Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe Over Normandy | DOGFIGHTS | IL-2 Great Battles | World War II | D-Day

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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Thanks for watching guys, sound off in the comment section if you enjoy World War II content, and I'll focus on making plenty more in the future. Thanks for watching and I'll see you in the next one, Much Love.

[@Jr-uh2so]

Bro, I enjoy it all! Legit modern and historical, your commentary and content is entertaining af!

[@fmj1729]

P38 differential thrust please

[@clairecelestin8437]

More WWII please!

[@jameskester7745]

Just interested in your opinion if you think this thing would be any kind of match against a A-10?

[@DChrls]

GS, since you love making Me262 video's make one with the Me263, Bf109 and Fw190. Then leave the Me262 in the hanger. Then you could fly the Bf109 against the Fw190. Then the Fw190 vs. Bf109 and tell us which is easier to get kills with.😃👍

[@The1980Philip]

GS wasn't shot down by a P38 ... he was shot down by his own hubris.

[@a64dx86]

just climb away and everything will be fine

[@M4xPower]

The aircraft's best climb speed is near its top speed. Jets gain 'horsepower' as their airspeed increases. Nothing can climb fast with the 262, but steep climbs are a no no. At around 500 km/h and above, the 262 ought to have a climb rate advantage, and that advantage should get higher and higher as the chase becomes faster. The 262 will still have a major percentage of its climb rate above the P-38's top speed, at which the P-38 can't climb at all (while maintaining it speed by definition). I think escaping this situation could have played out like 1. Get out of guns range. 2. Achieve around 600 km/h TAS 3. climb at an attitude gains or maintains airspeed.

[@LongTran-em6hc]

It's hard not to get hubris in a Me-262, I mean, that thing is like some UFO shit in it's time

[@mastur_grunt4244]

Like Icarus flying too close to the sun. His wings literally melting off.

[@jdbarnes5987]

When he went back I knew how this video was going to end. And I knew that again a p38 would shoot him down. 😂

[@KalvyNoodle]

Your sheer joyful bloodlust is what makes this as entertaining as it is

[@havocblast]

Watched so many of his videos that said never go vertical with someone on your 6. He got complacent since he was in a jet and it shows why that is an important rule.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

This is accurate.

[@Razgriz85]

So, if the Luftwaffe didn't lose all their veteran pilots, this is how the ME262 would have been used.

[@emmano6340]

And the luftwaffe vets that did fly the 262 had a pretty good kill rate in it

[@sbg911]

And Hitler didn't ignore people like Galland and demand the plane be used primarily as a bomber...

[@sbg911]

@@LarsAgerbk tks, i will check it out

[@Baltic_Dude]

He's a garbage pilot and talks out of his ass

[@sbg911]

@@norcalsrt1214 appreciate a link to something factual stating its a myth before i accept that.

[@Appreciation-Community]

Love the WW2 videos just as much as the modern videos really appreciate the mix-up every now and then. Keep kicking ass GS, we see you out here hustlin'.

[@barbaros99]

The damage modelling in IL-2 is so dang good.

[@josephstalin5751]

I wish we had IL2 on console but Ik it’ll never be imported onto console.

[@Horendus123]

@@guinnog2 is it?? I thought it just had the big update??

[@Horendus123]

@@guinnog2 its great!

[@dimon5891]

it looks more like a random. and mostly, in favour of German planes...

[@Archer89201]

This is what happened IRL to the Luftwaffe, their pilots shot down several planes but there was dozens more and their pilots were grinded down through sheer attrition

[@bzs187]

The fact that the people from transport plane jump after fatal hit, it's kinda a nice touch, a pretty nice one.

[@joshcorvette]

I imagine that the best Luftwaffe pilots had this experience. Takeoff, intercept, shoot-scoot, kill, climb, dive, shoot-scoot, kill, climb, etc. Day after day after day until your luck ran out and you died, or were shot down.

[@taylorcarson876]

This is one of the most entertaining GS videos I've seen! The speed and power of the 262 is staggering.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

I like how the Jug's engine was still trying to fly home

[@hunormagyar1843]

Yea lol

[@doctorstrangeman7772]

I think your next video has got to be a 1v1 dogfight between the p38 and the me262. Only with a twist, both fighters will employ differential thrust. GS make it happen man!

