NOT what I was EXPECTING! | Adidas Terrex Agravic Speed Initial Review | Run4Adventure

[@nomiscook0572]

Went with the Speed ultra version. True to size for me. Like the way you sit into the midsole so you get the plush feel without feeling unstable. My first experience of Lightstrike foam and it’s one of those shoes you know feels great after the first few hundred metres. Early days, but looking forward to putting more miles in them as the trails dry out and am now tempted to get the Speed trail to log majority of training miles in.

[@andrew_macneilage]

Really happy to see you've enjoyed this shoe, i have the speed ultra and im considering this one too. One thing everyone seems to get wrong is that the speed ultra is carbon plated, but its actually plastic rods that are mainly down the sides of the midsole and provide more stability than propulsion. Honestly dont know if i like any foam more than lightstrike pro, and it does seem to be incredibly durable for a superfoam Keep the good reviews coming, thanks

[@alexkhan2000]

I have the Agravic Speed Ultra and this Agravic Speed and I love both. I'm mainly a road runner but these shoes have really got me going on the trails again. I've tried various carbon-plated trail shoes like the Tecton X/X2, Endorphin Edge, and NB's SC Trail and I've come to the conclusion that the carbon plate is just not necessary on trail shoes and is actually a hindrance. It feels especially bad or harsh when going downhill. I'm a huge fan of Adizero shoes with the LSP foam and have the PXS v1/v2, Adios Pro 3, Takumi Sen 8/9/10, Boston 12, and Adios 8. I love them all and it's mainly because of the feel and ride that the LSP foam provides. Like you, it's my favorite by far although other foams are good for different usage cases. Anyway, it's why I've been waiting for the Agravic Speed Ultra and this Speed for ages and I'm really happy to have both. They are exactly what I've been wanting in trail shoes. The Ultra is way more stable than it looks and is more propulsive than any other carbon plated trail shoe I've tried. It's got that familiar LSP bounce but is still very responsive and also stable. It may not be the best for steep descents on gnarly rocky technical trails (I have the Nnormal Kjerag for such terrains) but, for everything else, the Ultra is awesome. The midsole stack height looks much higher than it is since the feet sit well below the rim of the midsole. As for this Speed, it's a very good complement to the Ultra. It's noticeably lighter and more agile, making it better for technical trails. It doesn't have the boomy bounce of the Ultra that keeps you going at a good pace on long distance runs and races, but it's got that trademark LSP feel and ride, which means it's fun. It's great for road-to-trail excursions as well. When I got the Ultra and Speed, I retired the SC Trail even though it still had some miles left in it. I just couldn't go back to it. Why "waste" a run with it when I can be enjoying the Ultra or the Speed?

[@Run4Adventure]

I realise that Andrew, I don’t know why I said carbon plated when the Speed Ultra uses a rod system. Glad you’re enjoying your shoes and I totally agree, the lightstrike Pro foam feels really good! Thanks for watching 🙏🙂

[@Run4Adventure]

@@TeoElryns normal shoe? 🤔

[@recguerra3]

​@@alexkhan2000this is the insight I was looking for between both. And I am an Adidas fan too, have/had Boston 9, 11, 12, Adios 5, Takumi Sen 8, SL20, aaaaand watching SL2 hype,aybe having one. So, if Agravic Speed is dual foam layered it follows the new Boston recipee? And Ultra would be more Adios Pro 3 style? Thanks for the insight! 👍🙌🇧🇷

[@alexkhan2000]

@@recguerra3 My understanding is that Agravic Speed is full length Lightstrike Pro under the foot with Lightstrike 2.0 rim for support and stability. I think the formulation of the LSP on these Agravic shoes is a little different from that on the road shoes. It feels denser, which is probably a good thing for the trails. Just received the SL2 today. Haha. Haven't run in it yet but I tried it on and did some light jogging in the house and it feels really good. I went TTS and it's a little snug but going half-size up would have been too much. Plan on taking it on a 5-mile run tomorrow. Seems like the perfect daily trainer that Adidas has been missing in the Adizero line. Priced right too!

