Rural cellular internet NEW antenna tests!

I test panel antennas vs YAGI in this episode of our rural cellular internet series.
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[@digitaldan8223]

I have finished my internet upgrade thanks to Andrew's series, and my results are awesome! I was a happy T-Mobile Home Internet customer before the upgrade, but this new set-up is worth making some changes. I'm now using a NetBuddy Cudy 4G LTE Router (LT18) with a T-Mobile SIM ($39.95/mo unlimited data, no throttling ever). The Waveform 4x4 MIMO External Panel Antenna greatly increased my speeds from 40-70 Mbps to 150-200 Mbps download (yes, I actually hit 204.37 this morning) and 1-5 Mbps upload to 20-50 Mbps upload. Thanks to Google Earth, I know that my cell tower is exactly 3335 meters (2.07 miles) from my antenna. Google Earth is also a handy tool for getting your antenna aimed directly at the tower. Thanks for posting this series. I don't think I would have done this without watching it.

[@TKCL]

That's great to hear and amazing speeds, especially for the cheap monthly price. I'm very happy to hear stories like these and see people get usable internet for affordable prices. Take care!

[@cliffsalisbury7714]

How did you get a rate that low? Do you have a phone with them.

[@digitaldan8223]

@@cliffsalisbury7714 I canceled my T-Mobile Home Internet plan through T-Mobile and returned their router to them. It was $50 a month. The exact same service thru NetBuddy is $40 a month, but you are purchasing your own router from NetBuddy. The equipment costs will eventually pay for itself after a couple years. In my opinion, the ability to add an external antenna and the increase speeds were worth the equipment investment. I work in IT and now work remotely out of my home office, and the speed increase has made some noticeable improvements.

[@TKCL]

Cliff watch my series on routers, antennas and service. All links are in every video description. Point being buy your equipment and plans from 3rd parties and you get this awesome unlimited service AND expandable equipment.

[@cliffsalisbury7714]

@@digitaldan8223 Thanks for the information. Correct me if I am wrong but you are only using 4g, not five. I am closer to a tower and have Mint Mobile phone which comes off a local tower with in a mile. I have internet over the phone line and only get 15 down and 2 up and pay almost $70.00 a month for the internet.

[@haroldplaisance8653]

Thanks for the update. Watched many of your videos about the Internet earlier this year. We ended up going with T-Mobile in July with their Arcadyan gateway. It was good by itself over what we had with satellite, increased speeds from 5Mbps to 15Mbps down and 1Mbps to 5Mbps up. Closest tower is about 10 miles away. A few weeks after getting it, decided to give the Waveform MIMO 4x4 a try. We had a lot of rainy weather so wasn't able to put it up outside, so I mounted it in the attic. Blew my socks off when we started getting 50Mbps down and 15Mbps up and continual signal, not dropping when a cloud passes by. After a month, moved it outside to an old satellite dish pole that was about 6ft high next to the house. The roof here isn't conducive to mounting an antenna bracket. So, I got 2 3-ft extenders and mounted the MIMO 4x4 about twelve feet off the ground. Ran the cable through the same path they used a decade ago for the old Hughes Net. Now I'm flabbergasted at the speeds. I'm pushing close to 150Mbps down and 50Mbps up. We've lived here for 8 years in the country and never had anything like this. We get unlimited data on a plan that is 1/10th of what we paid before just for the Exede satellite Internet. We also canceled the Dish and switched over to a Roku setup and have more things to watch/stream than we did before and that was another $125+ we don't spend each month. So 4 months into this, the antenna has been paid for in the savings of things we have canceled. Thank you for starting these videos!

[@TKCL]

That's great to hear and amazing speeds! Happy for you

[@Notyou5556]

My tmobile tower is 5 miles away, will use the 4x4 mimo...thanks

[@gwlane5509]

WOW Andrew - you are doing good work sir for us rural folks! Thank you so much!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JesseHess]

Get yourself a small outdoor network junction box to house all the connections. Mount it to the pole right under the antenna. It will clean it up and look a lot better. It will also keep the connections from corroding as bad.

[@scottcardais3560]

I learned about cellular Internet through Andrew's video series. We've struggled with slow DSL service in the mountains of Western North Carolina for years. Frankly, I was skeptical about cellular Internet because I thought I'd have heard about it before. Fortunately, I decided to try it. I bought a 4G-only cellular modem and the flat panel antenna mentioned in this video. Our dl speed increased from an average with DSL service of 3-4 Mbps to about 60 Mbps. Upload increased from 0.5 (½ Mbps) to about 6 Mbps. These speeds have been relatively consistent, too.

[@TKCL]

Happy to hear you are getting better results and reliable internet.

