Do England lack the quality to beat the All Blacks and Springboks | Boks Office

[@ljawgtn1393]

As a NZer!, (and a female too it must be said!) Of all the rugby podcasts and channels I watch, The Bok Office stands out as the best. Of course I enjoyed this episode, with the in-depth discussion about our team, and you are right --- England lost that match due to their top 2 inches rather than us defeating them convincingly. But what elevates The Bok Office in my opinion, is the caliber of its hosts. Their intelligence, fairness, and respectfulness make for insightful discussions, one of the many reasons why we respect and hold South Africa in such high regard. Wishing the Springboks the best of luck in the North. Up the Southern Hemisphere! 🖤🤍💚💛

[@Ralve_]

Always unbiased in their assessment. Other podcasts can learn a thing or two.

[@wesrobmat]

I love the ABs. Good Luck against the Irish.

[@Aesyrbane]

Well said!

[@darlyballsman5403]

Hear hear!

[@tyroneholmes6354]

They also seem to have so much fun! Very light hearted and great banter. Most other sports and podcasts are so serious and judgemental but this is good old fashioned fun!

[@pjclaasen4599]

Nick is great value. Get him on the show more often!

[@siviwemxuma7981]

Schalla better be doing some coaching on the side. His game analysis and game knowledge, it's top tier.

[@SeanLarkan]

JdV is a master ‘manager’ of these discussions; good touches & one can see why he was such an incredible skipper of the Boks. Nice to see the respect shown for other countries & their players.

[@christiancatley4120]

As a New Zealander, I love watching these shows, Massive up to you all from Gold Coast Australia

[@Munkey92]

Nick is an absolute LEGEND!!! We're lucky to have him in South African Rugby circles.

[@AndyFairlie]

Never clicked so fast, welcome back boys!

[@AngusFraser-n8t]

Welcome back!

[@generalmoralhazard]

Ohhhh, awesome to see Nick. He has so much to offer on these discussions and analysis. Great rugby man!

[@ianbrodie5051]

Great having the 3. Missed Shimmy really enjoy hin.

[@neillister1635]

Tactically this show is a master class, the knowledge and insights just flow, no bashing anyone....just world class Manne.

[@kenvenn1848]

Lovely to see the banter between these three. All legends on and off the field.

[@vaughanlancellas495]

Scallas rugby knowledge is astounding, the names the plays and his memory of games past is just brilliant.

[@nelisvangeest9215]

Loved seeing Nick Mallet there. Such a legend!! Would like to see him more on the show.

[@GaryHennink]

Best show to date!!! Loved the questions from Jean and the interaction, analysis and story telling by all 3!!!

[@sinobiasolomons1200]

I missed the show. Great to have you guys back. One of the best rugby pods around.💯

[@siix477]

Best analysis Ive have seen. Three absolute legends who know what they are talking about. Refreshing. Get tired of the youtubers who have so much to say about nothing because they never made a first 15. I like that SB is wearing black!

[@cwstone1]

These guys show way more respect to us (NZ/All Blacks) than our commentators like Jeff Wilson and JK. This has to be one of the best podcasts about rugby.

[@lonmtongana2186]

Welcome back guys. I really missed this show.

[@lizilemanona]

WE NEED NICK ON BOKS OFFICE AND THE VERDICT , PLEASE!!!! (Everyone Iike this comment)

[@iainbeattie2970]

Great show lads and Nick Mallett was a fantastic guest. A weekend of rugby to savour kicking off with Ireland v ABs - this will be really close but Ireland probably favourites to reinforce their 1 ranking.Strong squad plus experienced coaching team just gives them the edge imho. As for Boks v Scotland it will be a match which SA power and physicality will give them the platform for success. As a Scot I just look at the Bok forwards with huge envy - the strength in depth is amazing and now they have added some attacking flair they are an even more dangerous side. We have not had a forward pack which other nations fear for what seems like decades and are therefore doomed to struggle against the top teams . So probable wins for all home nations bar Scotland

[@vp0029]

The boys are back!!

[@gigtimes]

Schalk is an unbelievable intelligent commentator. Just love listening to these guys. I love the lack of ego's - which destroys the kiwi shows...

