Runescapes Creator is making a new MMORPG

A video covering the Gower's brothers upcoming MMORPG, Brighter Shores. A game that has many resemblances of their legendary game: Runescape.
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[@lordbeerus462]

I can't wait to play Runescape while I play Runescape

[@xWildz]

Again?

[@RandomDropUp]

You can already do that doe.

[@ragincaucasian9209]

well good luck to him because the whole runescape 3 look was already a turnoff for me and just making the exact same looking thing but maybe i will at least give it a try

[@Fleato]

you havent been doing that this whole time?

[@scott4418]

If you're a fellow runescape veteran, then i think we owe it to the gowers of giving the new game a try 👍

[@sharkunit]

we dont own anything

[@lightblue8818]

​@@sharkunitowe means you have a debt or an obligation to repay someone in a fitting way. Since we all spent so much time on runescape, the first guy said we should atleast give the new game a try once it comes out. Runescape had the same creator back in the day.

[@iridescence51]

Nah.. we don’t owe shit. We already payed and played RS.

[@ronaldmcgrath1579]

You made a nice thought and these bunch of nerds just had to shit all over it. I agree - The Gowers have an insane amount of good will with the RS community.

[@ZDProds-c8p]

we don't owe anyone anything

[@jayfng]

trade locked behind membership is a smart idea to prevent botters and gold farmers flooding the market. game looks like its going to be worth trying out

[@benjaminj8642]

He's definitely done his due diligence, I think Runescape should have this feature too honestly.

[@PercivalKing]

@benjaminj8642 Runescape did have this feature, where you couldn't trade at all. That was mainly for all the scam trading and whatnot. That's where loaning items became thing.

[@ellescer]

@@benjaminj8642remember when they removed free trade?

[@Weltshmerz]

​@@PercivalKingYou're insane if you think that is even close to the same thing

[@PercivalKing]

@Weltshmerz lmao? Yeah, scaming players and flooding items into the marketplace, manipulation, etc.. Literally, you can buy Rs3 coins, which is RWT through ingame trading. So, yes, it was damn NEAR the same, bruh.

[@bladefearawksttm]

Meanwhile Zezima is sleeping in slumber in preparation to max the Brighter Shore on release

[@HenchPig]

That would be unreal 😂

[@10dru]

haha yes

[@devonwilliams2423]

Isn’t he a nurse?

[@PercivalKing]

I wonder what Runescape would of been had Andrew never sold it. That's what made RS so great back then, and meeting new people across the world in Varrock square. I look forward to this Brighter shores.

[@Kranon]

Probably this.

[@PercivalKing]

@Kranon definitely a possibility.

[@quantumjourney1]

Standing by the general store door and not letting anyone in/out

[@r0260064]

Isn't osrs kind of what it would have been?

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

I didn't know he sold it. Maybe that's why it died lol.

[@Unslain]

It gives off the vibe that Andrew regretted selling runescape off. To a very similar but smaller competitior. Really does give those vibes. Tbh their story telling was much better than we have now in runescape

[@trolltothebank]

In an interview I've seen he mentioned he didn't want to be CEO and in charge of everything- he naively (his words) assumed he'd still be able to provide direction (etc) to runescape, but realized once he sold it, he was out of the game

[@Snack_Foods]

@@trolltothebankthey in essence stole it out from under him and pushed him out in the end

[@plagmatics]

To my knowledge, the Gowers weren't the only ones who were responsible for RuneScape's amazing quest lore & all, 'cause up until sliske's endgame at least, the quests were gas and they weren't around for those anymore, were they? The reason why Extinction sucks ass is because they don't have those fire writers who'd worked on previous quests anymore, whose names I never even knew lol. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm quoting a friend when I say "they fired all the good writers"

[@Lead1121]

@@plagmaticsthey must have left or fired them. The quest team is not the same and the stories are lackluster at best nowadays

[@h3rpad3rpacifilis]

@Snack_Foods I have very little doubt that's actually what happened. They saw he was tired of managing, but was still keen to lead on the creative process, which of course was why they even made Runescape to begin with. They wanted to make a game they wanted to play, and tell stories they wanted to tell. I think they coaxed him out of his shares by assuring him he can still "direct/guide" which is a half truth. He CAN, but it doesn't mean they have to follow since he no longer holds majority.

[@GrumbleGombol]

"Kairo Knight" It's literally Cryoknight. CRYO. Like. Cold.

[@Korexx726]

Absolutely trying Brighter Shores out. You can tell Andrew regretted selling the game originally. And please remember, the Gower brothers created the game we love so much. The 3 brothers are here and they're gonna run it back.