[@hunterreynolds2188]

Love it 😂

[@2bidfilmsguy]

You cant throttle the me262 engines up or down rapidly, you have to go up really slowly otherwise the engines will overheat and catch fire, and go down slowly otherwise you will have a flameout, the throttle also cant go under about 20-30% while in flight otherwise you will flameout, in the 262 you pretty much stay between 80-100% throttle the entire time until landing, normally when I land I take about 30 seconds to go from 90% throttle to 40%

[@doctorstrangeman7772]

@@2bidfilmsguyI will have to take your word about the me262, but the p38 is another story, it performs very well with the differential thrust . Anyway, I think this kan be a very good match up, and I think others would like to see it happen.

[@richardalldredge9129]

😂😂😂

[@JosephArata]

@@doctorstrangeman7772 Propeller engines don't have differential thrust, what the hell are you even talking about. Quit meming and go back to class kid. The only propeller driven aircraft that could even remotely be called as having "thrust" were the gas turbine driven propeller cargo planes of the 1950s and the Merlin engine, which they used exhaust ports to provide said "thrust".

[@TemplarDCS]

imagine you're in WWII and you see a Canadian dude in a German aircraft with a VR headset on

[@gctzx]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma yes

[@gctzx]

@@Wasattsi why?

[@Mike_Romeo]

@@Wasattsi Because he is canadian ?

[@TemplarDCS]

@@Wasattsi LMFAOOO

[@rayg.2431]

@@Wasattsi Cut GS some slack, at least he will politely shoot you down. And to GS, love this WW2 video, keep them coming.

[@johnysed1]

That paratrooper bailing animation looks so cool. Wish we had this quality in DCS

[@GM-fh5jp]

One of the biggest problems for the ME262 aside from being bounced in the landing pattern, was sheer weight of numbers fielded by the allies. They would dive in and blast some allied aircraft but then be swarmed by a ratio of as high as 15-1 by Mustangs and other air defense fighters while they were trying to engage an enemy. Even with its speed it struggled to survive against such heavy opposition flown by very experienced pilots.

[@dillonpeterson66]

Im sick of this. The 262 struggled to fight anything it and it faced skilled pilots, but instead of praising allied pilot's for their skill, people like you resort to this pathetic hero worship of their murders.

[@elliotbarnard4890]

@@dillonpeterson66 Bro got pressed for someone posting some cool facts

[@basecode8]

10:26 That sounds like confidence!!

[@mattphillips4329]

love seeing how the Me 262 makes him so happy

[@CivisMilitarum]

Man, the pops from the rounds hitting were sick! In the end, everyone rides the lightning 🌩

[@marcellusdererste4413]

dude im on 109 dcs vr learning basics (startup landings etc - and im nailing it tbh) but your ballistics on the 262 with that rudder kill fishing that p40 out of the sky likie a shark reminds me of how beautifull it is what we do and go countless hours through to perfect our skill in

[@nighthawk6755]

Episodes in 262 are one of your greatest series continues to do it pure pleasure to watch

[@Gcatt1]

I love GS's excitement describing the 262- all of which played out in the game! Thank you for posting this!

[@joshallison4857]

8:26 6 paratroopers may have exited by the time it hit the ground, but I don't think the 6th paratrooper is going to walk away from that... 😬

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Yaaaa the last guys luck might have run out right at the end there.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Best thing about a 262 is the cannons no contest. The speed is nice, but the 4 30mm are essentially a delete button when they hit. Really ahead of the curve in fighter design with providing an overpowered canon for dogfights

[@travisdurgeloh9621]

I love this video…watched it many times. Not only is this one of my favorite ww2 planes, but the running dialogue is just as entertaining as the graphics…”I’m ok. I’m good…oh! That’s a big fire! I gotta go!”

[@andrewb325]

Gorgeous rendering. Anyone else notice how close he was to the end of that runway?

[@debbiestimac5175]

Yes! He nearly bought the farm so to speak. People don't realize how slow those old turbojets were to make power for take-off. It's why our runways were massively long for the USAF in those early years. The thrust levels were pitiful and you could not just firewall the throttle, you had to ease it in over 30 seconds or so, watching EGTs like a hawk.

