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[@TKCL]

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[@Trent28888]

I just seen ya vid but if ya use better coax u will find it will be even better due to ya loosin a cheap of ya signal in the rg-58 coax that came with it,also if ya put ya antennas up higher than ya trees it will help and also ya need a UPS so when ya power goes off ya can still use it

[@charliemagoo7943]

There are some mvnos that have 200gb for the $55 month on att or Verizon. I have att if I need more data it adds on immediately for another $55. So don't have to buy twice unless I need to

[@TKCL]

Charlie who are you using and where did you buy it from?

[@jamesstjames1289]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 sure! Your going to get better service from that pos! 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@ModernMountainLiving]

I was Hopefull. In North Idaho I have zero cell signal at home.

[@ShipmanPartners]

***Pro Tip*** Separate your 2 outdoor antenna's by at least 3 feet horizontally, this will improve the spatial diversity of the signal and improve throughput and reliability. Secondly, always keep at least 10 feet of vertical separation between any outdoor antenna and a metal roof. The metal roof will reflect RF signals back to the antenna that will increase the noise floor and reduce your SINR and thus lower you downlink speed. You get an A++ for the +/- 45 degree tilt on the Yagi antenna's. Most people get that wrong as they don't realize that the signal from the tower is broadcast using X-pole configuration. (I've been in the telecom industry for 25 years)

[@TKCL]

Thank you for the tips

[@jp34604]

Yeah, what he said. .... LOL ROTFLMAO

[@bumblebeeman2103]

@@TKCL if you can, I'd be interested in a video where you make these changes and test out the speed afterwards

[@SouthWestIron]

I'm about to borrow some of this genius. How would you recommend achieving the 10 feet seperation? Just a longer mast? Also Im curious if any loss is experienced with cable length?

[@TKCL]

Cable length is always a negative with a setup like this, the shorter the better.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

Elevation above the metal roof will also help. The metal roof acts as a reflector during the different times of day, sun angle, etc. Elevate above roof line at least a couple of feet if possible.

[@doubler287]

I ran through some of the comments. But wanted to add. Not only separation of the two antennas horizontally, but I would consider getting a pole that would get you over the tree line (those look like young trees so they will be growing) and I believe you will see a nice signal increase (especially from the AT&T tower) aka more bandwidth. Good luck!

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

I happen to work in the US SIGINT world and am pretty good with wireless. I also live on 100 acres in a very rural environment. I have three types of LTE / wifi / Routers. I use these devices in the course of my work with drones. Please feel free to reach out with any questions you might have. TIP: I use AT&T - I purchased to of their Android tablets and got full unlimited data internet for $15 / month per plan. (one plan for each tablet). I removed the SIM cards and put them into my LTE routers at home.

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much for the tablet tip!

[@jfbeam]

Just FYI, that's a violation of the terms. And they do know you did that, if they ever bother to look. (if you're using a ton of bandwidth, they'll look.)

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

@@jfbeam Not saying they won't / can't look at the bandwidth - (I currently work in Cyber Security for the US DoD and have deployed systems in countries for the explicit purpose of monitoring the citizens in those countries), but there is now way to easily figure out if I have artificially changed the ttl in the packet header. Just as there is no real way to discern if I have artificially crafted a fake MAC address. That is not a concern.

[@meganwinters5163]

TTL modification will be needed here; enough said without legality issues... Otherwise GREAT tip!! Thanks for the video ☺️👍

[@jfbeam]

@@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405 You don't know nearly as much as you pretend to. TTL (time to live) and MAC have nothing to do with it; cellular devices are identified by IMEI (MEID.) You took the sim out of an approved device (tablet) and put it something else. The IMEI will be different, unless you've managed to clone that too. That's how they know you've changed the device. (there are other OOB radio messages that can confirm you aren't on a tablet.) BUT, like I said, unless you're calling attention to yourself, they won't bother to look. (For an example of this, Sprint didn't allow the Google Nexus 7 on their network. It's perfectly operational on their network, but they see the IMEI, know it's a N7 and boot it off.)

[@jacque403]

I have been learning about an option for a system that works very well in areas with tree cover, Internet congestion, limited cell towers. It is called Insty Connect. Might be worth reading about.

[@ACO-Amy]

Drastic improvement for ya'll. Luckily, I'm blessed with fiber, but my sister who is not far from me, is not. I'll pass this on to her. Thanks Andrew, looking forward to update number 2.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@Bryan-Hensley]

If you have line of sight to your sister you can use a point to point system to send internet to her house. Litebeam Gen 2.

