RTX 5080 Costs HOW MANY KIDNEYS!?!?!? RTX 5080/90 pricing rumors analysis + Battlemage 24GB

[@hdz77]

Nvidia making all these price leaks so when the 5080 is revealed at $1199.99 and the 5090 at $1999.99 gamers will be like Fuck Yeah, when it's still overpriced GPUs.

[@danishbashir4184]

Was gonna say exactly that. Its how our government in Pakistan does things. Overprice petrol/gas to hell and when crowd protests, drop the price by 10%. Typical lollipop.

[@jaspercz13]

exactly this

[@Efsaaneh]

Jensen is always 2 jackets ahead

[@LprogressivesANDliberals]

💯💯💯💯💯💯 bingo

[@beowulf885]

i will happily pay 1300 for a 5080 including tax, $1700 dollars is insane and im not sure if im willing to pay that much.

[@sixsixten]

$1500 for a 16gb VRAM is an insult

[@Adnyeus]

16gb For more than 500$ is an insult

[@krisshietala2119]

@@Adnyeus more than 699$ for a gpu to play games is a hoax.

[@JynxedKoma]

Stop being so easily indoctrinated. It's NOT going to cost $1,500 AT ALL. Rather $1,200. Don't be so naive as to let yourself to be socially conditioned by these rumours.

[@dukeofgigabytes8335]

3090 had 24gb at $1500 over 4 years ago.

[@erenyaeger7662]

It will be 1200

[@leonfrancis3418]

They're not going to cost that much. A part of me wonders if this is social conditioning, however. Letting us freak out over 1500/2600 prices makes us more willing to accept 1200/2200.

[@sevbait]

Agree, and that social conditioning is called the anchor effect. They can seed rumors of absurd prices, then show up for less and make it seem like a relief to the people who were successfully anchored. Daniel Kahneman has a helpful chapter on this sales technique in his book Thinking Fast and Slow.

[@craiglortie8483]

i think that we are going to be disappointed by the price as it's the biggest die that rtx has had yet. that means that the waffer has to be spread out over fewer chips and i don't think that it's going to be good for gamers. at least i won't have to worry about it ever again as i'll be stuck with amd until i die.

[@fried_funk]

this sounds like wishful thinking (even if 1200/2200 is not that much better...)

[@TheXboxSux]

Nice, I didn't see your comment and just posted the same thing. It's so obvious. Questions is: will it be obvious to the public and will they tolerate it yet again?

[@mitsubishidion8514]

create a problem, sell a solution

[@Ladioz]

At $1500 you can buy such an incredible PC at the moment in 2024

[@Terp-daze]

yup, I got a 4080 super, Ryzen 9 7800X and 32gb in a prebuilt for $2400 couple months back.

[@subjectivereviews]

Yeah and the trash devs make dlss 4 compatible games then you get screwed

[@TheHoff6300]

@@subjectivereviews screwed if you want to play crap games

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@Ladioz Maybe one on sale

[@subjectivereviews]

@TheHoff6300 most modern games are poorly optimised,relying on fake frames and upscalers you easily know if you have a PC.

[@johnc8327]

Nvidia: That will be 2.5 kidneys sir. Me: But I only have 2 kidneys!!!! Nvidia: Do you have any children?

[@HoretzYT]

for a 5090 Nvidia will take the whole child for parts lol

[@Gr1mR34p3r85]

Sadly I have 0 kidneys, so no RTX 5080 for me.

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Ur just broke

[@EternaL1fe]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVP And after you die, so will you be

[@Hero.S]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVP You're called foot minecraft pvp only because you sold everything and the only thing you have left of yourself is just your foot A foot and an rtx 5090

[@Duarenteed]

The 3080 was 69% faster that the 2080 and was $700. They saw scalpers prices and 🤔

[@mythsardan]

That's partially because the 20 series was awful for price / performance

[@Duarenteed]

@mythsardan The 4080 was 20% faster for $1100 without the silicon shortage of the 30 series😅

[@AndyViant]

The 2070 super was basically 2080 speed. Much cheaper. Like the 40 series, the 20 series was bad value and needed the super series to make them viable.

[@mikeslemonade]

With Bideninflation it’s not out of the ordinary that something doubled in price though.

[@mythsardan]

@@Duarenteed Exactly! The 40 series was also an atrocious value. Nvidia has been selling people cutdown chips for a price premium, because people buy up whatever garbage they put out. Look at the 10 series and before, those will be more like the 30 series and less like the 2 horrible generations (20 and 40 series). Not to say that Nvidia was a saint before, they have been doing the same thing that they are doing now for many many years, now they are just more shameless, because they have ridiculous sales due to all the garbage companies buying into the "AI" trend.

[@MikoYotsuya292]

Until no one buys it, this will keep happening

[@VatiWah]

even if gamers dont buy.. AI bros will just buy them up lol.

[@deadadam666]

problem is that there are enough rich idiots to ruin it for the rest of us - as was proven during the human malware incident

[@adriancioroianu1704]

Thats not how it works for 5080. Remember, the 5090 is produced by nvidia aswell and people will buy it like there's no tomorrow, being the best on the market and useful for a range of usecases. The 80 class is in a limbo since last gen and will probably stay that way at least until nvidia will normalize 70 class for around 1k. All of this is happening because there is no strong and coherent competition, not because consumers are .

[@leonard8766]

I think it'll be £2000 and people will buy at that price. Any more i think people will just buy the 80s or last gen 90s. I really belive that 2k is the plato

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

Im buying a 5080 day one!

[@lamproschouliaras5346]

I don't panic, I'm running a 7900xt for 650 euros and i bought Nvidia stocks, salute to fan boys!

[@atavusable]

Smart moves!

[@utkarshrajpurohit1554]

😂😂😂 999IQ

[@onura2710]

Bought a 7900 xtx asus tuf on a sale. I was stressed if Nvidea release a decent price high and gpu with 24 gb ram next generation. But as always they continue to scr... their custumers :D

[@sitordan]

Despite the price, people will buy it, of that I have no doubt. I will not be one of them as paying that much for a graphics card is stupid.

[@zingwilder9989]

Yes it is, unless you're a video creator making money from it.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

Video is about how you should not believe all the rumors you see and yet here are the comments all acting like the rumors are 100% the truth. The naivety and delusional attitude of the pc community is insane

[@anotherwowman]

People from third world countries like my country which has been paying a decent 4x more than what people in the us have to pay have been doing that for eons now and now just the west is starting to understand, now it's just WAYY worse for us and this is just sad and funny 😌

[@edge8945]

People wont

[@hectorrondon8675]

Right on! seriously 5090 pricing is only relevant for your "Henry Cavhills and Post Malones" that are into pc gaming or pros that could use a 5090 for AI or work but for the rest of us peasants we're excited for your B580s or how affordable will AMD's new mid range line up will be. Sure I could save up but when I realize I'm about to pay the same amount of money for a gpu just to play games on that I just spent for a washer and dryer set for my famiy, it kind of turns my stomach, I think $400 bucks or less is rich enough for me.

