RWBY: Deathstalker/Giant Nevermore fight in 60FPS

From episode 8: Players and Pieces. Watch here: roosterteeth.co...

[@Kamera_Ninja]

I don't think people understand how brilliant Monty was in crafting this scene. the framing, timing and chorography legit top tier!

[@dieutam1204]

true, i need to comeback to watch it again.

[@UsonoHoushi]

There's also the weight and momentum with the way the characters move. like most animated action scene try to ignore are avoid gravity. but Monty embraces it and takes full advantage of it to make his battles stand out. I feel this is what RT over looks in his animations. As they REALLY lean in to anime style battles. And it really shows considering that you can feel the lowering of the speed, intensity, and power of the battles.

[@legendarybrando348]

2nd best fight scene in rwby imo 1st being the red trailer. Rwby is really one of the best anime out there and imo I think I put it as my favorite.

[@gabrielmarin5516]

This is even more noticeable when you compare the version or interpretation that they gave him in ice queendom, it's not that it's bad but... but it's clear that what Monty did went and had another style that, to be honest, would have been difficult or even impossible to do. do it in 2D version

[@renzoalagon]

He carried the whole show tbh

[@surenjay256]

3:20 Song: "Couldn't stand another minute" *Rens falls over*

[@Hei_Darkfire]

I never noticed that... It's even funnier with just how funny that scene is in general because Lie Ren took one impact and was just done XD

[@xanderkane806]

Suren Nightcore like "yea I'm done"

[@manumainio]

@@Hei_Darkfire I guess he was winded after taking on the king taijitu all by himself.

[@Kovugamez]

@@manumainio or he's a fragile speedster who lacks stamina

[@pureink_]

Hei Darkfire, he actually technally took two hits. The impact from the scorpion and the column. If the the column wasn't there, he would have kept going in the direction in which he was thrown, but the column put an immediate stop, which has to put the Sam amount of force in which he was thrown. And the first attack was in his stomach area.

[@barghestblue731]

Weiss: None of this working. Ruby: Have we tried dragging it up the cliff and guillotining it's head off?

[@EclipsedEquinox]

but.. thats not how a guillotine works..

[@destinydemonalpha5653]

Reverse guillotine

[@randomplayer785]

@@destinydemonalpha5653 reverse guillotine... just wow

[@Rekkenze]

He isn’t wrong...

[@jennytulls6369]

*its

[@8ytan]

RWBY took longer to kill their Grimm because they were busy brainstorming the most badass way possible.

[@uneverjack158]

John Reynolds lol, so true

[@AmonAboooat]

RWBY does not, not look at explosions as they're walk away... THEY'RE the explosion!

[@thelorax942]

John Reynolds true xD

[@asterosium.6848]

True but as Lucy would say They went Overboard- Fairy Tail

[@gxstly]

I mean Lucy is technically in the show (Ilia), I don't think she would say that.

[@zat1245]

I like how the two eventual leaders, who doubted their positions, were naturally leading their groups during this fight.

[@silviogrijalva8801]

The guy did two call outs doesn't really qualify him for being team leader

[@peterwright5358]

@@silviogrijalva8801 Its more shots than anyone else called. And it shows his potential.

[@brianbrush5107]

300th like

[@damir_van_kalaz]

You mean the same cliche that is found in basically every story like this with MCs who doubt their potential as leaders?

[@zat1245]

Damir Kalaz Can’t seem to find anywhere where I said it was rare. You must just be insane.

[@mikeysenpai6094]

that fight never gets old to watch

[@2urh]

I can vouch for that absolutely :D

[@Duane_Grabert]

Neither does the food fight.

[@dsm1835]

GRIM REAPER no rwby never gets old

[@pvrc1030]

So long as they make the fights better in the coming volumes

[@silkghost93]

555 likes huh I wonder if theres gonna be 111 more likes (jk and your right i like going back to this fight scene along with yang vs neo)

[@siddiqsmouse5004]

The transition from Nora's hammer reveal to Blake's grappling move gets me every time.

[@crescenteclipse8967]

Siddiq Smouse ikr!

[@HA-di9gf]

Siddiq Smouse right

[@noe4354]

Goosebumps

[@miles0995]

So frikin smooth

[@eqxinoxx]

timestamp?

[@lilpetz500]

Ruby: Do you think you can make the shot? Weiss: CAN I? Ruby: O_O ...can yo- Weiss: Of course I can!!!

[@Hiddenkaos]

this is still my favorite part of the whole thing ngl

[@kriblar98]

Hidden Kaos big same

[@evanboll4651]

WhiteRose quarrelling before they even properly know each other.

[@marichatismynameandladynoi1990]

Still funny and iconic

[@pizzaman9859]

Quality writing

[@SesamUbe]

This has to be my favorite fight (not counting the food fight) because it actually shows all of the main characters interacting with each other and combining their fighting styles (Example: You don't see Blake and Ren fighting together very often....if ever. Same with Weiss swooping in to save Nora). The characters’ uses of the falling debris and destruction of the ruins really intensifies the threat that they’re facing and effectively gets across how huge of a scale this is for the first major battle of the series

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

KuroChii Yeah yeah and HECK YEAH

[@jcgreene4515]

KuroChii yeah and this a fav bc of the team work involved. Each character served a role and a part in the take down.

