RunCam Nano Split, Caddx Baby Turtle

[@MrTopli]

That smooth camera movement at the beginning. It was almost slider like! Or the smoothest zoom I've ever seen in a KZbin vid haha

[@jeremychotto2688]

Totally agree with you with a wider field of view. Till this day the hcf7 aka mob7 camera is still my favorite camera and the runcam nano 2 with the 1.8mm lens.

[@mericm1981]

That is a beautiful neighborhood.

[@alexanderthygr8]

Lord Bob has spoken, we shall bow to his FPV & dental greatniss 😂😂😂

[@Kabab]

🙈

[@kVarfpv]

Every gram matters, no gain, no pain lol

[@oscarrobinsonteddy9847]

I was going to put a baby turtle on my geprc phantom, but ruining live experience through my fpv feed isn't worth having hd footage to watch afterwards. That's what a mini quad with gopro is for, imo

[@Burn377]

It is something you can get used too, I've been flying the cx3 wtih the split mini v2 for a while and just upgraded to the hybrid. I don't notice a massive difference as far as latency but the fpv feed is far cleaner. In saying that I'd say the splits fpv feed is better then the EOS on the phantom, though the added weight of the turtle may give an undesirable experience.

[@oscarrobinsonteddy9847]

Thanks for the reply, I'll have to try a split on a bigger micro setup soon

[@gavinvales8928]

Lol for the OV231 a while ago after watching a UAVFutures episode, it I actually need it now he he

[@simosantiago]

@8:53 do you know why the run cam nano fpv feed starts to show horizontal lines? Thanks for the review btw.

[@Kabab]

It's because of my Rx antenna placement. It moved during flight and went into a bad position

[@simosantiago]

KababFPV thanks. My original TP does this at times and I suspect it has something to do with having the camera and receiver sharing power (solder pads) on the AIO board. Power cycling the lipo clears it. Maybe a good excuse to upgrade to the TP3 :)

[@DarrenAllatt]

The Canopy 😜

[@licensetodrive9930]

On the subject of HD cameras for quads, seen the Caddx Orca? GoPro Session size HD cam where the recording specs look IDENTICAL to the HD part of the Tarsier. I wonder if they've fixed the off-center 4:3 cropping...

[@Kabab]

it's another caddx product. unless they've magically fixed their QC, it's gonna be trash

[@licensetodrive9930]

@KababFPV lol too true, I was a little hopeful when I saw they're bringing out a session size camera, until I realised they've just repackaged the Tarsier's HD core. I'm actually ok with the Tarsier when it records at 4k, but annoyed they screwed up the 4:3 cropping because I wanted to use the 2.7k 4:3 mode.

[@Sully365]

RUncam uses a remote that plugs into the port by the SD slot

[@1LittleTinker]

How long before the bytefrost type board and cam are shrunk down enough to make these products redundant?

[@jebrc]

My baby turtle came working great

[@JoshKetchum]

Them Gemfan 3018s tho :) the twins are not bad on a really light toothpick

[@Kabab]

They're definitely still good. The triblade is just so smooth

[@dpschof9063]

how do you reckon these would be on the babytooth? i love my babytooth and would love had recording on it

[@Kabab]

Working on something

[@Leonn_.]

I completely agree about the video FOV. The FPV feed. seems flyable to me. FOV in the FPV feed is a bit too small. Im used to 160 degrees FOV lol

[@bentray1908]

Looking forward to the new props

[@Clif_Brown]

I got the baby Turtle and it was way out of focus from the factory. I was able to mostly get it back into focus, the HD footage is in focus. The FPV feed on these Whoop HD cams like you said, pretty bad.

[@MrFadjule]

tl:dr "I made it light. If you don't make it this light, your's sucks. ::mic-drop::" -Bobfloss, giving "Happy little querds" eating disorders till they break inside.

[@makaveligreen5458]

I know this video is old but where can I find those exact canopies? And do they come in black?

[@Kabab]

They're not good. They're basically like egg shells. Very brittle and crack super easily.

[@MCsCreations]

Bob, you better call a exorcist. You're really unlucky with Caddx products! 😂 Anyway, on my Twig it works like a charm. I even decided to get another one for a little wing I'm going to build! 😃 Great flying there!!! 😃

[@licensetodrive9930]

Maybe if he starts listening to Tubular Bells (The Exorcist theme music) it might help :D

[@MCsCreations]

@@licensetodrive9930 That's true! 😂😂😂😂😂 BTW, check my flight video later! It's near the end of my last video! 😃

[@licensetodrive9930]

@MC's Creations On it! :)

[@Burn377]

I have the same focus issue on my tarsier but only on the hd cam... Not had much luck with caddx products.