[@Abdelnaser-n1d]

The skyrocketing prices of gaming graphics cards, often exceeding $1,000, leave me questioning their target audience. The notion of being a "fancy gamer" is rather disheartening. Since when did a graphics card-an essential component for gaming-become a luxury item priced beyond a few hundred dollars? It's a gaming GPU, after all. The expectation to shell out exorbitant amounts just to enjoy occasional gaming sessions is absurd. The market has taken a turn for the outrageous, and it's truly disheartening to witness. The fact that high-end GPUs carry such hefty price tags is baffling. Frankly, I can't wrap my head around it.

[@polomarco7053]

I will be that one, but if you look at today “age”, peoples are literal rape cultist. Yet, you expect them to become “unrape” when it comes to videos games? They “get off” / receive “great pleasures” from taxes hikes, prices hikes and suffering, but somehow they would become clean when it comes to this particular thing.

[@haukikannel]

Easy! Their target audience are wealthy people!

[@Abdelnaser-n1d]

@@haukikannel you are definitely not wrong my friend, unfortunately.

[@Traumatree]

A GPU is a math-coprocessor if you lived in the time where these existed. The more advanced a GPU is, the less is can play older games, yet the prices still goes up. Imagine AMD/Intel pulling this with their new CPU not begin able to run previous software: the mobs would tear both of them out. Why are we letting this happen for the GPU is beyond me.

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@Abdelnaser-n1d It all ties back to TSMC. Not trying to defend Jensen or Lisa but BOTH have said GPU prices have gone up because TSM who makes the chips have increased their prices. Wafers have gone up 50% in the last 4 years because TSMC has huge leverage since they are the only game in town.

[@dolan_plz]

16 GB of VRAM is not enough. Maxed out Indy in 4K/DLSS balanced with Full RT eats regularly 19-20GB VRAM. If the 5080 leak is correct, you won't be able to max out the most technologically advanced games (unless they do something with VRAM compression but I have no clue how that works). 16 GB is really bad for that price.

[@HoretzYT]

yes but as i am an AMD fan i am disappointed by the fact that the 9070XT will have only 16GB of VRAM but they are aiming at the biggest portion of gamers which play at 1080p and 1440p for which 16GB of VRAM is enough

[@erenyaeger7662]

​@HoretzYT 9070XT is in the same class as the 7700XT, it's got more vram than that.

[@kraithaywire]

@dolan_plz which GPU are you playing at?

[@mikeryan1043]

​@erenyaeger7662On the flipside it's approximately as strong as the XTX and has 8GB less vram

[@HoretzYT]

@@mikeryan1043 the 9070XT ? there was a leak on wccftech and it was stronger than 7900GRE but weaker than 7900XT so that claim about being as strong as a 7900 XTX seems false

[@michaelmct1980]

Best case scenario, Nvidia is leaking those rumors so their planned price of 999$ 5080 and 1999$ 5090 seems like a bargain. (Even if very expensive regardless) Worst case scenario, this IS legit.

[@erenyaeger7662]

999 5080 when only 1 year prior they announced a 4080S for 1k? 5080 will be 1200 atleast considering its close to 4090.

[@kanakabp]

hey, if 5080 are really $999 is a real bargain. we can't expect it gonna lowert than that

[@DaredeviIGR]

I would be fine with a 999$ 5080 at this point fml.

[@Tech-is1xy]

A $999 5080 is a bargain.

[@Javier64691]

$1199 is the bare minimum. NVIDIA will argue that is better price to performance compared to a $1599 RTX 4090. Btw, that’s the best case scenario, more likely, $1399-1499.

[@boblob-law9401]

Cool. So let's not buy them. Problem solved.

[@marsovac]

They don't care. They will keep high prices not because people buy them but because if they don't they can allocate to AI datacenter cards that sell for insane margins. They have a limited wafer allocation at TSMC, and they don't want gaming cards to canibalize datacenter ones.

[@boblob-law9401]

@@marsovac They wouldn't be advertised as gamer cards if they weren't concerned with gamers buying their cards. Nvidia and AMD for that matter, would feel a huge hit if gamers stopped buying their cards. Data Center cards operate independently of the gamer market. The "shortage" rhetoric is just an excuse to convince Nvidia consumers that the cards are limited, and therefor expensive. It's smoke and mirrors. I promise you that they can AND do make more cards if the demand calls for it. We're out of the pandemic, there is no longer a shortage due to global supply issues. That time has gone and passed. If there is consumer money available, better believe that they'll capitalize on every last dime. This is PURE greed. If we keep paying for the overly inflated cards then they'll have no reason to stop charging so much. They're in price discovery every release, because people give in, every single release. Gamers need to start pushing back and let Nvidia/Amd miss their quarterly budget.

[@slickzMdzn]

@@boblob-law9401What do you mean with greed? Like yeah companies are by their definition required to maximize profit. Only competition (or regulation) can drive prices down.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

4080 super sold out day 1 of release. just cause you don't buy, it doesn't mean that no one else will buy. also, are y'all forgetting the scalper prices? people bought these scalped gpu cause they have money and will spend it.

[@Tfgbn-l6n]

Keep dreaming boy 😅

[@patriciovazquezgarcia1703]

16GB VRAM already causes problems when using pathtracing in games like Indiana Jones. For me, rtx 5080 makes no sense. I don't see the point of the 5090 for gaming either, 32GB is overkill for 4k&pathtracing. In short: Nvidia completely ignores gamers.

[@hermannhand4557]

There will obviously be some cards to be released between the 5080 and 5090 in the stack later. Probably a 5080ti with 20/24 gb Vram (which the base 5080 should have had).

[@jimdshea]

Does the 4090 make sense? What if u bought it 2 years ago? You'd basically be all set for Indy Jonsey right now. Neat.

[@puffyips]

Yet some so called gamers are buying a 5080 day one, paying over a grand for only 16gb is moronic.

[@stangamer1151]

Why using Supreme texture pool? It makes absolutely no sense! Set it to Ultra and 16GB will be enough.

[@andersjjensen]

I think you're contradicting yourself a bit here. The latest games max out the 4090 in every capacity at the highest settings TODAY. So unless you want to feel the pain soon 32GB of something you paid "I will not feel the pain soon"-money for seems like a good idea.

[@teanymonster5227]

people need to start chilling and not getting stressed over something that isnt officially revealed yet... you are legit stressing yourself over an unconfirmed price from an unrevealed product. you can still think its overpriced or be okay with the price when its officially revealed by nvidia why do that to yourself now. makes 0 sence but you all do you.

[@Prodigyredd]

Pretty much confirmed thats why😂 Jensen already said the company aint gon focus on gamers solidifying it more...

[@la7era1u54]

No reason to get stressed, but I bet the price close to that. Maybe $200 less at the best for the 5080. Remember, they don't need to sell gaming GPUs anymore. They aren't worth the foundry time compared to using it for AI chips if they aren't making a killing off from the gaming GPUs. Also, this is the first generation where they are going to be the only company selling high-end GPUs now that AMD dropped out. They have zero competition. They will take full advantage of this. It's the perfect situation for them to get as much as they want

[@teanymonster5227]

@@Prodigyredd "pretty much confirmed" for an unrevealed product. yes like with the 800w 2k 4090 3 years ago? sure. maybe its right this time, maybe not, the point is you dont know so why worry about it at this time. wait for the reveal you can be mad or happy afterwards aswell.