[@bonzwah1]

I completely agree. As a complete fight this still rates to be the best mix of everything in my opinion. It shows teamwork, creativity, as well as immense individual skill. The "camera work" also does a great job keeping us in the middle of the action while still maintaining our awareness of the scale. It really makes you feel like you're right there with them, while still communicating where everything is happening in the larger scheme of things. I have to say that as a starting point for the series I was very excited to see how far it could go, and while I continue to watch and enjoy the series, I'm afraid that in terms of fight scenes, it really hasn't improved beyond this point as a whole, with most of the fights feeling like they pale in comparison in the later volumes. just my opinion of course and I understand the very unfortunate real life circumstances that make it difficult to go back to the old style, but I really hope they looked back at volume 1 for inspiration going into volume 5

[@testtesttest9458]

The guy who able to do this kind of scene no longer there anymore.........don't expect anything smillar like this will happen......the show turn to different direction now. that whay in season 3 it also mess up like fuck.

[@mitchellbaran7917]

+test testtest - Actually, Season 3 was the last season Monty Oum worked on before he passed away - and it shows, since that was arguably the best season to date in terms of fights, story and balancing the two. Granted, quality of fights is arguable compared to Seasons 1 & 2, but the way it balanced out with the story helped mitigate that. As it stands, though, the following seasons show that the team really never did recover from that loss - it feels like they're still trying to find their footing in regards to the fights. This, in my personal opinion, is most evident in the cases of Ruby and Qrow since... well, being frank, it feels like Monty was one of the only ones who seemed to animate scythe-wielding with any real fluidity - ever since Season 3, there's been a noticeable lack of scenes where Ruby's use of her trademark weapon is in full-force, especially in Season 5, and Qrow thus far has barely ever used his own. I'm not trying to bash the show though -I'm glad the story and general animation are improving and all. But RWBY was made a thing because of the fight cinematography and choreography - without that, it's just another fantasy series. I'd give every penny in the bank to have someone re-focus things on choreographing fights and bringing them back to at least a comparable level to the first three seasons. As much as I like RT's content, it feels like they're stretching themselves out across too many projects at once - I'd rather take quality over quantity in that regard; even if it means some series get delayed for more than a year, it'd be worth it if it means content that can hold any kind of candle to it's start.

[@SGRev1]

Love how at 3:18 Team JNPR subtly spells their name for the first time.

[@reisayshi6844]

OH YEA it lands jaune, nora, pyraa then ren Imao.

[@UltimateMustacheX]

I never noticed that the landing poses roughly make their letter.

[@adil0028]

And the fight is literally a foreshadowing for Qrow vs Tyrion (The Scorpion loses its tail)

[@marichatismynameandladynoi1990]

@@adil0028 wow ur so smart didn’t notice that

[@adil0028]

@@marichatismynameandladynoi1990 no I just copied another comment😂

[@josephwilliams5292]

Remember back when they were teams? Good times...

[@pinkwig12]

Spoilers much?

[@josephwilliams5292]

pink wig12 i didnt give specifics.

[@pinkwig12]

+Joseph Williams yeah not you I'm talking about sleep deprived fan girl

[@josephwilliams5292]

pink wig12 it was inevitable.

[@pinkwig12]

+Joseph Williams yeah I'm just going to give a warning DON'T CLICK MORE REPLIES IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED RWBY

[@Warkupo]

So... a Crow and a Scorpion huh? Wonder if that was planned

[@ilyasbasuki3207]

Wouldn't be surprised.

[@libbywilliams9969]

Yeh knowing how ridiculously subtle rwby is with its foreshadowing it's an alarming possibility

[@asdf1324]

Oh my god, never thought of it like that O-O

[@Dullahan2]

Qrow v Tyrion. A Crow and a Scorpion.

[@firapolemos3879]

Oh My God Why did I never notice that?

[@BucketOfSuck]

I like Nora. Something about an OP ditz that just works.

[@mimimara2041]

When the show wasn't THAT dark...

[@dreamcastdazia4753]

Mimi Mara A show like this is meant to get darker deeper in the plot.... Just shut up

[@computernerd3183]

PheonixBlue Sounds like someone needs a snickers bar😐

[@allthingslexi6046]

ForNeverBound you shut up

[@MrHopeNight]

The show isn't ruin, it's already good! A show like this need to not be only happy and many moments in last seasons are great "Pyrrha's death", "attack of Beacon" for example

[@browniescake4563]

Daniel Bueno Constructive criticism is always nice, but not “R.I.P. Monty when the fight scenes were actually good”

[@endorsedbee0403]

I would love to see this fight remade with the improved graphics and animations they have now

[@brightestlight9462]

no. the old fight scenes are better because they had monty oum, without him there they would ruin these scenes.