[@kingwood4357]

Great video and can't wait to see part 2. Thanks to the guy that recommended it to you and helped get up and running. 👍Sure is a big improvement for you.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@SmokyMountainBlessed]

thanks for testing and sharing this, we live in the smoky mountains at a Verizon dead spot so we had to get an AT&T mobile wifi set up but it buffers at times more in the evenings, and when we get land and move this might be more useful, because these mountains have lots of trees which mess with the Starlink signal

[@TzaraDuchamp]

That’s a massive improvement with those antennas, great job! If you want better upload and download speeds, I think you can try hooking up two of those routers to another router that supports dual WAN with session-based load balancing. Or one router with 2 sim slots with that capability.

[@jrmbtr]

Might want to do a drip loop on those antenna wires going into the structure.

[@TKCL]

I did and even talked about it, but forgot to include that in the video. Now I am mad at myself for not including it. I always sag wires to drip off and down.

[@RickC77]

What is a drop loop?

[@TKCL]

@@RickC77 you put a Loop or sag in your wire to allow water to drip off before it can run down the wire and enter the hole that you drilled. You're essentially making a low point in the wire that's lower than the point of entrance, so gravity will pull the water off of the wire.

[@beedubsky9878]

@@TKCL also leaves a little extra wire for the next 12 guys that have to reterminate it in its lifetime.

[@halrichard1969]

I dont require those kind of services but I was intrigued to see what you rural Americans have come up with. GREAT JOB! If I ever retire out to the boonies,, I wont forget your video. Tnanks for that.

[@rongray4847]

Hi Andrew glad it's helping out and making life a bit easier. Looking forward to the next episode. 🌞🇨🇦

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@werkspartsllc7856]

Form a loop about 8" diameter with the two coax before they enter your building. Ideally the short length from the loop to the building will be ever so slightly uphill. This will eliminate water intrusion into the building ( yes, you can seal the coax but over the years....there is always a chance that leaks!). At these frequencies the distance from the roof is just fine. As is the separation of the antennas. The antenna company knows this ( and I am an Extra Class Amateur license holder...). You actually don't even need two antennas for both incoming and outgoing signals to be worked simultaneously...but it does simplify installation for those not educated in that installation. For those that will argue...yes, you can fiddle with the antennas for days. Can you improve it? Sometimes you can, but the real world difference may not be worth the trouble. KISS...meaning the shorter cable run, the stronger/closer mounting position will yield a better more reliable signal. Tall masts and complicated mounting can lead to issues in windstorms....

[@STONE69_]

Wow this guys video is going to help a lot of people living in Rural area's. 60 Download and 20 upload, not to mention he was around 800 feet from his home and still getting Wifi signal.

[@oluseunadewusi4744]

Thoroughly enjoyed watching this especially the reaction to the router performance . Great job

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@walterchapman2884]

Andrew I have internet through my phone company and I get 28.7 download speed for $88 a month I do have some buffering once in a while. Your setup sounds great! The setup you've got may not be for everyone because of the location of your tower not being that far away. But for you hey it works very well!

[@TKCL]

Everyone results will definitely vary

[@ronb6182]

You can get other antennas that may work better I took the name and searched the internet and found a parabolic antenna, with the router you would need two. At $249.00 each 500 is a lot of money but if you need a more directional antenna you cannot go wrong. Oh the 249 includes the cables if you already have the cables the antenna only cost $199.00 each. Waveform is the website for this antenna. 73

[@encodedlife]

You may want to make sure you have a drip loop on your cables before they go in your house. This way when it rains the water will drip off instead of following the cables into your house.

[@fetchstixRHD]

In another comment he mentioned that he did have one, but forgot to include it in the video...

[@casspiper]

Thank you for this review. I purchased the waveform MeMo antenna based on your video and a few others, but primarily yours. My wife and I full time RV and we were desperately seeking an alternative for good wifi signal since we're both in school online. This antenna combined with the Nighthawk M1 Hotspot was the trick. We went from 12-15mbs download speeds to 50-60mbs. That's with AT&T. Upload speeds improved a little from 6-9mbs to 9-12mbs. Anyone who is living in an RV needs to get this antenna. Thanks again for your video

[@TKCL]

Glad you found it useful

[@calvincosio6940]

Thanks for this. I’m in the same boat with waiting for Starlink for our river house. Last night out of desperation I placed an order with Hughesnet satellite, even after having heard all the horror stories. Then today this video popped up. I just canceled the Hughesnet order and am going to try this out.

[@TKCL]

Don't do Hughes net, I've never heard of one single happy customer.

[@peterschmidt9942]

I never even thought of using 3G/4G as internet, as the signal here is basically non-existent. But it did give me an idea and looked into cell phone boosters. I'm currently using our NBN satellite in Oz and while it works, it's slow these days (compared to fibre and mobile Wifi). NBN plans are basically - bend over without lube or bend over with sand in the lube LOL. It would be much cheap if there was cell reception here. I'll see how a booster goes.

