Tim Ross CONFRONTS The Drama & Pulls Back The Curtain on THIS

[@RuslanKD]

🤝: Watch the FULL Podcast Early Here www.patreon.com/posts/tim-ross-tells-81471422

[@radar8658]

May I please get Pedro’s full name so I can link with him. I’m working on an MBA at USC and required to do 20 entrepreneurs interviews. I would like to focus on Christ follower entrepreneurs.

[@ElijahRock92]

Can we appreciate that Ruslan is willing to give anyone a seat at his table and giving them the space to speak? You learn a lot both good and bad when someone is just speaking their mind as opposed to calculating a debate response.

[@derrickcarson]

Tim: "I don't allow anyone who is not in the arena with me critique me" Me: If you are a Christian then we are in the same arena, bro. The Holy Spirit has given us the authority call out brothers/sisters who are out of line. I don't care what Brene Brown or Roosevelt said. I'm hoping you didn't "stop being a Christian" when you became a podcaster. If not then I hope you understand that God trumps the pod.

[@RuslanKD]

You think someone in the comment section has authority or insight into how to create a podcast or make a video. Remove the spiritual aspect. Just think through this with me

[@bukkyg2080]

@Ruslan KD I believe insight can come from anyone, anywhere. Obv, not every comment is serious, but if one has experience with that profession, they would have insights and would like to share them even if it's through the comment section. I don't think every opinion should be dismissed just cuz it's from the "comment section" sometimes, it's the only way to reach out.

[@JonnoFly]

@@RuslanKD I’m a bit confused. So does some in the comment section not have the insight to make a podcast or a video? I’m pretty sure there are 1000s of podcasters and video creators who comment on other peoples videos and podcasts. So that would mean they do have the insight and authority.

[@denisesmith2211]

@@JonnoFly exactly this is such a weird take

[@amandaecheona1457]

What is authority, and who does it come thru is big question! Elisha had Elijah, Joshua had Moses, John the baptister's followers had John. The Holy Spirit gives the power thru others to empower us to be covered and accountable. Dominion and authority is available and is not just handed out. The kingdom of God is about order, and if we step out of line, the covering is there to make sure we are restored. So true kingdom authority is not recognized without counsel and leadership above you.

[@KingJosiah45]

Got a lot of love and respect for Tim but honestly when it comes to what Tim has set his mind as right whether it be on Mike or cursing or other questionable subjects he’s spoke on or preached he gets very defensive and closed minded. Want to support this guy but I gotta say there’s just a lot going on with him that’s spiritually concerning and you’d have to be spiritually blind to not see this recently from him. Praying for him and all that follow him 🙏🏾

[@Mere...Greene]

Could you point to where Tim got defensive? Genuinely asking. I also want to say, just because someone comes to a different conclusion than you (this is a general "you"), it does not necessarily mean they're close-minded or defensive nor does it mean they're spiritually blind. It could just mean that two people disagree and sometimes we can leave it at that.

[@chanon.arthur]

​@Mere Greene no...sometimes you have to point things out to protect the people. Paul points out and corrects those who went out of line. Not saying that Tim is a false preacher but he has to be able to take correction from his fellow brothers in Christ and seek to go back in line with correct doctrine else he will cause many to stumble and impact lives in a negative way. That is why Peter said not many of you should become preachers ciz there is a harsher punishment if you offend or cause God's people to stumble

[@Mere...Greene]

@@chanon.arthur Where is Tim's incorrect doctrine in this video? Where did he get defensive? I'm sincerely not following what your reply has to do with my reply.

[@thewildnest7554]

Totally agree

[@chanon.arthur]

@@Mere...Greene I'm responding to the latter part of your message where you mentioned "just because someone comes to a different conclusion ot doesn't mean they close minded or defensive and you can simply agree to disagree and leave it that" I'm saying as a brother in Christ, you don't just gloss over a "different conclusion" especially if it's something extremely misleading. Look at what Paul said to Peter, "But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed. For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision. And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation. But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews? We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles, knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" Galatians 2:11‭-‬16 KJV So you can't say that you could simply disagree and move on, you have to know when to correct as well especially if they start going way left with what they are teaching

[@marvintillis8136]

It is so good to see men opening up about things like this. This is so needed in the church. I was sexually abused by a cousin about 8 or 9 years old. He's still alive i have forgiven him a long time ago. The wounds in my soul have been healed, but i still have a long way to go, but their has been a lot of progress. I gave my life to christ in march of 1982. Thank you for being so open and honest.

[@RobinKHood]

I love how y'all are both authentic, love others and each other well and won't shy away from talking about the hard stuff. You can feel the respect and care between you even when you don't agree.

[@Driszy.]

It is very concerning to know that such a well known pastor can compare Jesus Christ as a stripper and not get confronted about for clarification. I would love to hear a justification or a biblical basis for such a statement. I do not mean rip the guy apart, but rather with love and respect have a moment of dialogue so that Pr. Ross can clarify.

[@pertuniasoboyisi8671]

This podcast was recorded months before the stripper reference

[@Driszy.]

@@pertuniasoboyisi8671 Understood! Still remains true since he’s said nothing till today.

