Rule The Waves 3 Naval Warfare And Management Game Stretching From 1890 To 1970! Review

[@Brenhydra]

This is the only game you could play at work, have your boss look over and say "damn my man's spread sheet is looking fucked up."

[@thatonejoey1847]

Hey hey people seth here

[@sdfarsight]

This is exactly the kind of stats-based nerdery I'm looking for; no arcade gimicks or pay-to-win unlocks, just lots of ships doing what they do.

[@simonsimons1252]

This reminds me a lot of old strategy games from the 90s and early 2000s. It's great. Simple presentation, complex gameplay.

[@TheBlazzer12]

I spent three days straight in this game. It's incredible, if you can look past the graphics. And even better if you can play in to what graphics are there, making your own deck plans and the like.

[@inquisitionagent9052]

What graphics my guy?

[@TheBlazzer12]

@@inquisitionagent9052 Deck plans and that picture designer thing if you manage to get attached enough to a design to make one, though tech progresses fast enough that it's rare that'll happen.

[@MagnusVictor2015]

Have been playing since Rule the Waves 1. It's genuinely heartwarming to see how the game has evolved over time; it reminds me of the years past when you would see similar improvements in the quality of even mainstream games. Sadly, those years are long-gone now (looking at you, Paradox).

[@terrymoose7273]

This new version of Battleship looks different then the one I used to play as a kid.

[@williamjeffery9653]

Arch holding Rule the Waves 3 and Ultimate Admiral Dreadnought close together face-to-face. "Now kiss"

[@xyhbhtt]

Welcome back to Windows 98 gaming in the style of windows error messages

[@codycannon8507]

Yes, but can I gangster lean my ship to gain more distance like the USS Texas?

[@vojtechslezak4553]

Well in battle no. But you can rebuild your older ships to have more elevation on their guns.

[@codycannon8507]

@vojtechslezak4553 The USS Texas literally did that. It bombarded the landing at Normandy, resupplied, came back, nearly beached the ship to keep engaging, enemy out of range, proceeded to flood all its blister tanks on its starboard side to change the angle of its guns to get more range to keep engaging the enemy.

[@vojtechslezak4553]

@@codycannon8507 I am talking about the game! Everyone knows what USS Texas did on D-Day. Playing with your gun range is something every nation did back in WW1. They were trying to find the sweet spot in terms of getting as much steal on targer from distance.

[@OmegaTou]

​@@codycannon8507 Texas only needed to do that because the maximum elevation on its guns never got upgraded. Some WW1 era ships DID get upgraded turrent elevation, and wouldn't have needed to do that.

[@SkeletonXin]

@@codycannon8507 That's badass, I didn't know about that

[@IanGerritsen]

The game REALLY needs a dark mode imo. There's a lot to love but my god does it burn the retinas. Also yeah better logging, after battle statistics, the ability to see what the hell is going on so you can tell what was good or bad about your designs.

[@krisrock3975]

On Logging: you can read all ship logs (enemy logs too) in the after action report. And while in battle, you can look at all modifers to firerate and accuracy. While in the after battle screen you can also turn on the movement charts to see there vor example the enemy cvs hid. But, all this informations are hidden 3 menus deep, so good luck finding them.

[@jaywerner8415]

Probably the most interesting thing about rules the waves, while it has barely changed since its inception, with each new game the have added a new era. First game was 1890s to just before Aircraft Carriers, Second game introduced Aircraft Carriers and Air Combat, And subs. Now Rule the Waves 3 has added THE MISSILE AGE! WELCOME TO THE COLD WAR BOYS! Of course we have to actually GET their first but ya know, its not about Destination its about the Journey.

[@TheHej2]

And the dreadnought fears nothing at all. Except for build time and cost, civil stability, logistics and submarines.

[@CoolSs]

this is the kind of game that if it was released 20 years ago. the manual would be bigger then the dictionary.

[@platysplatys3967]

Arch would probably like Aurora 4x. Space spreadsheet game with similar graphics where you can design your ships from ground up. Quite fun, very niche.