[@Zombiemeat00]

1: you should close the top of the mount tubing so it doesn't fill with water and rot you facer board out. 2: you should also put a drip loop on the cable so when water hits it it drips and doesn't run down the cable and run inside and cause more damage. Great video i want to try it for here in Aus

[@glass1258]

It’s open on the bottom

[@TKCL]

Tube is wide open and the cable has a sag in it specifically to gravity drain water.

[@hellogoodbye3129]

@@TKCL man you are getting hounded about the drip loop.

[@TKCL]

Omg I am, I'm actually impressed so many people know about it. I always sag my wires and drill my entrance hole upstream so water can never enter my home. I built this house from the ground up and don't want anything ruining it.

[@timroderick5190]

Great job of a regular guy explaining to regular guys!!

[@MrBp8888]

Awesome review and product! My friend said the other day that Starlink was showing his date to receive it in 2023.. then 2 weeks later it just showed up lol

[@TKCL]

Too late now, I canceled. Tired of the games with them.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

if you have the ability to lock bands - it will help. Some will have the ability to aggregate 2 bands. Your speeds will vary depending on time of day. Traditionally my speeds are lower late afternoon due to load. Also, when you scan, you should be able to identify how much bandwidth is available on different towers around you. Some towers have much more bandwidth available on different channels than other towers.

[@TKCL]

Huge difference in speed from afternoon to early morning. 6 AM for example this morning and my speed was 3 times as fast as last night. Probably because very few people are using the tower.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

CAT12 means that it has the ability to receive multiple LTE signals and aggregate the bandwidth.

[@allynscott1983]

Nice! If it makes you feel any better, I only have 5 Mbps upload speed with my Comcast cable, but I hear what you're saying for wanting to get faster upload speeds so that you can upload more of this kind of content.

[@ruirosado6289]

Congratulations! Those results are awesome.

[@TKCL]

Thank you, it's nice to finally have internet.

[@roberth3094]

Move your antenna higher to clear the trees. Also to get away from the metal roof.

[@joshuaharris4484]

I would look into some lightning protectors in line with the coax, just to protect your router and to keep it from coming into the house. I have an HD antenna on my chimney and ran it just to be safe. Cheap insurance...

[@TKCL]

I cut this video short because it was running long. One of the things I talked about was proper grounding since this company offers adapters. I should have left it in the video.

[@PineyGroveHomestead]

Good information. We get 200+mbps in the "city" with cable but we know that will be a thing of the past when we move to the country. Will definitely be looking at a setup like yours as our farm is about the same distance from ATT towers.

[@TKCL]

We will eventually get fiber, but it's a couple of years out.

[@roberthermsen724]

Just to give you an update and how smart you were on getting your appliances ahead of time. Another channel I watch had been waiting over 7 months for there wall oven and they were just told it would not be in for another 5-8 more months. Absolutely crazy the times we are in.

[@TKCL]

Oh wow! That's sad

[@digitaldan8223]

Awesome! Welcome to the 21st century, my friend. 😊 I have about the same Starlink story, and I've been so happy using T-Mobile Home Internet (for $50 month) that I'm not even considering Starlink now.

[@TKCL]

I wish I could get the T mobile plan.

[@mikeestes1076]

I’m getting an average of 200-275 DL and 30-75 UL. .25 ping STARLINK is the bomb.

[@TKCL]

Not what I'm seeing here I have several friends with it. The best we've seen is 150 down, it's been a lot worse lately now that more people are on the network and it's at max capacity here. I know it should get better as they launch more satellites. Luckily we have fiber heading our way in the next 2-3 years on a project that just launched with our power company. Guaranteeing 2G speeds up and down, that will be amazing! 😍😍😍

[@Vulcankrypto21]

I wish t mobile coverage was better in my area first day t mobile was great then speeds tanked

[@TKCL]

Make sure you reset or reboot your router often. Some need that daily, you might see your speed jump back up.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

You want as much separation vertically between each antenna. The radio signal is shaped like a football and has many layers embedded with the signal. Will still work - but separation is better.

[@DevanB1]

(1) How much space you reckon between the 2? I have mine right at 32” from center bracket to center bracket. (2) Also, I have the top antenna sitting vertical, and the bottom antenna sitting horizontal. (3) Is there a correct way or should I say much better way to position the antennas to receive the best quality signal? (4) What would be the best cable to use for both antennas? The run is right at 50’. (I have this exact same set up as what’s used in the video above.) Thank you in advance.

[@DevanB1]

@Muddy Pawz Ranch

[@TKCL]

I'm getting ready to do some more testing since the antenna manufacturer reached out to me with suggestions. They actually recommended no separation.

[@Trains-With-Shane]

I know the feeling when it comes to the Starlink wait. I had been on the list over 14 months and then Frontier brought 2.5gbt fiber to my house. It was pretty satisfying cancelling my Starlink waitlist and getting that $100 deposit back.