[@thecircusfreak5364]

I thought this was DCS for a second and about had a heart attack. Make it happen ED, gimme that 262.

[@gabemullen8158]

hey man just wanted to let u know that i love these videos where its not just the typical dogfights with one plane vs another, I loved the p 38 one

[@clairecelestin8437]

Great video! Your gunnery has gotten very sharp, which it needs to be to score hits with those closure rates. Make as many of these as you want and I will watch them all.

[@capsbr2100]

That pilot burning was brutal.

[@smellyfella5077]

The concentrated firepower of 4 nose-mounted Mk-108 cannons firing Minengeschoß rounds....is just nothing less than a major Can Of Whoop-ass!

[@charliebailey2359]

And the guy flying the aircraft with two gas driven hair dryers is finally shot down! Great video!

[@gunnarbodowiemann7677]

You coming back to the base, your flight commander yelling: "You just lost a plane worth a fortune. It costs thousands of Reichmarks."

[@TimVanBuren]

That "Ding!" for an angel getting his wings was just... *chef's kiss*

[@PastorRob77]

"Oh, that's a big fire. Time to get out." Great ending to a great video. Well done.

[@Darrylx444]

Trying to steeply out-climb a P-38 that is already within gun range has killed me so many times I can't even count that high. They can prop hang like a boss.

[@EdMcStinko]

This is my favorite GS video. Entertaining from start to finish

[@VikingTeddy]

Holy smoke! I thought you were merging with that first mozzie, but you were actually passing it. That was fast!

[@stephenschroeder6567]

That was hilarious seeing Karma get her payment from you with that flaming engine at the end! Great video and lesson for everyone. Keep up the great work.

[@Brextynne]

Please more 262 and IL 2 they are my favorites. Excellent work as always 🎉

[@redbeard3574]

I don't know if it's available in DCS yet, but it would be cool to see the Me-262 against the Gloster Meteor. From what I've heard, the Meteor was predicted to be a counter to the 262, but they never fought each other (as far as we know).

[@IrishCarney]

@@DefinitelyNotEmma It wasn't that they feared the 262 so much they were protecting the Meteor from a superior aircraft. They were keeping the Meteor's tech from falling into enemy hands if shot down. So they were forbidden to fly over German-held territory (or even Soviet-held territory, by the way). The British were actually hoping to bait 262s into combat against Meteors -- over Allied-held territory.

[@Dv087]

I thoroughly enjoyed this please put more of these videos onto KZbin. It's fewer entertainment

[@MattH-wg7ou]

They have a real Me262 in the NAS Pensacola Aviation Museum and it's so interesting to check it out in detail and see the differences between the German engineering and the US Naval planes of the same era. It is very obviously a different philosophy. Thankfully this marvel of engineering came too little too late, if they had it earlier and it had the opportunity to make a bigger impact, the Allies would have been in trouble!

[@sfctw1]

6:19 "Yup. That's me. You're probably wondering how I ended up in this situation"

[@AlexKowalski-ci6im]

Growling Sidewinder has climaxed several times during this video 😁 ! I really LOVE the Me262 series.

[@Laerei]

I love how you fly with the fastest plane and check your six as if there would be anyone there. It would be a massive shock if there was. :D

[@Bossshrew]

I love the troop carrier had snafu on its nose as it went down 😂

[@FlyingNutcase]

Here's some tincy wincy encouragement to do more IL2 Great Battles content. P.S. New CFM AI in 5.002, should be out this week. ;) Nice shooting BTW. Is VR, especially high-res making that easier?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

many thanks, and yes much more IL-2 to come in the future.

[@davidvaughn7752]

That was great! Your narration and flight was brilliant!

[@NZHardhouser]

Loving these! Thanks for the IL-2 love - and the WWII content - soaking this up!!

[@HDCairnsAviation]

9:51 is the best part, the way he turns around😂😂

[@bawhamper]

Would definitely love to see more Second World War action from the channel. Indeed more First World War as well. Also, it’d be cool if IL-2 introduced the DH Vampire, the P-80 and the Mig-9 for a hypothetical 1946 scenario to go up against the Me-262 etc, just for shits and giggles.

