Rudiger Roll - No Ash - No Tools - All Natural - Fire Roll Friction Fire - On the spot - Primitive

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Boggy Creek Beast

Boggy Creek Beast

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@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
History of the Fire Roll and Evolution Video kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6fOpYR7e6Z2otE For those who think that I did not come up with all these variations using this method with substances such as Rust, Jute, Chaga etc; YOU are more than welcome to search the internet over and compare dates for yourself. Unlike some on KZbin, MY work using this method is original and speaks for itself. To see a Round Tree Branch with the bark still on it used for the hand hold with this method click here kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWSmkpJsn9uCmrM I recommend starting with cotton, ashes and milled lumber til you get used to this method. Here's a tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk Performing the Rudiger Roll, or Fire Roll, without ashes or tools is something that I've been doing for years and is one of my earlier innovations. When I first discovered this method only Cotton, ashes and milled lumber were being used. After research and experimentation I came up with numerous combinations using this method. I also took it upon myself to prove the efficiency of this method as an actual primitive fire making technique( my earliest video performing this method WITHOUT ASH or TOOLS is from Spring 2015 and can be seen here kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGaXkqdua8torcU ). It was very humid during the filming of the video above as evidenced by the sweat collecting on my rolling surfaces. I am using Dogbane in this video as the plant fiber. Nettle seems to actually work better at times when performing this method without ashes. Not sure why but I believe Nettle may have additional flammable properties that I'm not aware of. Either that or it just maintains its shape better than Dogbane when rolling. Either way I have used both without ashes before. In my opinion, using ash is a true primitive technique as well. If I actually had to rely on this method then I would definitely be using ashes. How To Identify Dogbane During Winter kzbin.info/www/bejne/noe4nKpqa519bZI
@ClayTallStories
@ClayTallStories 6 ай бұрын
Good work mate. I have made fire in every way known to man...or at least I thought I had until I watched a fire roll without ash. i have made plenty with but somehow you succeeded in harsh conditions. Well done brother!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 ай бұрын
​@@ClayTallStoriesI am so sorry I missed your post. I am spending more and more time on the trails 👣 I prefer the solitude of nature. With enough practice anyone can reproduce what you see in my videos. I do appreciate the kind words. Hope this message finds you and your family well. Take care.
@buckbuchanan4902
@buckbuchanan4902 5 жыл бұрын
I've been watching dozens of fire making videos and this is the first one where no knife, or man made materials were used. This is exactly what I have been looking for. thank you for sharing.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend starting with cotton, wood ashes and sawn planks for rolling surfaces. That is the easiest way to learn this method. True, I have done this numerous times without ashes, using wild plant fiber and on natural surfaces BUT I have been doing this for years. Here's an instructional that I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@IngeniousOutdoors
@IngeniousOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
ive tried repeatedly to show this technique to countless friends, family, and fellow survivalists and for some reason, even with proof as this being one of the most (if not THE most) effective fire starting method ive ever seen, people turn their nose up at it or dig in their heels and start talking about bow drills and hand drills and stuff. i never thought i would see Cognitive Dissonance at such a level, about a fire making technique. it blows my mind.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
I know right. People will walk right into the truth, fall down, get up, dust themselves off and continue on with what they're doing as if not noticing at all. I think its hilarious! LOL!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
It reminds me of how Bruce Lee was thought of when he introduced his theories on hand to hand combat. People were so caught up in all these silly traditional styles that they thought he was a nut. Now hes considered by many as the father of mixed martial arts.
@IngeniousOutdoors
@IngeniousOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast well regardless, ill keep carrying the torch. pun intended lol
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
@@IngeniousOutdoors I am not comparing myself to Mr. Lee. It was an example. People generally don't accept new ideas even when they maybe better than current methods. It can take a long time for something like this to be accepted.
@IngeniousOutdoors
@IngeniousOutdoors 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast honestly ,why not? i believe everyone should try to compare themselves to their idols. its a standard people might not be able to meet but if you stand for nothing, youll fall for anything as they say. theres nothing wrong with trying to live up to the standard of integrity and honor Mr. Beast :)
@willybee3056
@willybee3056 6 жыл бұрын
Tools , can get lost, broken, or stolen. But knowledge, don't weigh much, is easy to pack, and if you don't loose your mind, has a long shelf life. Thanks for sharing your videos. And keep up the good work.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
VERY WELL SAID. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. You have a good day.
