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[@thatguyontheright1]

Do you need a touch screen to run rune audio or can you use physical buttons?

[@alerey4363]

your software (linux distro) and your hardware (hifiberry) fully support hi-res files so I recommend u ditch the mp3 and rip off your CDs to flac 16 bit 44Khz resolution; and to really push the system to the max get some hi-fi digital audio tracks 24bit-192khz from Dr Aix records or Chesky Records, couple the system to some pro headphones and you're into digital audiophilia with both feet

[@edstar83]

Mp3 and acc sound just fine while saving space for more files.

[@sc0or]

It does not matter, as the very basic hifiberry he used, utilize Pi I2S, which is driven by system oscillator, which is far from 44/48 proper ratio. So, a more advanced DAC hat is needed to get some advantage with lossless data.

[@alerey4363]

@@sc0or mp3 is lossy, always matters when u switch from it to a lossless codec like FLAC, on *ANY* given system

[@CJT80]

David excellent video, I have previously purchased a Raspberry Pi 2 plus the HiFI Berry DAC+. I have it connected to a External NAS drive and it's serves as my daily music player. I have to admit I love the look of the Raspberry Pi official screen and I will be looking at that as an "upgrade". Just a small side note I run my Pi via a USB plug, so I would think that maybe your screen isn't getting enough "juice" from the powerbank. I chose the DAC+ as it has full onboard RCA jacks :-)

[@dfwpiper1]

Does the touch screen w volumio have a popup virtual keyboard to search for a song or artist? Or is it scroll and touch only?

[@mohammadthalji9616]

How can I use a task manager for the Raspberry pi so it will start playing music at prescheduled time and shutdown at another prescheduled time?

[@joaleurico]

I just put together a similar player, but ended using two RPi, one for the player and one for the touchscreen, accesing the player using a web browser. I am using a HiFiberry DAC + hat and feeding the output through my vintage Sansui receiver. Playing only flac music files. The quality of the sound is wonderful. Your video have been very helpful.Thanks a lot !

[@jonathanfulcher602]

reichelt is very Big in Germany

[@xcruell]

Hab ich noch nie von gehört.

[@amgnico]

Jonathan Fulcher yes

[@daniel_watkin]

Love the really clear instructions! Will the HiFiBerry power a set of headphones or will it require an external AMP as well? Thanks

[@Max2Play]

Great video, very thorough and clear! We'd love it if you would consider checking out our OS as well, it's also based in audio applications but can be customized with plugins to add other functionalities.

[@beejay7665]

So glad I found your video (and so glad you pressed “record”!). New to RPi, I’m hoping to build something similar, but had no idea what software to use, and how it would all go together. I got an old pi B+ to boot last night, and have a zero 2w and touchscreen arriving this week, and your video gives me a roadmap and the confidence to take on this project. Thanks for making and posting this video

[@legion2k988]

128gb sd card.. my first hard drive was 30gb... LOL

[@andysherman711]

legion2k lol, mine was 85Mb 😂

[@mattivirta]

under 2:05 minute video has big mistake. why use shit SD cart because can use HDD/SDD and forget all shit SD card out. i has buy 12 pcs 32gb sd card but any not work in raspi 3 b+. only 16gb sd card or now HDD work good.

[@sweiss042]

How do I add music to the Rune Audio Library? I have a Raspberry Pi 3 B with a Digi+ Pro card HAT. I want to hook up a CD Player to rip the CD and a SDD to store the music. Can someone please point me at documentation or suggest how I rip the music to store in the Rune Audio Library (if reasonable am willing to pay for some consulting) really appreciate any help. Would love to be able to correspond/talk with someone to get going. Thanks!

[@DavidWatts]

You will need to use a PC (or Mac if you must) grab a copy of 'Exact Audio Copy' put a CD into your PC and the software will pick up all the meta data and album art. Store it all on a drive and if you plug that into the USB of your Rune Audio player and it will either auto update the database or you can click 'update MPD'

[@sweiss042]

Thanks David. This seems to imply to me - that the PC will rip the music and that the music files must be imported into the Rune Library as a separate step. If the Music is stored on the PC where is the Rune Library and Music kept? Is the idea that I will rip the music to the USB Disk, plug it into the Rune Player, hit update and then the Rune Library will be updated and I keep the disk plugged into the Rune Player until I need to add more CD where I will unplug and plug back into the Windows PC to rip more music onto it? Thanks - sorry to be dense, just want to be sure of what I am doing. Really appreciate the help and advice! I am wondering if an alternate approach will work. Use Exact Audio Copy as you suggest on my PC but then share that folder using SAMBA so I don't have to plug and unplug the device. Thanks and regards!