[@pampilgrim2274]

Hi, Andrew! Finally, I am caught up. The shorts are entertaining. My beagle Franklin is napping beside my chair. Great content. You are very thorough. You are helping lots of people with your videos. See you Sunday at 5:00.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching, see you then.

[@Tripring2000]

Interesting results with the different antennas. It’s true as the seasons change that the leaf growth affects the cell coverage. Back in the old analog days, cell providers would have to go adjust the output level of the transmitters in the spring to make up for the signal absorption by the leaves and vegetation that were in the path of the coverage area, and then go back in the fall when the leaves all fell off of the trees and back the power output down. The new digital systems and frequencies used are not as negatively affected by the leaves and vegetation, but having a clear line of site path from the tower to the antenna will provide the best reliable service. We need to get you about 4 sections of Rohn 55G tower sections and build you a self supporting tower that you can attach all of the different antennas on at the same time to do more in-depth experiments with.

[@TKCL]

Interesting, now you've got me wondering what results will be like in a few months.

[@gwlane5509]

Hello - I'm in a rural foothills section of East TN. I've thought of setting up a tower to get the reach needed. I'm 2.5 miles away from nearest tower. Great suggestion, this Rohn55G tower is exactly what I'm looking for! I suppose I would need to rent a lift so I could properly erect the tower and mount the equipment, Yes? I've worked on lifts before in my IBEW days.

[@Tripring2000]

@@gwlane5509 The Rohn tower is fairly easy to erect. They make a special device called a Jin Pole that you use to raise each section into place. I built a 50 ft tower several years ago using the Rohn 25G and the longest part of the project was setting 1st section in a concrete base and waiting for it to harden. Did that one weekend and the next weekend me and a friend were able to erect the other 4 sections in a couple of hours and mount my antennas on the top. You could use a lift or small crane as well. The highest you can get with your antennas will greatly improve your efficiency in your system.

[@ryanzynda5114]

Awesome educational video. Keep up making great content.

[@RebekahTOUCHEDBYYARN]

Thank you for doing this with you on what you’re using for your Internet Andrew

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@jp34604]

. Yeah Andrew, you're so Sexy 🥰😍🤩😅🤣😂💋💋💋

[@ashley_engle]

11:10 - (paraphrase) "Wires hanging off the side of my house, I don't care ya'll, I need some internet" - no doubt!! That's gold 💕

[@austingreene8100]

Very helpful , In a similar predicament with rural living .

[@TKCL]

The struggle is real!

[@CTSpeedtests]

I have T-Mobile home internet in my house. Uses b66 LTE and n71 5G and delivers 350-400 download and 80-100 upload. No external antenna, just the stock device. Amazing!

[@TKCL]

It is amazing, you must be very near a tower.

[@CTSpeedtests]

@@TKCL It is very close, maybe 0.5 to 1 mile away, but there is almost nobody in my area. In the 3 towns that the tower reaches, the total population is around 1,000. Many people also use AT&T or Verizon due to them having better coverage in the area, giving the T-Mobile network almost 0 congestion.

[@-GameHacKeR-]

HYPE!

[@jp34604]

. Great catch 👌 👏 👍

[@Bamaoutdoors]

Been waiting on this video lol! I like this style antenna better and it seems to do pretty good. I'm really needing to get some security cameras up and running and of course some internet to watch the ball game lol. So I hope this will do the trick for me. Thanks!

[@TKCL]

I like this style too

[@Scotts_Status]

Absolutely love your content!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoy it

[@rongray4847]

Hi Andrew. Interesting, I wished I understood that stuff as well as you do. 🌞🇨🇦

[@TKCL]

Still learning myself

[@shanefairfield938]

Hmmmmm maybe mount and test an antenna on top of the future flagpole??? Hope all is well there folks.

[@TKCL]

Doing great! Thanks

[@curtisguilbot4080]

Thanks!

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much

[@billybrown1979]

like the video. is looking for good service what counts and saving money. be bless

[@mikerichard-FOPA3]

Andrew another great review I switched my Cel service over to T-Mobile from Verizon better price and coverage.

[@TKCL]

Starting to become a big player here.

[@bobart1790]

Great information.

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@williamtuttle5010]

Hello Andrew, I’ve enjoyed this video because I too have the same problems as you living in west central Florida. Would you be able to send me a check list of all the items I would need to have to be able to install a similar setup on my house? Bill

[@TKCL]

The antennas are listed in the video description and the link to Netbuddy for the routers. With this video being older, the router models have been upgraded. I'm not sure what they have in stock at the moment.

[@Gussiscool]

If I were to buy this internet and antenna set up. Are there any more components I need to conect the router and the internet together? Booster or other equipment? Or do I just plug the antenna cables directly into the bunny ear ports on the router itself?

[@TKCL]

Nothing else needed, both plug together.

