Russia Cosmonauts finally realized why SpaceX Dragon is better than Soyuz after DAMAGED

[@philburch1970]

If something *seriously* goes wrong, the Dragon only has 4 SEATS, but you can bet that there would be 7 astro/cosmo-nauts inside it. ...and SpaceX originally showcased one with seating for 7. It might be cramped, but they would come down the gravity well packed in like sardines in a can.

[@robertf3479]

Does the Crew Dragon as used today have life support capable of supporting 7 suit hookups? I suspect not.

[@blob537]

@@robertf3479 Even if it did, it's unlikely to have the hookups for Sokol anyway. Which is all they'd have available for re-entry.

[@patrickdurham8393]

​@@robertf3479 Easy enough to send suits up with the dragon. Would only be problematic if the ISS was badly damaged and prevented a suit change.

[@mixmashandtinker3266]

They said it has room for 7. But only 4 will be used in commercial flights. That implies they fairly easy just reinstall the remaining 3.

[@patrickdurham8393]

@@mixmashandtinker3266 They had to eliminate 3 seats to allow the remainder to adjust for g-forces but I don't think anyone would choose death in a vacuum over back problems.

[@zombiesingularity]

Obviously a ship designed in 2022 is going to look better than one designed in the 1970s.

[@alphatech4966]

that's the difference

[@ARockRaider]

Until you look at the Boeing's starliner. That one only looks like it was designed I'm the 1970s.

[@thomasjacques5286]

But why wasn't it updated? They had the time, money, and technology. Or did they?

[@zombiesingularity]

@@thomasjacques5286 because the USSR went away in 1991 and Russia became dirt poor until the mid 2010s.

[@TheJTcreate]

@@zombiesingularitystill dirt poor even after 2010.

[@andycig2993]

Went to the ISS in a Lada. And came home in a Tesla. lol

[@user-di5rm9ee1p]

That lada needs 3-4h to come to iss, tesla needs how much I wonder...

[@jonbbbb]

@@user-di5rm9ee1p 2:05 the earliest that Russia could launch a replacement is February. Where did you get 3-4h??

[@user-di5rm9ee1p]

@@jonbbbb It is time to reach iss, from launch to dock. Record is from 2 years ago, 3h and 3min. Fastest lada in the world. Tesla needs around 36h lol.

[@grahamcook9289]

Reuters is not pronounced rooters, as in hooters, but roy-ters. Reuters is a German name and the German 'eu' diphthong is pronounced 'oy', as in boy.

[@RonLWilson]

One option might be (given an emergency) is to relax the seat angle restriction so that the Dragon could carry seven people. But it seems unlikely that such a modification could be made on the Dragon currently docked on the ISS so it would require sending up an addition Dragon which then would provide the needed extra seating. But in a pinch maybe some make shift mod could be made on the Dragon already docked that might at least give all a chance of surviving even if it may be a risky one. At least it might be worth considering that as an option in case the need should arise one would not be starting on square one in regard to that as an option.

[@madezra64]

The only problem I think could be weight. It's designed for the weight of 4 people in re-entry, not 7. I am curious if the additional weight could have an impact on re-entry velocity. I am sure if something catastrophic were to happen those without a seat would at least like a chance at survival even if it means re-entering without a seat, but that's 3 more people eating up oxygen and expelling CO2. These things are programmed and designed to safely support 4 people independently. That said I am not a rocket scientist and maybe SpaceX built these good enough to hold extra people for a limited time in case of emergency.

[@howard6433]

The main problem is not the seats....you can easily send up another Crew Dragon for those three. The main problem is the life-support interface. The Soyuz uses a much different interface for life support in the capsule than the Crew Dragon. These things supply oxygen, cooling for the suits, etc. The suits the 3 have will not work in Crew Dragon. SpaceX uses customized suits tailored for each passenger individually, so they don't have suits for the 3. I guess SpaceX can send up a Crew Dragon with 3 baggy suits and hope the passengers don't mind the poor fit.

[@robertf3479]

@@howard6433 "So unprofessional, no custom made suit for the evacuees ..." /Sarc For a short term, one time use I wonder if SpaceX engineers could come up with a fast and "dirty" hookup between the Rescue Dragon life support system and the Russian made suits. It only has to be good enough to work for the relatively short period Dragon would have the 3 evacuees aboard for reentry and landing, you don't get extra points for "Slick and Neat." "Good enough" is the winner.

[@RamblingRodeo]

Or have two Dragons attached to the station, of have one dragon attached, while you have the second dedicated on standby to fly within 12-24hrs on the pad?

[@RamblingRodeo]

@@robertf3479 Why NOT just have extra suits ready for the Russians, instead of plugging in or making sometype of adaptor? It makes No sense to make it harder.

