Stephen Ferris does not hold back on his assessment of Dylan Hartley | RugbyPass Offload

[@djharto4917]

I always remembered Hartley making his comeback against Leinster in Heineken cup and hitting Sean o Brian, complete cheap shot. I’m sure there’s many more

[@Ian-q4u2r]

Sean O'BRIEN would slaughter him.. OBrein was the smart man not to react.. Hartley was tuned the wrong way if he had discipline would of been top player hurt his club and England more times. Think it was when England ref sent him off in Heineken cup his face said it all

[@jonathanmawdesley-thomas1863]

Dylan has a pretty chequered path when it comes to incidents on the rugby field . Ferris good fair hard player .

[@simonbackhouse5142]

On one occasion Ferris was “fish-hooking” Hartley, so Hartley (not unreasonably) bit him. Ferris cries like a girl and runs off to the ref to complain. Hard Man? My arse!

[@Driver2616]

⁠@@simonbackhouse5142 Sorry, did you really type here “…Hartley (not unreasonably) bit him…” !!!??!!! Yes. You did type that. 🙄 He bit him. That’s some real low down cheating stuff and you say “(not unreasonably)”. There’s something wrong with you.

[@niallsheehan474]

Well articulated by Stephen

[@alanmulcahy7749]

Ferris didn't need to say anything - his hits were enough to shut anyone up !

[@JTM1809]

Never liked Hartley. Guy's always been vicious and borderline psycho. He accumulated 60 weeks of bans in total in his career. That's more than a calendar year.

[@garylake1676]

I agree, it was embarrassing to have him as our captain, as he was never capable of playing within himself, I did feel that he was made captain for two reasons, to actually place some responsibility on his shoulders, and as he was clearly our best hooker, to ensure that he was not accountable to a different captain who would not be able to handle him.

[@JTM1809]

@@garylake1676 Good points. I believe, there's a third reason as well. I believe Eddie Jones simply loves this antagonistic character type. The street bully kind, that works on the margins of the law. It lends itself well to the siege mentality Eddie wants to constantly instil. That's why he had Hartley as a captain, and Farrell after him. Both universally respected for their skill, but equally universally disliked by their opposition. From this perspective, it seems a bit odd, that he went with the soft-spoken and gentlemanly Tom Curry for that odd game, and now with the critically thinking, almost an intellectual type of Courtney Lawes, but I guess it worked because Lawes is still an intimidating dominant tackler on the field with full tattoo sleeves, even though he's an articulate and coherent autonomous thinker off the field.

[@Mr___X]

Great maths, thanks Sumo

[@garylake1676]

@@JTM1809 Yes, I get that, the Jose mentality.

[@grahamholliday9962]

@@JTM1809 Harsh on Faz compared to the cheap shot Hartley who was an embarrassment for this England fan when he played Might have been a decent line-out thrower but never thought he was that good a player Jamie G always looked superior but Yoda as you say liked the niggle Hartley caused with his cheap shots

[@zw5509]

You got it. The kind of player, wee weasel, who would have been taken out in the 'good old days' when a hundred cameras were not trained on the pitch.

[@bradleybarrett5131]

Heartley had a chequered past however when he was given the captaincy he really did switch on I don’t think he was the most skilled player but he was good enough for international and his leadership kept him in there and all the analysis he now does for BT I actually think he’s very observant and a very intelligent pundit

[@yankorusev]

Ferris is hilarious

[@seanyshepfit]

"The English". Jog on Wilson, you sound more English than half the side 😂

[@jep1912]

Never understood the Hartley thing, the guy's hugely disliked and forgettable.

[@oliverhunter9495]

His post rugby career leaves me speechless. Mind you Ryan Wilson is a tool par excellence, at least Hartley won some stuff.

[@Jamie-ur6xy]

@@oliverhunter9495 wdym post rugby career?

[@davidhughes8795]

Hasn't Ferris also said that he thinks Warren Gatland 'hates' Irish people before?

[@OfFiCiAllCiNnAmOn]

gatland was seriously fucked over by the blazers at the irfu and has a legitimate beef with them...but it does seem to have spilled over into his dealings with irish players over the years...especially some of his lions selections. i would say when it comes to playing against ireland he is extra motivated to beat us. but i wouldnt say he hates irish people...just not particularly fond of the irish rugby setup and its reps

[@davidhughes8795]

@@OfFiCiAllCiNnAmOn that's fair i suppose

[@sharifela7993]

So what happened when he was Irish boss?

[@barrygormley]

@@sharifela7993 His take is Eddie O'Sullivan stabbed him in the back and took his job and the IRFU blazers facilitated it. Eddie denies it off course. I tend to believe Gatland

[@OfFiCiAllCiNnAmOn]

@@sharifela7993 gatland was the one who started the turnaround in the international team...we were literally a joke throughout the 1990s winning less than one game per season on average in the 5 nations...in 2000 he brought in a load of new players and we won 3 games for the first time since the 80's. in 2001 we were a bad result in scotland away from a grand slam...then he got the boot and o'sullivan took over...who was gatlands assistant. i have no idea if there was 'backstabbing' but it wasnt a good look at the time for eddie and i am sure gatland felt betrayed by all concerned. part of the problem for gatland was ireland's worst ever (to that time) world cup performance - failing to reach the quarter final in 1999 even though we qualified from 2nd in the group it was only good enough for a playoff to get to the quarters (ironically a feat only surpassed in shittiness by o'sullivan himself in 2007 when they didnt even get out of the group). gatland would argue he had set ireland on course for the improvement we have seen since the dreadful 90s and was shoved out while still on an upward trajectory.