[@DavidMarcilloCoronado]

The timing on this release 😬😬😬

[@lilone11586]

The context is he said Jesus took off glory, i.e. “stripped” it off to be the propitiation for our sins. Wise choice of words? No. Enough to “cancel” him? No again.

[@Driszy.]

@@lilone11586 Thank you for your reply. I, however, can think of maybe a million other ways to describe what Jesus did for us. Stating that Jesus is the only stripper he treats with reverence is blasphemy at best. Sometimes pastors such as Tim Ross and others get so caught up in wanting to use analogies that conform to today’s standards that they say things that are unreal. And what’s worst is people cheer on these metaphors and analogies as revolutionary and biblical. I also disagree in canceling him. I just wish pastors were held to a standard that they can’t just say outlandish things without ever addressing it.

[@ann-mariebennett]

I absolutely love the fact that they demonstrated how we as Followers of Christ should come to the table...I do not always agree with either Tim or Ruslan but I love who and what they are to our faith. As someone who grew up in church religion, these are the conversations that need to happen. Phenomenal jobs my brothers❤

[@KeyonnaD]

He’s so right about baptists. My great grandmother passed recently. But in celebrating her life we recalled that she knew the Bible, loved the Lord, and smoked her cigarettes until she was on oxygen 😂 She was apart of the National Baptist conventions and went to Bible College. She truly set the foundation for the women in our family being devout and serving in ministry and beyond.

[@munfyphoto]

Just what Tim said about people calling him out, confirmed it for me. Exactly why churches have an elder or a deacon board. You have to have someone you are accountable to. On a podcast Tim is beholden to no one. Why didn't Tim cuss in church? Cause he wouldn't have anyone in the crowd. And if you're not as popular as him or "cool" as he is, then don't call him out. Only Tom Brady can critique Tony Romo. Can Ruslan critique Tim? Does he have the clout Tim does? Whats the standard for these guys. They want your Patreon and your money, but don't question them. And Tim comparing himself to Paul? He ain't Paul, not even close. Guarantee you Tim's numbers go down, player won't cuss online anymore.

[@lilone11586]

It’s not about popularity, it’s about community. It’s about the people who intimately know him and his heart AND the word of God/Holy Spirit to be able to call out what’s wrong. I guarantee you if a random person off the street offers you correction vs. your best friend offers you correction, there’s no way you give both equal weight. There’s no love or care with the random person off the street or in the comment section; there’s love and care and weight in community.

[@munfyphoto]

@@lilone11586 Totally hear what you're saying. That little snippet rubbed me wrong because I do feel that pastors are accountable to their parish or their church body. If not then who are they accountable to? The Lord? They obviously aren't accountable to him when they say the Lord told them it was ok to curse on his podcast. Thats a joke and we all know it. Does he curse around his grandmother? Doubtful... Would he curse around the President of the US in the presence of the Lord? Well he would cause he said Jesus told him it was ok to curse. I think he does it to push buttons and be the "cool" pastor. All in all, I feel like pastors should be held to a higher standard or why have anyone pastor or lead you? We are all fallible and none of us are perfect but if your a pastor you should at least try to be a good example to those who look up to you.

[@nathanloan3334]

​@Aisha Q. Riley It depends. Am I in the wrong? Is the random person a Christian that has witnessed me being in the wrong? If the brother or sister rebukes me with kindness and a solid biblical stance then yes. They have every right to do so.

[@lilone11586]

@@nathanloan3334 And you have every right to receive whatever correction you want. But everyone has been knit together by God differently and has a different calling. He has decided, based on his life, his mission, his “calling”, his personality, etc. that if he ingests every piece of criticism thrown at him from his close circle and randos alike, he’s going to go crazy (I suspect I would too). So he’s going to keep his potential criticism intake to people who actually know him. Maybe since I’m an introvert, I get it. Too much from too many different places is overwhelming and unhelpful.

[@jimpadilla6795]

​@Aisha Q. Riley is not a community if they are his followers. We don't follow people. We follow God. If they are following him only, he better be spot on or he will be held accountable leading people astray. For when one says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere human beings? What, after all, is Apollos? And what is Paul? Only servants, through whom you came to believe-as the Lord has assigned to each his task. So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 1 Corinthians 3:4-7

[@shannarael]

Thank you both for your honesty and willingness to share the Lord, the gospel, and your own journeys. You two have an incredible connection and I truly hope to see a lot more collaborations! 🙏🏽

[@tebogombuyane8229]

This is the second video I have watched. The first one was the one where you were talking about him using vulgar language in one of his teachings /sermons. He gives off a defensive demeanour and seems to want to rationalise blasphemous ways of getting the message of the gospel across. It makes sense that he is mentoring Mike Todd. I pray that God will move in their hearts so that they realise that they have a platform to get many saved. I pray that they realise that catchy controversial antics are not necessary. Especially if the cost is the loss of reference of the Lord. We come to Christ for Christ. We revere him. I pray that God turns their hearts to the truth. That he uses them to lead the Savior. Oh, I pray for him. ❤️ 🙏🏾

[@rachelhall4808]

I loved this conversation! This is so candid and real. It helps me keep in mind the humanity of leaders and frontmen. I appreciate this greatly.

[@vanessa-8375]

Big church, big platform, big influence. The church cheered for the stripper reference teaching, the Easter play fiasco, and the gay-trans teaching. There is something wrong there.