[@TKCL]

Oh yeah, I don't blame you.

[@SouthWestIron]

Honest thank you from our family. Just moved to an area where we are struggling with a cell hotspot. We will be trying to configure something similiar. Been on the wait list for Starlink for almost 2 years. Reminds me I need to get my 99 deposit back.

[@TKCL]

Your welcome, as long as you have some signal, this can boost it.

[@W42PZ]

@@TKCL *you’re 😄

[@donkeymedic]

At&t are trying to restrict some of there sims to a IMEI. But you can normally complain and they will lift it. This means you can get an unlimited plan, even a tablet line, and move the sim to your router. I have done it and it works. They only catch is if you go over 20gb they "MAY" slow your speed down. This is typically only during congestive times. Basically you get a lower priority. However when I have done it were I live it almost never slowed down. I live 30 mi north of Harrisburg PA. Also the major carriers are starting to roll out fixed data plans. This is basically locks you to a tower but gives you unlimited 5G. It call fixed 5G. This is not available in most places yet, but it coming.

[@michiganengineer8621]

Speaking as someone who has wired MANY professional satellite LNB's, waterproof connection's _AREN'T_! A couple of ideas that should help, both with the cell and the Wi-Fi. 1. See if you can get an old home TV antenna tower (or a new on if the budget allows). Height is your friend when it comes to connecting with another radio system, which is what a cell tower is after all. This would also get you over those trees that were in the way of the ATT tower, trees LOVE to block GHz radio waves. Attach a lightning rod to the top of the tower and make sure it is VERY well grounded! 2. Try running some extension cables for the Wi-Fi antenna and move them towards the corners of the house, should give you both wider and more even coverage. 3. For ANY antenna wires, get the best available! Cheap wiring will eat the signal between the antenna and the router. 4. Muddy Pawz is dead on regarding antenna spacing, those are what are called "diversity antenna" and they work best with at least one wavelength of separation between them. 12 years, USN Radar tech and then 20+ years working in broadcast TV.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for the information

[@joec2157]

Great 👍 info sir !

[@KS1776]

Dead on especially with the possible tree issue some higher ghz stuff just gets decimated by tree especially evergreens.

[@michiganengineer8621]

@@joec2157 Thanks, I try to add some helpful tips when I can. And, I'm more than willing to accept correction when wrong!

[@jfbeam]

Also, the higher they get the more likely they are to become lightning rods. (it's an unavoidable trade off.) Being cellular, speed's going to be all over the place anyway.

[@radmilamiljanic5977]

I'm glad you finally found something decent!

[@TKCL]

Me too

[@BrysonDesjardins]

Thank you, starlink wouldn’t come so we got this, works great! Will recommend! Also I looked at plans with no data cap, and unlimited, anyone else using this internet should research that as well

[@TKCL]

I've released a lot more videos on other routers and unlimited plans. There are quite a few options out there.

[@bharris1653]

I fully understand your glee at such a signal and distance. Congratulations! However be aware that AT&T is great jumping in bed with them but getting out might be hard! I ordered internet with them a couple of years ago and had to cancel the install because they couldn’t get any part of the install order correct! After canceling the order (it was never installed and not a single bit of data was delivered) they started billing me! It took me 4-5 months to get the bills stopped but then a year later they turned me over to a credit collection agency! All beware of AT&T!!

[@TKCL]

I have prepaid with them, so I can cancel anytime.

[@dandearman2871]

You should consider keeping the coax length between the antennas and your router short if you can. A longer length of coax will eat up more signal than a shorter length and for the frequencies the cell towers transmit and receive at the losses in a length of coax can get very high, also, every connector in your coax run will also causes some signal loss.

[@TKCL]

I really want it longer, but I'm sticking with the 30ft cable that came with the antennas. They appear to be excellent quality.

[@brianwild4640]

Or buy better quality coax

[@NematHeydary]

@@TKCL I'm seeing two different types of cable advertised on the Waveform website. The first is the RS240 coax and the second is the RS400. Supposedly equivalent to LMR240, the RS240 is advertised as being included in the package and then the very next picture in the description says that 30ft of RS400 is included. As has been mentioned, this is a small thing you can change to eliminate 1dB of loss over that 30ft. For a 30ft RS240 line bringing in AT&T band 14 at 700Mhz with 50 Watts, you would lose ~2 dB which is ~34%. Alternatively, with the better RS400, the loss would be ~1dB which is ~17%. The shorter you can keep that line going from your antennae to your router, the better. I have my router connected via 3ft LMR200 cables but I also use an outdoor enclosure with POE. With POE, you can have the router on the pole spraying its WIFI unabated onto your property while you have an ethernet cable that comes inside to another router to spread the signal inside your home. The pole I use is a telescopic flag pole I got for $45 which goes 45ft up. Lag bolt that thing onto your building and now you're above the ground too. And the good thing about POE is that the only cable you need to both power and transmit data from the router, is an ethernet cable. I'd/We'd love to see you test and show the different speed results from your progression towards optimally setting up your home via the improvements that many have contributed already. Awesome stuff!

