Сағат бұрын
Really great video as always!! Also your cat is soooo cute :)
@CaptainJonathan
@CaptainJonathan 9 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately it seems they dropped the 80 class cards then just moved up the names on all cards below, but then upped the price. So we would have to pay two tiers higher than what we did with the 3000 series and prior. I am a 90 class guy, but $2000+ would be a very hard pill to swallow. I don't think the GPU should take up half or more the total cost of the build.
@DevDinish
@DevDinish 10 сағат бұрын
Just got my 7900xtx and ryzen 9 7900x best purchases I've made in years. Gave my old 1080 ti to my family
@bigsteele28
@bigsteele28 11 сағат бұрын
By far the most underrated KZbin channel EVER! ❤
@Nick-se1fp
@Nick-se1fp 8 сағат бұрын
so much gold in this vod keep up the great work marry christmas
@Warhorse469
@Warhorse469 10 сағат бұрын
Considering how good the B580 is I hope Intel steps into the area of mid to high-GPUs sooner rather than later.
@Kapono5150
@Kapono5150 15 сағат бұрын
Just back in August you could have gotten AD102 for 1599 or even the MSI AIO model for 1499.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Yep!
@Darkhorse1239xf
@Darkhorse1239xf 14 сағат бұрын
Maybe in the states, in Canada it cost 2.7 k before tax
@genasgenas
@genasgenas 12 сағат бұрын
@@Darkhorse1239xf why in Canada its so expensive? In UK £1500 for 4090 7900xt - £599
@Darkhorse1239xf
@Darkhorse1239xf 9 сағат бұрын
@@genasgenas couldn’t tell you, it would be cheaper to buy it in the states and just declare it at the border
@Darkhorse1239xf
@Darkhorse1239xf 9 сағат бұрын
@@genasgenas 7900 xt is like at least a $1000 here
@Sevunteen
@Sevunteen 15 сағат бұрын
Hey Jason, my 2-year-old little nephew, that I babysit, his first words were Mommy and daddy, and he then began to say " I'm Jason" he says it all the time he just goes around saying I'm Jason I'm Jason it's It's the funniest thing.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Wow! That's truly incredible. Thank you for making my day. Tell his parents I'm sorry (; Best wishes to you all!!
@Somechillguy90
@Somechillguy90 15 сағат бұрын
I'm looking forward to building my first gaming PC going into 2025
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Awesome! Best wishes on the build and so happy we can help!
@genasgenas
@genasgenas 14 сағат бұрын
5060 8gb. 5070 12gb E-Waste 5070ti for $800+ is only a 1440p gpu. For 4k with some future proof you need 20gb Vram
@ThomasPaine01
@ThomasPaine01 13 сағат бұрын
Good, good. Ambrosius trusts you much more now, Jason! Congrats, brother! Have a great weekend, Y'all! 🙌😎
@johndelabretonne2373
@johndelabretonne2373 10 сағат бұрын
Jason, I wholeheartedly agree with your prediction of the 5090, and very few KZbinrs are saying what you are saying right now (I'm so tired of the Hopium!), so I really appreciate your down to earth prospective... Thank you! As for the 5080, the only way I can see it maybe being $999 is if the 8800 XT really his that 4080 performance level at $500; if it actually ends up being between a 7900 XT and a 7900 XTX, then I can really see nVIDIA charging $1200-1300 for the 5080, especially if it is matching the performance of a 4090...
@Orangebeenyboy
@Orangebeenyboy 15 сағат бұрын
Jason, welcome to New Orleans. If I ever see you around I'ma offer to buy you a drink!! Thanks for the videos.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you! We are loving it here. Definitely say hi if we run into each other!
@JayJay-jp5fu
@JayJay-jp5fu 14 сағат бұрын
Merry Christmas. Thanks for the awesome videos!
@weirdodude1173
@weirdodude1173 5 сағат бұрын
I might still get the 8800 XT at $599 if it can perform at above 50% of the 5080, but for sure $499 sounds so much better. Thumbs up!