[@truthinlovemama]

What was the gay-trans teaching? In support of lgbt?

[@chontaveal2392]

@@truthinlovemamayou can find it on KZbin. In his efforts to show compassion he gives the impression that he does not know why/understand why/agree with God’ standards. Didn’t know how to help with their struggles…at some point he said something like everyone is welcome…trans is in our name trans-formation 😮… went way too for IMO in his effort to show compassion.

[@truthinlovemama]

@@chontaveal2392 thank you for explaining

[@cheto0911]

Thank you for sharing with us. In my opinion it takes a great deal of bravery and courage to be this vulnerable and share your struggles. I do believe though, there is a huge level of responsibility the two of you have that I know you know you have to have. So although we may FEEL a certain way about things , scripturally we have to be very careful. And that goes for ALL of us behind these screens and for those that are right in front of it.

[@catherinethompson6531]

Tim is full of excuses. Does he not realize the profession he chose?? He is a pastor. He is held at pretty much the highest standard compared to the rest of us. Saying the F bomb and being unrepentant to that is so wrong. Modesty in language is so important. Yes Tim, you can have emotion. But no, you can’t keep giving excuses for your immodest mouth. And if a spirit told you that you can cuss to your audience to bring more to Christ, it probably was not the Holy Spirit.

[@T8smith123]

To dispute your point, when I was becoming a new Christian after having lived a life full of trials, Tim was the person who genuinely helped me come to Christ the most. The reason for this is because I and others need to see Christians that are relatable in order for us to learn more about the word and connect. I am a social worker who has provided therapy to the kids locked up in San Diego, and I have 100% been a vessel for God working through me to bring those kids into a relationship with him. In order to do this, I used swear words all the time, as this helped me connect with the kids and form a relationship that in turn helped me spread the word to them. Too many times in the Christian community we make people feel like they are walking on eggshells and are unable to be themselves, but many people need those who are relatable. This is not to say that we shouldn't hold ourselves to a standard, but I can honestly tell you Tim swearing(just being his authentic self) actually made him more relatable to me and helped me tremendously in my Christian walk.

[@RevAK47]

1:37:32 I do not believe God would call one to curse. God would not call someone to do something that doesn’t line up with the word. (IMO one can disagree that’s fine too)

[@othneilchamberssr]

There is NO CONDEMNATION. Pray for our Brothers when there is a concern and let JESUS do the work! No HUMAN, can change A MAN. ONLY GOD CAN. TIM ROSS is a HUMAN. A GREAT HUMAN. Thank you for your contribution to HUMANITY.

[@sticktothescrip_tures9282]

It is not okay that he thinks that what people are saying about Mike Todd is just that people dont like him as opposed to him teaching things that are unbiblical.

[@minervadouglas7576]

What is he teaching that’s not biblical?

[@KuniKarin01]

yup

[@KAydelott7]

@@minervadouglas7576 I’ve fact checked him before and OFTEN misquotes the Bible in favor of whatever msg he wants to give. Could be a coincidence, but more than 3x’s is concerning. Especially bc you can google a verse and be right EVERY time. I encourage you to research and be open to criticisms. Be blessed honey

[@minervadouglas7576]

I get my understanding from the Holy Spirit not google!! And as a profession my job is research and google is definitely not considered research!! Search the scriptures and seek The Lord He will give you direction

[@marguigarza]

But test everything; hold fast what is good. Abstain from every form of evil. 1 Thessalonians

[@jonl7591]

The more I hear the guy, he says some good things, has some good perspectives. But he should spend less time excusing the flawed means and talking about hindsight, and more time encouraging people to be that one that stands up and says "this is wrong and shouldn't be happening." Sure, most people during slavery didn't/wouldn't stand up and call it out. But some people did, that is why it was abolished. Aspire to be that guy, don't excuse the multitudes who never bother to think and just sit happily in their context.

[@derrickcarson]

Good word!

[@dhasanmccomb3571]

My mother taught me if one person is criticizing you it might be that person but if everybody is criticizing you it might be you.

[@matthewshell]

Love this interview. Heartfelt, informative, and inspiring. God bless.

[@raqueltorres6380]

It bless God studios

[@TenilleLandy]

I was very torn and confused about Tim, and I realized in a world of lost in translation messages I was missing something about Tim that hadn’t been shared. Thank you Ruslan for making space and giving Tim the opportunity to share his story. That’s what Jesus would want and I’m stoked you held a space for this opportunity and am grateful for your platform. Keep being real and genuine it’s working and it’s what God wants from us 🙏🏼😎🤙🏼

[@Jamieforeals]

I’ve struggled with judging Christian’s who to my standard (cuz it was my own) weren’t living or doing things as a Christian should ie: cussing and stuff. At the end of the way we have to worry about our own salvation. All we can do is pray for people to get close to God. Lord had to correct me on judging and being legalistic. If we don’t agree? Give it to God. Pray about it and make sure that YOU are right with God. We will face the Lord on our own on that day. Don’t let others life affect that way you live yours, go to the word, to the source, Jesus Christ ❤

[@isellBOTSbro]

What I’m gathering about an hour and 45 in… Do what you want. Say what you feel. Let me be me. Being cool is what actually matters.