[@i_Ambrose]

@Joshua Rivers and he's saying without monty oum they would ruin the fight.

[@LewysC]

I mean they could possibly put in the new models and rendering software and stuff and since they have the original to take inspiration from anything they need to change or re-do can still be made faithful. I think it would be a nice homage to the first volume if they recreated this with the new tech. They did the same thing for the scene in V6 where Ruby uses her silver eyes so maybe they could use it as a flashback or maybe put it in a trailer or character short or something.

[@charlidrawz]

Same tbh. They've been doing so well, it's insane.

[@SayaNorwich]

@@i_Ambrose but it will still have Monty's presence in it, since he was the one who wrote the fight

[@IcyWiddow]

To anyone who has a friend interested, just show them this fight. They'll be instantly hooked.

[@razgrizknight8818]

Icy Widdow yeap, I was

[@BoinFran]

I showed my friends the food fight... it also works :v

[@edgarlarios4718]

This was the hook fight, but it doesn't work without the story building behind it.

[@Konh-Minh]

Worked.

[@tinkeringwolfie1509]

That's how my brother got me. But now he refuses to watch it cuz there's no more character development (besides jaune. His words not mine. He stopped watching after volume 4)

[@arzr_er]

Fuck, I love Nora.

[@pure7117]

+ARZRer I can tell by that profile picture you possess.

[@arzr_er]

Perxis 12 She's not Nora

[@pure7117]

ARZRer i mean like the expression of liking Nora. that hentai face

[@arzr_er]

Not even hentai, but you're damn right.

[@pure7117]

ARZRer YUSH

[@natalieorman1907]

i'm sorry but, I just picturing this fight scene redone with all of the clean animation assets they have post volume 3 and I'm weeping with joy

[@noahdavis7406]

Now what about volume 4?

[@sebastienemeric9073]

Noah Cg3 Um maby it could work I guess I am not sure how well the style would translate to volume 4 it could look amazing like with the Qrow vs Tyrian fight or not that like the fight with the posseser grimm at the begging of volume 4. Ether way would be great to see it happen.

[@queencyrys6309]

I thought the geist fight was... alright. Definately the weakest in the series, but it wasn't really bad.

[@CrushableDread]

James Cretchley Geist fight was so bad, the animators don’t understand how Monty used momentum to add to the power. They show the characters doing an action to build some momentum but then they correct the motion making that flashy bit only for flare. Monty made every action follow through to the hit.

[@ReiseLukas]

Nope, I'm wondering what this would look like with traditional 2D animation

[@williamkim2551]

This is when I became sure RWBY is an awesome show

[@williamkim9861]

I saw your name and got so confused! I thought you were me! And also wow. 2 years ago? Has it really been that long?

[@foxdraws]

It WAS awesome for like the first two seasons but then Monty died and left everyone else to try and make Rwby happen

[@Konh-Minh]

Ignoring the rushed passion projects that are Volumes 4 and 5, the animation really improved in volume 6. Specifically, the writing and the fights got better. And since Volume 7 is being delayed, we can be assured that the next volume is going to be much better than the last.

[@kikiblack9230]

@@Konh-Minh lmao u thought

[@ReiseLukas]

@@kikiblack9230 I've stopped hoping RWBY would improve by Volume 5. Rooster Teeth doesn't care about quality writing and Character development. I'm currently working on writing a remake of RWBY

[@nayshine7875]

Weiss is the only person in team RWBY without a weapon that has a gun. *That is an issue.*

[@st.salton4024]

diSRESPECTFUL tO MEMES you forgot jaune, he literally just has a sword

[@kitboibebop]

St. Salton team RWBY not the show

[@DunceInAwhile]

Also, Myrtenaster is, essentially, a rapier and a gun since it has a cylinder like a revolver and can be used for ranged attacks. It doesn't have to project only solid projectiles to be considered a gun.

[@kalonjistephens6481]

It still shoots tho

[@rev3rze572]

Actually its jaune that doesn't have any gun components on his sword :v Weiss has revolver components on her rapier

[@chancex1145]

I noticed that the glyphs Weiss use really do take a considerable amount of energy for her to use. Notice as Ruby drags the Nevermore that Weiss can barely stand.

[@ze-ce.cra_]

Chancellor Shealey holyshit u noticed some subtle detail

[@foxdraws]

I went back to watch that scene and I never saw that! You have some good eyes holy.

[@asukahinamori7887]

She got stronger over volume 1 and 2 and she could use glyphs really easily and more of them without draining herself to much and I felt this was really good detail each fight scene, honestly this show is one of my favourites

[@slauter1939]

Chancellor Shealey lol I thought everyone knew but I think it’s specifically the gravity glyphs the black ones. She’s very tired after them. Here when she was slowing down the plane in volume 4 or 5 and when she caught RWBY in volume 6. It was all the black gravity glyphs

[@QueenOokamini]

At that moment the nevermore realized... He fucked up.

[@Pasc1331able]

He didnt even get a moment. It all just happened and he was dead. Never Forget.

