Russian Waffen-SS: the Kaminski Brigade (SS RONA)

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History Hustle

History Hustle

2 жыл бұрын

This video is about Russian collaboration in World War II and focuses on the SS RONA, also known as the Kaminsky Brigade led by Bronislav Kaminsky. This unit's full name was the Waffen-Sturm-Brigade der SS RONA and later it became known as the 29th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS RONA (1st Russian). They ruled over the so-called Lokot Autonomy (or Lokot Autonomous Region) which was under control by Konstantin Voskoboynik and after his death Kaminsky rose to power. They unleashed a reign of terror in the Lokot and later helped the Germans with crushing the 1944 Warsaw Uprising. Eventually the unit was merged into the Russian Liberation Army (ROA) under collaborating general Andrey Vlasov. He would later establish the Russian People's Liberation Committee (KONR).
History Hustle presents: Russian Waffen-SS: the SS RONA (Kaminski Brigade).
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- The Unknown Eastern Front. The Wehrmacht and Hitler's Foreign Soldiers (Rolf-Dieter Müller).
- Hitler's Russian & Cossack Allies 1941-45 [Men-at-arms] (Nigel Thomas).
- Joining Hitler's Crusade. European Nations and the Invasion of the Soviet Union, 1941 (David Stahel) The Soviet Union (Oleg Beyda and Igor Petrov).
- Russia's War (Richard Overy).
- Rising '44: The Battle for Warsaw (Norman Davies).
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@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Russian Collaboration in WW2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzTm2pua7iiqMU Belarusian Collaboration in WW2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpOyiqCBqNVjprc Cossack Collaboration in WW2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mWa7iWx6iruEZ9k
@mordok7987
@mordok7987 2 жыл бұрын
There is a problem with the quality of the video. Its only disponible on 360p
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Soon! I uploaded late.
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
the best source of information about Lakot Republic you can find here KZbin "Запретная тема: Локотская республика. Писатель Сергей Верёвкин" . as a Litwin I don't like what they did in Eastern Belarus in 1944 still. 1) the LR was located on ethic Belarusian lands (the GDL) ethic Muscovites are too slavish , they ´d never pull off it. 2) the L. residence to Moscow commie occupation hold until 70s. 3) upraise against soviet stalinists started from day 1 of the Barbarossa operation , there are bunch of reports from the red army solders and officers about VERY hostile locals, the stalinists solders didn´t go unarmed , and attacks were reported as well 3) economic LR was way much better than during stalinsit occupation, the old people still speak about it 4) no question that LR had the majority support, the LR control own territory very well 5) you didn´t mention that so called partisans (the local call them for the bandits ) WERE PART OF NKVD !!! so called partisans who attack the LR were not the "pissed" locals, exception some local commies who where FORCED IN BY NKVD men. 6) some Jews were active in The LR administration, situation with the Jews is very unclean of cos , very controversial topic 7) Moscow "Liberals" (Chubais Brother ) are in love with the LR , they believe that the LR is a good example that Muscovy can be run as a normal country.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
@@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 Thanks for sharing.
@mordok7987
@mordok7987 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle im curious to know. We all heared the story of turing and ultra. I know the axis during ww2 were able to crack some of the allies millitary codes. What was the axis history about those axis decoding attempt? What was the units or groups involved? Any chance to see an episode on this subject?
@sdgjklklklko8225
@sdgjklklklko8225 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I've studied WW2 and SS quite a bit and this is the first time I heard that Russians also fought in the SS. Keep up the excellent work as always! Much respect.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome to read. Thanks for replying.
@Im.justa.girl_
@Im.justa.girl_ 2 жыл бұрын
Jews fought in ss as well.
@gibraltersteamboatco888
@gibraltersteamboatco888 2 жыл бұрын
Great video BZ. What they did in the Zieleniak camp, Radium institute and Kolonia Staszica during the Ochota Massacre, are among the worst crimes and atrocities of the war. When the remnants of Kaminski's brigade were planned to be folded into General Andrey Vlasov's Russian Liberation Army. Vlasov protested, calling them "mercenaries," and only agreed to include one out of every ten members of the brigade into his army after careful examination.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting that so late in the war Vlasov was still picky about who to choose. But I understand it though.
@livewallberg
@livewallberg 5 ай бұрын
No matter the side the fought on they were number one in torture, rape and murder. Nothing has changed as we can see today in ukraine.
@marcoskehl
@marcoskehl 2 жыл бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="29">0:29</a> ϟϟ RONA. "They were so brutal, that even the ϟϟ distanced itself from it." That statement explains enough for me. What a dark gang in a dark times. Obrigado, Stefan! 🇧🇷
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed, thanks for replying.
