Where The Rugby Championship will be won and lost | Aotearoa Rugby Pod

[@stefwessels955]

Shaun Stevenson, as a South African, is your best option at 15 and in scary form at the moment.

[@tuttyusbuttyus]

And yet, Foster didn't even include him in the 23 for this weekend. Can't wait for that fool to leave.

[@rogue_luko]

Ardie Savea is possibly the most powerful and strongest ball carrier (pound-for-poumd) in international rugby. Size, build and height is irrelevant when it comes to imposing oneself on the opposition - Savea has proven consistently over time that grit, intent and purpose trumps bulk.

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

Exactly he's also our best when it comes to jackals in the ruck

[@rogue_luko]

@@YallNotWhite_YourPINK Agree, great point bro! He possesses an uncanny knack of turning over ruck ball in clutch moments!

[@taztaurima]

He should be our 7. If Cane wasn’t captain he wouldn’t be in that squad. In saying that, Ardie still starts at 8 for me.

[@MrOliverwoods]

Size and speed don’t matter ? Try convincing a physicist or a Bok ?

[@taztaurima]

@@MrOliverwoods think he’s just stating that Ardie should be starting regardless of his size which has come into question recently

[@navinpatel5688]

Love Parsons analysis as long as he's not talking about the blues, he makes sense 😂

[@Allblackdavid11]

Needs to be more broad-minded and talking about nz needs to over come the forwards at the world cup

[@Gumboot_City_NZ]

I can't think of any player besides Bryn Hall to win 6 Super Rugby championships and never make the All Blacks. Unlucky!!

[@tcr4507]

Mitch Drummond? I think he was there for the 6 years too. Now 7 I guess.

[@ToadLicka]

​@@tcr4507Drummond is an All Black, earned a cap in 2018 against Japan I think

[@kainoizking]

Dude just had the rotten luck of being a New Zealand halfback in the same era as Aaron smith, Tj and TKB I guess. Everyone knows how good Bryn was though.

[@Gumboot_City_NZ]

@kainoizking agree!! I always thought Bryn was better than Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi and deserved a test cap over him. Unlucky Bryn lol

[@kainoizking]

@@Gumboot_City_NZ yeah they were clearly going for just pure speed when they selected him I think.

[@joseslatter9276]

Best rugby show in NZ - by far!

[@kimNcass]

Another episode of my favorite on-screen romance. Finally reunited. Parsons X Hall.

[@rogerpattube]

Good to have a tight forward talking sense compared to other channels with outside backs pontificating.

[@siphelele8]

Hearing Jeeper talk about kicking the ball when you do not have momentum is rich since all the criticism of how SA play their rugby.

[@francoisjeanjoubert1024]

South africa plays territory

[@nielvanderwalt1965]

​@@francoisjeanjoubert1024no they play pray for scrum penalties

[@timgregory82]

Do South Africa play?

[@iceman6547]

We're the Jose Mourinho of the rugby world. Everyone hates us because we play hard rugby, tell the truth that nobody wants to hear and rack up the Webb Ellis every 12years. Can't see us doing it this year but I'm sick of people acting like we don't play the most calculated game about

[@aphiwembande8661]

​@@iceman6547other than calculated, it's the most exciting imo. We tackle harder, run harder and our general physicality is dominant. Yes there are boring games (1st test vs B&I Lions in 2021 for example), but those are the matches where we haven't played well. When we play well (80% of the time) it is genuinely the most exciting rugby ever. It's the essence of rugby imo.

[@willcoxn463]

Never miss an ARP, very balanced likeable and knowledgeable, all the best from England lads

[@PocketRugby]

Shaun Stevenson is terrifying! Yours truly, Irish supporter

[@dmazingi]

It's no surprise that the ABs are not great at the breakdown. Were not rewarding those players that are great in the breakdown and we're asking ball running players to be fetchers. Specialist fetchers are just being ignored in NZ

[@Trajan2401]

Ignored by fozzie

[@dmazingi]

@@Trajan2401 yes. Tom Christie, duplesis kirifi. To name but a few

[@Trajan2401]

@@dmazingi didn't have them in mind lol

[@maxxi1097]

I’m the current squad I’d say Cane and Jacobson are probably the best at the breakdown one player I’d like to see get shot in black jersey is Billy Harmon he specialist at the breakdown

[@keza41]

Cane has the worst turnover stats of any loose forward in NZ. There are wingers and hookers that get more than Cane.