[@thewhitedoncheadle8345]

might wanna talk about o'mahoney then

[@Driver2616]

OK. So talk. For starters here, O’Mahony was always deemed likely to throw a left jab or a right uppercut, but only in self defence. He never led with violence. He never started anything. He is/was a bloody bastard to play against, niggling, slagging off, trying to incite a reaction, playing right on the edge of the laws, bloody infuriating nuisance. And he’ll defend his teammates both vocally and physically. But one thing he’s not is a cheating, cheap shot merchant.

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

Explain Muriel? (Also check your spelling)

[@Mojo16011973]

Hartley doesn't deserve to have a media career in Rugby. I mute him when he talks.

[@glaw5ter]

Karma dealt with Hartley never got a Lions cap went to Best instead.🤣🤣🤣

[@Driver2616]

He’s right, Dylan was a cheap shot merchant on the pitch.

[@whatdoyousaymrwilson]

Why was his finger in his mouth? If he was trying to fishhook him then he deserved to get bitten.

[@dawnjohnson4300]

If I remember correctly in 2012 the English Pack walked all over the Irish scrum

[@TheBigd1975]

Yeah that's correct. It's directly because of that game there's 2 specialist props on the bench. Tom court a loose head had to play tighthead for Mike Ross. He and the Irish scrum got minced.

[@johncannon3411]

so anyways i said to mabel i says.....

[@octopusfly]

Dylan was hungry.

[@carljones6044]

Ferris was no angel either. A game at home in Swansea he hit an Osprey who was prone on the floor, nowhere near the ball and was totally out of order. Lost a lot of respect for him as a man after that, monster of a player though and a brilliant athlete.

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

So one incident equals a career of bans. Well done you dope.

[@YodaAndCo]

I find Hartley very personable in all the interviews and his social media. Does plenty of charity work also so don't think anyone in this comment section is qualified to call him a dick 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@grahamholliday9962]

Actions speak louder than words to this England fan

[@alanrobinson7891]

People are talking about during his playing career, not his social media profile. And facts are facts, during his playing career he was a dick

[@weiss-du5fq]

Many on here are qualified Jim & he's way worse than a dick , just a putrid human .

[@mrpaolobafico]

no one is judging him off the pitch but on the pitch he did not cover himself in glory quite a few times

[@gearoidmactighearnain3763]

Hartley was shiite.

[@patrickchilds2987]

Two abrasive ex players in still don't like each other shocker 🙄 No one really knows what happened ..its their thing ..who cares

[@philiptatley8346]

please sir, please sir, he's just bitten me! big soft bloody fairy. would not have lasted five minutes in the 70s.

[@alanrobinson7891]

Clearly never seen ferris play then

[@simonbackhouse5142]

@@alanrobinson7891 I have, and he went to the ref crying like a girl.

[@Driver2616]

@@simonbackhouse5142 And Ferris quite rightly made a complaint to the referee. Remember, someone said once, “…this is not football…”. Just a pity that Dylan never quite understood that…..

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

Sorry, hate to tell you but ...... the 70's have passed and will not return.

[@tortoisebore8642]

What was your hand doing in is face

[@OfFiCiAllCiNnAmOn]

trying to escape...like what was garry ringrose's face doing against that nz prop's head

[@leannecampbell4551]

Merely bitter old Lemons from Ferris. What did he ever achieve in the game?

[@OfFiCiAllCiNnAmOn]

grand slam...despite retiring young ... i presume that is fewer than you have won?...and bitter? calling hartley a cheap shot merchant? objectively true...about someone with over a year of suspensions in his career, for biting, gouging, headbutting etc - if anything he went easy on the scumbag

[@kieranosullivan5813]

Played for the lions unlike hartley who wrecked his only chance thru indiscipline

[@user-mc3wi5tj6u]

Played for the lions, grand slam in 09 and even if he didn’t have that to go by as if that would discredit what he’s saying 💀💀💀💀

[@deskirby309]

He was a heineken cup finalist in 2012, he won a six nations and grand slam with Ireland. He played for the British and Irish Lions. His career was cut short at 28. If his body had stood up he probably would have won another 2 6 nations. Absoulte quality player.

[@markmoran916]

Leanne love...that didn’t go well for you? Oh bless....maybe your rugby knowledge isn’t your strong point

[@user-eq9os5tc7j]

Ferris what a sad person

[@alanrobinson7891]

How so? He spoke nothing but the truth

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

@@alanrobinson7891 One of those English who thinks the empire is still running.

[@jbee9713]

England and Eddie Jones live rent free in the heads of the RP panel every week 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@phrankster909]

I'm on Hartley's side. Ferris is a liar.

[@alanrobinson7891]

Yeah cos he bit himself didn't he

[@richandrews8954]

On what basis Frank?

[@shaneosullivan3358]

You could get exempt from jury duty with an opinion so biased and unbased

[@TonyWhite-s4c]

OK so, that changes everything. Some fool online has changed the game. Stop the presses Rudy.

[@tyrexpress]

As an Ulster and Ireland fan I admired Stephen but sadly his language here is atrocious and immature at best.

[@3storiesUp]

You've little enough to worry you then ..

[@tyrexpress]

@@3storiesUp your opinion…..obviously not in line with mine which is ok.

[@celtic333ful]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@dashingeduardosuarez]

It's very typical lad talk. Fucking hell, you've led a sheltered life! Can I offer you some foie gras? 🧐

[@intherealworld7705]

Rich from an Irishman

[@aidanmasterson50]

Who were the biting Irish?

[@washerdryer3466]

What ho, Old Fruit? Tell us more like a good little chap! Man up now, don't be afraid. 😂

[@djharto4917]

Please tell ? Can’t remember many Irish players being cited for off the ball incidents. Can you elaborate ?

[@user-hm8wf2jf1h]

Reeeeaaally? I doubt you can back that up.

[@dazeng4633]

@@djharto4917 yeah forgot what little sweethearts you were