@dowmont6209
@dowmont6209 Жыл бұрын
Yes its true. After the death of Kaminsky psrt of them united eith Vlasov army and than they fought against germans during Prague uprising. When they fought against a german SS division hand-to-hand SS were scared and retreated. Just imagine this. You are just a simple village russian guy from Bryansk oblast and you just dont like the soviets,germans came to your town and 3 years later you are killing civilians in Warsaw,and 1 more year later you are fighting against german SS near Prague. Insane story.
@somethinggreat1750
@somethinggreat1750 Жыл бұрын
Well no suprise to me russians are worse in killing than the germans them self.
@davidraper5798
@davidraper5798 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting and appalling. It says a lot for Communism that so many Russians were prepared to fight against it. Thankyou.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@rjames3981
@rjames3981 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting also to see a video on Berling’s Polish army that fought against the Germans with the Red Army in cooperation with the ZPP (Union of Polish Patriots). Also some of the German and other east European emigres that worked in cooperation with Red Army. Tito’s Yugoslav Partizans also.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 2 жыл бұрын
24 million Russians died.
@jamesgarner327
@jamesgarner327 Жыл бұрын
@@casteretpollux 24 millions soviets, from all ethnic groups...
@user-hk6my4td9e
@user-hk6my4td9e 7 ай бұрын
Compared to the number of Russians in the Red Army, Kaminsky’s brigade is nothing.
@jamesgibbs7872
@jamesgibbs7872 2 жыл бұрын
This is something that I never heard about in my University WW2 Russian Military History course! Wars are the worst horrors of Humankind! Great lecture!
@otisfreeman8766
@otisfreeman8766 2 жыл бұрын
Wars are unfortunately terrible and brutal.
@JM-qb2kd
@JM-qb2kd 2 жыл бұрын
I’m personally not at all surprised. Much of courses miss many many things.. and it’s tends to go that if you care to learn these type of things about history.. many times it will have to be done on ur own research.
@christopherellis2663
@christopherellis2663 2 жыл бұрын
Surprise! Reality bites.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, James!
@mr.onbekend7959
@mr.onbekend7959 2 жыл бұрын
Well, that was a shitty course then since this subject is not exactly a secret and quite wellknown
@tonnywildweasel8138
@tonnywildweasel8138 2 жыл бұрын
Had read about Kaminski and Dirlewanger, the horrible crimes these men committed.. Makes one sick. Good vid again, Teach! Greets from the Netherlands 🌷, T.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Very sick indeed. Thanks for replying!
@sg76hr
@sg76hr 2 жыл бұрын
And now hypocrite Putin "denazificate"Ukraine!
@jscatt6123
@jscatt6123 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@8000296
@8000296 2 жыл бұрын
Another great one Stefan!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@danielhammersley2869
@danielhammersley2869 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, Professor! Distinguishing between the ROA & RONA is one historiographical error many make. Kaminski's outfit had different origins than Vlasov's army. People forget that there was considerable anti-Stalin/ anti-Communist feeling after the Ribbentrop Pact in the Baltics, the Holodomor of Ukraine, and even within Russia itself. The German Nazi movement of course being divided on its racist ideology failed to take advantage unilaterally until 1945, by which time the end was near, and Stalin's wrath against these men and women was weeks away. Thank you once more!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply.
@danielhammersley2869
@danielhammersley2869 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle , You are most welcome, sir!
@shutup2751
@shutup2751 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielhammersley2869 i think that is the most overlooked question of the war, what if germans gave soviet pows the option to switch sides, the germans insane racial policies were doing undoing funny enough
@danielhammersley2869
@danielhammersley2869 2 жыл бұрын
@@shutup2751 As Professor Stefan pointed out, the German Nazi ideology did not come around until 1945 to the Nazi-pragmatists viewpoint. By then, it was too late. The Nazi-German Reich intended a war of annihilation, and only AFTER the 1941 losses in manpower in the Ostkrieg did they realize they needed more than the Hiwi-forces in 1942. By 1943, post Kursk offensive/ Soviet Counter offensives, Germany had lost momentum, and manpower and so increased these ad-hoc Units from Russia, and Ukrainian nationalities. Had the German Nazi's been more pragmatic at the beginning is the big what-if we will never know the truth of.