[@TheronGBurrough]

Great video series! I've become a regular.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@eastwoodrmc1995]

Your 4x4 MIMOs are on the should have been swapped from all of the info I have seen online. Could have moved the setup on the right over to the left and been good to go. I may try out a flat panel on my next setup, definitely an easier install.

[@Shutite]

What you are taking down is not called a Yagi. The antenna itself is called a Log-Periodic Dipole Array (LPDA) - Having the two antennas on the same mast rotated in opposing directions is called Cross-polarized.

[@brianpederson7315]

With over 20 years experience as a paid professional who does work in a parallel cellular market, I'll tell you the same thing I tell all my field techs; speed tests are NOT the "final word" in a successful install! Consistency is significantly more important than some "highest speed" that you happened to randomly hit. The number of active users on a cell tower is completely random. The less the tower is used, the more speed is available to YOU. The more connections it has to juggle the slower the overall speed you will see. Test at 2am if you want to see what a system is actually capable of. When it comes to antenna arrays, there are more reasons than just antenna gain to consider. My 2 cents, you want the highest gain(I've installed antennas that were over 4ft long) reasonable. High gain not only provides your wireless gear with the best signal level, it should also give you natural "selectivity". Think of the gain on antennas like the zoom on a camera, when you go from 3dbi(wide angle lens) to 17dbi (8x Zoom). Don't overlook the "Front to Back Ratio". Yagi antennas (panels typically less so) have a large "back lobe". In other words, it has eyes in the back of its head. The higher the front to back ratio, the less the lobe on the "back" of the antenna will introduce unwanted signal (noise). Also, If you happen to be in the unlucky situation where 6 cell towers are all hitting you at once, you need to mount you antenna in a manner to "naturally" block the 5 unwanted towers. How? That's completely building dependent. I've seen antennas mounted in the bottom of metal garbage cans to shield it from everything except where it was pointed.

[@soggyburrito922]

I think this is the problem I am having at my home... We are sort of sandwiched in between three towers which at first I assumed to be a good thing. I am using a Mofi 4500 router with verizon service and have two vertical Yagi antennas on the side of the house pointed right at the tower (Its within eyesight, about 1km away from the home) and the best speed I can get is 20mbps or so, around 7-10 on average. Any tips for me?

[@ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr]

"Test at 2am if you want to see what a system is actually capable of. " EXACTLY! 2am, very respectable, but then come around 3pm-6pm the speeds drop so bad, I almost feel like I am on a dial-up connection with packet loss ruining my internet fairly sever.

[@JasonsLabVideos]

Good video !

[@3169him]

I have an extra cell phone wonder if I can use the sims card from it in the router or do I need a different one

[@TKCL]

You'd have to contact Netbuddy to know for sure.

[@skycopters]

Hi Andrew are you leaning toward a final setup yet that's works best for your area?

[@TKCL]

Sticking with what you see in this video. But I might be testing another router or two. Nothing finalized just yet.

[@toddwarner5048]

So sort of off topic. My driveway is quite long. I have a gate at end of my driveway I would like to add a camera to. How can I extend wifi signal a good distance away. Probably 300-400ft?

[@TKCL]

This is exactly what I use, solar powered and uses a cell Sim. kzbin.info/www/bejne/goTWaX2Da9ySbdE

[@toddwarner5048]

Thank you so much for the speedy reply!!

[@Robert-Wilson]

Didn’t see the links for what you used for tower location. Unfortunately I can’t put antennas out side do to living in apartment but would be nice to know which wall is faces the tower so I can maybe do a indoor booster.

[@TKCL]

Yikes, I did forget that. Thanks

[@jarrellestes1793]

Link & over view of antenna needs from a understanding DIY viewer. THANKS

[@rickzambo9070]

I was waiting for star link just like you. I was told to ask for the mobile star link and got it in hand in 4 days. Hope this helps

[@TKCL]

I am aware of it, I just couldn't justify the price increase and that's also with deprioritized service.

[@nwflboy007powell8]

Hey Andrew! Thank you for what you do and we enjoy the content. What about the combination of all the antennas?

[@TKCL]

Only 4 inputs, no way to amplify 8 inputs that I am aware of.

[@darren1723]

Maybe with splitters tie all 4 line with tee

[@wowzers9525]

Did your signal strength improve when switching from the yagis to the panel? I'm also in a rural area of Florida, noticed we test against the same Dedipath server. Always on the lookout for ways to improve signal strength and reliability!

[@TKCL]

It's actually dropped a little. The panel antenna sure looks better.

[@morganmclaurin5865]

Is this for better phone signal & internet signal

[@TKCL]

This is for internet.

[@Bleys1973]

The shadow of the smaller antennas look like log periodic antennas.

[@TKCL]

Yes, they have a lot of names.

[@planetimagine]

Great videos man. I have been watching your videos and many others because I am in a rural area and my internet is becoming a nightmare for me and my family. I am in Florida as well . I like the results you are getting and I would like to see if you heard of the Yeacomm 5G Modem WiFi-6 AX3600 Router.