[@rmsrmsrmsrms]

This shoe is the real deal: I also have the Kjerag, and the Speed Trail beats it. First things first: Size down 1/2size from the previous version or your normal size. US12.5@10oz 1/2oz more than kjerag, so very light. More toebox room than the kjerag, not overly narrow across the metatarsals as the kjerag is. More and softer cushion, with a rocker that helps forward propulsion and makes it more 'fun' to run in than the kjerag. 8mm drop vs 6, I'd prefer 6mm for steep downhills. Same ungusseted tongue (very unhappy about this!) as kjerag, but smaller gaps in ankle collar & upper to let rocks in. Laces that don't come undone, unlike kjerag. The TST is happier on smooth to moderate trails, but I did 3hours on steep fairly rocky singletrack yesterday with no serious complaints, no toe-banging or underfoot pains. Do use heel-lock to keep the heel stable. $40 cheaper than the kjerag!

[@simonRt]

Any other observations after more miles? Do you have Kjerag in your 'normal' size, and adidas 0,5 size smaller? Love running in Kjerag, but at 75kg I'm looking for some more padding underfoot for longer efforts with tarmac sections.

[@rmsrmsrmsrms]

@@simonRt I am also 1/2 size down (from saucony/nike) in kjerag, but that is fairly tight across the metatarsals, which gets worse with any foot swelling, no such issue with the TST. I haven't tried pavement with the TST, at 50miles now, but imagine it would do just fine. I'd probably say S-Lab Genesis (also 1/2size down) for racing (similar feel to TST but more stable heel, better upper), and either TST or regular Genesis (true to size? don't have it yet) for training

[@simonRt]

@@rmsrmsrmsrms thanks for the info, genesis it is. Tried on a bunch of shoes today, regular genesis fits like a glove. It's incredible really how plush yet secure they feel. Can't wait to put some miles in.

[@SeeChadRun]

Great initial feedback and video! I've been VERY interested in the Agravic Speed (more so than the Speed Ultra). Seems like a good shoe that some could run ultras in.

[@Acconda]

awesome video as always, NNormal Kjerag next please vs Long Kky 2 matryx, will love ya forever lol the two I am trying to decide between for trails and maybe short 5k park runs with the mrs.

[@philipking3010]

enjoying mine so far, they work great on roots and rocky terrain. they'll be my summer race shoe up to circa 50 miles.

[@fitness2568]

Got these also , they are actually pretty responsive cause of the dual foams and they actually felt really good on the road to which surprised me

[@markole7439]

Did 50k yesterday with this shoe..very dangerous in technical trails. I would recommend this for easier trails.Still love the shoe 🫶

[@TrailRunnerReviews]

I ran 13 miles straight out of the box and was really impressed. Like you at first I was totally unsure and really didn’t think I was going to like it at all, but as the miles wore on, I enjoyed it more and more, and really didn’t want to stop running. My only complaint would be the tongue length, it really should have been longer in my opinion. Besides, that one thing, everything else has worked out pretty well for my foot shape. 🔥🔥🔥

[@Run4Adventure]

Really glad you enjoyed your first run in the shoes! The young is pretty short but it didn’t cause me any issues 👍

[@paulmulks]

I have the speed ultra and wore them for the recent South Downs Way 50 and had no issues with stability personally. It doesnt have a carbon plate or rods, they are actually plastic. The midsole is amazing! My only complaint would be the very aggressive rocker which at times feels like it was digging into the medial side of my feet, its a bit like the Alphafly I'd say with the high arch. Someone as quick as you Loyd probably wouldn't have those issues so i would absolutely recommend trying the speed ultra

[@Run4Adventure]

I know it’s not actually carbon fibre used in the Speed Ultra Paul. I’ve had a few comments about the rocker being quite aggressive and causing issues? Well done on the SDW 50 and thanks for watching 🙏

[@largo741]

agrvic ultra is a totally diferent concept oriented for mountain technical terrain, can't be compared. i've used 3 pairs and for me they're unbeatable... great review anyway! love to test this agravic speed

[@Run4Adventure]

They are both trail running shoes designed for running long distances so they can definitely be compared 👍 I’m glad the Agravic Ultras have worked well for you and thanks for watching 🙏

[@alexkhan2000]

My understanding of the dual density foam is that it's all Lightstrike Pro under the foot on the bottom and the Lightstrike on top is just used as a rim for added stability.