[@teanymonster5227]

@@la7era1u54 i see sooo many getting stressed over it , there are reddit posts with "donation funds" lol. like people go crazy over every "leak" they read online when the product isnt even revealed yet. wont get into my head sorry. i agree with you mostly but just wait and see what happens with CES and be mad or happy afterwards litterally people mental stress themself over this for month now and i cant see it anymore. leaks are cool but not if you take everything that got leaks like your life depends on it (not saying everyone is like that btw). cheers.

[@chy.0190]

@@Prodigyredd Jensen does not reveal prices until last minute. He came up with prices for 3000 series on stage at CES, the board partners did not even know until then lol

[@Jojo_Tolentino]

Hope people remember the 3080 had an msrp of 699

[@mybaIIz]

So it's worth it paying double when the 5080 is 2x as powerful.... right guys?... right? 😢

[@AndrewTSq]

I paid $499for my 3070 at launch. Those were the times!.

[@atifarshad7624]

@@Jojo_Tolentino I remember. And 3070 had msrp of 499. Granted there has been some inflation, but xx80 card being higher than 800 msrp and xx70 card being higher than 600 msrp are scams

[@basicreviews6056]

Nvidia: 1500$/2600$ Smart Buyer: takai takai *walks away Nvidia Fan: *head turn, gives wallet

[@captainthunderbolt7541]

Speaking as an Australian, Vex's take seemed pretty solid. They have literally priced the 5080 at the same price as the Australian pricing of the 4090.

[@DragoniteSpam]

At this point the main reason I follow Blackwell news is to see the fireworks show. It's like how you can't look away from a train wreck.

[@halxen]

Daniel hits on it. The leak that the 5080 is going to be $1500+ from wccftech is taking this from a source that is posting a purported screen capture from an Australia retailer. Even assuming this is a valid screen shot; they simply took the pricing listed in AUD and converted it to USD in order to get the sensational headline. AUD pricing is required to include their GST which for these GPUs would be 18%. Removing the 18% GST from the listed AUD pricing and then converting it to USD it would be around $1299. Which as Daniel eluded to as well, these were showing an Asus Prime OC model which as a premium AIB model it would be expected to be higher than the MSRP for an FE model; which comparing it to the current Asus 40-series cards the Strix OC model of the 4080 Super is about $200 over the 4080 FE when both are at MSRP.

[@thenic123]

@halxen Australian GST is 10%. Usd to Aud buying exchange rate need to be factored in plus a profit margin for the seller.

[@rcrhino2148]

Founders edition cards won't be easy to get anyway. So regardless your going to pay more anyway. 18% gst doesn't sound right unless your including import taxes as well. But then also you forgot to mention the retailers have to make the profit from the cards too so you can easily chuck minimum 10% more on top of the taxes. You don't live here so you don't understand our market if you watch vex's video I think he mentions that the 40 series cards cost as much as second hand cars here in Australia that's how bad it is getting here. The pricing doesn't surprise me if it's higher. Even if Nvidia said launching at $1200usd your still paying a hefty sum to still use 16gb of vram lol. And when that same card comes to Australian shores it's easily over $2000. We have a housing crisis and wage has plummeted I don't see a lot of people buying this 5080 regardless. Which is why retailers are getting less stock of it. They are probably aware that the 80 series cards won't sell well in volume so they have less for the people that can spend.

[@AndyViant]

Gst is 10%

[@solastro5595]

Vex did talk about GST and shipping. And even with those considered, it is still pricey.

[@Adri9570]

6:29 _Daniel Owen, the math lawyer_

[@kurtwinter4422]

At this pace, 5070Ti will be $1299, 5070 $1099, 5060ti $899 and 5060 $699. With 256, 192 and 128 bit buses.

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

you did not even bother watching the video?

[@christophermullins7163]

@@kurtwinter4422 that's what I'm talking about. This will be great for them to give 4 gb modules or double up on the 2 gb modules and provide enough vram. Let's go!

[@CrazO9111]

5070Ti will be 999$

[@TheNumberWas]

You forgot the SUPER variants ant the Ti's and the TI SUPERS variants.

[@krisshietala2119]

rtx 5040 for 299$

[@viniqf]

At this point, I don't trust any price leaks. It could all be something that is being overblown, and then Nvidia prices cards at 999 instead of 1500, and it makes it seem like it's a good value proposition, when in reality you're still paying much more than you should. What's even more annoying is that AMD isn't going to price their cards much cheaper, especially if the 9070XT actually beats a 5070 in both raster and RT.

[@mexicanopdb]

I mean intel has given them less room to goof off this time, maybe Lisa Su decides to give her time to the GPU department and have them do a smart decision

[@ElderGamerX]

The real question is what reason does Nvidia have to give people a good value proposition? Especially when releasing the 50 series cards at similar pricing would just destroy the value of their old cards. The last 2 generations proved they can price these wherever they see fit, because they know they'll still sell.

[@hermannhand4557]

I remember when new generation was SUPPOSED to destroy the previous generation in value

[@arch1107]

to be fair, one should never trust leaks, but in recent years most leaks have been completelly true, few became false, or cancelled products, so

[@marsovac]

"Paying more than you should" makes no sense in the context of GPUs that have no competition. You can use that for the 5070 and downwards. For the 5090 and 80 it would be like saying that you should not be paying $2M for a Rimac Nevera. If you want the fastest production car you will pay the 2M gladly if you have them.

[@Bduh2]

Having been there at the dawn of Personal Computers way back in the mid-80s, I truly love the technology modern-day graphics cards have in them. The things they can do, the incredible realistic pictures, and the fast response are indeed what you seem to pay for pity that the cost of such a card is equally high. Oh well, I am one of those: "When I win the lottery....." folks.

[@pantsgaming759]

You cant just convert the AUD price to USD because here in Australia we always get ripped off normally what ever the USD MSRP price is you double it for AUD price even though the direct dollar conversion is less.

[@ben_bennie_nie]

Glad it shows that the 9070 non xt also had 16gb. I hope that's the way it comes, then it might be my next gpu

[@marsovac]

The 7600XT had 16GB, I it would make sense for the 9070 to have it. If it doesn't then AMD is playing the Nvidia game.

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@ben_bennie_nie Probably won't be a bad gpu but I'd buy the 7900 gre or XT or XTX

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@@DavidGotelli710 the timespy leak shows that 9070xt it a bit above 7800xt, so it is a 8700xt named as 9070xt, so price will be like 7700xt. if you want more performance, then of course you buy a 7900 variant, but you'll pay more. 7700xt sold more than all 7900 variants, so more people will buy the 9070xt cause it's cheaper.

[@Purpledrank39]

If the $1,500 price holds for the 5080, all the companies trying to sell 4080 Super are going to be pissed. They are trying to sell 4080 Super $1,500 +.

[@rangersmith4652]

Even if these price leaks (probably intentionally released to a "leaker" by Nvidia) turn out to be true, gamers will flock to the stores and etailers to buy 5080s and 5090s.

[@gemini-mg6sc]

Yep. They complain but buy it anyway.

[@rangersmith4652]

@gemini-mg6sc Many of them don't even complain; they rationalize.

