Ruger American Gen2 vs Cva Cascade: Which is Better?

[@jakeellis7935]

Love the review. Was actually looking at both these platforms. I liked the overall feel to the Ruger gen2 but the cascade has a bergara barrel. Its just a shame gun stores dont let you try out the platform before you buy. But thats why i watch these reviews. Thanks. ( ended up with the Ruger American predator gen 2 and I love it. )

[@UltimateArms]

thought youi would, i do like mine alot. thanks for the comment and dont forget to subscribe.

[@craig5649]

I have one of each. Both shoot great and handle nice. Ruger has the smoother action. CVA has a better flush mount magazine. You really can't go wrong with either so if cost is driving your purchase the Ruger will serve you well. If you want a more traditional looking rifle the CVA wins.

[@edward-sp2bk]

the cva is a great rifle. great review of the 2 of them, thanks again for doing this one, keep up the good work!

[@andrewcleveland]

I bought my daughter a Ruger American gen 2 in 6.5 Grendel. I got her the one with 22” barrel, took the spacer out of the stock and it fits her perfect at 8 yrs old. I mount it to a bog pod tripod and she is good to go. It’s a very accurate little rifle and I’ve grown quite fond of it and the little 6.5 Grendel cartridge. I’ve not shot the Cva cascade but I’ve heard they are great rifles.

[@Useralex995]

@@andrewcleveland is it a big step up from the gen 1. I had the gen 1 and it just didn't do it for me.

[@TracyWill1]

thanks for the comparison. keep up the great reviews. thanks again!!

[@UltimateArms]

thank you for the comment!! keep watching

[@melbsurf]

Going with the Ruger. Thanks for the review!

[@chriscalhoun.concretepumping]

So I have a the gen 2 in 6 arc. Several companies are making profit barrels and chassis’s for this rifle. Once you spice the rifle up with chassis and barrel it’s a very very wicked accurate setup. However bone stock I could shoot 1/2” groups with off the shelf Hornady black ammo and 1/4” with my hand loads at 200 yards. That’s with the stock twisted barrel as I own that exact rifle. Mine came with the 10rnd mag for 6 arc. Great little guns Edit: I do also own bergara b14 crest carbon in 6.5prc, SAKO S20 in 6.5prc along with a lot of other high end rifles and the ruger really does perform well or I wouldn’t own it.

[@ronshaw9311]

You can get the Ruger Gen II in the ranch version which has a 16" barrel. Still very accurate, and brush friendly.

[@UltimateArms]

yea but right now i can only find one in 308. so to do a comparison on that would work for me right now

[@todsimpkins8908]

And 16 inch barrel in most calibers offered is dumb.

[@UltimateArms]

@@todsimpkins8908 why they are only hunting rifles. not precision riles

[@TammyScap1]

great comparison keep up doing what your doing. thanks

[@UltimateArms]

Thanks, will do!

[@tomschmolcke7134]

I dunno, I would say get a Tikka t3x, I got one " used " I think it was unfired, it's severely accurate, light and totally reliable, for the coin it's unbeatable

[@tonycanniffe2360]

@@tomschmolcke7134 Did the same (.223 ember and a 300wsm. Wish i had done straight to Tikkas. Have some Gen 1 Rugers -nothing wrong with em but fairly agricultural compared to Tikkas.

[@adamelam6385]

@@tonycanniffe2360I think the high end Tikkas are overrated too. The spiral fluted barrel doesn't seem as smooth as the standard Tikka T3x

[@Keggertotap]

Agree tikka a few more coins 10x the rifle

[@JimmyLott]

I have the ruger american gen 2 predator in 308. The bolt nob is easy to change it is threaded.

[@UltimateArms]

yup it is you can go to anarchy outdoors and change alot of stuff around on the ruger. www.anarchyoutdoors.com/?ref=lazuuozn here is a link to them. thanks for the comment and dont forget to subscribe today. thanks again

[@ronnbot]

Nice comparison. I've been looking at both but found the Cascade to be similar in price actually because it's been around longer and some places usually have some kind of discount on it. The Cascade SB with an oversized nob like you have here can be found for $850CAD. Just keep in mind not all SB have an oversized knob - this might be a "dealer exclusive." I do like the barrel of the American Gen2 and the fact that it comes with a muzzle brake, but it's hard to find it in stock. If it's in stock, it's more than the MSRP.

[@UltimateArms]

yea i know they do show up but yea they are hard to find. i got lucky to get this one. and i wont sell it even though i've been asked too. LOL. not sure about the knob you maybe right on that. thanks for the comment, good luck on your choice!!