[@RegenTonnenEnte]

So in the centre it's LS Pro from footbed to the sole?

[@alexkhan2000]

@@RegenTonnenEnte Yes, that is my understanding based on some previews I've seen. It feels like strictly LS Pro to me and I have the dual density Adizero road shoes like the Boston 12 and Adios 8 as well as the all-LSP shoes like the Prime X Strung (both v1 and v2), Adios Pro 3, and Takumi Sen (8, 9, and 10). I also have the new Agravic Speed Ultra and the midsole feel between that and this Agravic Speed is very similar although the Ultra has way more stack height and the Energy Rods.

[@elvay6847]

Strange that you found the outsole of the old Agravic Ultra to be poor in mud. For the mud type where I run, they are nothing short of FANTASTIC. The rest of that shoe sucks (except the $45 price tag when I bought them!) but their ability to shed my local mud and drain water is bar none. And they're low key really damn fast for about 100 miles/160km. Best 45 beans I ever spent for running kit.

[@Run4Adventure]

It was terrible, I was like Bambi on ice in the mud! 😮

[@seanxkelly]

Picked up my pair a couple of weeks before they were officially released it seems - I saw them on the adidas site on a friday or saturday night, I was waiting for them so clicked "buy", then went back the next day to check some stats on them ... and they were gone, not a sign of them on the site and the links from a google search had stopped working!! But they still turned up literally next working day 🤷 Anyway, I already had about 50 miles on them before taking them out for a 3hr forest track easy run today and absolutely no issues, so they seem to work for me for long runs. Will probably give them the task of the next 6hr run in a couple of weeks and if they pass that they may well be my ultra race shoe for this year. Obviously, grip sucks if you throw anything more than a hint of mud at them, Mudtalons they are certainly not, but for mixed terrain running when it's going to be fairly firm underfoot one way or the other they seem good!

[@leonardoe8869]

Hi from Brazil! Really enjoy your videos and how you review the shoes you try. I have a question about this Terrex, for a Ultra Marathon (100KM) would you say it is good enough or should I go for the Terrex Speed ULTRA?

[@matesdubanic1137]

Love your videos, they really help with choosing of the right shoe

[@Run4Adventure]

That’s great to hear, thanks for watching and supporting the channel 🙏😁

[@JohnnyLineham]

I've had my pair for a few weeks and really enjoy them. Curious you had to size up, I think I would go a half size down if I purchased them again. I find they feel really agile without sacrificing stability. Love them.

[@HawaiiFranke]

So you obviously won't test the speed ultra? I'd really be interested in a comparison of these two new adidas trail shoes.

[@pete801]

Loads of reviews on the speed ultra on KZbin. This shoe has been completely overlooked. Genuinely been waiting for a decent review on this one. Can't stand plated shoes

[@alexkhan2000]

@@pete801 I've tried a good number of carbon plated trail shoes and I've come to conclusion that a carbon plate is just not necessary for the trails and is probably more of a hindrance. I really disliked that slappy feel of the plate when going downhill. But I can tell you that the Agravic Speed Ultra is different. For one, the Energy Rods are plastic and the front part has the rods forked to mainly the sides. The rods are mainly for maintaining stability. The Ultra does not feel like other carbon plated shoes at all.

[@pete801]

@@alexkhan2000 mmmh why have you got to say that! I'm spending a fortune on shoes and feeding an unnecessary addiction. 200 quid as well. Light strike pro is a bit special so I've no doubt it's decent.

[@alexkhan2000]

@@pete801 Haha. I sure know what the addiction is like, but I'm honing in on just the right "drugs" now - quality over quantity (for my tastes and needs anyway). I was a little unsure about the Ultra as well at first and it takes a little getting used to, but I adjusted fairly quickly. Finally experiencing LSP's feel and ride on the trails is special indeed. Being a huge fan of all Adizero shoes with LSP for the road, I had been waiting for the Ultra and the Speed for a long while. LSP... Now that sounds like a drug! ;-)

[@paulmulks]

I've got the speed ultra and can say it's a fantastic shoe especially downhill. It has rods but they are not carbon. Super comfy and I'm looking at the Terrex speed to go with them 👌🏻

[@projectshoe]

It's a shame you didn't get chance to run in the original Adidas terrex Speed Ultra - they were/are a great shoe. Still available for bargain prices on the interweb.

