Russians are NOT Slavs?

[@valmarsiglia]

Saying that Russian isn't a Slavic language because Russians can't understand Polish or Czech is like saying that English isn't a Germanic language because Britons and Americans can't understand German and Dutch.

[@ievgend87]

But English speakers can understand Norwegian. And no one understands the Danes.

[@someguy4512]

@@ievgend87 uhhh I can understand english yet can't understand Norwegian what your saying?

[@hicknopunk]

If you know english, learning german is easy.

[@user-03-gsa3]

Bruh if you know Russian understand Polish is very easy

[@antianti4331]

But Russians can understand Polish. Although I have never learnt it, I can understand around 70% and the general topic which is discussed. It's all because we have a lot of words which sound similar.

[@edinev5766]

Russia : So some have said we're not actually Slavic. Bulgaria : First time?

[@ablorenz]

Bulgarians are usually called Turkic, Mongols, and Asian by many Slavs. Bulgarians have a Turkic origin - they descend from the Bulgars, who were not Slavs, at all. They also have a lot of Turkish blood from the Ottoman occupation, and are dark-skinned, and do not really look Slavic. Bulgaria also has a large Gypsy population, which led to mixing of Bulgarians with Gypsies too. Also, about 15% of Bulgaria's population is made up of ethnic Turks - most of whom are Muslims.

[@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto]

Hehe, Tataři

[@chibiromano5631]

*laughs in Tocharian

[@bigger_mibber6029]

Bulgarians are not slavs

[@ablorenz]

@Fact: Islam is wrongBulgarians are originally Turks, and had nothing to do with Slavs. They arrived from northeast Mongolia and Central Asia to Russia - and then into the Balkans.

[@arsgoetiashlomoh8303]

The fact this argument still exists is both funny and sad

[@Dimetropteryx]

I'd call these arguments pathetic and stupid.

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

I feel uncomfortable, that Setarko even felt a need to approach that nonsense.

[@Norwaymofo]

Fanatic Nationalists people are just insane people Like someone from turkey who have tested his DNA and turn out he's 80% greek and he almost kill himself lol

[@tingleblade4274]

The Vatican "sages" whispered arguments to our Polish brothers in the late Middle Ages. It is unlikely that they would have thought of such a thing themselves, not our Slavic style.

[@Nobody32990]

@@ablorenz considering Russias expansionist tendencies (since Duchinsky's time in fact) and past experiance of Poles and Ukrainians, would you blame them?

[@vladimir945]

"You are some Finno-Ugric people mixed with the Mongols" - and even if this was true, which part am I supposed to be ashamed of?

[@devenscience8894]

exactly. This whole "who's the pure Slav" thing is just white pride wrapped around ethnicities instead of color.

[@jackster2568]

@@ablorenz says the frog. Isn't your head supposed to be rolling around the boulevard, François?

[@ablorenz]

@@jackster2568 Besides, Russians are and will forever be the most superior among Slavs in every field, and one of the only people among them, that can be respected, considering history and achievements.

[@CDA138ek]

It never was about shaming. It was a reaction of Slavic nations to Russian panslavism under their boot.

[@ablorenz]

@@ms6149 Ukraine, was a part of Russia, for 4 centuries. That's not a short time. Its eastern and southeastern parts are mainly Russian-speaking; and Ukraine is very Russified. Its just the truth; and that you cannot handle.

[@Stashix]

"Czechs and Poles understand each other without problems" Yeah...

[@bandit9667]

Mhm

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

So do Russians and Ukrainians or Russians and Belarusians. So do Serb and Croats. Mutual understanding among each of the branches (Wester, Eastern, Southern) is bigger than in between the branches. And it is not "without problems", but relatively easy.

[@Mira-K]

The 100% real fact that a Pole looking for his girlfriend might be understood by Czechs as boasting about banging a hooker in the toilet..

[@slavsya]

@@Martina-Kosicanka honestly I have easier time understanding Macedonian and Bulgarian than i do with Ukrainian...yes I am a Russian

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@@slavsya Interesting. I have a hard time understadning Southern Slavs, but I wasn´t really expose to their langages for enough of time.

[@SogoNotDrunk]

When someone said Russians is not slavic people. but a finno-ugric and turkic, it's a way better and easier to say "Yeah, and?". After this question around 100% people who said Russian is not Slavic release their true face of xenophobic racists, who thinking Turkic and Finno-Ugric people are some asiatic hordes and barbarians, lol.

[@kopatelonline]

Попи3ди тут, ксенофобия-xуйобия, расизм. Нам поебать кто вы там по крови, главное то, что 80% славян в рашке - это потомки депортированных из Украины\Беларуси\Польши люди. То как вы вывозите наших детей из Мариуполя и других городов уже всему миру показал ваше нутро и ваши "настоящие славянские корни", чмo, и это единственная причина, почему вас rightfully считают варварами.

[@kc4276]

I’m not Russian (or Slavic or any other kind of European), but I’ve heard some Slavic nationalities say this exact thing - and I was always left speechless because of the underlying racial hatred towards asiatic peoples.

[@SogoNotDrunk]

@@kc4276 yeah, so we don't mind to be NOT a slavic, we don't care. But anyway this is a false.

[@bloodkelp]

@@SogoNotDrunk i do care

[@luckydssd]

@@kopatelonline +

[@mehanikal5639]

Every Slavic nation mixed with non-Slavic people. There are no pure Slavs.

[@SanctusBacchus]

A stupid thing to say.

[@ZeLeninovoMasoveRizoto]

@@SanctusBacchus but true on a national level.

[@Neversa]

Hungarians are more Slavic than Russians

[@greggemerer8251]

@@SanctusBacchus Its actually quite true. Slavs as an ethnic group emerged from somewhere in west/central Ukraine, Belarus, and eastern Poland, and then moved quickly to the east, north east, west, and southwest. In all directions except for the far west(eastern, central and northern Germany), they encountered very different ethnic groups with whom they mixed: in the Balkans (the South Slavs: Serbs, Croats, Bosnians, Macedonians, and to some extent the Slovenes) it was with the Illyrians and other Dinaric types, to the east and northeast (Belorussians and Russians) it was with Finnic peoples, and in the west, southwest, and south (Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Ukrainians and Bulgarians) , it was with Turkic people, such as the Avars, Bulgars, Pechenegs, and Polovtsy. Paradoxically, it is only those who migrated to the extreme west and northwest, into eastern, central and northern Germany, who retained something of the original Slav appearance, though with time almost all of these West Slavs, except for the Sorbs, came to speak German and assimilated into the German nation - so that one may say with some truth that it is the Germans who most resemble the original Slavs. At the present time, it is more precise to think of the Slavs as being linked by closely related languages, rather than by ethno-racial linkages, which, for example, in the case of Russians or Poles on one side, and the Balkan Slavs on the other, are rather weak. To reiterate, it is probably the Sorbs or Lusatians (also known as Wends to the Germans), who most closely and evenly resemble what the Slavs probably looked like when they first appeared out of their swampy East European heimat. A good source on this is the physical anthropologist Carleton Coon.

[@wilhelma.3301]

@@Neversa ? Are you stupid? Hungarians roots goes back to finnland

[@harakitty2058]

As a person who is actually of finno-ugric and turkic ancestry, all I can say is thanks to ukrainians who propagandize this theory, now you are hated not only by ethnic russians but also pretty much every minority within russia, mari, udmurt, tatars, bashkirs, yakuts, khantys and 70+ other. Bashing russians saying that they are finno-ugric, mongoloid or turkic as if that was something to be ashamed of is pretty disrespectful to these ethnicities as well.

[@efim_sivacholi]

Это поиск эдентичности, своих корней, фундамента на который можно опереться. Отсюда и комплексы с нациналистическим окрасом. Самодостаточные народы этого делать не будут. Обычная ущербность, как у Гитлера по поводу арийцев.

[@ЧерныйЛебедь-н5м]

Полностью согласна.

[@hokk23]

Самое обидное что сначала они говорят что Финны, Эстонцы и Венгры им братья, а потом на чистом глазу выдают что финно-угры и тюрки не люди вообще.

[@koala.justakoala4287]

No one is saying that it’s something to be ashamed of. They’re just asking russians to stop calling themselves their “brothers” and using this as an argument as to why Ukraine should unite with russia. There’s this saying that goes “russians say everything that’s russian - is slavic, to later claim that everything that is slavic - is russian”

[@harakitty2058]

@@koala.justakoala4287 yeah just like that one ukrainian girl on KZbin that claimed russians are inferior because they have finnougric blood and finnougric peoples are undeveloped and have no culture. And that's what they are being taught in schools. Russia loses absolutely nothing if people would stop thinking of it as of a slavic nation. If slavs do not consider Tchaikovsky and Dostoevsky slavic then we'll kindly accept them in our finnougric hall of fame.

[@fgjjdgb3949]

American commander: Damn it, I was sent to defend the United States, but how am I going to fight if half my unit isn't American! The first Canadian, the second Pole, the third Japanese, the fourth Briton, the fifth Vietnamese, and the sixth Russian commune. Oh, completely forgot about the one, which is both Russian and Asian. Soldier: Sir, it's Kazakh.

[@WeebMrClean]

Kazakhstan is literally EURASIAN.

[@ghostttriddder]

8 nation army peking

[@radziwill7193]

Sir, the Kazakhs were invented by Soviet Union, in fact its Kyrgyz.

[@Neversa]

Kazakhs are not Russian tho

[@Neversa]

@@radziwill7193 Kazakh Khanate was established in 1465, 450 years before the USSR. We're related to Kyrgyz closely, but we're not the same. Back in 1827, A. I. Lyovshin argued that "the Kyrgyz is the name of a completely different people ... the name "Kasak" ... belongs to the Kyrgyz-Kaisak hordes from the beginning of their existence, they do not call themselves otherwise." In the book of the Russian ethnographer and geographer EK Meyendorff "A Journey from Orenburg to Bukhara", written at the beginning of the 19th century, it is noted that "they [Kazakhs] do not call themselves Kirghiz, but call themselves "Khassakhs", which means" horseman "- according to some, "warrior" - in the opinion of others. They claim that the Bashkirs call them Kyrgyz, but they do not know where this word came from. "

[@dawudsandstorm7852]

By this logic Ukrainians and Bulgarians are not Slavs because they had non-Slavic ruling class during their early founding.

[@solis9482]

Ukrainians is slavs , bruh

[@ezzovonachalm7534]

B' lgarian are a türkoid mixt that was SLAVISED as they converted to orthodoxy.