@gregmccarter2176
@gregmccarter2176 Жыл бұрын
Many years ago I knew a old man that was born in early 1900s..he told me story's about how his grand father could make fires with anything that was god given...I bet this was one of the things you just done..pretty cool
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
May have been. Sounds like an interesting person
@AdventureTimeOutdoors
@AdventureTimeOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you can do this with a bucket of water and ice cream.... great stuff man. It is great to show another option besides hand drill, bow drill, fire saw and fire plough. I think this method is less taxing than all of those if you have the plant knowledge. Great job Tim. I hope all is well. 👍👍
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Its so good to hear from you friend! Sorry I haven't been around for a while. I already know that I'm going to have to play catch up. I hope you are doing well, Mark. You have a good evening buddy :)
@AdventureTimeOutdoors
@AdventureTimeOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast everything is great......well we could use some cold weather. It has been crazy hot this summer. More 40°c temps today. My Canadian backside is ready for some ice. Lol it was a great surprise to see a video pop up. It's been a while man. Great to see you in action.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
LOL! 40°c! You are having some rough days there friend! Most people here assume that its always cold in Canada....Geeeez! I guess NOT!
@AdventureTimeOutdoors
@AdventureTimeOutdoors 6 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Nope we had a month straight of that weather. Hottest day it was 46°c and 55°c in the metal shop. Absolute nightmare. Some leaves are starting to lose color so cool weather is on the way. FINALLY! 100°f in summer and -40°f in winter. Canada is messed up! Lol
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaamn! Mark, that is extreme! You guys have it rough up there! I think it has been hotter there than it has been here.
@peterloichtl4512
@peterloichtl4512 22 күн бұрын
Greatest fire making video all others make it harder than it has to be. I bet there are other natural or unnatural materials that can be firerolled like you show. If readers find something else that works without ash or other additives post here please.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 20 күн бұрын
I'll post all my Playlists below this one of all the materials, natural and man-made, that I personally came up with that will work with this method. The video above is from years back. I exhausted this method a long time ago. Below are Playlist links
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 19 күн бұрын
Cloth material kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSZsrmEh4v4QzKwJ5UaYXEKi&si=jYoXKnrlsVkYAWZb
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 19 күн бұрын
Wild Plants kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H&si=0Z_lFKrJQHWaEZPq
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 19 күн бұрын
Natural Accelerants- Ash substitutes kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSbwF9ZYN5JLCgUx1JS_H1fX&si=UpDNXsWwXdAHKzyA
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 19 күн бұрын
Chemical accelerants- Ash substitutes kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSZXpNLSv3j_qr13Zalqm_6u&si=T4RZTcwwDbRBF4wG
@ianbruce6515
@ianbruce6515 Жыл бұрын
WOW! That's what I like to see! No pre-prepared stuff! If you are going to get all geared up in advance --,might as well bring the matches and the Bic. Granted--using the cheats to gain experience, and ease your way in, is valuable. Don't want to scare people off and have them give up! Love to know what other fibers would work. Bast from certain trees, no doubt.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Here's a list of some of the plants I came up with to use with this method kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H
@longbowshooter5291
@longbowshooter5291 2 жыл бұрын
As others have stated, thank you for sharing this. While I have seen other rudiger roll videos, they all used ash and a planking of some kind, but this one helps in those truly unprepared situations that cause nightmares - absolutely no tools at all. Now I know if I can find two flat rocks, I can make a fire without any tools at all. That, in itself, might be a lifesaver.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
While I appreciate your comment, please allow me to be absolutely clear here. Performing this method without ashes can be difficult. I have been practicing this method for years. I have always told others to get comfortable with this method at home first with cotton, ashes and planks. Do that before moving on to natural material in small steps. Try cotton at home first then maybe try some wild plant at home next. Take small steps. Take care.
@longbowshooter5291
@longbowshooter5291 2 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Thanks for your reply. Oh yes, absolutely understand that! Been around way, way (don't ask!) too many years to think I can watch a video and conquer the wild. Actually I just recently found out about the rudiger roll method of fire starting, had never seen it before, so I started watching more of them, and yours showed me what COULD be done in an emergency. Yeah, like anything, I know that would take some time to master, but I wouldn't have known this method was even possible had I not seen your video. Something else to tuck into that empty corner of my mind. Enjoyed watching it, thank you.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
@@longbowshooter5291 Glad you understand as I certainly do not want to mislead anyone. You have a good night.