[@tuxedomask1323]

XCrytectnaX You could say that after this fight it was nevermore

[@zionasuncion9568]

@@tuxedomask1323god damn it

[@mechcannon]

To be honest, this was a pretty well written fight and probably one of my favourite in RWBY. Because it was a very, very, very simple story. It was about the teams learning to work together and coming into their own, something that combined with the fluid well choreographed action which works well to sell the dynamics in the fight. Examples of Blake and Nora clashing and them not doing well, to show how she just isn't right for the team, was great then using that as a transition to the other team fighting the Nevermore, is genius. Fights generally start have different beats to show how exactly it plays out, this can be as simple as Character X figures out his opponents strategy. There are many ways to build a fight scene, as this one is just against two seemingly overwhelming beasts it mostly acts in service of showing how they each become a team. - Introduction of threats -The attempt at flight towards their objective to show how they really don't actually care for the fight -Then finally the breaking of the Bridge which is the turning point, where they know they have to fight to stay alive and reach their goal -Jaune and Nora coming in to help their allies telling us they got this -Knocking blake off, acts as a transition to the other fight -The dive bomb attack on the tower to show -"None of this is working," -Ruby takes over as team leader when she says, "I have a plan," which as the music kicks in signifies the last major turning point of the fight, it also cleverly uses animation cuts to follow Rubys thought process, Weiss covering Ruby swiftly transitions into -The breaking of the bridge, and the other fights ramping up intensity - This fight is then used a subtle precursor as they fight, they begin to work as team ending with Ren getting smashed against the wall, they still need a leader -Jaune steps up, giving orders and with ramping up intensity they almost best it -Tension dispersal mid air with Nora telling us "Yeah, they got this," -Before the action comes crashing down -They win and we are given a moment to celebrate as the lyrics start -Very quickly turning as their and our eyes follow the continued action with the Nevermore -With the song in full force, the action ramps up in intensity as we see Yang as it swoops in for the kill as a reminder, "Yeah they are gonna kick ass," -This is done when Yang breaks up the tension yet again, with her remarks so when the Nevermore hits the wall with a crunch it feels more impact using that buildup so it can pay off since that's her solo role in the last part of the fight done mostly -Weiss comes in literally switching out for Yang as she freezes the Bird, she is given her own solo moment as the sliding and crunching stop what we see is it taking off -Blake throwing her weapon to fulfill Rubys plan giving her an essential role in the confrontation, using her to transition into the fulfillment on the promise of these little bits of team work like with Weiss and Yang -Then as we see Weiss ready we suddenly understand the full plan, as the audience through teamwork they've prepared and are ready to release a tension that builds -With that little chat you have a sudden, yeah funny moment with the song in the background reeling up the tension for the release of badassary we are awaiting, one more in essence telling us the audience yeah, they've got it and there is no doubt anymore. -Finally it releases, with a moment of quite before the explosive release it and the songs been building up. -The natural conclusion is that sudden rush which is something everyone remembers and Ruby gets her Solo moment -All concluding with that shot reminding us quite simply Ruby is a badass as the tension finally dies and the fight is over -Characters just look up in awe -Yang makes her quip as a funny comment on the scene we just watched, finally breaking all the tension that might still be left. With a nod to say, yeah this is over. What's really important about this fight, which is something a lot of 'team fights' in the later half of the show lack Volume Three, Four and Five are my major examples is, if you care to read up from this point. It as a kinetic momentum leading us as the audience through many different characters, we dynamically through the beats of the fight learn and understand the Characters and their interplay. We don't need told Jaune and Ruby are both leaders because they both come up with the plan, we instantly understand that these Grim are dangerous through the way the cast react and how they destroy the environment and we can see Blake doesn't work well with team JNPR. There are plenty of other techniques in the fight, but a good fight is paced. It makes up for the bad animation through clever transitions use of air and movements like through momentum to make up for it, barely is anyone running or whatever. Do later seasons have better animation, yeah, but the pacing gets worse and worse in each fight. The only examples one can think off that constitute something worth while, and not only add to characterization are always one on one fights, Qrow Vs Winter and Qrow Vs Tyrian. (Of the top of my head) Team fights, need to be about the team and how everything plays together, Volume 5's climax was terrible because it was pretty much a big one on one where everyone just kinda interacted with each other independent from everything else and we are led through the scene by cuts rather than having them flow into each other through smart transitions, that's what the later fights are lacking for those curious. God I'm bored right now.

[@megatron8449]

And the music is absolutely kickass!

[@develrandomdankmemes7586]

facts

[@jakubkolacek6813]

Sorry for Necro. I find it interesting that even after watching anime version of this fight I still think this is way way superior version even with way lower visual quality. Anime is gorgeous but this is way faster and gets my heart pumping way more than anime. Monty really was fucking amazing.

[@TOKYODEATHLINE_8602_369]

i love the way you've explained this and written it out. it's extremely true. i'll be saving this comment for myself, for later writing.