[@Мразъ-с5я]

@@ezzovonachalm7534nope, there were already slavic people in bulgaria at the time of the conversion, thats why bulgaria converted to christianity, the iranoturcik protobulgars where conofined in the far northeast of the country, by themselves, they never wanted to mix with slavs and abandon tengrism, and in this way they disappeared generation after generation, alone. Only a few a of them mixed with the slavs but at the very end when no much was left fo them. today bulgarians would looke really different if really they were slavised iranoturks, like they would have been like asians, which is not absolutely the case. Just go there and see. Иди и смотри.

[@solis9482]

@Fritz Frenkel by that logic , no one is slav

[@СнежныйДжони]

isn't word '" rus' " itself of norse origin?

[@mithrandirstormcrow4952]

Damn, historical grudges and xenophobia mixed in with nationalism leads to some crazy shit.

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

Yeah... I have never thought that Russians can be anything but Slavs! In fact, in my home country (the US), a lot of people even think that the term "Slav" _only_ means "Russian"! I can live with non-Russians being Slavs, but not Russians being non-Slavs!

[@Nobody32990]

Quick reminder, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was partitioned by the Russian Empire and Poles fought for 120 years to regain independence. Duchinsky's theory can be seen as for of intellectual fight against russification efforts.

[@dsnodgrass4843]

Yep.

[@apolon92s]

Ifrom Russia.. in Russia not many slavic... Russia - multinational shit. Nition uberalles. Save blood -first

[@SpongeChadSquareJaw]

@@apolon92s Можешь быть девственником, тогда твоя кровь точно останется чистой.

[@matyastaller9759]

5:12 In my opinion, to say that Czechs and Poles can "understand each other without problems" is an overstatement to say the least. I mean, some Czechs have trouble even with Slovak if spoken too fast, and these two languages really are basically the same thing.

[@kingofdragonsgameplay1369]

And they say Russian propaganda is bad, lol

[@haziagat]

I mean, it’s not necessarily good

[@enduser8410]

Both are bad. We cannot let both sides' media push this polarization and sensationalism or else things will never get solved between the two.

[@kingofdragonsgameplay1369]

@@enduser8410 yeah, no. The only thing we can do to not let “media push this polarisation…” is censorship, which is against freedom of speech. In terms of Russian propaganda, the only way to discredit it is to stop feeding it fuel. Western media and/or politicians are always on the offensive and making points which Russia can easily refute or argue against. This is visible in international political debates, for example, where any accusations towards Russia are quickly and effectively countered, whether it would be with truth or a believable lie. This means Russia always has the final word, and thus is always a political victor. In addition, it is blatantly obvious that almost all media outlets, whether it would be in Russia or the West, have very high degrees of propaganda. The only difference is, Russian media is united behind a single ideology, while Western media is divided to argue against themselves.

[@huldanoren951]

@@kingofdragonsgameplay1369 When we say we will combat misinformation, we don't mean censorship, we mean that we should present the more accurate contrary information. And to some extent I do believe that censorship is necessary when combating misinformation (even if censorship is drastically against my values), like with antivaxxers for example, since their beliefs are extremely dangerous, antivaxx propaganda should be censored.

[@Nobody32990]

Keep in mind that Franciszek's thesis was made during the time of Poles fight for independence. It wasn't made just to spite Russia it had clear purpose in mind. Considering that there were russification efforts made after the annexation of Commonwealth's lands his motives are SOMEWHAT justified.

[@OrthodoxPole81]

Thank you for this video. This reminds me of how a certain Austrian Artist who took over Germany and started WW II tried to bury the fact that many Germans have an admixture of Slavic ancestry and are not purely German.

[@bobdollaz3391]

Hitler didn't believe those were Slavs

[@malaxes]

@@bobdollaz3391 Germany is an extension of Roman Empire which includes conquered Slavic tribes who’s identity was change to Germanic. For expample Ariovistus described today as Germanic slave who was trained by Romans to conquer and destroy his ancestors land was actually Slavic Cheruskan (Czeruski). And this could not be more obvious by the name of the tribe that they belong to Slavic group not Germanic. Polish chronicles even says that r of the Slavic tribes from the West who were bothered by Roman-Germans moved to the East and founded Kievian Rus. Also ancient Etruscan we’re living in Italy and their language is readable today using Slavic languages especially Russian.

[@dl3472]

@@malaxes lol you russians are funny. Worry about the eastern part of russia and stay out of eurooe

[@Erix442]

@@malaxes I'm Russian but Slavic origins of the ancient Etruscan language is myth(Although it's nice if in Italy they really think so, if I understood the comment correctly). We even don't understand Etruscan language.

[@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding]

Let's be honest, the people who say Russians aren't slavs are just salty Russia used to ruled over them.

[@komodo5676]

True True

[@abbanta3002]

Ye true tbh

[@arsen2506]

Harsh, but probably true

[@WeebMrClean]

fact

[@Claudius_Ptolemy]

Massive facts

[@joepaddy7239]

I’m a pole, all the hardships my family went through due to Russia is undeniable, but that’s due to the governments not people. A Russian person is just as great of a brother to me as a Czech or Slovak. Slavia all slavs.

[@Cornyexploited]

Very good words, brother. Thank you.

[@joepaddy7239]

@@Cornyexploited It’s a reality most poles can’t accept if we don’t accept our eastern brothers then we are doomed to fall to this western degeneracy, the Rurkids led the eastern slavs to greatness yet now Putin is making to country look weak.

[@Cornyexploited]

@@joepaddy7239 In Russia, the image of Poland is demonstrated by Polish Russophobia, but few people say that Poland and Hungary are the only NATO and EU countries that still stand for family values ​​and Christian Europe. I respect the Poles for this. And history is the past. The present will also become the past. Sooner or later, the Slavic (and generally white) European peoples will have to fight a common enemy.

[@joepaddy7239]

@@Cornyexploited I truly believe us as slavs should unify, atleast then with the the power of all economies we can develop lands in the Balkans and Russia, Us western slavs need to help our fellow slavs develop so they aren’t conquered in the near future.

[@Cornyexploited]

@@joepaddy7239 conquered by whom?

[@czechpatriot2230]

In Czech Republic we have something similar. Some people think that we are infact germanic and not Slavic.

[@michaelsvec9275]

Proto si tak hezky rozumíme s Němcema a nerozumíme Polákům 😂

[@alexvsergeev]

Was in Prague in 2018, best city on Earth! Everyone thought I was Czech even though I’m Russian, so I had to speak to them in English. Also, I understood about ~50% of written words and could roughly understand the signs in the Metro. Best part was watching the football world cup in the evenings in local bars :)

[@desnicar]

From a genetics standpoint, they aren't wrong.

[@SVTDI]

@@desnicar what ? Czechs are Slavs just like Slovaks

[@desnicar]

@@SVTDI Maybe I shat the bed with the genetics part, but I've been to Prague. Culturally Czechs are closer to Germans than they are to east or south Slavs.

[@renemiko123]

I am Czech,and it's not problem for me to understand Russian. And that's why I learnt Russian. It has similar gramatic. The gramatic is more similar to Russian,than to polish,we might understand more of a polish,but our languages are completely different. Infact,we have a lot of in common with Russian language.

[@renemiko123]

@Абдульзефир nonono. Polish and Ukrainian grammar is so different from the Czech grammar. But Russian is close.

[@ClifffSVK]

For example?

[@renemiko123]

@@ClifffSVK wait. Do you mean: for example: similarities between czech and Russian grammar,or you mean why polish and Ukrainian have different grammar from the Czech or Russian?

[@ClifffSVK]

Some example where Czech and Russian are similar while others work differently.

[@renemiko123]

@@ClifffSVK for example,the endings in verbs. For example: být Biju,biješ,bije,bijem,bijete,bijоu Бить, Бью ,бьешь, бьёт, бьём, бьёте,бьют. Or jеt. Jedu, jedeš,jede,jedem,jedete,jedou Еду,едешь,едет,едем,едете,едут. It is almost same. And I hate that In ukrainian they use ы in the place where Czechs or Russians would use и or they use э while we would use е. And polish doesn't have grammar this close as Russian and Czech.

[@unums]

*Divide and Conquer.* Some political/military tactics never get old.

[@Juan-wx5xz]

Did Polish apply this tactic on Russians?

[@a_t_0_n636]

@@Juan-wx5xz en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheism

[@MarkSmith-hu2yf]

Yes. Soviet were excellent in this with probably the biggest deportations in human history: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union

[@gasalsvift5356]

what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.

[@TheProjectVoid]

Just another way to try to dehumanize the Rus. Is what the neo-nationalist groups try to do in order to gain power in there home countries to use a common foe to trick their populace

[@_Allvar_]

The most annoying part for me, and it's global propaganda for real, is that Russians can't understand other Slavic languages. This shit is frustrating. Imagine growing up in Chernozem'e (near Ukraine's Charkov), half of your buddies (and family) speaking a southern Russian (which sounds like Ukrainian for northern Russians). And it's not just about neighbor Ukraine, Belorussian was also around all the time, you've talked to them in Russian and they understood, they talked to you in Belorussian - and you get it all. You were raised in an orthodox family, so you can understand how close is Church-Slavic to southern Slavic languages, you can even read Serbian and Bulgarian without any special training! But a bit later all the fckn internet starting to insist that Russians can't understand Slavic languages. Bruuuuuuuh

[@paprika_pol]

There was a language reform in Russia in 1918. It was slightly changed and made to sound more solid. As it was, it was almost indistinguishable from the current Ukrainian, only there were more sounds and letters

[@wizdmovie9957]

Kharkiv*

[@gurglejug627]

yeah exactly - I speak basic Russian but can understand most of what Serbs say if they speak slowly, and Serb friends speak with Russian friends in front of me and usually (not always) I understand everything said. It's a load of Ukro balls this 'Russians are not Slavs nonsense' - even the Polish ultra nationalist geezer was from Kiev and chose to live in France. Hmm. Wonder why?

[@wizdmovie9957]

@ It’s Kyiv

[@gurglejug627]

@ Kiev, in English

[@timax4114]

This is funny, i wonder what those 'scientist' would think of about us South Slavs.

[@ablorenz]

South Slavs also sometimes get called "Turks" because of the Ottoman occupation.

[@gasalsvift5356]

what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.

[@frostflower5555]

DNA of south Slavs ie former Yugoslavia has hardly any Middle Eastern DNA. They may have a bit of Siberian though like other European nations. They also have some Greek DNA.