@shawnflynn1713
@shawnflynn1713 2 жыл бұрын
Love the coat and armband. Really cool effort you put in this video. Keep up the good work.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@gumdeo
@gumdeo 2 жыл бұрын
Kaminski was an odd fellow. Born in Russia to a Polish father and German mother, yet he is most well-known for atrocities against Poles.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
True.
@johnh.tuomala4379
@johnh.tuomala4379 2 жыл бұрын
No wonder he spoke fluent German, which no doubt impressed his captors. He also (courtesy of Stalin) endured a five-year stint in the Gulag before the war.
@LuckySkittlez
@LuckySkittlez Жыл бұрын
This was my relative
@manubishe
@manubishe Жыл бұрын
What's odd about that? Hate for own parents is a known thing. Today it's going childfree, with whatever reason/excuse Yesterday it was 'imma murd3R your nation'.
@polmick
@polmick 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍excellent as always 👏👏
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@mammuchan8923
@mammuchan8923 2 жыл бұрын
Delivering superb content as usual ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️. It still surprises me how much of war is not black and white but one super confusing mass of shades of grey. Political expediency or pure survival or any number of other reasons drove people to alliances they would never have made under normal circumstances. Only one thing seems certain though, it ended badly for everybody by the sounds of it.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks once again for your reply!
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 жыл бұрын
We are seeing this in Ukraine as well right now.
@impcinder100
@impcinder100 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and information. Thank you.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying!
@the_old_bones1744
@the_old_bones1744 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo meneer Stefan. Ik heb weer aandachtig zitten kijken en luisteren. Dank u wel hiervoor.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Fijn om te lezen. Dank voor je bericht. Nog een fijne zondag.
@otisfreeman8766
@otisfreeman8766 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid for Saturday morning. Cheers my friend.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers!
@marykrueger6039
@marykrueger6039 2 жыл бұрын
Another great job. Love your channel.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mary, thanks for replying!
@camilla_k97
@camilla_k97 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! I knew about this unit from my childhood. I was born in Russia, lived there for a few years, and I like history so much. This military unit was really cruel. However, it's possible to understand everyone, who fought for Germans against bolshevism. Both ideologies were extremely brutal and aggressive. I think, people from the Russian Liberation movement had a right to choose between two evils. My ancestors were neither members of Russian collaboration, nor soldiers of the Red army. My mother, who's Russian, actually, has Hungarian roots, we are Catholics, and during WW2 her and my ancestors were part of the Hungarian Army (allied with Germany).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting to read. Thanks for sharing this.
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
Great video....complicated story!!!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
All KZbin history channels are under extra scrutiny now with the war in Ukraine...I'm as guilty as any of this scrutiny and I've seen some channels take serious criticism in their comments for perceived lack of objectivity...I've unsubscribed from 1 enjoyable channel for its naked anti Russian commentary...your subscribers are usually knowledgeable and opinionated...as are you!!! Walk that tightrope Dude!!! I'll stick with you until you become pro NATO or virulently Russophobic...even then I'll criticise you first.......
@adoramus
@adoramus 23 күн бұрын
Another most interesting video.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching.
@Pfsif
@Pfsif 2 жыл бұрын
I liked the way you advertised your channel in the comment section on the Mark Felton channel.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I found it very funny we released a video at the same time.
@randyhavard6084
@randyhavard6084 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Randy.
@xvsj5833
@xvsj5833 2 жыл бұрын
Stefan, 👏👏👏👏👏 I appreciate and applaud you willingness to share your incredible knowledge. Thank you :) Jesse , stay safe 🇺🇸
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse, many thanks for your reply! 👍
@misaelaguirre1617
@misaelaguirre1617 2 жыл бұрын
Good one bro. You're information si very complety. Perhaps one day you could speak about the atlantic war
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Atlantic War is not really my thing. Sorry.
@misaelaguirre1617
@misaelaguirre1617 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle how about north afrika campaign?
@jackavery7179
@jackavery7179 2 жыл бұрын
Very fascinating
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jack!
@ricardogaspar8545
@ricardogaspar8545 2 жыл бұрын
Another great vídeo.Maybe in the future you may considerer doing one about Finish volunters in Eastern Front.Who knows what the future may bring to that Region.And maybe someone in Rússia today should see this vídeo and learn something about its own history.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. One day more about the Finns, cannot tell when.
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 Жыл бұрын
And what is your point? What this information can change for Russian?
@sirdarklust
@sirdarklust 2 жыл бұрын
The politics of the USSR occupied areas was far more complex than people realize. Often, the choice of collaboration wasn't based on political philosophy, but on the brutality that people had experienced from the communist system, causing a lesser of the evils mindset. Hitler truly was an idiot for not realizing the manpower he had at his disposal, if he had been but a little better at treating the natives, and making even simple infantry divisions of them. They had a cause to fight for, unlike the Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, etc. Lucky for us Hitler WAS such an idiot, though. Take it easy and ding dong.
