Russian Aircraft Losses in the 2008 Georgian War, Part 1

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Showtime112

Showtime112

Күн бұрын

In August 2008, a war broke out between Georgian government forces and the breakaway province of South Ossetia. Russia immediately joined in on the side of the latter. Russian Air Force was heavily involved flying close air support, interdiction and other types of sorties. It also experienced heavy losses in this short conflict. How many aircraft were downed, which types were they and which weapons were used against them? Find out in this video.
DCS World with its Caucasus map enables this historical reenactment on real geographic locations.
Sources:
- The Tanks of August (Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, 2010)
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- Alexander Mladenov - Osprey Combat Aircraft 109 - Su-25 'Frogfoot' Units In Combat
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- Russian TV reports on a 'Georgian' Su-25 shot down
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- Georgian TV report about a Russian Su-24 shot down
• Сбитый самолет российс...
- Russian Su-24 shot down footage
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@ritabratagoswami7724
@ritabratagoswami7724 2 жыл бұрын
One of the Su-25 was landed in airfield after being hit by Igla. It's left engine was damaged and flew on the right.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
There were actually three Su-25s seriously damaged in this conflict. There will be talk about that in the next part.
@fretlessed25
@fretlessed25 2 жыл бұрын
There's a very interesting clip of a Russian MIG-29 shooting down a Georgian drone on youtube. Rare as the drone captured the flight of the incoming missile until it was destroyed. Also some pics out there of the Russians taking US Humvees that were due to be shipped back to the US after a joint exercise, and pics of them destroying a large cache of US supplied M-4 rifles the Georgians had. Not taking a side in this- just interesting video and pics to look up if you follow the recent conflict in the region.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that drone video.Might look it up, seems interesting.
@myopicthunder
@myopicthunder 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 I posted it on r/combatfootage a few years ago when that site wasn't crawling with propaganda bots
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@myopicthunder Thanks for the info.
@JohnWick-yh5kn
@JohnWick-yh5kn 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Možeš li da uradiš obaranje F-177 u Buđanovcimai '99.Poz iz Crne Gore
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@JohnWick-yh5kn Pozdrav! To je u dugoročnom planu, moram doći do više informacija.
@araynortassadore3056
@araynortassadore3056 2 жыл бұрын
Great creative format using DCS to reenact modern conflicts. We see these machines showcased at airshows all over the world but many don't realize how many air engagements and casualties occurred since ww2 in modern conflicts.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! You've got a good point. There are so many 'forgotten' conflicts where military aviation was used.. I discover new things all the time.
@Tamburello_1994
@Tamburello_1994 2 жыл бұрын
Look at you, Mr. Combined Arms. Well done. I do believe this will be a "must have" module as I have been a big fan of it since I started playing DCS World. Like I told you before, hit a bros if you need a trigger man. Another thing: extra points for using the regular Frogfoot! I hate that "T" version, I don't care if it carries a wider array of armament. I'm old school all the way. 10 /10. Jolly good show, mate. Be well.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this positive feedback! I agree Su-25 is highly underrated. It's not fancy but it does a great job. I'm especially fond of types that were involved in a lot of real fighting.
@adamradziwill
@adamradziwill Жыл бұрын
edit : Moscow Aircraft Losses in the 2008 Moscow colonial War against Georgian state, Part 1
@showtime112
@showtime112 Жыл бұрын
I suppose you could call it that way.
@sudipghosh7059
@sudipghosh7059 2 жыл бұрын
শুধু মাত্র রাশিয়ান প্লেন ই ক্র্যাশ হয় সটডাউন হয় ডিটিএস এ। খুব ভালো।
@defence-zone7826
@defence-zone7826 2 жыл бұрын
The TU-22M3 is my Favourite Bomber Plane of all time. My second Favourite is the Tupolev TU-160 (or as designated by NATO-Blackjack). My 3rd Most Favourite Bomber Of all time is the "B-2" Stealth bomber. Bombers are my Most Favourite after the Fighter type Aircrafts(like in e.g . F-15, F-16, Gripen, SU-30 SM, SU-27, SU-57) , Helicopters (Like Apache, MI-24 etc).
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing.
@defence-zone7826
@defence-zone7826 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 you are welcome sir. Have a nice day ahead.
@ruskyrosco1054
@ruskyrosco1054 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite bomber ju88, favorite prop fighter spitfire, favorite jet f14 tomcat. Great comment had to share mine.