[@Nevir202]

Nice you got something good for you. Even though I lived in Phoenix, one of the biggest metro areas in the US, my internet was always a disappointment. Finally got on fiber, though I had to move to a different country to do it. lol Just ran a speed test, 345 down 173 up with only a 5ms ping! It's so nice!

[@TKCL]

That's amazing! I can't wait for fiber!

[@kerrysv1]

I was in the same boat AT&T is my only provider with cell service in my area and they required that I buy an AT&T certified router. Didn't have to buy from them but it had to be a cat 16 certified and AT&T certified. My current antenna setup is a single external and based on your video will be looking into a dual antenna option as Starlink is waitlisted till late 2022 for me and I signed up in March 2021.

[@ronnie-being-ronnie]

Be sure to ask providers what exactly “unlimited” data means. As I was researching, I found the term did not ever mean unlimited at the speed you’re paying for. Ask at what point they throttle your service before committing, and ask what happens if you go outside their limit, and also ask if it resets automatically each month.

[@TKCL]

I agree, almost any plan has a "potential" cap point to where you could be throttled. That does not mean you will, that's a priority limit in times of congestion. I personally don't see that on my cell phones that use around 200 gigs a month.

[@mattricard26]

They all cap you, there is absolutely no good alternatives to starlink other than fiber

[@TKCL]

I have been using over 200 gigs a month on a Hotspot device for two years, not once have I been capped. It depends on your area and how congested a tower is. They all have the "option" to throttle you based on congestion. Now the new RV starlink everyone is running to also has the same option to prioritize service. Fiber is the best option by far if you can actually get it.

[@williameldridge9382]

@@DieselRamcharger I'd use that in a day. These cellular routers are a scam.

[@TKCL]

A terabyte in a day? What on earth could you possibly be doing? I don't use that much in several months. A TV running 4k 24/7, gaming and more couldn't use that in a day. You are definitely the exception, the average household isn't using anywhere near that much. Im surprised your internet provider hasn't threatened to cut you off.

[@waituntilthebeep]

T Mobile's "unlimited" is metered really low, then defaults to 2G or 3G depending on network traffic. So unlimited connectivity, yes. Slow as a snail after a really small data usage, absolutely. ALSO, electrical tape will only hold IN water, not hold out. To properly waterproof those connections, use "bi-seal" tape. It is rubbery and self bonding. Wrap it up real nice and it will self vulcanize and seal like a dream. Available on Amazon or at your local home store in the electrical department

[@TKCL]

I think Verizons the same way for home internet.

[@jbodden6977]

tmobiles 'high speed' is everyone elses base speed. 2.4 mb/s is the best I have ever done, at $180 per month. for two and a half years. For a long time I believed what I was told (what do I know about the innards of networking??? not much) but now I am becoming more and more edified and more and more angry.

[@hkguitar1984]

100% agree, that electrical tape sets up a worse situation than no tape at all.

[@JonDisnard]

I'd suggest enclosing the wires in conduit, with junction boxes.

[@waituntilthebeep]

@@NicholasMaietta That's a good idea. Hadn't thought about doing that for some reason.

[@BibleBikerChurch]

Hello friends, Pastor Fred here in Rockwood TN. This is great information. I have finally got the ball rolling on getting up to my 20acres of Forrest, and I know there cell towers (multiple) within a mile, so this may be the way to go!!!

[@TKCL]

Congratulations on the property

[@jperin001]

Wow! Happy for you! What you were working with is comparable to dialup 20 years ago. Enjoy!

[@TKCL]

No kidding

[@missinglink7709]

keep in mind, that cellular has no vpn capability and does have connection limits. Yagi's are good, if your signal is too hot at the service provider you can be in for some grief. I should clarify that it has no real qos, you can in fact build your own vpn, but all traffic is best effort. In working with some wireless engineers they build scripts to keep nailed up connections up 24x7 from happening. As those would build up and take away from number of users that can register to a site and decrease total bandwidth. Only firstnet is designed more like the telco ip network. With qos etc.

[@charliemagoo7943]

Calyx has vpn don't they

[@EchoKilo]

That's a bummer about the StarLink. I paid the deposit in April 2022 and just got my system last week. No cell phone coverage where we live, no cable or fiber either. StarLink is a miracle for us and faster than the services in town where they have cable and fiber.

[@TKCL]

I'm happy it worked out for you, it just isn't available much here in the south.

[@EchoKilo]

@@TKCL I was shocked to see it so soon. All I heard was 2023.