@jallop7918
@jallop7918 13 сағат бұрын
I'm just wanting an entry card with 12GB with RX 7700 XT performance around the $300 price point. Just want outstanding 1080p performance or great 1440p performance medium-high settings. Keeping an eye on the B580 for now, but if the RX7700XT or 7800 drops in price, well, I may have to just snag one.
@Elrevisor2k
@Elrevisor2k 14 сағат бұрын
“Your PC is as good as you love it when using it” right on the spot if you are happy playing with your build whether is at 4k, 1440 or 1080p or 200 fps or 60fps you have what you need sometimes the grass of your neighbor is not greener. I’ve seen pp playing with a 4070 and they have a 60hz monitor why would you need more or the new gpu if what you have is perfect? Unless you need it for work then is an investment then fine go for the new almost 2k gpus
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Yes! Its easy to give into the hype for sure but if you're already got a build that's working for you no need to change!
@RanRamsFan82
@RanRamsFan82 6 сағат бұрын
😂that’s crazy people pay 2k for a gpu, you can buy a whole setup for that, to each his own
@carpenter4lyfe305
@carpenter4lyfe305 14 сағат бұрын
Reasonable take on the tariffs brother. The tariffs are a tool to apply pressure to renegotiate better trade deals. The world isn’t over until it’s over.
@michigantoga
@michigantoga 6 сағат бұрын
2yr old GPUs selling for over MSRP. Just insane, I've had SLI GTX480s, so this is just crazy to me.
@davidtraverso6408
@davidtraverso6408 9 сағат бұрын
Just built a new PC. Thanks for the 25% discount on Windows!
@wyrmhand
@wyrmhand 15 сағат бұрын
For the almightm Mr. Bear and the algorithm Have a fantastic Christmas and New Year! 🥳
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Thank you so much! Really appreciate your support of the channel. Best wishes to you and yours!!
@AlexanderDeSutter
@AlexanderDeSutter 10 сағат бұрын
I don't know what articles you read about the tariffs of 2016 but current economic reports estimate it cost the American consumer as a whole around 3.2 billion each month in added tax and 1.4 billion in "real wages" average prices rose an additional 10% to 30% on average which was in line with the tariffs and company's just passing on the bill to consumers. I mean just looking at individual bans the effects where terrible, the china trade war bankrupted the farmers of middle America who sold a lot of their produce to China which forced the government to subsidize them currently with no end in sight since China now simply buys produce from South-America etc. This isn't an economics channel so ill just advice people to listen to you on computer/tech stuff(which you do brilliantly) and to ignore the tariffs section entirely since it doesn't reflect reality. And for the person posing the question, yes if the tariffs do go true company's will raise the price of their inventory even if they imported pre-tariff. That's exactly why a lot of company's are stocking their warehouses currently, no company is going to snuff at free margins since they are in the business of making profits.(which they absolutely should do) The best defence for Trumps "economic plan" is to hope he doesn't fulfil his campaign promise. Which oddly enough goes for a lot of his proposed policies and is a common place defence used by his own voters so no clue where that leaves Americas economical future. Anybody who thinks this wont effect their prices only needs to look at current freighter prices that are already rising by the promise of him being president. Company's don't make bets if it will happen, they will prepare for the worst possible state and charge the consumers extra for their added cost's.
@rabbychan
@rabbychan 2 сағат бұрын
I'm just gonna steal a GPU, wish me luck, guys!
@rdnowlin1206
@rdnowlin1206 14 сағат бұрын
Intel B580 is a game changer. AMD will have to adjust their pricing wisely.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
I sure hope so!
@lilkngstr
@lilkngstr 14 сағат бұрын
Used market too
@PohnnyRico
@PohnnyRico 12 сағат бұрын
b580 doesnt change anything
@nicholasmarshall3191
@nicholasmarshall3191 14 сағат бұрын
The upcoming tariffs could add a chunk of money of the incoming new cards.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
We actually cover out thoughts on this in the video! Let me know what you think
@hyakkimaru1057
@hyakkimaru1057 15 сағат бұрын
mr bear just chillin😂😂
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
He loves his studio naps!
@coolissimo69
@coolissimo69 9 сағат бұрын
Hi Jason, I sorted everything with my new Rysen 9800X3d plus a 4090 , thanks for all the help and information. God bless you and your family.