[@jonathanethelbah768]

Great reviews! I enjoy watching them

[@UltimateArms]

im glad you did, and thank you for watching.!! there's more to come

[@cjrodriguez34]

Thanks for the content, instead of focusing on disparities (ammo, bipod vs bags, weather, etc.) Let's focus on value. 1st. Guarantee 14 days to register with purchase receipt and only to 1st owner with CVA vs Ruger warranty. Ruger. 2nd. Aftermarket support. Ruger. 3rd. I understand CVA is a Bergara made rifle and Ed Shilen from Shilen Barrels consults for them, but Ruger have cold forged hammer barrels as well and your results show on average with fancy and NON-fancy ammo the Ruger overall shoots better. Bergara (just because it had the most precise group, but on average it's Ruger). 4th. 3 different barreled lengths and up to 18 different calibers. Ruger. Example: I have a RAR Gen2 in .223, swapped out the chassis for a STANAG Magpul Hunter Chassis (we all know how practical/convenient/well-built these are) with a Vortex Venom 3-15x44 (It has more than enough magnification for anything I can/may do on this platform). I can use 5 round magazines, but I can also use 40 round magazines from the AR15 platform. Some people want more torque (power), others more precision & accuracy, other are focused on weight or function or something else. I believe in redundancy of platforms based on caliber, I would never own 1 of anything, always 2 or more. Now here is the bottom line for me: That CVA is going to cost 35%-40%, with bad warranty value should I decide to sell, low market support, a better barrel that doesn't shoot that much better and not the variety people may be seeking. Other than "preference" or "because I can"? Absolutely not. (Tikka, CVA, Bergara, really have to do much better for people to justify spending the additional $$$)....Ruger raised the bar for the market, not just the company. BTW: I do own a Bergara rifle.

[@Snailz5]

I’ve held both and the cascade feels nicer in the hand. It feels like a more quality item. The Ruger stock is rough and had the hollow cheapy feel while the CVA has the nice soft touch stock and feels more solid. CVA has a better mag and trigger. Ruger has way more aftermarket support. CVA has longer barrel options and the color schemes are more appealing. Ruger has the very attractive spiral fluting. Pros and cons, but I lean CVA cascade head to head.

[@TheCodyO]

Didn’t you show the Ruger has the best average group size? The CVA may have shot the smallest group of the day but it also shot the worst, with a worse average. I would go with the Ruger for the consistency (at least concerning accuracy).

[@kellym3531]

@@TheCodyO I would choose Ruger also for aftermarket support.

[@russherbert839]

@@TheCodyO I’m a huge fan of Ruger, I’ve experienced their customer service and can say without a doubt it’s the best in the industry!

[@tray22]

I have a CVS and a Ruger American in the same caliber and the cva will shoot more brands accurately and outshoots my Ruger with its preferred ammo. Both are sub moa rifles and great hunting guns.

[@Zer0Edits00]

Umm, hey..you understand that a smaller group means better accuracy right? You find a cartridge load and bullet that it likes and you KEEP BUYING THAT AMMO. If you can shoot a 0.2 group with factory ammo, imagine what you can get with hand loads.

[@TheCodyO]

@ you do understand that one small group does not mean accuracy right? A sign of a good barrel is a barrel that shoots many types of ammo well. One .2 inch group is not enough to say the gun is inherently any more accurate or even that the ammo is a great fit.

[@ShilohValleyHomestead]

I wanted a new deer rifle for Illinois chambered in 350 legend. After many hours learning about the Ruger American Gen 2 Ranch I chose this rifle, unfortunately nobody seems to have any in stock. So looks like the CVA cascade SB will be next years deer rifle.

[@leewafer6583]

There is also the CVA SR 80 offered in 350 Legend as another option, 18 inch barrel , comes with a muzzle break, 10 round magazine, iron peep sight, and forward picatinny rail.

[@jockod420]

Appreciate your content and the reviews. One tip or thing i think would benefit the channel is a reduction in the volume of the background music for future videos, it makes it quite difficult to follow along with what you're talking about.

[@UltimateArms]

working on that more now. thanks for the comment and if you havent yet please subscribe today!

[@kwofle]

im not sure which i would choose, i do like the ruger american alot though, seems like a lot of bang for the buck with the ruger!! great review as usual !!!

[@UltimateArms]

hey thanks for the comment. yea it is a hard choice!

[@kellywills123]

great review, i know what you mean when you say you dont know which you would choose. !!

[@johnnewcomb5162]

I just saw the cascade in veil camo 308 with a vortex scope for $717 bucks i am thinking about picking it up. Great review.

[@UltimateArms]

@johnnewcomb5162 interesting is that is or canadian? And what scope

[@johnnewcomb5162]

@UltimateArms American, it had a vortex scope not sure of the exact model but the gun was nice looking.

[@UltimateArms]

@@johnnewcomb5162 probably not worth keeping the scope. are you using it for hunting.?