[@tomobakac6177]

@ALEKSANDAR turčine

[@RealPolitik-dy4it]

This whole argument is like the pot calling the kettle black. Yes. Russians are mixed with Finno-Ugric People's. Heck, some are mixed with Native Siberians. In fact, I myself have some Volga Tatar Ancestry. But it isn't like Ukrainians, Czech's, Serbs, or Poles are "pureblood". Ukrainians are mixed with Romanians, Hungarians, and Turks. Czechs are mixed with Germans. So are Poles to an extent. Serbs are mixed with Turks and Hungarians. There is nothing wrong with any of that. Having some Finnic and Turkic Ancestry does not make a Slav less Slavic. Let's not get started on language just for the simple fact that ALL slavic languages are full of Greek, Latin, French, and English loanwords. If anything, such rhetoric is reminiscent of Germany in the 1930's.

[@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960]

Among Russians, except for the north, Western Eurasia is distributed by 95-97%, which is almost the same as Eastern Europe. Yes, Russians from the north have a partially overestimated East Eurasian admixture due to mixing with other peoples of the Volga-Ural group of the Finnic branch, but they themselves are genetically very different from the central and southern Russians. The Mongolian haplogroup, like Q and C, is practically absent in Russians.

[@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960]

An extensive analysis of the Russian pool of paternal lines presented here establishes the following general features: (1) the insignificance of the eastern gene flow, emphasized by the absence of typical haplogroups of Eastern and Central Asia; (2) well-pronounced gradients from north to south of specific haplogroups in the historical Russian region; (3) division of its general diversity into northern and central-southern populations; (4) the proximity of the northern populations to the Northeastern and eastern non-Slavic populations, which implies extensive assimilation or even direct language change; Russian Russians (5) lower Y-chromosomal variations throughout central-southern historical Russia compared to high variations among northern Russians; (6) proximity, achievement of virtual coincidence in the MDS plot, in the Y-chromosomal variation between central-southern Russians with Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles; and (7) this significant intra-ethnic differentiation of the North Russian population is the only exception to the rule found; in the broader European context, interethnic (mainly linguistic) differences strongly prevail. Russian Russians' Y-chromosome pool in their historical settlement zone is predominantly a composite composite of their Proto-Slavic heritage and, in particular, in the Russian North, extensive admixture with Finno-Ugric speakers. This bipartite scenario of the main sources of origin of modern ethnic Russians is supported by the analysis of classical markers presented here and can be used as a working hypothesis for a better understanding of the genetic diversity and demographic history of Eurasian populations. Its patrilineal aspect can be further clarified by a detailed study of STR variations in phylogenetic biliallelic haplogroups, although new informative SNPs should be identified for deeper progress, in particular, given that only a small part of the Y chromosome has been studied so far for markers potentially informative for phylogeographic research3. www.cell.com/fulltext/S0002-9297%2807%2900025-0

[@GON-f9l]

@@mikhaildrozdovsky.9960 North russians are still, mostly Slavs. Also, finno-ugric people are more genetycally Western Eurasian rather than Eastern Eurasian. The only people with high East Eurasian genes are the finno-ugric who live on the east of the ural mountains, like the Nenets, Mansi or the Khanty people. But in contrast, finnic people Who live on European part of Russia, have mostly European features.

[@andreilukyanov4286]

@@GON-f9l Truth is that ethnic Russians are all Slavs. Finno-Ugric people are the LINGUISTIC group of peoples. If your trad language and culture are Finno-Ugric, then these people are Finno-Ugric. There is no such thing as "a Finno-Ugric blood". Slavs are the same.

[@SteelyGlow]

​@@Nezalez Please restrain from alternative history BS

[@eldermoose7938]

clearly the people making language argument don't know how linguistics works. Linguistic groups are based on root origins traced back to the earliest common ancestor, not based on which languages they are the most similar to now. It's the same logic that makes people believe English is a romance language when it's Germanic. English's proximity to a French and the immense cultural influence it had on it is a major reason why the English vocabulary has so many romance words, but grammatically still similar to German and other Germanic languages even if their unintelligible. It just saddens me that people are using political gradiences to justify othering a peoples cultural heritage.

[@ded_omlt4934]

And still Russian changed not so much as English, I, myself Russian still can understand much of slavic languages, if they speak slower. Polish and Czech are hardest to understand.

[@muhammadtroll2835]

Same issue here in North Africa, people keep calling each others "fake" over difference in pronounciation and loanwords in Darija dialects lol

[@frostflower5555]

Half of Germany was Slavic. The toponyms are revealing too.

[@pawelp8307]

English is close to German ?

[@avenger4027]

That's the thing, Muscovite language had no "common ancestor". It is an artificial creation of the likes of Lomonosov.

[@tomasspace4819]

"Czechs and poles understand each other without problems." Yeah in english. Czechs and Slovaks understand each other. Some words are the same so understanding some parts is possible but its definetly not "without problems".

[@napoleonbonaparte4396]

Did you notice Boris Yeltsin and Raisa Gorbachova had narrow eyes? So do Hungarians.

[@Dziki_z_Lasu]

More problematic are false friends and big possibility that a Pole or Czech will burst with a laughter. Slovakian is like a more like a difficult dialect to both languages.

[@LordDamianus]

You are stupid. We understand our languages quite well if we use basic words and sentences. I mean, we don't need to talk about politics once we meet.

[@genzo53]

Who the hell would think Russians aren't slavs?! Russians are the slavvest slavs that ever slavved. And that's coming from a Bulgarian. We gave you the alphabet, BTW, and thanks for the liberation, we'll be forever grateful.

[@danielforeroc]

It's also kinda sad that some bulgarians and romanians downplay the role of Russia in the liberation of the balkans, it's true that Russia had imperialistic ambitions, just as any other great power of the time did, but saying things that "Russia never fought for our liberty, they only fought for getting puppet states", is wrong, no country liberated by Russia became a puppet, Serbia and Montenegro had their own rulling dinasties, while in Greece, Romania and Bulgaria, german nobles, not russians, became monarchs, and were imposed by the west. And Bulgaria is the greatest example, if Bulgaria was a russian puppet, how did they join WWI in the side that was fighting against Russia? Btw, I'm only talking about imperial times, the soviet times are more complicated.

[@coa8752]

@@danielforeroc for bulgaria it could be based on the peace contract of San stefano where Bulgaria would be united and defacto independent from the ottoman empire under the condition of being a vassal to russia.

[@tingleblade4274]

The Greeks translated the sacred texts into existing languages into existing alphabets. There is no need to spread myths that the Slavs did not have their own letter, when all peoples had it. People were no more stupid than they are now.

[@huldanoren951]

"Slavvest Slavs that ever slavved" GOLD

[@taterkaze9428]

"Russians are the slavvest slavs that ever slavved." You're Bulgarian? You've got English nailed. Props.

[@einmuzi]

Wasn't that debunked by Life of Boris in the video "Rating countries by slavness - Travel with Boris" where Russia scored an 11/10 in slavness?

[@msthing]

yes Boris should be the decisive voice on this matter

[@huldanoren951]

@@msthing r/whooosh

[@huldanoren951]

@sejak He didn't get the joke...?

[@bandit9667]

@@huldanoren951 pretty sure he was actually going along with it

[@blueberrybuttercake2942]

@@huldanoren951 He clearly get the joke

[@dispen275]

"Russians are NOT Slavs?" *laughs maniacally in Polish*

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

Why? I think it is quite sad to be this dishonest

[@dispen275]

@@Martina-Kosicanka Almoust nobody in Poland takes it seriously, we say that to annoy the Russians

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@@dispen275 OK, accepted, I guess. The good ol´ tradition of trolling?

[@kubajackiewicz2]

@@Martina-Kosicanka i guess, i never even heard that this is an issue that exists

[@dispen275]

@@Martina-KosicankaOf course it is tradition. When Russian says "go left" the Pole goes right just to annoy him We say that not becouse we really think that but becouse Russians absolutely hate it I mean existance of this video is proof enough that they do

[@boogeyman4937]

"Even" as a Croat, I'll say, Russians are world wide brand for all the Slavs, just as we say Kalodont in term of any tooth paste. Whether the rest of us like it or not, that’s a fact.

[@isadanjan4762]

according to genetic studies, many Russian Slavs, only northern Russia is very different.

[@AkakaDomenjer]

Then you are not very intelligent croat.

[@dowmont6209]

@@isadanjan4762 Not very.

[@dowmont6209]

@@isadanjan4762 They are also slavs with some northeuropean influence.

[@NameUserOf]

This doesn't make sense. Slavs existed before muscovits. Russian language was created in 18th century. Rurik probably didn't exist as there no direct mention in any document outside the one that was written centuries after without mentioning the source.

[@southukraine9339]

Those "funny pictures" are always not telling the full truth. Like at 9:05 Every slav says "Oko". Yes, it is true that Russians say "Glaz" but "Oko" is also a Russian word. It is another way of saying it! Russians say "Sobaka" for dogs. But they also say "Pes" like all the other Slavs! Also Russian traditional clothing looks nothing like Finnish traditional clothing!

[@t.on.y]

Так эти картинки делаются богами индукции.

[@denkapeneva2018]

Yes but is skythian iranic origin the word pes bulgars !!!

[@Sweetasthesun]

I am ethnic russian living I'm Sweden. I guess the Vikings are back home after a detour in Russia. Well I have a little ukrainian and belarusian blood too. 🇷🇺🇧🇾🇺🇦

[@alekz1235]

I also have east slavic blood and live in Sweden

[@Sweetasthesun]

@@alekz1235 Lovely! 🥰 // Elina

[@lowskillcamper]

I was born and raised in Russia, I am half Tatar and half Bashkir, both my mother and my father are half Tatar and half Bashkir. My wife is Ukrainian born in Kazakhstan. We now live in Sweden too. Of what nationality is our 4 y. o. son who happened to have blonde hair and blue eyes? XD Funny that it was yesterday I've been discussing with him what nationalities are, and what a nonsense nationalistic hatred is.

[@Zer0sHi]

Повезло повезло, мне бы в Швецию(((

[@liars6495]

are you sweden the country ?

[@bacnguyen9304]

If the Russian somehow became mongols after 250 years of occupation doesn't that mean Poles , Ukrainians, Belarusian also became Russians ??? They just admits they are Russian😂😂😂, you guys literally gave Putin the chance to justify war 😂😂😂

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@Кошка-сокровище As some ex- North Korean spy said (interview by Asian Boss channel, recently), it is not wise to predict end of any war. You could never really know all the possible issues.

[@bacnguyen9304]

@@Martina-Kosicanka Russian military is pretty much geared for those fights and recent combat from Ukraine in 2014-15 didn't look good .