@defence-zone7826
@defence-zone7826 2 жыл бұрын
@@ruskyrosco1054 🤠
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 2 жыл бұрын
As we go into the third millennium BC, it looks to me that manned aircraft are doomed. All manner of drones and missiles will wipe out slow thanking human pilots. Automation and artificial intelligence will rule the day.
@jastafan6937
@jastafan6937 2 жыл бұрын
When both sides shared the very same weapons, same tactics it turned immidiately to an icredible mess no wonder there was some friendly fire incident! another fantastic job Showtime 112 can't wait to see the next part!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! You are right, battle is confusing enough even when two sides use different equipment, let alone like this.
@oveidasinclair982
@oveidasinclair982 2 жыл бұрын
That TU22 must have really been blasted by that SAM for only one of four men to survive
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
So it seems. One of the reasons I'm more inclined to believe that it was SA-11 which is a bigger missile than SA-8.
@richardwolf8024
@richardwolf8024 2 жыл бұрын
When both sides use the same equipment and weapons, mix ups will occur. "Is that one of ours or one of theirs?" "I don't know. Shoot anyway, just in case."
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
True. Insignia is almost impossible to recognize from the ground.
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 GROM missiles are being updated with IFF after Georgian war
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@hphp31416 Thanks for sharing that info!
@cademosley4886
@cademosley4886 2 жыл бұрын
You know a game has good graphics when it simulates a scene that actually has live video made of it, and you can't tell that the live video isn't still part of the game.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@updidi
@updidi 2 жыл бұрын
You should have mentioned that the georgian troops in August 2008 not only attacked South Ossetia but also attacked the russian peacekeeping forces. This is a direct casus belli. But you didn't do it
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow, I doubt that this was really a go/no go condition for the Russians to get themselves involved.
@updidi
@updidi 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 From the point of view of international law and common sense, this is 100% a casus belli. I'm talking about international law adopted by the UN and not about the right to bomb anything and everything with impunity from the point of view of the USA and NATO
@updidi
@updidi 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 As a result of the attack by the georgian troops, 12 russian soldiers were killed, and the Russian peacekeeping contingent fought in the encirclement. Is this not a reason for war?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Unless it is just Russian BS. Even if those attacks really happened, that wasn't the main motive. Just an excuse.
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 2 жыл бұрын
@@updidi those peacekeepers had violated their neutrality
@_BillyTheKid_
@_BillyTheKid_ 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent overview.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@HitAndMissLab
@HitAndMissLab 2 жыл бұрын
So watching few of your Russians in Georgia videos one can only come to conclude that Russians shot more of their own warplanes then their enemies did? Nice to know.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
In this war, it is true. I doubt it's the same in the current one.
@explosivefreak666
@explosivefreak666 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly fire, isn't....Also, Néver fly with someone braver than yourself.!
@RobbieCalifornia69
@RobbieCalifornia69 2 ай бұрын
It’s scary how easily a super modern, very expensive, airplane can be brought down by a MANPAD. Every mission you have to be thinking … this could be my last.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 ай бұрын
As a lover of military aviation, I actually hate these things :)
@savamomirovic4439
@savamomirovic4439 2 жыл бұрын
Look at that great cockpit of Su-25! Great video.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another feedback!
@PHneverwhere
@PHneverwhere 2 жыл бұрын
South Ossetian just trying their best "Get's second friendly fire"
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 11 ай бұрын
I was in Iraq when this happened. I was coming back to Iraq from leave. I saw some delta guys getting ready to get on the aircraft. They were wearing different camo patterns. I said they are going somewhere different. One of them smiled at me. I am not saying that it is where they were going. It seemed very odd DELTA guys who were operating in the desert would be wearing a woodland camo.
@showtime112
@showtime112 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing the experience. It's not unthinkable that the guys you saw were planning to get themselves involved in this.
@lukameliqidze8493
@lukameliqidze8493 2 жыл бұрын
my dad told me he was in war ofc he is georgian one morning when we went outside he saw a russian bomber bombing little villige general told my dad and other soldiers to hide in mud so they did after some time second plane came in they started bombing my dad said they couldn't hear anything bcs it was so loud after some minutes some guys on motorbike came by they were georgians they had rockets they hided for some seconds and started smoking my dad was watching all of this after some time planes came back again so those 2 guys took out rockets BAM and shoot they got one plane pilot survived tho he was coming down by parachute some my dad started shooting them but they were too far so he missed all after they started reloading second plane flew those 2 guy sat in motorbike again and went to location where those pilot fell my dad told me when they find them he had injuries he had hit in leg he was crying after some talking he told my dad and soldiers he was 27 yrs old im not gonna say name from russia idk what happened after that
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing!
