Running a Heavy Iron Train with Underpowered Locomotives in Railroads Online!

Hey everyone back with Railroads Online! Today Hyce and I are delivering heavy iron to the freight depot in order to make some money! Unfortunately we still only have little engines so this might be quite the challenge...
Make sure to check out Hyce's channel: / @hyce777
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[@scottcrawley8029]

I live right next the Great Central Railway in the UK and it's great watching these videos because sometimes the whistles will sync up with the real steam trains outside. Really brings the video to life

[@benjaminbarratt-peacock2633]

Oh nice, another one from Leicestershire! It's a small world

[@DAKRACKEN123]

Finally we get to see a good old fashioned train robbery! The Hyce Heist that no one saw coming shows us what's really most valuable on the trains lol Great content as always :D

[@matthewcox7985]

The Hyce't! 😁

[@baldobandito1795]

In Set Up Running: The Life of a Pennsylvania Railroad Engineman, Oscar P. Orr used to work with his engine crew to skip a coal tipple. This tipple typically had a line as most engines happened to run low on coal at that point of the line. It also was one of the last stops before their final destination. Oscar hated having to wait in the line and figured out a solution. His fireman would inspect his coal drag and mark a hopper which had decent quality coal with chalk before setting off. Later, as they waited in a rip track for a passing train, Oscar would uncouple the engine from the train and run it back to the marked hopper. He, his fireman, and their brakemen would then shovel enough coal from the hopper to the tender to get their engine to their final destination before lashing their engine back up in time for the other train to pass. He was the envy of the other enginemen forced to wait for the tipple as he sped on by and got home early.

[@kill22zone77]

Love how we just sit here and wait for the videos to drop just so happens to be like around 4 in the morning for me

[@deathwishdrang1780]

Alot of fun here today folks, Kan and Hyce make yet another gold medal show, shades of The Great Locomotive Chase with Hyce as The General...question about telegraphs though, telegrams did cost money so maybe a small fee for "transmission" would eventually be appropriate, as to adding the infrastructure of a telegraph network that would add a lot to your server files, poles and wires rendering, strikes me as alot of extra demands on graphics and memory useage, I subscribe to the keep it simple theory myself

[@Dallen9]

If you've ever sent a money order then you have An idea what the cost to send a telegram was like. it would cost the railroad or telegram company a penny per transmission but cost the customer between $5-$25 a message. The cost to use the telegram system was more upfront cost than usage cost.

[@Alex_1A]

Here's a "Train facts with Hyce" segment idea: Power VS tractive effort.

[@lincolnhorton7663]

I hope you never end this series Kan. You guys are turning me into a train nerd! Relaxing, funny, educational. So good

[@alexpym8216]

I don't understand why the goat isnt used as the main engine.

[@Alexanderwing2]

Yes, they should be using the goat for the main engine but from what I know they want sign the engines

[@Sausketo]

Because thats less of a challenge and therefore less fun

[@TheIq2gamer]

So the answer is basically because they don’t want to. Traditionally, The GOAT was never designed for main engine service. It was used more as a helper engine and rail yard helper. Irl, it would never be used as a main engine except in exigent circumstances. Since Hyce and Khan are somewhat trying to maintain realism, they aren’t using The GOAT. Could they, yeah. Do they want to, no.

[@p3chv0gel22]

I think (but dont quote me on that) the Goat would (in real life) not be used, because it wasn't designed to carry a train over longer distances and would run slower than a train, that was designed for that. The Goat was designed to hurl around stupid amounts, but not necessary in a fast way In game i'd guess they don't want to

[@callumhardy5098]

I don’t know why they don’t just use a LNER class A4 and just pull everything at 100MPH.

[@WibleWobble]

its like a super bowl party whenever a new Grand Tour episode comes out around here

[@deathwishdrang1780]

yup, its fun all around here with Hyce and Kan, I find myself on more than one occasion talking back to them, or like at the smelter saying out loud "kan! You left the brakes on!!" as he went to back up and still i wonder if a bears gonna pop out of the woods some day and chase him around

[@WibleWobble]

@@deathwishdrang1780 i meant the show "The Grand Tour", but yeah these episodes are still fun to watch

[@NikkiTheViolist]

My headcanon is the teleporting is just when you radio at someone else to take over and then you switch to playing a different person who was waiting over there

[@ethanflemming9571]

And also that different person ( that you take over ) can also check and send a list of supplies that the facility needs through the telegraph office, without you hiking to the place.