[@johnnewcomb5162]

@UltimateArms Yes I have a Leupold vx6 3-18x50 I was going to put in it.

[@mr.mr.3301]

Ruger Lighter, more aftermarket, aics mags, more barrel length choices, muzzle bread if you want it , chf barrel. Included pic rail. Cva nicer stock, better trigger, button rifled barrel, heavier, 18” no 16 or 20” option. Depends on what caliber and what it will be used for as to which is best for you.

[@jamesbrace3212]

Great review 👏 👌 👍

[@UltimateArms]

thank you !! glad you enjoyed it. and if you dont mind please subscribe today there is more to come!! and every subscribe helps the channel! thanks again

[@sgtpickles1319]

The exact two rifles I have been looking at. Guess I’m gonna have to get the CVA 24” in 270 for me and the Ruger 20” in 6ARC for the kids.

[@todsimpkins8908]

Check out the Cascade XT

[@greta-c4r]

this is such a toss up between the 2 of them. i think the cva would be the better rifle. but the ruger is really close to it! thanks for the review

[@ryanwindham2997]

You can get the Ruger in the ranch with shorter barrel for “the bush”

[@Xbolt1969]

Great review thank you

[@UltimateArms]

Glad it was helpful!

[@Rucksack57]

Great reviews.

[@UltimateArms]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bigracer3867]

Ruger hands down. Sorry you live in Canada 🎉🎉 stuff expensive up there🎉

[@UltimateArms]

Tell me about it

[@barneygo2010]

Me too, I should’ve moved to Texas back in 1981 when my folks made their way from Hongcouver BC to Houston TX. Anyways, it’s gonna be what it’s gonna be! Peace Be The Journey!

[@LogosMediaII]

My only comment on accuracy is that you shot the Ruger American with a Harris bipod, and the CVA on a bench rest set up. It would have been nice if you used the same set up on each to really verify the accuracy. Of course we know that CVA is actually Bergara / Dikar Spain, and Bergara is known to hold their own.

[@blaynemacpherson8519]

I liked the top and bottom video when you were shooting. I would’ve like to see the target in a small window in both videos. I know that’s hard and maybe pointless. So why do you shoot one with a bipod and the other with a front rest? Why not use one or the other for both rifles? Great review.

[@johncanterbury8152]

I have the Ruger gen 2 chambered in 22 ARC and one chambered in 243 both highly accurate also have a CVA cascade chambered in 22-250 and it’s very accurate hard to say which one is actually better I’m happy with all 3

[@UltimateArms]

i know what you mean. i know that the cva is more money but they are both hard to choice from. thanks for the comment

[@thatguyfishingben4794]

If the cva had more of an aftermarket it would be more atractive. No trigers, no chassis no anything for it. I have one in 300 prc but its basically just stuck the way it is.

[@Snailz5]

Call CVA. I think the trigger group is standard rem 700 so that would be upgradable if that were the case.

[@kevinbreese5739]

The Ruger American is a real Beaut to my eyes. Looks far more expensive than it is!

[@navdeepasi]

Live in Canada. I can't find a Ruger American for less than 930. Seen anywhere from 1050 to 930. Saw 1 in stock of a 308 ranch for 800 and immediately picked it up. The green and burnt bronze predator is beautiful. Would like that in 6.5. Do you have a recommendation of where you can find these close to msrp?

[@UltimateArms]

they are very hard to find anywhere in canada. i would suggest just to keep your eyes out for one, and buy it as soon as you see it. or it will be gone!

[@UltimateArms]

no where. they are hard to find, and the price will be set on demand. hope that helps

[@nulatosr23]

Hahaha!!! Yes!! I'm gonna have to choose both!!! Finally. A s smart man. You actually don't have to choose. Just get both!

[@drkcyd1]

I don't know why but Ruger just can't seem to get their magazines right and it drives me nuts.

[@UltimateArms]

@drkcyd1 how so the only thing I find with them is they don't lock in if the bolt is closed, or they are a little tight. Other than that I don't find anything else wrong with them.

[@drkcyd1]

@@UltimateArms On my first hunt with a ruger american gen 2 I "slapped my magazine in", only to find out it had fallen out on my hike to the stand. My fault? I suppose, but I won't go back to Ruger after that. Besides why can't they get this right?

[@UltimateArms]

@@drkcyd1 was your bolt closed?

[@drkcyd1]

@@UltimateArms Indeed it was

[@UltimateArms]

@@drkcyd1 i do find it tight to lock in with the bolt closed, but i never really put a mag in with it closed anyway. thanks for the comment and if you havent already dont forget to subscribe!

[@GhostRider-kw7zi]

Great review as always sir. As far as the CVA, how do you make sure you get the model with the oversized bolt knob?