@BansheeFifteen
@BansheeFifteen 3 жыл бұрын
Very neat. I've been doing the Rudiger roll with cotton balls and wood ash rolled between two pieces of lumber, and have become very proficient at getting an ember and then to fire. Watched a lot of David West's videos and yours. Practice is really one of the keys. I was demonstrating this to a friend and he was amazed how I got to fire so quickly and almost effortlessly. One thing I've noticed is the sensation of a squeak and collapse of the roll. An indication of a successful start of an ember. But I've never tried just going out into a preserve and trying to find suitable materials. I was describing to my friend that I wear cotton T-shirts all the time and wouldn't hesitate sacrificing a square just to get some fibers that I could develop from grinding/tearing the swatch with a rock or something. I'm pretty much a "city boy" and don't have the knowledge like you about plants. But what I've learned here and from David, experimenting and trying goes a long way in a survival situation. It's better than sitting in the forest without a fire. On a humorous note, the g/f likes to call me McGiver. Ha. Thank You.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
LOL! The "McGiver " had me rolling! hahaha
@eclipsearchery9387
@eclipsearchery9387 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent method....I will be giving this a try...I love the 'simplicity' of it :) Thank you for taking the time to make the video :)
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Start at home with ideal materials before venturing outdoors. Heres a tutorial I made years ago( that I also reposted years ago, too LOL) kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@Mickiwalk
@Mickiwalk 3 ай бұрын
I was just wondering if it could be done with nettle fiber -- and you addressed it in the description. Plus other tips! Thanks! I tried this with cotton from a vitamin jar and charcoal briquettes ashes today, but only got things warmed up. I'll try it with cosmetics cotton tomorrow. Lol, may just go see if I can find some dry nettles, though!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 ай бұрын
Hey there, sorry I missed your post. Sounds like you are experimenting and having fun with this method. That's all I ever wanted for anyone. Have fun! It's an addictive thing
@Mickiwalk
@Mickiwalk 3 ай бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast No problem, Sir! I enjoyed several of your videos last night. Thanks!
@Greg_M1
@Greg_M1 10 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration! I learned something. Ash not required, necessarily.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. I would start with ashes, cotton and planks at home before moving on to natural materials. Gradually move on to using sourced material from the landscape.
@madisonciowa3920
@madisonciowa3920 6 жыл бұрын
I will never ever get tired of watching you do this.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
There she is!! Where you been girl? Good to hear from you friend :)
@madisonciowa3920
@madisonciowa3920 6 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast I have been making some changes. I will probably be back in the spring or summer. 😊
@meldeweese6875
@meldeweese6875 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Great info. / demo ! Yes, HUMIDITY , has never been my friend - from home Illinois to Vietnam . Yes, all the jungles I have been in suxed ! - Philippines 3 yrs duty, Panama, Costa Rica, Thailand, others and the Amazon " rainforest ". N.C. , Fla. , Texas and more , I stay clear of. Now in Heaven since 1987, W. Colorado, USA , Amen ! Mtn Mel , Ret. USN SERE. .
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Yeah man. Humidity is a killer for sure. Happy 4th
@MacheteBushcraftAustralia
@MacheteBushcraftAustralia 4 жыл бұрын
Mate, I'm very impressed! I was on here researching different fire making methods, particularly ones that require found materials.You nailed it. That's a thumbs up and a sub from me. All the best from sweaty and humid OZ, Ben
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend starting at home with cotton, ashes and milled lumber for rolling surfaces. I have a large playlist of wild plant fibers, Nettle, Milkweed, Yucca, etc, that can be substituted instead of cotton once you're familiar with the mechanics. Here is a tutorial I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@bellowphone
@bellowphone 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is exactly what I wanted to see. A cotton ball and ashes will work great, but only if you have them! Matches are great too, if you have them. But here you have shown us that fire can be made with nothing but what you find in the woods. Well done, and thank you.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Please hear me out. I have a lot of practice time in with this method. Going out in the wilderness and making fire with nothing can be extremely difficult. Yes, it can be done like in the video above but do not let that mislead you. I believe in being prepared as opposed to skills demonstrated in my videos. My personal fire kit is TOTAL OVERKILL...as everybody's should be IMHO. Have fun with primitive methods but do not leave that BIC Lighter at home. Take care.
@bellowphone
@bellowphone 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Yes, I realize it is not as easy as you make it look. I already know a few primitive fire making skills, such as flint-and-steel, bow drill, and fire-piston. All of those took me a certain amount of practice before I could do them well. And now, just a few days ago I learned about the fire roll, which I had never heard of before. So I tried it with the cotton ball and ashes method, and after a few tries I finally got it to work. But I am always looking to find ways of making fire that don't require having some materials beforehand, such as a cotton ball for instance, or some charcloth or charred punkwood, for the flint and steel. So when I found your video and saw what is possible with purely found materials from the woods, I was very interested. I know it will take me a lot of practice and experimenting before I can actually do it, but now I at least see what is possible. Incidentally, I have experimented with twisting native fibers for making bow drill strings. My most successful cord was made with fiber stripped from native New Jersey yucca leaves. Keep up the good work, and take care.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellowphone I seriously just want others to know the truth and am glad you took my message the right way. Have you seen my Caveman Concept video? I thought you might enjoy that. BTW, am watching some of your videos. You are a very talented musician! You are also very handy when it comes to construction. Impressive. Subbed.