[@nickwood8491]

Not sure I agree with everything the boys thought here. 1. Beauden is apparently locked in as the 15 with Richie at 10. Do you really believe BB is our BEST 15? 2. If Foster picks Ardie and Sam at 8 and 7, do we risk not having a solid 3rd option at the lineout, which the Crusaders have so effectively used to obtain lineout dominance.

[@thefobbie0034]

It is a travesty that the ABs have persisted playing Savea at 8 when he is a 7! Savea is the best 7 in the world YET the ABs are playing him at 8 - what a JOKE!

[@mawmn-i4d]

BB is our best 10 at test level, But Mckenzie is our best 10 at SR. Mounga is in between in both.

[@Trajan2401]

I was watching another show and they're convinced DMac will be at 15

[@lalovi2159]

​​​@@mawmn-i4d BB do 💩 against Ireland 🇮🇪 last year two games that he was started all 💩💩💩🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️👊👊👊👊

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

@@mawmn-i4d beauden hasn't been our best 10 for the past five years also Richie is clearly our best super rugby 10

[@DeMontarey]

Safa here...always nice chat...keep it up!

[@tomasito2303]

Best show in NZ. So , accurate.

[@teawaruaedwards274]

Yes🤔...he did score a couple good tries against Irish Teams....but Ireland does have ability to keep him quiet MOST of the time.?😮😊

[@julianalderson3938]

Great show n thanx heaps for com on how its done. Thanx fullas

[@debeerpaul]

The ABs will take the world cup this year. As a Springbok fan I cant wait!

[@hankgoldenshaft]

Dude I’m a kiwi and you’re gaslighting us hard lol

[@debeerpaul]

@@hankgoldenshaft 😎 No pressure haha

[@TurtleFPL]

My worry about this new 6 Nations and Rugby Championship tournament is the knock on effects to other tournaments. The World Cup feels special. The lions tours feel special. Even a 3 game series between Ireland and New Zealand feels special. All of these because they don't come around too often. I worry playing every 2 years will just remove the excitement of these big occasions.

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent content as usual

[@joshuapetersmit7155]

I saw that Jeff Wilson said that Ardie Saveas not big enough for a traditional nr 8, that Jacobson should start and Addie off the bench . Interested on your thoughts about it?

[@ShiNooBi1986]

Jeff is a winger

[@kainoizking]

@@ShiNooBi1986t’s still an interesting point none the less. Ardie is powerful over the ball. He’s a strong runner, out in the wide channels he has the speed and footwork of a back but also in tight his leg drive for post contact meters is unrivalled in world rugby. However he doesn’t provide much punch over the advantage line as a one off runner and he’s not particularly known for his big defence. Jacobson is known for his concrete shoulders, he is also a strong ball carrier, however not as strong as Ardie. His physicality makes him better and more efficient at clearing breakdowns than Ardie and he is also a better lineout option than Ardie. To play devils advocate, he is a better traditional number 8 than Ardie and Ardie is by far the best number 7 in the country. My loose forward trip would be Ardie at 7, Jacobson at 8 and Scooter at 6. By far a better balance than the current setup imo because Wilson is right in the sense that we do just lose so much size having Ardie and Cane on the field at the same time.

[@stealthpakfa]

Don’t take anything Jeff Wilson says seriously.

[@NzNicK253]

James ‘half glass full’ Parsons 😆

[@christopherminto8209]

The ABs have to win this one, it’s massively important to show the improvement on last year.

[@kainoizking]

We need another episode of ARP every week now in test season lads. Every Friday to build up the test matches in the weekend. Kinda like how the “levels” podcast does in the NRL. 1 episode after the weekend and one before.

[@brian193a]

too much discussion on who is in the team. While the who is important it has to be matched with the how/ strategy. The discussion should start with the strategy and then pick the team to deliver it - that what Smith did with the Black Ferns

[@jzkramer]

Any team that has Barrett and Clarke in it's backline is gonna have trouble against the top sides. Has Fozzie finally realised this? I'm dubious.

[@keza41]

Foster probably hasn’t but hopefully Joe n’ Jase have and will talk him out of it…

[@Badmansband]

Foster hasn't learnt from 2016.

[@desmondmccabe8321]

ireland did new zealand a favour by giving them a scare last year - they're going to be back and fierce

[@richardscanlan3419]

Not thir yr we won't.We may start to improve once Fluster is gone.

[@kainoizking]

100% I’ve never seen NZR move as fast to set changes in motion as when we got booted up the arse by the Irish. Losing the friendlys in 2021 was bad but there was a lot of excuses being made. Losing an actual test series on home soil at the beginning of our international season was just completely unacceptable and there were absolutely no excuses to be made. A painful but necessary experience.