[@UltimateArms]

I don't.the cascade sb i think is the one with it! thanks for the question and dont forget to subscribe. hope that helps

[@leewafer6583]

You can order the knob off their website, same as the conversion from internal magazine, to detachable if you want it, and your model doesn`t offer it.

[@UltimateArms]

@leewafer6583 i got this one used. so the guy that had it, bought it that way new from what he says

[@UltimateArms]

@@GhostRider-kw7zi not sure i got this o e from a guy that got it new

[@todsimpkins8908]

The cascade xt have big nob and threaded barrel

[@todsimpkins8908]

Well, the Gen2 is very limited in barrel lengths. 6.5 Prc in a 20 inch barrel???? That is a waste. The cva 6.5 prc is 24 in. Much better for that round. Also, should compare the cascade xt vs gen2

[@jmac6242]

Awesome video! Toss-Up. I like the idea of getting both😅 more $$$ is indeed the need...

[@UltimateArms]

Totally agree!

[@dougchandler1248]

Not interested in a bolt action for brush hunting when auto loaders, pumps and lever actions work far more effiecettly for those conditions.

[@BigGamePursuit]

What ammo was the .2 moa group with the CVA?

[@canadianadventureseekers]

Is that Christmas music. By the way, I can’t hear your voice. The music is too loud. Other than that good video.

[@Ryan_YoungUSA]

If you are outting a can on it, have to go Ruger

[@BrianSanner-rr6lp]

How does.the CVA win out when the Ruger has a smaller overall group size. If you are only going to use 1 box of ammo for this test, then use the same 1 box of ammo for the test. This wasn't a fair test

[@UltimateArms]

Where did u see me shooting or saying I shot 1 kind of amm9s? The cva did have the best group, and they were close for the 7 brands and all were the same for both rifles. The mag, and the st9ck is better. But it 8s very close in the end

[@codykelly8870]

Why not show what ammo you used?

[@UltimateArms]

because in both reviews of the rifles the ammo, and targets were shown

[@codykelly8870]

@UltimateArms thanks for the quick response. I looked up the video and found what I was looking for 👍🏼

[@UltimateArms]

@@codykelly8870 glad you found what you were looking for. and if you havent already please subscribe today

[@roytallericoGunner]

The music kills the video..

[@drbonefish]

What's with the music?

[@604rioso]

one is on bipods, the other is not...different scopes...so not an EXACT comparison...?

[@UltimateArms]

what would the scope have to do with the way the rifle is??

[@604rioso]

@UltimateArms well for example if ur assessing groups at 100 yards with a 2x scope vs a 30x scope...couldn't u see where you are aiming much better with a 30x? I'm not saying the two scopes in the video are wildly different...but isn't it possible that you could group better with 1 vs the other. Same thing with the bipod vs no bipod.... I'm just trying to recall high-school level science experiments...when running an experiment keep all variable the same except for the one you are trying to assess; in this case - the gun.

[@UltimateArms]

@@604rioso What? the arken ep5 is a 5-25X56 the tract is a 4-25-50 where do you think you see a 2x optic???

[@Parents_of_Twins]

Please lose the music when you are talking as it makes it really difficult to hear what you are saying, plus it distracts the listener from what you are saying so a lose/lose situation.

[@jimfields9491]

#allgunsmatter

[@leokid000]

Background music has to go. I could barely hear what you were saying.

[@ajnaquin7721]

Turn that music off

[@outdoorrn2980]

What kind of a namby-pamby choice is that?....🤔

[@What_Fred_Said]

Ruger is made un the 🇺🇸

[@slurmsmakenzie7970]

Ruger quality seems to be slipping unfortunately. 3 of my cousins have the gen 1 American, and they have issues with them. One just wouldn’t fire a couple weeks ago while he had a deer in his scope. A buddy of mine just bought one in 243 and it just suddenly stopped ejecting rounds easy. You have to use a mallet to rack the bolt and eject the case. He’s waiting to hear back from Ruger about sending it in. I’d take the CVA hands down

[@UltimateArms]

interesting, usually if you have a round stuck after firing, and you cant get the bolt back then thats a pressure issue. meaning to much powder. was he reloading or using factory rounds??

[@slurmsmakenzie7970]

@ ya that’s what I thought too! he was using Hornady white tail, (I think that’s the name, definitely hornady.) and at the same time we tried Winchester, and federal. Did the same thing! I’m curious what Ruger says

[@chuckyeager1130]

Can you still buy these after Comrade Trudeau has decimated gun ownership?

[@UltimateArms]

so far yes, only the semi auto assault stuff is mostly gone now. but from what i am hearing he wants the lever action, and pump action next, and maybe semi auto shotguns. thanks for the question and please dont forget to subscribe!