[@TonboIV]

I think that if NASA can pull that old Apollo 13 energy, they can get all 7 crew safely home in 1 Dragon if things go really bad. It was designed for 7 originally, so it certainly has the space, and presumably plenty of life support capacity. There's plenty of stuff on the station available to bodge together some kind of seats, even if they're just glorified sacks hanging from the forward bulkhead, and they could probably also come up with improvised adaptors for the life support connects to the Russian suits. In the worst case, 3 crew could go without suits and they could do a very expedited de-orbit.

[@MrNeptunebob]

One thing I never hear mentioned: Why not try to repair Soyuz? News stories refer to the "coolant" that was lost, which I think is actually a refrigerant. It may be possible on a space walk to solder the hole shut and then add more refrigerant (which would have to be launched up, along with a soldering kit or JB Weld). The astronauts would not even have to pump down the system, space is already a vacuum, just "weigh in" how refrigerant to add, then test the system to make sure it works. This repair is done on central air conditioners all the time every day on Earth.

[@howard6433]

They don't know what is broken or what broke it. They've had 3 weeks to trouble-shoot, and still don't know.

[@sparkfighter1]

Surely they are considering this. Surely!

[@sparkfighter1]

@@howard6433 There are no camera views that show where it is broken. They know they sprung a leak but don't know how bad it is because they simply cannot see it.

[@andron967]

Pack it full of trash if it can be flown remotely. Trash isn't easy to get rid of. If they land it then the Russian engineers will at least then know what went wrong. The ISS needs more than one life raft.

[@dzonikg]

@@sparkfighter1 There was news that cameras finded 0.8 mm hole. But can it be fixed ,probably no..you cant buy that coolant in space

[@SliceofLife7777]

I have heard that the Dragon life support systems are not compatible with Russian space suits. SpaceX suits are custom fitted to their respective astronaut. The best solution, considering the time constraints, is for Russia to send up an automated Soyuz to replace the questionable Soyuz in February. In the future, we should have a compatible life boat situation. Perhaps SpaceX could come up with an adapter package that can integrate Russian space suits into the Dragon's life support systems. With Russia's announced intentions to disengage from the ISS project, perhaps this problem will become moot.

[@howard6433]

Or just send up an empty Crew Dragon with 3 ill-fitting, semi-custom suits made by SpaceX. Might not be as comfortable as the custom-fit suits, but it could save their lives.

[@SliceofLife7777]

@@howard6433 Make those suits in a month or so? Maybe won't be necessary. Hopefully the station won't have an emergency in the 40 days(?) necessary for a replacement Soyuz. But in the future, we need the ability to launch a rescue mission, regardless to whatever that Astronaut/Cosmonaut wears. There must be an adapter kit they could rig up. There is a good chance the Dragon could maintain 5psi of cabin pressure all the way down, but the Russians did lose three Cosmonauts in the past during reentery because they were not wearing suits. Risk management is a tough game to play sometimes. Let's hope this is not one of those times. I think everything will be fine. The professionals got this. Launching a rescue mission right now would be overreacting.

[@latemanparodius5133]

For all the people talking about the problem of suits... why not just make an emergency 'space bag' instead? You're on a one-way trip in an emergency situation. Do you really need arm and leg tubes for everyone? Hook up the bag to life support, secure to the interior, then climb inside and seal it up. The ones that do actually have their own suits can do the tasks that need limbs.

[@timothymoroney3561]

Thanks for the insight into Dragon ! Gives one a much better idea of what it must be like to 'fly' aboard her !

[@sparkfighter1]

This is a huge problem, to say the least, But, IMO let's not be too critical of Russia. The Soyuz is the most prolific crewed space system of all space flight. Truly a remarkable craft!

[@sparkfighter1]

IMO, both Russia and SpaceX should attempt to send rescue capsules just to practice for that need.

[@johnbeckwith1361]

@@sparkfighter1 no need for Russia to practice. They will have their Soyuz replaced with the Dragon eventually and Russia will be kicked off of the space station sooner than later unless Putin disappears and Russia apologizes to the world.

[@micpheezer9592]

I wonder how easy the touch screens are to control the vessel during an emergency situation. Especially during Exit and reentry... I would love to see what the actual the display menu scenes look like.

[@itz_lexiii_]

I'd imagine you just have to keep calm. Panic is usually what causes people to die.

[@yourhandlehere1]

They have to plug in their USB joystick...otherwise put it in Arcade mode for keyboard and mouse.

[@JV-pu8kx]

The crew are trained for manual flight.

[@yourhandlehere1]

@@JV-pu8kx Ain't no steering wheel. And that's going to make for some bad movies in the future. Instead of somebody sweating, gripping a stick and trying to pull out of a dive or something.... Elevator music, scrolling through settings, oh wait...Windows Emergency needs an update...would you like to restart the Dragon now?

[@magie3490]

I found it very interessting, that the crew dragon is pictured as more reliable than the sous at the start of the video and from there on he presents pure cosmetics. The sous fail once in what? 40 years? Prof to me that crew dragon can achiv the same.