[@DavidWatts]

You are right, you would keep the music on the SSD/HDD that you put in the USB. It would not add it to the SD card on the Pi. You can absolutely add a SAMBA share or other network share to Rune. I think it is under network sources. I suggest 'Exact Audio Copy' just because it is one that I have used in the past, lots of options available for backing up your CDs.

[@CandMe]

Hi David, well, after many hours of playing around and twiddling this setup, it appears that the RuneAudio is NOT compatible with the Raspberry 3B+ Sadly. It simply does not recognize the SD Card or image. So, anyone out htere who has the 3B+, save your time and maybe just write to Rune to update the image for compatability. I would however like to add that the video is great and really does a good job of guiding you through the steps of installing. Much appreciated.

[@DavidWatts]

Thanks buddy. It looks like someone has found a way of getting it to work. Sadly I don't have a 3B+ to test with - www.runeaudio.com/forum/rpi-3-b-t6393-10.html (There is a SD card image in the thread)

[@armelodie]

Think volumio works ok for the 3b+

[@charliejones3119]

Is there any way I could use rune audio on top of raspbien or a duel boot

[@qnavich]

i like it, I am thinking more about for a car application. use the ports for different gadgets. But for portable purposes seens like to much work to turn the hole thing in a tablet..fire tv 7 inch or something cheap, for audiophiles purposes is another story..

[@Hugatry]

Well done step-by-step guide. Should be easy to follow along. I was quite surprised when I ordered stuff from Reichelt. I had to double-check my address and shopping cart when I saw how cheap the shipping was (less than 10€ via UPS for 7kg parcel).

[@LordKamephis]

Where did you get the touchscreen so cheap? In germany it's 79 EUR at reichelt :(

[@retro-junkie5741]

Do you need to have a touchscreen or can we incorporate a USB controller?? Or even a Xin-Mo USB to Arcade stick/button setup? Would love to run this without a touchscreen... and go with a USB controller.. FTW!

[@DavidWatts]

As far as I know it does work with normal HID input like a keyboard or a controller. You can also use your phone. Essentially the interface is just a webpage.

[@MobileDecay]

Omg a tablet that can play music. That is so innovative! 🤪🤪🤪

[@CandMe]

I'm a little confused. You format your sd card and then burn the latest RuneAudio image to the card. Hence there is no system software anymore. RuneAudio does not supply a system as far as I recall or am I missing something here? According to your video, the Raspberry Pi 3B+ will run with the Runa image only. Can you confirm that? as it doesn't function for me according to your vescription. Thanks in advance.

[@DavidWatts]

Yes, the run audio image is the entire operating system. Essentially what rune audio provided is an operating system with the audio frontend.

[@leonard3k]

It would be helpful to see 20 albums on there with album art to see if this device is poor or slow at displaying content ... for example the ipod classic is fast at this chore but I don't like anything ipod. Looking at building something like this and storing 400 albums on it for play.... show us how this would work.....

[@DavidWatts]

Wow you have a lot of albums! I only own about 100. Works well for me but I don't use it every day anymore... the Spotify effect. I listen to radio a lot which I never looked into with the rune player.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

If you just use a tablet and forget that resistive clout screen then I should imagine this is an excellent solution!

[@liteglow2000]

And forget about the Pi, a Tablet have built in MP3 player.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

@@liteglow2000 Yeah but they sound awful. The Pi's audio is garbage but add a HifiBerry SPDIF hat and it'll drive external DACs beautifully. I use my R-Pi + HifiBerry to output to a £25,000 Audio Note DAC and it pisses on my VRDS CD player for quality while supporting 24bit audio with CD certainly cannot do.