[@GewelReal]

​@@rangersmith4652I mean, besides the price, what is wrong with Nvidia GPUs?

[@michaelbuto305]

@@GewelReal stupid 12vhpwr with constantly surge current where its kill many PSU and thats why these days PSU have trends with ATX 3.0/Active PFC bs. If you got Platinum with 10 years Warranty from 2018, i doubt people going to use it to cover GPU that cost 1500$. Most of them buy new one with Native 12v hpwr. Not only the price, they construct such a way which guaranteed the needs of active PFC. Dude, our engineer and material is great enough to not even need to consider active pfc bullshit. Its works without it before, but because these power surge GPU. A GPU that only run at 250w, need a frikin 750W PSU.

[@michaelbuto305]

@@GewelReal 12vhpwr with constantly surge current where its obfuscate many PSU and thats why these days PSU have trends with ATX 3.0/Active PFC bs. If you got Platinum with 10 years Warranty from 2018, i doubt people going to use it to cover GPU that cost 1500$. Most of them buy new one with Native 12v hpwr. Not only the price, they construct such a way which guaranteed the needs of active PFC. Dude, our engineer and material is great enough to not even need to consider active pfc bs. Its works without it before, but because these power surge GPU. A GPU that only run at 250w peak, need a hugee 750W PSU.

[@CrazO9111]

I bought a used 7900XTX for 750$ and im very satisfied. No need more!

[@darkfire3691]

Well in Australia when 4080 launched it was 1700-1900$ AUD so yea. Seems like 5080 gonna be 999-1199$ while 5090 1999$.

[@ogaimon3380]

how much is that in usd

[@lolmao500]

Minimum pricing... MAYBE the cheapest models will be that... but then the partners models will cost 100-400$ more.

[@darkfire3691]

@@ogaimon3380 1700+$ and 2700$ is in AUD you can convert this on google.

[@Dnserror88]

​@@ogaimon3380convert it

[@RiasatSalminSami]

Saddest part is that it means 80 class gpus wont be anywhere near 400-600$ range. It will be a 1000$+ GPU that will require upscaling and frame generation to be useable at 4k. Unbelievable.

[@xTRTSCx]

This isn't even a 5080, that's just a name. If you look at generations before 40 series it was always the 70 class card that had approximately 50% of flagship's cores.

[@NoSpamForYou]

5080 only has 11% more cores than 4080. About 3/4 of the 4090. Not anywhere near a 90 class like most generational uplifts.

[@CaptainCave-t3n]

Damn Nvidia ain't playing around. Sad thing is if the 5080 was $2500 people would still buy it and Nvidia knows this.

[@lolmao500]

If consumers were smart, the sales of RTX5000s would be lower than intel Arrowlake cpus... but most consumers arent bright soooooooo they'll buy those gpus no matter the price and screw us all.

[@lucashall8761]

85% Market Share bro.

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

Im buying a 5080 day one

[@rem_0]

​@@TTx04xCOBRA Im buying 9070 day two

[@puffyips]

@@TTx04xCOBRAconsidering the 80 class from nvidia has had the worst price to performance since the 3080 that is not a flex, it’s quite the opposite.

[@arch1107]

nvidia so far has not screwed their customers in a so extreme way as intel has for like a decade with abusive prices, poor warranties,oxidized cpus and firmware melting cpus so people will pay, for sure, last time nvidia did something really dirty was with the gtx 970 last time intel did something dirty was like, september? so much dirty crap they have done i am starting to forget

[@TheCooperman666]

Like the 4090 is not currently 2500+ US dollars... NVidia be tripping

[@deluge6479]

1/2 the cost of a good used car. Tripping

[@crankboiler]

It’s one of the best selling card for them anyway 🤷‍♂️

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@crankboiler no, it's not. in general it's the 3060 followed by 4060. 4060 sell more units than 4070+4080+4090 sell combined.

[@crankboiler]

@@SapiaNt0mata in what market ? For the mediocre average gamer? Yes For upper costumers what nvidia makes actually there profit? Nope, its the 4080 and 4090

[@Scorptice]

Big companies always need two fuck ups to learn. So this is why the 5080 will cost $1500 and the 2% faster 5080 super will cost $1200

[@cheezus4772]

No, it only took them 1 try to prove how easy it is to sell you a $1k card. Release it at 2x price then reduce price by 20% "under pressure" and the masses get to feel good whilst giving you all their money

[@joop_opa]

$1500 for 16GB VRAM...

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@joop_opa The 4080 should have 20-24gb if the 5090 is going to have 32gb

[@xyr3s]

Yea but it's gddr7 :p can't wait till Ces to see how much better it's going to be or not be lol.

[@awitcher5303]

@@DavidGotelli710 But then how would nvidia entice you to buy the 5090?

[@_qwe_fk_1700]

did you watch the video?

[@joop_opa]

@@_qwe_fk_1700 Yeah, and I saw the leaks from a few days ago.

[@РаЫо]

I mean if people buy 4090 for 2500 why wouldn’t they buy 5080 with the same performance for 1500? They would think it’s a steal

[@EBMproductions1]

Fawkin sadly...

[@NoSpamForYou]

Look at the core count, pixel, texel and TFLOP numbers. 5080 will be 3/4 performance of 4090 at best. Only 11% more hardware than a 4080.

[@andersjjensen]

@@NoSpamForYou But a significant increase in TDP and a significant increase in transistor count and memory bandwidth. Your reasoning hinges on the architecture being the same for one RTX40 core to equal one RTX50 core. And just for reference: Techpowerup has the 4080 at 80% the performance of a 4090 and you just speculated that the 5080 will be 75% of the 4090.... do you even think before you speak?

[@NoSpamForYou]

@@andersjjensen TPU doesn't have Transisitor count for 5080 yet. The 4090 is 609mm2, and 5080 is listed as 377mm2, only 55% the size and on same 5nm node. The only gain is 512 more cores than 4080S and from running the chip harder which will fry it faster.

[@danceoffAsh]

My acceptable price for 5080 is 999. Anything beyond, I am sticking with my 3080

[@moldyshishkabob]

Gonna have to get a used 5080 when the 70 series releases if that's your price. Not saying you have an incorrect opinion but it's certainly a pipe dream for us all.

[@gsst6389]

@@moldyshishkabob do people not earn more money has the years go on? In the last 4 years i earn 3k a month so i save up alredy 200k, 200k-2k is like almost nothing so like- are people just cant get ahead, is just a skill issue then in personal finance not the market.

[@moldyshishkabob]

@@gsst6389 All I had to do was look up "rise of inflation versus income" in a search engine. You have this power at your fingertips.

[@danceoffAsh]

@@moldyshishkabob I truly hope I am wrong though. I've been saving 1000 bucks for a 1000. I find it alright to purchase a 5080 but anything beyond it is just risking a poor purchase decision.

[@moldyshishkabob]

@@gsst6389 Thanks KZbin for deleting yet another comment of mine... Dude, just use Google and research this. Please.

[@chucknorrisffs]

"Let it leak, let's see how much we can get away with..." -Nvidia probably.

[@jochenkraus7016]

If you imagine corporations as greedy a-holes, you can't even be mas at them for trying.

[@evilvash0]

you support NVidia and not the underdog this is the results...dummies.