[@MoKhera]

When things are rushed - people make mistakes. There's plenty of time to get a dragon ready - unless we want another disaster.

[@Relkond]

People almost certainly want a plan B. plan A is get a replacement craft up there to recover the cosmonauts. possibly, package it as a cargo flight with seats for a crewed return flight, and turn the damaged return craft into cargo. Plan B is ‘we need out of orbit inside of 2 hours, how do we get everyone down with minimal risks?’ You don’t want to use the plan B, but life sometimes demands things from you that you don’t want. Better to have the plan B and not use it, than to need the plan B and not have it.

[@rice0009]

My understanding is that part of the problem is the lack of custom fitted SpaceX space suits for anyone that didn't arrive on a Dragon Capsule. The passengers would not have access to life support or be able to control the capsule since it would require a gloved hand that is capable of using the touch screen controls.

[@papafrank7094]

I'm sure some hack could build an adapter for the life support and other attached systems and an overglove for their current gloves to adapt to the touchscreen controls.

[@latemanparodius5133]

Simple solution: Make an emergency... not quite a 'space suit' so much as a 'space bag'. Connect to life support, climb inside and seal. It's not for controlling anything, but for pure survival. Perhaps have attachment points on the outside of the bag so that the ones in suits can secure it to the interior in some way. It may not be fancy, but it would be as universal as you could get, which would be important for a GTFO situation in space.

[@tomardans4258]

Suddenly no one can pronounce Reuters.

[@JMHTruck32005]

I thought it was just me...

[@alphatech4966]

Thanks. We will try to fix this in the next time

[@jjeshop]

Hillbillies are very limited in what they can pronounce.

[@guyjordan8201]

Robo-readers are awful. Talking heads are bad enough but this is worse.

[@keithb7981]

It appears to me that this sudden shift to mispronouncing Reuters is due to the fact that I and thousands of others have been recently posting and making it very clear that Reuters is owned and controlled by the Rothschilds genocidal lizard Clan and that Reuters is the parent company of AP and that virtually all Western news reporting is taken from what Reuters or AP reports rights or disseminates all under the orders of the Rothschild's lizard clan period it seems that in the last several weeks virtually all of the voice to text programs such as the one on my cell phone and most cell phones have been subversively altered along with virtually all of the semi AI robotic voice programs used on internet postings to mispronounce Reuters to subvert the connection in the minds of the public period just more new world order raw child genocide aluminati BS, fully intentional

[@suserman7775]

1:48. The Reuters news agency is not pronounced "ROO ters"; it's pronounced "ROY ters".

[@doriWyo]

So SpaceX could send a four seat Dragon, unmanned, or with one astronaut. BUT, how would they construct Dragon suits for the Soyuz crew? Could they create adapters for the Soyuz suits? This isn't going to be easy!

[@madezra64]

I guess it all depends on the emergency. If it's life or death get off the ISS, the suits wouldn't necessarily inhibit you from hitching a joy ride inside. They are really only meant to provide temporary protection if the capsule starts to depressurize which wouldn't be long if they about to re-enter. Obviously those without a suit would be in extreme danger and probably die, but at least they had a fighting chance to get off the station.

[@DClark-xu8wy]

3D printed adapters for Life supports systems??

[@Jeff55369]

You're acting like the unmanned vehicle can't carry a load. Just send up the extra suits with the craft. And you might as well load it up as much as you can while you're at it so you make the most use of the fuel.

[@brianorca]

I'm sure Russia's space agency has their measurements. It might not be a tailored fit, but it would work.

[@ralphm6901]

One Agency could send several sets of suit connectors to the other Agency, to fabricate a short cable/hose section to join with their own connectors. If they're sending up a whole spacecraft to bring a crew back, it won't be going up empty, and the supplies it carries could include a crate of those cross-connectors to store on the ISS for emergencies.

[@daniels7907]

They don't have extra seats on the ISS to install into the Dragon already docked there. Also, the Russian spacesuits are not compatible with Dragon's life support. That's why the Dragon on station cannot bring everybody back. If they sent another Dragon up, they would need to include SpaceX spacesuits tailored for the American and two Russians.

[@alphatech4966]

Right. But in case Russia can't do this, that's the only way left

[@Jorhanbear]

Why do so many people hype Space X without doing research on things like... safety features, practical applications... etc...

[@divedevil985]

Thought you were going to say why Dragon was better? As long as it re-enters and lands with 2,000 lbs of hypergols onboard it is NOT better than Soyuz.

[@ARWest-bp4yb]

While Soyuz has a long history of carrying humans to space, it's probably time to give it some upgrades. During the 30 years of the shuttle program the orbiters were continuously overhauled, especially when it came to transitioning onboard systems from the original analog to digital.

[@alphatech4966]

Exactly. Everything become outdated when the time pass

Chimps.