[@gerardroszak9254]

David, I have a pi3 B+ and I can't get the rune audio image to boot. I have tried multiple images from the RUne site, with no luck. Can you make a recommendation on whihc image I might have the best results (boots clean)?

[@DavidWatts]

It looks like one of the beta releases lists 3B+ as compatible - www.runeaudio.com/forum/runeaudio-0-5-beta-for-all-raspberry-pi-models-t6532.html#p25819

[@fabiolasepalveda3948]

Also, (sorry for spamming), but instead of using an Ethernet cable, if i use an hdmi, will I be just fine and can continue to follow the tutorial or will I have to find a different method? Where did you download putty from also, if you don't mind me asking?

[@DavidWatts]

It you have a monitor, keyboard and mouse when you set it up you will not need to SSH into it. Setting it up like a desktop is far easier so go for it.

[@mattivirta]

and second, how if no have mini size shit 7" touch screen have only good computer 10" and 22" display.

[@networkunplugged]

it is rather an old video, i do still got now ideas to my similar project! thanx!

[@mattivirta]

how install runeaudio in need normal use raspi jessie and office etc other softwares and only sometime play musiv, ? vlc or what need use ?

[@mkspind3l]

runeaudio is a software for raspberry pi see here for other compatible devices www.runeaudio.com/certified-devices/ the rest of your sentence makes no sense not really sure what your asking

[@139peanuts]

Hi great video...can this be made using the HIFI DAC + Pro with analog audio outputs to connect to an amp

[@charliejones3119]

I need to get a touch screen but for now I'm going to use VNC not the best but better than nothing

[@1990notch]

Very slick little project there. Excellent presentation as well, easy to follow. Thanks!

[@marcdurose8683]

This video deserves much more than 5,500 views. You make a great, informative and professional video... Also a good clear voice for presenting!

[@DiyintheGhetto]

Hey david Maybe adding a Bluetooth Dongle so you can go fully wireless instead of using a 3.5mm cable maybe? For the audio i mean.

[@damnson9206]

The Pi has onboard bluetooth.

[@xj53pq7]

Bluetooth is a compression format. The point of the hifi berry is so you can play uncompressed hi quality music files through a home stereo.

[@MitchPT]

Guys!! Don't use host name it dint work for me use the iP. You can find via logging into your router

[@johnchevoskiv502]

Is it possible to make it work with a remote controller, like a remote TV or HI controller (not with the phone) ?

[@bobc3895]

You should use a separate low noise power supply for the HiFi Berry. It's best to use a normal supply for the Pi and the display and then a linear low noise supply for the HiFi Berry

[@HaimPeretz]

Do you have any recommendations?

[@tiagolucas8492]

I have to ask, How did you get the runeUI to work on the PI itself? I have looked online for days and can't get an answer! And all the other tutorials have you control runeaudio through a PC or a phone... I wanted to have runeUI to run on the pi like you have so i could make a makeshift hifi component, can you tell me what you did in more detail? You probably explained it well in the video, but i can't even get past the part where you format the partitions, i have 3 instead of 2 and always get an error :/ So: 1- could you tell me exactly what you did to make runeUI run on the pi itself instead of on a website? 2- if i ever get that to work, would it work with another screen instead of the official screen that you used? (this other screen would be touchable too, but would plug into the HDMI port instead of the display port) By the way, i am using a raspberry pi model B+, so that might be the problem... Anyway, thanks for the video, you got a subscriber!

[@DavidWatts]

Hi, I think it is likely because you are using a B+ (Great board still, I use one for most of my projects). The RPI2 and RPI3 RuneAudio image (OS) has the stuff for outputting the UI to a HDMI built-in and as far as I know the other images don't.

[@tiagolucas8492]

ah, that has to be it! so with a pi 2 or 3 the login screen goes away and gets in the UI? i might be getting a pi 3b soon, so thanks for replying, i was desperate to know why it didn't work for me!

[@rafsolo]

Just a note, there is now an official OS for the Raspberry Pi 3

[@theantithesis1]

Big Brother and the Holding Company!