[@puffyips]

I own amd and they are far from the underdog since they follow nvidias practices with every step, and intel, I wouldn’t recommend intel gpus just in general. Even a handful of games not working is anti consumer.

[@arch1107]

the problem here is that nvidia pushed the concept of nvidia good, amd bad, then pushed cuda, and people followed the idea amd right now is the entire gaming industry in consoles, mobile x86 gaming and desktops, but people still think that dlss is great and that cuda is a must the fun part is that only few really need cuda, but this is the world we are living now

[@JoseSilva-rk9ur]

Intel Arc is the way

[@EBMproductions1]

Hoping they bring a B590 16gig card to be a budget banger for most people if it competes with the RX 7800 XT people will get a ton more value.

[@arch1107]

arc is entry level, from this generation, using low prices to impact the market in 2 years if the intel gpu project is not cancelled, prices will increase because there is no way intel is making money here and they must be selling at a loss, so it wont really matter

[@andersjjensen]

@@EBMproductions1 Which die would they base that on?

[@HoretzYT]

on DEC 23rd i ordered a Sapphire 7900XTX Nitro+ for 700eur including VAT (unpackaged and returned, thats why its so cheap) otherwise it costs 1150eur including VAT. Great upgrade from my 5700XT Nitro+ :) but im still waiting because of the christmas holidays

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@HoretzYT Keep that card literally forever. It's so future proof!!

[@jacksonpalacios640]

Holy hell bro, which country? Which store?

[@syncmonism]

The 7900 XTX has dipped below 800 USD in the US, and some models have been relatively easy to find for 800 USD (1120 CAD) in Canada over the past month as well.

[@WereCatStudio]

@@syncmonism Those prices don't include VAT though. I'm assuming the VAT in his country is typical around 20% so that would make the card around $585 USD before VAT

[@fracturedlife1393]

great card when you can get them around £700. The 552w Aqua extreme bios flash is good for some PSU testing 😅

[@zoobi27]

2600$ translating to about 3000 eur in western europe with taxes, not even considering the margin from retailers and scalpers, yeah, just like i've been telling to everyone I know, the 5090 flagship will be between 3500-4000 eur at launch... LMAO And customs? Don't even want to talk about it...

[@rudy1999]

xD That is full price of PC with 4090 + 7800X3D

[@polomarco7053]

4090 are already at that price, so higher then.

[@mikecragan3932]

where do you get that gpu comparison percentage chart from

[@DavidGotelli710]

$1500 for a RTX 5080 is ridiculous. Buy a 7900 XTX instead for about $500-600 less. Nagreedia is out in full force this time with the 50 series. I've gone from 1070->2070 Super->3070->4070 Ti over the last 8 years. If Nvidia prices me out of the xx70's series cards I'm done with them.

[@zingwilder9989]

Yes. The company is ridiculous.

[@subjectivereviews]

😂Ngreedia.i think 5080 will be $1399,5070ti $1000,5090 just sell your heart

[@damianich4824]

Watch the video

[@kevo300]

People want high end cards. There no market for them other then this. Mid tier is very good for value but wanting something more is just how some people are.

[@DavidGotelli710]

@@subjectivereviews If the 5070ti is $1000 I'm not buying that lol

[@SamuraiMerrick]

Nvidia views the 5080 as a 4090 replacement, and the 5090 as a new thing. Makes sense.

[@crimsonxiv8184]

OH HELL NAH

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Ur BROKE We will buy

[@crimsonxiv8184]

A FOOT FETISHEST?! DONT TOUCH MY TOES

[@crimsonxiv8184]

@@FO0TMinecraftPVPIM NOT WATCHING YOUR MINECRAFT VIDEOS YOU WEIRD RAGEBAIT SALESMAN

[@Kapono5150]

Just back In August you could of gotten AD102 for 1499 with the MSI AIO model or Gigabyte model for 1599

[@CaptainJonathan]

We really, really need someone to make a way to handle CUDA workloads without NVIDIA

[@abaivovin2726]

You can run CUDA on AMD using ZLUDA and some other ways as well I'm pretty sure.

[@arch1107]

amd did that, it is called zluda iirc, there was something similar not long ago but it seems it was cancelled the whole idea the problem here is that cuda is property of nvidia and everybody adopted it and use it now, unless amd comes with something better, cuda will stay for a while

[@haukikannel]

Yeah… that was banned for some reason…

[@gnusenpai]

ZLUDA got a new sponsor recently, so its development is still going

[@lazarustenebrae]

Thanks again for your input. Hoping that you're feeling much better soon!

[@patrikmiskovic791]

Madness 😂 everything over 500€ is waste of money

[@FO0TMinecraftPVP]

Youre broke 🫵😂

[@haukikannel]

You can get 5060 under $500! Maybe… 😂

[@John-Wolfe]

honestly, the only time you should worry about how much something costs is when you are going to buy one. until that moment cost doesn't really matter all that much.

[@jmass4207]

That obviously becomes less true the more the prospect costs. So long as by ‘worry’ you mean ‘put any amount of thought, analysis, or planning toward’.

[@Kneel2ThaCrown]

Guess I’ll need to go around collecting kidneys if I want a 5090…

[@marcelkekec]

should i buy 7900 XTX now or wait for new "9070XT" ?

[@michaelbradley7704]

I think $3000 for the RTX 5080 is a price I would like for everyone else to pay because I run a 1440P 32" 175 Htz Gigabyte monitor therefore only need a Intel B580 for $250 to run most modern games at a good frame rate. I didn't buy a 4K monitor for the very reason that I knew you'd need an expensive GPU to run games at a decent frame rate at 4K (native). So sux to be you if you didn't think ahead. Time for the Nelson laugh Ha Ha.

[@dragonmares59110]

You can bet the price in europe are going to be USA price + US taxes + tarif + EU taxes + some BS.

[@arch1107]

in usa there is prices too, but they dont mention them, so

[@Sc5ch]

Tech is generally​ cheaper in the US tho@arch1107

[@haukikannel]

Ofcourse! Why would it be less? Everyone in Europe is millionaire! 😂😂😂

[@vangelis7]

Nvidia told you this 1 year ago, 5080 will perform close to a 4090. What did a 4090 cost 1499$. So there

[@NoSpamForYou]

It will be 3/4 performance of a 4090 at best, before it hits VRAM limit of 16GB. All the core counts are around 3/4 of 4090 and Mhz is about the same.

[@rogerdiz3520]

I'm pretty sure Nvidia saw that scalpers were easily able to get $2500 for the 4090 and will just cut out the middleman this time. They have enough fanbois where they will sell well no matter what the price ends up all the way through the lineup.

[@coryray8436]

That's what they did with the 40 series. 3070 and 3060 were selling for $1000+ and $600+, so Nvidia renamed their replacements a tier higher and charged the similar prices.

[@TizzaOG]

It will cost that much, no worries

[@Thunderhawk51]

Or even more... Taxes not included. 😂

[@阿水-o9p]

The price of RTX50 series graphics cards is expensive, but the price of 5080 and 5090 will probably be around 1199 and 1999. Vex's videos are all for traffic by exaggerating and belittling Nvidia, and his videos have no value. Finally, I want to say that you should not pin your subjective ideas on AMD, especially the unrealistic fantasy that RX9070XT sells for 400 USD. AMD is not doing charity.