[@spartan-fpv6936]

Gday Bob, awsome review i think your enthusiasm and commitment to the toothpick is great, its such a shame that caddx doesn't have better quality control of there products as some there camera's are really good, the tarsier, ratel and if you can find it the eos 1 dont you use the tarsier on your 5 inch quads? 👍🛸

[@Kabab]

I just have a bunch of products with the tarsier built in. I don't use it on any of my personal quads

[@spartan-fpv6936]

@@Kabab So what is your favorite fpv view camera i know that you said the tarsier has a good fpv view i haven't tried one yet, thanks Bob.

[@Kabab]

@@spartan-fpv6936 micro eagle by far.

[@viperFPV4u]

Good review! It's helpful to me! Good job 😎👍

[@overfly_pt]

Great cameras 👍👍👍👍

[@olivierf.4931]

Hi! totally agree on everything about the run cam . I have the Eachine cinefun with it and the field of view of the hd is amazing. The image is quite crisp too but not amazing at all. What annoys me is the enormous fisheye distortion of the lens that kills any hope of using it as a cinematic tool. It pretty much renders it useless in terms of cinewhooping in my opinion.

[@christianhansson5842]

Very usefull video. Thanks.

[@whitmeade4834]

I too have had a lot of problems with Caddix cameras

[@Kabab]

Let them know. They constantly tell me to stop lying even though I'm explicitly showing the failures on my channel. 😂

[@gman1185]

So have I, I joined their FB group and my posts get edited.

[@zoltangremsperger5361]

get me a TP3 frame Kabab plz. I'm ready to order the whole TP3 at Fpvcycle but no frame at the store. I'm in Europe and I would like to order everything at once but there is always parts that are out of stock.

[@Kabab]

working on it. hang tight. All the parts are almost done being made

[@zoltangremsperger5361]

@@Kabab once I put together the TP3 could you help me to share your PID settings on Betaflight 4.2?

[@zoltangremsperger5361]

@@Kabab I've ordered all the parts for the TP3 (except the frames). for battery I can't find the same, do you think this HV battery is"GNB 450mAh 3S 80C LiHV Battery" can replace that? also, do you have an email address you can share because I have zero contact info for you Bob.thx

[@marc_frank]

@@zoltangremsperger5361 look in the channel description

[@FredSena]

Once they hit all the top requirements, the sales of the rest goes down, and there will be nothing else do so afterwards. So, we will always have to deal with half finished products. It is a market strategy.

[@leftyfpv8263]

now take that build and cut a top mounted frame, just use short standoffs about 15mm. Its like bottom and top mounted on 5inch, that big a difference, at least to me. Also to say that I actually prefer it to be a bit heavier at around 108-110 auw, at the 100 mark it feels too floaty. Its like flying with and without a gopro, kinda.

[@Kabab]

I think if you tested these two setups that I have tested year you would definitely go for the lighter option. Even if there was a version with the battery on top. I have done a whole lot of testing in this department. If you prefer sort of feel with a wide weight distribution and battery on top then sure that's your preference. As far as I have found, low weight and a very tight weight distribution is the only way these micros can perform as well as possible.

[@kevincortez6227]

i'd just prefer them just make these only for recording hd footage. keep your existing fpv camera in place, and just mount this on top where a go pro would go. remove the fpv feed dependency, and reduce it's power consumption. It would be perfect. baby ratel in front, with this on top.

[@scootroter4859]

Bro, try the AKK Oscar's backpack with MMCX and only 2.8g with the AKK Nano camera (2g). The VTX screws down to the camera to make a very compact set up! The camera's board is super slim. I made a Toothpick with this set up and it's awesome! Flies amazing! Superb image and awesome range and reception! AUW of 45g exactly with GEPRC 12amp FC, R-XSR, and 1103 10000kv motors. Actual flight weight with antenna, just add your battery. My Turnigy 2S 370mah super thin LIPO makes it only 71.8g! 😊 Plus, a hidden bonus, the VTX says it's 25 and 200mw...but every test I've seen, by several people with the good equipment to test output power (that Immersion RC tester) show it tests out at 400mw! You can now get SOOOOO MUCH BETTER penetration through trees, etc. and much better range too, of course! Plus, the camera is awesome! Such balanced color without a hint of over saturation, no off tint, and good contrast, and very sharp! Not soft like O231 or who0p camera. I think you will be very pleasantly pleased! And, when on sale, you can get BOTH for only $24 ! No red blotches or sparklies either! 😁👍 Absolutely smokes all other Nano cameras, but the Predator 4 Nano. I think I may have found you your new Nano VTX/Camera combo! 😎🤘I love it! I have 4 now...