[@suserman7775]

I don't think there's ANY point to expendable systems anymore. Fully reusable systems like Starship are game changers. I wouldn't invest any cash in expendable stuff.

[@dswp4882]

I can prove dozens of those STS missions were fraudulent- let me guess, your belief in all things Hoax also caused you to roll up your sleeve for the clownsauce injection, right? RIGHT?

[@punishedfoxo]

They can start by entirely designing a new space craft from the ground up.

[@lotuselansteve]

$55m compared to £89m is not a 50% reduction, it's 41%. 89 would have to be 110 for the discount to be 50%

[@alphatech4966]

Thanks your caculation. I will find more about this

[@Lucinda666]

SpaceX is very warmhearted company.

[@alphatech4966]

Is this good?

[@salec7592]

if there is ever a real and desperate need for an intervention in flight of a capsule, and if that need may arise in parallel with dire worsening of environmental conditions, such as partial power failure, high vibrations, smoke inside capsule, high G force, then in those situations you would rather have a sturdy mechanical interface with tactile feedback instead of overhead reach-and touch visual panels you wouldn't be able to read, or extend a hand to reach. But I guess that in fore-mentioned circumstances there would be nothing the crew could do anyway, and these are just distractions for the Laikas on board to not panic.

[@machoopichoo2]

"Spam in a can."

[@shrikedecil]

Note that there are some buttons and switches below the screen - probably picked out on precisely that though path.

[@richardbenjamin8535]

I said it before and I will say it again. The Space-X Dragon capsule is C-R-E-W-E-D! The Boeing Starliner and the Soyuz capsules are just plain C-R-U-D-E!!!!!!!

[@alexvives1335]

Clever wordplay

[@richlo8887]

PREACH IT, BROTHER!!!!

[@Bruhza5870]

I'm sorry but I don't agree with the Soyuz part

[@uberdang830]

@Carlos Alcazarbarson it is crude. But crude in my book isn't bad. NASA back in the Saturn 5 days tried to keep things the lest complex as possible. The more complexities the more point of failure.

[@richlo8887]

@@uberdang830 Soyuz is crude and cramped. Starliner is crude and shity!

[@calvingreene90]

A compromised Soyuz or a quickly modified cargo Dragon. I'd take the cargo Dragon.

[@alphatech4966]

👍👍👍👍

[@scottweidt9144]

Can you do a video about how 2nd and 3rd stage engines ignite. Soo much goes into ignition on a first stage, many difficulties. Always wondered about that.

[@badgimp4577]

The only trouble with using a Dragon capsule is they are designed to fit people with the slimer space x space suits, not the bulky Russian suits.

[@michaelmurray2595]

Great video: many thnaks.

[@HabitualButtonPusher]

If it is to be solely used as a permanent lifeboat, screw the comfort and space and cram 3 more seats in at the proper angle. I’m sure any cosmonaut or astronaut will be good with being shoehorned into a seat rather than being left behind.

[@ReiseLukas]

Dream Chaser is severely needed rn

[@whirledpeaz5758]

It would be truly impressive if SpaceX is already emergency prioritizing to ready a Crew Dragon for launch, and say "We'll figure out the billing later. This is a critical safety issue."

[@ARockRaider]

That idea is understandable, but at the same time both countries involved can afford it and should be the ones saying that, but In a "we have payment now and won't try to haggle" way.

[@baldieman64]

The simple fact is that any major accident in space has the potential to delay Elon's Mars ambitions, even if it's not an accident involving SpaceX.

[@herrensaar1989]

@@baldieman64 Not really. The Starship team is working 100% independent from the falcon 9 crew, that is again independent from the Dragon/payload department.

[@russell2449]

They'd have to be crazy to attempt to bring humans back in a damaged capsule, smh, they definitely need to go ahead with the SpaceX option for the safety of these brave astronauts ;?)

[@dzonikg]

Just a wonder how something from movie Gravity did not happen in real life yet

[@andron967]

The Russian capsule is definitely crude. But maybe that's a good thing. Especially in a life raft mission. It's job is to sit there long term at the ready. It has to be tough and simple. What happens with all of Dragon's computers in a bad solar storm? I'm thinking a big flare.

[@bruceatkinson5357]

Do you really have inside technical knowledge of what impact a solar event would have on either ship?

[@bruceatkinson5357]

The Soyuz docked there now can't be used for humans. So, it's not a life boat.

[@dzonikg]

@@bruceatkinson5357 IT probably can..would be little hotter but still not dangerous to die..and they wear suits. But off course no one want to take a chance

[@bruceatkinson5357]

@@dzonikg NASA won't use it.

[@КалоянКрумов-г8у]

After hundreds and hundreds successful Soyuz missions and technical Soyuz superiority in every way, now one of a audden Space X is better??? That's a downright overstatement!