[@questionableargumentations1364]

@@bacnguyen9304 you do realize that in 2014 Ukraine didn't even had good army

[@questionableargumentations1364]

@Кошка-сокровище ah yes, Russian speaking "facts"

[@questionableargumentations1364]

@@bacnguyen9304 they became mongols not from occupation tho, they have mongolian roots, but yeah they are not completely mongols

[@polishimam4956]

As someone from Poland, regardless of troubled History. I always viewed Russia to be Slavic, not by their culture since their culture is a bit different but somewhat similar to other slavic cultures but by their language since it's some what similar. Something people failed to understand is, every country has their own culture, differently but coming from the same tribe, we need to learn to respect that🇵🇱🇷🇺💞

[@kishmishkashmiri]

Are you really Muslim living in Poland ?

[@polishimam4956]

@@kishmishkashmiri I'm a revert to Islam Alhamdulilah, born in Poland but currently living in England

[@kishmishkashmiri]

@@polishimam4956 Knew it. It’s always the diaspora who fall for the lies of the pagan stone worshippers.

[@margaritaclenow9671]

@@polishimam4956 I want to thank you so much, I’m Russian and even though the government is shit the *150 million* citizens of Russia that live are not, I hope this horrible war ends soon because no good has come out of it from any side, Russia or Ukraine. Russians are just as much Slavs as Ukrainians and Pols and other Slavs are. We may be different but we are still Slavs. May there be clear sky’s over our heads soon! Спасибо!

[@87890-]

poland is russia, all slavic langauge and slavic countries originated by in russia its crazy that this topic exist, its a shame that the ukraine war, they all fire russia

[@MorrocanDarijaArab]

Ukraine was also occupied by mongols

[@ZIEMOWITIUS]

Yes, briefly. Then the Lithuanians and Poles occupied most of it, especially the Western part.

[@MorrocanDarijaArab]

@@ZIEMOWITIUS the mongols ruled most of Ukraine for 123 years some parts longer some parts of Ukraine became mongol ( Crimean tatars ) who lived around the Black Sea learn history 123 years is not briefly

[@ZIEMOWITIUS]

@@MorrocanDarijaArab Brief compared to how long they ruled the Moskals.

[@MorrocanDarijaArab]

@@ZIEMOWITIUS the ottomans ruled the Bulgarians and Serbs for 500 hundred years and they are fine Witch is less then the mongols ruled the Russians the mongols also ruled Persia and the Caucasus nations And you don’t call any of them mongols And it’s Russian not moskal deal with it

[@nikolas.3223]

If Ukrainians follow the ideology of Franciszek Duchinsky, then they must give up half of the territory of Ukraine. That man (Polish chauvinist) said that everything east of the Dnieper River is inhabited by Muscovites. According to that ideology, the Muscovites inhabit 50% of today's Ukraine.

[@solis9482]

No one even knows Duchincky in Ukraine , dude He's polish , not ukrainian

[@gasalsvift5356]

what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.

[@ablorenz]

why are you even taking the words of some Polish plumber seriously

[@matthewsteele99]

From what I know it depends on the region Some regions' Russians have more Finnic or Ugric than Russians on average do. But if we speak of western central Russia, it's mostly Slavonic for sure

[@cianakril]

That doesn't matter at all, to be honest, as Russia was multiethnic since the get go and keeps assimilating different cultures and people up to date.

[@matthewsteele99]

@@cianakril it matters in a sense as just genetic variation studies It doesn't suddenly make all Russians not Slavic All that is Polish or Ukrainian russophobic propaganda

[@andreilukyanov4286]

genetics =/= ethnicity. A Southern French woman will have a different genetics from the Northern French woman: one will be a petite Mediterranean looking brunette, an another will be a tall blond with big boobs. One will be genetically closer to Spaniards than with her own Northern French compatriote who will on her turn be genetically closer to the Flemish people than to her own Southern French sister. Nevertheless, both are French.

[@PacianaVitez]

"The Russians do not understand other Slavic languages".Bullshit, I'm a native Russian speaker and I find the most of Slavic languages quite familiar, even Polish sounds only like a bit strange version of Ukranian. The Duchinsky version, is so beloved by the Ukranian Greco-Catholic nationalists only for political reasons.

[@Railenroute]

I have a Russian Father and Ukranian Mother, but growing up I spoke Russai nand english, I can read a write in russian, but I can undedtand ukrainian, and im learning it easily, I definetley agrre

[@udenss]

You are Moscovians, stollen identity

[@sketchingdown9710]

@@udenss hohоls are a mix of lithuanians, austrians, poles and russians genetically, same goes to the language.

[@Grizathvili]

This Sergei is a navalny brother. Navalny party is paid by the US ambassador, similar to the Zelenskyy party. Unfortunately, they had never gotten sufficient support from many Russians.

[@itspronouncednikolaj333]

Facts...i never met a Russian speaker who would not understand at least half of what someone is saying in another slavic language....i wonder who this idiot is

[@DaniilBalkans-jh2rw]

As a slav you can always understand enough similar slavic words in any sentence spoken by another slavic language speaker, to understand each other. We do this every day in the Balkans & in slavic eastern Europe. A slavic language speaker will never walk away from another dialect slavic language speaker, confused & not understood?. We done that in Yugoslavia, & in Donbass, Crimea, Russia. We all understand each other quite quickly in any conversation amongst us, older we are, the easier it is to understand other slavic language speaker.

[@Can-not.to-can]

It’s so funny and sad how people claim ethnic Russians are not Slavs when when lies are so easy to debunk by a quick Google search. Ethnic Russians are literally indistinguishable from ethnic Belarusians, some ethnic Czechs (some Czechs have German DNA), ethnic Poles, ethnic Slovaks and ethnic Ukrainians when it comes to their genetic composition. The main haplogroups among ethnic Russians are: Haplogroup R1a (Slavic) (Y-DNA) - with an average of 53.4% Haplogroup I (I1 Scandinavian - I2 Balkan) (Y-DNA) - with an average of 23.5% Haplogroup N (Baltic - Finnish) (Y-DNA) with an average of 17.3% Haplogroup R1b (Germanic) (Y-DNA) - with an average of 5.8% The claim that ethnic Russians aren’t Slavic is absurd.

[@Nezalez]

R1a never was Slavic DNA

[@DVXDemetrivs]

​@@Nezalezso 44 percent if Ukrainians not Slavic?

[@Nezalez]

@@DVXDemetrivs what?

[@DVXDemetrivs]

@@Nezalez 44% of Ukraine have r1a dna

[@antlantikov2205]

They show difference in vocabulary, sometimes Russians do use odd words but the thing is in most cases it's either 1. They use the same words with different meanings 2. It's new Russian words because old/archaic Russian was identical with the rest

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

"Koň"(a horse) could be an example, right? Nowadays Russians say "loshaď" (femininum) instead of koň (masculinum), but there are songs like Koň by Lyube and Běliy Koň by Alexandr Malinin..

[@borealevatski5167]

​@@Martina-Kosicanka "loshad'" is a general word for a horse and "koň" is still widely used, and it can mean either a male horse, but also in plural "koni" will mean just horses in general, just like "loshadi"

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@@borealevatski5167 Thanks. We Slovaks use word kôň (pronunciation kuoň) generally, but to underline, that the horse is a female we use word kobyla. Czechs use kůň (kooň) and klisna.

[@Пальцерезка]

@@Martina-Kosicanka lol, we also use word kobyla. It also can be deragotory word for fat and stocky woman.

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@@Пальцерезка Thanks for teaching me something new :)

[@yumallah]

Hey there, I'm an ethnic Vepsian (a very small Finnic indigenous group from the Russian Northwest), and as someone who's lived most of his life in St. Petersburg and therefore is constantly surrounded by ethnic Russians and Russian speakers, and speaks Russian as one of his two native languages (alongside Vepsian), I believe I may have some nice insight into this argument and where it stems. Okay, so, first of all, let me clarify - there definitely is a huge Finno-Ugric imprint in Russian culture, thanks to the Northwest Russian contributions to mainstream Russian culture. Speaking of which, Northwest Russian culture is practically identical to the culture of local ethnic Karelians and Vepsians, both a Finnic people, which means that Northwest Russians are at the very least partially descended from assimilated remnants of those ethnic groups' relatives. In fact, seeing as those Vepsians that still identify as such today generally live in very isolated areas, one can assume the surrounding ethnically Russian population are descended from those Vepsians that didn't live so faraway from larger settlements. Which is absolutely true. But that doesn't mean that the Russian identity is exactly the same as the Vepsian identity or the Karelian identity. No, they're all very different. Well, not so much these days, but before the Great October Revolution (after which the various parts of the country became much more interconnected), Vepsians, while being extremely culturally close to Russians, were noted to be often experience forms of xenophobia from surrounding Russian population, they would be picked on and generally made fun of, and were being encouraged to forget their mother tongue as soon as possible and to assimilate into the Great Russian nation. The scholars of the day usually concluded that Vepsians would become completely assimilated in 30-40 years from that point in time (which was the late 19th century and the early 20th century). But, thankfully, the Bolsheviks came to power and gave us (along with hundreds of other indigenous minorities of Soviet Russia) our own alphabet and our own literature, which our people had never been able to enjoy prior. The first ever Vepsians poets, writers, and artists started to appear in those days - which is incredible for a people that were, just a few decades ago, regarded as simple village folk, incapable of accomplishing great civilizational tasks without abandoning their own culture for another one. So, as you can see, the Russian people, while obviously being related to other indigenous peoples of Russia, are definitely an ethnic group of their own and cannot be counted as being non-Slavic.

[@northernstar3960]

Very interesting information indeed. Otherwhise who gives a crap today if Russia is slavic or not. Russia is a unique culture and civilisation forged and created in times of Peter the Great and Russian Empire. United by Russian language and centuries old friendship and Union between people and cultures inside Russia. Same as United States of America is today for example. Ukrainian, Polish and other anti-Russian activists who are claiming that Russia is not slavic state are primitive and barbaric people. Same as their impoverished agricultural countries wich are nothing more than indepted slaves and vassals to IMF, World Bank and European Union bankers and capitalists.

[@louisecorchevolle9241]

@@northernstar3960 Canado Ukrainian passed their time faking they own history and whit wash ukrainian collaborators with the nazis

[@M65V19]

@@northernstar3960Actually russians themselves "gives a crap". This is always interesting to know whose descendant are you and who are your ancestors.

[@schildpatt14]

as a Tatar, I fully support. everything was the same with us.

[@pawelp8307]

@@northernstar3960 Hello you Russian troll, it is not true that we in Poland claim that Russians are non Slavic nations. And it is not true that Poland is impoverished country, especially compared to Russia, except may be for Moscow and Petersburg.