[@CaptainMack28]

Love the interpsonal relationship you two have. Great entertainment.

[@Westman0071]

Maybe connect to the coal mine next? (i already saw Hyce's POV that's why)

[@Holy_Moley]

A loco shed for repairs could also give the opportunity to label or relabel locos or carriages.

[@mountainman0]

Hyce, gravity was rarely used to feed oil to the burner of the loco actually most oil burning locos used low pressure air (about 5 psi) in the tender oil tank which was sealed when running to push the oil to the burner where it was then mixed with either high pressure air or steam depending on design of burner to force the oil out of the nozzle into the firebox as the jet of flame. this is why all oil burning locos have a low thrumming noise when in operation. and this was how the fireman controlled the size of the fire when steam demand was low, cut back the oil and steam/air to reduce the flame until next time steam was required. versus adding green coal and closing the dampers as on coal fired locos

[@TheCatAliasTNT2k]

Did he put any intro in? Did I miss it? Would be funny, if he did put one in, but somewhere else, not at the start...

[@DanielCullen-yu5bt]

About Hyce's recurring nightmare theres something i believe is called the tetris effect where you think about something so much it starts to effect your brain.

[@1982jeepcj8]

Moving the industries opens up so many opportunities on the map we have, even changing the sawmill to the opposite side of the pond is huge.

[@scotmcpherson]

Bunker C (Short for Bunker Crude) is a refined fuel, its just a lower fraction and like Diesel is a compression ignition fuel rather than a sparked fuel. The same way Diesel is a lower fraction of petrol than gasoline is, and is also called Heating Oil. Heating oil is not a lower quality of Diesel. The only difference between Diesel and Heating Oil which taxes are paid on it. Bunker C is still quite fluid like diesel, it just burns more slowly the same way Diesel burns slower than gasoline. This also means you can compress it more therefore gaining more power from it when it combusts.

[@buckduane1991]

Anthracite coal comes from Colorado mine, aka hard coal. The coal ordered in from elsewhere had to have been soft coal or bituminous coal, hence the oily residue.

[@Bobis32]

it was probably sub-bituminous or lignite coal while anthracite and bituminous are dryer than lignite and sub-bituminous

[@ontdekkingszeiler1114]

an option for the telegram offices would be that you'd have to be in one before you can tp (for free i assume) and maybe payed tp for not being in a house

[@Toriva_Rize]

I feel like Bosco would have been a better name for the 48 Class, so then you would have Betsy & Bosco

[@easternkentuckyrcfun1061]

It's funny watching both of your videos back to back from different point of view

[@snowiersummer99]

I love your vids Kan, but I have a question. If a steam train gets a big enough run up or slope to build speed, can the train do a complete loop de loop or no? Could the train even handle it?

[@notbob555]

The hardest part would be making a reasonably smooth loop. Unless you mean in real life, in which case that would really depend on what size of engine.

[@Demonslayer20111]

The train? Yes. The track? No. But if you were able to build a strong enough track and get the train going fast enough, it would stick to the track no problem

[@BASTION1023]

Like the other said theoretically yes it’s possible. If we are talking steam engines irl then there is none that could complete a loop. Diesel or electric trains though could theoretically do it. But they would have to be going incredibly fast and the grade would have such a gradual increase and decrease that we are looking at a loop that’s almost as tall if not taller then the Empire State Building. It would also have to be only the engine unless it’s some sort of maglev. This is also assuming the tracks made out of something like vibramiam. At the speed needed (this is just a guess really) in the 200-300 mph range the track would go under serious stress. Anyway these are my thoughts. Take it with a grain of salt though cause I only know a tad bit about railroading

[@supersmashbghemming6445]

From my understanding, it's a no, because the boiler explodes if its at too much on an angle

[@atlas4733]

I feel like telegraphs are just calling another employee that's stationed at that location. You would realistically not leave a helper station empty for days at a time when the trains are needed. The Rio Grande wasn't run by 2 people.

