Russell Oberlin in Recital (Part One of Four)

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CubbyNH

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@robertafink9457
@robertafink9457 12 жыл бұрын
When I, as a teenager, first heard Oberlin's voice (Leonard Bernstein's controversial version of "Messiah"), I thought that it was the voice of a very sexy woman. I was surprised to learn that the voice was than of a man. I have always loved countertenors, but I found Russell Oberlin to be the very best. Regards, Robert A. Fink, M. D. Berkeley, California
@Winnepausakee
@Winnepausakee 12 жыл бұрын
Russel Oberlin is THE voice of the "counter tenor" or "male soprano" or "high tenor" phylum. His voice is natural, not forced, not what I would call "falsetto" ala Alfred Deller. Oberlin can/did sing most anything as naturally and with as unforced a voice as I can find on any record or disc. Indeed, I should think his effortlessness would be the example for all voices to aspire to. Scrummmage_1999
@rafaelcortilsayago9353
@rafaelcortilsayago9353 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/paGcZK2gaLaFd6c
@sfkcbf
@sfkcbf 15 жыл бұрын
In the past few years, I encountered a young waiter and also a young supermarket checker who had very beautiful, alto speaking voices. Neither one, however, sang. Apparently, no one recognized their potential or encouraged them to explore singing.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 9 жыл бұрын
Simply amazing.
@sfkcbf
@sfkcbf 15 жыл бұрын
The major reason that Russell Oberlin sounded different from other "countertenors" is that high-tenor / alto was his natural voice.
@rafaelcortilsayago9353
@rafaelcortilsayago9353 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/paGcZK2gaLaFd6c
@IchiganCS
@IchiganCS 4 жыл бұрын
No, but because he had better technique
@terrymac6
@terrymac6 4 жыл бұрын
@@IchiganCS Yup
@TimothyAsbridge_TENOR
@TimothyAsbridge_TENOR 2 жыл бұрын
@@IchiganCS pure head tone technique to be precise
@IchiganCS
@IchiganCS 2 жыл бұрын
@@TimothyAsbridge_TENOR Id never say something is "precise" in terns of singing technique - so many people use terms diffrently
@KKIcons
@KKIcons 10 жыл бұрын
Music for awhile... shall all your cares beguile. I first heard about Russell Oberlin from the amazing Bach Cantata 54 he did with Glenn Gould, but this has become a favorite as well. I watch these with my young daughter, who loves Russell Oberlin. He is a household name around here.
@annastesia4547
@annastesia4547 9 жыл бұрын
KK Icons Impressive icons.St.John of Sanfrancisko
@KKIcons
@KKIcons 9 жыл бұрын
Eurythmicc Divisionn Thanks for the compliment on my icons. We love St. John in our family.
@am-ir2bx
@am-ir2bx 2 жыл бұрын
So bright sounding !
@mjk5807
@mjk5807 3 жыл бұрын
He is a gem of his time; today the countertenors delight, and R. Oberlin was a natural male alto.
@VoicesofMusic
@VoicesofMusic 13 жыл бұрын
Amazing.
@Rickriquinho
@Rickriquinho 9 жыл бұрын
Music for a while Shall all your cares beguile. Wond'ring how your pains were eas'd And disdaining to be pleas'd Till Alecto free the dead From their eternal bands, Till the snakes drop from her head, And the whip from out her hands.
@lalagonegaga
@lalagonegaga 15 жыл бұрын
Thanks for uploading this. Very interesting to hear and see this artist at work.
@richardzuelch375
@richardzuelch375 8 жыл бұрын
Russell Oberlin (1928-2016), American countertenor. Career as a singer (1951-1964).
@paulsmith5752
@paulsmith5752 5 жыл бұрын
@@savioalves1234 Because the strain of singing so high with an haute-contre technique, in other words using modal voice except at the very top, led to a vocal collapse in his late 30s.
@kgus123
@kgus123 15 жыл бұрын
Russell Oberlin! I haven't heard this name (or voice) in decades. He may sound "different" from the big name countertenors we hear today, but his voice was similar to his contemporaries. It's been interesting listening to the "evolution" of countertenors over the last 40 years; the naturalness, power ,and flexibitiliy of a Daniels, Scholl, or Dumaux didn't exist when I started listening to early music. Thanks for this trip down memory lane.
@emailvonsour
@emailvonsour 4 жыл бұрын
Naturalness?? Scholl?? Are you high?
@kgus123
@kgus123 4 жыл бұрын
@@emailvonsour No. I'm just old enough to remember how much the countertenors of Scholl's generation sounded less strained than those of Oberlin's.
@emailvonsour
@emailvonsour 4 жыл бұрын
@@kgus123 Objectively incorrect. Scholl produces straight tones, like most modern classical singers. Straight tone = garbage singing. He has shitloads of tongue tension. His voice is hideous and unnatural. When did people lose their ears for singing? Why does every singer wobble now? Why do they sound breathy, rough, and yawny? Ever wonder why singers born in the late 1800s never wobbled? Ever wonder why there are 0 stars today? Nobody who sings like Andreas Scholl will EVER be a legitimate international star. No one wants to hear Kermit the Frog sing like Miss Piggy.
@kgus123
@kgus123 4 жыл бұрын
@@emailvonsour I've heard Kermit sing, but not Miss Piggy -- so I'll have to accept your analysis. I also noticed that you had no opinion of Daniels, or any of Scholl's contemporaries, which is what I was referring to.