[@kgenest100]

I fully agree! Very low to the ground, nimble, nice boost from the heel and surprisingly versatile outsole and amazing lockdown! I bought 2 pairs and still have the second one brand new waiting for me in its box. A great road to trail shoe.

[@Run4Adventure]

I’ve heard the original Terrex Speed Ultra was a good shoe, unfortunately my experience with the Argravic Ultra put me off trying them 👍

[@ThatFlowState]

The shoe doesn't have a dual layer midsole like you describe. It's Lightstrike Pro with a rim of Lightstrike around it reminiscent of the Saucony Xodus Ultra. While I am sceptical as well regarding the Agravic Speed Ultra in technical terrain it should be noted that it is not carbon plated. It uses plastic roads that are by far not as stiff as a typical plate and configured differently than in a road shoe.

[@Run4Adventure]

Well the midsole does use two different types of foam so surely it’s a dual compound midsole construction? You compare it to the Xodus Ultra which is definitely a dual compound midsole 🤔

[@ThatFlowState]

@Run4Adventure yes it's a dual compound midsole but not two layers of foam. There's no top layer of Lightstrike and a layer of Lightstrike Pro underneath it (firm on top, soft on the bottom) as your "Midsole" chapter (at least to me) implies. And although it's a little late now, in my experience when adidas says "True to size" on their website they mean true in regards to their other shoes, which is why you had to exchange yours. Looking forward to your full review, seems to me it could make for a fun workout shoe.

[@Run4Adventure]

@@ThatFlowState Cool 👍 Yeap, adidas definitely mean true to size compared to all their other shoes, it does size small. They performed well on their first outing and I’m looking forward to the next run!

[@PawelEPGD]

Do you have also Agravic Speed Ultra in Test-pipeline? Would be good to hear about the differences between them and Agravic Speed. I have just gotten A.S. Ultra and must say: First impression is very strange! But they are not as hard, as Adidas used to be. The Rocker (front/rear) is enorm high, but concerning running comfort I would compare them to TNF Summit Vective Pro (TheNorthFace are with Carbon, Adidas Ultra are with plastic plate). Cheers!

[@RegenTonnenEnte]

I'm always wondering wether true to size means "the same size as all our other shoes" or "actually the lenght listed in the size chart - which we also made up for ourselves"

[@scriptosaurusrex]

Well that's it, right? Apart from some of the asian sizing, 'size' is just a made up metric - hence why so many different places and societies use different sizing numbers, and they don't always seem to translate to the same size in a different system. I don't bother with size, and go by alleged length (a d failing that Japanese size, as that is length in cm) now. It's still not perfect, as volume and shape can change things, before even accounting for the size not being 'true', but it has lead to far fewer returns in general.

[@Run4Adventure]

I think you’re right about the sizing! 😂

[@Jacksndaie]

Would you say this is stable, and could double up for walking too? (On the South Downs)

[@Manuel-901]

Good afternoon. Interesting description. Thanks for what you do. Like to Run4adventure. A nice weekend for everyone.

[@patricksmit8887]

I am surpised by the picture you show at 10 seconds in the video the Adidas terrex agravic ultra, i have used the Adidas Terrex speed ultra (240 mark, not the 299 mark ) and that is a quite nice shoe for long runs on dry and technical terrain, for mud the profile is simply too shallow, agreed, the collar was indeed high and I could not take out the insole for less weight. In an early version I ran with al pleasure, a second pair caused me initially some blister (I then put a kinesiotape over the heel/achilles) but it was a superb shoe still. I would rather compare that one rather then the agravic version to the speed ultra, being a "racing" shoe/variant.