[@deathofallthingspotato9919]

10:58 - the force on a train wheel is ALMOST sinusoidal, but not quite, as the rod is of finite length, meaning the middle of the strokes are closer together at one end than the other. This shouldn't make much difference in any realistic scenario, but it is the reason the rod is as long as possible on most locos.

[@ASOTFAN16]

People complaining about the warp is yet another case of it being a feature that you CAN use but don't HAVE to use

[@mwilliams1941]

I like the idea of the houses going up in price each time. Base price= X, price increase =Y, Number of other houses -1 = Z. (Z*Y)+X

[@kylehildebrant1947]

Look up Kinzu bridge state park in western PA. It’s an old train trestle that was just feet shorter than the Statue of Liberty, that fell over in a wind storm. Now it’s a state park but talk about some narrow gauge engineering.

[@Game_Blox9999]

If somebody already commented this, I'm not copying your comment. In Thomas and Friends, you know, the old model railway footage, they actually had coal hoppers and coal boxes, where you had to shovel tue coal into the tender/coal box. It's really interesting, but the show was based on the way the British Railway operated. That's why you see chain couplings instead of the knuckle joints you see on trains elsewhere.

[@galaxybrain1394]

Best series ever, keep it up

[@coreytaggart128]

Thank goodness you flashed the text I was assuming with the paths around and kAN playing with others that this would have been Zeepkist.

[@videomaker557]

love these

[@fainfawn7641]

When can we get a train podcast with Hyce teaching kan. Or even making this series accessible on podcast apps with just audio. I feel like that’d help me sleep

[@Vell1981]

The Warp is nice for people like me where none of my Friends are interested in playing this Game at all so i can warp to my switches and keep everything running.

[@FredFlintstoffel]

I am just unreasonably excited for these RRO Facts Casts.

[@jakereecito6039]

Honestly, what would make this series better is if they uploaded the save file and then we could watch these videos in the backround while riding the same tracks.

[@LoPhatKao]

about 29:30, if you switch right off the curve, there is a long flat valley that leads south and comes out near pass to oil & ironworks be perfect for a high speed run for Mosca or 2-8-0 plenty of room to have a switch coming from depot as well to make a wye

[@LunaliBrighteyes]

Fail exams, psh, my nightmares are getting to finals week and realizing I had one more class than I thought I did that semester. I finished school over a decade ago.

[@iokastosastraios8522]

I see you have begun Padawan Hyce's *train*ing!

[@Naomi_Boyd]

kAN should stream Choo-Choo Charles one of these days. It's only around a 3 hour game, and I bet his audience would get a kick out of it. It sticks with the whole train lover's theme while also being completely out of the box for a game on this channel. It would be perfect for a Halloween stream if Halloween wasn't 10 months away.

[@NevFTW]

My nightmares are always about losing something while in a rush. Object is different every time but yeah.

[@wage4598]

Hyce was even upset with kan over something that happened in his dream. Truly married couple talk

[@MrMattkid]

I figure if you guys want to do gravity tracks if you put at the very end an essentially quarter pipe, but not really, it would kill the momentum of the car's without the abrupt stop of a stopper. That way you just pull the pin and let it go, and as long as the track is perfectly straight you shouldn't have any problems till you reach the end. Where you'll need to stop the load because although the quarter pipe thing will bleed the momentum it will eventually reverse its direction.

[@archidonwarrior]

The Glenbrook's pistons look BEEFY! Can't wait to see it in the next video!

[@NSaw1]

Rails go for 250$ per car at the Freight Depot. Just ran one and barely got up the slope from the smelter with the Glenbrook and Betsy with 6 cars lol Got 1,500 for the one train

[@arconnelly5365]

You should get either the hiesler or shay locomotive

[@SuperXG]

Heck yeah 🎉!

[@N0V-A42]

Thank you for making your publishing times sync up somewhat.

[@isaacstout8911]

Yes

[@samurai_entertainment]

loving the rro lids kan

[@isaacstout8911]

More MORE!