[@Kabab]

With what camera? The ov231 is pretty darn good for the weight. It's as good or better than all the available nano cams I've tested. They're all low resolution looking and weigh a whole lot more. You don't get much for all that weight.

[@scootroter4859]

@@Kabab this one: www.akktek.com/akk-nano-camera-for-oscar-s-backpack-vtx.html Backpack is on right side of this listing for easy access...or search for it separately. They make a wonderful pair! If Oscar Liang put his name on it it's typically good! That camera was rel;eased recently but no one knows about it and almost no one has reviewed it! I use the backpack a lot because I like MMCX and HATE u.fl because it ALWAYS breaks, comes off, the connector fails, etc,etc,etc... I have yet to have even one failure or disconnect with the MMCX on the backpack VTX! Just over 5g for the pair! LOW COST! And far superior performance to what you are using now...and you get MMCX....and I've been through that! lol...and you get 400mw...even though it just says 200mw, because all tests show 400mw! So, range galore, and less break up because of better penetration! AND WE ALL LOVE PENETRATION!!!! Right?! lol ;)

[@scootroter4859]

PS...it comes with that toggling board so you can actually adjust your color, saturation, etc on that cheap, tiny, lightweight 2.5g camera! There's a 1st! :)

[@Kabab]

@@scootroter4859 hmmmmm

[@peterzingler6221]

Man a buddy of mine has the twig and it flies like pure shit. The caddx has more jello then actual jello could ever have.. And then look at the tp3. Worlds of difference

[@Kabab]

I try to explain this so much and still get people telling me I'm full of it and whatever they've been flying flies great....share it with the world please. The details matter

[@peterzingler6221]

@@Kabab yes indeed it matters a lot. The motors alone seem to be a world of difference. Still all the big youtubers promote shit since they get paid big money and people lick there feet for it without having own opinions.

[@MCsCreations]

@@peterzingler6221 Tell him to switch the props to the HQProp 3x2. It makes a huge difference!

[@mimiin5553]

It looks very nice tri blade props. Is it new 3inch props?! I can't wait its review!

[@pablogiron7385]

If no split camera is good enough. What do you recommend to improve the recording of videos on a sailfly without losing too much quality in the fpv image? And in flight performance. An onboard dvr like the euncam mini dvr? Change the camera to a micro eagle? Any tutorial for all that?

[@Kabab]

Just an onboard DVR. If you require better footage, look to larger quads. These little things can't pull a lot of weight

[@pablogiron7385]

KababFPV you refer to a dvr recorder onboard with sd to not lose quality with the aerial or simply change to a dvr better that sailfly that does not exceed 25w?

[@Kabab]

@@pablogiron7385 correct. Onboard dvr

[@thetubemeister82]

Looking forward to getting a TP3! Looks like it is all close. Will you be stocking the Bee Brain canopy at Fpv Cycle?

[@Kabab]

Yep. Coming on Monday the bee brain

[@harrylenon9594]

that is so weird that your caddx cameras are all messed up, ive never had an issue. perhaps they send them on purpose just to screw with you 😂 also just from this video i reckon the caddx looks waaaay better, even if one side is blurred.

[@edouardmalot51]

Big thanks

[@JoshKetchum]

Agree on all points lol.. the RC nano is OK but not great.. Tarsier is best of all by far, totally disappointing the RC Hybrid does not use a swift board or nano2 board.. the fpv feed SUCKS. I combined a Nano2 and a Nano split on one setup, worked pretty good that way ;)

[@maxpwr_fpv4987]

When will they just put a HD DVR behind a decent FPV cam like the micro eagle?

[@marc_frank]

there is the runcam dvr board 20x20 mounting you can do it yourself

[@tehllama42]

I know you wanted to discuss cameras, but I'm just looking at those Gemfan Triblades and drooling. Keep talking, buy also TAKE MY MONEY!!!!!