[@hunormagyar1843]

You can do some of that in the good ol' very Il-2 1946. Prolly not Vampire and Meteor but idk there's def 262s, a YP-80 and a Mig-9 and some other early rocket n jet aircraft. You can't do it in this newer Great Battles series tho, so you'll have to suffice with a tad worse graphics... at least you can run it on a literal calculator.

[@hptk01]

I have never said OOOF so many times watching a GS video. So brutal.

[@vczs]

"How deadly is this thing?" -Well, basically you're firing quad automatic grenade launchers to an aircraft. It naturally blows them to bits.

[@davidsapir3764]

I think "262 WW2 Barbecue" would've been a better title for this video. Wow was this one fun to watch!

[@garykleinsteuber4529]

I remember flying the 262 in Chuck Yeager's Air Combat. It lures you into a false sense of security. You start to feel Invincible.

[@FishermanJoel]

Oh man, I want to see a revenge video on the P-38s. I love the 262 videos that thing is a terror. Keep the WW2 content coming I’ve been missing it!!

[@CaptainLawrenceNZ]

That first mosquito was like confetti 😮 That was an awesome video… omg I want to buy IL2 now

[@Karza_357]

Il-2 is a great game. I wouldn't mind seeing more of it on the channel.

[@pingu8290]

"Definetly had no equal during WW2" : Sad Gloster Meteor noises

[@Boslandschap1]

Brutal and a pleasure to watch. The 262 is fast but it is a bad climber as far as I know, the P-38 on the other hand is a pretty good climber. Might have been better to extend maybe in a shallow dive and get speed to simply fly away instead of trying to outclimb the P-38.

[@johanalitalo8331]

Hell of a shoot on that mosquito in the beginning.👍 And indeed the schwalbe schreads everything. Question: Have you considered trying out the me 410? From what I hear it is an enjoyable plane to fly.

[@scudrunner79]

That first kill holy shit

[@wesmithoff3211]

The 262 is a wing ripper. Damn, bravo

[@theariesexperiment4642]

Such a beautiful instrument of violence. Simply beautiful.

[@mundusa]

My grampa was an aircraft mechanic in England during the war and he begrudgingly said that the sound of the me 262 engines was one of the best sounds in the world. Even compared with later jets.

[@lb7144]

Say hi to those allied paratroopers you showdown earlier. They have s’mores waiting for you 😂😂😂

[@sjpeckham1]

These videos just get more amazing than the last! This is making my loins moist to get back home and use the VR for flights in IL-2

[@magoid]

I will call that P-38, Kratus. He saw a god, and instead of running away scared, he stayed and slayed the sob.

[@DiamantisGR]

So I was like, wait climbing like that is going to make him vulnerable to those 20mm. Oh, there we go.

[@EvoraGT430]

Correct.

[@teatime6597]

A slight descent to speed away would have been better right?

[@macgyver186]

Thanks GS, I really appreciate it!

[@skycladobserver9246]

And what did we learn? Don't screw with P-38's, even in a Me 262. They are laser accurate with all those centered guns with no convergence and those 4 x 50 cals and a 20mm do sting a bit.

[@gctzx]

You should also scream "NEIN!" when you're engine gets taken out. 🤣

[@jamesmacnamara8174]

You can sometimes put out an engine fire in an ME262, if you shut off the engine that is on fire, and point the nose straight down, it extinguishes it, worked a couple times for me.

[@khristianasaro1699]

At last another me-262 video. I was thinking about on when your going to do another one.

[@baomao7243]

Seeing the the Me262 and it’s speed for the first time had to be terrifying to opposing pilots.

[@moop1789]

There is a video about a first encounter on KZbin. It's called: "The Messerschmitt Me 262 spooks USAAF bomber"

[@baomao7243]

@@moop1789 I will need to look at that - i remember a TV interview with an old pilot who related his first engagement suddenly seeing these in the sky against him. I think, in the end, he said that they realized the success-maximizing strategy was simply “get in their way,” which made you understand how lopsided the fight had become as that fighter was introduced into service. Good find. Thanks.