@bellowphone
@bellowphone 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast I just watched your Caveman Concept video, and also the Dogbane fiber extraction video. Good stuff. I don't recall seeing dogbane around my neck of the woods, but I plan to look for it, and also to check out other fibrous plants that might work for fire starting and also for making cordage. We do have plenty of milkweed around here, and I see that you use that too. Thank you for your kind words about my videos; I'm glad you like them.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
@@bellowphone Yucca is a plant that I came up with to use with this method 5-6 years ago. I see that you mentioned it previously so here is a video that I made a few years back using a coin to strip the fiber and demo the Rudiger Roll kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZ6TfmupZcZ6ick
@abcstardust
@abcstardust 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting this excellent video. Now fires can be started with or without ashes in the Rudiger Roll!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 10 ай бұрын
It can be done but making this work without ashes can be difficult. I've had lots of practice. Experiment at home with perfect material before moving on to natural.
@meldeweese6875
@meldeweese6875 3 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT , Amazing Info. Thank You for the exact .demo. Mtn Mel & Aussie Molly Blue in W. Colorado. 😊
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. This is an older video but people seem to like it. Hope you are doing good
@nwprimate6416
@nwprimate6416 6 жыл бұрын
Good stuff BCB! It is great to see you posting again and I hope this is just one of many new videos to come. I've gotten to the point where cotton is easy, but I haven't had any luck with natural fibers yet. Thanks for the motivation to try again and for all the work you've done with this method. 👍
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks NW Primate Hopefully, I can post more videos soon. There has to be something that will work in your area. Thank you too friend
@nwprimate6416
@nwprimate6416 6 жыл бұрын
I'm sure there are plenty of suitable materials, I just have to keep at it and build the skill. I've gotten close with nettles and had the fibers smoking when I stopped rolling, but can never get them to sustain.
@kingsburybushcraft8794
@kingsburybushcraft8794 6 жыл бұрын
I have had a lot of success this year with the down from willow catkins using iron pyrites and flint, I forgot to try the rudiger roll but I'm sure it would work easily, worth a try if you can find some in your area.
@charanckck
@charanckck 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing bro. Knowledge is priceless
@cutbaitkenny
@cutbaitkenny 5 жыл бұрын
man that is the coolest fire making video ever, I never knew you could make fire like this. Thank you for showing me how
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. I recommend starting with cotton, ashes and milled lumber for rolling surfaces. Here's an instructional I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@waqup4054
@waqup4054 2 жыл бұрын
Mean bro! All Natural...Just what I've been looking for, chers!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a good day.
@deborahpadgett2417
@deborahpadgett2417 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty darned cool, thanks for sharing another way of starting fires. Another tool for the tool box.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! Have a good night
@SKYHAWK0115
@SKYHAWK0115 5 жыл бұрын
Boggy creek .....You are a magician of fire ! Great fire making video ! Thanks, Billy
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
You can do the very same with some practice. I recommend starting with cotton, ashes and milled lumber for rolling surfaces. Here's an instructional I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@doctorbea
@doctorbea 2 жыл бұрын
Bro, this was super awesome to watch...truly a phenomenal share!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@bernarddaniels9766
@bernarddaniels9766 4 жыл бұрын
Cool man you are the king of fire starting. May the Lord bless you with more of his wisdom and when he does will you please share them thank you so much.
@AnthonyThomasLim
@AnthonyThomasLim 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Boggy Creek Beast, I really enjoy your videos. I was thinking of doing a beginner friendly video of the easiest friction fire using no tools with finding 2 trees (cedar bark and Pine bark) to create a rudiger roll setup. With a focus of comparing it to the other friction fire methods and the difficulty to get the others right and needing plant knowledge to get the right spindle and hearthboard combinations. Basically, friction fire for dummies video. Cedar and pine can be found all over the USA which helps me because more than half of the plants you use for your fire roll, I don't have in my area. Because cedar and Pine are easy to spot by bark alone as well and being some of the only evergreens in the winter, beginners can identify and use these trees easier than any other tree wood combinations in all 50 states. A lot of thought is going to this video and I especially want to credit you for the initial popularizing of this technique.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a good idea for a video. Let me know how it goes. Have a good day.