[@MsRob1958]

Good to see you Nick, great chat as always!! Miss Shimmi though!! Go Bokke!!

[@legomanyeh]

Outstanding podcast 👏 great insights. What a pleasure.

[@brettsweet1]

Nick is pure class. Keep him on the show.

[@rorysteyn9805]

Well done Nic, you’ve enhanced an already great show, but specifically for mentioning Franco Smith’s role as DOR in Italy for what has become a very competitive international side. He received almost no recognition for that, but just look at what he’s achieved in just two years with Glasgow Warriors: two years, two Finals. Lost the 2023 EPCR, won the 2024 URC. He’s proper! 🙌

[@hithere3035]

England fan but love listening to these guys and their opinion of the games, i think they're on a whole very accurate. I didn't go to the game this time i had no idea tickets were £160. Even sadder than this was the fact that the game wasn't even available on free tv. A ENGLAND game at HOME you would expect it to be free and available to everybody at home to watch they put the game was behind a paywall. It wasn't even on Sky Sports, which is a popular channel in the UK because they have alot of live sports available, it costs £34.99 but you get some value for money because you can watch rugby, football, f1, golf and other sports. But this England game they didn't even show on Sky Sports, they put it on another channel called TNT Sports which is £30.99 a month... really pathetic. I don't know who's idea it is but it's very wrong. They sell out our stadium to a German insurance company Allianz which is suppose to benefit England then put the games behind a pay pall.

[@Stormer-Europa]

dude you have a gov, left and right, driving mad inflation and taxes. Nasty.

[@hithere3035]

​@@Stormer-Europa Not exactly sure what the government has to do with my comment but all of the West have been suffering with high cost of living and higher taxes, it's not just our government. Even countries away from Europe like America and Austalia.. most of europe all have inflation and high taxes.

[@ljawgtn1393]

"It will always be Twickenham to us"!

[@vaughanlancellas495]

Understand your frustration have the same problem here in SA, any international game is only covered by multichoice, R 1000,00 per month.

[@sebholm9688]

Agree fully

[@TonyStephens-v4z]

Great show Gents from a Kiwi as

[@schalkvandermerwe4178]

Welcome back guys. Top Tier entertainment.

[@davewilloughby8066]

Nice to see you boys back, thanks for the great show, don't know what I am going to do until the next internationals. Schalla for coach when Rassie gets tired ??

[@kingismyrealname1191]

ahh man i missed the Boks office

[@davidridersmith5434]

Excellent

[@jeremychandler3569]

Thoroughly enjoy listening to a gentleman like Nick Mallet.

[@keithtomlinson1585]

Loved the show - brilliant as always, Nick adds a nice dimension

[@richardbailie5560]

Such a brilliant show. Well done.

[@Wolf-hh4rv]

Great conversation 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@kreef78]

I liked the referee telling the players that not all head contact is foul play. Spot on!

[@horfieldboy9478]

Great show and spot on re England. Sad to hear you didn't take the England job back in 2011 or 2016. Would have been great to have you as our coach!

[@peterwomersley]

you snooze you loose :))

[@horfieldboy9478]

@@peterwomersley Can't argue with that!

[@gavinsleater2463]

Great show

[@keithtomlinson1585]

Sadly I don’t go to games much to my sadness, simply not affordable anymore. £160 a ticket turns into much more after travel, food and dop. I can subscribe, have biltong, flings, dop and all sorts for a quarter of the price with my whole family - and it’s warm in my lounge

[@colingibson5966]

Irish fan.. I've only seen clips of Nick Mallet doing punditry, never noticed how gigantic he is, imagine making Schalk look normal sized. Hands like shovels! I like these 3, no ego, its just like listening to guys chatting rugby down the pub for hours.

[@RandallJeromeVanDerMerwe]

You 100%right the problem with the English is that when they win small battles they go on like they won the game but then forget to make the right decisions in game planning.