[@TKCL]

I have not heard of that particular router, there are a lot of brands out there. From personal experience, find the plan you want first and then get the router that works with that plan.

[@planetimagine]

@@TKCL I saw a couple of KZbinrs talking about it and they are achieving very optimal results. It is a very expensive unit though but could be very helpful to many people. I hope to see you try it one day.

[@migueldominguez1931]

@@planetimagine cudy 5G same wifi 6

[@garyhorn1133]

Hey Andrew, came across your channel and enjoy your content. I live in a heavily wooded area in the country in Indiana. I currently have a Chester Cheetah 5G 4x4 mimo cellular router connected to an Eero mesh system. I get a weak 5G signal with the supplied paddle antennas and a strong 4G LTE signal. My downloads vary greatly so I'm interested in getting the Waveform 4x4 Panel. I currently have their 2x2 Mimo Panel antenna in the attic. Do you think connecting this to the Cheetah router will help improve signal strength until I upgrade to the 4x4 Mimo antenna? Also, when mounting outside hou did you seal the opening through which the cables entered the house? Thanks Bud

[@dalepellerin]

Thank for the awesome videos. Got a remote cabin in the Rockies (right by the famous ‘Dream Stream’) with no internet. Just ordered Netbuddy’s best router with T-Mobile plan. I show up on the edge of ATT and Tmobiles coverage map so we will see but I figure if T-Mobile doesn’t work, I can cancel and move to ATT. $500 is pricey but I’m going to try it without external antennas first to see what I get. Work zoom video calls is what I need most to be able to do. Might try this antenna if I need more speed. I’m at 9000ft of elevation so the aerodynamic nature of this antenna would work better in wind. Thanks so much for all the guidance!

[@TKCL]

I hope it works for you, those external antennas make a huge difference.

[@radmilamiljanic5977]

I recommended you to Jason from Saw the Land channel, he's having problems with rural internet:)))

[@TKCL]

No problem, I'll help him if I can.

[@mrsully6003]

Great video. Have you had any experience with the 2x2 version of this product?

[@TKCL]

Yes I own one and it works very well, that's what I had up before I went to a router that would take 4x4.

[@cobra2187]

I have the Cudy LT 18 and right now running a $35 directional one line down in the MAIN CELLULAR post on the router/modem. Would this setup require me to take off all 4 of the little black antennas on the back to get the better gain/service?

[@TKCL]

Yes that would be what you need to do on a 4x4 router to get the best signal possible.

[@triplemikes]

Great video's!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoy the content

[@swolf101]

I just got the t-mobile internet. Way better than Hughes net. I get 29 down and 28 up and 40 latency. Do you think i can get better speeds with net buddy system. I talk to t-mobile support about data caps and being throttled . They say there’s no data caps ,everything unlimited.if i keep t-mobile I’m planing on adding the mimo 4x4 panel.

[@TKCL]

Tmobile is releasing a unit that you can add antennas, that's what you need to be asking them about. A 4x4 antenna on their new hub would be awesome.

[@stevensaxon8888]

Andrew tmobile website address finder says it not available for me. But there coverage maps shows it does.

[@hachimachi808]

He uses a different provider that resales T-Mobile service, it’s not directly through tmo. He has the link in his other video with the new router and plans.

[@TKCL]

That's exactly the problem I had, the 3rd party provider I'm now using does not care about your address and will ship whatever plan you request. I'm very happy I chose T mobile, it works well here even though there website said not available.

[@wildwestweddings]

Did you have to purchase extra cables for when you purchased the waveform 4x4 panel. I feel I I will need extra length to reach where i want to mount the panel antenna? If you read and reply to this I appreciate it in advance. I purchased the router through NetBuddy and its working great so far.

[@TKCL]

No I was able to setup for the 30ft cables. They do sell longer ones, but I've always been told that makes a difference on signal strength. Stay as short as possible.

[@tfisadog5260]

I am working on my upgrade Did you stay with the panel antenna or go back to the YAGI. I am in the tree situation and the directional towers are not pointed toward me but I am hoping I can get the signal. Really do enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot. Wish you hadn't put up that chicken house video the wife saw it and it is on her my todo list.

[@TKCL]

I stayed with the panel antenna, it just looks better. Get on that Coop! 🤣

[@Deytonn]

tried to get the unlimited service through net buddies, the are "sold out" really disappointed and hopefully i can get a hold on it soon (already oredered my lte router and antenna)

[@TKCL]

They've got a lot of business lately and supply is definitely limited on just about everything. They will get them back in stock, keep checking.