@kennethrosbury2819
@kennethrosbury2819 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for that very intense video awesome always great to learn something new especially a skill like that keep up the great video
@bfsr08
@bfsr08 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks as ever, Tim. I bet Otzi the Ice Man wished he had you around in the Stone Age too! Glad to see you back.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Great hearing from you friend! Hope you have been well :)
@taticalwoodsman7074
@taticalwoodsman7074 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome thanks for your time uploading and sharing 👍🇺🇸
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. I recommend starting at home with Cotton, ashes and some type of milled lumber for rolling surfaces. Here is an instructional I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@PsyloSatan
@PsyloSatan 4 жыл бұрын
Watching all these fire roll technique videos on the Tube has been a lot of fun and your "no tools" variety is one of the best of it's kind I've seen yet. I saw a video on Adam West's channel that I think would deal with that sweat problem and maybe the ants too. He rolled against an upright tree while standing up and got ignition just as well. Gravity takes care of the sweat drops and at the same time is much easier to identify if you are about to set up your operation on an insect habitat.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is you just can't get enough downward pressure when using wild plant fiber without ashes like you see me doing above. Ashes make this method so easy that even a small child can do it. You will need a much more stable surface and one that allows you to exert more pressure when working without ashes. I've already used the side of a tree while standing way back in 2014 when I first discovered this method. It was fun to play with and I still do it sometimes. Actually my friend Jay Reily had a video showing that side of the tree method back then and was the first to come up with that. So he gets the credit. Cotton and ash is easy to get an ember with and can be done on almost any surface. Doing this with ALL natural material without ash is totally different than using cotton and ashes. Have a good day and Happy Halloween :)
@PsyloSatan
@PsyloSatan 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Well that's another reason I love watching these type of videos. I've learned the hard way that things don't always work out how you planned on several occasions (plenty of times due to overlooked variables like you mentioned) and it's better to be wrong in practice than when you have to rely on it in an emergency. Thanks for the correction. That being said, I have yet to find a video where a good, no-tools style replacement (preferably several) for wood ash can be found just laying around. I've already got the cotton replaced with this super dry stuff (even easy to ignite when wet) that grows on the evergreens around here. I live in Juneau Alaska and it is dripping wet about 75% of the time here so getting past that moisture hurdle is most important to me, and alternatives for getting an ember so easy a child can do it while still not using tools is exactly what I want to find.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
@@PsyloSatan You live in an, how should I say this, Inhospitable place when it comes to fire! LOL! I can imagine the challenges you face. You must be an advanced level fire maker at this point. The great thing and problem with the fire roll lies in its simplicity when using ashes. So many people can't seem to get it to work without ashes. I can get it to work without ashes but I have had a lot of practice. That's why it may seem easy when I do that in my videos. Ashes just supply so much more traction when rolling that it just seems TOO simple. Like I said, a child can do it with ashes and cotton on a variety of surfaces. My daughter was 11 the first time she tried and even she got it, with coaching of course, on her FIRST try. She thought it was neat but didn't attempt again until a year later when she was 12(I have a video on my channel of that). As far as an ash alternative is concerned, well, lets just say that ash is king! I have come up with so many alternatives to ash that I lost count (I even have dozens of videos with new material that I have not released yet). That said, ash still has all of them beat when it comes to traction. It just grips surfaces like no other. I look at this method as a complement to other friction fire methods. Once ash has been established, provided you have plenty of wild plant fiber and rolling surfaces, its just so much easier than those other methods. This would be my go to method IF lighters, firesteels and matches were no longer available in some apocalyptic world. And you better believe I would be using the ASHES! LOL!
@stephengriffn9277
@stephengriffn9277 3 жыл бұрын
Great demo and instructional. A similar technique was described using raw cotton in the Soviet gulags. If you are interested, it was described in Alexander Dolgun's Story. He was a member of the U.S. embassy in Moscow, kidnapped off the street by the kgb and sent to a labor camp. It was also the first time I read of the Russian tap code and the criminal infrastructure in the prisons.
@chiefkirk
@chiefkirk 6 жыл бұрын
Great job Tim. I did not know that you could do a Rudiger roll without ashes. Way too cool pal.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, it can be done. I have several videos were I demonstrate this. I want to say though that it can be tricky without ashes. I still prefer using ashes and other accelerants with this method.
@seanfactor4009
@seanfactor4009 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank you for the video and for sharing you knowledge and skills.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. That said, I always tell others to start at home with cotton, ashes and planks. Have a good day.
@ReWildUniversity
@ReWildUniversity 6 жыл бұрын
Good to see you are back, Tim, inspiring us all as always! You always set a new bar for us all to work toward! Thanks for the knowledge, skills, and inspiration, my Fire Guru! =) Kenton
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Kenton!! Hope you're doing well friend! You always inspire and teach us with your videos :)
@ReWildUniversity
@ReWildUniversity 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend -- I appreciate that, especially coming from someone I respect so much!