[@chibonchibon3967]

Be happy and buy what we can, or get 100% dicount buy not buying anything

[@OC.TINYYY]

Nah, it'll be $1000, even cheaper than last gen. People have to stop drinking the cool aid of these high prices.

[@hb-hr1nh]

Plus tariffs.

[@EBMproductions1]

a 46% increase in Tariffs as well.

[@toddblankenship7164]

@@EBMproductions1 LOL what Tarrifs and where u getting that math?

[@detonationpyrotechnics4156]

That’s not how any of that works. Nvidia has more than 2 location lol. If any tariffs happen it’s going to be for a few select countries not every damn good that comes from all countries. Plus there will never be a tariff that high ever. It’s used as a negotiating tool to threaten countries manufacturing and business for leaving America. Stop repeating what cnn told you and think for yourself

[@EBMproductions1]

@@toddblankenship7164 Are you living under a rock? There is a international goods tarif increase of up to 46% coming for all imported goods look it up at first i heard 25% on vexs channel then i heard 46% the last week, regardless that means a $1000 gpu will be $1250 before vendors add pricing on top for custom cards this is in regards to the RTX 5080 rumours and if that $1500 is real then expect to pay RTX 4090 money for a 16gig gpu now.

[@canihavesomenamehere]

I honestly think people are going to be very disappointed in pricing. imo Hoping nvidia has "learned" (lower) anything about pricing is just ridiculous. Any cheaper than current gen is just not happening.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

4090=$2,500-2,700 now. 4090 was $1,600 at release. Nvidia increased price by $900-1,100. Nvidia has learned nothing about pricing. why? people have money and will buy the expensive gpus. what Nvidia learns is that people have money and will spend it, so they can increase the prices.

[@Thunderhawk51]

Can't help but slowly shake my head and smile... It's as if this came to people as some kind of news or surprise. And it doesn't even matter what they actually cost, they are extremely overpriced regardless. And the prices will keep soaring as long as people pay the price. AND that's not to mention that often those prices are announced without taxes, which is the pinnacle of false advertising. So they are actually going to cost even more. Add possible tariffs to the equation and you realize those prices could and will absolutely be true. And like I already said, it doesn't matter what they cost. They are extremely overpriced regardless. Better to support Intel and AMD and buy their products instead.

[@smartmonkey777]

92% of their business is taking the exact same card adding ecc and selling it for 40k to a company. They honestly don't need you your business or your money, thank them for going out of their way to make limited releases for us, because they absolutely would save money dropping consumer gpus altogether.

[@Thunderhawk51]

@smartmonkey777 I really wish they did that. Stopped making cards.

[@smartmonkey777]

@@Thunderhawk51 you might get your wish soon.

[@kylesommers60]

time to pull out that snake and ladder game from my grandpa's chest, I guess I won't be playing PC anymore.

[@Thunderhawk51]

I wholeheartedly recommend it! I haven't spent the last few weeks with my family, playing different board games and we have had so much fun. (Including a variation of snakes and ladders) Much more fun than I'd otherwise be having playing the latest woke games trying to push their agendas on me and suffer from the UE5 stuttering.

[@dennythescar80s8]

NEVER buy first nvidia cards, wait for later versions of Super to get them cheaper lol

[@stevetb7777]

But then you're that much closer to the next generation releasing. Buying my 4090 at launch was a great move, and I'm sure it will be the same for the 5090.

[@dededede9257]

The only super that was cheaper was the 4080

[@Uthleber]

yeah thats really smart to buy a super card after 50 % of the generation cycle /s

[@suppermanzzzz291]

According to the latest information from the general distributor, the RTX 5080 is expected to arrive on January 18th, priced around ¥12,000 (approximately $1,644.08 USD at an exchange rate of 7.3). The RTX 5090 is scheduled for release on January 29th, with availability anticipated next year.（Chinese new year）While the exact price of the RTX 5090 is currently unknown, it can be inferred based on the RTX 5080’s pricing. 

[@xStarblazer]

Nah bro, step too far, I'm fine with older games, turning down settings, or FSR 3 (c'mon 4) and Xess for 4k and keeping my 7900XT. Still looked better than native 1440p did when I was testing both the Alienware OLEDs, so whatever. I was planning on upgrading to this before the leaks but I'm not gonna delude myself into thinking it's worth games being almost imperceptibly sharper.

[@nickochioneantony9288]

you are right, it's not worth it right now. Buying GPU will be worth a purchase until the next generation of console release. Because when console can get a stable 4k experience with reliable upscalling, then PC will also get the same feature. As of now, AMD & Nvidia are only stretching their product, to see if some rich idiot get baited to buy their product (again).

[@Talamat42]

How much will they cost with tariffs?

[@arch1107]

snce we dont know what price will be, and we dont know what exact tarff will apply if it applies, because that is not decided yet, no one knows

[@Paulohenrique-fs4bs]

I don`t care, after 12 years with NVIDIA, I just replaced my rtx for a rx 7900 xtx, I happy until the next AMD release. NVIDIA is dead for me.

[@la7era1u54]

I'm in the same boat, but you better be prepared to use a mid-range card in the future since AMD is no longer making the high-end models. Hopefully they change their mind on that

[@andersjjensen]

@@la7era1u54 "No longer" just means this generation. It's long since been known that AMD was gunning for another, even more elaborate, chiplet design for top end RDNA4, but it just didn't pan out. Of cause AMD wants the high end. The vast majority of 4090s aren't sold to gamers. They're sold to professional graphics people, researchers and engineers. That is where AMD wants to eventually be. And the move to unify RDNA, CDNA and XDNA into UDNA tells me that next gen is where they're fairly sure they can get the chiplet thing going effectively for graphics/compute accelerators. If we and up in the same situation as with Ryzen (which are "the leftovers" from Epyc production) then gaming cards will come down in price.

[@SapiaNt0mata]

@@andersjjensen wrong. 4090 are sold to gamers. engineers, researchers, etc have other gpus to buy. Nvidia has dedicated gpu for them. do you think that gamers buy Threadripper CPU? no. people that do workstation buy it. gpu are the same. there are other gpu dedicated for workstation and these gpu cost 5-digit number. Nvidia makes more money selling these gpu than 4090. 4090 sells more units to enthusiast gamers that want 4K at high fps for their 4K 144hz+ monitors and ray tracing.

[@andersjjensen]

@@SapiaNt0mata I have a Threadripper with an ADA 4000 at work. The only reason we use the professional line is because we are under contractual obligation to do so. But I work in a specialized field where the only customers are state entities, and thus every component of our tool chain is controlled. The absolute majority of professionals do not use their workstation cards, because they are overpriced as hell, and people know it's the same products. HP, Dell and Lenovo even offer Threadripper and Xeon workstations with GeForce cards for this very reason. The only ones who are forced to put up with their crap are datacenter people, because the EULA for Nvidia's drivers specifically prohibits it.

[@nathanv9562]

So happy I bought my 4080 super a week before Black Friday for under $1050. It’ll do everything I need and more!!! GPU prices are out of control, ridiculously high!!!