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 жыл бұрын
You're asking a lot from a junkie.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. Hope to cover more on Italians, Hungarians, Romanians, etc.
@byactus8475
@byactus8475 2 жыл бұрын
Very good!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@byactus8475
@byactus8475 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle The unpleasant questions of russian/soviet history to the official patriots.
@sammni
@sammni 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lucem.glorifico
@lucem.glorifico 2 жыл бұрын
RONA wasn't only Russian SS unit, the earliest big Russian SS unit was SS-brigade "Druzhina". And I'm not sure that it's possible to say that RONA was more (or "even more") brutal than Dirlewanger-division or some German unit else. I just remind: only in Belorussia without Kaminsky's people more than 2,500 villages were burned by German troops (most of them with residents) and 700 of them never rebuilt again. I guess it is not correct to say that RONA was more brutal than 1. SS infantry brigade, SS kavalry brigade, "travniki" or Latvian Shuma-battalions.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I did cover Druzhina in my other video about Russian collaboration.
@mhart62
@mhart62 2 жыл бұрын
Wow. I had never heard about this.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@s1d2f3
@s1d2f3 2 жыл бұрын
Once again a nice contribution, but the audio suffers
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks..what about the audio
@s1d2f3
@s1d2f3 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle You hear the typical spatial sound of a room, it reverberate clearly and it seems that the microphone is too far away. But I'm an audiophile, so nvm
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. I definitely have a reply now when people mention only non Russian collaboration.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, feel free to share and actually: did you already see my 33 mins overview of Russian collaborators? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mXzTm2pua7iiqMU
@ShubhamMishrabro
@ShubhamMishrabro 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle i don't know. Let me see
@mikefontes633
@mikefontes633 4 ай бұрын
Good work, professor! Excellent information on a little known subject! My late father was a veteran of Company B, 328th Combat Team, U.S. 26th Infantry Division in World War II.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply.
@Ale15072
@Ale15072 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👌
@shutup2751
@shutup2751 2 жыл бұрын
i like how on the map for ireland you also put in our irish name in brackets, respect
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
🇮🇪👍
@capper528
@capper528 2 жыл бұрын
great video! do you think you could do a vid on the hungarain SS? i cant find alot of info on it so it would be nice
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for replying. Did share short info on it in my video about the Hungarian WW2 Army. Don't have much information nor photo material so won't cover it anytime soon.
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
There is an excellent book on them....Stacpole publishers.....
@capper528
@capper528 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle oh its fine i was just asking if you could
@capper528
@capper528 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddoran3673 could you tell me its name?
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Pal!!!! I meant to dig out the book!!!! Give me a day....I'll write this on my hand....I'll search for it....I'm a Hungarophile...
@TheYeti308
@TheYeti308 2 жыл бұрын
I was interested how effective these chaps were , you answered that question .
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Great 👍
@alswann2702
@alswann2702 2 жыл бұрын
I'm reminded of the scene in the movie 1941 when Slim Pickins discovers Christopher Lee, a German officer, is aboard the Japanese submarine and exclaims, "I knew it!! A Natzi!! 'Yer all in cahoots!"
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't seen it..
@MoskusMoskiferus1611
@MoskusMoskiferus1611 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard anything about Them before
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you found it interesting.
@surinfarmwest6645
@surinfarmwest6645 2 жыл бұрын
Very good Stefan. If your party is not getting lively get the Kaminski Brigade and the Dirlewanger Brigade to come round! I did a lot of reading of these two a few years ago. Empty the looneybins and give them guns was the best description I could come up with.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply, Surin!
@robwatson3027
@robwatson3027 2 жыл бұрын
Just noticed that on the map behind you, the legend over the southern half of England near London is labelled "Nordirland". That's Northern Ireland in German.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
This German map gives the name of the whole country: "England and Northern Ireland". The letters of the latter word ended up over England.
@robwatson3027
@robwatson3027 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Ah, got it! Thanks!
@RealNeutronStar
@RealNeutronStar 2 жыл бұрын
One of the first!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
🥉👍
@rjames3981
@rjames3981 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. It would be interesting also to see a video on Berling’s Polish army that fought against the Germans with the Red Army in cooperation with the ZPP (Union of Polish Patriots). Also some of the German emigres that worked in cooperation with Red Army.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
For sure a topic for the future. Thanks.