[@naywils]

I hope the area's are bigger than what has been shown.

[@ixskill0z]

Reminds me of temple trekking lol

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

the areas look small as shit right?

[@falloutguy8566]

It’s just a teaser I’m sure they will be. These are the original RuneScape creators after all and they definitely didn’t let us down back in the day.

[@Gills420]

Oh man I've been waiting to say RUN ESCAPE! TO BRIGHTER SHORES!

[@HenchPig]

This looks awesome. I do however hope it’s much more accessible to casual players who don’t want to grind all day. I have a job, train Jiujitsu everyday, strength train 3x per week etc. On top of that still gotta spend time with my girlfriend but if I could just chill on this every couple days for a few hours and still have fun I’m all for it!

[@Krahamus]

It's already stated that it will be a less grindy game, maybe similar to rs3 or even less, also there will be offline limited activities which you can do, it will give less exp and loot but you will be getting resources for next day.

[@VedrakYT]

Cool I've always wanted to play as a Cairo Knight

[@warfighterarmy]

Player 2 player trading being (paywalled) is part of the extensive efforts his team is putting forth to combat botting and RWT!!

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

I'll only be playing if there is HCIM, otherwise i'll just stick to osrs

[@ZDProds-c8p]

@@OutlawStradegyGaming obviously there wont be HCIM. Its not RS. Grow up.

[@TheMitmiter]

@@OutlawStradegyGaming Just delete your account if it dies if that's how you want to play. You don't need an icon to play that way.

[@callen3570]

I imagine locking trading behind paid membership is to reduce the incentive to bot and by extension RWT.

[@iamrobbsmith]

Well.. I gave Andrew and bros my childhood and a chunk of my adult life. Suppose it’s only fitting to repeat the cycle.

[@iNotoriousAJ]

Cannot wait! Love the Gower Brothers and hope I enjoy it as much as I enjoy RS

[@Icemourne_]

Paid trading is not as bad as it sounds GW 2 has the same thing (you have to buy expansion) and pretty sure FF14 does to

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

idgaf about trading, im an ironman.

[@jacks2457]

I’ll most likely be moving to Brighter Shores, played RuneScape since 2001 it’s just not the same anymore ever since the Gowers left it just felt off, having maxed now I feel there’s nothing to do besides hoarding gp

[@Cahoooters]

I personally feel like this has alot of potential. Mr Gower did it once.. can he do it again? His unique though process and moral compass is wat led our game to success in the first place. I will certainly try it on release, it would be kind rude not to. side note, it kinda feels like the name is a middle finger to Runescape and i love that.

[@Equitine]

the only thing shown that i feel off about is the tile movement system only because the tiles are blatantly shown and it looks weird in some areas. also i wonder if both the tile base and area tiles might be that way for randomization in certain areas.

[@Typhoon_FGR4]

In the QA, Andrew said despite the tiles, the movement is not limited to a tick rate, so expect fluent movement that we haven’t experienced before. Something I look forward to seeing.

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

it looks like minecraft rs3. i dont know if i like it.

[@3runjosh]

to me the biggest difference between Brighter Shores and Runescape is the immersion. RS = vast areas to see vs BS = small rooms. It will be interesting to see how it plays out on release. Not many people like dungeoneering in RS and that is what Brighter Shores seems like so far.

[@kodykoesimo]

It does not matter, those of us who know, we will play it in its entirety, and support in any which way possible. The Gowers deserve a mountain of wealth and love.

[@Krahamus]

I agree i read some comments here saying the game looks like it's from 2009, gaming gone down hill, most modern gamers only seeing graphics and nothing more, graphics good but with dull gameplay cough cough anthem, order 1892, mass effect Andromeda and others, then they buy these games because of graphics and cry because game is broken, but still go around and complain about other games bad graphics even tho these games are good, brainless zombies we have now

[@zapfska7390]

Locking p2p trading behind a paywall s actually a genius way to deter bots

[@krejdloc]

Been playing since Feb 2001. The original RuneScape was a game for all types of players and playing styles. Todays game feels like it caters to the whims of the elite bossing crowd and doesnt leave paths for other types of playing styles or players. It looks like it may be time to quit members and use the free version of Runerape as a chat program to keep in touch with friends that remain.What will the elite gamers do when theres no one let to sell their drops to? GOWER POWER If I could reserve my present RuneScape player name right now I would PAY to do it.