[@jarednel3671]

Love Nick Mallet! Also, I do like the Haka. I just think both teams need to treat the situation with respect. We want New Zealand to come over to Ellis Park and do the Haka for example. But its also a privilege for them that they are allowed to do it on international land. The crowd should be allowed to sing as loud as they want and get behind their own team. We don't need NZ to come over and be too comfortable. I also enjoy it when teams challenge it respectfully as England have done a couple of times. Makes for a great spectacle.

[@larrymeyer2917]

So too does the 99RWC Bok captain haunt me, Teich should never have been dropped, that team was as bonded as Rassie’s team today.

[@JonathanBowles-1986]

Massive difference between Nic on SS vs Nic here. He is much more natural here and feeds off the others.

[@gertusvandervyver2190]

Just starting the video... wonder how many times Nick is gonna slap Schalk on the leg

[@cliffardgerber3830]

Now its getting on my nerves 😂😂😂

[@Camcolito]

Take a shot every time time Nick hits that beef!

[@TommieRichards]

good show. enjoyed Nick

[@lancecherry4516]

was at WC final 95, and cardiff .... best interview/chat i've seen for years!!!!!! so good to listen to! ... and none of u were at ellis park? or were you, ou oom nick?:)

[@peterwomersley]

Sasha will captain at some stage

[@Andy-Capp]

I don’t think they lack the quality. They just lack the right head coach. He’s too conservative like most England managers in all sports. It’s a let’s not lose mentality rather than let’s go a win.

[@chantalottino1671]

Great show❤

[@marksimpson289]

Three of my favourite rugby Pundits. Jean did well to redirect Nick when he was going down the SA ticket prices debate.

[@Thembisile13]

Nick Mallett did get fired for his comments on Ticket Prices - I have it on good authority. I'll never forget that - The 2003 Bok team would've been much more competitive had he stayed on.

[@peterwomersley]

always had a peoblem with authority Super inte;llectual doesnt tollefrate fools lightly

[@mjribes]

The 20min red is a crock. Schalk is right - the issue is that the red threshold is too low. Keep the red as it is and stop handing it out for non-malicious mistakes. That way the really naughty boys get properly punished, and the game benefits from less reds

[@JohnTerblanche-l1r]

If wr says a player cant go head first, like props do in the red zone, the game is over as it is. The whole reasons of head first is to get low gravety to make more meters. This has been happening since dawn of rugby, go watch 95' wc and you'll see this. Players purposely do this cause they know it will be harder for opposition to properly stop them and their momentum. Damian D.A does this tactic when going for a crash ball to make more meters. WR honestly needs to calm down, all the new changes has given us a nice fast spectacle now. But you cant take the physicality out of rugby, you'll never see this in boxing, yet they hit the shitw out of one another. Rugby is a contact sport just accept it.

[@benvandermerwe4934]

👏🏻⚡🥃

[@jerrybuirski2344]

To quote Heyneke Meyer: "Ballet is a contact sport, rugby is a collision sport."

[@shakes7501]

Make Nick Mallet a permanent member of the Boks office

[@serenitynow6731]

Curious on your thoughts when a red card tackle takes your number 1 try scorer out of the game with a concussion rule… 20 minutes later they have 15 players, maybe 6 points down. Arguably a net gain for an opponent if you’ve lost a Cheslin.

[@guyeagle9344]

Borthwick parked the bus too early… definitely had a big effect

[@Lesssvav]

Kiwi here. England should’ve won. Plain and simple 😂 AB’s set piece was horrible most of the game. Handling atrocious. Penalties everywhere.. but, the AB’s were bailed out yet again by their undeniable attacking prowess.

[@BongieBala]

😂😂😂 England only played for 3 points,they had no idea how to attack New Zealand in their own half, instead of kicking for corner for a line out and driving maul for 7points,they instead opted the easy route and took easy points

[@Lesssvav]

@ exactly. They should’ve won, but they didn’t have the guts to go for 7 instead of 3 😂

[@nm86484]

​@Lesssvav still won mate

[@Lesssvav]

@@nm86484 have the attention span to read past the first 2 lines mate

[@nm86484]

@@Lesssvav still won mate

[@mariusmarais9750]

All Blacks need to be 110% for the Irish gents, we all know AB's can do it, but not like they played this 2024, to many errors, cards ext. We need to respect this Irish side. They well drilled and well coached even with old Mike Catt there.