@virgiljjacas1229
@virgiljjacas1229 2 жыл бұрын
Those are the ones glorified by historians. Approved by the Communist Party.
@andrzejstoszek4035
@andrzejstoszek4035 2 жыл бұрын
Magdelena Wolinska tvp wnuczka Halina Stalinowskiej morderczyni teraz pow. ze Rosjanie gorsi od zwierzat moja mama nie mogla studiowac bo wuj Florian Dabrowski bedac w Brygadach Miedz.pomogal Franco z ramienia Dwojki
@pliedtka
@pliedtka 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, Polish People's Army in the East - the army of Polish peasant, workers, captives, some minor Polish Army officers POWs, which switched sides after 1939. Berling got the job, as he was suited for recruitment following the NKWD interrogations and massacre of Polish POWs in Katyń. When Gen. Anders moved newly formed army in Russia to Palestine, the Polish Communists and Stalin decided to form a new army which would fight alongside Russians. Generally it was under trained and lacking in equipment comparing to Soviets initially, and in first battle suffered very heavy losses, partially because Stalin decided to put inexperienced soldiers under bad and stubborn Soviet commander against well trained Wermacht forces.
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 жыл бұрын
Can you discuss the fratetnization that was going on between Russians and Germans? I saw an old movie where the two sides were constantly crossing the front lines and returning.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
If I find some sources I would dive into it.
@nerozero8266
@nerozero8266 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👌
@mabbrey
@mabbrey 2 жыл бұрын
well done hus
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Mar!
@dinaravaleeva7588
@dinaravaleeva7588 Жыл бұрын
The more you learn history the more you understand that life is never black and white. Especially during war times. When I was small I had this idea of heroic soviet Russia that was always righteous. And at school I don’t remember if we were ever told about the invasion on Poland or this division. I know that there was that true heroic spirit in soviet soldiers, who were just common people, but I don’t wear “pink” glasses anymore and try to find the naked truth. Thanks!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Dinara!
@PikeBishop1
@PikeBishop1 Жыл бұрын
And yet you probably still think every Wehrmacht or even Waffen SS soldier was evil incarnate.
@user-dc9oq2pr6v
@user-dc9oq2pr6v Жыл бұрын
"\jews like you are the scum of the earth
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
Mark Felton just uploaded his video about this unit. I wonder, will it bring more viewers here?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
What a coincidence!
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent breakdown. Centuries old ethnic enmities exploited by the Nazis. Also a complete misunderstanding of Nazi occupiers of how to win a war by not alienating potential allies. The brutal occupation of Poland astonished some Nazis, but people like Frank, Hoess and others thaught joyride would never end.. But they were brought to justice. It doesn't seem to ever end in Europe. 🙏🙏🇦🇺
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547
@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 2 жыл бұрын
It takes a pause for some decades. Then the blood must run freely....
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@@terraflow__bryanburdo4547 👍💯
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Phil, thanks for your reply.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Always a pleasure. Than you for you reply Stefan. 🇦🇺👍
@eleanorkett1129
@eleanorkett1129 2 жыл бұрын
I hadn’t known there were Jews among any of these breakaway Russians troops. How did the Nazis treat them?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. I don't know. Perhaps they left behind when other were evacuated to Belarus. Or it was them defecting to the partisans. I can't tell.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
I knew that you will cover this unit one day. Allow me to expand a bit on the lack of military successes of the Brigade, mentioned in the video. After committing their atrocities in Warsaw, RONA was moved to fight sgains Polish partisans in the Kampinos forest area west of the city. There they got their asses kicked, suffering heavy losses especially at Truskaw and Marianów in early September 1944. Also, speaking about collaboration, note that the Russians collaborating with Germans (including RONA) were using the same flag that the current Russian Federation does. Which is something to remember when you encounter someone arguing that the flags of Ukraine, Baltic states and the true Belarusian flag (used by the opposition to the Lukashenko's regime) are "nazi" because they were also used by collaborators (all of them being used way before that, of course).
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Artur, I am so happy you provided us with this additional information. I wasn't able to find much about the SS RONA's combat history in Warsaw. Many thanks!
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
I've read extensively on the destruction of Warsaw...an Azeri battalion also took part in the massacres but the RONA were beyond bestial....Kaminski was killed but his execution was blamed on Partisans so his "men" wouldn't mutiny....it was the greatest atrocity in European history, 90% of the city was levelled..
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 жыл бұрын
@@daviddoran3673 Was he worse than Dirlwanger?