[@jordanjanice1]

correct, as much as I have loved playing runescape in the past its just not the same game anymore and honestly hope it just gets deleted instead of seeing it in its sorry state, greed has ruined it completely

[@3runjosh]

Feb 01 for me too and I agree completely.

[@AesthMed]

Cant wait to try this! looks promising. I wish each instance was a little larger, but we havent actually seen real gameplay yet so maybe they do get bigger. Anyway, i'll give it a shot.

[@HenchPig]

I actually hope the classes are set and we can just have multiple character if we want to try new classes. Very much like wow!

[@keetahsanlee6629]

Brighter shores= the rs3 we all wanted

[@Krahamus]

Hell yah, i have been waiting for this since EOC came out

[@AnonymousUser-ss2qr]

I've saved 600k irl so I can buy gold for it and cheat. @@Krahamus

[@gamewithadam7235]

These guys perfected the F2P model.

[@aarons6935]

I hope it does well and has it's own story lines and god factions etc etc. Exciting stoof.

[@Vze3245]

locking trading behind membership is actually a very effective way to combat bots. they get your money and ban your account. good idea in my opinion. If the only way to get things from one account to another is by trading and you're unable to drop items this is a good thing

[@sitdowndusty]

They still pay for membership it’s too profitable to bot for them to worry about memberships

[@miyu545]

non player to player trading makes complete sense. Like big time. That way you remove free-to-play bots entirely. This is common sense.

[@GonthorianDX]

Made with all the creative talent and mind built from a lifelong history of adventure and game development, fully invested by themselves. No external factors ruining anything. This shows great promise!

[@ronaldmcgrath1579]

The Gowers are basically RS royalty - a symbol of everything lost in corporate greed with the development of RS. I expect it to be very popular with RS vets.

[@Krahamus]

I'm not really a vet, but I'm excited for this game, It looks unique with tiles and black background, I played osrs but it's such a grind but I enjoyed because has freedom what to do, in other hand i liked rs3 graphics and less grindy nature, but hated mtx, hope this game is taken best things from both versions and mixed together, with unique game style they have.

[@0x0rOSRS]

As someone whos been playing runescape since 2004 i will definitely be trying it out looks fun!

[@JoshuaMartin-ql5rt]

Paying for player to player trading sounds like a good idea to limit out of world trading and dealing with bots

[@azurika_78]

well, its just runescape, but with the critical element that runescape has been lacking for years now. an owner who cherishes it and wants to see it thrive, rather than just struggle to survive. fuck it, i'm in, rather give money to a guy who cares about his game than jagex.

[@cire420siuol]

Something weird going on with the "areas" and the way they connect to each other... They're all like little puzzle pieces with "connectors"... Are we going to be able to kinda re-arrange the map? At 3:42, for instance, there are 2 areas connected that don't look like they really should be based on the floor patterns... I'm interested...

[@plagmatics]

I read in an article that the areas are supposed to give this tabletop rpg vibe. I'm really curious how the game world is gonna come together too

[@Krahamus]

​@@plagmaticsGower's are big fans on D&D board games, so knowing this they are using this as a game mechanic, i mean for me personally i have no issues since it gives a charm to the game, since it's quite unique style, if game is addictive nobody will care, i remember when wow came out and everyone complain about cartoonist graphics, game for kids etc..

[@ChunkYony]

I wonder if the game will have something similar to skill mastery (99s) or if they will be a way to display those achievements. 🤔

[@falloutguy8566]

I mean it’s the gower brothers what do you think lol

[@adamantgamingstudios]

I think locking trading to paying members is actually a great way to reduce botters and gold farmers. It makes it so much riskier to do it for them.

[@Krahamus]

But what i think will happen bots will still be and after getting max f2p accounts they will sell them and make sub ones and bot on them

[@TheLaughingAlgorithm]

I think the passive is letting you know if you logout your activated passive will continue to timeout. Like a buff/aura on RuneScape.

[@gamewithadam7235]

Locking trading to membership will stop bots. I support it. F2P will last longer and be more fun if you can't trade and buy everything off the bat.

[@charliecoplestone9694]

I would imagine the 0.6s ticks system isn’t present also lol

[@BrianWoodruff-Jr]

Maybe it's a 0.3s tick system? Lol, hopefully there's not tick sytem.

[@cire420siuol]

@@BrianWoodruff-Jr There has to be a tick system... Even online shooters have a tickrate... They're just much higher (20-128 ticks per second or so depending on the game, instead of Runescape's 1.666 ticks per second)...

