Meditation: Our Essential Nature Is Prior to Experience

[@zamoraobed]

I just bought A meditation on I Am and Being Myself. Overwhelmed with a realease of negative energy I cry every time I come across a real enlightened being. Because my being recognized the truth in his words mean more to me than everything I've been thought in the past. Eckhart introduced Rubert on a talk and both are the real deal people make no doubt about it. Spiritual masters exist and we have more pointers than the Buddha as Tolle puts it.

[@borkapajic4154]

🌈Thank Y😊u 🌺for sharing Rupert💖Being Aware of Our lnfinitely Unchanging Perfect B e i n g in the midst of E v e r y Experience🙏

[@mahvash2811]

Thank you so much Rupert for your kindness for the sharing such beautiful present with us

[@lilithschwarzermond7342]

A heavy pill to swallow, Rupert. Thanks a lot.

[@mariabentele7909]

OMG, I am in deep gratitude, 🙏 . Rupert is such a gift to this world. ✨💜✨

[@adunnou2075]

This is insane! I have no words for Rupert, he is on another level... never fails to amaze me, video after video. The way he puts things, the way he describes, the words he so carefully chooses. I dont know. Beyond anything Ive come across so far! Endlessly grafeful for this🙏🏻

[@neodein]

true true :) simply da best, this is the teacher to stick with...until there is no need for a teacher :D beautiful inspiration daily..

[@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq]

I think that Rupert don’t choose his words Rather his body-mind complex has been chosen by the one consciousness to express an eternal true

[@lilithschwarzermond7342]

True, adun nu! Same here.

[@lilithschwarzermond7342]

@@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq You nailed it, Jorge!

[@RobbeyT1]

If the world is a great thought in the mind of God, then why does God need to make creatures suffer? Everything suffers either from being eaten alive or dying in pain or old age. Many say that nature is cruel, and it is, so why does God want to perpetuate cruelty?

[@FernandaFerreira-eo6sp]

Thank you so much Rupert, for your generosity, making this transformational content available.

[@dr.susheelkhemariya8966]

Wahwah AhaAha wonderful Chamatkaric Vishmaypurma wonderful dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad

[@mayrobintamang]

i wrote down this whole meditation session in my notebook. I am reading it now......

[@MotoJitsu]

Robin Tamang please share

[@bjornstaffan9283]

Beautiful🍎

[@serhatsuvaroglu7034]

Another crystal clear meditation from Rupert. Thank you so much ♥️

[@JorgeRodriguez-nx5eq]

“How we see dictates what we see”. Amazing realization !!

[@alone15151]

I am both watching and involved in this manifestation. I have been aware of this since a very young age. Trouble is the part that is involved gets so stuck in emotions. It's gotten better since I'm older but it makes this life so painful. Vedanta and Rupert's talks have been so balancing assisting me to let go of the struggle and involvement.

[@matthewwilliamson2510]

So grateful 🙏❤️

[@gers19]

The best meditation I’ve ever heard.

[@sumanjoshi7902]

Rupert you are the blessing. You are the clarity.🙏🏿

[@ajitagrace5227]

Amazing ! 💓

[@eva9539]

god speaks to (me), conciousness speaks to conciousness. its only blessing.... thank you rupert

[@escalibird]

I m very thankfull for your knowing because you ve been able to explain me the qualities,of the real I and the meaning of emptiness You shapted with words something that can't be named and even contened. You always surprised me with the explorations .You help me a lot to understand myself in the awareness infinite sence of self

[@escalibird]

Your explorations are part of my daily meditations you first have done it for me .l send you muy gratitude.

[@escalibird]

Especially when you said that peace its ever present we dont need making any effort to achive peace its always in the backstage

[@centrino538]

Muy bien dicho

[@trevorm9520]

Another exquisitely insightful meditation session, continuing thanks for all of this! :)

[@ireneeriiter]

Again and again...thank you, thank you, thank you. Xxx

[@annesparfumyoga]

Thank You with Love 🌷

[@slowotokarka]

I listen to this meditations at night, with headphones, when I'm half asleep half awake, and this is doing something really good to my mind... It's wierd I know, since meditation is about being fully aware, not half asleep XD

[@johnmaynard3989]

Yes ..we over emphasize this waking state, and forget the two other states we already know:: waking, plus dream plus deep sleep. The stateless state is thus known as Turiya - simply the fourth (state). Thus Sri Ramana spoke of and pointed this out throughout his talks to devotees and questioners.