[@clydesdale1775]

couldn't have said it better myself. I also love that each character is shown dealing with the same problem in their own way (example, getting back to the ruin after being knocked off). Simple little personality driven things like that made the show so engaging. Nora really takes the cake, but my other fav moment is Yang in the background. While everyone else is regrouping trying to figure out what to do, Yang is out in the open firing away. It really SHOWED her personality (I miss when she had one).

[@studiojapfilms7305]

Monty Oum really knew how to do his fights. Sadly because of his death, there is no fight in Volume 3 or 4 (up to the latest Ep10) that I can remember that is as awesome as those in Vol 1 and 2. The story got darker and cinematography of non-fight scenes got a lot better, but the fight scenes themselves have never been the same since Monty's passing.

[@sebastienemeric9073]

Patrick Villanueva True......Though the Qwor vs Tyrian fight was ok right? At least it is the best fight in volume 4 so fare.

[@studiojapfilms7305]

Sebastien Emeric Yeah it was awesome when Qrow threw his sword and it stuck to the ground and he stood on it, with the background music rocking. I just wished he used his scythe, though with his semblance I think he was afraid of harming the others.

[@sebastienemeric9073]

Patrick Villanueva Mabey but I thank it was mostly that it would have been to bulky and slow to use agaenced the very fast and agile Tyrian.

[@mitchellbaran7917]

I know what you mean. As it stands, the following seasons show that the team really never did recover from the loss - it feels like they're still trying to find their footing in regards to the fights. This, in my personal opinion, is most evident in the cases of Ruby and Qrow since... well, being frank, it feels like Monty was one of the only ones on that team who seemed to animate scythe-wielding with any real fluidity - ever since Season 3, there's been a noticeable lack of scenes where Ruby's use of her trademark weapon is in full-force, especially in Season 5, and Qrow thus far has barely ever used his own. I'm not trying to bash the show though -I'm glad the story and general animation are improving and all. But RWBY was made a thing because of the fight cinematography and choreography - without that, it's just another fantasy series. I'd give every penny in the bank to have someone re-focus things on choreographing fights and bringing them back to at least a comparable level to the first three seasons. As much as I like RT's content, it feels like they're stretching themselves out across too many projects at once - I'd rather take quality over quantity in that regard; even if it means some series get delayed for more than a year, it'd be worth it if it means content that can hold any kind of candle to it's start.

[@Hei_Darkfire]

Honestly, I liked the fight when Velvet fought the mechs. That was the greatest part of an overall shitty final battle of Volume 3 and probably my favorite part of Volume 3. I haven't seen Volume 4 and 5 yet honestly, but I plan to watch those eventually.

[@CrimsonOdachi]

The Nevermore should have quit while it was ahead.

[@lytadaphoenixxd6680]

*facepalms*

[@zachhaake1635]

God dammit Barb/Yang!

[@goldosprey]

Damnit Barb

[@GokaikillerTobi]

it's quit dumbass

[@CrimsonOdachi]

Well thank you, Mr. Grammar Nazi.

[@mrmackellar3337]

Holy shit this looks so much better now it's amazing.

[@thekaboominator1]

4:30 Ruby: aaaaaaaahhhhhhHHHHHHHHHHHH Nevermore: WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?

[@Jakal1391]

Still the best fight in the show.

[@coolUD98]

Agreed

[@FlyntofRWBY]

+Hamburginator How's about now? My favorite has got to be Emerald and Mercury Vs. Coco and Yatsuhashi.

[@Jakal1391]

+Unsolved Paradox Ooh, good point. I've also developed a fondness for RWBY vs Roman and the Paladin. I have a feeling that the Battle of Beacon is going to have some crazy stuff in it though.

[@jw_gojifan19]

+Hamburginator Oh it does

[@FlyntofRWBY]

Hamburginator OH GOD! WHYYYYYYY!!!!

[@blueyoshikid329]

So...did anybody else notice the order in which they all hit the ground at 3:17? Jaune first, then Nora, followed by Phyrra, and then Ren "couldn't stand another minute" and fell face first. I don't know if that was intentional but it's still cool.

[@kerdunne3422]

And only Pyrrha stuck the landing.

[@LatiosXDHalo]

Order of names J, N, P, R

[@virtualbasher9973]

Reading this and realized how much thoughts were put into this

[@blazingkite8983]

I mean dude they even divided the teams before it was done by Ozpin RWBY vs Nevermore while JNPR vs deathstalker... like c'mon, RT knows exactly every single thing they do... yes Ik this is vol.1 but without him doesn't mean RT can't make their shits like this anymore

[@venomlord6384]

Can we appreciate the beat drop on Nora being launched as well?

[@stratigangames508]

THIS is how you do fight scenes. I'm looking at you volume 4.