[@johndelabretonne2373]

As for the 4080 pricing, I would say it is on the upper end of what nVIDIA could legitimately price a Founders Edition card, but that is absolutely within the realm of what I would have expected an AIB card to cost! Everyone thinking for the last few months that nVIDIA would give you 4p90 level of performance for $999 has been absolutely insane! Sniffing too much Hopium...

[@deluge6479]

Founders edition dont cost more initially lol, it's resellers and scalpers that drive the cost of them up

[@alakaipunny7955]

Yeah the 4090 it’s self is 1500$ lol

[@alexanderjones3830]

At this point entry level GPUs will start costing more than a console.

[@xyr3s]

Nope, the b580 is 250 msrp :p although, that is if you can find it in stock :)

[@alexanderjones3830]

@@xyr3s maybe I should rephrase it. Within 1 or 2 generations, Nvidias line up start at $500

[@xyr3s]

@@alexanderjones3830 fair point lol. O guess time will tell :)

[@christophermullins7163]

No way 5080 is going to cost over the $1200 4080. I think these "leaks" are jensen attempting to test the waters and see what he can get away with. Guys.. if the 5080 is faster than the 4090.. then the 5090 will OVER 2X performance BEFORE RAY TRACING! No effing way these gpus are that fast nor do they cost that much.

[@awitcher5303]

why do you find it so unlikely that it wont be over 1200? hard to imagine NVIDIA wouldnt raise prices given inflation and lack of a AMD equivalent.

[@CrazO9111]

No amd equvalent, it could be with price. Last time XTX Camembert out and nvidia reduce the price for the 4080S to 999$. So at this time its will not come.

[@christophermullins7163]

@@awitcher5303 because the 16gb is why. Remember the 3070Ti? Its really really bad to have only 16gb on a $1600 gpu. It wont happen even if its as fast as the 4090.

[@awitcher5303]

@@christophermullins7163 doesnt matter how bad it is that it only has 16gb, there is just no alternative in terms of performance except maybe the 4090 so I expect it will be priced somwhere between 4080 and 4090

[@erenyaeger7662]

The 4090 is over twice the speed of a 3090 though. A 5090 being twice the speed of a 4090 seems legit.

[@tahiribnmohammad5410]

Nvidia: The more you buy, the quciker you'll die

[@HeliumFreak]

So they couldn't sell any 4080s for 1200. What makes them think they can sell 5080s for 1500?

[@patgray5402]

Lack of competition

[@Aleksey-vd9oc]

The 4080 sold no worse than the 3080 and much better than the 7900xt and 7900xtx combined

[@haukikannel]

By making 5090 to cost $2500 or more!

[@Thunderhawk51]

Greed.

[@andersjjensen]

They don't want to sell you a 5080. They want to sell you a 5070ti, because that is the first card up that will be faster than what AMD offers. Then all the pristine dies can go to professional cards.

[@Dell-ol6hb]

Wouldn’t surprise me at all if it’s true

[@Patrick-vv7cn]

TEAM AMD HERE

[@John_the_baptized]

Chip makers sneaking these in before tariffs are gonna say they have to charge more because of the tariffs and people gonna pikachu surprise face about it. I get it, when there’s a resupply they’re gonna be hit, but why at the beginning?

[@Oldmanpeace]

I bought one the first 4080s on release and to this day I mostly only use 40% of the power of the card. We are at performance levels in which the cards should last much longer than previous generations.

[@NadeemAhmed-nv2br]

Nah man, I need more than the 4090, especially the vram, also am an AMD fan boy, so I'm going to be crushing myself but I'll have to buy Nvidia

[@christophermullins7163]

@@Oldmanpeace of the 5090 is actually 2x 4090 and 2.8x at RT.. it'll last for a century lmao

[@NoSpamForYou]

@@christophermullins7163 5090 only has 25% more Cuda cores, Tensor Cores and TMUS than 4090 so how is that possible? Only 10% more ROPS. It actually has less RT cores. Did they double the width of the RT cores or something?

[@Uthleber]

then turn your display from 720p to higher res.

[@Oldmanpeace]

@@Uthleber Samsung 120hz 55 inch Oled 2560 x 1440 at 120hz with fps capped at 350fps for older games and you are not taking into account DLSS and DLAA for the newer games like Wukong since you do not need low latency for single player games. I game in 4k for things like Civilisation but thats about it. I have 240hz gaming monitor but the truth it is not as enjoyable or practical as my TV. Cancel Reply

[@sterntoaction1]

It's crazy how times have changed. Instead of being hyped about the power of new GPUs, the price supersedes all hype.

[@Vincent-bw8vv]

16gb for 1500???😂😂😂

[@mmanz123]

Lmao

[@Thunderhawk51]

At that price, it should be 32GB! 🤣 24GB minimum!

[@rem_0]

14:50 tldr b580 doesn't use clamp shell design, it has 192bit bus which is 6 individual memory modules with 32 bit bus 2gb each

[@andersjjensen]

No that was the point. He said "clamshell it" for 24GB.

[@rem_0]

@andersjjensen oh he meant like upgrade for current b580. I thought he meant that the one right now using it. My bad 😅

[@andersjjensen]

@@rem_0 Yeah, exactly. A B580 with 24GB VRAM would be a decent card for video editing. Intel's media engine is quite good, and already supported in almost everything.

[@jessiethedude]

At $1500 you could probably buy 10 for one of your kidneys

[@HoretzYT]

well nobody said that it has to be your kidney, lots of donors around xD

[@biocomputers7076]

Hi Daniel , on PC Part Picker today a 4090 fe is $3449.99 and the ROG in white is $3699.99 pre launch

[@MarekNowakowski]

this will be an awful generation for 5070+ class prices. AI still eats every chip TSMC can produce and AMD won't release 9900xtx cards. NVIDIA doesn't need high sales, and 4080/4090 supply almost dried out

[@TheModeRed]

This is kinda what happens withiut proper competition. Higher prices, less innovation.

[@misterijaaaa]

I don't care about ngreedia prices....i am interested in rx 9070xt or whatever to replace my rx 6800. ❤

[@TTx04xCOBRA]

Lmao

[@ij6708]

Unfortunately AMD has always followed Nvidia pricing atleast at launch

[@andersjjensen]

@@ij6708 The 4080 launched at $1200. AMD said "we will give you the same raster performance and 8GB more for $1000"... and people said "iT sHoUlD hAvE BeEn $700 BeCaUsE nO rT". AMD has offered significantly better raster per dollar and significantly better VRAM options for two generations in a row. Quit whining and start buying AMD if you want Nvidia to change.

[@ij6708]

@@andersjjensen The 4080 is a high end card, extras beside raster matter substantially more for that buyer demographic. AMD had to undercut by that much for that demographic as it's the inferior product in a duopoly. In fact they didn't undercut enough as the 4080 class certainly sold substantially more. AMD realized this and that's why they decided to abandon this demographic. However, mainstream cards where most sales are made. They could have clawed back market share but have been refusing to offer such a product. Instead they happily price slightly under Nvidia at launch. That's exactly why the B580 is in high demand atm. AMD could have launched such a product but they refused to

[@justinhogue9861]

Pricing is the absolute hardest leak to get relaunch. They dont have to tell anyone, and few within nvidia will know. It can also be changed/decided pre-stage anouncement.