[@darylcav6285]

Really enjoying the WW2 battles

[@fariselsheikh2761]

On 6:19 my guy's canopy went: I'm not having any of this.

[@vampirecount3880]

LOVE the ME262 Thanks for the video

[@oliabid-price4517]

Now you understand why Captain Eric Brown deemed this the most significant warplane of the entire Second World War.

[@Commandergree143]

I love how you include the casualties in the video

[@thegreenmamba100]

At this point the video has barely started and I dropped a like. Just know it's always quality stuff :) Love your love of it :)

[@wheelwrightpl9429]

awesome reflections in the gauges! this alone brings a lot of realism

[@HetzerTheTutel]

FINALLY AN IL-2 VIDEOOOO! edit i know he made a video about il2 recently but man its been long since we got any other il2 vid

[@ellisgreen1479]

ME 262 was the 1st jet fighter......but it wasn't perfect! The UK's Spitfire mk 14 was the 1st plane to shoot it down. The P51 did it also. BUT the Tempest was by far the most successful. The ME262 wasn't a finished jet fighter (thank god) and in a dogfight the ME262 couldn't turn, it was only good at shooting then moving. A Germany pilot Hubert Lange said the Tempest was by far the most dangerous opponent.

[@jbrenzinator5926]

Best part of working a slow Saturday, can watch these videos the millisecond they come out,

[@Brookspirit]

It would be great to see the ME 262 against the Gloster Meteor.

[@me67galaxylife]

yep we don't see enough meteor

[@Oscuros]

Me262 is always fun until one of the engines starts flaming out, because you forgot and messed with the engine power controls. What I also liked in Il-2 1946 about flying one was the blinding cannon flash. That was also fun, but in a sick sort of way. Obviously the Gloucester Meteor was also a thing back then. Operational since July 1944. 06:30 that's not the first time I've seen you go for the cockpit. Marseille also did that, I prefer to go for engines more, like some others. It's like a karma thing, even though it doesn't exactly work out that way sometimes, but other pilots do notice that about your style in RL.

[@ndrew3779]

@4:19 GS checking his six like a nutsack in 1945 lol. Yeah, you have Chuck Yeager on your tail bud jk luv it!

[@MrJules2U]

More of this! Great vid man.

[@foxbat888]

I think that there is actual camera footage on KZbin showing ME262's attacking American daylight bomber formations. They come straight up from underneath the formation firing a short burst of 30mm cannon, ripping a wing straight off a hapless B17 or B24, perhaps the first time they had seen an aircraft without propellers

[@huga9705]

Awesome gameplay and I love the realistic first person view

[@SIXSTRING63]

The fork tailed devil proved to be just that on this mission. 4 50’s and a 20mm canon made quick work of that ME262.

[@wolfhound6396]

I just want more Il-2 (because history and world wars are my jam) and I appreciate you making more thank you GS! :)

[@The_Original_Brad_Miller]

I'm surprised the piece you shot off that transport and it hit you in the face didn't leave a mark.... Otto was with you I guess.

[@ChristianPauchet]

06:17 Pilot instantly killed and roasted to perfection. LOL

[@ile2038]

GS looking around his plane wondering where he got shot, looks to his left "oh...."

[@welcome3933]

Smithsonian Museum in Washington DC has collection of legendary fighters of Battle of Britain Messerschmitt Me-262, Me-163 along with Focke Wulf Fw-190, Spitfire and Hawker Hurricane

[@ryangardner8125]

Trying to climb away from a P-38 is usually not an easy thing to do. Although the ME 262 has a considerable speed advantage over the P-38, and a better climb rate than most WW2 fighters, the P-38 has a greater climb rate than the ME 262. However, if a P-38 and ME 262 are both at their maximum climb rate the ME 262 should cover horizontal distance more quickly; but the P-38's combination of speed, climb rate and concentrated firepower makes it very dangerous for enemy fighters trying to climb away. It should be much safer for an ME 262 to dive away, since the P-38's maximum safe diving speed was limited.

[@radiozelaza]

That silly movie about black pilots in their Mustangs had that scene in which one heroic Mustang pilot went head to head against a Me 262 and was hit with a torrent of 30mm bullets which he and his plane survived lol

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ahah ya that was a bunch of hogwash