[@Weltshmerz]

​@@BrianWoodruff-Jrwhy not .1s tick

[@Calignos]

To me, the player to player trading being locked behind premium seems like a method to prevent botting, more than just greed. I don't agree with it personally, but I get why they'd come to that conclusion. I hope there is an Ironman mode in this game, looks super intriguing from what we've seen.

[@gamewithadam7235]

Passive mode while offline is fantastic.

[@XxTWMLxX]

RuneScape has a type of lock on f2p trading. You can't trade massive wealth back and forth without members. So I'm not at all annoyed with membership to trade.

[@terranin6241]

looking forward to it! see you all at launch

[@currentcommerce4774]

as an OSRS player, i get the skepticism for locking trading behind p2p & all the other kind of out there systems, but im open minded to a very different experience from runescape and glad to see andrew being experimentitive before a meta forms in his game, and if its dogshit they can just patch that later. really hoping they get more then just 3 combat styles out the box, and theres a good amount of focus on group gameplay

[@GamingTechReview]

Competition is what we need to force Jagex to do something and bring new content into the game. I hope this game succeeds and threatens jagex to lose its player base for the sake of saving RuneScape. They will have to compete with quality updates if they wanna keep making money.

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

yes.... competition.

[@veleonii]

This is where sailing went

[@GoldRocketGamers]

I'm optimistic about this game to be honest, not much to go on yet but I have high hopes. I think the leadership of the company and the dev team are the most important thing and this game seems to have a great foundation in that regard. I understand your concern about locking free to play from trading, but I think it might just be what is needed to stop RMT and bots.

[@johnspencer8982]

I swear if we dont finally get sailing 😮‍💨

[@StovnOG]

Who would have thought they could create RuneScape again but even less sky

[@XxJustinxx88]

Not going to lie I seen some of the different ways you could fish and wc along with other things Brighter Shores contains and I'm like why doesn't Rs already have these options? Lol.

[@i420xGaming]

Definitely looks interesting, dosnt seem to be as hardcore as runescape

[@jmel1000]

Locking trading behind a pass/membership, also locks out all the 12 yr old kids from trying to scam..I'm all for it.

[@musicmaker111]

I can’t wait to play this! RuneScape is long dead to me. I’m maxed on both old school and rs3 but haven’t played in a couple years due to all the nonsense. This looks so great!!

[@Lead1121]

100% trying it out but the square lit up world makes me nervous

[@falloutguy8566]

Not sure if you know this or not but that’s basically how RuneScape is…

[@stevenmcnaught3711]

Great video and hopefully it comes out for mobile then I can play it

[@regolith8173]

Interesting. Seems to have a lot in common with RuneScape

[@HFIHYHAGD]

If the premium pack is $5 a month like RS was when it came out, this game will succeed. Anything higher in terms of starting cost and I don’t think anyone will bother n today’s gaming age.

[@shadytree9001]

Now I'm hyped for brighter shores mobile in a couple years so I can play brighter shores while takin a shit xD

[@kyled00m]

I think locking player-to-player trading is the "Gower solution" to bots. They can perma-ban (or perma-delete) bot accounts and remove a 'trading cheater', and thus recouping a small, insignificant amount of money lost from RWT the bots do (by making bots need to be 'paying members' for EACH account (bot).😆🤣

[@bren2k5]

congested map, linear paths, visible grid... idk

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

i thought i was the only skeptical one...

[@bren2k5]

@@OutlawStradegyGaming people think it’s going to be what RuneScape should’ve been and it looks like they’re getting a modified version of a dungeon game or diablo. Of course ima try it, I like the art work but 10 years of dev work and these are the locations they showcase?

[@falloutguy8566]

You said Action Bar all the osrs bois checked out tick manipulation not an option it’s over.

[@notbob6922]

It basically has a built in bot which should reduce a lot of botting.

[@renemacao9349]

i love the trading feature on premium membership lol... it make people that want to play like irons not have to pay more. ofc im going for premium tho

[@Krahamus]

I think trading restriction is against people botting

[@6zozo]

Rs4 confirm 👀

[@BrighterShoresCentral]

I this this game could be the best MMORPG release in 2024.

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

more likely 2025

[@Goldenblade14]

I haven't touched runescape in months because the start of the year has not been great for even a casual player like myself. Im looking forward to the Gower reboot.