[@Jrivera2787]

This episode is nuts, my 2 favorite christian influencers on a pod is already gold & the at the 1:17:00 mark a story of my dad giving his life to the Lord is crazy🤯🤯. God just blew my mind with that!!

[@djlane522]

Be concerned with holiness not celebrity

[@CamsPurpleCorner]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@LeahMarieCarson]

You guys have so much chemistry! I got caught up watching your convos till like 2am last night lol

[@randallo_wat]

Didn’t know anything about Tim Ross before this and enjoyed a good portion of the front end but the more I listened the more the red flags started going off. Is association with Mike Todd is problematic enough but he seems pretty nonchalant and flippant about his relationships with Jakes, Benny Hinn, etc. At what point does a pastor cross a theological line??

[@sunniegb]

I really enjoyed y’all’s conversation! Awesome interview

[@drevisiontv7655]

This episode helped me to be confident in the freedom to follow God whole heartedly & execute what’s he’s called me to do without the worry or caring what the critiques think!!! No one can cancel anything God has predestined and or ordained💯💯💯💯

[@alexiscolby9415]

He’s not in Black churches because they would of kicked him to the curb a long time ago.

[@bradypatterson8859]

Just saw a clip of him calling Jesus a stripper, then this shows up. Will definitely be watching.

[@davelopez8097]

He won’t be talking about that clip though. This pod was about 2 weeks ago. The stripper thing was about a month ago. Ruslan just gave TR some grace not even bringing it up. This one’s more about Carl Lentz being hired by TC as a “strategist”.

[@omnitone]

@@davelopez8097 bruh

[@Johnskis10]

Yea that stripper analogy was not it, it was so far off from the mark of what a sermon is. Then whats with this apostolic stuff is Ruslan a part of that movement too?

[@Williammanime]

So a male or female who is attracted to the same sex is not a sin… attraction means desire, just like lust means a strong sexual desire for someone. Matthew 5:28, Jesus said if someone lust (strong desire) after a woman in his heart has already sin. Now you guys saying as a married man if I desire another woman in my heart, as long as I don’t act on it I don’t sin. That’s crazy

[@ashleywilliams1988]

Scripture goes to great length to delineate temptation and sin. If we don’t make that proper distinction, all the dominos fall (Jesus was tempted, yet without sin). So there is a category that exists where one can be tempted towards a given person or action that precedes sin. When it comes to homosexuality, I don’t believe having an attraction to the same sex is sin. That would mean that even a celibate, faithful Christian is in perpetual, active sin. I don’t see a category of such a Christian in scripture. And yet there are Christians who love Jesus and submit wholly to his biblical sexual ethic, and yet still experience attraction to the same sec (Jackie Hill Perry is a good known example of this. She maintains that she is still attracted to women). To use your example, surely you notice when a woman is attractive, no? How could you not? I notice when a plate of fried chicken is attractive! But there is something in the middle between noticing someone, being attracted to them, and lust/sin. The category of temptation has to remain or we collapse the sinlessness of Jesus.

[@jimpadilla6795]

​@Ashley Williams not accurate. If we have a lustful thought Jesus equates it to adultery...

[@ashleywilliams1988]

@@jimpadilla6795 I agree, but you’ve jumped from temptation to lust. You’re making my point. Scripture clearly delineates this. Explain to me what “tempted in every way but without sin” means?

[@JAYP.616]

Sin by definition means missing the mark, error, so regardless of our feelings, the bible is clear what error or sin is and we are NOT at liberty to redefine it. To even be attracted to anyone of the same sex is error, to err, thus it is sin. God doesn't need us to push boundaries or be a great orator to reach people He's sent us to reach. All of this is unwise.

[@KAydelott7]

@@ashleywilliams1988 but they said “desire” not attraction. “Just as death and destruction are never satisfied, so is human desire”. Your desires are in your heart. So Matthew 5:28 works here. Be blessed everyone

[@Sansan-iu1wr]

HOLY SPIRIT, I pray for Pastor Mike Todd. Please be with him.Please defend him. Help him to overcome every wiles of the devil; every accusations and every setbacks. David wasn't perfect, but you called him a man after your own heart. Paul persecuted the church and wasted it, but you still used him to your honor and glory. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, had many flaws, but they are honored in the Hall of faith. Peter denied you, and the rest of the disciples forsook you, but yet your grace abide. So I pray for my dear brother Pastor Mike, that you would strengthen him, and sabbatage Satan's plans to destroy him and the work you have begun in him. I pray for divine protection for him against every spiritual warfare. Cover him under your POWERFUL BLOOD LORD JESUS, and sealed him to your honor and glory. Let your name be glorified in this man's life. And even when he has fallen short of your glory, hold him up in the palm of your righteous right hand. Use him and dont refused him. Keep him as an apple of your eye. Hide him under the shadow of your wings. Fight for him, and cause him to be still. Cause him to remain on his face before you,, and keep his eyes on you. All glory goes to you, LORD. You deserve all the glory,, all the honor and all the praise. Thank you for the cross, and the victory. Thank you for your everlasting love, patience and kindness towards us. We overcome by the blood of the lamb and by the word of our testimony. In Jesus' name, I pray for your servant, Pastor Mike Todd. Amen!!!!

[@ejmommylawrence2000]

Amen! Praying for those who are teaching and preaching is so vital.