[@jamescooper-hope6930]

Ireland have consistently improved too. France too. Will be the most competitive RWC ever. 🇳🇿

[@richardscanlan3419]

@@kainoizking we may still have lost a home series even with another coach - but I get the feeling,it really comes down to just how diabolical Foster is as a head coach. I have never seen a worse AB coach in my 57yrs on this planet.And that'seven taking into account how poor our current playing stocks are.

[@JimmyKip]

The timing on promotion / relegation for the new international competition is going to come down to how much influence Wales & Italy can exert on their 6 nations partners to hold it off for as long as possible. Particularly for Wales the extra money they can gain from this comp will help them to rebuild, and the longer that rebuilding process lasts without the risk of relegation the bigger the gap they can build between themselves and teams like Georgia, Tonga, Samoa etc.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

'Form - slick, focused and really sharp' - and the captain not getting carded for dumb shit.

[@centlivert]

Manie Liebbok from the Stormers is the starting flyhalf for South Africa. Very similar to Mackenzie

[@MartynKilian]

So funny watching these guys talk about "kicking after 3 rucks" (Rassie's tactics in the last world cup) as THE way to play with out the slightest bit of irony when they trashed the Boks for being "boring" when they executed this to perfection.

[@JimmyKip]

Just because everybody has to do it now, doesn't mean that it's not still boring rugby.

[@julianalderson3938]

Womens games just movin fast the skills' yer

[@dionsands3113]

Remember Shaun is not in the playing squad he is an emergency,like Caleb in the 2020 sevens and only plays if players are injured or absent!

[@davidpeters3857]

Excellent content

[@ducduong87vlogs]

Congratulations

[@alanfitz4122]

Really enjoy this show. I reckon the world cup every 4 years to work out top team is sufficient. This nations thing will detract from that in my view. I would prefer to see a top club competition every 4 years - crusaders V Leinster V Panasonic V Drua - Football has lessons. Then we can retain tours every other year such as Ireland V AB's last year . Maybe old fashioned

[@tb-nz]

Bryn was good on the comms this weekend

[@douglasreed007]

Looking forward to a repeat of the game against the ABs at Mbombela Stadium. That would make my Rugby Championships. Put the cat amongst the Kiwi's. 😂

[@Zhorith]

Not a fan of the world championship, I feel that it would water down the World Cup

[@julianalderson3938]

Gota play stevenson. Man cant do more. Cheers

[@rhycnnms239]

10 RM, 15 Stevenson, 22 DMac, and 23 BB

[@kainoizking]

So no midfield cover? Lol

[@rhycnnms239]

@@kainoizking no need...at least against the Pumas.

[@ftanarki]

Hello , Frank here from Hungary🙂🏉 I just have a general comment. But I’m also curious about your opinions. Nowadays with the superslow replays it is very obvious when someone is faking an injury and I liked to think back in my playing days that this what separates rugby from soccer, no freakin fairy acts. It eould be nice not to see that on rugby games, because is disgusting😕 I hope the players we can see on tv will realize this and stop “being soccer players” cherrs, good show🙂👍🏻🏉

[@snoogz6152]

Oh???? I thought the kicking game and playing in the right areas considered as "boring rugby"

[@joedennehy386]

Salty saffer

[@OfficialCarlFabian]

We Saffas don't really mind you saying we can't score tries wide... We are just as happy smashing into whoever for 80mins to score 💪🏻😌

[@jdb9388]

Boks are too slow, Ellis park they got blown out the water, size is ok but speed wins, when the ABs start clicking and playing at speed the Boks will gas and be sitting duck, no water breaks will save them

[@OfficialCarlFabian]

@@jdb9388 I never said it was the best way to play the game, but it's the way we like it. So we'll probably keep choosing violence over flair 😏

[@dinidudayan3316]

Can we have Parsons on the breakdown instead of Goldie. Love the point of view he bring on with analysis.

[@ciaranbrk]

Look I get that France is in the all blacks pool so there is a big focus on them. However, Ireland had the best defense of the six nations and France only scored one more try than Ireland in the six nations 2023 tournament. France conceded 14 tries to Irelands 6 over the whole tournament. Ireland deservedly are the best team this year not France. That's not to say they aren't amazing ,France are rightfully ranked as second. France are right about there but Ireland are there. As for Sextn he is fine he has been since April Ireland just decided to wrap him in cotton wool and give his back up Ross Byrne more game time at Leinster.