[@ladnel]

Ok so I don’t know if I am just an idiot or cellmapper doesn’t work for me. It seems to be covered with ads. I am trying to find a solution for my mother who lives in Rural Louisiana and will need a booster for both cell phone usage and wifi. She uses Verizon for cell service and they just changed directions on the antenna’s on their tower and now her cell phone reception is horrible as well. I live near Dallas so I can’t use my locator. Any suggestions? Thanks ,Nelson

[@TKCL]

Bare with me, recorded an episode today and showed how to properly use cellmapper.net. I'll release as soon as I can, a lot of editing and commitments this week.

[@toddwarner5048]

Which antenna would you recommend for my application? I am approximately 7 miles straight line from the nearest cell tower with hills and tons of vegetation obstruction.

[@TKCL]

Probably the panel antenna due to all the obstructions

[@justintanti1451]

hi Andrew and Tiffany my download mbps 54.77 and up land mbps 18.70 in Australia

[@TKCL]

That's decent take care of most needs.

[@phillipdanielmcguire]

So the antenna cables hook up to the 4g/5g terminals or the 2ghz5ghz

[@TKCL]

4g 5g terminals only

[@nicksimpson732]

Whats your average ping? How far from the nearest tower are you?

[@TKCL]

Latency is usually around 50 for the idle and varies between 100-150 on the upload and download. Tower in that video was about 3 miles through heavy woods. I have another one about a mile away, but it's not aimed towards me and the signal can be even worse at times.

[@nicksimpson732]

@The Kelley's Country Life would you say the antenna is worth the $400?

[@TKCL]

It made a huge difference for me and was a must have. Your situation might be different.

[@jk-nf6fk]

Hi Andrew , I received my panel antennae today and was wondering if you could share some guidance on how you hooked up the cables from the antennae to the netbuddy router since the router isn't numbered?

[@TKCL]

The cables are labeled 1234 and so were the antennas frome what I remembered. I started from left to right on the backside of the router doing 1234 hookups. I hope that makes sense. I tried a couple of combos and got similar results.

[@jk-nf6fk]

@@TKCL Yes that helps a lot. Thank you!

[@AlexanderHayward88]

In the UK we have a network called smarty it's £20 a month for unlimited and most places average Internet speed is 280mbps down and 140mbps up

[@TKCL]

Horrible internet options here.

[@cale583]

@@TKCL Yeah but Uk is a complete pile of dung. Id rather shell out a few more dollars and hardware any day

[@daltoncobbs160]

Y’all forgive me, I’m not well informed on the correct terminology… Im not sure if I’m just bad at finding information or not putting in enough effort, but I’ve had a hard time understanding the plan options available to me. I am in a very similar situation and I currently have a netgear nighthawk 6 that picks up my cell signal. Is it possible for me to purchase one of these antennas and connect it to a 3rd party router? And can this router use the same SIM card that is currently in my net gear device? I’m very confused and to what technology is compatible with the current provider and data plan that I have (AT&T) and the compatibility between devices. I can’t seem to figure out a good solution…

[@TKCL]

The problem is if your new router has software that can be configured to recognize the current Sim and IMEI number you have. Not all routers allow this, thus the reason it's better to buy a router and Sim combo from the same seller.

[@jamesblanton3744]

I live in town in Mayo do you think an outdoor Antenna would be needed I’m getting tired of windstream

[@TKCL]

No idea, depends on your tower location and signal strength. You can always start with a router and then add antennas if necessary.

[@jp34604]

. What is your cell service like on a phone in the house?

[@dgsolar1]

With this setup can you connect your cellphone to it so you can talk via wifi? I can connect my verizon cellphone to talk over my cable router when I'm at home.

[@TKCL]

Sure, it's wifi internet the same as any other router.

[@Cristo_Mario]

hey ,thanks for a great video - I just came across your channel today :( I've got some serious connection issues - there is nothing available where I live (out rural) I do have access to the net via my phone as there is tower about 6km away. What I do at the moment is hotspot via USB from my phone - give me an "amazing" 5.45mbps download and 0.75 upload (can you feel the pain?!) What router can you suggest where I can simply swap the sim out of my phone into the router and use this new antenna?

[@TKCL]

I have not personally tested routers that will allow the swap of a phone sim. Can't help you there.

[@thomashowes1973]

Hey man, I know how particular you are about things... my wife noticed the white dot next to the light switch on the wall. She noticed it and will not stop mentioning it. I really don't care about it but she won't shut up about it. Just thought I would share.

[@TKCL]

I'm assuming your talking about some paint nicks? I don't plan to touch up paint and caulk until I'm done with all projects. Too many more opportunities for damage to happen.

[@thomashowes1973]

@@TKCL ... as a man I totally understand and agree. Love your videos and content. I plan on getting cellular internet soon. Thanks for sharing your experience with it.