[@cedarraine7829]

Blessed Posting

[@mikewhisky9605]

Compares to the experience of being on water during complete stillness-makes sense of rising with coming and going as poignant as the flavors during my favorite food!

[@luisalbelda67]

Thank you!

[@johannboeing-messing979]

Thank you

[@lyncanale4628]

Wonderfully insightful. Thank you Rupert.

[@thecollageman3290]

Great work , from the Collage man @t

[@depressionbeard9882]

Sublime. Hope to see you in September ❤️

[@identitygone]

Nice one Rupes. 👍👌

[@SamayaKefaliGermain]

♥️🙏♥️

[@spiritlightpajic7299]

🌅 Yes ☺️, W h a t we s e e 👁️Depends on W h a t lS The S o u.r c e of our perception dualistic sense mind or The Pure Unconditioned Awareness 🌅Thank🐦Y☺️u🌺 Rupert for Being the transparency and sharing 💖 of The Spirit-ual 👁️Vision and Understanding 🙏 Namaste🌈

[@dr.susheelkhemariya8966]

Wahwah AhaAha dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad thanksgretitude dhanyabad dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Rupertspira dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Wahwah AhaAha dhanyabadDhanyabadDhanyabad Rupertspira

[@TheRichardmay1]

Get the book

[@MeetingInStillness]

❤🙏❤

[@bille77]

Is this supposed to be Steve Ass Bannon?

[@chrisjohnssolarcross]

i was given this a a sort of koan by mukti, adyashanti's wife, "prior", meditate on the feeling of "prior"

[@tchansensho4912]

"Méditation : notre nature essentielle est antérieure à l'expérience ".... Meditation: Our Essential Nature Is Prior to Experience.....

[@leoreis4514]

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[@integralsun]

How is this not just an exercise in a conceptual fashion to systematically disassociate awareness from its content? Starting from the outer world of sensory perception (gross) to finer and finer grades of mental content (subtle) until awareness alone is? This is what meditation is. But how can this process occur if the senses are not withdrawn (still hearing Rupert speak), still thinking to interpret what has been spoken, still outwardly focused anticipating the next instruction? Perhaps the only reason this meditation succeeds is because of the long pauses of silence between each utterance. The spoken words and the concepts that they convey are mere props when the real process of transcending is occurring in spite of the guide’s participation. This is not self inquiry, this is not contemplation, this is not concentration. This is guided meditation and is only as successful as to the degree that transcending is naturally occurring. Transcending is the experience of non duality. Transcendental Meditation systematically gives the experience of non duality. It does so in the same way this guided meditation does but without the guide and without the props to impede the inward dive of attention to pure subjectivity, pure awareness. I find this a bit ironic given Rupert’s characterization of self inquiry as the direct path to reaching the goal of non duality and meditation as a slower, so called progressive approach. But here he is returning to his early days of meditation. What goes around, comes around?

[@RobbeyT1]

If the world is a great thought in the mind of God, then why does God need to make creatures suffer? Everything suffers either from being eaten alive or dying in pain or old age. Many say that nature is cruel, and it is, so why does God want to perpetuate cruelty?

[@julianmai7199]

first

[@jamesgreenldn]

Julian Mai so what.. awareness is prior!

[@julianmai7199]

EL ATROCIDAD SARGONISTA 😂😂😂😂👍

[@robinaguenkel7534]

👍🇩🇪

[@michaeldanielson3098]

If awareness is empty and a void and experience is suffering shouldn't we all long for death?

[@curiosity_saved_the_cat]

40:50 "Experience can be seen to either veil it's reality or to shine with it's reality, depending on the view we take of it."

[@centrino538]

Experience is not suffering. Experience is just experience

[@nimim.markomikkila1673]

Some people suffer their life, but it does not mean experience is suffering; suffering is just on of many experiences:)

[@eyalorgad3915]

Indeed very beautiful and moving, particularly the ocean metaphor. But is it not a little too far removed from the traditional Advaita teaching taught by an Indian Swami monk at the Arsha Vidya Gurukulam? Is it on purpose that you don't mention the sacred texts from which all this wisdom is drawn, mainly the Upanishads? And when you say in the teaching that "you don't have … to cultivate these qualities through any effort or discipline of the mind" do you mean to say that non-dual awareness can be gained instantly? That full enlightenment is here and now by simply shifting attention from "the movie" to "the screen"? Is there no need for effort? No need for preparation? No need to cultivate habits of discrimination? No need to cultivate calmness of mind? And what about the lifelong struggle to remove the habit of looking for gratification in this world? You mention Ramana Maharshi. With him particularly, self realization was arrived at with great effort and suffering, not to say him being highly versed in the sacred texts. Are you not going too far?