[@praisetheoak]

For $1500 you can build yourself an upgradable AM5, 4070 super / 7900XT, Ryzen 5 7600, 32GB of DDR5 Ram system that is +5 years futureproof, is a productivity beast and plays almost all games at 4K Ultra + RT at high refresh rates. Or you could just pay as much for a slightly faster GPU with lower Vram. WTF Nvidia Edit: DLSS/FSR and Frame-Gen do exist, and each GPU will perform differently if the title is Sponsored or not. Not everyone is exclusively playing Cyberpunk/AW2.

[@XsYoutube]

7900xt 4k RT and above 60fps? what crack are you on

[@xyr3s]

I mean, at 4k ultra +rt, you're probably barely hitting like 60 - 70 fps at the most I think. Not exactly what I would call high :p I'd say if it's 100+ fps, that would count as high.

[@praisetheoak]

@@XsKZbin Ah of course, unless you are playing Nvidia sponsored titles, in which case you may want to stick with the 4070 super, cheers

[@llewylnmoss]

you arent gaming 4k ultra and RT on that flimsy 4070

[@XsYoutube]

@@praisetheoak please look at 7900xt RT performance, I think it’s around the 4060ti, rhe 4070 will also not game at 4K above 80fps without dlss

[@SiliconSteak]

I have no more kidneys to give…. They can have my frontal lobe instead 🗿

[@Djuncle]

The Bite of 87'

[@Killswitch1411]

Left nut will do.

[@Terp-daze]

I have a 4080 super....I just got it so Im not worried about upgrading but am curious how this compares to it.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

It will probably be 30% faster and 20% more expensive, making the generational value gain possibly in the single digits - You wouldn't be missing a 1080TI moment.

[@TheWretchedWorld]

So, 5080 and 4090 will be similar in performance so pricing tier is similar 5090 new performance tier new pricing tier Makes sense in my head….

[@Joormode]

Yep

[@Jay-mx5ky]

Usually how it works is that you don't have to pay the same amount for the same performance a generation later...

[@christophermullins7163]

You think 5080 with 10k cores on the same node will be as fast as the 4090? And if that is the case.. the 5090 will be 2x the raster of the 4090 before you even turn on ray tracing.. I don't see that there is much of a chance of this 4090 = 5080 and 4090 x2 = 5090. Not gonna happen guys.

[@Ni5ei]

Well, in the olden days a top tier model would be at a certain price point. When the next generation came along, the older generation would drop in price and the new generation would be at that same top tier price point (not including inflation). If you think your reasoning makes sense, a high end graphics card would cost $10,000 ten years from now. And currently a PC would cost 10 times as much as it did 10 years ago. It doesn't work like that.

[@christophermullins7163]

@@Ni5ei jensen is pretending it works like that. Until AMD ends up taking 30% market in a couple years. I mean.. if 5090 is really 2x 4090 and like 2.8x in ray tracing.. 🤯🤯🤯 it'll be worth $2500 because it'll be literally 4 times the amount that you reasonable need for a great experience.

[@martytube821]

Amd's new naming scheme looks shady af!

[@arch1107]

if is true, it is similar how it used to be in the old ati days and with a twist to make fun of nvidia it made me remember my old ati radeon 9200

[@andersjjensen]

Then their naming scheme used to be shady af, because this is how they did it back in the day. I had a HD5870, HD6970, HD7970, RX580 and 6700XT and now a 7900XTX. That Radeon names "look like Ryzen names" is a new thing... that came about when Ryzen became popular so some marketing dork figured that would rub off on Radeon. Now it appears they are doing a hybrid, which makes it interesting to see what comes after Ryzen 9000. Will they "do what Intel did" and go Ryzen 10X00 and Radeon 100XX, or will they do a classic AMD and not stick to any particular naming scheme for more than a brief moment.

[@sarunaskalvaitis8698]

5090-1799 USD. 50% perf. 4090 5080-999 USD. 10% perf. 4090 5070ti-799 USD. -5% perf. 4090

[@JynxedKoma]

5080-999 USD - 1,200 USD Brand Partner Price

[@Nothingisimpressive]

This should be the real pricing in this economy, but they are Ngreedia won't let that pass. 😅

[@lacm81]

I’d buy a 5070ti if it was that price for 5% less than a 4090. Easy. But one can hope

[@nanonym3]

5090 $1999 5080 $999 -10% 4090

[@andersjjensen]

Why on earth would they do that? Everything suggests that AMD will have nothing that can compete above the 5070. Maaaaybe it will get close to the 5070ti. If you think Nvidia won't rectum ream everyone, when they have no competition, you clearly haven't observed their behavior over the past two decades.

[@newnumide]

Buying/Building a PC is becoming more and more like a major life investment like buying a house or a car, an investment that can be rendered obsolete in 2/3 years.

[@fboost]

As a 4090 owner i must admit its getting to the point where it just doesnt make sense to game on pc. Games are poorly optimised,full of compilation stutters and poor frame times.you can just buy a ps5/pro and call it a day. And im a person who has upgraded every time nvidia released gpu cards since the 8800 series. But im done buying video cards. Once my 4090 dies or no longer is competitive im switching to console exclusively.

[@Osprey850]

I'll never quit gaming on PC, but I am moving further and further away from playing new, demanding games. The experience is better if I wait several years until they're fully patched and I have hardware that can run them without any issues or compromises.

[@torchbearer3784]

When consoles can run 120 fps 1440p then there is no point of buying a pc unless you do other things with it. Maybe my rtx 4070 ti super is the last gpu I bought. ( bought it thanks to tax refunds otherwise I would not have bought it) These prices and the fact that game developers don't care about optimizing their games anymore I don't feel it is worth it anymore.

[@marsovac]

You can't game on a console anymore, and neither can I. We tried high quality 120 fps gaming. P.S. Console releases are also hit and miss lately.

[@fboost]

@marsovac my pc is connected to a 240hz oled ultrawide and yet I find myself playing AAA games on my ps5pro. Games like space marine 2 is a prime example where I bought it on pc, had issues, refunded it then bought on ps5pro and had a great trouble free experience.

[@turbo523]

16Gb Vram should never cost more than 1000$.

[@arch1107]

no desktop gpu should be close to that price, because it is a gpu, to run programs, not a used car to move your as around such prices perhaps are normal for servers, but on desktops this is just a crime

[@patgray5402]

*$500

[@haukikannel]

😂😂😂 Gpus cost as much as people will pay… and in nvidias case… they pay!

[@Thunderhawk51]

​@@haukikannel I wouldn't pay that even if I was a millionaire! 😂

[@andersjjensen]

@@arch1107 I don't get you guys. Like seriously. Nvidia took the name "Titan" off their fastest cards and called them "90" instead, and everyone is going "something I can't afford shouldn't exist!".... well it always did. You just happily ignored it until the name changed. So just keep ignoring it.

[@Skokan82]

This appears to be a case of social conditioning regarding Nvidia's pricing strategy. Even if the final prices are lower than the leaked figures, it is evident that Nvidia's prices will remain high. Unfortunately, some individuals may make unwise financial ("not smart") decisions to acquire these GPUs.