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 Жыл бұрын
Red and black flag of Ukrainian nationalists actually never was used before WW2 and Ukrainian rebellion army
@elveheim
@elveheim 2 жыл бұрын
Just watched the same on Mark Felton channel
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Ok.
@smddsi
@smddsi 2 жыл бұрын
I read in Blowback (christoffer Simpson) that Kaminski was executed because he looted properties which should have been returned to the german army. On the other hand, we learn also that: "These troops were among the actual triggermen of the Holocaust, and were particularly active in machine-gun slayings of civilians. Some of Kaminsky’s men were also known to have titillated themselves by photographing naked Jewish women moments before murdering them. Some of the militiamen seem to have enjoyed “before and after” pictures, for a number of such prints were later discovered on the bodies of fallen Kaminsky soldiers. The Germans, however, fearing that premature publicity might wreck their “race and resettlement” schemes, soon put an end to Kaminsky’s picture-taking sessions at the edge of the executioner’s ditch." Quite interesting to learn nowadays when several countries try to rehabilitate such people as Kaminsky or Bandera.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew Kaminsky was to be rehabilitated. Thanks for sharing.
@tng2057
@tng2057 2 жыл бұрын
I read a book about the 44 Warsaw Uprising many years and learned about Kaminski and Dirlewanger’s atrocities, and appreciated how much adversities the freedom loving Poles had to overcome in those days. I see see shadows of 44Warsaw in the Ukrainian cities and I hope for better outcome this time.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Let's hope it won't get that bad. Warsaw 1944 was a terrible conflict.
@occidentadvocate.9759
@occidentadvocate.9759 2 жыл бұрын
"Freedom loving Poles"? Poland was a Facist Military dictatorship when Germany invaded in 1939. (After Poland attacked them). After the War, Polond became a Communist dictatorship. "Freedom loving". Huh. 🙄
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on the death or survival of Hitler ?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. I don't believe he survived.
@giorgosgermanidis4338
@giorgosgermanidis4338 2 жыл бұрын
please make a video for greeks from ussr that fought for germans like Constantine Kromiadi
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Good news: I will travel to Athens in a few weeks to record stuff there.
@albertmarnell9976
@albertmarnell9976 2 жыл бұрын
If the U.S. needed a long drawn out war to get out of the Great Depression, why don't people see this instead of good- guy-bad-guy and put it all on Germany? If things were bad in the U.S. and the U.S. leaders welcomed Pearl Harbor, why can't people see the total picture? A global depression takes a long time to get out of. Personally, I believe there could have been a better way. I hate the cliche' that all is fair in love and war but perhaps it is true. Well done history Stefan...as usual! Also, I have to admit that I see many areas of the United States as being filled with subhuman culture, not subhuman people. But people cling to their convictions of illogical and irrational beliefs. Humans are the bad guys, not the Germans, the Russians or the liberated people on the nudist beach in Zandvoort. Because fanaticism and ignorance is forever busy, and needs feeding. And soon, your Honor, with banners flying and with drums beating we'll be marching backward, BACKWARD, through the glorious ages of that Sixteenth Century when bigots burned the man who dared bring enlightenment and intelligence to the human mind! "Inherit the Wind" 1960...clip with Spencer Tracy.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Albert, thanks for your reply. When studying history there is a reciprocity between the specific case and the whole picture. Sometimes you have to zoom in to get a better perspective, other times you have to zoom out to grasp the full story. In this video I zoom in on a specific topic.
@albertmarnell9976
@albertmarnell9976 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle That is interesting. I understand.
@matthewwhitton5720
@matthewwhitton5720 2 жыл бұрын
The repulsion from Kaminski amongst his Nazi masters brings Pavelics Ustasha madness ( in the NDH ) to mind,…that is, I’m skeptical about any real degree of German moral or ethical objections to either of them,..it’s been written that German concerns centred far more on wasting precious troop numbers needed on the front line being forced to immerse themselves into the quagmire of the civil wars exploding across the Balkan and Eastern European areas nominally under Nazi occupation.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your insights.
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 жыл бұрын
It is questionable any Nazi leader's moral compass.
@philbachmann6398
@philbachmann6398 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said. 👍
@EarleALLEN
@EarleALLEN Жыл бұрын
says 3.6 million not 2.million in text overlay
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
I see.
@zenica12
@zenica12 2 жыл бұрын
There was also general Vasilov or Vasilev, who was captured by the Germans in Stalingrad, and he jumped ship, formed a batallion of russians who joined the Germans
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@Laufer88
@Laufer88 2 жыл бұрын
You probably meant general Vlasov.