[@RobertKohut]

What is the max up and down speeds in the best of conditions. I never realized cell systems had such high speeds... 🙂

[@TKCL]

In 4g LTE I believe it's somewhere in the 600 mpbs download. Crazy fast!

[@RobertKohut]

@@TKCL Wow, never knew that... 🙂

[@jp34604]

. LTE CAT20 Up to a maximum of, 4.14 Gbps down 660 Mbps up . LTE Cat18 Up to a maximum of, 1.2 Gbps down 211 Mbps up . LTE CAT16 Up to a maximum of, 1 Gbps down 100 Mbps up . LTE CAT12 Up to a maximum of, 600 Mbps down 150 Mbps up .

[@fernandoandrade5664]

What do you think about internet starlink?

[@TKCL]

Could never get it, stayed on the wait list for over a year and kept getting delay notices. I think it's a good concept, but still early in the rollout stages and experiencing problems as a result. My internet costs about a third of Starlink plans.

[@fretbuzzly]

You'll know if you get 5G. With T-Mobile 5G I consistently get 600+ Mbps down 50 Mbps up on my mobile phone. Also, the speed test server has a big impact on the speeds you are seeing. Speeds can vary widely between servers. On my gigabit service, I'll see anywhere from 150 Mbps to 900+ Mbps depending on the server selected.

[@TKCL]

I'm not close enough to tower for 5g, but I'm still very happy with the service I'm getting over 4g LTE.

[@jessefields4249]

Netbuddy is sold out of routers with sim cards, is there another company with these same options?

[@TKCL]

They usually get them back in stock quickly,keep checking. No one has been able to compete with their $39.99 a month T mobile.

[@TKCL]

I reached out to them for info. Drop me a comment again in a day or two and I'll let you know what I find out.

[@bran3209]

What about data caps

[@TKCL]

Website claims unlimited, I've been running this plan for almost a year and I've experienced no caps.

[@ronnyb730]

So, i looked up cell mapper and need assistance on how to pick the best one.

[@TKCL]

Top left corner of the screen select the USA and then chose the provider you are wanting to search for. Click on the map and find your location. Zoom around to all the dots (towers) and clock on each. A box it triangle will come up shaded showing the area the tower is covering.

[@ronnyb730]

@@TKCL my tower is 143782. It shows different azmiths, are these different towers? Only one shows 9mbs not the rest. Oh, good morning. Don't mean to be aggravating this early.

[@ronnyb730]

@@TKCL i did all that, but there's 5 different #s all with different info. All with a different direction to aim at. How do i choose which one.

[@TKCL]

Chose the one that shows shaded coverage over your house. Towers are directional and usually setup for different areas. Don't worry about the rest of the information. Your trying to find the carrier that covers your location.

[@BensonLedbetter]

I havethe WaveForm 4x4 with the NetBuddy 5G router, which appears to be a bit different than yours (my 4G/5G connections are on the sides as opposed to the back). The issue I've run into is the order the cables are connected to the router has a SIGNIFICANT impact on speeds. Have you experienced this? I've contacted NetBuddy about this and they have not been helpful, simply telling me to connect my external antenna to the 4G/5G connections.

[@TKCL]

You have the newer router it sounds like. I have experienced speed changes with cable swaps. The waveform cables are labeled 1,2,3,4 and on my router I started from left to right looking at the rear of the router connecting 1-4 cables. Play around with the combination and write down the best combo.

[@JustusTurner-y6s]

134 is just fine for gaming

[@TKCL]

Good to know

[@llg1]

How do storms affect your internet?

[@TKCL]

I've tested once in a very heavy downpour, I did see a decrease in speeds. It was still very usable.

[@oldschoollew68]

Hey brother I need some serious help with home WiFi..I live in the mountains of Georgia and I do have dsl here but it stucks big time….I have 1 bar of mobile service which sucks big time.. my question is which is the cheapest and best mobile WiFi I can purchase for my home thanks

[@TKCL]

That's an impossible question as there are more routers than I could ever test. I will tell you that in my limited experience a cheaper router usually is a slower router and has less capable wifi range too. The cuddy LT18 is probably as cheap as I would go for a cellular router. You first need to use a program like cellmapper.net to see what tower is covering your exact location. You will need to select AT&T, then Verizon and T mobile on the top left drop down menu for United States. You then zoom into your location and click on the dots (towers) to see what one is covering your area. Then go to Netbuddy and pick out a plan and router, here is there link netbuddy.co/?ref=12916

[@ahardb0dy]

Don’t know how your getting such a high upload speed. I can go near my nearest tower and on 5 G I’ll get a DL speed near 600 and upload will be around 32

[@TKCL]

Me either, but it's absolutely accurate. I can upload my social media content very fast.

[@robertmalis4493]

Hey Andrew I get really crappy cell phone signal I’m not looking to upload or download just looking I guess would be a cell phone booster antenna so I get better cell phone service do any of these companies offer that

[@TKCL]

I've got a couple of videos for cell boosters. I suggest anything from Weboost or Hiboost.