@xbasket12x
@xbasket12x 14 жыл бұрын
This is so beautiful....would it be weird if I'm 14 and was deeply enjoying this? Because I'm sure not many people around my age listen to this sort of music....
@fredycastropinzon7342
@fredycastropinzon7342 5 жыл бұрын
Uno de los mejores contratenor es de todos los tiempos por que su voz es natural no como los otros que cantan en falsete o voz de cabeza
@rafaelcortilsayago9353
@rafaelcortilsayago9353 5 жыл бұрын
Solo conozco a dos contratenor naturales el gran russell y a este señor que he escuchado kzbin.info/www/bejne/paGcZK2gaLaFd6c
@Twentythousandlps
@Twentythousandlps Жыл бұрын
I've never seen a singer who pointed his head up the way Oberlin does, here and on the video of Bwv 54.
@dstanl
@dstanl 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so used to hearing modern countertenors I’m finding this a bit strange to be honest.
@robertmonthe9750
@robertmonthe9750 3 жыл бұрын
😂 his voice is really pure and crystal clear
@paulh9277
@paulh9277 8 жыл бұрын
rip to a true artist
@tenor-haute-contre
@tenor-haute-contre 2 жыл бұрын
Considering the fact that this is a « Low Countertenor » air, he just sounds like a typical Leggero Tenor/Haute-contre to me.
@arxsyn
@arxsyn 5 жыл бұрын
he sounds very similar to a contralto l think
@SquallPwnLife
@SquallPwnLife 15 жыл бұрын
@kgus123 i just stumbled across this guy singing dowland, he certainly didn't strike me as a classic countertenor voice but more of a female lead in a musical or something. he's got this strange (but rather pleasant) tone but i have to say he's very good even if he doesn't have the range of some of his contemporaries
@thealessio60
@thealessio60 12 жыл бұрын
finalmente riesco a a vedere e sentire questo grande-sono irreperibili le sue incisioni.sapevo della sua esistenza ma niente di piu
@mradaChris
@mradaChris 15 жыл бұрын
I'd agree with you there. I had a high voice back in my 20's. People use to think I was the lady of the house when they called! Time has lowered my voice to a tenor/baritone voice.
@eustazio
@eustazio 15 жыл бұрын
spoken and singing voice are two different things though...
@grig035
@grig035 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, but this countertenor's speaking voice is exactly the same as his singing sound, however. Check it out. You can catch Russell Oberlin both speaking and singing -- and using clearly the same sound for both -- at KZbin at /watch?v=2YgrPBTRjMk. You won't find this kind of similarity between the speaking and the singing voice for most of the singers termed countertenor today. That's what makes Oberlin so very unusual. We'd have to take a recording machine back in time to the days of Lully and Purcell(!) to find a greater number of singers as high in both their speaking and singing voices -- and as totally identical(!) -- as Oberlin. It does get confusing, because the term "countertenor" in the last 70 years or so has been promiscuously applied both to the unique case of Oberlin and also to the more familiar type, like a Deller or a Daniels. But confounding the two types is misleading: If you catch the speaking voices of the latter two (fortunately, their speaking voices are also extant), it's clear that they are producing their speaking voices very differently from their singing voices, the former sounding like an ordinary male speaking voice in conversation, but the latter using their treble register instead (sometimes termed their falsetto register). This contrasts with Oberlin's speaking voice (duly linked above) which is identical to his singing sound! Of course, no one, not even a Deller or a Daniels, ever uses their treble register for speaking! It might be less misleading if we were to call the rare Oberlin type "Countertenor" but the more familiar Deller/Daniels type "Treble". Or we might call the latter "countertenor" instead but the former "haute contre", which was indeed the original French term for the Oberlin type back in Lully's day. To use the same term for both types, as has unfortunately been the case for decades now, has caused endless confusion and has proved worse than useless. An Oberlin has about as much connection to a Daniels as a Florez to a Pape!
@eyeshowyou
@eyeshowyou 2 жыл бұрын
Bruno de Sa is also a natural
@mradaChris
@mradaChris 15 жыл бұрын
Well in my case I was ridiculed for sounding like a girl so I stopped singing in the choir and such for about 25 years.
@qzrnuiqntp
@qzrnuiqntp 6 жыл бұрын
What a pity, isn't it? I stopped singing for 6 years, and now I enjoy singing in choirs or little ensembles.
@joemiller6975
@joemiller6975 4 жыл бұрын
Too many young men with beautiful voices of this type are discouraged and ridiculed out of careers and thereby music lovers are robbed of the pleasure of hearing them. A young singer Moises Castillo showed great promise as a male soprano but I have not heard from him or seen anything of him in concerts or uploads on the web in several years now. He seems to have disappeared from the music scene, So this is still going on today. Very sad
@mradaChris
@mradaChris 4 жыл бұрын
@@joemiller6975 I use to communicate with him and always wondered what happened
@mradaChris
@mradaChris 4 жыл бұрын
@@qzrnuiqntp last choir I was in I was in the Alto section. Could have sung in soprano section but I made it easy on myself
@joemiller6975
@joemiller6975 4 жыл бұрын
@@mradaChris He just vanished it seems ,Such a talented young man with so much potential. I am glad to see people like Bruno Da Se and Lionel Stoffel have success .
@robert111k
@robert111k 5 жыл бұрын
A mí los contratenores me dan como grimilla, pero éste canta bastante mejor que la media.
@theleopard9
@theleopard9 12 жыл бұрын
1:02 thank me later :)
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