[@andrewgrinn3435]

Damn, you could play this at work and your boss wouldn't notice.

[@przemekmarek2404]

As an advice for new players I recomend at the start of the game to build 36 KE (24 colonial convoy escorts and 12 mineswepers) their role is wartime convoy escort. And to change difficulty level to "Captain's mode" it gives you ability to manualy launch torpedoes.

[@lordbaysel3135]

That's a bit much, slowly building up corvette forces with batches of about 3 (with 1st one possibly slightly higher if you start with colonies) should allow you to build some decent frontline ships, and i would say that having fast scout CL with every possible torpedo tube, oversized CA for duels in cruiser engagements and decent B that hits dock limit is your top priority, as you rarely have decent legacy fleet (at least that seems to work for me in 1890 start)

[@przemekmarek2404]

I can agree but I offten wait with first war for about 7 years in order to sort out my fleet.

[@OmegaTou]

Cry, Havoc, and let slip the spreadsheets of war!!!!

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

I still remember probably my greatest battle in Rule the Waves 2. It was around 1920, I was playing as Imperial Germany and doing pretty good for myself, the Kaiserliche Marine was a formidable force to be sure, not as large as Britain or America but I felt pretty confident in fighting France or Russia. War then broke out with Russia and so I naturally sent the entire High Seas Fleet into the Baltic Sea besides some old third line units I had left behind in Germany that were hopelessly obsolete and in need of either refits or replacements and scrapping. Overkill, some might say but, you see, this Russia was actually remarkably built up, having not lost a war they were in due to being on the winning side, and actually had a formidable force that could pose a serious challenge to the German Empire, probably being tied with Japan for fourth largest fleet after I murdered the French Navy. There were some skirmishes, some convoy raids, about what you would expect, and then a massive fleet battle took place where it seemed like the entire navies of both sides decided to go at it. The initial battle... did not go well. The Kaiserliche Marine, being trained to have better gunnery, did good, but the Russians also had good gunnery and managed to get off some very successful torpedo strikes against my battle line, damaging my battleships very heavily. None of them sunk, but it was clear that for them to remain on the frontlines would only invite their destruction. Because of this, I had decided to give Russia the tactical win, quit the field, and retreat to Germany rather than take losses in terms of ships that were hard to replace. However, first, I had to break off from the battle, something that was made much more difficult due to how much speed my battleships had lost and how the Russians would easily be able to catch up. Seeing no other choice, I ordered my battlecruisers, which were still in good condition, to reenact the death ride of the battlecruisers at Jutland and charge the Russian ships. This maneuver actually worked at forcing the Russians to break off, and my fleet slipped away, taking advantage of the fact the sun was quickly setting and setting a course for Germany. There was just one small problem, the way the battle had shaped up my fleet was closer to Russian Finland than Germany and the entire Russian navy was somewhere out there between us and home. Now, I had also trained the Kaiserliche Marine in night fighting, but with the damage sustained I did not want to run the risk of fighting the Russians. It was best to accept the losses and come back later. So a course was set with occasional alterations in the hopes that would lessen my chances of running to the Russians under the cover of night. Did that work? Heck no, it turns out I had managed to sail the entire High Seas Fleet right into the middle of the Imperial Russian Navy and I mean that I did not see them until I was practically right on top of them. It was at that moment that round two of the battle began, and let me tell you, it was a battle that was horrifying in its brutality. You had battleships and battlecruisers firing their guns at each other at ranges where any and all armor was completely irrelevant compared to their big guns. Scratch that, it was at ranges where armor was not only irrelevant but it was more a danger to the crews than anything else due to all the shrapnel that it would cause. You had destroyers trying to fire off what was left of their torpedoes at point blank range before getting near instantly killed by the secondaries of every other ship and light and heavy cruisers duking it out around the battleships and battlecruisers. You even had rival battleships crashing into each other and I can only assume firing off their guns at point blank range in a desperate attempt to sink their opponent. I like to imagine that the crews that were not busy with damage control or keeping the ship fighting were using sidearms to shoot each other given the range of this fight. That was how close to one another these ships were fighting at. It was a battle to the death under the cover of night with both sides doing everything they could to win and the entire naval war would be decided here, at this moment. Finally, the Russians had to call it quits, they lost all their battlecruisers and several battleships, many of them to magazine detonation, and so they had to break off and managed to extract themselves, retreating towards Finland. The High Seas Fleet was in scarcely better condition, what battleships that were not sunk were horribly damaged and at the risk of sinking, it was clear that the every ship still standing would probably have to go into drydock. Feeling like this was more than could be ever asked of the High Seas Fleet, I decided not to pursue and instead slowed the ships to a crawl to not make the flooding worse and waited for the time to finally run out as we had gone overtime. I forget the final scores but I remember the number being rather large and it counting as a minor Germany victory according to the game.