@nonamenobody127
@nonamenobody127 2 жыл бұрын
The Su-25 is an exceptionally tenacious aircraft... A worthy descendant of IL-2
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
It definitely is. Thanks for commenting.
@box8brewing829
@box8brewing829 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch, as usual. Keep up the great work!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support!
@Archer89201
@Archer89201 2 жыл бұрын
the russians attacked not just to protect the ossetians but also their peacekeepers who were under attack by georgian forces...also the fact that both sides used the Su 25 as the main attack aircraft friendly fire was inevitable
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Sure. But communication should have been done better. They seemed to have figured it out by the time of their Syrian involvement.
@andrygugli1928
@andrygugli1928 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 True, the siryan war was a great improvement in performance and they are basically using it as a testing ground for tactics and equipment
@Archer89201
@Archer89201 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Russian forces were just getting over the years of neglect and underfunding due to the economic doldrums and chaos the nation faced. Also they were caught offguard by the SAMs the Georgians got from Ukraine and Poland. The Georgians thought they had US/Nato backing and with their modernized army they would capture Tskinvali and call for truce before the Russian behemoth could react but that was a severe miscalculation, despite being rusty the Russians showed them who were top dog and even with the avoidable mistakes they broke the Georgian military and could have easily reached the capital if they wanted but they just destroyed the military infrastructure and withdrew to pre conflict lines and beat the Georgian narative of them wanting to annex whole of Russia. The conflict was an eye opener for the Russians and they learned from their mistakes and the improvements made after that had seen the difference in Ukraine where they captured Crimea so smoothly and with minimal forces decisively annihilated Ukrainian formations
@charlesmcgill2974
@charlesmcgill2974 2 жыл бұрын
Yes all Russia wants to do is help people it’s not like they wanna steal territory for their own purposes they are 1000% morally right always after all they beat the nazis and saved everyone and definitely didn’t commit major war crimes
@victorzvyagintsev1325
@victorzvyagintsev1325 2 жыл бұрын
​@@showtime112 It was not a planned war and the Russians had to pull all troops from all over the place to counterattack via only one mountain road. Thus troops got mixed up and barely knew what was going on and who was in command. It was a very confusing war in the begining.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын
15:50 amazing how the Su-25 can take a MANPAD center mass near the engines and still go on
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
In reality, the first missile hit one of the engines and the second missile hit the other one. But that turned out to be a bit hard to get exactly.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 huh, more "behind the curtain" details that I like
@rossmum
@rossmum 2 жыл бұрын
Looks like he ended up with a fuel tank fire and was lucky enough for it to burn out. In my DCS Su-25 experience, you've got about a minute before the plane explodes.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossmum I didn't know planes in DCS could explode from that, after a fire starts I never stay long enough in them to find out.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@rossmum Spoiler alert! That's what actually happened in that sequence. The second part where the Su-25 flies over Tskhinvali and gets hit again is a different take. These scenes mostly need to be captured separately, like movies.
@filipbertram78
@filipbertram78 2 жыл бұрын
Beautyfull attack...null tank demage one plane.. :D fast ground attack and low altitude! Thats the key
@Darkseidsolosfiction
@Darkseidsolosfiction 10 ай бұрын
Georgian soldiers gave hard time to russians
@Lawiah0
@Lawiah0 2 жыл бұрын
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@Nacimin
@Nacimin Жыл бұрын
the words "russian" and "peace keeping" toghether give me a funny feeling
@showtime112
@showtime112 Жыл бұрын
Sounds a bit contradictory, I agree.
@LeeLee-vc6ln
@LeeLee-vc6ln 2 жыл бұрын
Viva ukrine
@andrygugli1928
@andrygugli1928 2 жыл бұрын
The main cause of these losses was lack of ECM. They fixed this and took way less losses in the syrian campaign
@TheGranicd
@TheGranicd 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly fire was the issue also. Georgia operated mi24s and Su25s also.
@tyrehead
@tyrehead 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of these losses are from Manpads which are IR guided. ECM's do nothing to IR guided missiles.
@andrygugli1928
@andrygugli1928 2 жыл бұрын
@@tyrehead true I didn't take manpads into account. However ECM makes a huge difference against SAMs
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Generally, only the Tu-22 loss could have been prevented by ECM because this one was downed by a radar guided SAM. Others were MANPADs.