[@NeilFiertel]

Your naive patriotism amuses me. I watched the tech from the beginning and one must be impressed by all who venture into the high tech engineering for rockets and returning at the velocities and dangers of return and launch. Technologies improve and Space X is very impressive and modern and patriotic nonsense aside it is much cheaper, reusable and the future. In any case, western democracies are not exactly happy or trusting with Russian fascism.

[@MarkBarrett]

SpaceX has completely different prerogatives than Russia.

[@RustedCroaker]

yeah they are busy with the DoD founded Starlink to strip the least piece of privacy we had

[@gregggoldstein3449]

True. Concider the fact that each space suit has to be custom fit for each launch. Which ever crew member boards the life boat must have on a custom fit Life Suit to use it. In addition the crew dragon capsule must have some sort of protective shielding of it’s own while exposed to the cold vacuum of space and exposure to the heat of the sun penetrating the capsule. And the occasional collision with launch debris from earlier missions in space. Crude as Soyuz is what other options are there? How does Transparent Aluminum fare against high orbit paint chips? Since it’s discovery from science fiction to science fact, has it been tested on F-22 Raptors being struck by birds? It’s composite is lighter than heavy insulated bullet proof glass. Could this material shield a Crew Dragon Escape Pod? And Kevlar? a meterial that absorbs the energy of a bullet from penetrating the fibers? In the 70’s we deployed a space fsring crewless ship to analyse different metals and materials snd left it in orbit for a year or so. We learned much from these samples that were struck by micro meteors. Perhaps we can reproduce the same tests with newer impact resistant materials to learn more. Elon Musk no doubt could simplify what these crude space crafts can teach us.

[@robertf3479]

"Which ever crew member boards the life boat must have on a custom fit Life Suit to use it." Why custom fit? In an emergency, a "lifeboat" Dragon should be able to bring up suits intended to keep the evacuee alive for the several hours needed to undock from the station and reenter the atmosphere. It should be worthwhile to keep a selection of suits in various sizes available on the ground (S, M, L, XL) for the evacuating crew to don. What is needed is a suit that holds breathable atmosphere at the proper pressure and that hooks into the capsule life support system. If the suit happens to be larger than needed (a large or XL for a petite female for example,) large enough is good enough. Keeping them alive has to take precedence over comfort. And for "waste management," adult diapers would work for this rather than whatever "plumbing" a custom suit might have.

[@stevens9625]

​@@robertf3479 KZbin what a space suit is required to do before you think a space life suit can be done by an air tight jumpsuit with helmet like in scif-fi movies. There's a reason just the gloves alone will cost more than your house.

[@overkillphil514]

Tell the iss to measure the crew members without spacex space suits and have them made to measure. Send them up with a new crew dragon.

[@logtothebase2]

SpaceX would have to make custom compatible suits for each of the astro/cosmonauts to use the capsule, without the possibility of an in person fitting, likely not quick to do, I hope they have tape measure on the station. Given that a Soyuz spaceship was first sent to space over half a century ago, it, s done OK.

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent work bro

[@alphatech4966]

😈😈😈😈😈 ❤❤❤❤

[@earth2006]

Biggest question is connections. Russians space suits are very different from SpaceX's. Can an adapter for those connections be made in time. What will be the reactions of the Russians to water landing ?

[@Claude_van]

There’s no water in Russia.

[@yourhandlehere1]

Duct tape, chewing gum and toilet paper tubes...we got it.

[@clarencehopkins7832]

Excellent stuff bro,

[@alphatech4966]

Thanks!

[@duomaxwell2293]

knowing spacex, only reason they haven't commented yet, is coz they are working on designing a multi person escape vehicle for ISS

[@rogeliosalgado]

It's not fair to compare a spaceship fom1967 with another one from 2020

[@TonyP9279]

Remember years back when Musk asked Russia if he could use their rockets and they said "No"?

[@alphatech4966]

Haha, Musk will not be so selfish.

[@RustedCroaker]

I don't remember that. Please elaborate

[@VTX00128]

​@@RustedCroaker He was trying to find a viable way to startup for SpaceX and was thinking of using one of the nuclear ballistic missiles for a starter rocket to SpaceX before going in house and at the time of asking Russians laughed at him thinking he was nuts. Well who's laughing now.

[@crabbcake]

all the crew can still escape - with ppl remaining after the others left & the Soyuz isolated it can either be temporarily depressurized/pressurized to board or they can enter it wearing a suit. Its a lot more likely they would find a way to use the capsule if the station was being evacuated that sit there wondering what to do. Management NEVER improvises a solution and they LOVE problems like this because it is an opportunity to say 'something is needed' and get more money for the project.

[@moshe4yeshua]

I'm wondering what the thoughts were of the first Roscosmos astraunaut to fly on Dragon. Has she commented?

[@williamnot8934]

They would have to be very careful of what they said . The AntiChrist will be listening. They would have experienced Shock and Awe with the realisation that their Space Program was still Mid 20th. Century while US Space Program was hurtling towards the 22nd. Century.