[@calorinedarkness5232]

I have only just now started the video and it already look amazing

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

I am pleased to see this video, having played a lot of Rule the Waves 2.

[@akumaking1]

Which Sabaton is most appropriate here?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

Yes.

[@vojtechslezak4553]

The Grey Ghost😜🤣 When it comes out…

[@simonnachreiner8380]

I regret ever saying Hoi4 had over complex navel warfare.

[@MrEmiosk]

Hoi 4 and complex are two words that do not fit together.

[@seymourfields3613]

Absolutely no way could I deal with that level of AI cheatery. You have to outsmart it by levels of 10X

[@antonisauren8998]

Devs stated that AI does not know when torpedoes are in the water but evades when ships in range have good solution on them. It is hard to belive sometimes and player can't see numbers for enemy side, but DD telegraphs launch pretty obiously most of the time, when it brakes attack approach.

[@1987chrisw]

These kind of games are great. Would love to see you bring back command modern operations!

[@IanGerritsen]

Arch Canaries Cage video sold me on it and later sold my old man on it too. Theres a Steam Workshop mod changing it from Spanish player to British with the Queen Elizabeth carrier and Gibraltar base instead of Juan Carlos and Spain which might be fun for him to play (was for me).

[@dominikvukelic2412]

3 years later Arch will play war games made in MS word and excel consisting entirely of symbols and words

[@RichardPhillips1066]

It looks like the Salesforce UI i use at work

[@Sujad]

That is some serious ghetto editing at 17:00.

[@williamthehammer1]

And I thought paradox grand strategy games were complicated...

[@A88mph]

Graphics aren't everything! Game developers need to understand this once more!!! If it's fun, it doesn't matter! I thought Minecraft definitively proved that!

[@Charlotte_WilliamsFYTG]

From the first frame of the video the game reminded me of Aurora. An indie space 4x game that might've had more depth then this with the same bare bones U.I.

[@SkarborrHUN]

Finally a naval game that's almost as accurate as Azur Lane.

[@imadethistopostponi]

The problem with going farther forward in time is everything starts to get very classified

[@rayz0101]

This is actually probably closer to an actual sim minus personnel management.

[@nicolaspeigne1429]

So can you recreate the dreadnought effect and make half your fleet obsolete by introducing your shiny new super ship

[@Krieg-ch8ot]

It's actually extremely common lol. I find other than building mass numbers of a destroyer class or light cruiser class it's hard to get anymore then two or three of a class of capital ship before new technology comes out and they either need to be rebuilt after launch or scrapped all together.

[@MrEmiosk]

​@@Krieg-ch8otto be fair here. That was typical and you discount the ability/time it takes to implement said tech for the enemy!

[@ftblr66]

Lol, excel the game. Is it bad that I was instantly interested?

[@IanGerritsen]

It's like the matrix... we just see cruiser, missile, blonde...

[@commisaryarreck3974]

You should try Aurora Amazing 4X game. Space autism simulator where you can even terraform planets. Railgun goods to other planets and by fucking it up....well don't fuck up your math

[@sadwingsraging3044]

😮Ooooo! Pushy buttons.🤤 And turret farms!😈

[@CJ-kg7yq]

Might be getting ptsd from the excel UI...