[@ljsystems5694]

I like your relaxed voice ;)

[@secretatwsg]

They stole the program from Volumio

[@UhloMuhlo]

Fucking Sunday :D

[@afourtrackmind]

Your touchscreen is sketchy because you didn't properly seat the ribbon connector at the raspberry pi side. You shouldn't see any of the metal pads.

[@DavidWatts]

Thanks, I will check it out.

[@afourtrackmind]

+David Watts thanks for the video mate

[@fabiolasepalveda3948]

Hi! thank you so much for this tutorial, and i was wondering if i could ask you this question:I ordered a kit that comes with a micro sd card already with raspbian on it, and all I have to do is put it onto the pi (or install it). Do I nesscarily need to have a blank sd card in order for this project to work?And if not, do I simply just burn runeaudio to the micro sd card with raspbian on it?

[@DavidWatts]

You would wipe your SD card, with SDformatter - www.sdcard.org/downloads/formatter_4/ then put the RuneAudio image onto it with sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ or whatever image burning program you use. Then boot your Pi with the card and it takes care of the rest.

[@ronphilips8366]

Cant boot the raspberry P 2 v1.2 with any rune audio os. Tried to upgrade the os on a raspberry P1 with pacman sudo -Su it failed Need some advice

[@DavidWatts]

Hey Ron, I think the Pi2 and Pi1 have different RuneAudio releases due to the different processor on each board. Grab the Pi2 version here - www.runeaudio.com/download/ If you have already done that then I am sort of out of advice if RuneAudio is the only thing that doesn't work for you.

[@ronphilips8366]

i have done all that already

[@Someone-ci8wf]

I have 3 partitions on my sd card and when I delete one of them (tried every partition) it won't boot again.

[@dave7865]

remove and add p2 extended partition, then the same for p5 logical partition (LINUX) and reboot. worked for me

[@Someone-ci8wf]

***** thanks but I solved this problem a few weeks ago. Dunno how anymore. Now everything is working fine even though it was so damn hard getting everything to work

[@tim49013]

Hello I own a pie zero that has some games on and a 3.5 lcd touch screen I could I still do this without loosing my games ?

[@DavidWatts]

I would do that on a different SD card and swap it out when you want to play games.

[@tim49013]

David Watts thanks for the help

[@cyarks7468]

Pleas help me when i try to connect to the ssh with putty it shows an error: Unable to open connection to runeaudio Host does not exist! What can i do? Or what am I doing wrong?

[@DavidWatts]

Sounds like you will just need to get the IP address for the Pi on your network rather than the name. Sounds like you don't have network discovery on.

[@cyarks7468]

Sorry for the late anwser. And thanks for the solution now it works Thanks :D

[@masterfulbat1070]

Whenever I try doing the putty thing I says " unable to connect to runeaudio Host does not exist any idea on what's going on does the rune audio need to be a image file when I use win32

[@DavidWatts]

You, if 'bonjour' (network discovery) is not enabled you will need to use the ip address of your Pi.

[@masterfulbat1070]

oh ok thanks

[@axelt0w]

just a silly question but what do you call those cables u used to connect the dac to the touchscreen for power ? :)

[@DavidWatts]

The are called female dupont jumpers.

[@blackie5566]

Thank you David! Your video was very helpful. It urged me to do a couple of things: I had to purchase a Rasberry Pi and a copy of "The British IBM". I have learned so much from your video. Again many thanks! Peter

[@DavidWatts]

That's good to hear, thank you for the comment Peter. Enjoying The British IBM? Quite a nice story behind the music with them.

[@blackie5566]

Yes I defenitely enjoying them!!! :-)

[@icantanimate9869]

Hi, just wondering how I get it to do the \ uneaudio thing, because with mine it always messes up and asks for login credentials which I dont has :|

[@DavidWatts]

Try user: root - password: rune

[@icantanimate9869]

Ill give it a try, thanks for the quick reply :D

[@icantanimate9869]

Nah, sadly it didnt work :S it asks for my login but ive tryed my PC login aswell, because thats what it looks like it needs, I guess its just glitched XD thanks for the help anyway :D

[@cyarks7468]

Try with user root and password musicbox

[@cliffanthony1]

I wish I could be like David Watts

[@yoerim360]

pûtty doesn't work ... no device it says

[@yoerim360]

network connection ... connection timed out... damm, why sin't the sound card select just integrated instead of this shit work around??