[@dzonikg]

There is more American cars on Russian roads then Russian and Chines combine

[@straighttalk2069]

This isn't the first time that the ISS had insufficient lifeboat capability 3:26 it's just the first time that they aren't willing to risk the lives of crew.

[@warrenjm9]

SpaceX could control the entire flight from ground operations, just like they do for all the resupply missions and most of the manned missions. And there should be enough detailed physical measurements on file for the astronauts to allow some level of suit customization for each of the cosmonauts. Finally, if SpaceX is even close to being as innovative as they claim to be, this shouldn't be a huge hurdle. So they need to schedule an additional flight under special circumstances. I'm sure they've already have planning and a majority of the engineering done (at least theoretically) as it has been a topic of discussion to do exactly this kind of thing for a number of years. In the 60s, stories were written about how to rescue stranded astronauts, even if it was written in the SciFi genre. I'm sure there are some pretty advanced "What if?" scenarios already under discussion. If not, there sure has been pretty aggressive talk about how good SpaceX really is.

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

Wasn't the Dragon initially designed to carry seven? Not ideal but in an emergency all seven could leave on board one space craft.

[@mikeober9773]

Yes, but the final design only supports four seats.

[@brianorca]

7 was proposed when it had a propulsive landing, which would have a more gentle landing. With the switch to parachutes and a splashdown, the seats needed a different angle to protect the astronauts' backs during the splash.

[@tunejunky]

NASA has had a problem with the genius idea that went along w/ 7 seats - retro rockets using the emergency escape thrusters. they didn't like people right next to an engine...rockets do go boom after all... so as said even with 4 seats it's a winner.

[@RamblingRodeo]

Then place two Dragon escape vehicles on the station, get rid of the Russian portion! Or, have one on the station and one on alert to fly and ready to go within 12-24hrs on the pad?

[@thexfile.]

I thought that the Dragon needed hookups for the SpaceX spacesuits?

[@jasonpatterson8091]

Wow, I guess we know the level of spacex fanboydom here. Spacex dreams of the day that it can claim to have a vehicle of any sort that is more successful than the Soyuz, which is literally the most reliable human rated space vehicle ever produced. The Soyuz has run successfully almost 1700 times. There have only been 3 failures in its entire career (1975, 1985, and 2018), all at launch, none with fatalities. This one was hit by a piece of debris traveling at orbital speeds and damaged - that has nothing to do with its quality. If a Dragon capsule's cooling system had been hit by a similar piece of debris, it would have been damaged. The reason that they asked if there was a Dragon available is because that is what the US is using right now. It's an international space station, if the Russian side unexpectedly fails due to orbital debris, it makes perfect sense to ask their international partner whether they can assist.

[@victorkrawchuk9141]

I'm sure SpaceX isn't happy about being asked to bail-out the Soyuz cosmonauts, because they would probably have to use the Crew Dragon capsule that's scheduled to be launched on the Crew-6 mission in mid-February 2023. They'd probably have to launch it early with just one astronaut, leaving three seats empty for the cosmonauts. I'm sure they'd need at least one crew member who has the necessary training in Crew Dragon, otherwise it could be a big operational risk. They would also have to make custom-fit suits for the cosmonauts without the benefit of measuring them in-person. These suits have to fit exactly for them to work properly. I would prefer to let the Russians send up a replacement Soyuz. Even if they had to wait until mid-February to launch it, this is probably only a couple of weeks later than SpaceX could reasonably send a Crew Dragon.

[@WilderManize]

no everyone works together in space. dragon bailing out soyuz is great for PR as well!

[@shakilsayed490]

I don’t quite agree with that point although valid. It’s a chance Sx got to prove that they can be versatile. It’s a chance for Sx to show they are ready for contingency in space. It’s a small start but in the future not far away, with 10s or 100s of people in space at one time there is bound to be more emergencies. What needs to be rethought soon is that custom made space suit thing.

[@victorkrawchuk9141]

@@WilderManize The PR would be great, but SpaceX has to consider its available resources. Perhaps NASA should ultimately decide - would they agree to SpaceX sending a Crew Dragon lifeboat to the ISS, if this can only be done by effectively cancelling the Crew-6 mission in February? When would the displaced Crew-6 astronauts then fly to the ISS? Would they be re-assigned to the Crew-7 mission, with Crew-7 astronauts then being reassigned to Crew-8, etc? Or, will they add an entirely new Crew Dragon mission to the ISS, augmenting the contract with NASA? Who will pay for this whatever happens?

[@victorkrawchuk9141]

@@shakilsayed490 I'm copying what I just replied to Curufinwë, since you both had similar responses to my comment - The PR would be great, but SpaceX has to consider its available resources. Perhaps NASA should ultimately decide - would they agree to SpaceX sending a Crew Dragon lifeboat to the ISS, if this can only be done by effectively cancelling the Crew-6 mission in February? When would the displaced Crew-6 astronauts then fly to the ISS? Would they be re-assigned to the Crew-7 mission, with Crew-7 astronauts then being reassigned to Crew-8, etc? Or, will they add an entirely new Crew Dragon mission to the ISS, augmenting the contract with NASA? Who will pay for this whatever happens?