[@niccolealdrich4890]

THANKS FOR SHARING!!!!! My husband and I are going to be moving out of the city and buying a homestead. Our current provider will have to be canceled when we move. Internet connection has been a concern. We thought that we would be stuck with something like Hughes net. So glad I stumbled on your channel!

[@TKCL]

Just use the cellmapper website to verify your towers servicing the area. Glad it helped.

[@blythdunlap8408]

That is some crazy range on that setup! That is very impressive.

[@TKCL]

I was blown away, I've never seen Wi-Fi work so far away.

[@timfoster5043]

Don't use electrical tape on those outdoor connections! Use 3M rubber mastic tape. It's about $9/roll, but it's made for that purpose. It congeals upon itself. After you've covered it up completely with 50% overlap, then you can put electrical tape around it to protect it from UV.

[@johnfors4738]

Right or wrong, I always wrapped electrical tape over the fitting, sticky side out, as tight as I could get it and then put the mastic over that. Much less of a mess when I went to take them apart.

[@davewallace.8303]

One thing to remember, be SURE you change your router’s standard password to a complex password (8 letters 2 numbers 2 special characters). That way it will be VERY hard for someone to hack and piggyback on your internet.

[@TKCL]

That's the first thing I did

[@davewallace.8303]

@@TKCL Awesome! I work in Cybersecurity and you would NOT BELIEVE the amount of people (85-90%) who forget or fail to change the “Factory Setting” password for their routers or switches. Makes it SOOO easy for a crook to not only hijack your internet device, but then worm their way into your computers, put key logger software on it and then steal your passwords to EVERYTHING you hold dear.

[@zed4229]

lol it does not matter if you use caps numbers ect if the password can use them. 99% of the time if some one gets your password they know you and guessed it. you put it in a Phishing site. They used a keylogger that you most likely downloaded your self. just 8 digit of letters only would be a 1 in over 2 billion chance odds of guessing. edit to add you wrote it on a post it man the people I have seen do this with passwords at work.

[@pooljunki1]

was in the first group in on starlink and love it

[@TKCL]

I wish I could have got it, one delay and excuse after another had me looking at other options.

[@jeremiahs45]

Glad you have found better internet at your house

[@TKCL]

Me too, it's been working very well!

[@1sinister80]

I'm going all in on starlink I can't wait.

[@TKCL]

I was ready myself, could never get it. A blessing in desguise, I now have great internet for $39.99 a month after all the digging around I did.

[@austinjacobhunter]

Thank you. I just bought a rural farm. Hope it gets me going.

[@TKCL]

As long as you have one bar or cellular service, this can boost it.

[@jed2055]

Love your amazement and the gear you have now is next level stuff. My model Asus router known to have good WiFi, enabled my son to pick up our WiFi in a school bus 120M away before it (quickly) dropped off so of course anywhere in the house was not a problem. That's nearly 400 feet! You get what you pay for and I know you paid well for your router but wow, it's worth it. You could probably stream music while you are driving your tractor. Great vid, thanks. Oops, I thought it then you said it lol. That's Starlink grade upload speeds from what I've seen on KZbin. Not bragging, heck I don't even use it anymore but I was on a 300Gb plan with a telco we don't use anymore. for AU$50 per month.

[@brandonl9440]

I’m setup with Starlink & a Ruckus Access point… does phenomenal around my acre of land. Never lose wifi and house is totally automated

[@bravefart1203]

You say you’re not tech savvy? Dude you could put IT tech on resume now. Thank you for the vid. Very informative. Letting us know other options.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@Hemidakota]

Excellent analysis. This will be helpful as we retire on a large property in the rural area.

[@TKCL]

Make sure you watch my current videos, better routers and unlimited plans.

[@graham3282]

brilliant - from UK near London

[@WindomRettes]

Droppin valuable knowledge.

[@owenjohnson5030]

I had Starlink in the middle of the forest in Oregon. It was awesome for what it was. Generally had 150 down but only about 20 up. Moved to Indiana about a month ago. Have gig fiber now and am getting close to 600 down and up on Wi-Fi. 900 down and up on wired. Yeah, I’m living near a bigger city now but I still have an acre plus I no longer have a mortgage.

[@TKCL]

Our electric company just signed a 3 year agreement to provide all homes with 2g fiber! I can't wait!

[@mikeclarke3005]

That is darn good speeds period,most do not need that much, have 10mb on farm (ATT DLS) , VPN for work, mom watching Netflix, albeit no 4K but why anyway? Alarm monitoring and occasionally remote viewing cameras from phone and never sen a problem so far with any slowness that is that noticeable.

[@TKCL]

That's how I feel Mike, I'm averaging 40-50 Mbps down right now and it's handling everything I've thrown at it. I don't watch in 4k or game, so maybe it wouldn't work in that respect.