[@kainoizking]

Agreed but it’s just so hard to look past home advantage. You can’t underestimate how big of a factor those frenzied French crowds will be for them. But also Irelands ridiculously complex system relies too heavily on Sexton to run it. I’d go as far to say Ireland with Sexton at 10 are unbeatable. Ireland without Sexton are far more beatable though in my opinion.

[@saturdayplayer2492]

Got to look no further than France for the world cup. Large number of world class players and home advantage.

[@camo6230]

Boks play a physical game however are very capable of attacking footy.

[@keza41]

Yep, they are but I think they’ll go back to what they do best at the WC and that’s not really running rugby, look at the Lions series and how they played.

[@camo6230]

@@keza41 Sure however that was after a whole year with no games. 2019 WC final was a different story

[@brandstefff]

World Cup only competition that matters 😊

[@Trajan2401]

Losers mentality for NZ every game matters that's why they will always be the best they don't settle for mediocrity

[@joedennehy386]

Keep repeating that and then you'll know why you only win one of four against us since neutral referees came in in 1981. Before the rwc. Soccer has friendlies rugby has tests

[@Trajan2401]

@@joedennehy386 NZ would've won 2-3 series in SA if they had neutral refs isn't it a coincidence that the first time NZ won a series in SA was also the first time they had neutral refs and since neutral refs SAs record is shocking

[@kobuslouw9533]

@@Trajan2401 LOL, :D :D :D look at this kiwi talking about refs. AB always got away with murder at their peak.

[@aar1967]

Love James's shiny lips!

[@phineasshika]

You guys saw it coming, talking about the Boks Maul defence and attack. I dont its fair to compare Boks playing style with the ABs,Irish and French . Because we play a very different style even on attack, we do have different fly half, which might mean we can play expansive. Not to say we want to play an expansive rugby but is our style of play that won the RWC 3 times, so we do play to our strength and it works.

[@robertmiller2173]

Who changed the name of this Country?

[@sonnyblack6121]

A Guy from Holland who never even set foot on the country....... Luckily we have gone back to the original name..... AOTEAROA

[@robertmiller2173]

@@sonnyblack6121 It is a name given to New Zealand by an Australia because Australia governed New Zealand. The Māori had names for the Islands and various Iwi were in a state of sporadic war with their neighbors and other Iwi prior to European settlement. It isn't a Māori Name! There was no such name Prior to Governor Grey who was in charge of New South Wales and New Zealand so that they could formulate the basis for the Treaty of Waitangi. They/He needed a collective name! History is important! We should be asked to vote on it like we did with the Flag! I quite like the name as long as it is used realistically! Imagine the advertising budget to get people around the world to now where Aotearoa is? The branding of all our products! Think about how much has been invested into creating New Zealand as a brand where great food, wine etc etc comes from .......somebody in the USA is expected to know where the F Aoterower is? Get Real! or Get Woke? its up to you!

[@Alias-gy3tz]

Vamos Los Pumas!

[@Mikeup104]

Underestimate the boks power game at your peril chaps.

[@jakeypetero2013]

Smith Mounga Clarke J.barrett R.ioane Nakagawa Mckenzie. 6- Frizzell.

[@joshhudson7413]

Who tf is Nakagawa? It's Narewa 🤣

[@jakeypetero2013]

@@joshhudson7413 🤣 couldn't be bothered Google his name so took a guess.

[@mkg5048]

​@@joshhudson7413Who tf is Narewa? It's Narawa 🤣

[@dionsands3113]

So stop all the comments he should be picked-he'a not in the friggin team!

[@Faust_ZA]

Its ok us Bokke arent worried about anyone certainly no one in the southern hemisphere atleast😂

[@dionsands3113]

Off course shaun is high and dry if he doesnt play pumas-no way is he getting a game against aussies and boks!

[@julianalderson3938]

Relagations tuff but kinda gives ya 2 finals.

[@michaelstevens1004]

Barret should not been there and clarke should also not be there and sam caine is a good player but he is not a good captain

[@joedennehy386]

Just heard the bokke team to play Australia its a b+ team at best. A bit disrespectful to Australia . They are sending the A team here

[@sbok9481]

🤬 SA want to win both games in SA and NZ. The only way to do that is to split team. One climatising while the other play locally. The same they did in 2019 and won the RC. If you think it's a B team, then beat the Boks. It will reflect better on your stats. Stop crying.

[@EGM534]

​@@sbok9481Australia actually have a winning record vs the Boks lately lol

[@kobuslouw9533]

Not a B team mate, it's called player management.

[@sbok9481]

@@EGM534 Lately is a song performed by Stevie Wonder. And even he can see better than you that every year is a new year.