[@blengi]

SpaceX can ask the cosmonauts to do western promotional videos about the superiority of SpaceX's 21st century Dragon "space rescue" capsule that saved their lives and let them tearfully say how they are now afraid to fly in that piece of soviet era junk.....

[@terrycooper4149]

The one thing I wonder about SpaceX is that the touch screen technology (glass cockpit) might be more vulnerable to solar flares compared to more conventional approach. I don't know how well they are radiation hardened.

[@shrikedecil]

They don't spell things out completely, but let me spitball. There's three main damage issues: Flat-out overload, mechanical strike, or the bit-flipping of a stray ray. If I'm doing it, every one of the three screens **can** pull up every single thing the other two can. Imagine each screen as actually an iPad/Android/Surface with separate apps for Nav/Dock/Astronomy/Systems/etc. Not at the same time, but still "can". This makes overload/direct damage to controls much less relevant, because it has to hit not one, but **all three** screens to do that job. And there might be another packed somewhere as "Emergency Spare" - even if that emergency spare is something like a 7" iPad. Bitflipping is more likely, but also more irrelevant. They're screens. Flipping a pixel or three is irrelevant. It's the brains that matter there, and those could be anywhere. (And are probably still doing the Apollo-era multi-computers that can vote to have a confused computer reboot at will.) It makes the old Star Treks (and all things space sf) silly looking back.

[@JayRSwan]

They have had 20 years of testing shielding in the ISS

[@Relkond]

Ideally the glass cockpit there is strictly UI - that is, it just reports on and manages what systems embedded in the walls are doing. Pair that with redundant functionality of the tablets/panels, and they become fairly redundant. hopefully the low level hardware (cpus/ram) in the tablets are space rated - they’re being used in space and to control critical systems…

[@nommchompsky]

As long as they stay in low Earth orbit solar flares aren't much of a concern because they are still protected by the magnetophere. It might be a problem if they tried a Moon shot, but I doubt they'll ever send Dragon that far

[@madezra64]

@@shrikedecil Yeah you can bet that the actual CPUs and memory banks are heavily rad hardened and tucked away behind plenty of shielding and hermetically sealed. It would probably take a solar event with the strength to kill everyone inside the capsule to also affect the processors and memory.

[@hallkbrdz]

In an emergency, I suspect SpaceX could get a crew dragon launched in a few days, given the rapid turn-around possible with the boosters.

[@toddkes5890]

Launched, yes. The key is to get it to rendezvous with the ISS in time so the ISS personnel can evacuate. One way to reduce this time needed might be setting up a giant net that the personnel can deploy to catch the Dragon Capsule, so they can shove themselves inside the Dragon Capsule ASAP. Of course this will likely involve the net getting tangled around the ISS, which will lead to future problems.

[@matthewmccarter3284]

Hopefully no problem will arise. But astronauts understand the inherent danger in their profession. Good luck to all.

[@alphatech4966]

We had a solution for this

[@LeongGunners]

Isn't it a given that a brand new craft will be better than something that was designed at least 30 years ago?

[@richlo8887]

The Russians have known that Crew Dragons was better since Demo 2! 🤣

[@grindelston5968]

Very nice video

[@jimparr01Utube]

While I have been rather disillusioned with Nasa in the recent past, it appears that they and SpaceX are developing a very productive synergistic relationship in respect of both commercial and engineering progress. Long may it continue...

[@koczisek]

Sudden leaks are very important and desired drivers of progress.

[@hermansnoddy4578]

Isn't the leak part of the service module which is jettesoned before rentery ? Couldn't they do a quicker reentry so the wouldn't have to rely on the service module

[@allanchurm]

good luck subscribed ..

[@garybotha6744]

trampoline works as intended...

[@mixmashandtinker3266]

I love the fact that US, Russia and China are all cooperating in the name of science. In disregard of earthly current affair.

[@uss-dh7909]

Just wait until we're confident enough to start declaring conquests. Yeah, we're cooperating for now but that's likely because we're all being forced to share the same rock together and know how easily we can screw things up for everyone else.

[@stevenblackwell4903]

China is cooperating?

[@Snoodlehootberry]

Great video, thank you so much, always good to keep up with what’s going on space news and you do

[@alphatech4966]

Thanks your huge support!! ♥♥♥

[@mikecrane6096]

Why is the SpaceX better than Soyuz after Soyuz was struck and damaged by space debris? Granted, the Soyuz crew compartment is so cramped they have to use sticks to push the buttons on the MIP. So the SpaceX rig is more roomy, but Soyuz has a much longer safety record at this point. SpaceX could have a similar disaster at any time. There would be NO such stranding of crew if NASA stopped wasting all their time and money jumping through every "Diversity" hoop and get the fn X-38 done and have one or two parked at ISS for exactly the problem the Soyuz is posing.