@chico_fiesta
@chico_fiesta 14 сағат бұрын
No wonder Ambrossius slept over, you were late with lots of work for him to resolve issues with the video...
@funkypants9554
@funkypants9554 14 сағат бұрын
Hi I’m building a new pc and I want to get a 7900 xtx how long will the xtx last until it’s out dated and if it’s to soon should I wait to get a 8000
@Darkhorse1239xf
@Darkhorse1239xf 14 сағат бұрын
Can you even find one?
@tronowolf
@tronowolf 12 сағат бұрын
Nvidia depends on scalpers to buy in bulk. They don't lower prices because they know they'll lose the scalper customer base.
@4evahodlingdoge226
@4evahodlingdoge226 14 сағат бұрын
- 8600xt at $300 with raster of the 7700 xt with +50% better ray tracing, - 8700 xt at 7800 xt raster with +50% better ray tracing for $400 and - 8800 xt with 7900 xt raster and +50% better ray tracing at $500 will dominate.
@Kidd-nt3jo
@Kidd-nt3jo 14 сағат бұрын
Tariffs are going to make GPUs too expensive. Buy Now!
@DrDonWario_MD
@DrDonWario_MD 13 сағат бұрын
Breath, chicken little.
@norbert4787
@norbert4787 14 сағат бұрын
With a 5060 8GB, you can play Indiana Jones at 1080p with low textures and shadows. Anything higher, and it will stutter or won't even run just like on 4060... Great 😂
@theeightoclock
@theeightoclock 11 сағат бұрын
Too late, 4080s are gone. Shoulda picked one up before new tariffs from new prez
@frallorfrallor3410
@frallorfrallor3410 7 сағат бұрын
i kinda giggles abit when american talks about tariffs i always envy americans for buying tax free gpu highend for 1500 4090 here in norway 4090 is 2,207.92 usd i hope the tarrif eaven out eu prices vs us prices :D
@spammusubi9004
@spammusubi9004 5 сағат бұрын
there's no way in hell it'll be $499.99 8800 XT that's their highest end card for this generation and with 4080 Super raster performance and double the ray tracing performance of a RX 7900 XTX... I mean $649.99 for that would be a helluva steal
@BumpkinBros
@BumpkinBros 14 сағат бұрын
5060 8gb for $469
@IrnMaiden304
@IrnMaiden304 13 сағат бұрын
Jayz two cents had the CEO on, that conversation was wild, especially when you hear the words of the CEO directly. Explains enough
@Cognitoman
@Cognitoman 12 сағат бұрын
Are they gonna have a 8900xtx and if so any idea how it would compare to 7900xtx
@Dailyrider94
@Dailyrider94 9 сағат бұрын
no
@aphilzitrone
@aphilzitrone 10 сағат бұрын
Bought the Rtx 4060ti 16 gb for 400 Euro a month ago cause i needed it for AI software. Its now almost 500 Euro
@jefff3886
@jefff3886 7 сағат бұрын
In a way, I hope they don't price the 5000's at $299. Just last Christmas, my gift to myself was a used 3060ti for $300. I would hate to think that for the same price I could have had a 5000 series, even if it's an entry-level 5000. C'est la vie. Such is the life of a home-builder. Actually, upgrading from a GTX980, I am beyond thrilled with the RTX 3060ti, and it's going to be carried over into my next mobo upgrade, if and when.
@keblin86
@keblin86 12 сағат бұрын
Still on my 3070 2k res and so far no issues.
@Agent.Orange.
@Agent.Orange. 13 сағат бұрын
Jason, ima cry bruh, amazon canceled my rtx 4070 ti super, seems like it was a scam, thank god to amazon for that, well back to square one. Will just have to wait for ANY 16 gb or higher gpu.... INTEL arc seems interesting.... .. *Cries in VRAM*
@Loki_Trickster
@Loki_Trickster 5 сағат бұрын
Managed to pick up a b580 card for $5 over MSRP. At local mom and pop. Can't really call it a paper launch when they were just basing it off demand from its last generation. It's popularity just happen to skyrocket because of its price/preformance
@NeoDon1
@NeoDon1 12 сағат бұрын
Welcome back to PC Builder I'm Wasted! 😂 😂 lol
@H4xooR
@H4xooR 10 сағат бұрын
I'm switching to 9800x3d from my good'ol 10700k,but at this rate my 3070 gonna steel itself for what the come. With these prices it have to hold out for god knows how long.