[@philipmcdonald7370]

Mike Catt left after the SA tour. It's Goodie's 1st game as attack coach on Sat after leaving leinster 👍

[@sandorclegane3658]

England turned down a coaching team of Mallet and Smith... That setup would have taken England deep into the world cup.

[@bunnychowmuncher]

Likely because they are too honest like Kevin PIeterson was in cricket and the English Management would have to hear things they don't want to hear. The SA culture in that respect does not quite match the English culture where you have to watch what you say and be passive aggressive to a degree.

[@emfairclough]

​@@bunnychowmuncherThe English talk in circles never saying what they mean. Saffas total opposite, direct and crystal clear.

[@bunnychowmuncher]

@emfairclough lol yip hence a bad fit.

[@sandorclegane3658]

@@bunnychowmuncher the difference between success and failure. Legacy or infamy. This is what separates the Springboks with the All Blacks next to them vs the world, straight dominating every format of the game and tournament. The wannabee's argue about "We the new rivals, move over". Precious.

[@bunnychowmuncher]

@sandorclegane3658 I commend Ireland and give them full credit for what they have achieved in the last 20 yrs but yes I agree with you. To expect two incumbents to stand aside and assume the podium is odd. It's like us taking up GAA and having success and telling them to stand aside when they've been doung it for a century. I welcome them to the party but no need to be cocky.

[@Amanzi379]

Rugby tickets were £225 pounds.

[@simonemal1025]

legends!!!!

[@peterwomersley]

great show thanlks

[@JohannesMahlangu-y2f]

South African love Haka❤❤

[@StopTheRot]

Yes we do. We’re missing a decent front row, decent 9 and decent 12. We’re okay in some other positions, and excellent in a few

[@SmokeyKiloOscar]

Up staps! 😁 lovit!

[@ShanePleasance]

Schalks Panerai looks pretty good on him.

[@Porkchop259]

It depends , if you mean do England have the quality in players to beat NZ & SA yes absolutely, if you mean the quality in coaching than absolutely not.

[@toma411]

Quantity in coaching? So they need 50 more coaches?

[@SteveWarlee]

England were doing real fine till borthdick benched Marco smith. The ABs looked flat footed and clueless in the last section and England were in ascendancy. Hopefully Ireland will give them a blood nose.

[@JayP744]

Guys, I have a question, if its all about player safety and the tackler has the responsibility to avoid head contact, why is there no responsibility on the ball carrier to avoid head contact? So many times theres head contact due to the ball carrier changing levels or direction last second thus making it dangerous for the tackler? Now in saying that, I do no want MORE red cards by officiating that, but surely if player safety is the issue, it should be reffed both ways?

[@JayP744]

Posted this before they actually talked about this topic. Seems like they sort of agree.

[@neilmacewan8706]

Regarding the red card everyone talks about the 20 min no one acknowledges that the player doesn’t play and the impact that has on the bench. It still penalises the team. But at least now the game is a little more competitive.

[@ThabaniTBowseHadebe0909]

Galavanting - bloody hell - when last I heard that name Jean - lmk

[@andresdeks]

Great show. The English rugby team is acting like their soccer team with their vocal high fives and fist pumps.....

[@optimadev1371]

Yes

[@mlisto7367]

Jean you are funny😆😆😆

[@mlisto7367]

Guys am I the only noticing the silence of Warren Gatland 🤣🤣🤣.

[@DerekChaplin-mu1gc]

Fiji will have all players available, Premier league and Top 14, they will be a handful for Wales.

[@tonysmith1190]

The simple answer is England does have the ability to beat the AB's and the Springboks.

[@msum23]

Wallace, not Lawrence :D NZ 3 tries to one, and England's only try was an intercept. I think NZ had the better of it and played more rugby. England too conservative as always.

[@JohnTerblanche-l1r]

Seems like they were giving their defence a test run especially for the boks, we all know on attack they dont need to practice it with their 9 and 10 it comes naturally, unlike boks who have new att based gameplan we still need practice. Hopefully scots can be a good test run and we keep our defence honest then for england we'll be ready.