@TheGranicd
@TheGranicd 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 ECM doesn't prevent from being shot down. It helps but you can still target jamming platform in some cases. Depends how it jams. Denies range, noise jam, breaks guiding signal from radar to missile or something else.
@borislavarsov9111
@borislavarsov9111 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't t remember if it was 5 days or one week untill entire Georgian army was defeated and the Russian troops were at the doors of the capital. Please remind me.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Georgian offensive commenced on 8 August (or maybe an hour earlier). Ceasefire was negotiated on 12 August so it was five days.
@TheDarlowiak
@TheDarlowiak 2 жыл бұрын
Now You can see how good Polish “ Grom “ is ,to take Russian planes down.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
It also scored a hit on a Su-25 which returned to base but was later written off.
@AndriiMykhailovVPR
@AndriiMykhailovVPR 2 жыл бұрын
Good job ;)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 😁
@patrickcloutier6801
@patrickcloutier6801 2 жыл бұрын
I have always likened the Georgian war with Russia, to Manuel Noriega's attack on US forces in the Panama Canal Zone: the act of madmen, or fools. In any case, I did not know that Georgian anti-aircraft forces had performed as well as this. It seems like a rather high aircraft loss rate for the Russians, for a 2-3 day war with an inconsequential neighbor. I wonder what kind of losses the Russians might encounter in Ukraine, if Putin orders an invasion. Certainly the Russian Army will prevail, but how will the Russian Air Force perform in the face of an almost certainly stronger Ukrainian air defense network?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
As I wrote in the other comment, Georgian anti-aircraft defense wasn't very successful. Russians were flying many combat sorties without much interference. Sure, Ukrainians are a lot more dangerous but Russians will probably take them more seriously too.
@patrickcloutier6801
@patrickcloutier6801 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrekarim320 I think that Ukraine entering NATO is an unnecessary and reckless provocation, to which Russia will have no choice but to respond - however, all things aside, the second half of my post does not discuss what is right or wrong, but merely ponders what risks may lie ahead for the Russian Air Force in a large-scale operation in Ukraine, given that it lost nearly a dozen aircraft against Georgia, whose military strength is among the least in the world. If the war in Ukraine begins, the debate of who is right or wrong will end, and rather the question of who survived and who did not, will have prominence.
@adamrempel5952
@adamrempel5952 2 жыл бұрын
You ate up Ruski propaganda, Georgia didn't attack first, Georgian villages near the so called border were bombarded before Georgia took action and there is no such thing as a Russian "peacekeeper" nor "South Ossetia" The land is called samachablo and is Historically part of Georgia before Russians did everything to destabilize it along with Abkhazia region.
@Snipurss
@Snipurss Жыл бұрын
"certainly the Russian army will prevail" lol
@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby Жыл бұрын
Tu-22M is a monstrous aircraft.
@342Rodry
@342Rodry 2 жыл бұрын
2 things: MANPADS are a really useful weapon, and damn the ossetians really needed an ally-enemy recongnition system.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
That's quite right. It was probably a problem of having a bunch of trigger happy irregulars as an ally. Those might be a bit hard to control 😁
@342Rodry
@342Rodry 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 they just wanted something to tell to theirs grandkids xD
@brankonisevic1991
@brankonisevic1991 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Showtime 112 do you think ghost of kiev Is real
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
It's not real. It might be based on some truth and it is possible that some Ukrainian pilots scored a few air-to-air kills. But one single pilot shooting down mostly fighter aircraft is very unlikely.
@bernardantoinerouffaer7578
@bernardantoinerouffaer7578 2 жыл бұрын
Very good :-)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@timothyseeger5296
@timothyseeger5296 2 жыл бұрын
And better yet , more F/A-18s have fallen out of the sky 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@terrynewsome6698
@terrynewsome6698 2 жыл бұрын
This comment didn't age well
@terrynewsome6698
@terrynewsome6698 2 жыл бұрын
Yes all 2 of them.😒
@andreasandreotti4492
@andreasandreotti4492 2 жыл бұрын
Animation narrating is far away of reality!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
No idea what that means.
@avs7210
@avs7210 2 жыл бұрын
Я сам из Росии , вот чего нам не хвотало !!! Этот контент просто должен был когда-то появится на свет божий!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting, I'm glad you approve.
@spitefulwar
@spitefulwar 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZperdZhnpaiJrbs Whenever I see a tunnel entrance in DCS I am kind of expecting meow.scharfi dashing out of it riding her Mig-21...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
I think she only started doing that after the 2008 War 😁😁
@daviddickey9832
@daviddickey9832 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened and seeing Georgian artillery falling on residential neighborhoods in Tshkinvalli.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that such things happen too.