[@heatherduvall7331]

God uses broken people all throughout the Bible. Tim seems like he needs to grow in spiritual maturity for sure. We all do.

[@oxenbrandmusic]

Yo that clip of 'if every other question is about Mike we gonna stop'...lookin' to see that full context for sure

[@tomasinanorman2128]

I’m super glad I listened to this, lots of good stuff. It blessed me.

[@skyemanion947]

SO GLAD you had him on!!!!

[@ChrisBurnette68]

Ironic that bro said he respects the pulpit, but got up a few weeks later and called Jesus a stripper and talked about “making it rain”

[@lilone11586]

Contextually, he did not liken Jesus to the stripper who takes off their clothes for money. Wasn’t wise, but in context it wasn’t as heinous as everyone is making it out to be.

[@albertinamack8177]

@@lilone11586 he kinda did though. He referenced T Pain’s song I’m in love with a stripper when he said the only stripper I’m in love with is Jesus. He also said he got butt naked on the cross. What else is he talking about? We don’t make it rain on booty cheeks?!!! Sir what?!! Like why use that in reference in a message about Jesus putting bread in your pocket. It was so ridiculous! No defense at all.

[@deeayeveeeyees]

@@albertinamack8177 the lengths they'll go to be relevant and cool..smh!

[@albertinamack8177]

@@deeayeveeeyees yes that’s what I think it Is too.

[@KAydelott7]

@@lilone11586 true questions without judgement, but shouldn’t we take any slight from other Christian’s towards Jesus as heinous? If we don’t hold ourselves to high standards(which is HARD), the world won’t either. We are meant to be set apart tho so I have disagree with it not being “that serious”. Be blessed and let’s continue to grow together through the tough work

[@showtimekrumper08]

Ephesians 4:29 Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for edification according to the need of the moment, so that it will give grace to those who hear.

[@Mrssmith2011]

Tim Ross has the best analogies. Early Christians have to develope in the dark or the image will wash out 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🤯🤯

[@JenniferMontest]

Yeah after reflecting_We have to continue to pray for our brothers and sisters in Christ with these large platforms_ because ngl it’s giving modern day Hellenism… Because for a man of GOD to look at light and truth and call it darkness (by even relating or likening it to it) in order to reach people_ it’s not only an L but it borderline runs the risk of blasphemy… Biblical Literacy Matters…. Praying that GOD would continue to illuminate the understanding of his people as we engage with a fallen world and people… Shalom

[@arabesquejacob8176]

Well said!

[@PWard324]

Amen amen amen! Yes I couldntve said it better myself. My heart is grieved with the state of the body in this hour. This is mind blowing. Never thought Id live to see it get THIS BAD!

[@strong_gal_tee]

Amen.

[@silviamadrid3636]

Watching this video made me subscribe 😌 great conversation.

[@arielsmith7615]

I wish this was time stamped

[@disroc8]

Maybe I’m not at a level of sanctity that would allow me to share the same sentiment as these brothers: but I am not wishing to reconcile with a serial pedophile. He molested the entire block of kids. Justice needed to be served and I hope that it did. Not apologetic.

[@isaacmondesir1814]

Who’s a serial pedophile!?

[@alexiscolby9415]

You’re right. You are not on the same level of sanctity as them.

[@reyelfather]

​@@alexiscolby9415 who are you to say that? I'm pretty sure op wouldn't call Jesus a stripper.

[@davisj7973]

not even addressing the stripper allegation is so…it is what it is

[@godsdaughter2157]

Timing prevented response, but I think we do have some potential insight as to why he is so comfortable making those statements from the pulpit. He became over-sexualized at a very early age and that trauma can show up in mysterious ways even when the person thinks they are healed. May or may not be the case- but approaching this with empathy I can’t help but wonder if there is a connection and if this is a prayer point.

[@strong_gal_tee]

​@@godsdaughter2157 nope, he just lacks reverence.

[@brandonshelby1448]

Glad y’all came together.

[@jonl7591]

Talks about his podcast: "I don't know what I'm going to say, I don't know what my purpose is, I'm figuring it out as I'm going." Same guy 10 minutes later: "I loathe being misunderstood." You can't have both. You want to learn as you go, you're going to be misunderstood. And that is on you, not on the one misunderstanding. Not saying you're wrong for it, but it is reality.

[@RuslanKD]

That’s fair. I think he was specifically sharing about being misunderstood by folks who perhaps aren’t being charitable and trying to understand. But I get what you’re saying. From my experience, I try and be very CLEAR about why I have certain conversations. And I guarantee there will be people in this comment misunderstanding a conversation as a full endorsement. Perhaps that’s the type of misunderstanding he was getting at it. It seems willful. As in intentionally mis representing someone. Fair?

[@kelzreallife8293]

So he can't be uncomfortable with something every human being is uncomfortable with? Got you. You love being misunderstood, right?

[@Chrissycolelive]

I pray for Tim Ross and Mike Todd but my spirit can’t recurve from them their message is a bit of scripture and a lot of secular. I just don’t understand why he’s on the show… is it because he’s popular because I don’t consider him a righteous man. My younger siblings pointed out the errors in his messages. Seems Ruslan only calls out people who he doesn’t bump elbows with praying for Ruslan too. I think on my journey of seeking the word of God I have to filter what I expose myself too. Where do we draw the line as Christians? I’m a bit jaded and disappointed.