[@curiosity_saved_the_cat]

Eyal Orgad "Is there no need for effort?" I believe in one of his other video's he talks about learning to play a musical instrument. Sometimes in order to master an instrument you need to relax certain muscles. Just like in order to see through the veil of the separate self, you need to 'relax' clinging to thoughts that sustain the idea of the separate self. Relaxation is not 'effort' in the conventional sense. In fact, prior to tension it was already there. But indeed, it's a shift of awareness.

[@eyalorgad3915]

These are the words of Ramana Maharshi himself: "3. What is the nature of Awareness? The nature of Awareness is existence-consciousness-bliss 4. When will the realization of the Self be gained? When the world which is what-is-seen has been removed, there will be realization of the Self which is the seer. 5. Will there not be realization of the Self even while the world is there (taken as real)? There will not be. 6. Why? The seer and the object seen are like the rope and the snake. Just as the knowledge of the rope which is the substrate will not arise unless the false knowledge of the illusory serpent goes, so the realization of the Self which is the substrate will not be gained unless the belief that the world is real is removed." (Nan Yar). This is a little different than Mr. Spira's "... to access this peace we do not need to manipulate our experience...." . Is what Mr. Spira's teachings propagate is a kind of a new religion wherein real peace, the ultimate cure to humanity's problems is available by a quick shift of attention? As another commentator has aptly said: "six seconds and feel my PTSD has lifted and I am free." What is not mentioned by Mr. Spira, and for his own reasons, is that to remove the need for gratification in objects, to remove "the belief that the world is real" is not an easy task, sometimes taking a lifelong and very arduous effort.

[@curiosity_saved_the_cat]

Eyal Orgad: I do not think Mr. Spira’s teachings is a new kind of religion. Nor do I see the difference between what Spira says about a shift of attention and the teachings of Ramana Maharshi. I think the difference is in the word ‘quick’. Coming back to the analogy of learning to play an instrument; in order to be a master in playing the piano, your shoulders, wrists and fingers have to be relaxed. When shoulders, wrists and fingers are tensed up, there’s no (or not enough) freedom to play obviously. Relaxing muscles is a simple shift in attention - simple as in, it’s not very complex and doesn’t require effort - however, this doesn’t mean it can be achieved quickly per se! If after a lifetime of tensing up shoulders (karma), they need to be relaxed, it might be percieved as quite a challenge to let it happen. Judging from my own experience, I find it helpful to compare the path to enlightenment with quiting an addiction. After 20 years of smoking, it’s not easy to just quit. However, all it really takes is insight - not willpower or force (or time, for that matter). For some (perhaps most), it takes a long time of suffering and seeing others suffer, to gather enough insight - so they can quit smoking in an instant. Anytime force, or effort is applied to see the true nature of the Self, another illusion is added to the illusion. The thought that time is required to ‘get there’ is a result of the same illusion. Enlightenment is always there behind the hypnotizing/addictive illusion. It’s the illusion that claims time is required to let the illusion go, so it can remain a little longer. Just one more cigarette and I’ll be calm enough to quit smoking. All of the above is my interpretation of the teachings I’ve come across, including those of Rupert Spira. So of course there’s the possibility I misunderstood.

[@rahulkulkarni536]

Eyal Orgad you have a point. There is a very important place for all sorts of spiritual practices and life of course being the biggest practice of all. It is important indeed to develop these qualities but I wouldn't dismiss Rupert entirely either as you actually don't need any qualities to recognise THAT here and now.. But then it's a meditation he's doing with the group! which is again a practice.. Practice probably won't give you anything you already have although it does take away a great deal of ignorance and toxicity but practice just makes a conducive place for the self knowledge to stick. Karma yoga is excellent. Dualistic bhakti is excellent. Adi shankaracharya never stopped worshipping his favorite deity Krishna. :)

[@eyalorgad3915]

" life of course being the biggest practice of all" - I like that.