[@MYOB990]

If only we had a vehicle that was designed to be an astronaut taxi, simple, and cheap. Hmmm...something like a man rated Dream Chaser? Hopefully people won't die due to the bureaucrats at NASA making bad decisions.

[@kinikinrd]

or a Space Shuttle....

[@randywise5241]

Why not use Dragon and supper heavy to build a new station and a ship to mars in space?

[@wmason1961]

Building commercial space stations is currently included in NASAs plans. Dragon will be a big part of that.

[@alphatech4966]

Starship can be a Station but it need to work well first

[@johnbeckwith1361]

Launch a few Starships to orbit, connect them together and bam...a space station with propulsion and fuel to go to mars.....

[@chitoon100]

they would steel all the property.....Hell no

[@535tony]

Russia will never allow their Cosmonauts to be “rescued” by an American Space craft.

[@ChrisSprenger.]

I’d definitely feel safe in the space x. So clean snd safe. Russia must be butt hurt lolol the space x fleet looks so fresh an comfy ! Movies are turning real !

[@hugochan2821]

If space X nailed the technology and pricing to Mars, everyone would like to visit Mars using star ship.

[@johnedwards1321]

1:49 "rooters." It's " ROY-ters."

[@vebnew]

WELL YES

[@JustinWillisDevil240Z]

Fledgling Dragon is better than Soyuz? Soyuz has been in service since 1967. Maybe give SpaceX a few more times to find the fatal flaws it surely has.

[@chrissouthgate4554]

Why not send a 2nd Dragon?

[@prmath]

The leak…..why can’t a spacewalking astronaut just put a self tapping screw in the hole? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@rbspider]

We are 20 something days away from February . If something happened on the space station tomorrow could we get there ? I bet someday going to Mars will be equivalent to $199.00 , who knows how we will travel in 3550. You might just hop on a shuttle docked at a space terminal or from a moon base . To say $500K is like pulling a rabbit out of a hat. I bet one thing, all us us will be long gone before that happens . It's been 53 years since we flew to the moon and back . We are one disaster away from shutting everything down again. JMO

[@Rosarium2007]

51 years since the last Moon landing. Less than two months since an un-crewed human rated spacecraft passed by the moon twice.

[@RustedCroaker]

I'll will take two separate rooms of Soyuz over a singe one of Dragon any day. Hate to shit in front of anyone.

[@mikeking7470]

No real content on WHY the Dragon is better?

[@bruceatkinson5357]

To help out the Russians should cost them 2 x $89 million per seat - the same they charged to ride their rocket.

[@jcantuba]

12 mm debris hit the ship damage the heat exchanger that why

[@vibrolax]

In a real escape-now-or-die scenario, all seven ISS crew members can pile into the Dragon in their underwear (clown car style) and splash down. The space suits and all that are just insurance against depressurization.

[@claude31400]

A Tesla car is better that a Tin Lizzie! You said that a new space vehicule is better thant a old. OF COURSE !

[@SideWalkAstronomyNetherlands]

There is no "koepers" named Dutch astronaut, there is Andree Kuijpers with an ui, totally different sound than oe...do your home work mr speaker...

[@jeffhallel8211]

Soyuz later, Agitator. Elon may be posting some tweets about this fiasco.

[@VG_164]

The problem with the Soyuz is not with its design, but with degrading quality control and funding when building it. You're being quite disingenuous here.

[@georgeb9651]

No matter what you think about mr. Musk Elon is one brilliant person when it comes to science and business

[@PushingThroughThePain]

Glad SpaceX is doing so well, but did they have to make their dragon capsule look like a klan hood??? 😮‍💨

[@damnsong8675309]

Just give the ISS astronauts a M.O.O.S.E. each. Problem "solved".

[@lindyhoppingfool]

Nice video. Thank you STEM personnel at Space X. Please weather the Elon Storm and Stay Strong.

[@johnbeckwith1361]

What "Elon storm"? You mean the part where free speech is restored to Twitter and Leftist show their true Communist colors?

[@lindyhoppingfool]

@@johnbeckwith1361 ha ha ha ha sorry I just can't stop laughing.

[@ItsEverythingElse]

So Dragon is micrometeorite-proof?

[@joshuamoore24_7]

They should try to repair the Soyuz and send it back with no one on board or leave it connected to the ISS if it doesn't pose a threat to the ISS. Maybe they will use the Dragon X or Artemis 1 to return the crew of the Soyuz 🌎🚀💫🛰️

[@rbrtck]

What's the big deal about launching astronauts from American soil? Russia doesn't even launch their astronauts from Russian soil. I know what you mean, though. 😉

[@msb3235]

Wow! Congratulations USA for winning the 2nd round space race.

[@ojonasar]

Roy-ters.