[@Bobis32]

the oil coal you got is much more common than the Bituminous coal you get from mountains its called Lignite coal bituminous and anthracite coal are much dryer and burn much hotter anthacite is common from the Appalachian mountains and the Scottish Highlands(as they are the same mountain range) while the rocky mountains which are younger have bituminous coal while the plains have lignite coal

[@temmieAckkerman]

Betsy Noire: dreamin chu chu chu

[@LoveableLina]

It sounded like hyce said "Mama Zuma" lol

[@landonmckeen4221]

LoL funny intro kan gaming roasting hyce in railroad online?

[@186scott]

I am wondering if any wood burner stream trains have ran out of wood but as they had passenger carriages did they ever strip the carriages for the much needed wood

[@ScottaHemi440]

hay you guys had a clean episode! no derails!

[@Broken_ora]

LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOO

[@p3chv0gel22]

30:56 I thought Kan meant sell merch with "How's that working out for you? Ehh poorly"

[@daanbos5918]

I can watch ur vids on mute and still enjoy them because trains and nature

[@claytondrover74]

Depends on alot as far as the coal is concerned,... HCC or PCI and what the ash content of either or could all contribute to the soot clinging

[@sodbury6426]

These locos in RRo were fire tube boilers - yes? - when did water tube boilers get introduced to rail locos?

[@mountainman0]

short answer - never long answer - multiple different RR companies and loco builders experimented with watertube boilers but none every got into large scale production. see B&O george emerson or SR oliver bullied leader class or LNER sir nigel gresley W1 class. though most though were only watertube firebox designs and all generally failed due to poor durability when put into trial service. difficulty in keeping them water/steam tight due to the vibrations and movement (twisting/buffing forces) and constant heat cycling in use and draughting issues. a water tube boiler is best suited for continuous relatively fixed outputs ie think power station or ship boilers but a loco has constantly variable demands on steam, every time the driver opens or closes the throttle the draw on the boiler changed and because watertube boilers have very small internal capacities. ( they hold about 10% of the amount approximately of the equivalent firetube loco style boiler) the pressure would drop and so would the water level and so the water had to be replaced and pressure recovered by forcing the fire then as soon as the demand for steam is lowered as the train reaches the desired speed, the fire has to be reduced or steam is wasted by blowing off through the safety valves - not easy to do with a coal fire on a grate as used on most locos and even with oil burners the fireman had to be very aware of the state of the boiler to try to match fire and water feeds to the boiler this all causes heat cycling and would cause fatigue cracking as well as priming on some of the locos and also burning the tubes by poor circulation of water in the tubes

[@deltacx1059]

24:09 if be worried about running out of water alot more

[@maximum_moneyz]

Funny thing iron ore sells for more than actual raw iron

[@louwn]

finaly it's here now i can run both video's together

[@Saxquatch_]

This is a bit of a stupid idea but if u put a racing wing on a train would it stop it from falling off of the tracks so much

[@Alexanderwing2]

I like it

[@jasonmsmith2]

kAN, that music outro, lololol

[@spongycool6021]

kan what about instead of doing stuff off camera you should turn it into a timelapse to make it fun to watch keep up the series it's so good i love train espetualy train facts

[@schneemann4153]

17:48 No. Maybe make it 100$ if you play on ultra realistic. But this is not a competitiv game. Teleporting can stay like that. Atleast in Beta and as long the crashes stay

[@nathanielhill8156]

Better to make it cost money to build and free teleports or to make players install telegraph lines.

[@danielgamboa1200]

Hi!. Where can i find the spredsheet of tractive effort and tonnage?

[@Projekt_Nightmare]

ask the creators of the game to add a vehicle that isn't a train with a trailer that can hold water and wood if ya need water and wood

[@Skirakzalus]

Yeah, so you know the thing with the saw mill products where you get the same amount of money for a full cart of either beams or lumber, even though of one you pack twice the amount than the other? Not a thing for the smelter stuff, there it's all 25$ a piece.

[@camedeangamer1742]

I wish the raw iron could be 5 a car because it really looks like it could hold 5

[@michigandon]

Are you able to model other eras on this?

[@raptorworkshop6651]

Save up for big train

[@JK-888-OB]

Hey Hyce, please can you guys add a widget into the game so we can see whether a train we make will have enough power or not under various different loads and grades? I am still not sure how you calculate how much weight a train can carry despite hearing you reeling off some maths about it many times! So I just end up guessing and seeing what they can manage in-game :( Also how are you playing without winter snow? I'd love to know how to turn that off!