[@Recovering_Californian]

Love my Starlink. It's a game changer for me. I've had mine for over a year now. Sucks you haven't been able to get one.

[@TKCL]

It's been highly disappointing all the promises that never deliver. I had to find internet some way.

[@pokieydamnit]

Man am I glad I found this video.

[@TKCL]

Just found a AT&T unlimited plan for $80, trying to order and test. I'll have a update soon.

[@dougdavis4439]

A very nice alternative Andrew! Great information my friend!

[@TKCL]

I hate giving up on Starlink, but boy do I feel led on. Always a new estimated time when I log in. Luckily we do have fiber heading our way in a 2-3 year project that just kicked off.

[@dougdavis4439]

@@TKCL yeah, crummy of them to do that for sure. The cellular system looks like a good option until the fiber makes it there. Then you'll be living high on the hog!

[@OliverAllpress]

Enjoyed your video thank you! You have a lovely home and land!

[@TKCL]

Thank you very much

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

I added two Wilson amplifiers to my setup as well. I bought them on the Wilson page as re-manufactured units at a sizeable discount.

[@stevesohn5436]

Where is the amplifiers in your setup? I have a 60ft tower with dual antennas 4ft apart. I run that down to my house with 50ohm lossless antenna cables. I am using M1 Nighthawk cellular router. I avg 25-30mbps down and 20-30upload on Band66 (B66). Do you think I could increase my speeds with 2 amplifiers running to my router?

[@TKCL]

I'd be curious to hear that myself.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

@@TKCL I have the two Wilson amplifiers mounted to my “Communications Wall.” The two coax runs come down into a shipping container and is secured to the wallboard. There I have the two Wilson Amplifiers mounted to the wallboard as well as my two LTE routers. (A secondary for backup). Then I used two connectors to terminate the coax to the antenna leads on the LTE router.

[@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405]

@@stevesohn5436 I have the two Wilson amplifiers mounted to my “Communications Wall.” The two coax runs come down into a shipping container and is secured to the wallboard. There I have the two Wilson Amplifiers mounted to the wallboard as well as my two LTE routers. (A secondary for backup). Then I used two connectors to terminate the coax to the antenna leads on the LTE router. The amplifiers will only increase the strength of signal between you and the tower. Sometimes this allows you to get to a tower that has more bandwidth available per user or simply gets you to the tower that you could not previously connect to. Strength of signal does equate to bandwidth or speed. Stronger is better. Example: with your home wifi the standards tell you how much bandwidth you will get based on signal strength or distance from the base unit. The closer you are or the stronger the signal, the faster your speeds will be. The same example applies in this case with the amplifiers.

[@stevesohn5436]

@@muddypawzranch-mytexashome3405 I agree with you to a point about signal. For instance. B13 (700mhz) is my strongest band (5bars and lowest TX) with the best signal. However, the bandwidth is limited to about 5mbps down at it's best and .5mbps up. Wheras, B4 or B66 gives me the best bandwidth. However, my signal strength on this bands is about 3bars and sometimes goes down to 2 bars. When this happens my bandwidth drops. This is why I was asking about signal gains and bandwidth gains.

[@LiveStormChasers]

Man, I would have just done the RV kit from Starlink - you have the open skies for it!

[@TKCL]

Wasn't available when I bought this. Plus if you search my area for the RV kit it still shows not available. The RV kit is also subject to throttling based on needs by standard customers and its expensive monthly. I am currently testing a AT&T unlimited plan for $70 a month. I'll keep this option until we get fiber. Now starlink is sending out notices that up to 75 percent of customers could be affected by the new dish network 5g rollout. They have too many bugs to work out in my opinion.

[@ArizonaPatriots]

We are doing this it works great

[@tegansdungeon]

Great video and very educational. Great job and thank you.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@pampilgrim2274]

Hi, Andrew! FINALLY!!!

[@ryanzynda5114]

Awesome video. Love your review videos. 🤠

[@telocity]

Well few things to consider. 1. Starlink does have option for RVs, my friend got his a month ago and is currently traveling from California to NY/Canada down to Florida and back. Has had a good experience so far, decent bandwidth for streaming movies and video chat. Only works when stopped, which is good as he is driving. So he can use at home and on road. 2. For those places in the world where government can shut down your cellular, a satellite link is bueno!

[@TKCL]

I've had a lot of viewers reach out that own that system and tell me they are experiencing throttling and slow speeds. Apparently the portable plans are subjects to throttling. Not to mention $135 a month is steep. I am currently testing a unlimited plan for $70 a month.

[@1rustytree]

Good info ! I need to check it out!

[@1crazynordlander]

I use the same method to aim my TV antenna as you described at 8:00 You might say it is crude but in my estimation it is very accurate.