[@Danewcielo]

I think you should have mentioned that there are genetic differences among Russians. Northern Russians are Ugro-Finnic, while Central and Southern Russians are genetically very similar to other Slavic nations, like Poles or Belarussians.

[@radziwill7193]

This is not the case. Modern Novgorod, Arkhangelsk and Pskov have the highest rate of Slavic genes. And interestingly, they have a higher IQ with Yaroslavl.

[@ablorenz]

yes, northern Russians are more Nordic.

[@yumallah]

@@radziwill7193 Because those are the largest cities of the entire Russian North (not counting the metropolitan St. Petersburg, of course), and, being the huge trade centers that they once were, they obviously attracted ethnically Slavic population from all over the Rus'. Now, venture out into the surrounding villages and smaller towns, and you'll see a completely different story... (saying all this as a North Russian/Vepsian myself btw)

[@andreisdarkside9991]

Northern Russians are not entirely ugro-finnic. Northern Russians too, are majority Slavic eastern European genetically.

[@andreisdarkside9991]

@@yumallah yeah but how many northern Russians are compared to total Russian population? I'm fully Russian and the most "north" region I have in my ancestry is Kaluga region. Same for most Russians I know. Arkhangelsk, Vologda, Leningrad regions are so sparsely populated barely anybody lives there. Русские - в своей основной массе - это именно "южные" русские, а не северные.

[@fgjjdgb3949]

It's an interesting fact. Russian internationalism was very well promoted by Orthodoxy, due to the fact that it was supranational, that helped to unite a huge number of peoples and nationalities under the leadership of first Rurikovich, and then the Romanovs.

[@radziwill7193]

It doesn't work as we imagine. Thanks to Orthodoxy, anyone who would accept Orthodoxy could be considered Russian, but all the same, only the foreign elite did this to get the title and land. Basically, mixing took a very long time, mixing accelerated only in the USSR thanks to compulsory primary education.

[@gasalsvift5356]

what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared.

[@timurermolenko2013]

@@gasalsvift5356 but Russians feel more comfortable with the history written by historians on Russian government payroll. And anything deviating from that would be seen as deviation from "commonly accepted world history". By the way ukrainians called themselves ruthenians up until 20th century

[@louisecorchevolle9241]

Prince Rurik was complete viking

[@timurermolenko2013]

@@louisecorchevolle9241 France was also ruled by English at some point

[@huldanoren951]

I thought you were gonna talk about how the Kievan Rus really were a North Germanic (Nordic) people that settled the land (since that's what vikings do) and just blended in with the Slavic people who already lived there, but I guess I was not so pleasantly surprised that this bullshit theory exists and people are seriously buying it.

[@mollof7893]

Same

[@chibiromano5631]

It's in the language tho and customs(carpets). Russian is unlike any other Slavic language. It also has strong Latin, Indo European & some Uralic influence too. So why is Polish and Ukranian so similar to eachother than Russian? Russia is a huge country and has so many ethnicities. It should be proud of its vast heritage , so what if Russia is not as Balto Slavic as Poland.It's still related to the Balkans and it's still related to the Uralics and it has Siberian Yenesian influence which makes it related to Native Americans and other Central Asians. In fact, Russian is the most Global languages of all langauges. It's the envy of the Western Europeans.

[@RaveniusSFRJ]

I highly doubt that anyone blended in. Germans have been ruling Slav countries since early beginning. Many of Russian knyaz and emperors didn't even speak or care about russian language since they almost never spoke it in courts and palaces.

[@radziwill7193]

@@chibiromano5631 Because not only Russians, but Poles, Lithuanians, Crimeans fled to the wild field to become Cossacks. And the Russian land like Kiev, Volyn, Lvov was colonized by the Poles.

[@Neversa]

That theory is absolutely proven but disliked only by Russian nationalists

[@Nebelworfer]

God, that linguistic angle is an absolute meme. Only someone with absolutely no knowledge in the field may believe this stuff. BTW, I've conversed with bolgarians decently well with neither of us actually knowing the other's language.

[@lilmil7139]

I'm Russian and I would only be glad if Russians belonged to the Finno-Ugric. Finno-Ugric is very unique in comparison with the Slavic

[@ablorenz]

that's actually true

[@lilmil7139]

@Ararune this is just my opinion, I like the Finno-Ugric culture more

[@FritzYT]

@Ararune Finno-Ugric people are a trillion times more unique than Slavs.

[@cathaneisdying]

@Ararune Why are you so pressed? It is the truth. Finno-Ugric peoples have a unique ethnicities, cultures, and languages. Northern Russians are quite Finno-Ugric in fact, they have more Nordic facial features, forming a genetic cluster with Finns and Estonians.

[@cathaneisdying]

@Ararune Are you a Polish plumber or something?

[@asgyt5064]

If Russian can't understand polish, may be polish aren't slaves

[@georgios_5342]

This is like the Albanians who claim that all the Balkans are Albanian lol

[@konars5601]

Not all, only western.

[@banzaaiiiii]

pahahaha coming from an greek

[@Nezalez]

You understand under "This is like" that slavs are Russians?

[@КурсыиностранныхязыковвМоскве]

I'm ethnic non-Russian living in Russia. And when they call Russians Finno Ugric this makes me puzzled. Because it's me and some other about 2 mln guys who are Finno-Ugric. And even speak a Finno-Ugric language which has nothing to do with Russian

[@DVXDemetrivs]

разве? я думал мы имели друг на друга влияние в виде заимствования слов в языках

[@КурсыиностранныхязыковвМоскве]

@@DVXDemetrivs влияние есть, но основа всё равно останется. Как на уровне внешности, так и структуры языка. Марийцы, например, иногда обладают таким лицом, которое ни с кем не спутаешь. А язык у нас агглютинативный, а не как у русских флективный. А когда мариец говорит на русском, то делает это с таким акцентом, который сразу отличает марийца от русского. Если он, конечно, деревенский не обрусевший. Я городской, но когда неделю в деревне безвылазно сижу, тоже потом ещё неделю говорю с акцентом по инерции, когда возвращаюсь

[@DVXDemetrivs]

@@КурсыиностранныхязыковвМоскве нет я не спорю что национальное разграничение присутствует, если бы его не было бы одни русские или кто нибудь ещё(я просто говорю взаимовлияние тоже весьма сильное присуствует). Скажу честно ни разу не слышал марийский акцент ) Далеко живу

[@КурсыиностранныхязыковвМоскве]

@@DVXDemetrivs не мудрено) тут люди иной раз про самих марийцев не слышали, не то что акцент)

[@smorcknight9547]

@@DVXDemetrivs финно-угорское вдияние на русский язык довольно мало, даже на фоне тюркского влияния. В частности, это именно русский (и древне-русский) влиял на финно-угорские, в т.ч на финнский, чем наоборот.

[@septimijemacvanin8084]

As a Serb, I never use the term Slav, because in history that term was not used. There were also designations LEŠANIN - A PEOPLE who lived in the mountains and forests, Poljani - a people who lived in the fields, since the people lived by the rivers, they bore those names. Next to Drina - Podrinci, Next to Morava - Moravci, Elbe - Polabci, etc. There was also a division on the issue of language, the same language and those who are mute....the end

[@SlavicMelodiesforthesoul]

At one point far back in time, before these tribes became independent and grew in population, Slavic people were one tribe. Probably around 100,00 people at most. So calling yourself a Slav is totally reasonable

[@monke3842]

5:12 "Russian do not understand the languages of other slavs" so Bulgaria, Serbia, Ukraine, Bosnia and Croatia and slovenia to a lesser extent do not exist ? I am Bulgarian not Russian

[@coa8752]

I don't know wether the russians can understand us but I as a serb can't understand anything they say except some occasional words

[@левыйчел-щ2д]

@@coa8752 I am russian and we can relatively easy understand only belorussian and ukrainian. Ukrainian sounds funny though, so we sometimes watch comedies in it just for lulz

[@am1d]

@@coa8752 I am a native speaker of Rus along with two other languages, who has never lived in any Slavic country (incl. Russia) and I don't understand any of the slavic languages. Funny thing is, when my Russian friends claim to understand Ukr or Belarus, I ask them what they understood from a sentence and all they can come up with is one word out of ten which has almost 100% match with Russian. Like, no shit, Sherlock. In that case, I understand it too. Some people are just full of shit and don't know what they are talking about.

[@gasalsvift5356]

what about Kingdom of Galicia (Ruthenia) which Lithuania freed from the Golden Horde in the 13th century? Lithuania to unite with Poland in 1569 was called "the principality of Lithuania, Zematii and Ruthenia", rus'kiy (ruthenian) and russkiy (russian) are different things, before 16 centuary Ukrainians Called themselfs Rusyns (in middle ages Rus' was the name of the people, and Rusin was the name of a person), and Russians appeared only in 1795 in order of Catherine; also "Russian" language was invented by Mikhail Lomonosov in 1755, based on church Bulgarian grammar, abd many words and elements of grammar from other languages, for example words "on(he)", "ona(she)" from Polish, words like "obshchestvo" is Bulgarian "obshchestvoto" (society), "krasota" is Bulgarian "krasotato", "semya" (family) is Bulgarian "semeystvo", also "eto" (it) is Spanish word "esta", familiya(surname) is Spanish "familia" (family), "shto"(what) is Serbian word. in the Russian language there are many borrowings because Russia has always been ruled by foreigners, the Moscow Rurikids became related to the Chingizids in the 13th century, in the end of 15 centuary when the Golden Horde split into separate Khanates (Crimean, Astrakhan, Kazan), and the "independent Tsar" (by the way tsar is the Bulgarian word too) recognized its dependence on the Crimean Khan and paid tribute to Crimea before 18 centuary also the last of the dynasty of Moscow "Rurinids" (son of Ivan the Terrible) was eir not of only Rurik, but also of Genghis Khan and Mamai, later at the beginning of the 17th century Moscow Tsardom was replaced by the Finnish landowner Alexei Koshka, who became the Tsar and was baptized with the surname of Romanov, and only when Muscovy Tsardom won the Northern War in the 1720s, became the Russia in 1721(Muscovy Tsardom Peter the Great on October 22 1721 renamed into the Russia, and Tartary into the Siberia) destroyed the Zaporizhye Sich and Crimean, Astrakhan and Kazan Khanates in 1775, simultaneously banning write in the languages ​​of the nations of the Russian Empire, rewrote history for 8 times and destroyed the original documents by order of the Empress Catherine (whose real name is Sofia Augusta Frederica; she was born in Prussia) and when she made the order to call Litvins the "Belarusians" and Muscovites, Kalmyks, Volga Tatars, Udmurts, Vepses, and other 200 little nations the "Russians" only then "Russian people" apeared in our World

[@GameandComedy]

Love Russia, from Serbia brothers 🇷🇸❤️🇷🇺

[@SchwarzeSonne1965]

Serbians are closer to turks lol

[@Боян-р9х]

@@SchwarzeSonne1965 ahah that serbs today we call with name of ''bosnians''

[@senadneslan1563]

@@Боян-р9х we call Bosnia... when your people slave ottoman..groww up vlahu ...or gipys from balkan...you only can comment from pasaluk ...