[@ProTantoQuid]

Don't you read newspapers? Ted Hill has been banned. As a neutral, I think the weakness lies with the support team rather than the talent on the field. As to "they should have won", that isn't really defensible, is it? The minutes are part of the game after 60 minutes; inability to score tries requires infallible goal kickers; wishful thinking about props is a good way to lose.

[@SeanLarkan]

Franco Smith must be brought into the Bok fold

[@mskatefish]

Disagree… live in Belfast and 160 pounds is ludicrous

[@duncanwcraig9668]

All blacks 201 passes England 96. Razor has a game plan to run it, which is the AB’s DNA, we kiwis like it. We will be clinical come 2025.

[@Wildebees1982]

Nick, not so sure your comparison with American sports makes sense. Have you ever paid for a ticket to an NHL or NFL game? It's ridiculously priced.

[@maori_brotha]

Nah.....theyre fine. The wins will come.

[@amantedellopera1681]

Lads your way to soft on the poms,they never once looked like scoring a try not counting the intercept,sure they will beat you up and try to drag you down,but they have little or no attack,relied soley on kicking 3 pointers,not good enough to beat the 4 top teams,boks,ireland,france,kiwis

[@michaelrapson]

No. It's a psychological barrier. England have to understand that the All Blacks are human and can be beaten. Ireland seems to have overcome the fear.

[@robinmoreau2029]

Nick....ticket prices in 2023 for Peter Gabriel cost £200.00...Taylor Swift £120.00 sounds hectic...ha ha I agrred with you back when etc. we must price tickets to fill the stadiums with fans and families....make the money up elsewhere...Tv?

[@symonyoung9388]

Allblacks rebuilding slowly 2 close loses to The world champions Sa beat England again for the 36 time next up world ??number one?? ireland Let's GO ALLBLACKS

[@Lawrence-l3d]

I see that the south African & new zealand fans online are now united against the comin enemy ireland they don't like that ireland has upset the rugby world order

[@wilfredsmith183]

We always support our NZ brothers.

[@amantedellopera1681]

​@@wilfredsmith183how are they your brothers?????

[@SovrinWealth]

Ireland upsetting the Southern Hemisphere world order - what a laugh - Southern Hemisphere only won WC once with England in 2003 and Ireland cementing their Quarter Final potential - again in 2023 - all the rest is Noddy Badge achievement....

[@ProTantoQuid]

Several hundred rugby players are now sueing (principally England and Wales) in respect of brain injury. Potentially the penalties will destroy both Unions and possibly the World authority. Their defence will be based on "We adjusted rules as soon as concussion risks became known". To change the rules to lessen the sanctions for dangerous tackling would be stupid. Expect this to be opposed by the 6 Nations.

[@touchingthecloth]

cheesis....how smug n boring

[@damien1166]

The Haka before every game is a bit tiresome, just saying!

[@dyllanwalters3445]

How is the Sco V RSA the big one on sunday? The entire world talks about NZ v IRE Never liked JDV anyway

[@igsaan8573]

Who is the entire world. I didn't even know Ireland had a rugby team 😂

[@dyllanwalters3445]

@ well they do and they currently ranked number 1 so i cant help for your lack of rugby knowledge. Cant blame you. Probably been a bok since 2019 dololo before that

[@igsaan8573]

@dyllanwalters3445 nobody cares about rankings. Northern Hemisphere teams play amongst each other to rack up ranking points and then get schooled when it comes to World Cups. Rankings mean notbing

[@kooijpolloi8220]

Boks office is a Springbok centric pod bro, can't blame them for looking forward to the Bok game more.

[@grantrau3066]

Because Ireland and NZ are playing Friday dah

[@ollynehring470]

Good forwards but shit back line

[@liamwilliams6651]

Scrum half and center is England's problem positions imo. They talk very highly of Ollie Lawrence but I don't see it. I am a fan of their wingers however. Freeman and Feyi Waboso have the potential to be even better than the Irish and French wingers.

[@amantedellopera1681]

​@@liamwilliams6651playing for a different team they might,but not bish bosh england