[@adiamondintheroughcleaning8824]

I am in agreement with you. The Holy Spirit 😮is telling me that something is off here. I love Ruslan and truly believe he is a man of God. I'll have to pay about this.

[@godhg9694]

Who are you to say "he's not righteous" who has bewitch you. get your own podcast, The guy is spreading love not hate.

[@angelinaoliver5587]

@@godhg9694 what’s with the bitterness? Your energy is weird bro…

[@godhg9694]

@@angelinaoliver5587 u need love..u sound silly.

[@Marvin-zv6md]

He may have righteous intent but it's about delivery to the hearer. Paul said all things are permissible but not everything is beneficial. We shouldn't be judging our brother but praying that he is more wise in delivery.

[@myfaithwalk1]

I think it’s essential to watch the entire video before commenting and forming an opinion ❤️ Thanks for sharing this episode! Appreciate the transparency!

[@gloriacoleman62]

The transparency isn't the point for me

[@gloriacoleman62]

There is such a thing as CODE OF CONDUCT. How you prevent and represents

[@joelmukambwe5132]

Amazing conversation 👌🏾, full of great insights. Keep doing what God has called both of you to do without fear. Keep shining ✌️

[@dhowa862]

Oh this is going to be intense!

[@maricelalaines-crus7929]

Love Tim Ross! Idcccc, I have learned when a person is appointed by God and has a heart for God it’s just so Special, someone will always have something to say! We will Pray for you man of God! No one is perfect the only perfect one is Jesus Christ!! Cant wait to watch. This man has captured my heart!!

[@ChandlerDaniels]

He still sus for calling Jesus a stripper

[@maricelalaines-crus7929]

@@ChandlerDaniels well let’s thank God for forgiveness, grace and mercy. We all make mistakes, we all say things that we should not (even out of ignorance) and guess what God does not count that against us! Praise Jesus!!! Already watched this and can I say that’s a man of God!! Realll all the way!! Watch the basement highly recommend!!

[@chinfuzzchet3616]

His Jesus was a stripper comment was abhorent.

[@maricelalaines-crus7929]

He who is without sin cast the first stone. It’s easy to throw rocks, when we ourselves are sinners. Let’s pray for Tim Ross instead of throwing stones at him. God called us to love our neighbor, which the Golden rule. God bless you my brothers and sisters in Christ. ❤️❤️

[@MariaRios-pd9oh]

😂 Not me watching this a year after it came out and I currently live in Idaho 🤣😂

[@gageramsey2200]

They only talk about Mike Todd and TC for a few minutes at the very end. Just heads up

[@MrJxtr]

Absolutely a needed podcast right here. Tim and Ruslan 🔥Also we need to hear you both on the same track 👀

[@bjroper1282]

I SECOND that emotion!

[@keepclimbing15]

Tim: Maybe baby Christians shouldn't be watching my podcast. Also Tim: But also we're not a Christian podcast and we are trying to reach people that don't believe like us and we have atheists, agnostics, LGBTQXYZ, etc etc that listen to the show. So we want to reach non-Christians and show that we are normal because we curse and are "authentic" but be careful baby Christian because you don't want to stumble by watching a podcast with Christians who curse and act like the world. Are we changed by the Holy Spirit or not? Are we a new creation in Christ or not?

[@lenishachance7672]

The trailer to this was FIREEEE🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Deeminuz]

I like Tim. He reached out to me with blessings and this is when he wasn't social media popular. Very Kool guy never changed character. One for the Lord for real. Proud of him

[@godschild2432]

You like him but is he a good example of a Christian???

[@Deeminuz]

@@godschild2432 I can only refer to the experience I have came across with people. The rest is for God to judge. I wish everyone well.

[@HeadtoTailBBQCooking]

The church belongs to Christ. So it should bare his name. Thus Church of Christ. God doesn’t speak to us directly as he use to. He only speaks to us through his word.

[@alantumpkin715]

I appreciate your interview. His thought that oneness people are mean because they “don’t have an a daddy” is a stretch. I do agree they tend to be mean, but I think it’s an absence of the “love of God is shed abroad in your heart through the Holy Spirit.” I think bad theology produces bad fruit.

[@deeayeveeeyees]

lol i noticed that Tim references a lot of his ideas as some mind-blowing revelation, when in reality its just a bad take.

[@suhielrojas2189]

🥹🙌🏽💕🙏🏽 God is so good! A timeless breaking of generational curses! With both generations able to witness that. Only our God!

[@goodflow3766]

🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥🔥 fireee interview‼️‼️

[@MBKSJC2]

Interesting thing is we use harsh language all the time whether you mean to or not. It doesn't have to be certain cultrual words deemed that way. When you're replacing that "cuss" word with something else, but your heart is still the same when you say "dang" are we not in the same boat? We can get so focused on throwing the baby out with the bath water. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@pearlivory3483]

Agreeeeeeed

[@goldengirl7625]

Very true! Also, we don’t even have to say anything outright to cuss or curse anything. Someone can be sitting in silence, but in their heart and mind, be holding the foulest sentiments about another person or thing.

[@MBKSJC2]

@@goldengirl7625 yes, that is also very true.