[@katrinakovalenko6206]

Lol 😂

[@eddy_malouempereur_du_cong6536]

Of course they are your masters

[@IDO547]

I once heard that a Slavic country can’t be Slavic if they don’t hate their neighbour Slavic country and if that’s true this basically means that they are all Slavic...

[@moisuomi]

My country Finland borders Russia and we hate their guts, we aren’t slavs

[@IDO547]

@@moisuomi wasnt talking about you guys

[@mainmeasurement4388]

Slavs are $lave$. Fact.

[@empereur_du_congoeddy-malo2286]

Here in France a lot of people dening the fact that french's ancesters was the celtics gauls

[@insertname9554]

Who else could be your ancestors lol

[@AMR_k400]

@@insertname9554 probably Latins since french is a romance* language but that sounds outrageous

[@AMR_k400]

@Urgut u watch bruhify

[@Swift-mr5zi]

@Lewis C Franks were a germanic tribe who ruled the region of modern France as an aristocratic class. They changed the French language a lot and even gave their name to France. 'France' in German literally still means 'land of the franks' en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_French#Franks Meaning that Charlemagne and other famous Franks had no connection to most people within France

[@WeebMrClean]

@@insertname9554 modern-day france is basically arab

[@ScottJB]

European countries are insistent on gatekeeping ethnic boundaries to an absurd extent. It all boils down to feeling like you're a special member of an exclusive group that has the position to leave out people who want to be in it.

[@falsereligion113]

We remember one Austrian artist with similar desires 🥶

[@billybobwombat2231]

Kinda like the US aye

[@ScottJB]

@@billybobwombat2231 US is the opposite. You can spend your entire life in a different culture, go to the US, become a citizen in 5-10 years, and then you are American, full stop. Your parents could be from Japan, Nigeria, or Nicaragua, and if you're born in the US, you are an American, full stop. Neither of those is fully true for European countries. Shit, I've even heard several times of first generation children of Europeans in the US who've gone back to their parents' country and been told they don't belong there even though they grew up speaking that language, with those traditions, etc.

[@billybobwombat2231]

@@ScottJB tell that to your south, not a whole lot of tolerance through there, I saw it and felt the opposite on my travels through that part of the world.

[@marcusaurelius4941]

inter-European banter still lives on and we still are preoccupied with all this bullshit

[@MonkeyDMatal]

For me Russians are still Slav brothers,idc about this video,I ll pretend I didn’t see it 🇷🇺❤️🇵🇱

[@Cornyexploited]

🇷🇺❤️🇵🇱

[@eava708]

@@bloodkelp As a Pole, yes, i think they are slavs

[@bloodkelp]

@@eava708 idk bro, in russian we have 2 words for russians: rossijanie (people living in russia) and russkije (genetic russians) Anyways we act like an orcs, not like slavs

[@Ocelot835]

@@bloodkelp Don't be so self-hating, leave russophobic rhetoric to Ukrainians. And to be honest, wanting to kill each other while doing literal war crimes is the most slavic thing I can think of ;)

[@wtafpro985]

​​@@bloodkelpА хан хохло таптэй бэй догуз гхузюгэн бэй поступает по братски к русским и этнически проживающим русским на Донбассе? Клоун, если не веришь в существование ЛДНР то приезжай сам, неважно промыли им мозги или нет, но этот народ хочет оставаться Российским. Правду на счёт войны (как и я) ты не знаешь, и уж у сторон которые оба друг друга ненавидят, те что кидают по друг друга фейки, бомбят мирняк, ты хочешь сказать что кто то прав, а кто то нет? Пока не повоюешь не узнаешь, украинцы были и будут русафобами, даже если белые либералы смогут прогнать кремлёвскую власть, то как патриоты России, они отдадут Донбасс и Крым "назад" Украине, потом украинцы будут требовать Кубань, Белгород (БНР), и много ещё чего (выплата того что сделал коемль) То России будет легче отдать пол России Украине, а да, ещё УдельУрал. Свободу народам Волги, Урала и Сибири которые тоже бывают и против России. Останеться Московбад в России, а русских как и не любили, так и дальше любить не будут. Зато мы же терпилы русские, будем терпеть власть, а то что нам запад говорит терпеть будем. Русские не слушают же элиту кремля, зато элиту запада с удовольствием ещё как. Русские не кто и не что, нет России, нет проблем. Мы же Орки по словам украинцев, европейцев. А сколько же видосиков в ТГ, где каз##т русский Мирняк укры потому что это русские уетерменши, не веришь? А Одессу помнишь? Эх, вот мы какие, орки...

[@vanhelsing5469]

judging by genetic studies, we can say that yes, Russians are not Slavs. Only from the northern part of Russia. (West)

[@Stevenkuklinski]

No retard. Genetic studies show they are related to other slavs like Ukrainians and Poles.

[@andreilukyanov4286]

The Russians from the Northern part of Russia are Slavs. Slavs are the ethno-linguistic community, not a genetics. Having some Uralo-Finnic genetics doesn't make you a Finn. Yakuts have 90% Uralo-Finnic genetics, while they are a Turkic people.

[@maciej7611]

My brother is Russian Iam from Poland 🇵🇱

[@franksmith944]

Hahaha "russians are not slavs" is only a saying from a country that was granted independence in 1991

[@Олександр-и3щ6ф]

ти про бидлостанську педерацію?

[@gratius1394]

What a BS. Polish guy cooking some theory in the middle of Partitions of Poland period would certainly be trustworthy researcher.... Assuming that any part of this was based in reality, "original" Russians would have had adopted language and culture of hypothetical "Turanians", not the other way around. In Medieval period Rus people didn't fare particularily well against Asian nomadic tribes and they would have had every incentive to adapt customs of more successful people. Bulgaria is good example of situation in which proto=Slavic tribes had been subjugated and then integrated into social structure of non-Slavic nation. Despite that they have remained Slavic in their core and are like that to this day. Duchiński's theory is motivated purely by misguided patriotism and concurrent political situation.

[@bobstone0]

It's funny. It's funny that Russian propaganda claims that Polish propaganda claims that the Russians are not Slavs. Because in Poland, being a Slav is not considered a value in itself. In Poland, you are primarily a Pole, not a Slav. It is in eastern countries that they make value out of it. Not in Poland. Therefore, it does not matter to us whether the Russians are Slavs. Edit: It is Russian propaganda that tells the Russians that they are being attacked everywhere. That they would not have any problems with starting wars.

[@mizukiri3199]

Croatians are descendants of Illyrians. Serbs came from outer space. Macedonians are descendants of Alexander the Great. Or so some "historians" claim...

[@dzap4815]

How about Bulgarians claiming they're the oldest country and people in Europe?

[@yandespar3490]

Hi, regarding the languages. If a word in related languages are similar, it doesn't necessarily mean that the word was borrowed from one side. As the languages are related, the words just very often have common origins. So, that's why there are many similar words in Ukrainian and Russian, for example, so many Ukrainians make mistake of rejecting these words because they sound "Russian". The same goes vice-versa - when Russians claim that Ukrainian borrowed the words from them or from Poles while those are of common Slavic origin. Anyways, languages are to complicated to pinpoint them like that

[@tyskbulle]

Danes, Swedes, Norwegians 1000AD: - You're not proper vikings, haha! Danes, Swedes, Norwegians 2000AD: - You're not proper vikings, haha!

[@Polak_Russkij]

Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians and Poles fall into the same group on the MDS diagram (way of expressing phylogenetic distance between organisms), which reflects the variability of the Y chromosome (genetic distance), which indicates their genetic relationship and common origin. Russians do not have Y-chromosomal haplogroups Q and C of the Khazars and Mongols.

[@pickxd2035]

Haplogroup Q is originally from Siberian Caucasoids ANE.They are assimilated with the alien Mongoloids.Some went to Northern Imerica and became Americanoids.

[@ZuluDelta-d5r]

Lol about 91 million are R1a

[@cossackhistorian7425]

4:42 that was a specific Soviet thing, since the Soviet government at the beginning was extremely anti-Russian. The Bolshevik Revolution could actually be described as an uprising of minorities against the East Slavic core population of the Russian Empire

[@KateeAngel]

It wasn't anti-Russian. The fact that they wanted to give more rights to ethnic minorities in their own territories is NOT anti-Russian. And many ethnic Russians supported them.

[@KateeAngel]

@Mike Dawson not true. Many Bolsheviks were ethnic Russian, and many from other ethnicities.

[@divyamansinghsen2912]

Just how The mughal empire did not change the demographic of modern India and majority population of India is still Hindu . I can understand the similar circumstances cause the Mugal period (in which many steps were taken by them to change the demographic of India) India lasted more then the British Colonial India

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

I will say it more blatantly. That Ukrainian falsification of history makes me nauseous

[@xsc1000]

Kdybys poslouchala, tak s tím přišel kdysi Polák, ne Ukrajinec. A i když národnostně je to nesmysl, politické důsledky mongolské nadvlády si Rusové nesou doteď. Zvykli si na východní, despotický systém.

[@Martina-Kosicanka]

@@xsc1000 Počúvala som. Hovoril nielen o tom, kto to s tým prišiel ale aj o tom, kto to opakuje dnes. A sama som si to po "internetoch" všimla.

[@xsc1000]

@@Martina-Kosicanka Kdyby tam Putin nevyslal "turisty" v tancích, nikoho by to nezajímalo.

[@unknownuntitled5341]

@@xsc1000 бла бла бла

[@xsc1000]

@@unknownuntitled5341 Chápu, že se ti to nelíbí. V Rusku přece o turistech nic nevědí :-)

[@Markov092]

Party correct. Russians are Slavs but in Russian, there are 2 different meaning for word "Russian". Actual, ethnic Russian is called "Russkiy", while person who is not ethnic Russian but is from Turkic, Finno-Ugric, Chechen, Armenian or other minority, lives in Russia and has citizenship is called "Rossiyanin". In English "Rossiyanins" are also simply called Russians, even if they are not ethnic Russian. Also, unlike other Slavic nations, Russia was huge empire, that had over hundred ethnic groups living in it. Russia is not really monoethnic nation like Poland, Ukraine, Czechia.