@PurpleRupees
@PurpleRupees 14 сағат бұрын
2k 5090 and 1k 5080 makes the huge cut down seem sensible. I agree with you on how the 90 class can be something ridiculous because it's the best performance on the market. And that 80 class has to offer some value on the basis of being less powerful. Worst case is $1200 for about 4090 performance and I think that's still worth and I might get one
@tistats
@tistats 14 сағат бұрын
Considering I got my 4090 for 1400 with my Best Buy birthday coupon, that doesn’t seem like a deal at all.
@PurpleRupees
@PurpleRupees 14 сағат бұрын
@tistats I think you got a beyond exceptional deal. Enjoy it
@W9HJBill
@W9HJBill 14 сағат бұрын
My 3080Ti FTW3 puts out more FPS at 4K than my monitor can handle, so ... I'll mostly skip the 5000/8000 series cards until the next generation cards are announced and spend my money on a new 32" 4K with 240Hz refresh rate for most likely less money than a 5080Ti.
@riyoriyote
@riyoriyote 7 сағат бұрын
People talking about replacing their 30/40 series and I'm here on my 1070 like, "am I a joke to you?"
@oopsydaisy4637
@oopsydaisy4637 11 сағат бұрын
I expect the same with Nvidia. 5080 mark up to 4090, 5070 mark up to 4080 etc. They've been doing it for 12yrs since the 780
@bear4759
@bear4759 6 сағат бұрын
Another grouse episode Jason 👍 I wish you, your wife, and all your fur babies (I hope they are all well & still getting on grousely) the best for the holiday season 😺 🎅
@DarkStar-qe2qu
@DarkStar-qe2qu 12 сағат бұрын
Nvidia fanboys claiming vram doesn't matter as much with their gpus because they have some magical feature to use less vram is ridiculous.
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 5 сағат бұрын
AMD fanboys ;living in mum's basement and pretending Radeon is competitive ,, they are a JOKE
@DarkStar-qe2qu
@DarkStar-qe2qu 5 сағат бұрын
@tilapiadave3234 nvidia cards are great but some people think they magically use less vram for some reason to warrant spending tons of money on a 8gb card is nonsense.
@tilapiadave3234
@tilapiadave3234 2 сағат бұрын
@@DarkStar-qe2qu I have no thoughts that Nvidia are magic ,, just superior. Vram is not the answer to all problems ,, the Vram acts as a buffer for when the gpu processor needs more time to process the inputs ,, so a slow card such as the RX 7600 xt is basically a waste of vram , and that is why an 8gb vram RTX 4060Ti trounces it in many games. A faster card with extra vram Not just a gpu with more vram is the answer. Otherwise I would buy cheap GT 1030 ( 2GB ) and add extra 14 GB of ram.
@coolissimo69
@coolissimo69 9 сағат бұрын
Question what you ratter buy a 5080 or a 4090 ???
@yanyanfourtwenty
@yanyanfourtwenty 2 сағат бұрын
I'll be saving for a 8700/8800 for next year. Just enough time to get me a bit informed on performance metrics on them new cards before I purchase.
@Mike-s9d
@Mike-s9d 11 сағат бұрын
I'm getting back to PC building after years being away. Is it just me or have manufacturers forgotten about efficiency? These new GPU are using ridiculous amounts of wattage.
@mars009
@mars009 9 сағат бұрын
I bought a 4080S for $950 (before tax), and now have the chance of getting a 7900xtx hellhound for $800, but have a hard time deciding whether to swap or just return, wait, and hope for the best
@atomic3325
@atomic3325 12 сағат бұрын
On the high end Nvidia is going to do whatever they want because there is no competition. The best we can hope for is same price as now plus 100 to 200. The real battle will be at midrange i think. Depends on who announces first and how aggressive they get.