[@corbin1157]

volume 4 is so slow paced, RIP monty :(

[@gxstly]

Well because Pyrrha isn't in it and she usually did the fast and cool moves. xD

[@damir_van_kalaz]

Well, we've only had four real fights, RNJR vs Golem, Blake & Sun vs Water Dragon Grimm, RNJR vs Tyrian, and Qrow vs Tyrian. I wouldn't really count Blake & Sun vs Ilia, that was more of a chase than a fight. RNJR vs Golem was just... Honestly, my least favorite thing in the series thus far. It was slow, and nothing particularly interesting was involved in fighting it. It was basically just Ruby making things worse for them, Ren being nearly useless except for physics-defying boomerang attack that somehow stunned it, Jaune actually being useless, and Nora being the only contribution to the team. Even the hammer strike that finished the thing was kind of weird. We just get a close-up of Nora flying in, and then a shot of pieces flying. Blake & Sun vs the Water Dragon Grimm was... Well, it was better, but it wasn't anything "great". It felt more like they were playing with the Grimm than actually fighting it. It never really did anything intimidating or threatening to the characters like what happened in this fight with the Nevermore shattering the bridge. In fact, it didn't even land a hit on either of them or the ship. RNJR vs Tyrian was barely a fight, but at least it was fast-paced. Though it really was just Tyrian beating everyone up. Then there's Qrow vs Tyrian... Now that was a fight that I feel is actually on par with this. Sure, it doesn't have the teamwork and cooperation this has, but it was fast-paced, both sides showed that they were skilled, and perfectly placed music like Red Like Roses Part II in this fight. The only downside was that the end of it felt a little anti-climatic. But hey, it's still a huge step up over the other fights this volume.

[@jadenmorin1004]

v4 was a character development season rather then a fight season and your forgot yang vs tai

[@damir_van_kalaz]

+Jaden Morin I said "real fights". I felt that if what was basically just a chase didn't count as a "real fight", it'd be obvious that a short training scene wouldn't either.

[@tayo2810]

The animation is kinda crap, how on earth did monty make it look so good/interesting/amazing/imaginative/legendary when they can barely walk. So much talent XD

[@ze-ce.cra_]

Tayo that is my friend.. the power of the late great Monty Oum

[@electricblaster7798]

One word: *Passion* One name: *Monty Oum*

[@reyasem]

And imagine what he could do with today's RT budget. Pity he had to go to soon

[@HimitsuHunter]

Because Monty TRULY understood the Mechanics of what makes an Awesome Fight... none of this character's standing around doing nothing. EVERYONE involved in the fight is constantly doing something, only time talking happens is when Other characters are busy still engaging the enemy, or they do it while moving to a new combat location. And most of all, they do cool creative things with their powers and weapons all the Time. We lost a master of his art way too soon...

[@vynonyoutube1418]

Fights are what Monty excelled at. He was extremely good at animating fights.

[@That0therG]

it doesn't matter how many fucking times I watch this...I always get goosebumps

[@Roboticbilly]

Shade's Archives omg same😂😂😂

[@Elliven96]

Same dude

[@littleg5664]

I can confidently say this much; the original fight scenes in RWBY were amazing. Volume 4's weren't bad, but they didn't meet the precedence set by the previous volumes. From what I've observed, what the volumes without Monty lack are acrobatics, momentum, and a more creative approach to a fight. The newer fights are too slow and it always seems like the fighting sides take turns. There needs to be constant movement and action to simulate a more engaging, realistic fight.

[@KenTenko]

If you havent i recommend watching a series of videos a KZbinr named Cake made, he puts the shift in animation in a really good perspective and makes it easy to see specifically what went wrong Volume 4+

[@SnazEM783]

I agree, but animation did get smoother, so that's a plus.

[@ReiseLukas]

@@SnazEM783 Smooth Animation is worthless if the writing and characters aren't at their best. I'd rather see a crappy animated series with compelling story and memorable, well written characters then a pretty looking show with nothing else good.

[@SnazEM783]

@@ReiseLukas well, you do you, I just can't stand when the mouth doesn't sync in with the voice.

[@ReiseLukas]

@@SnazEM783 Sure that can be annoying

[@sevenmaxwell9668]

Remember when Ruby was the main character? Ahh... Good times

[@sebastienemeric9073]

sacred white So many good times before volume 3......

[@hamham7318]

+Kooks Peres fk mile for pushing for jaune character development when we don't even have that for the main character

[@dinati7817]

and in 6th volume she is again :D can't wait to see 7th volume

[@boxyscorpion904]

No? It never really felt like Ruby was the main character until like halfway through V3 and even that's debatable

[@lukedarkheart1031]

Ah, the good old days when Phyrra was still here.

[@liannapfister8255]

😭

[@hirotrum6810]

and monty

[@Monsterbaane]

Hirotrum shit dude that's deep

[@foxdraws]

•Starts crying• Don’t remind meeeeee

[@PrismOpal64]

Back when Ruby's voice was at a tolerable octave range instead of inhaling helium to sound cute.

[@juicebox7372]

Lol

[@sciencenerd218]

As much as I loved the show, I mostly fell off the fandom but I'm always coming back to this scene and it always makes me smile due to how cool it was

[@kirbyoutintherain1415]

Yeah monder Rwby is a joke and the fandom is super toxic now. It's another one of those super PC fandoms where you can't even breath without getting yelled at for something. It's such a shame

[@Wellshem]

We are okay to say, season 1 to 3, the powerful hero is Nora. She is fcking a DPS-BURST-MELEE-DISTANCE-AOE-ASSASSIN.