@mervharris5183
@mervharris5183 2 жыл бұрын
Great depiction and commentary. That friendly fire is a recurring problem ….
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the positive comment! I find friendly fire incidents quite interesting.
@bryce.hooops
@bryce.hooops 2 жыл бұрын
Idk
@studinthemaking
@studinthemaking 2 жыл бұрын
How does one define "heavy losses" in this type of war?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
There probably isn't a mathematical formula but six aircraft shot down, plus three more written of in five days isn't light.
@user-hu6yr9ro4q
@user-hu6yr9ro4q 2 жыл бұрын
Where are NATO USA losses in Yugo'99 war
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
On the 'To Do' list 😁
@user-hu6yr9ro4q
@user-hu6yr9ro4q 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 tnx, but be careful with a data. Read Russian and Serbian sources also pls.
@tonikolar1414
@tonikolar1414 2 жыл бұрын
Odlican video, svaka cast.To sto se radnja odvija na stvarnim lokacijama nekako bas doprinosi feelingu. Koju regiju/mapu bi najvise volio da naprave za DCS?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Hvala na komentaru! Točno je da stvarna lokacija doprinosi dojmu. Što se tiče novih mapa, za početak se jako veselim Južnom Atlantiku odnosno Falklandima. Istražujem materijale i ima tu jako zanimljivih priča za obraditi. A od onih na kojima još nitko ne radi, definitivno Vijetnam. I to da bude mapa iz 60-tih. Nemamo nijednu takvu tropsku/sub-tropsku mapu osim Marijanskog otočja ali tu je jako očito da se radi o malom otoku.
@tonikolar1414
@tonikolar1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Falklandu se nesto ne radujem pretjerano jer mi je osobno nepoznanica. Ovaj najavljeni Afganistan me vise zanima, Vijetnam iz 60 bi bio perverzija, pogotovo kada izadje ovaj najavljeni Phantom.Ja osobno prizeljkujem da nekad naprave Balkan mapu, mislim da bi bila to najzanimljivija mapa za letit zbog raznolikosti reljefa.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonikolar1414 Onda ćeš možda biti malo razočaran kad izađe mapa Falklanda jer ju planiram dobro iskoristiti 😁
@tonikolar1414
@tonikolar1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Ne vidim ja tu razocarenje, ti je dobro iskoristis, a ja naucim nesto novo o Falklandu od tebe :)
@apflyingamer3623
@apflyingamer3623 2 жыл бұрын
Are we gonna be seeing some chopper videos in the future?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
That is possible 😁
@aresmilitaryaviation6254
@aresmilitaryaviation6254 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@_omniZ_
@_omniZ_ Жыл бұрын
No way, Tu-22 lost?
@showtime112
@showtime112 Жыл бұрын
Yes, one of few aircraft actually shot down by Georgians and not by Russians mistakenly.
@xiaolianglu9090
@xiaolianglu9090 2 жыл бұрын
Any countermeasure against MANPAD? I know flare, what else?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Back then, the only other thing than dropping some flares would have been trying to maneuver. More recently, there are some active systems that can jam IR seekers and even sensors that can detect a missile launch. But as far as I can see, such systems are not yet widely applied.
@hiry_thailand2173
@hiry_thailand2173 2 жыл бұрын
Shootdown by missile made in Israel or Rusia.
@sohrabroozbahani4700
@sohrabroozbahani4700 2 жыл бұрын
Well the Russian JTAC certainly needs some procedural training, and so does their MANPAD avoidance tactics...
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
They probably improved things since then. But I'm not sure if there were any Russian JTACs with the South Ossetian troops. Probably not.
@cecilmessi6972
@cecilmessi6972 2 жыл бұрын
This really shows stealth is important when going on offense, especially against countries with decent Air defence.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Stealth wouldn't have helped here. Most shootdowns were by MANPAD missiles and a good part of them was 'friendly' fire.
@cecilmessi6972
@cecilmessi6972 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 interesting, how do they work? Like heat seeking missiles? Do they work only against jets flying in low altitude?
@MlTGLIED
@MlTGLIED 2 жыл бұрын
@@cecilmessi6972 yes, it's IR missiles. If you see something flying, you can fire at it at something max 3000m altitude. Stealth doesn't matter.
@bigboy379
@bigboy379 Жыл бұрын
This is an incredibly underrated channel. Thank you for your work!