[@Nitehawk285]

I just started on this game and even after watching the videos still cannot get the track right lol i been on since yesterday restarted 3 times and still not connected to a industry properly, your layout looks amazing

[@LoPhatKao]

be glad you didn't play it last year, that was pure torture compared to new track lol tracklaying tips: while laying track, change the grid size to 1 (num 8) - helps in spacing, and changing angle try and build your curves with Circle mode (num 5), if you can't, use 4+6 to aim the endpoint of your track in the direction you want it to go (helps the spline) try to keep sections of track to about 100m, if you go too far it stops rendering and makes it hard to line up to make perfectly straight track, use circle mode with a curve of 0 when laying a switch, you can pick which end you are holding/connecting with by pressing num 2 or 8 when laying track, num 2 + 8 also adjust the inclination of the rail ( to go up or down hills) hope this helps🚂

[@Nitehawk285]

@@LoPhatKao cheers it helped mass i managed to connect the lumber and logging together and done a delivery just one section of track going into lumber mill on beams side i need correct as it cause derails. thanks for advice

[@raymarshall6721]

@@LoPhatKao Christ I played at launch. Nothing better than a few feet at a time and no smoothing outside of inching the track along at a small turn each piece 🤣

[@Matty12787]

21 'imperial tons' ? Tons are metric from what I was taught in school??

[@Daddy-ro2vs]

I already saw this video on another channel!

[@midasenshiva]

i bought the bundel with railroads online and american railroads but when i try to play american railroads my mouse doesn't work

[@legendsofthefantasyverse5832]

What happens if you charcoal? It’s a wood based coal so is it better, worse or in the middle?

[@ducewags]

@Legends of the Fantasy Verse A little know fact that an acid is created when wood or charcoal and coal are burt in the same fire box. The acid will eat everything in the fire box, and flue. The internet is full of things that talk about, and show what happens when it's done.

[@ERYK2109]

hear me out: how to get steam locomotives environmentally friendly: heat the boiler with an electrical heater

[@nathanielhill8156]

This actually happened, some standard gauge trains towards the end of steam had electric heater cores next to the firebox and the electric hookup from a trolley. The system was designed to lower the operational cost by reducing coal/oil usage. It did not become mainstream due to the cost of the heater and the lackluster fuel savings.

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

Fireless steam locomotives were built till dieselization and started around or about 1909

[@Adder6112]

Now who click baited better Hyce Or kAN

[@Alexanderwing2]

I click on KAN

[@bread0237]

👍Bread

[@dragoworrior1198]

Yes early squad

[@Trailmaker10]

HAMMOND!!!!!

[@markmcculfor6113]

Please ask Hyce how turntables actually worked in the old days! Giant metal ball bearings? How were they rotated?

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

Ah. The old turntable questions. Here's your answers: 1. The ones in RO are balanced on a center pivot which allows it to spin. 2. The locomotive must balance on the turntable just right or else it will be impossible or extremely hard to turn.

[@raymarshall6721]

Older styles were sometimes wheels on rail underneath the platform

[@ChampionR-vn1ib]

You probably won’t see this but day, one of commenting for big boy in railroads online

[@riparadis]

Can you get the cookie Mougle for you next engine

[@AtkataffTheAlpha]

All in good time. These episodes were pre-recorded.

[@charlestischer7538]

Hyce should buy road engines kan should buy helpers

[@railfansrailways7078]

When is it railroads online coming to console

[@DarthRevanPeaceIsALie]

Youtub Gods hear my comet!

[@xdashix_4828]

Maybe railroads online live

[@tree43781]

Hi kan

[@Nebulachadlazzar]

Is it possible to download your save file?

[@josephadam4897heyhihello]

Hey hi hello

[@Kulkkakuu]

wow im early

[@dinomansocks2691]

Hey kan what happened to a consistent streaming sqeudual

[@lebawsski]

I still don't know what game this is 😂😅

[@oriontherealironman]

Wait what game is this? I was listening but they never said. 😜