[@julianalderson3938]

Yer an a chance for another team. Like it'

[@rorygilmoreNZ]

Say what…?! For decades there have been teams that win without the ball… So your reference to Eddie Jones “revolutionising rugby” by saying that “Possession rugby is dead” is patent rubbish. It’s either typical tv commentators hyperbole or typical Jones hyperbole.

[@MrOliverwoods]

If you guys decide to use the US pro models, then All Black rugby will die.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

It is already dead.

[@warrenbooysen]

Very disappointing show …. Marx wasn’t mentioned at all 😂

[@kainoizking]

Yeah I think it might potentially be the first ever test week that Jipper has gone without mentioning Marx haha

[@k.o.t.h]

Rest Beuden, start Stevenson n put McKenzie as 23. Start Finau n Jacobson, Savea as 20. Start Williams.

[@YallNotWhite_YourPINK]

Lmao savea is literally our best player why would he be on the bench

[@mawmn-i4d]

Rest Mounga & Finau. Start Baeuden & Stevenson, Mckenzie 22. Start Jacobson,Savea & Papalii, Cane 20.

[@Trajan2401]

Why would you use Savea as an impact player?You've been listening to Goldie too much as Mexted said Goldie doesn't know anything about forward play he was a back Mexted was 8 and reckons that's rubbish i agree

[@jeromeloxton8844]

You can drop Beuden altogether but Savea must start

[@Trajan2401]

I watched another show and they're convinced DMac will be 15

[@johnbrown1249]

Beaudy? WTF?

[@joedennehy386]

We just dont have the amount of world class players right now. Ssmasoni? Marx and Sheehan say no. Aaron Smith? Dupont says no. Reiko Ioane at 11, but we wont play him there. Ardie at 7 but we wont play him there, Jordan at 15, but we wont play him there. Not a single player is first choice for a world 15. In the past we have had, McCaw Carter woodcock, kaino, Reid, nonu, conrad smith etc.

[@codynicol7327]

I agree. Why are we playing players out of positions when they play there best footy at there main position

[@timgregory82]

Calm down

[@dionsands3113]

Parson talks far to much and very slowly!

[@JN-er5yu]

So should Cheika go in with a losing mentality?? haha wtf

[@kainoizking]

They were talking about what he says to the media. Putting players under unnecessary pressure sometimes with the headlines he gives to the press.

[@Trajan2401]

NZ is at a disadvantage the other sides have the luxury of selecting players overseas SA probably wouldn't have won the world cup without their overseas players like Kolbe and Australia wouldn't be this strong without their overseas players maybe something to look at this rule was brought in to stop players going overseas but it hasnt i can see why Razor is pushing for it look at Tawera Kerr Barlow the best halfback in the world who doesn't play for any country one of La Rochelles best players

[@keza41]

Dupont is the best halfback in the world mate.

[@Trajan2401]

@@keza41 I said the best halfback in the world who isn't playing for any country even the commentators said that in the final

[@keza41]

@@Trajan2401 Fair enough, but you really think Razor needs to chase a guy in his 30s instead of investing in the young talent we have in NZ like Roigard, Hotham and Ratima, all of whom have more upside than TKB, Really?

[@daniegrobbelaar7403]

@@Trajan2401 Kerr Barlow wasn't even the best 9 at the chiefs - you're a clown

[@keza41]

You going to answer the question buddy? You seem like the kind of bloke that listens to what other people have said but can’t make an argument to support it on your own when someone disagrees with you. Waste of time.

[@raf4992]

Aussie by 7+ AB's by 13+

[@kagishomokoena2120]

Boks by 4 Pumas by 2

[@jackkuali2267]

😂

[@chrisroberts7031]

Looks like the All Blacks are making the mistakes of old again you are not going to win a world cup with mounga at 10 should be McKenzie he's the only one that really plays running attacking all Black rugby the All Blacks made the same mistakes in 07 when they didn't take nonu learn from your mistakes of old play MacKenzie

[@keza41]

It’s not the 10, it’s the game plan, which is to give BB license to inject himself at 10 whenever he likes to stink up the joint. DMac or RMo will have the same problem, mod sharing with a guy who thinks he runs the team. Have you not been watching mate? The best games the ABs play is when BB is not on the paddock. Ellis Park last year is a classic example.

[@mkg5048]

​@keza41 that's exactly what I believe, as soon as Beaudens in at the sametime as Mo'unga he tends to forget he's fullback and goes back to kicking all game at the 10 then Mo'unga is just out there doing random shit, duel 10s involving Beauden is a recipe for disaster