[@history-stamp]

You are correct, but wi-fi router manufacturers have jumped on the "5G" bandwagon. Cellular 5G is 5th generation while wi-fi is 5G hz.

[@TSi99999]

Very nice kitchen. Thanks for the vid.

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@michaelbyrd4004]

Wonderful video. Thanks. I've got a best friend that I want to help out. Although, he is surrounded by trees. But I'm going to refer back to this video.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching, I'm surrounded by trees too!

[@billroberts9044]

Very good video. Thanks.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@hrlee2381]

Congratulations on your internet.

[@TKCL]

Thank you! Finally!

[@glenwoodfin]

Love that 1000 year metal roof.

[@emaildavidlehman]

Can’t wait to see how the livestream does Sunday.

[@TKCL]

Trying to figure outive stream software now.... It's confusing 😳

[@tubeRaleigh]

👍 great information!

[@driggars]

This is a nice option while waiting for no caps at all on starlink, I had Verizon before starlink, I paid 100 a month the same as starlink, only difference is that Verizon would slow me down so slow that I couldn’t load a web page, also the video speed was slowed to 1080p max. With starlink I get 150mbps speeds and never any throttling at all and full 8k hd video. I’ll never go back to data caps.

[@TKCL]

I just found a AT&T unlimited plan with zero caps for $80 a month, I'll be ordering that plan asap.

[@ScrapMetalJr]

Thank you for this info, I am about 2 hours south of ya and have the same issues. DSL is 12 m down and .75 up. hard to upload content. I have tried a few in the past but I think the antennas make al the difference. I will order and try those out. Can't wait for the Verizon test video as I already have accounts with them. Thanks again. Be Safe.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching

[@Sammyismysidekick]

GOOD keep GOING!!

[@williamcantalamessa5231]

Good morning from Siesta Key Florida

[@TKCL]

Good morning

[@JohnnyG1956]

The Starlink order trick works. I live in south Fl and use an address in Nebraska as my address and used my FL address as the shipping address. I received my equipment 13 days later. When it became available, I selected the roaming plan. As a full-time RVer, I have used Starlink in places that the map shows as future expansion. That said, Starlink is great for streaming video, not so much for video calls (which I do for work.). Your setup looks super interesting.

[@TKCL]

I know a guy with your exact name but have not seem him years. Did you use to have a business in Live Oak Florida?

[@JohnnyG1956]

@@TKCL That is too funny. No, we moved to SWFL 6 years ago when we went full-time in the RV. Before then, we were in PA.

[@secondamendmentconservativ3556]

Starlink works excellent

[@TKCL]

When you can get it

[@geekcruz]

must be nice to be the only wifi signal in the area, lol. great video, keep up the good work.

[@TKCL]

That's why we bought in the middle of nowhere.

[@Pendaws]

Well done mate, tackling a problem with common sense :)

[@TKCL]

Just trying to get some internet

[@briandeadmond176]

great..thank you

[@jed2055]

That's a good way of zeroing on your tower Mr Kelly. Another way for those with a hiking/trekking GPS; not the car type navigator is to: 1) find the tower on google maps and drop a pin on your tower and note the co-ordinates. 2) put those co-ordinates into your GPS as a waypoint and name it 3) set the GPS to display a compass pointing to that waypoint (even cheap Garmins have that feature) 4) up on the roof, rotate the GPS compass - it will point to your tower. I used that to fine tune our FTA tv antenna.

[@seniorbug]

I love how excited you are about the now router, 😅🤣

[@TKCL]

Internet is everything to me in my line of work.

[@MVPLRJohnson]

Thanks for the info, brother. Cool lookin place too. Like to see a walk around of the house.

[@TKCL]

Thank you for watching, I've been building that house myself over the last year. Still many projects to go.

[@billytrujillo8661]

Great info....I appreciate it!

[@TKCL]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@the-papaw]

I use a cat16 modem/router with 4x4 mimo and it's cheaper to build or buy than the mofi's or waveforms. Better modem with more options. I also use Ultra Low Loss Coax Cable which makes a huge difference. I don't think you get that with the waveform kits. I started out more like what you are doing, actually not as good, but you're getting there. Awesome video!

[@TKCL]

Thank you

[@ascensionranch3213]

I got my Starlink 2 weeks after I ordered it. Celluar internet wont work where I live. Glad you found something that works.

[@TKCL]

Glad you were able to get Starlink, I got over a year of excuses and delays.

[@ascensionranch3213]

@@TKCL did you got the more expensive model or is it just your area?

[@TKCL]

Area says max capacity. I got 4 different updates and time frames from Starlink while I had my deposit paid over a year. None of the dates were met, last update said 2023 or later.

[@ascensionranch3213]

@@TKCL that's very unfortunate. I am not sure how long its going to be around anyway.