[@flotron]

Buy a 5g CPE. You lose a lot of gain with RF cable run

[@genghischuan4886]

why cant you use both? Im ignorant in this just wondering why you couldnt use both systems that interpret and combine

[@TKCL]

No, you only get 4 inputs, no way to power 8 antennas.

[@genghischuan4886]

@@TKCL such a shame they dont make a combiner for these. I wish I had the tech know how.

[@TruePerfectInsanity]

Pepwave makes 8x (cell) modem-routers that fully use all 8, but for 5G. ($$$$) It won’t help with 4G unfortunately. And, you won’t find the same savings on plan price as mentioned here. That’s one of the biggest challenges. Working through my system design now (for mobile application) and endless trade offs.

[@TKCL]

Ive looked into Pepwaves equipment, some of the best made. But not practical cost wise for the average home user.

[@TruePerfectInsanity]

@@TKCL Thanks for the reply and for putting these vids together! Was great to see the panel comparison, as InstyConnect 5G is one option I'm considering that integrates both -- but you coming across this company with these affordable plans has me possibly leaning towards trying a custom-built system first to use their plans. I'll have to dig into the WaveForm panel antenna vs the Parsec Akita, which was what had been in my plans. And have the LPDAs, maybe paired with a single Griddy, for when we're really in BFE. Completely agree on Pepwave, and that's with all their newest 5G equipment still using old chips (X55 class, meaning no coverage of the longer range 5G bands for some carriers like AT&T), which just seems ridiculous to me. Super advanced capabilities everywhere else... there's the trade off factor again. Their target market (commercial) must not much care, so they have no urgency.

[@comixof2morrow]

Two Proxicast cellular antennas will give you much better speeds. The T-Mobile Gateway that this one guy has is pushing 900+ Mbps download speeds and really high Upload.

[@eddygt61]

Have you tried to get T-Mobile home internet it’s a great option too

[@TKCL]

Sadly they say not available here and won't sell it to me. But I can get a T mobile Sim from a 3rd party and it works great! Go figure 🤷

[@davidoliver9395]

@@TKCL that is what I want to try. T-Mobile says not in my area and I can't figure out how to find towers

[@TKCL]

I'll cover the cellmapper.net site soon.

[@davidoliver9395]

@@TKCL thank you

[@theMekanik]

Direktional Antennas are Better they have Reach over panel.

[@nicholas4839]

My cell phone speed test is 94.2mbps down and 86.9mbps upload at my house about 70 miles from city

[@TKCL]

You are an absolute rarity. Best I've ever heard of being rural.

[@nicholas4839]

@@TKCL I agree because about 4 or 5 miles away my speeds are about half if not worse but for some reason my house I have good speed

[@LittleYellowCreekFarmMS]

Video dropped out at the speed test. Audio is still good.

[@TKCL]

I proof watch all videos before making public, no issues. I just watched the video again, no drop out of any video.

[@JustusTurner-y6s]

I get a half of a Mbps 😂😅

[@TKCL]

Yikes!

[@andrewedwards6774]

Is the netbuddy router still working good for you? I have a Verizon cell plan and get pretty dang good service. I opted for the tmobile monthly plan and it's legit not working. Makes no sense.

[@TKCL]

Yes it is, I had a small spell of dropping connection with the tower. That's since disappeared and no further problems. Speeds are still just as fast as day one.

[@brianvandy4002]

3 months and this video is already out of date. The Cudy modem they offer now is 5G. I'd love to see a review of that one.

[@TKCL]

Wish granted, already made and posted that video. It's the most recent one in the playlist.

[@brianvandy4002]

@@TKCL I saw that right after I posted this. LOL. Now I have to decide if I want to give it a try. Right now I'm using Visible in a Pepwave and it's 'good enough', but when my steam games need updating I turn on my 5g phone's hotspot, I'll probably just get the cudy off Amazon and continue using visible with it, then get T-mobile and AT&T sims from Netbuddy when I'm ready to hit the road with my RV.

[@lattermanstudio]

“Amplified” does not apply to these antennas….. good video however…. These are just antennas not amplified… it’s gain not amplification….

[@rickzambo9070]

But it did cost more

[@TKCL]

Than what?

[@JHT56]

Enough already on internet/ cell service videos. Please build a chicken coop or something. LOL

[@TKCL]

Lol well dang, without good internet I can't get you videos. 😬

[@andrewedwards6774]

So basically if my tower is 15 miles away I dont have a shot lol?

[@TKCL]

Yes you do, it all depends on the situation. If heavily forested or hilly, you might not be able to receive good signal. Do you have cell phone service at your location?