[@mimimara2041]

Agreed. I think that Ruby is good, but Nora is 2% better. They are amazing..!

[@charley6799]

but ruby's ult is so much better

[@LatiosXDHalo]

... what is this overwatch?

[@Wilsontripplets]

Latios XD no it's smite

[@scooty4743]

Nathaniel Wilson If it had CC it would be Warframe

[@msgman]

i feel like Ren is always the one who gets his ass kicked. He gets his ass kicked more than Jaune XD edit: i have watched all of season 4 and he finally kicks ass so now im happy 😀✨

[@pinkwig12]

Lol Ikr

[@mankkillerplays]

I know right... I wish they would make him like they made Blake the quite Obe who keeps himself to himself but is really slick and powerful

[@pinkwig12]

Well he did defeat TWO huge grim snakes so maybe he was tired from then.

[@mankkillerplays]

pink wig12 touche

[@SesamUbe]

Gina Manisap I feel like Ren needs to be in the spotlight more. Sure his weapon isn't as powerful as Nora's or Ruby's BUT STILL, GIVE MY HUSBAND A LITTLE MORE GLORY PLEASE XD

[@Stinger20638]

I CAN NOW SEE EVERYTHING AS IT IS!!!!!

[@Harmonica821]

Mouty Oum only had one weakness as an animator. He's so god damn good that he's literally unreplaceable.

[@KyranSparda]

Killing a bug grimm by smashing it into the ground and killing a bird grimm using a slingshot. Bravo Monty, bravo.

[@salvadoroars]

2:12 i just love how they scaled thru it with their own style. Ruby with lile grip hook, weiss with her platforms, blake running up like a cat and yang like rocket ing with her guns

[@majimetanuki]

This one single scene that started it all. It made me fall in love with this show. Even if the show has its shortcomings or experiencing backlash right now, I'll always look back and watch this. I love this show no matter what.

[@chaosXP3RT]

Me too

[@JReeces]

Back when the fight scenes had that trademark Monty Oum Choreography, miss you man.

[@paragon_edits]

Re-watching this and just noticing now how freakishly strong Ruby is. I mean, she just dragged a Nevermore up the side of the cliff and decapitated it with her sniper scythe. I know she's fast, but still... that takes strength as well.

[@yellowcatgirl]

Definitely not just raw strength but Weiss' glyphs boosting her, you can see just after as it pans out Weiss is out of breath n almost falling over from the toll using it!

[@naiameyers4725]

Remember when the show used to look like a really good video game cutscene😂

[@chaoticneutral7976]

Naia Meyers They really stepped up their animation style

[@kathniss1019]

I love how it ends with Yang saying "Well, that was a thing"

[@em5522]

Watching this at 0.25x speed makes it easier to follow the characters' movements and see the minute details you might miss because it went by too fast, which makes me appreciate the choreography of this fight even more. For example, when Nora blasted the scorpion off the cliff, she swings her legs forward first before shooting to make sure the angle of her shot allows her to go further onto the cliff and away from the edge. That's just beautiful attention to detail.

[@Minymaku]

There was absolutely way more passion in this version than Ice Queendom

[@jjackalope]

I literally came to watch this clip because I was watching Ice Queendom and couldn’t believe how dull made this fight.

[@galuxius1861]

I love how in this scene even with Juane being bad at fighting he still directs his team. He plans the attack very well when he noticed the deathstalkers stinger loose.

[@CarAccidentExdee99]

You know it all makes sense now how there’s like a “magnet” sound whenever Pyrrha’s attacking.

[@calvin7981]

imagine if they could pair the modern animation with this type of choreography. Monty left us too soon.

[@maxhu6121]

I come rewatch this every so often.

[@spazzer1794]

0:05 look at Ruby's running animation so realistic

[@ferny1267]

I want to see you do better

[@HinoChanification]

Volume 9 and this is still my favorite fight in the show. Something about that finisher on the Nevermore is just the absolute coolest thing man. Can't believe how long it's been since this aired.

[@shrutig.730]

Is it just me or does anyone keep rewatching the fight because of the ending? 😂😜😊

[@Bookworm-hz7de]

Nope

[@foxdraws]

I watch for the strategy

[@assassinpredator1]

Man rwby just isnt fucking like this anymore, this still gives me goosebumps and brings a tear to my eye after all these years, nothing after volume 3 even comes close to invoking that kind of reaction from me

[@_LightningAnime]

This Fight is what Made me The Fan I am Today literally I was like this is pretty cool then this then I was in awe and replayed the Ending on loop for a Solid 15 Minutes Also Red Like Roses Part 2 is my Favorite RWBY song of all Time and I Love seeing The scene So Perfectly Meld with The Fight it's a Perfect Match and this will always be my Favorite Fight

[@arrikhaight4582]

LightningAnime is

[@edgarlarios4718]

I understand you completely.