[@PalacinkyPDX]

Um, Poland wasn't a monoethnic nation... its minorities were either kicked out (Germans), fled, or were murdered (Jews). Before WW2, Warsaw was almost 40% Jewish.

[@madkills10]

he said at the start of the video that he is only talking about ethnic Russians

[@Markov092]

@@PalacinkyPDX I don't think Poland had over hundred ethnic groups, multiple different religions, or is federative union of multiple republics governed by different cultures.

[@yulusleonard985]

@@Markov092 They used to be. When under elected monarchy and multi ethnic Russian and Austrian empire. Nationalism post WWI pretty much obliterate everything multicultural.

[@Nobody32990]

@@PalacinkyPDX citation needed.

[@leonixnn]

That Indian example was very much on point!

[@tyalikanky]

Sounds like we got another flat earth strain. Automatic translation between Russian/Ukrainian and Polish/Chech is flawless. Languages are like 60% understandable. Only Bulgarian quite different due to no cases and analytical type

[@In_Our_Timeline]

russians are not slavs yeah than water is not liquid

[@SlavScythian]

Спасибо вам за этот ролик, а то этот бред национаоистов украинцев и поляков уже достал..

[@tonytestosteroni6840]

Волга, москва, онега, двина, ока, Пермь, Пенза тру славянские названия. Россиянцы удмурт пыня и мордвин гуня тру славяне

[@dymytryruban4324]

@@tonytestosteroni6840 Днепр, Днестр, Айдар, Донец, Ингулец, Кальмиус?

[@gnas1897]

Ukrainian nationalists: "Russians aren't Slavs, because unlike us they can't understand polish haha" *Also Ukrainian nationalists trying to understand Bulgarian and Serbian* :

[@louyachty9037]

lol Ukrainian nationalists would never flex their ability to understand polish. thats sounds comical if you know the truth.

[@Claudius_Ptolemy]

*also Ukrainians forgetting that unlike Russia, Ukraine was part of the Polish-lithuanian commonwealth*

[@Claudius_Ptolemy]

@Lechite What I wanted to say was that Ukrainians saying that "Ukrainian is similar to Polish and Russian is not therefore Russia is not slavic" forgets that Ukraine used to be under Polish influence, which is why their language sounds like Polish.

[@Markov092]

@Lechite Base of Ukrainian language comes from common vernacular old East Slavic, same what Russians spoke. Both languages branched out and had their influences, where are You mentioned, East Slavs, that were influenced by Polish (West Slavs) and other languages became Ukrainian language, while modern Russian base was formed by Old Church Slavonic, vernacular Old East Slavic and during colonial era some French and other.

[@nick4506]

nationalists will try and make divisions down country lines no matter what. the notion that a person just across the imaginary line is different enough to fuss about is just wrong.

[@Nobody32990]

It's not like people are different along the cultural, religious and ethnic lines. All imaginary am I right?

[@nick4506]

@@Nobody32990 country borders change all the time, most are less than a hundred years old. and religious and ethnic stuff doesn't change on a hard edge like a border. and also people move, in this day in age most people don't live in the town they were born in and maybe not even the same country. mudding up those cultural lines even more. trying to put a hard edge on where people definitely change just doesn't work. and then saying people on the other side of that thin line is different enough to instill hate is just false.

[@Nobody32990]

@@nick4506 borders are made by any particular nation to represent their domain, home if you will. A independent piece of land where they can live according to their own way. It always worked and will always work in the same as you putting a fence between yours and your neighbours plot of land. How traveling and moving from one place in the country to the other is relevant I have no idea. And I can see you have your own preconceived falsehoods in mind, when you describe acknowledging differences between distinc groups of people as "instilling hate" by default.

[@Cardan011]

Anglo Germanic historians whenever Slavs are in question always have this dismissive view like nothing is Slavic one day portal opens and bunch of Slavs just appeared

[@CharlesHapsburg]

Anglos don’t give a fuck about Slavic culture? Stop virtue signalling you incel, we don’t have anything to do with your culture and I’m absolutely glad for that.

[@mainmeasurement4388]

Но ведь это правда, никаких славян не существует. Даже если они когда-то и существовали, то давно вымерли и перемешались с разными приграничными народами. Все эти "славяне" - просто аутсайдеры мировой цивилизации и культуры...

[@Luftwaffe1O1]

Ultranationalists are a hilarious bunch, you see it a lot in tiny nations with tiny aspirations. Just because they share a root language, does not mean they will understand each other. Italian, Spanish, French are all Latin languages, and they cant understand each other easily. But their source is the same. Languages, like its people, evolve over the centuries, and change, it is sad to me that people strive so hard for division, instead of unity.

[@mishacol]

Old Soviet joke. Kids of different countries are given the task to write an essay on elephants. UK: "Industrial use of elephants" France: "Sexual life of elephants" Germany: "Elephants are predecessors of tanks" USSR: "Russia is the birthplace of elephants"

[@DelijeSerbia]

There is no such thing as a Slavic gene. There is only a Slavic culture and a lot of non-slavic tribes were assimilated.

[@bogdanosipenko1297]

thats a good point actually

[@Markov092]

Well, R1a haplogroup gene is considered as East Slavic marker, that is why many Slavic (both East and West) have this marker. Only South Slavs are different.

[@mainmeasurement4388]

​@@Markov092-R1a is an Indo-European gene, not "Slavic". It is found in a larger percentage among "Asians": Turks, Persians, Afghans, Tajiks, “Aryans” and Hindus...

[@stefanfilipov7254]

Replace the Word Slavic, with Bulgarian and call it a day. It's quite sad to me that our closest brothers- Serbians hold such hatred towards Bulgaria. Are we really that low today? And what the fuck happened, that turned our nations from builders of civilizations to such spineless cowards. When did we let Greeks, Europeans, Russians and whoever the fuck it is to tell us who we are. They're all full of shit, wearing the shoes of our fathers....

[@SRBINPZS]

There is no such things as a pure Slavs, we are all mixed. And DNA is older then any nation or ethno-linguistic groups, so it doesn’t make anyone more or less Slavic. We Balkans Slavs also mixed with locals when we moved to the Balkans.

[@discovaria9507]

6:39 >Why am I still a christian The thing is, Setarko, Mongol empire had religious tolerance, which means they tolerated the christianity. In fact, Mongol empire prohibited its soldiers to destroy christian churches and its priests, bishops etc. and Mongol empire actually helped Russian Orthodox Church expand

[@ButterDog42069]

that is true, but that doesn't cancel everything else said in this video. If i look slavic, i am slavic. Show me at least one mongol with blue eyes and blonde hair

[@discovaria9507]

@@ButterDog42069 I never said Russians aren't slavs

[@Userius1]

@@ButterDog42069 There are some Mongols with blonde hair and blue eyes though. You can Google it.

[@ButterDog42069]

@@Userius1 I'm pretty sure they're an exception

[@Userius1]

@@ButterDog42069 They are, but you kind of set yourself up saying "Show me at least one".

[@tereziamarkova2822]

Slavs in their current form aren't an ethnic group, they are a linguistic designation with some common cultural elements. All Slavic speaking peoples are genetically more similar to their non-Slavic speaking neighbours than nations with more similar languages living in different parts of Europe. If we just accepted that genetics is almost useless in determining one's actual cultural heritage, we'd be much better off.

[@pawelp8307]

Absolutely right !

[@pickxd2035]

Slavs are only Poles, Slovaks, Czechs, Belarusians, part of Russians and Ukrainians who come from the Fatyan culture.The rest have nothing to do with the Slavs.

[@tereziamarkova2822]

@@pickxd2035 What's Fatyan culture? You mean this one? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatyanovo%E2%80%93Balanovo_culture

[@pickxd2035]

@@tereziamarkova2822 What's wrong?According to the map my native lands

[@СергейАстафьев-б8в]

@@pickxd2035 Czechs were originally a Celtic tribe called Boii

[@67thCloneSquadron]

Lol I am a Russian from Ryazan and I did a DNA test and it came back 90% Russian and like just 10% Lithuanian so I don't know what this bullshit is.

[@janjohansen9361]

Well, my wife for the past 22 years and still counting is Russian. She has DNA tested herself and yes, she has a very mixed DNA but 50 % are concidered to be as "eastern european" which in these terms are another word of being slavic (the rest is uralic which makes sence since she was born in Udmurtia), north east asian, central asian and even scandinavian. But 50 % eastern european means = 50 % slavic so despite our oppinions of Russia as a country, the fact is that Russians are a slavic people.

[@teodoziagalchin7765]

«Русское посольство к императору Священной Римской империи Максимилиану II в Регенсбурге». 1576 г ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A0%D1%83%D1%81%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5_%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%81%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%8C%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%BE_(%D0%B3%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%8E%D1%80%D0%B0_1576_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D0%B0)#/media/%D0%A4%D0%B0%D0%B9%D0%BB:Russian_embassy_(1576_engraving)_page_1-4_(Muzey_Moskvi).jpg Are they really SLAVIC?

[@christiankalinkina239]

She's half udmurt

[@Dangur2]

Depends how to define slavs. The only "scientific" definition concerns the language. There is no specific genetics about it, genetics is not bound to the language. Nor is it bound to ethnicity or nationality. Southern slavs differ sufficiently from the western ones, on the level of genetics, and Moscow dwellers are much more genetically close to Poles, than to the population of Arkhangelsk, that is more close to Finns (genetically). Russian language is, no doubts, Slavic, and overwhelming majority of ancestors of modern ethnical russians spoke russian, that is slavic, in the end of pre-industrial era, when mixing and migration radically increased. Nowdays there are other russian speakers, and some define even afro-russians as slavs, although it is quite confusing. Still, it is possible to define as a slav a person, most of whose direct ancestors spoke some slavic language in pre-industrial era.

[@dymytryruban4324]

The population Arkhangelsk is closer to Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians than to Finns.

[@rinaldoman3331]

Kievan Rus is a technical term of Soviet Historiography to define the period of Rus with its capital in Kyiv. Nobody used this in those days, but! Everyone forgets that Kyiv became the capital after it was captured by the Novgorod prince Oleg. That is, Novgorod Rus' is the correct Rus', and the oldest city in Rus' is Ladoga. It was Oleg who made Kyiv the center of Russian lands, and not vice versa. Kyiv is the mother of Rus', and Novgorod is the father.

[@Олександр-и3щ6ф]

ти лох який ніхера не знає

[@alvaroanacona7138]

I’ve always been interested in the differences between the Slavs ! I’ve always known the relationships have been super complicated and that one shouldn’t paint you all with one brush! Awesome video!