[@showtimekrumper08]

Your right. So get rid of it all. Don’t justify the other.

[@hlampe0521]

Ruslan, you're so awesome bro, but I am laughing pretty hard about all the things that supposedly get muted because nothing did except the lgtv thing was obviously said the way you said it. 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@austin8240]

Tim's positioning himself as an apostle, gives him the assurance that he is above criticism. Very surprised Ruslan lets the Apostle talk slide.

[@RuslanKD]

There’s apostle title and there’s apostolic gifting. I would never refer to him as “apostle tim ross” but I’ve been open that people can have apostolic gifting for today. It usually looks like church planting and overseeing.

[@Edgar-s1]

Apostles exist today?

[@RuslanKD]

you would have to define apostles. as in those that walked with Jesus. no.

[@Edgar-s1]

@@RuslanKD office vs gifting I guess right?

[@austin8240]

@@RuslanKD Does scripture seperate the title/office and the gifting?

[@Fueg7]

Is this the “We only serve one stripper” Pastor ?

[@agrinnethngwenya6946]

Yep

[@itszecowgirl]

Unfortunately

[@arabesquejacob8176]

😂

[@KAydelott7]

As much as I try to connect with Christian creators, I sometimes find it hard once they reach a certain lever of “fame?”. But I’m going to end my disagreements/judgments and leave with this Titus 3:9: "But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and contentions and strivings about the law, for they are unprofitable and vain.” There’s no need to go back and forth with Tim or those you feel are bordering blasphemy (not saying that he or they ARE, but you get it). He thinks he’s right therefore arguing is for our benefit to say we were “right”. It has zero benefit to the effectiveness of the kingdom. Therefore we pray for him and let God finish his perfect work in us all. Love yall. Continue to follow light.

[@Chuletew]

I am watching the doc on FX and I’m proud of Carl’s family for telling their side.

[@LiveHealedCoaching]

My dad explains it like this. When I was a kid. God gave us 70,000 words to express ourselves. And occasionally the cuss word is the one that first. Most of the time it isn’t. If it’s excessive that’s a lack of using the vocabulary God gave us. I think this is the right mindset to go by.

[@denisesmith2211]

the Bible commands teachers/leaders to be above reproach. its literally that simple. this isn’t a hard concept to grasp so the mental gymnastics to defend cussing especially as a pastor on a public platform under the guise of “trying to get an understanding” and “grace” is so frustrating. the “Christian” church today would be unrecognizable to the church of the Bible, and quite frankly to God.

[@LuisSanchez-cr4to]

Hi ruslan I would like to buy the Armor of God denim jacket when would it be available

[@ryanmaupin818]

Ya i can tell you right now from everything iv read and watched of this guy. He should be a regular member at best. Definitely not a pastor. Christianity getting crazy man. Hasnt anyone ever hear the phrase be more jesus like........ cuz thats the exact opposite of whatever this is

[@essential6183]

FrFr

[@derrickcarson]

So glad you posted this. I was beginning to think I was going insane with all of this caping going on in this thread, right now.

[@ilovepiedoyou2]

He left being a pastor last year, shortly after starting his podcast

[@dorrymayne6819]

I was thinking this as well. We are not to be ourselves, we are to be conformed by Christ.

[@BarsAndBeatsEntertainment]

Ruslan's talks are top tier!

[@sabsfugee]

I was waiting for this

[@astralcowboy1345]

1:19:33 God used pastor Tim for this exact thing for me in September/October 2022. I spent my whole life thinking I knew God, when I never even knew the Word. My heart broke when he said he was passing the baton. But I got to go to Irving and go to embassy city the next week, because I just happened to be in Dallas that weekend. Man, that church is alive with the Spirit! And it ended up being encouraging g to watch someone listen to the Spirit’s call in their life with such grace! I thank God for Tim Ross and Juliet!

[@crystallight369]

There is no “perfect” example of a Christian and definitive interpretation of the Bible in “human” form except for Jesus ☝🏽. Let’s extend grace, otherwise we’re being contrary to what we are created to exercise & represent as believers of Him.

[@gloriacoleman62]

Basically there is no change. How can you have the same mouth when you were in the world that you have a supposed to be a save me and you supposed to be representative of the change but where's the change cuz you doing the same thing you did before now so I can't get with what he saying so if you condoning saying cuss words than you will compromise eventually on other things and that's just not cool that's why the world is in the situation is in because of all the compromises there's no standards you got to have standards standards

[@mpad680]

Amen sis! A baby Christian can see their inability to get the basics of Christianity.

[@lilone11586]

So you would liken cursing someone as the Bible addresses (discouragement, belittling, wishing bad on them, etc.) to casually using profanity in conversation, using words that likely weren’t around in the same context during Bible times? I don’t use profanity, and it’s not without conviction if I let it slip to myself when I’m angry, but is that Bible or culture/society?

[@gloriacoleman62]

I don't agree but let me think some more about it

[@elicit6043]

@@lilone11586 Would you say that it’s fine if we make use of modern day cuss words just because these specific words weren’t used in Biblical times? Cussing, cursing, profanity, swearing, etc; are seen as the same type of obscene language. Also, are we not called to be Christlike?