@ferrumregit4252
@ferrumregit4252 9 сағат бұрын
Great update! Thank you!🎉
@raeshalgoul8505
@raeshalgoul8505 15 сағат бұрын
With this cooler weather, Tater chills with me, just like Bear does with you. Good to see Bear is doing well. Merry Christmas and best wishes in the coming year. Take care Jason. Peace 👍🐈‍⬛👍🐈🐱😉🎄✌.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
Aw we love snuggle weather! Best wishes to you and yours!
@MVK_3772
@MVK_3772 14 сағат бұрын
Man the international prices will only be higher 😔
@joriewillard8826
@joriewillard8826 5 сағат бұрын
Marketeers for Nvidia are being told to tell the audience's that the 80&90 are so expensive because there professional cards. So expect the 90 @ 2600 and the 80 @ 1600. The 70Ti is for the common folk.
@moishazilberman1452
@moishazilberman1452 15 сағат бұрын
Upcoming 9950X3D + RTX5080, maybe the best combo for productivity and gaming! PS: Only if Lisa will prove that :)
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
We'll get her testing as soon as possible! (;
@moishazilberman1452
@moishazilberman1452 15 сағат бұрын
@@PCBuilderChannel Great, can't wait. And I decided to build new pc after NY. Waiting exactly this combo. Hope Lisa will give 10/10 🤪
@Gg66226
@Gg66226 15 сағат бұрын
@@moishazilberman1452u got the same taste as me😂 i am also building a new pc for the new year and iam also thinking about 9950x3d and 5080 after seeing 9800x3d performance
@StevilKinevil
@StevilKinevil 7 сағат бұрын
at $499 it should be the best selling GPU ever
@bigno1900
@bigno1900 15 сағат бұрын
the cat is so chill
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 15 сағат бұрын
He sure is (:
@dustinberthold962
@dustinberthold962 14 сағат бұрын
Prices for GPUs have gotten to the point that a crash needs to happen. Still rocking the 1080Ti(7 years later) and am still very happy :) Prices are just not worth it...
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
I would say remember you don't need the latest and greatest only to build a fantastic gaming pc or upgrade. Its easy to get caught up in the hype but like you're saying there are perfectly reasonable cards that will give great performance!
@KnightmareUSA
@KnightmareUSA 14 сағат бұрын
That's like waiting for a crash on medium to high end smartphones. The biggest influence in the short term could be Intel with it's 'budget' range
@dustinberthold962
@dustinberthold962 14 сағат бұрын
@@KnightmareUSA Fair point, but I heard Apple is having difficulties pushing out new phones due to very small, incremental, improvements with crazy prices.
@juanford55
@juanford55 14 сағат бұрын
Saving 400$/€ for 2026... Scared a bit looking at hypotetical prices, that might not be even enough for a decent 1080p GPU 😅, god damn price inflation.
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Yep!
@frallorfrallor3410
@frallorfrallor3410 7 сағат бұрын
old gpu will disapear as usally no one rly know where they go mby ewaste or back to factorys for recycle?
@IHazPeppers
@IHazPeppers 14 сағат бұрын
Kittys telling us something guys. Chill for afew weeks, next generation gpu's are right around the corner 😺😴
@PCBuilderChannel
@PCBuilderChannel 14 сағат бұрын
Yes!
@gc4rt
@gc4rt 12 сағат бұрын
should i upgrade my 3090 ti?
@MrThanatos-m4i
@MrThanatos-m4i 12 сағат бұрын
Catching every year new componenets its an expensive hobby. Just buy what's at that point best on the market and chill out couple of years. For 7 years now im owner of beast 1080Ti, never had any problem running anything on 3440x1440. Got an eye on that 5090 now :)
@Delta.Force.
@Delta.Force. 7 сағат бұрын
I have a gtx 1060 6gb right now, upgrading to 5090 with 9800x3d
@creativefutures
@creativefutures 9 сағат бұрын
it doesnt matter if the tariff hits or not. prices on items and electronics are already set to increase. just like during covid. the prices are increasing due to greed. you are going to see cards hit new all time highs and prices on cpus will be competitive.
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