[@MkmeOrg]

First! :) Nice one David

[@ArcadeCabNBud]

ill just buy a hifi haha

[@andriandrason1318]

Why not just use the bluetooth speaker with the phone? much more portable and a hell of a lot cheaper.

[@DavidWatts]

There are a lot of reasons but if you want portability then it isn't for you.

[@andriandrason1318]

You pointed out at 4:26, that the power bank and bluetooth speaker was for portability. Therefore i comment on, the not so portable part of this setup. plus the quality output still comes out of the LG music flow, hence it would be wiser to invest the capital in a greater High End portable speaker.

[@DavidWatts]

You are quite right, if portability is your main concern then you would approach it differently. As you probably saw I had a speaker and amp setup so the high definition audio from the DAC board on the RPI works well. It isn't cheap but it sounds good and the ability to control if from anywhere in the house is quite nice. Were I to do it again I would have picked a cheaper Pi and maybe even go without a screen (although I do love the screen)

[@rafaelmoran6777]

I have the same Pioneer stereo amplifier in my garage lmao sick

[@edenilsonteixeirapaschoa7835]

congratulations, this project run Spotify?

[@DavidWatts]

It can indeed, I don't have a spotify account but it is a feature of the RuneAudio software.

[@scottbrady6795]

Can you use wifi instead of an ethernet cable?

[@DavidWatts]

For normal connection yes, that is why I picked the RPi 3. I used ethernet to set up the Pi so I didn't have to plug a monitor and keyboard in.

[@scottbrady6795]

David Watts thanks! I've just managed to do this and it was surprisingly simple!

[@maartenschouren2327]

I don't mean to be negative but nearly 300 euros of parts to build a raspberry-powered mp3 player might be overdoing a bit. These are all off-the-shelf, reasonably expensive components which make it a bit out of reach for most hobbyists. Besides that it's not overly compelling watching you put in a few screws and copy an image onto an SD card. Sorry for the thumbs down :-(

[@DavidWatts]

No worries, thanks for explaining the thumbs down. Just in case you wanted to have a go, you can just use a Pi and remote control it from your phone. I just wanted to go all out.

[@ThePavezzi]

You could make one without user interface (the touchscreen) instead using your smartphone or computer to remotely control it over your home network , using the internal audio output (not very nice) or some USB sound card (better, possibly cheap). Then you'd be spending money for the Raspberry Pi, the sound card and the SD card, and you'd be not even hitting 100€ mark.

[@LordVictorHalgaard]

You won't be able to store much of anything on 128gb either... Need 2tb minimum.

[@judahluciano4655]

can it play FLAC?

[@DavidWatts]

It can play Crysis but yes it can play Flac

[@undeadwolf07]

Don't plug the ethernet cable back into the pi after connecting to wifi or it will be impossible to use wifi ever again. Also I uploaded an mp3 to the local storage folder, but it won't show up my playlist.

[@samilahidjako1795]

no intresting for HI-FI-..... even 192/24(16) quality its no HI-FI today

[@georghartmann6971]

too sad you did not use screws to fasten the DAC AND screen.... killed the project for me

[@mrvegas06]

Really using dac over bluetooth ?

[@udohansen4883]

wouldnt it be easier to use an old tablet or even a smartphone and just convert this system into an android or IOS-app. If you combine the total cost of a RPI-screen and an RPI, you end up spending at least 100dollars, or even more. If you buy an old android device from craigslist or ebay, pay a significantly lower amount of money. Additionally, you have an battery onboard, which makes this easier.

[@DavidWatts]

Do you just mean cheaper rather than easier? I think an old tablet would work well as an audio device to play your music library. Rune Audio is aimed at people who want a a fairly high spec (sorta like audiophiles, not that I am one) audio solution, accessible over a web interface with the ability to add hard drives worth of music or streamed over the web. The screen is not necessary, you can use a web interface to control it through your phone. I like the touchscreen on the Pi, it is nice to have the album art displayed, it also looks nice with my setup.

[@Boubson]

@@DavidWatts Plus the hifi berry DAC is far better than the one in your tablet