[@crazedmonk8u]

Im hyped for it, will be giving it a try. its ticking all the right boxes for me presentation wise, i love the art style and the Iso view, only thing im kinda miffed about is "custom engine, custom programming language" like oh boy here we go again, soon we will hear about "engine limitations" followed by "spaghetti code" all over again. I can look past the custom engine if it was based off an existing engine but modified like alot of UE games are, but using both a in shop engine AND your own language? just look at runescape as a perfect example where mods can't fix certain things because they just dont know how cause the person who made it left i.e invention machines, POH regarding the trading limitation, alot of mmos do it for their free trial, i.e. ff14 you cant use the AH as f2p mainly to curb bots/RWT. I think its a little heavy handed to lock f2p into basically ironman mode since they didnt indciate you can buy membership with in game currency so if lock payment methods to CC only. if some RMT operations are springing up, you can just block their payment cards. will it stop them? no but it will curb alot of the small fries

[@ReMarig00o]

As long as its not p2w like RS I will try it

[@mcharge10]

Can already tell I'm gonna be into it... a fresh start runescape-esque game, here we go again

[@jordanjanice1]

guess im leaving runescape for brighter shores, quite literally

[@22skyplane]

GE was members only at launch, maybe this is what the trading he mentioned.

[@taylorkirkland3529]

Like it or not, it's a great chance at some $$$

[@taylorkirkland3529]

I.e. Party hats

[@Jay-Rover]

Been a RS player on and off since 2001, im maxed, nothing special, but i might divert my time for this game

[@kriskolo]

I wonder how woox will break this game...

[@bosstweed83]

Betting that f2p can't trade to help the game monetize bots/alt accounts. Hoping for a big release/event around runefest weekend. Would be a great way to get the target audience engaged and generate buzz. CVC is probably pissed, lol.

[@carltonp420]

Looks like a stepped on bug 😂

[@GeorgeAlexanderTrebek]

Not too sure about this one yet, will need to wait and see! I will not lie though, the games visuals gives off major "Freemium" mobile game vibes. Also 5:39, Locking player to player trading Is a strange thing to do, unless you want to make money off it.. Also i imagine there is an economy if there is player trading so i can figure on launch there will be massive bot farms if the game is free. Locking player trading is like a strict way of doing runescape 3 free trade limit. AKA you can only RWT if you pay us first. :D

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

i'll only be playing if there is hcim. and yes, the game looks freemium af

[@lammy2140]

I mean, isn't RS freemium?

[@LTAT42069]

@ProtoxxGaming I bet the trading is locked behind a paywall to counter act RWT and Botting

[@Roushe2011]

If it's similar to rs Id love to play it

[@MrsMeatballs]

Can't wait for this

[@OutlawStradegyGaming]

the world areas look small and closed in... I don't like the idea of restrictive lands in my mmos.

[@thebakks2165]

can we get a new att/str/def combat guide after the ed3 nerf/ combat xp nerf

[@ProtoxxGaming]

I want to make it but i'm waiting for more low level mob rebalances lol. I don't want it to be outdated after I put work into creating it after only a month

[@TheSonicfanx1]

Tfw I need to complete Elemental Workshop 5 in another game.

[@iplayrunescape301]

I'm getting the board game!

[@MultiTcproduction]

Will it be on ps5

[@StarmanNL]

Seems interesting!

[@JordDontScape]

Ian is also working on it

[@CoverBrazilian]

Why is the world so clocked in tho? Looks cool, but I’m not a fan of how you can’t see an open world.

[@cryoniczz7073]

Bro it's cryo not Cairo😭 just see my username and you'll understand why I am upset

[@ProtoxxGaming]

Woops 💀😩

[@vainsilence]

WHERE IS MECHSCAPE!

[@wesleyh7945]

Username protoxx spawns on tutorial island with 99 merchant for sure.

[@RickDSanchez]

Locking trading is going to make rwt harder.

[@austinken1405]

Idk how I feel about this game. Doesn't really interest me seems like it'll be the opposite of what everyone is making it out to be.

[@EduardoGonzalez-du4yv]

I still have to complete RuneScape first

[@potato4dawin1]

Honestly I'm not a fan of the look. It's too gritty and detailed for a game with grid based movement. It's like painting a wagon like a futuristic car. It just makes an ugly wagon. Also with all that visual fluff for woodcutting what's it going to look like when the tree respawns? There's no point to all the fluff if it just poofs back. A lot looks like more thought was given to the visuals than to the mechanics but narratively the world is cool. I'll try it on release if it's not immediately receiving negative reviews

[@kintsugi3932]

not going to lie, everything i've seen about the game has looked underwhelming sadly. And nobody would even be talking about it if it wasn't a gower title.

[@3runjosh]

so true. to me it looks like a mobile version of the sims

[@Verdandi_P]

Would u like a side of runescape with your runescape?