[@edwarjoselema6784]

I am so curious about this shoe and it is on discount now. But I am really unsure about the sizing. I wear 8,5 in sauconys, 8,5 in brooks. But I wear a size 8 for my Boston 12. Any advice on the sizing?

[@Run4Adventure]

I had to go up to a uk10 in these compared to my normal uk9.5 👍 As reference I wear a uk9.5 in a Saucony shoe. I ordered a uk9.5 to start with and they were way too small. Hope this helps 🙂

[@inkysteve1983]

I’m worried about the platform seems super narrow which is disappointing because I love the adidas pro3 and thought these would be the perfect trail partner

[@OrdMandrell1]

Been looking forward to this one...

[@Run4Adventure]

Hope you enjoyed it 👍😁

[@dinkthinks3958]

I’m loving the Rebel 4 and Mach 6 and Boston 12. Does this shoe fit those profiles for the trail? Any suggestions for what does?

[@jonoaerts]

Would really like you to review the Nnormal Tomir 2.0 or Kjerag 🙏 thanks for all your efforts

[@Run4Adventure]

I’ll see what I can do 👍

[@klipk7296]

the Agravic shoes have to have the most aggressive toe spring/rocker geometries I've seen

[@fabioguedes8041]

Boa noite. Este tênis de corrida (trilha) é propício para quaisquer situações durante a competição, por exemplo obstáculos incluindo areia aguada (praia) e subidas íngremes? Estou curioso neste tênis... Gostei muito do seu video. Abraços cordiais.

[@ozenfant_ozn]

50k subs just around the corner...!1!

[@Run4Adventure]

It’s not far away Ozenfant 😁 Thanks for the support! 🙏

[@seanwise7464]

I just finished a 10 mile run in the speed ultra, I don’t know if I like it or hate it. I love the Boston 12, adios pro 3, and even the SL so I thought these would be a no brainer, but not so sure. Main thing I have problem with is the huge heel rocker that apexes just before the heel. I noticed the speeds you have say 20 (degree) on them in the foam on medial side, my ultras say 30 degrees on them, so I assume the speeds being less aggressive of a rocker may not be as punishing if you get lazy and heel strike? Trying to decide if I should swap them out for the speeds.

[@Lag10]

I was hyped on the speed ultras after two separate 90 minute runs that I decided to use them for a 50k yesterday. I love the foam but the aggressiveness caught up with me and I felt all kinds of discomfort in my calves and hamstrings after 2 hours. So much so that I switched to Hoka tectons for the last 20k and immediately felt some relief. All that is to say that I’m planning to give the speeds (non ultras) a try instead with hopes that I get some of the lightstrike pro magic in a more natural geometry for my running form.

[@seanwise7464]

I may do that as well, thanks for the info

[@Run4Adventure]

I don’t think either shoe is really designed for a heel strike Sean. It does look like the rocker in the Agravic Speed is less aggressive but the shoe still wants to be on a midfoot/forefoot strike 👍

[@adidasTERREX]

Let's go 🙏

[@Run4Adventure]

They performed well out on their first run 👌

[@reign9771]

Who else is waiting for the update?

[@ANFEURST]

How is the Terrex Speed compared to Merrell Long Sky 2?

[@Run4Adventure]

They are quite different trail shoes. The Merrell Long Sky is more stripped back with less cushioning in the midsole compared to the adidas shoes 👍 The Merrell also has a much more aggressive outsole. Hope this helps and thanks for watching 🙏

[@bent7406]

How much space were you looking for between the end of your longest toe and the end of the shoe?

[@Run4Adventure]

About half a thumbs width is perfect for me 👍

[@aafrancis21]

Would you say this shoe is a good one for like 25km races, on modeate to easy trails? I had the Nike Pegasus Trail 4 and put in 400 miles in them, but wanted to try something new. Any suggestions?

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I ran this on my first run on a 26km after a storm. So I went through rivers, sand, grass, firetrail. And it is great. It is quite lively as you run faster but comfy at easy pace.

[@Run4Adventure]

You could definitely use them for 25km races or further 👍 They felt comfortable and fast out on the first run so I don’t think 25km would be a problem 😁

[@2spoons]

I always wonder what they 're like in the dusty dry trails....