[@andrewedwards6774]

@@TKCL Yes I have Tmobile and that area is covered by 4GLTE. I used cell mapper and it shoots towards the property I will be moving to. I am within the zone but im assuming the further you get away from the tower the less signal strength you get. *Maximum Signal (RSRP) -118 dBm. That number concerned me a little bit. I have to get this figured out prior to my move or my girl might not be moving with me lmao.

[@TKCL]

Well if you have signal that's a start. Those external antennas are excellent at increasing signal strength.

[@andrewedwards6774]

@@TKCL Thank you. Keep up the good content!

[@andrewedwards6774]

@@TKCL so 1-2 bars should be enough? How is your cell service where you live?

[@andrewedwards6774]

Quite honestly not too happy with NetBuddy right now. Placed my order for a router and simcard last week. They took the money out of my account. I then got a tracking notification and number stating "A shipping label has been prepared for your item", and nothing has been updated since then. I reached out to the company via email multiple times to check on the status of my order and no one will get back to me. In this day and age a business (especially a business like theirs) has no excuse for poor communication. AS THEY ARE ONLINE BASED! Does anyone have ny other forms of contact for this company besides the email they provide on their website?

[@TKCL]

Sadly all I have is a email myself. I appreciate the feedback as I do want to know these things. Please keep me posted on the situation. Very sorry to hear about this.

[@andrewedwards6774]

@@TKCL Their address is listed as a UPS store in a ghetto area in Nj lol. Im actually a little suspect now. I hope they arent scamming people.

[@TKCL]

I've had a ton of viewers reach out with praise of receiving equipment and having good internet service. So I don't think they are not legit.

[@dalepellerin]

Ordered the $500 router from Netbuddy on Tuesday last week and it arrived yesterday thru USPS. I found the usps tracking to lag actual location.

[@andrewedwards6774]

@dalepellerin how has your netbuddy experience been so far. My internet has been out for 24 hours now. I've read a lot of bad things and people having the same issues with netbuddy. This customer service issue has been going on for 5 years now. There's something sketch with Thus company. They use a ups store address as their listed business address. I called that USP store and they said they've never heard if Netbuddy. They really keep a low profile to the extent you can't find them when you need them. I might try to do a return. I can't wait to see how this goes?

[@ihatesignupsgrrrrrrr]

$399.99 ...... come on now, these antennas are only priced that much because 5g is a new thing; they probably cost $20 to actually make or maybe $30 if they pay their employees well and not coming from Chyyna!!!!! Where is the $99.99 antennas at that are respectable quality!?

[@shyamdevadas6099]

Andrew, of all the KZbin videos I've watched on this Waveform antenna, yours was the most fast-paced and useful. You have an incredible ability to explain stuff, make it interesting, and show how to put it to work quickly. This really helps me out. Many thanks!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@GRIFF22]

Excellent review and great speeds. Two things are gonna take your speeds and WiFi to the next level. Maybe see if you can get those antennas mounted 15/20ft up. I know you get some high winds so that might not be possible. Secondly, see if your router does IP passthrough. If so, basically offload those speeds to a mesh system like Orbi or TP Link Deco and you'll get those top speeds everywhere in your house.

[@nicolasrollins8055]

T-Mobile says I’m not even covered in my area but got the 4/5g cudy router and 4x4 mimo anyways. Router came in first and I had 1.4 mbs down. After installing the antenna I got 56.7 down and I don’t even think I have it pointed just right yet. BEST VID I EVER WATCHED.❤❤❤

[@TKCL]

Glad it's working for you

[@anisboudraa7364]

Hello am from Algérie 😊 . it can connect with uniden u60 u65 u75 amplificateur ????

[@hrlee2381]

Hi from the middle of the ocean. Love the video. Great information for rural subscribers.

[@TKCL]

Hope you are enjoying your vacation

[@stangodard1]

I bought the same panel antenna, and replaced a similar yagi set up as you had. My results were them same as yours. Slightly less speed with the panel antenna.

[@MrRuss58]

Do I have to buy all this 1000 dollar equipment setup..?

[@barrettabney]

As I watch your speed test, I begin to wonder if I will survive the move to the country... I currently have >800-900 mb DL. Everything is pretty instantaneous. Surely there is a way to get faster speeds from those antennas... smh. ugh. On the bright side, I've never seen 55mb UPLOAD speeds. That's pretty amazing that your Cell signal gives faster upload then my 1gb Cable from Xfinity. LOL

[@TKCL]

I usually get 70 up, it's wonderful for uploading videos.

[@michaeldupar9453]

I'm glad I found your channel. We'll be moving to the country in a few months, so this is crucial info for me! Thank you!!!

[@TKCL]

It's been a life saver for me.

[@Jeilds]

So as long i have cellular in my area it should work

[@TKCL]

Yes as long as you get the correct Sim card for that carrier.