@zenica12
@zenica12 2 жыл бұрын
@@Laufer88 yes, that one
@daviddoran3673
@daviddoran3673 2 жыл бұрын
Andrey Vlasov.....later executed. He was captured in the Volkhov pocket...now famous for weapons finding in the swamps....
@warren7389
@warren7389 2 жыл бұрын
@@zenica12 Vlasov is mentioned in the video.
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever visited the Channel Islands and looked at the Atlantic Wall ?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Not yet, hopefully one day!
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
I live on Guernsey and have travelled to all the islands. The amount of material,left is stunning. If you want some photographs let me know
@samwinchester218
@samwinchester218 2 жыл бұрын
@@criaghuges4445 do u think there was slaves under babylon too or why the question and what is the oldest big community u know?
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
Sam. Are you a child? As your level of written English is dreadful
@hanswong287
@hanswong287 Жыл бұрын
So, did Kaminski's troops and himself wear the exclusive collar patch of the 29th Waffen-SS Division? I need pictures of volunteers wearing collar pins in history
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
The only thing I can recommend is to look at the photos of him in this video.
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 Жыл бұрын
As I remember correctly yes. Kaminskiy also had German iron Cross and military rank as any other Reich's commander
@sledstorm4703
@sledstorm4703 2 жыл бұрын
Early :D
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@felixmbandandayitabi4536
@felixmbandandayitabi4536 2 жыл бұрын
As an historian, I have always asked myself if those guys had read Mein Kampf.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it.
@miguelbuisan2982
@miguelbuisan2982 2 жыл бұрын
Know the history, know the facts, the best antidote against Russian propaganda, thank you!
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your reply. Feel free to share.
@goodstuff8156
@goodstuff8156 Жыл бұрын
Slavs where never classified as subhuman by the Nazis. If they where, there would be no chance for the Kaminski Brigade or the Russian Liberation Army or any of the other countless units and army’s made up of Slavs (including in the Waffen SS) to ever exist.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Pragmatism trumped ideology here.
@yoffens1
@yoffens1 Жыл бұрын
Fuck.. holy shit. Why utube ban my comments?
@h.w.barlow6693
@h.w.barlow6693 9 ай бұрын
The Slavs were destined for extermination and removal from the east. Their racial inferiority was mentioned constantly. What are you talking about?
@mark_sugar42
@mark_sugar42 21 күн бұрын
@@yoffens1because you swear a lot
@browngreen933
@browngreen933 2 жыл бұрын
Kaminski was half Polish and half German, not Russian?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Nope.
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 Жыл бұрын
But his ancestors was from Russian empire
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
I love this man
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@criaghuges4445
@criaghuges4445 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have any thoughts on the death or survival of Hitler ?
@mladentomic7249
@mladentomic7249 2 жыл бұрын
It seems that, more-less on occupied territories there was ~1-2% collaborators of the total population.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't done the math but I believe so.
@maincoon6602
@maincoon6602 2 жыл бұрын
Can you talk about the “Ukraine Lend-Lease Act 2022”.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
This is a history channel. So no.
@csabafamin2277
@csabafamin2277 Жыл бұрын
There were white russian émigrés in the lvf, belgian and french waffen ss divisions...
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Didnt know that.
@cashmoney2412
@cashmoney2412 2 жыл бұрын
10+ reload and fire rate while drunk And 150x damage boost against non combatants 25% chance random critical hit chance against enemies if they are either a pole or jew
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
?
@cashmoney2412
@cashmoney2412 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle like if they had comedic video game stats for hoi or something.
@rudolphguarnacci197
@rudolphguarnacci197 2 жыл бұрын
Stay in mommy's basement. Live a long life.
@Mr.Zoomy.
@Mr.Zoomy. 2 жыл бұрын
Smoke and a pancake
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@KS-kb4zt
@KS-kb4zt 11 ай бұрын
Kaliningrad for Poland 👍 👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 11 ай бұрын
I see.
@Akyplaygame
@Akyplaygame 2 жыл бұрын
Most interesting waffen ss volunteers: 🇷🇸🇷🇺🇪🇪🇩🇪🇦🇲🇮🇹🇬🇧🇧🇾🇫🇮🇳🇴
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in this, please check out my playlist: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fGSlgYprjLKgetE
@Akyplaygame
@Akyplaygame Жыл бұрын
@@colddarkness1798 reason why they were refered to as Askaris, and every ethnic nongerman was kicked out of the division 1944, and Himmler ordered that.. and also they revolted in France, and tried every opportunity to just revolt, and go insane.. that SS division was a failure
@jokodihaynes419
@jokodihaynes419 2 жыл бұрын
gremans have mixed views about hiwis remind me of a love-hate relationship
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
True. Some admired them, others despised them.