[@СергейБыков-ь3з]

Прежде всего перестаньте употреблять такой термин как Киевская Русь! Никакой Киевской Руси не было! Ни в одной древнерусской летописи вы не найдете такого названия! Была просто Русь или Русская земля и если бы вы сказали какому нибудь жителю древней Руси, что он живет в киевской Руси то он бы очень сильно удивился!

[@YummYakitori]

Russians are indeed mixed with Finno-Ugric peoples, but so what? LOL. North Russians (especially in areas like Arkhangelsk Oblast, St Petersburg, Karelia etc.) are indeed genetically cluster closer to Finno-Ugric peoples because they had ancestors which were Russified over time in history, but Central and especially South Russians have been shown to cluster more closely with other Slavic peoples like Ukrainians and Belarusians. Also the Rurikids (Rurik, Yaroslav the Wise, Vsevolod the Big Nest, Alexander Nevsky, Ivan the Terrible etc.) have been found to belong to Y-DNA Haplogroup N1c1 which is most typical among Finno-Ugric peoples (rather than Haplogroup R1a or I2 which is most typical for Slavs and I1 for Swedes) - yes viking themselves were very mixed and it defined a job rather than a singular ethnic group - and that included some Finno-Ugric peoples as well, including the ancestors of Rurikids who probably became Norse vikings in and around the Uppsala area of Sweden.

[@matthewmann8969]

Some are Slavs others are mixed with Celts, Germanics, Anglos, Saxons, Anglo Saxons, Normans, Greeks, Latins, Gauls, Mongolics, Yupiks, Sino Tibetans, Japonics, Koreanics, Caucasians, Semites, And Indo Iranians so yeah

[@ablorenz]

Well, Russians in fact Nordic. Mostly Baltic-Finnic peoples with some Scandinavian and Slavic admixture, who later assimilated to the Slavic culture and now speak a Slavic language. Russians are too white to be Slavic, Slavs are mostly dark-skinned peoples.

[@unlomtrash]

@@ablorenz nice trolling bro

[@Letnistonwandif]

@@unlomtrash What trolling? Why you are so obssesed with slavs having asian ancestry.

[@denkapeneva2018]

​@@ablorenzbulgars creat the russian nation haha😂

[@ZuluDelta-d5r]

@@denkapeneva2018lol, bulgar were a bunch of Bashkir and Tatar when Russia existed

[@darkspawn88]

Calling russians not slavs its the most dumb thing i ever heard,even the arguments are so funny :D

[@thefrench8847]

Considering that most Ukrainian have their ancestor a Tatar and Russian.

[@thejohanvalli]

It is quite clear that (ethnically) Russians are not Fenno-Ugric in origin. The Russian language alone is completely different from Finnish, Estonian, Karelian or Sámi. Which are all linguistically quite similar. Genetically, for example, Finns and Russians are not close to each other. Generally speaking. In fact, the genetic differences between Finns themselves are large. The genetic heritage of Eastern Finns is very different from that of Western Finns. The genetic differences between Fenno-Ugric peoples are also considerable, which is due to how widely the Fenno-Ugric peoples have spread. I am myself finnish person and I wouldn't mind if russians would be fenno-ugric, but that's just not the case.

[@ДобренькийФранкенштейн]

Russians never mixed with Mongols. We were under the jurisdiction of the Mongols, but we almost did not enter into close relations with them. On the contrary, our ancestors were waiting for the right moment to get rid of addiction. And another amazing fact: not only Russians live in Russia. The second largest people in Russia are the Tatars

[@ДобренькийФранкенштейн]

@@Neurosong. больше 50% граждан Украины и есть русские, говорящие на двух языках

[@teodoziagalchin7765]

@@Neurosong. Глаз узкий - я русский!

[@sergeipetrov_rzn]

@@Neurosong. если всё посчитать как следует и по единой методологии, то украинцев в России окажется больше чем на Украине

[@tarelochka_borscha]

@@ДобренькийФранкенштейн генетически между западными русскими и украинцами практически нет разницы (не считая западных украинцев, они ближе к полякам)

[@Mobuku]

Being a Christian is different from race/ethnicity though. Doesn't matter what color of skin, eye and hair color you have, what kind of environment you grew up in, the language you speak, but being a Christian is not attached to ethnicity, race, or culture. Christianity transcends beyond it. In which case, I'm Asian, but I'm a Christian.

[@somedude7701]

@Huy Most likely he/she is a Filipino. Also Mongols are not Christians.

[@PeoplesChoiceofficial]

Im polish and i never heard about this polish dude and his theory about russians. We are ALL MIXED nowadays and there is no such a thing as strict ethnic groups.

[@mdjey2]

That doesn't change cultural borders and Russians have no culture. Only drinking and fighting.

[@borzmir9326]

i tak i nie

[@Beleidigen-ist-Pflicht]

Globalist propaganda, I say!

[@valmarsiglia]

Right, that's what I thought when it came to intermarriage: the Mongol/Tatar elite sometimes married into the elites of conquered peoples, but of course the elite comprise a very small part of any population. I remember reading that the name Sheremeteev is of Tatar origin, with the "-emet-" part of the name coming from "Ahmed."

[@ButterDog42069]

Lol, Sheremeteev is not a name, it's a surname. The same thing as saying "This guy must be ethnically arian because his last name is White"

[@valmarsiglia]

@@ButterDog42069 In informal English, "name" can refer either to a forename or a surname. And believe it or not, having a last name that originates with a certain ethnic group can be a good indication of some ties to said group (you won't meet many ethnic Finns, for example, named Nguyen). But thanks for playing.

[@ButterDog42069]

@@valmarsiglia Ok, i've been owned, i admit it. Btw my previous comment was not intended to sound agressive, sorry if it did

[@valmarsiglia]

@@ButterDog42069 Sorry too, thanks.

[@Hadar1991]

I want to add my two cents to this discussion. Are Russians descendants of Slavs who originated in Polesia (border regions between modern Ukraine and Belarus with small parts in Poland and Russia)? Off course. Do Russians speak a Slavic language? No doubts. Do Russians share many customs with other Slavic nation? Absolutely yes. But... ... there is a one MAJOR thing that completely separates Russians and all other Balto-Slavic nations. Heck even from all other European nations. And it is political culture. Russian principalities where dependent from Mongols from 1237 until 1480 (that is almost 250 years). While Ukrainian and Belarusian territories where only briefly under Mongol influence (it was replaced with Lithuanian and then Polish) we must remember than Russians where under Tatar influence until remains of Golden Horde where conquered by Muscovy (and even after that, which I will explain). So there is no doubt that Russian principalities had majority Slav population (or at least slavicisated Ugric people), spoke East Slavic and where Christians, although we must remember that many, if not majority, of boyars had Tatar origin. But during these 250 years of Mongol dependence Russian principalities adopted Mongol political system. And more Mongol-like political institutions Muscovy had* the more strong and independent Muscovy became. So Russia totally embraced what it is called sometimes "oriental despotism" in exchange of preserving Rurikovich dynasty, Orthodox religion, Russian language and mostly culture. And to be honest in political terms Russia is continuation of Golden Horde no matter how hard Russians would like to believe it is not. And it is also reason why Muscovy was far more brutal in conquest of Novgorod than in conquest of steppes. Steppes already had identical political structure as Muscovy (which Muscovy just replaced) while Novgorod kept the Rus structure of power (which Muscovy had to destroy and rebuild their own). While Slavs where know from their democratic approach (in all other Slavic countries monarch powers where usually weak). The reverse case to Russian/Muscovy one is Hungary. They came from the steppes but with time more and more slavicisate their political institutions while preserving their language and mostly culture. This is why West Slavs usually had good relation with Hungarians. And yes, Russia tried as hard as it could to mongolize political institutions in conquered territories (Ruthenia, Baltic States, Poland etc.) and it is why in my opinion russification failed in the West of Russian Empire but succeeded in the East. Even though linguistically all Slavic languages are extremely close but absolutely all of somewhat politically aware people (who continue the Polish-Commonwealth political culture) absolutely disdained Russian despotism and authoritarianism. And in term of spreading Russian political culture most successful was Stalin, who just murder everybody who dared to think otherwise. But it only took 8 years of Ukraine being outside Russian political sphere to simple Ukrainian folk never wanting it back. And even it Russia will conquer all of Ukraine (which will happen eventually if Russian government will be determined enough) de-Slavisation of Ukrainian politics will take decades. Basically what happened in Ukraine between 2004 and 2022 reversed all "progress" Stalin made in Central and Eastern Ukraine. And Russian despotism and authoritarianism is in my opinion the reason of contempt towards Russians from other Slavs and it is reason why Russian "Slavness" is often questioned. And this why I personally would be sympathetic towards some kind of pan-Balto-Slavic political union (which could also entail Romanians, Hungarians and Estonians) but any Russian influence in that project would jeopardise all those nations existence. So this is reason why you may sometimes hear "Pan-Slavism yes, as long we don't consider Russians to be Slavs", otherwise Pan-Slavism is just a way to expand Russia and Russian political culture. *which was granted the status of the most important Russian principality by Golden Horde, so eventual success of Muscovy and reason why Moscow is centre of Russian culture and power is due to Sultan Giyas al-Din Mohammed Öz Beg grating Muscovy hereditary supremacy over other Russian principalities in exchange for extreme loyalty from Iván I Danilovich Kalitá and his heirs.

[@Konzor]

Oh no - Russians are more related to Finns and Estonians then to Poles - that must hurt deep

[@эйлбкддрх]

As russian im happy im fingolian 🇷🇺🇫🇮🇲🇳

[@riddis8785]

Stupid argument, as a russian i understand some slavic languages really well such as belareussian Ukrainian and bulgarian

[@rigastudentsrent7759]

Im Russian and I understand 50% of Polish.. never learned polish

[@rostuslavkutuzov8506]

You are zmoskovit stollen identity...

[@ivanos_95]

The so called Muscovites, were a mix of Uralic tribes and East-Slavic tribes, while the predominantly Slavic culture of modern Russia is a result of Orthodox-Christianity, which came to those lands from the South-Slavs, and domination of those lands by Kievan-Rus, which were exclusively Slavic tribes.

[@janstolk486]

my russian gf. looks very slavic , blond hair slim and blue eyes . very nice for her age !

[@liamvictor6969]

@Alexey "learn some Ukrainian history" LMAO

[@janstolk486]

@Alexey i did not know you are aquatinted with my gf.

[@nikolaytekuchev136]

We do have "око" for "eye". It's just that almost nobody uses it.

[@emmetshtainakov9796]

The famous Russian phrase, which is a translation of another, sounds something like - "око за око"