@olddanb1
@olddanb1 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent training. Thank you.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@samcruickshanks6856
@samcruickshanks6856 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge, great video
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Have a good day
@admobeer9551
@admobeer9551 Жыл бұрын
I'm impressed, to say the least. I would have bet money that you couldn't make that happen. Bet's off of the table now.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
With enough practice it can happen. Same with the other methods I use. You have a good day.
@twalk6164
@twalk6164 2 жыл бұрын
absolutely outstanding! thank you for this proof! I started doing cotton fire rolls because of you. I have noticed the fine gray ash guarantees an ember. I look forward to summer and the chance to try this 100% natural approach. thank you again!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a good night.
@NathansFerroceriumrods1
@NathansFerroceriumrods1 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Welcome back Tim.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Nathan! Thank you friend :)
@robertfleming387
@robertfleming387 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Simple. TY. Friction Fire made simple.....👊
@RobChatburn
@RobChatburn 6 жыл бұрын
You are the master! I need to try this
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just a regular guy friend. Thank you for your kind words. I recommend starting with cotton, ashes, and good straight rolling surfaces.
@richardkibler3870
@richardkibler3870 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!Thanx for opening my eyes to one more Essential method of fire creation!& You did it in the Humidity of The South,That is one heck of an Achievment!Thank You Sir!!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you enjoyed. You can do this, too. I recommend starting with cotton, ashes, and sawn planks (or maybe a brick base). Here is a tutorial that I made for a friend - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk Be sure to watch part 2.
@eldonryder6385
@eldonryder6385 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet video! You have developed a talent there. Thanks for sharing it with us. ATB, Eldon 😀
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Have a nice day
@randywithofapt2660
@randywithofapt2660 4 жыл бұрын
very impressive work
@joeyjoejoejr.shabadu8857
@joeyjoejoejr.shabadu8857 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video thanks! Good explanatory process.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like the video. Have a good weekend :)
@antoniorosa4895
@antoniorosa4895 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing! I need to try this method.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
I recommend starting at home with Cotton, ashes and milled lumber. Here's a tutorial that I made for a friend PART 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk PART 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j57FeHWIdsaEfdU
@kennedy67951
@kennedy67951 2 жыл бұрын
Nicely done Mate.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Take care
@seandadon4884
@seandadon4884 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊!!!! Now I have a new skill that I can barter with!!!!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy. I recommend starting with the basics. Begin practicing with cotton, ashes and 2X4's at home. Here's a tutorial kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@seandadon4884
@seandadon4884 2 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Just subscribed!!! 😁
@mickeywilsonbushcraftandsu2513
@mickeywilsonbushcraftandsu2513 6 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Big thumbs up to ya. Even with sweat on it you got it. Awesome
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the kind words. You have a good night.
@fsj197811
@fsj197811 Жыл бұрын
Excellent, thanks for sharing.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@buttskinner8977
@buttskinner8977 Жыл бұрын
Good job thank you!
@markpeatrowsky3023
@markpeatrowsky3023 4 жыл бұрын
Great info/demo!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed :)
@jamesmain2730
@jamesmain2730 2 жыл бұрын
I have been wondering if dog bane would work by itself! Thanks!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a good evening.
@tommyboles6561
@tommyboles6561 Жыл бұрын
My second time watching this, and am amazed there was no ash . Heard David West recommend this channel and was not disappointed. Great video!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video. It can be done without ash. Just takes practice.
@EastGrandWoodsman
@EastGrandWoodsman 6 жыл бұрын
This Method is a great woodsman bush tool. Thank you for posting it and the link.
@survivorjohnny44
@survivorjohnny44 3 жыл бұрын
U r the world champion 🏆
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
Its been so long but aren't you the same guy from years ago? Your channel name changed?
@survivorjohnny44
@survivorjohnny44 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast I am. KZbin changed my channel name for unknown reason. But some things never change, you impressed me once again with your video
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
@@survivorjohnny44 Of course I know you!! How are you doing my friend?? You don't post videos anymore. You should. I post videos as often as I can. Not as many as I used to but I think my videos are better today than in the past. You should go check out my vids. Heck, I even include some not relative to fire making. I just felt like sharing. To tell you the truth John, not well here. Its up and down for me. Went through something few people will ever experience 20 years ago. I can't discuss that but in the last 2 years I've had to come to terms with it. Not pleasant. Nightmares, PTSD, Survivors guilt, etc; I haven't resorted to recreational medication like some have but I did drink sometimes to help me sleep. No one will ever really know me, John. That's the sad thing.