@showtime112
@showtime112 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback, I'm glad to hear you like the content!
@ponkopanajot5143
@ponkopanajot5143 2 жыл бұрын
Ха,ха,ха! Нещастници!
@dunjadimitrijevic7087
@dunjadimitrijevic7087 2 жыл бұрын
A koliko li će tek u Ukrajini da imaju gubitka?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Ponešto već izlazi na vidjelo.
@robijnbruinsma4489
@robijnbruinsma4489 6 ай бұрын
Outstanding re-enactment. Was it Georgian that was spoken by the ground troops?
@paez4779
@paez4779 2 жыл бұрын
I love these vids... I would love to see a Russian aircraft loses of Chechnya 94 or at least during the battle of Grozny
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot! Chechnya is in my long term plan as well. I need to dig up some more details.
@paez4779
@paez4779 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 looking forward to watching.. very hard to find about the Air campaign in Chechnya 94 so I will await eagerly... Thanks for all the great work
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 2 жыл бұрын
Did chechens have anti air ?
@paez4779
@paez4779 2 жыл бұрын
@@sababugs1125 Chechens had MANPADs and mostly shot down helicopters but due to poor weather conditions some fixed wing aircraft were shot down during air to ground strokes.. forcing them to fly higher making their attacks less effective.
@csk4j
@csk4j 2 жыл бұрын
wow.. a 3 for 1 episode!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment.
@robmiller1964
@robmiller1964 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, well done and I look forward to more of your Documentaries! Love from New Zealand to the Georgians, and Ukrainians in these times!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks! More content is on the way!
@dharmendrasharma1458
@dharmendrasharma1458 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!
@dado500
@dado500 2 жыл бұрын
Odličan video. Kraj je više jurišnim zrakoplovima. Dva drona bi prvu kolonu izbrisala da ih nitko ni ne vidi.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Hvala na komentaru. Mislim da to još nije 100% sigurno. U Armensko-azerbejdžanskom sukobu su dronovi bili vrlo efikasni jer Armenija nije imala niti lovačku avijaciju, niti moderne sustave zemlja-zrak. No, moderni lovački avioni znaju biti dosta efikasni protiv dronova. A vjerojatno se naveliko radi i na sustavima ometanja veze.
@Im_Chael70M
@Im_Chael70M 2 жыл бұрын
Ahh what a nice actual informative history! 😎💯
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate it!
@Im_Chael70M
@Im_Chael70M 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Yeah cool man
@bjornsmith9431
@bjornsmith9431 2 жыл бұрын
The Russian military is busy from the break up of the Soviet Union fighting Chechen, Dagestan, Georgia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine protecting within there region of influence, NATO is doing in the Ukraine, the same thing has the British Empire, France, Sardinia Italian and Ottoman Empire 1853-1856.
@uhhhyeag20
@uhhhyeag20 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nooo NATO wants to stop Russia from destroying the sovereignity of yet another state. So horrible!
@myopicthunder
@myopicthunder 2 жыл бұрын
@@uhhhyeag20 the US state department sponsored the coup that overthrew the elected government and put US puppets in power, that started the whole mess in 2014. US and NATO sponsored overthrow and destruction of Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen, etc etc and you want to talk about sovereignty??! what a brainwashed clown you are.
@dimitri1154
@dimitri1154 2 жыл бұрын
@@myopicthunder but the US claims they are exceptional and the "good guys", so there is no moral equivalency 😉
@hphp31416
@hphp31416 2 жыл бұрын
@@myopicthunder similar to Poland 1989
@d.cypher2920
@d.cypher2920 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, brother! This war, i believe in 2008? Was relatively unexpected, at least by those who were not closely following the preceding events. *WAR, no matter the euphemisms that the elites attempt to use to describe it to us, (in a petty and insulting manner to usurp our minds ability to fully understand and appreciate the consequences and horrors of it), is a disgusting, unnecessary and very nasty business. I pray one day soon, that those individuals, the real warmongers, shall be forced to lead the infantry from the very front themselves.* [ *INFANT-RY* that literally means *'Child Soldiers'* btw ] In this more simple way, Wars would be very scarce indeed. Imagine for a moment please: Putin, Biden, Merkel, etc. etc. etc. Would be required to get fully kitted up, get their $hitte together... and actually fight one another, and inevitably some would be killed as a result. *Wars would be much more rare, if ever even were sparked off, if the actual beneficiary of it's spoils were at risk of dying in the hot dirt, like we common people are.* [By the way bro, I am not getting any alerts from KZbin for your videos. Just letting you know. My sub and bell is on, I just happen to be perusing the latest videos of the day and saw your video from 4 days ago. Be well man.] 😎🇺🇸🙏
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting, glad yo liked the video. As for your suggestion of leaders combat, it's not hard to imagine who would win there 😁 I'm not sure why you don't get notifications. YT Studio is happily telling me that delivery success is 100% I usually release on Saturday afternoon, CET. That's when you can expect them.