@glennbeadshaw727
@glennbeadshaw727 Жыл бұрын
I'm English and I stand with Winston Churchill
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
👍
@user-xq4st9ie7r
@user-xq4st9ie7r 2 жыл бұрын
Oh a German map...
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah
@user-xq4st9ie7r
@user-xq4st9ie7r 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle Very cool
@andrzejstoszek4035
@andrzejstoszek4035 2 жыл бұрын
Co trzeci w Azowie to Rosjanin rekretuje wlasnie z tych fascynuje roa.rona ciekawe ze w Armia Estonska 10 proc tez Rosjanie ..pozdrawiamy naszych Amerykanskich przyjacial
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
English please.
@vladimirthegreen6097
@vladimirthegreen6097 Жыл бұрын
Kek
@virgiljjacas1229
@virgiljjacas1229 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE !!! Only when we face history as it was, without the bias cover up to justify the present, we will be able to behave like humans and TALK !!! ☮️🤨☮️🤨☮️🤨☮️ Each and every Eastern European nation did have the same argument against those they did consider enemies 🤔🤔🤔
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
?
@AkeN996
@AkeN996 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryHustle You can't possibly try to understand each and every single comment. Some of these comments are nonsensical, and it's only natural on any social media platform. I think that the Virgil guy thought that you posted this video as a some kind of "russofobia" instead of a documentary. 😅
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313
@hybridforcesofthegdl3313 2 жыл бұрын
the best source of information about Lakot Republic you can find here KZbin "Запретная тема: Локотская республика. Писатель Сергей Верёвкин" . as a Litwin I don't like what they did in Eastern Belarus in 1944 still. 1) the LR was located on ethic Belarusian lands (the GDL) ethic Muscovites are too slavish , they ´d never pull off it. 2) the L. residence to Moscow commie occupation hold until 70s. 3) upraise against soviet stalinists started from day 1 of the Barbarossa operation , there are bunch of reports from the red army solders and officers about VERY hostile locals, the stalinists solders didn´t go unarmed , and attacks were reported as well 3) economic LR was way much better than during stalinsit occupation, the old people still speak about it 4) no question that LR had the majority support, the LR control own territory very well 5) you didn´t mention that so called partisans (the local call them for the bandits ) WERE PART OF NKVD !!! so called partisans who attack the LR were not the "pissed" locals, exception some local commies who where FORCED IN BY NKVD men. 6) some Jews were active in The LR administration, situation with the Jews is very unclean of cos , very controversial topic 7) Moscow "Liberals" (Chubais Brother ) are in love with the LR , they believe that the LR is a good example that Muscovy can be run as a normal country.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this.
@dowmont6209
@dowmont6209 Жыл бұрын
Литвин,московия,этнически беларусская земля... Ясно,шизоид.
@theangrylizard1990
@theangrylizard1990 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a hardware store chain here in Quebec called “Rona.” I giggled every time I heard “Rona” in this video because of that…. And.. oh yeah, good to learn it wasn’t just the Ukrainians who had collaborators among them. Can we please shut up about the Azov Battalion now?
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Feel free to share this content with the hardware store :)
@jduff59
@jduff59 2 жыл бұрын
Some things never change. 99% of all soldiers are men and women of fine character, but that 1% always rears its ugly head every time there is an opportunity to unleash barbarity. We have some similar types roaming Ukraine as we speak - they do not represent soldiers, nor do they represent humanity.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
As for SS RONA, this unit did consist mostly of thugs, criminals and freebooters.
@Tictac-vn1vn
@Tictac-vn1vn 7 ай бұрын
So disgusting how the narrator slips a sentence to say that there were more Russian than Ukrainian collaborators. What the narrator omits to say is that: Russia doesn’t build monuments to Kaminski or rename streets to his name or has its president officially say that sympathies for Kaminski are a good thing. That’s the difference between Russia and Ukraine as Ukraine elevated Bandera to a National hero.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 7 ай бұрын
Whataboutism.
@stanbasov42
@stanbasov42 2 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to open a family cafe called Waffle SS ☺️
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@bigsarge2085
@bigsarge2085 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
👌
@pevnostipevnosti4871
@pevnostipevnosti4871 2 жыл бұрын
:-)
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle 2 жыл бұрын
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@CalebNorthNorman
@CalebNorthNorman Жыл бұрын
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@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
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