[@GailBrookings]

have you done a review on the saucony peregrine 13 ST?

[@Run4Adventure]

I’m not a fan of the ST version of the Peregrine. I find the longer lug depth makes the outsole slippery on wet rock 👍

[@m.ch4rmaland3r10]

I find this true to size. Depend if you are using thick socks or more downhill than I find half size up is recommend. I use this more on fast trail workout and downhill/uphill and true to size works. The dual midsole is so good. I find anything sub 4:15 really nice and anything above 5:30 quite plush. The continental is great, but the lug shape/pattern is not that good. Got mine for 39% off, so I can't complain about the performance.

[@Run4Adventure]

Glad you’re enjoying yours! It’s a good shoe 😁

[@terencenicolasgo2040]

Would you run w this for TDS?

[@Run4Adventure]

I personally wouldn’t wear it for a long tough race like the TDS. The Agravic Speed is built to run quickly and I’m not going to be moving quickly at the TDS. I’d definitely wear them for a shorter mountain race, around 50km in distance. I’d go for a shoe that I know will be comfortable on my feet for 40+ hours 🏃‍♂️ Hope this helps 🙂

[@terencenicolasgo2040]

@@Run4Adventurethanks! I saw one of your shoe reviews about the La Sportiva prodigio.. and I think someone asked you if you’ll be wearing that shoe for TDS. I think you said definitely. So would you take the La Sportiva Prodigio for TDS? I’ll running TDS in August. Looking for a good and comfortable shoes

[@Run4Adventure]

@@terencenicolasgo2040 I would wear the PRODIGIO for the TDS 👍 What trail shoes do you normally use for long mountain races?

[@terencenicolasgo2040]

@@Run4Adventuremy recent race early this April I wore the brooks catamount 3 for the first 60km+ super lacking cushion especially on rocky terrain and changed to adidas terrex flow ultra the cushion was ok but not too comfortable and a bit heavy 😅 I managed to finished almost 34 hrs for 136km 8,500++ mountainous race called king of the mountain Pulag 100 in Cordillera, Philippines. I’m really looking forward for TDS but still figuring out what the best shoes to wear for the demand of the TDS course. I would give prodigio a try as you have run TDS before I saw your video here too.

[@Run4Adventure]

@@terencenicolasgo2040 Oh ok 👍 I wore the Saucony Xodus Ultra when I ran the TDS and they performed really well. I kept the same pair of shoes and socks on the whole way round 🙂 Best of luck with the TDS and hopefully we’ll see you out in Chamonix! 😁

[@kevinlemanquais2006]

That first shoe looked straight out of the 80s 😂.

[@Run4Adventure]

It also ran like it was from the 80’s Kevin 😂😂

[@er6fboy]

Hi, strange you had to send them back, becausre too small, while these guys, (kzbin.info/www/bejne/gqCnh6Cnncqgjqs ,and according to them, a lot of others) should have gone 1/2 to a full size down in order to have a shoe the right size....

[@Run4Adventure]

I originally ordered my standard size uk9.5 and it was so small my toe was pushing into the end of the shoe! However the uk10 I reordered fits just right so I can’t believe people are sizing down? I’ve also found most of the adidas shoes I’ve run over the years have sized small 🤔

[@mattpeters6224]

Still waiting for something better than Speedland. Not yet adidas.

[@Run4Adventure]

Have you tried the Agravic Speed Matt? 🤔

[@mattpeters6224]

@@Run4AdventureJust hit the US not long ago. So, not yet. I’ve been tracking the progress of this shoe since Tom and the team did so well at Western States. I have watched most of the reviews from the bigger accounts and the reception seems lackluster at best. Have you had a chance to try the Speedlands? Thank you

[@Run4Adventure]

@@mattpeters6224 No I haven’t run in the Speedland yet, it’s a bit expensive for me and it’s quite hard to get hold of in the UK 👍

[@mattpeters6224]

@@Run4Adventure Definitely expensive up front. I believe D’BO has over 500 miles on the GS:TAM which as you know is his commission shoe. I have well over 300 on mine with very little wear. And with some mild soap and a soft brush they clean up extremely well. Thank you for your reply.