[@lilone11586]

@@elicit6043 I already said that I don’t use profanity, and when I slip it comes with conviction, so obviously it’s my conviction that it’s not Christlike to use it. I’m simply offering another perspective that I’ve heard that helped me not throw the baby out with the bath water. Everyone is entitled to follow their own Holy Spirit-provided convictions unless it’s obvious - no stealing, no killing, no adultery.

[@jessicacastro7824]

Hello everybody

[@Just_F.e.e]

🙏🏽 Praying for Tim. God could have not possibly told him to curse and its scary if he is following a voice other than God's and saying it is truth.

[@deeayeveeeyees]

The number of times he started off by saying that "God told him to.." was weird. everytime i hear someone start a sentence like that I know they want to be able to justify their actions without being questioned because then they can just twist it to "are you questioning God?".

[@the.toronto.disciple]

Mike Winger holds a different perspective than Soft Complimentarianism. He does not agree with women pastors/elders.

[@correyteague8272]

Enjoy it but come on god would never tell you to curse

[@lilone11586]

I’ve heard several people make the argument the problem with profanity is directing it at a person to curse them or discourage them, not just saying the word. Particularly since the words we use now likely didn’t exist back in Bible days in the same context we use them now. Culturally I’m conditioned to believe all profanity, internal or external, directed at a person or not, is w wrong but it’s something to consider. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@mmaxpress]

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. So it is no surprise if his servants, also, disguise themselves as servants of righteousness. Their end will correspond to their deeds. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

[@jpblessed123]

Great Analogy on Ben Johnson. My Generation too.

[@Jeffdurbla11]

Dr. Peter Williams has a great lecture on slavery and scripture.

[@disroc8]

Dog, I feel like I’ve been waiting forever for this! Every time I thought it was posted, it still said “upcoming.” Lol

[@ambcfoxe4171]

Proximity Clause??? You have not been to Brooklyn, NY we have 8 churches on one Block.

[@ZackHollar]

i would be interested in his take on bishop chris hill. doing ministry with him and where he at now. Chris was one of my heroes.

[@jayman1338]

Jones is right about Ross!

[@Oreo_the_CattleDog]

This looks like it’s gonna be an amazing video!! Can’t wait!

[@jimpadilla6795]

He seems like a good guy and entertaining. Also feels like he is always performing and much more concerned with pleasing his followers more than God. I'm only beating if of what I've seen here and his Easter performance and a couple other clips. I don't know the man at all. But that's what I've seen

[@sarakuzminski159]

I love you both dearly.

[@katyasehryn8810]

God forbid anyone with influence be human. Sorry to y'all smh 😓💔

[@theargoslads8803]

Yes human and not god so when someone with influence says something that seems to come from the devil and not god be grateful that other Christians that love you will try and guide you back because the devil will use your ego and pride to blind you. I love Tim btw but we must walk with Christ and not with the people or the culture because soon we will be persecuted for being Christian so our foundation must be made out of rock (god) and not sand (culture)! Repentance will be followed by forgiveness thanks to our merciful god 🙏

[@katyasehryn8810]

@@theargoslads8803 I was referring to vulnerability - like how Tim was using expletives out of a PROFOUND level of disgust. Don't try and spiritualize this. It's nonsense like this that has people in the spotlight walking on eggshells because of unnecessary critism like this. We've been given grace so as we have freely recieved we should freely give. Unless they're straight up heretical then call cap.

[@Marz259]

Robert Morris is an absolute G

[@deeayeveeeyees]

except when he twists scripture to manipulate people into tithing.

[@Dynastyproductions94]

Regarding your story around 1:26:00 YES we need you in those circles to have conversations. Especially if it pops up live where we can see their responses. Also, What/who are the apolstolic reformation movement? What should I know?? Thank you for this awesome interview.

[@jillianrawson5248]

Bro, I truly appreciate you men!! You are a blessing to the body of Christ!!!

[@RevAK47]

1:23:53 hm I do find it interesting that what you preach would not sound or be similar to how you would sound outside of the pulpit. These voices should have some resemblance of each other or maybe I misunderstand what you mean.

[@RandomBoxingGuy]

Ruslan… at 15:40 you mention the Battle Rap scene… you GOTTA get A Ward, Loso, or Street Hymms on here!!!! Christian battlers that are KILLING secular dudes on URL, KOTD, etc!!! Thumbs it to get these dudes on!!

[@Delroy61]

My aunt invited me to Pedro's 100x Academy weekend virtual session last year, and they're definitely Word of Faith. 1 - I moderately enjoyed the experience, but near the end they brought this lady on stage to share her testimony. At the end of her story she thanked Jesus for blessing her, but Pedro cut her off and spoke to the crowd, "It was you guys. You all blessed her!" I understood what they both meant, but it was slightly jarring. 2 - They took the word "favor" of God and re-packaged it to mean a whole bunch of super ambiguous positive prosperity phrases and that was a bit strange. 3 - The end of the session is what really opened my eyes. The got the whole crowd hyped up and started throwing bagels into the crowd. Said they were holy and then started "slaying people in the spirit". I've grown in the Pentacostal denomination so I'm super familiar with this stuff, but what I was witnessing seemed to be more emotional manipulation and heavy heavy marketing than a healthy work of God. They pretty much used God has the vehicle to sell their courses and products. Super artificial man 🥴