@d.cypher2920
@d.cypher2920 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 i was getting the videos suggested to me until about 1 month ago... Perhaps it's more about me leaving my wifi, and returning later. That's more likely than some grand conspiracy. Be well, stay healthy. Hvala. 😎🇺🇸 [Indeed, Putin would clearly dominate the fight. Obviously not my favorite human... yet, I would love to see as competent and clever a leader as he in our great Nation's seat of power. His closest counterpart George H.W. Bush is off to the next world.] 🤷🏻‍♂️
@brightpakistan5476
@brightpakistan5476 2 жыл бұрын
Good video I like it 👌
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support.
@TheGranicd
@TheGranicd 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't recon Tu-22MR downed in this case?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Early reports suggested that it was a recon aircraft but according to Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, it seems it was a bomber. They have the most detailed info I could find about this conflict in their book 'Tanks of August'.
@ratagris21
@ratagris21 2 жыл бұрын
Good video to help recall this conflict on this region. I remember when it first occurred.☯️🎩♠️🏁
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! This one has been forgotten a bit but I thought the recent situation might make it more interesting.
@renatoandricevic8638
@renatoandricevic8638 2 жыл бұрын
Letiš i helikopterima u DCS-u?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Recimo da nešto malo učim. Zasad sam još na prilično niskoj razini u tom pogledu 😁 Ali dugoročno, planiram ubaciti. Recimo, Sirijcke Gazele su letjele u nekim zanimljivim misijama u Libanonu 1982.
@renatoandricevic8638
@renatoandricevic8638 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 zato pitam, jer naprimjer. Jedan desant u Vijetnamu bila bi akcija kakvu igrani film ne može pokazati. A tebi to ide
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@renatoandricevic8638 Možda i tako nešto bude u igri. Doduše, s obzirom da ćemo prije mape Vijetnama dobiti Afganistan, vjerojatno će tu biti dosta mogućnosti (Mi-24, Apache, Kiowa.....)
@tonikolar1414
@tonikolar1414 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Dobili smo i Blackhawka u DCS-u i to besplatnog. Ako vec nisi,probaj obavezno, stvarno odlicno odradjen mod, a tek je u ranoj fazi.
@takaharatanaka8818
@takaharatanaka8818 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thank you for the hard work. You always point out what really happened is dependant on perspective & neither party is ever completely sure.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for your comment! What you wrote is true. I imagine that if we had say, Gaulish testimonies from the Roman conquest of Gaul, this would cast a whole new light to the Roman only view we have now, based mostly on Cesar's memoirs.
@soldatzes6787
@soldatzes6787 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are crazy in quality, even if it’s just DCS without much editing. These are awesome!!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate your support! Some level of 'editing' is still needed. Primarily because DCS is really not designed to be used for this.
@Bren.nto6971
@Bren.nto6971 2 жыл бұрын
Great content, subscribed!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it!
@SAarumDoK
@SAarumDoK 2 жыл бұрын
Great content :D
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@Go-hard-or-go-home
@Go-hard-or-go-home 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do the aircraft losses of Cenepa war?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly one day. I think there were some Mirage F1s involved? We should be getting that airplane in DCS soon.
@TheLincolnshireFlyer
@TheLincolnshireFlyer Жыл бұрын
😊
@showtime112
@showtime112 Жыл бұрын
You are binge watching I guess 😁 Thanks!
@udayanpaul8042
@udayanpaul8042 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sire, enjoyed another good video of yours if you please consider making a video on batk o longewala
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. The battle you suggest is a bit hard to do because of lack of available assets in DCS. Most aircraft used by India are simply not there.
@udayanpaul8042
@udayanpaul8042 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 You are correct, indeed, I think the aircraft used in the 'battle of longewala', was the hawker hunter, I hope it's in the DCS, many thanks anyway for your kind words sire, have a great day.
@mikemontgomery2654
@mikemontgomery2654 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about a lot of this. Thank you for making these videos.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and commenting!