[@Kabab]

Should be coming this Friday

[@JohnDBloch]

Here is what I want. I want this kind of camera with a box (or printable mount) to mount the lens on top of my glide, and no fpv view. I dont understand why nobody has made a decent looking 1080p60 (like the runcam in your video) that is ONLY for recording. Products like the dolphin are trash, sessions are way to expensive now (ive seen 2 die recently and throwing $200+ at one seems scary to me) and something with an easily replaceable camera apparatus only makes sense to me. Do cameras really need to weigh 74 grams like the session does? Why not make a board with a cap on it so it saves when the power is removed like fatshark dvr? I just feel like a small caseless HD recorder makes so much more sense for an fpv pilot than something that carries its own batteries and has its own set of issues. Dont get me wrong, GoPro 100% has the best looking video footage by far, but I would rather get a system that only requires me to buy a $30 replacement camera rather than having to replace a whole system when it falls from 50 feet or hits something at 80mph. Build the board with a pinch for the camera wires like some of the tbs vtxes have for the antennas, and then when you rip a camera off you have another one in your bag, and it takes like 30 seconds to replace, and only costs as much as a night out.

[@Kabab]

I think a hero 7 with no battery or screens is ideal. But unfortunately they won't make us that. If they did it wouldn't weigh more than maybe 10g. We could literally get fantastic HD from a toothpick class quad if they would make it for us.

[@djs134]

I put a runcam nano 2 on my tinyhawk freestyle with a custom 3D mount and the performance difference from those few grams was insane. Needless to say I had to go back to the stock camera even though the fpv feed is far superior on the runcam nano 2

[@DoRC]

Interesting. Was that my mount?

[@djs134]

Do RC actually it was lol. And the mount was awesome I’m definitely not knocking it. Im mostly referring to the added weight being a factor. I didn’t notice it much when I added the runcam but just as a experiment I took it off and went back to the stock camera and the tinyhawk suddenly felt supercharged so that added weight played a factor. I believe kabab says the sweet spot for 2s is 73-75 grams for 2.5” props and with the runcam I’m at 84.67 after going back to stock camera I’m at 77.03 so still to heavy but that’s all I can do considering I added a xm+ and a eachine nano vtx.

[@DoRC]

@@djs134 ah. I only have the camera upgrade on this one and it still flies well. I probably won't ever upgrade it further.

[@djs134]

Do RC my vtx upgrade and Xm plus really didn’t add any weight since I removed the old vtx but yeah I’m done also

[@DoRC]

@@djs134 I gotcha. I honestly haven't been flying it much lately. I've been distracted by the 3" toothpicks.

[@erick4188]

Which is faster, the tri or bi blade prop? Also, when may the frame be in stock?

[@Kabab]

We are hoping this rain will be in stock next week.

[@Kabab]

Hard to say. I think maybe that triblade

[@kydawg1684]

I can deal with the FOV so much easier than the 100% CRAP video feed. Just garbage and such a turn off from the product. Seriously what can these companies not see the OBVIOUS issue with these???

[@jankyfpv4081]

Can you add a link to those canopies? Those look perfect.

[@Kabab]

They look perfect but I just got done testing them. They're super fragile. I had ordered a thousand of them for the store but then canceled the order when I broke four of them in really light tumbles.

[@jankyfpv4081]

@@Kabab thanks for the heads up. Any other canopies you can recommend?

[@Kabab]

@@jankyfpv4081 I'm gonna stock something printed soon. Just need to choose one

[@stylesuxx]

I don't think it is you who is the problem with the caddx products - I also did not yet have a decently working product of theirs. On paper all of their products look awesome, but as soon as you have it in your hands it is just: WTF...

[@offaxisfpv]

kinda screwed up that scale eh. not exactly what they weigh lol

[@dbugman68]

I can't find the camera on fpvcycle.com

[@Kabab]

it's being listd now

[@xfOL.]

did you tried 199c? I personally like it more than ov231, especially indoors

[@Kabab]

Gosh I didn't even know this existed. Do you happen to have any video anywhere of what it looks like? What's the difference between the OV231? Looks like the same camera, just different lens?

[@Kabab]

Looks the same or maybe even a wider FOV: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaqVd5Z3nreBjK8

[@xfOL.]

@@Kabab here I'm flying with this cam and toothpick kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmbXfmyen9GFrbs

[@xfOL.]

@@Kabab btw it's the same size as newbeedrone cam

[@xfOL.]

@@Kabab I think colours a bit better, than ov231

[@mongofpv3744]

Run cam used bar codes to set up I think .

[@Kabab]

This one too? I don't know but whatever it is default settings are good

[@RunCamFPV]

Not this one, this is only set up by the UART remote Flight Controller or manully use the buttons on the board. Camera Status Light: Orange is On • Press the Power/Shutter button to move to a setting. • Short press the Mode Switch button to change setting. • Long press the Mode Switch button to exit the menu.

[@christianmullins435]

when is the tp3 going to be back im stock

[@Kabab]

Maybe tomorrow? Whenever this damn box arrives.