[@TheSmilingLord]

For a second there I thought I somehow brought up audacity.

[@ryan.1990]

*autism intensifies*

[@sprret]

So, does it have RTX support?

[@dnaseb9214]

This interface I can play this at work and nobody will know

[@FortuneZer0]

So a game for autists but the game disregards its own rules.... Does the developer have a death wish?

[@tohruadachi6137]

jesus christ, did the guy who make aurora make this?

[@VictorianTimeTraveler]

I wonder when Paradox is going to come out with a Cold War DLC for hearts of iron

[@commisaryarreck3974]

The game barely even runs late game Let alone expanding it to the cold War Era. Too much focus tree DLC to pump out and ask a ridiculous amount of money for

[@VictorianTimeTraveler]

@@commisaryarreck3974 all it would really take would be an alternate start date, say 1950 and a forced drawdown of forces to volunteer only combined with a war-weariness debuff to your recruiting pool..

[@therealgaben5527]

Looks fun to me. More proof that just having good graphics isn’t going to get you a good game

[@domobran7]

Why do you need to improve the UI?

[@kingbranden1369]

I'm confused. Is it supposed to be immersive or silly? Because the idea of designing a megazord warship capable of annihilating entire fleets is pure fantasy.

[@antonisauren8998]

Max dock size is capped, gun placement is limited and it won't spread main battery fire across several targets, so such megazord wouldn't be able to fight whole fleet while costing more than conventional squadron. Not talking about spending more time in repair than on station. And even if it would kind of work in one war, would get swarmed by bombers or SSM in next conflict.

[@Johan_the_Marshal]

What manner of make your own Text based rollplaying game is this!?!

[@rustydelata9398]

No rat girls?

[@alexius9072]

But can i stick 200 missile tubes on huge battleship? why would i? nooo why wouldnt i :D

[@demoulius1529]

Did Arch revieuw this game before or am I the only one who has a mayor case of deja vu?

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

Are you thinking of his review of War on the Sea?

[@Rastek19]

I wish you could control the land elements as well, after all, you’re the one paying for it all

[@janwitts2688]

England?

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

Sounds like a B indy game, since there's no graphics. Kind of like Ancient Armies by RealVirtual

[@declaration9704]

✏✏✏ NNNNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTTTTTTTTTH ✏✏✏

[@Volper1]

Arch needs to understand we like video games…not spreadsheets.

[@FARBerserker]

comment for interaction, but i am not watching 1 hour of spreadsheet warrior . .

[@ZevesG]

i would be interrested but theres abit to much fuckery for my taste. if the game looks like it was made for windows 95 it bether fucking have solid gameplay.

[@ironduke5058]

Man there's no way Arch doesn't have some form of autism his ability to process walls of text and find joy in these games specifically is uncanny

[@Rastek19]

Rtw3 is actually kind of easy to learn and play, the greatest hassle is the windows 2000 graphics

[@Dermeister009]

It's a crappy-er version of Ultimate admiral : dreadnaughts.

[@bewawolf19]

I dunno, still waiting for coastal battles on ultimate admiral. Or functional AI.

[@MagnusVictor2015]

The day that UA:D has aircraft interaction, better economy tracking, better battle AI, better strategic AI, better design AI, and a less arcade-y research mechanic, I'll agree that it has caught up to RtW2/3 in quality. Until then, UA:D is the zoomer version of RtW: vastly simplified mechanics, but flashier graphics to keep the kids entertained.

[@vojtechslezak4553]

@@MagnusVictor2015man. I was hopping for UA:D to have all that and more but then…😢

[@Dermeister009]

@@MagnusVictor2015 Grafics are important, because it helps you make battle descisions when you can see what's going on.. instead of relying on the " journal"

[@commisaryarreck3974]

Ultimate admiral is a poor copy of this game. But it had graphics so totally better. Nevermind the shit gameplay and the fact it's already been abandoned