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 2 жыл бұрын
Do Chechnya war losses next. You'll need Su-25, Su-24 and Mi-24 for the videos. Also Iran F-14 vs Iraqi fighters during persian war
@guinnog2
@guinnog2 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there's a Su 24.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
I probably will someday. Russians flew quite a lot of missions there. Sadly, the Chechnya part is not detailed on the Caucasus map. As for the F-14, a major problem is that on the DCS module for that airplane, replay track doesn't work at all. Maybe they'll fix it someday.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
It exists as an AI only model. It was used in this video.
@jayjay53313
@jayjay53313 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 noted, you may make the famous Iran preemptive strike on Iraq fuel storage involving F-14 and F-4 vs Iraqi Mirages & Migs
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@jayjay53313 When the F-4 gets released, I will certainly do some of those scenarios.
@Basenjittt
@Basenjittt 2 жыл бұрын
Very good, as usual.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@enzoflyer7522
@enzoflyer7522 2 жыл бұрын
Another good one!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@matary3631
@matary3631 2 жыл бұрын
Pozz, koliko DLC-ova imaš u DCS-u?
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Pozdrav! Misliš, koliko modula? Četiri moderne mape, FC3 avione, F-16, F-18, F-86, F-5, Harrier, MiG-15, MIG-19, MiG-21. Možda još poneki kojeg se ne mogu sjetiti.
@matary3631
@matary3631 2 жыл бұрын
@@showtime112 Solidno. Super video!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
@@matary3631 Pomalo ću nabavljati i helikoptere. Hvala na komentaru.
@jesserivas1387
@jesserivas1387 2 жыл бұрын
This Chanel is in my top 5 favorites!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's good to hear that.
@ugarit5404
@ugarit5404 2 жыл бұрын
Aircraft losses go brrrr
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting!
@downundergarage6968
@downundergarage6968 2 жыл бұрын
You forget to mention that giorgia attacked the russian peace keepers that were keeping the sides apart.. these guys suffered heavy losses as they were only lightly armed..
@ProBroOfficial
@ProBroOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Peacekeepers my funking ass!
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe. Not sure if that even happened after recent events.
@sababugs1125
@sababugs1125 2 жыл бұрын
Peacekeepers only in name
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 2 жыл бұрын
50% of losses to friendly fire (!!!)
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Very high, yes. Mostly, it was South Ossetian irregular troops who were probably less disciplined. There was one case of a probable IFF failure but it will be discussed in the next chapter.
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrekarim320 But clearly not by Georgian forces as they were out of range. I mean if you have evidence why don't you provide any?
@tomk3732
@tomk3732 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrekarim320 tell the author your version then
@josecabezas6159
@josecabezas6159 2 жыл бұрын
juegos de gerra se acaba flora y fauna
@gorka7824
@gorka7824 2 жыл бұрын
Always great works
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@FD1CE
@FD1CE 2 жыл бұрын
Great piece of art and history, man. Great job
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I appreciate the support!
@joacoscotani1105
@joacoscotani1105 2 жыл бұрын
Great work,i love your videos man.
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the support, thanks!
@timothyseeger5296
@timothyseeger5296 2 жыл бұрын
Still nowhere near as many US aircraft that were shot down by the Vietnamese 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@showtime112
@showtime112 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this was just a five day war.
@terrynewsome6698
@terrynewsome6698 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because Vietnam airforce did better?
@ernestoscalade
@ernestoscalade 7 ай бұрын
In this war Russians get objetives without an effort. Georgia loose and OTAN get humiliated. And in Ukraine is the same.
@showtime112
@showtime112 7 ай бұрын
How exactly was NATO humiliated in Georgia? Don't talk BS.
@ernestoscalade
@ernestoscalade 7 ай бұрын
@@showtime112 russia owns georgia (and NATO) in... Two weeks? One month? I remember. When russian army income tbilisi Sakhasvili apears on live tv eating his cravate... Lol. You are a joke. The only wars you win are the wars against third world poor countries. NATO is a bully.
@ernestoscalade
@ernestoscalade 7 ай бұрын
@@showtime112 russia owns this war in two weeks or one month maximum. I remember russian forces coming in tbilisi and Sakhasvily eating his tie on live tv.
@EAGLE-y4t
@EAGLE-y4t 6 ай бұрын
​@@ernestoscalade Do not talk rubbish. Although Russia won that war, it was at a huge cost. The entire Russian column was destroyed in a matter of days. Not to mention that this is the second army in the world. Right now, the war in Ukraine is simply a disgrace for Russia.
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