[@theresonator01]

I have received 2 broken normal caddx turtle's this company have QC issues

[@Kabab]

Yep I've had more faulty products than working ones. Many many more. Their QC is awful

[@marc_frank]

which vtx do you use with the ov231?

[@Kabab]

I used to use the happymodel diamond vtx, but now i'm using something else I don't even know where it came from

[@marc_frank]

@@Kabab i like the eachine nano vtx 400mW the ones in the 16x16 stacks keep burning out and you cant buy them separately and they tend to take the fc with them i want to order the diatone esc fc stack and put a mounting platform on top for rx and vtx the fc and esc rarely burn out on their own, only with the vtx that would still be a 3 board stack, but with the rx "intergrated" weight distribution is a problem but looks nice with my frame i found the hq65mm props to break easily at the hub i would recommend the t mount version over the normal

[@swugger]

Zoooooooooooom

[@XxKiloxX406]

What canopies are those?

[@Kabab]

They're no good is what they are :-D. It's the Eachine Twig canopy and it's super duper fragile. Not recommended.

[@XxKiloxX406]

KababFPV dang... any recommendations other than 3D printed ones? I have a few I’ve printed but dang they are heavy

[@Kabab]

@@XxKiloxX406 for a nano cam 3d print is best. For the whoop cam we recommend I the FPVCycle store, the bee brain v2 is best and will be available on the store in a few hours

[@h2o-fpv623]

Can u do a video how to install caddex?

[@Kabab]

what do you mean how to install? Just screw it in place where the camera goes and plug it in. Like that?

[@h2o-fpv623]

@@Kabab I meant the cables that the caddx comes with also have 2 cables with a board that the 2 cables I connect to this other board that the camera comes with so I just not connect those two that's where I'm confused

[@h2o-fpv623]

@@Kabab from my understanding those two wires are for set up the settings in the camera but I saw a video where u can use the radio to enter the settings for the camera .

[@Kabab]

@@h2o-fpv623 yeah you can use the uart but I'm way too lazy for that

[@h2o-fpv623]

@@Kabab hey thank for answering me I think I solve the problem anyway so thank u so much

[@overfly_pt]

300 👍

[@Kabab]

Nano Split Whoop: bit.ly/2r2lzak Nano Split 30x30: bit.ly/34q4dTq Baby Turtle Whoop: bit.ly/2r9kii1 TP3 videos: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hHfMnptraLyGpdk kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJuQqWOAq75keNE Parts available at www.FPVCycle.com Here is the canopy but I don't recommend it. It's extremely fragile. bit.ly/2nKmWJt Bangoood coupon list: bit.ly/2BMqDlj Something you might want may be on this list. Might as well save some money. I'm going to start sending all the stuff on my channel randomly to my Patreons: bit.ly/2oGLP9b ▼Join my FB group for more discussion: Kabab FPV facebook.com/groups/379155946182689/ ▼ My typical 5" quad setup: -Hyperlite Glide Floss Lite: fpvcycle.com/collections/frames -Motor: -Xing 2306: bit.ly/2Nqqr25 - ESC: bit.ly/2oDdzvL -WaFL’s Cap Cap: bit.ly/2GUpXxO -Battery: bit.ly/2JnsTDM -FC: bit.ly/2XRc8G8 -FPV Cam: bit.ly/2Q7LfL7 -Vtx: bit.ly/2HsrASs -ND GoPro Mount 30deg: bit.ly/2WC15zc -ND Filter (if used): bit.ly/2WEmQ1j ▼My preferred goggles as of Sept 2019 bit.ly/2k5YNv5 ▼Notable motors: -Xing 2306: bit.ly/2Nqqr25 -Xing 2208: bit.ly/2y3te8R -FANTASTIC 6" motor: bit.ly/2LqghOZ -Starter goggles: bit.ly/2qbJNOS ▼ If you want to solder better: -Fantastic solder: amzn.to/2P5QM2W -Fantastic iron: goo.gl/DqBipa ▼ Tips? Patreon: bit.ly/2oGLP9b -PayPal: www.paypal.me/kababfpv -Bitcoin: 1E4XZXoD4rS6MYWVWuenY7Kw2M1YgyNpoQ -Nano: xrb_1188ek5bd7tb9kw67asnp9o65byuoaxbtpxuznx1ribf75x78awywmakj55f -ETH: 0xD067F93811f2eC31CB1928901002dfdf9A492EF5 -LTC: La2KWYAjp4VT2Lq2M76pbjzXWvRyjpfCtG -Tesla Referal code: ts.la/bob40889 Please use my referral code if you're gonna buy a Tesla. You get some free stuff when you do and I get better status with Tesla.