@survivorjohnny44
@survivorjohnny44 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast I know enough about you to know you have à good heart. I have only posted 1 or 2 videos since my divorce. God really blessed me through the divorce, I get my kids whenever they aren't in school (almost) so that's about 180 days a year. I just don't really have time to do videos anymore now. Between work and time with my kids there isn't much time left. I'm sure sorry to hear that you are dealing with issues but if it helps, I find a lot of comfort for my problems in God's love. I remember you being a believer don't I?
@jamesloughran9350
@jamesloughran9350 5 жыл бұрын
Very, impresive..fire is a necessity in the wild, it makes sense to try every method, but this roll without tools is exciting..God willing i will give this a try in 2020, about to subscribe 👍👍👍
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
I recommend starting at home with cotton, ashes and milled lumber for rolling surfaces before moving on to the all natural version as in the video above. Here is a tutorial that I made for a friend Part 1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/j57FeHWIdsaEfdU
@jamesloughran9350
@jamesloughran9350 5 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast i appreciate the vids and the encouragement thank you
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Have a good day :)
@johnruckman2320
@johnruckman2320 Жыл бұрын
Interesting! Where did the name Rudiger roll come from? At the moment I'm not sure if Dogbane grows here on the east side of Klamath mountains CA. And the flat rocks, what there are, are brittle. What other primitive techniques have you used depending on the area you're in?
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
I came up with that name. Check my origins video for more information.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Just look around my channel. The hand drill is a big one for me.
@T37912
@T37912 6 жыл бұрын
Just amazing. Thank you for the lesson. Alain
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed. Tim
@LANDSEAAIRCANADA
@LANDSEAAIRCANADA 6 жыл бұрын
That is impressive Thanks for this Great to see you back at it {:-)
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
HEY MY FRIENDS!!!! SO GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU!!!!
@fuegoindomito
@fuegoindomito 6 жыл бұрын
Wow Tim you're the best!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Gus!! How are you my friend?? Hope all is well :)
@fuegoindomito
@fuegoindomito 6 жыл бұрын
I'm fine, Tim. I've been living in France for two years. I got married with a wonderful girl and now we have a baby boy who is almost one year old. Between the work, family and other things i have abandoned my channel but i'll be back... soon i hope. I continue to practice fire-making, but much less. It's always good to see your videos, inspirational as always. Do you know Zerimar Wildnat's channel, he made a video with Rüdiger Roll technique and we talk about you in the comentaries. Well my friend, a big hug for you.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
So good to hear from you my friend! Congratulations on the wife and child! May God bless you all! I will check out your friends channel. You take care Gus :)
@samthai818
@samthai818 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Dogbane is more common than milkweed, so easy to find along the roadside. The cedar tinder bundle, have you ever tried to fire roll that by itself?
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Yes, I have. It's NOT very good for the fire roll. Very difficult to get an ember. I do have a video using it but don't recommend that fiber. Cedar makes a great tinder bundle though.
@junkmail4613
@junkmail4613 4 жыл бұрын
That was impressive!!!
@njdunson
@njdunson 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Thank you for the video.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. Have a good evening :)
@njdunson
@njdunson 6 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Subscribed and looking forward to more of your videos!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I'll sub your channel, too. I recommend starting with cotton, ashes and some kind of flat surfaces (2X4's, Planks, Brick base) til you get used to this method. The following link is a tutorial that I made for a friend kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXjSYXiMerGFnNk
@countsmyth
@countsmyth 2 жыл бұрын
This one is amazing!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a good evening friend.
@darkfuhart9626
@darkfuhart9626 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much but I have 1 question does this work with any dry soft trees bark or only the Indian hemp?
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
I have used this method without ashes with nearly all the plants that can be found on my channel. I've personally come up with over 25 plants that can be used with this method. I've yet to release all my material over this method. Here are some of the plant fibers that I've used kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H I recommend that others become proficient with using cotton and ashes on milled lumber before attempting what you see above. The use of ashes is a primitive technique, too. Primitive people were using ash for various purposes for a long time.
@darkfuhart9626
@darkfuhart9626 4 жыл бұрын
Boggy Creek Beast thank you for the reply
@B-leafer
@B-leafer 2 жыл бұрын
Outstanding
@jesseherbert2585
@jesseherbert2585 2 жыл бұрын
You kind sir are a Maestro of elegant fire skills!! Question (if you are still reading comments on this older post): do you think the rock dust played a similar role as ashes play, perhaps helping the heat build up and stay in the roll, perhaps adding to the friction the rolling generates? Thank you again for such an epic demonstration!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Most likely it certainly did. I have done this without ashes numerous times but it can be problematic. I like to think of this method as a complement to all friction fire methods. You have a good night.
@billrayvan6857
@billrayvan6857 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to know ... Thanks for this fyi video
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@user-qt2bc1my6m
@user-qt2bc1my6m 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this information.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Hope its useful.
@rvrandy1710
@rvrandy1710 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@CountryHitsUSA
@CountryHitsUSA Жыл бұрын
Great Video!!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a good evening
@Waldhandwerk
@Waldhandwerk 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome as usual!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks my friend! Hope you are doing well :)
@xenaguy01
@xenaguy01 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing!
@davidf4958
@davidf4958 6 жыл бұрын
Very impressive and useful. Those must have been fire ants? Looking forward to the next video!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed
@ivanabidin2077
@ivanabidin2077 3 жыл бұрын
amazing❤️
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed. Have a nice day.
@keeponpainting
@keeponpainting 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@johnknappingthings271
@johnknappingthings271 Жыл бұрын
Now that was sick
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Its a fun method to play around with.
@TonyTooTuff
@TonyTooTuff Жыл бұрын
Always wondered why this method isn’t used more often on those survival shows. As far as friction fire goes, this one uses less energy to produce an ember
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@MrZluvu4ever
@MrZluvu4ever 4 жыл бұрын
@Boggy Creek Beast Hey Boggy, your huge fan here with a few questions & a statement : @t much harder is it without ashes ?2.What are the subtle differences in technique if there are any between ash-less & with ash 3.What do you think are the biggest causes of roll failure and disintegration of the roll itself from rolling? I suspect that the fluff & dust of failed ash-less rolls can be reused as a substitute for ash (why waste effort!?) What are your thoughts!? Thanks so much!!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Can I get back with you in a few days? Am so sorry. Working 2 jobs right now. You would be right to reuse a failed roll. They can help sometimes.
@MrZluvu4ever
@MrZluvu4ever 4 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Absolutely sir, much appreciation!!!
@1lifeonearth
@1lifeonearth 3 жыл бұрын
wait, did you put anything inside the roll in exchange for the ash? or is it just 100 percent hemp or whatever with nothing inside?
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
Just 100% Dogbane. Nothing else. I have other videos demonstrating this method without ashes or some substitute. It can be done
@1lifeonearth
@1lifeonearth 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast Wow that's amazing!!! Thanks!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
@@1lifeonearth With practice, you CAN do the very same. That said, the use of ash is a primitive technique. Primitive people all over the globe have been using ashes for various purposes for millennia. Not for the method above BUT definitely for other things like gardening, pottery, etc; So, ashes are indeed a renewable primitive resource.
@linklesstennessee2078
@linklesstennessee2078 6 жыл бұрын
Good job Boggy creek
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks friend! :)
@nopewontyou
@nopewontyou 2 жыл бұрын
would u in theory be able to do this with any wood that is fibrous enough and dry?
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 2 жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the plant fiber being rolled? Here's a list of plant fibers I came up with that can be used kzbin.info/aero/PLPUSw5w2ZpSax0D2cEDbmq8le400JmF6H
@phyllismulkey3778
@phyllismulkey3778 6 жыл бұрын
awesome
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Take care
@houndogbbq
@houndogbbq 5 жыл бұрын
Wow good job
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 5 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@chickenfriedbobcat6090
@chickenfriedbobcat6090 6 жыл бұрын
I believe the addition of ashes increases friction thus increasing heat. It's possible the powdered rock was performing the same function. Just like adding too much ash will cause a failure, too much powdered rock would. Pure speculation but it seems possible.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 6 жыл бұрын
Ashes do increase friction. As well, they increase traction or grip and they are also an insulator holding in heat. Stone dust doesn't make a good ash substitute. Just like I say in the video during the rolling part, too much rock dust could potentially snuff an ember out. I have several other videos demonstrating this without ashes. I use wooden hand holds in those videos.
@ivengideonv6428
@ivengideonv6428 4 жыл бұрын
Ive been to two hog callings . And two county fairs and aint seen nothin like that
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
HaHaHa!!!
@161gizmo
@161gizmo 4 жыл бұрын
Great
@fabianleguel2960
@fabianleguel2960 Жыл бұрын
Awesome,thanks!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@LowellBoggs
@LowellBoggs 3 жыл бұрын
outstanding!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like it!
@dllehman142
@dllehman142 4 жыл бұрын
Well done. Thank you.
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed.
@atosef7038
@atosef7038 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing !!!
@boggycreekbeast
@boggycreekbeast 3 жыл бұрын
With practice you can do the same. Have a good day :)
@atosef7038
@atosef7038 3 жыл бұрын
@@boggycreekbeast I will try, for sure. Thanks for sharing
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