[@maleek7321]

Ruby is so underrated in this series.

[@mimimara2041]

I don't think so, no.

[@kamikazadude2]

I think Ruby is the last person in this show that is underrated.

[@Pasc1331able]

Have you seen season 3? Ruby went against Roman and Neo, by herself.

[@Pasc1331able]

It's comming. I get what you are saying. And we can all agree that after that season finale, she is on her way to some huge badass moments. :)

[@GokaikillerTobi]

just the many flaws of rwby i. general

[@Unlucky403]

This is the fight that sold me on the show and I keep coming back to watch it time and time again. I never don’t get chills watching ruby cut its head off

[@hectormuyuan]

The old fight scenes are so much better…

[@r00sterbok]

Man Monty rlly knew how make every camera angle badass

[@Flappy741]

I never realized how satisfying it was to have the song end just as Ruby lands the finisher.

[@matthewbarrett8479]

There is somthing about this fight that is just so epic. everytime i hear red like roses part 2 start to play during the fight the hairs on my arm stand up, its just such a well choreographed and creative animated peice and they haven't really done anything this good since

[@Mark-fc7tu]

This scene was so much cooler than the Grimm fight at the end of Volume 6. RWBY really has changed that much over the years...

[@naofumiiwantai5438]

Mark346533243 characters don't disappear in the background like in volume 5

[@Mark-fc7tu]

@@naofumiiwantai5438 The camera movements were also surprisingly shaky during the Blake and Yang vs Adam fight.

[@naofumiiwantai5438]

Mark346533243 Yea I most annoying thing is how they ruined some of the characters

[@RanmaYagami]

Remember that time Nora almost killed Blake? Also: JNPR - We tactically cut it's stinger and plunged it into the Deathstalker's head! RWBY - NOW MEN, GROUP UP, AND HIT IT 'TIL IT DIES

[@TheBergMan]

This scene is what had me HOOKED when I saw it years ago... look at the show today. Absolutely tragic😢

[@awkwardpotato4516]

When I heard Ren talk I swear, I almost cried

[@clara6022]

Why

[@angeluss3481]

@@clara6022 Ren used to be voiced by Monty Oum, the guy who made this fight, he died a few years back, so yeah...

[@Smugoli]

DAMN IT. I'm sure we may never get to see such a well animated and exciting fight like this one again. This shows fights were great with Monty Oum as Animation Director and now that he's gone, the shows fights will never be the same :( I'll miss you Monty

[@navalhabr]

I'm here to disinfect myself from the anime version.

[@MHRNA]

The final part objectively went hard but this version had more character to it. Tbf their version was abridged to get to the original content so meh

[@idellolrence]

Lmaoo

[@FezzRosato]

@@MHRNA bro it you think that whack ass glyph float with the Zelda powerup sound effects and Cresent Rose sounding like an X-Wing with covid was going hard then wtf do you think good animation is?

[@MHRNA]

@@FezzRosato wat

[@frannava7175]

What the anime was good

[@TheMixEmperor]

It's kinda sad that this is still the best fight in the series.

[@devinhuery3998]

I

[@chasepadgett9516]

4:42 FATALITY

[@numbjuhnu]

DECAPITATIOOOOON!

[@BIGBLOCK5022006]

Eddie Riggs would be proud.

[@naiameyers4725]

NumbZkull I thought that read despacisto for a second... Wow that song is so mainstream 😂

[@STOPMOTIONNATION101]

Rewatching this after the Ice Queendom adaptation of it. Maybe it's just nostalgia, or the music, but I prefer this way more than the anime version, even if it looks "better".

[@admiral_aidan3925]

Everyone's talking about Ren falling over as the lyrics say "Couldn't stand another minute" but I talk about Ruby flying through the air at 4:22 as the lyrics go "Red like roses"

[@buggydclown8460]

I can’t believe this is still way better than the slop that they made in the later seasons

[@harmonial7288]

Not me coming back to this video to compare it with Ice Queendom

[@blackfire9622]

The original animation from volumes 1-3 felt a lot more realistic than the newer ones. The motions of the characters were faster, and I had a better understanding of the locations.

[@Isvoor]

Yes! Also it always feels like everybody is doing something and nobody is just waiting in the side until the script needs them to do something. There's even a lot of logic to where the characters end up. I've watched this a dozen times but only just realized that when the Nevermore shatters the bridge, the three people left behind are: - Ren and Blake because they bought time for Nora/Weiss to flee - Pyrrha because she stopped to fire and told everyone else to keep running.

[@yorelsenih5054]

the anime did not do this justice

[@kirbyoutintherain1415]

To be fair the anime had to cover all of season 1 in only an hour and uhhh THESE ARE SOME BIG ASS SHOES TO FILL! I agree it was better here but ya gotta remember these things

[@andrewchilds8886]

Best fight of the show, what’s sad is they fight better here than in volume 5

[@soarel325]

YUP! M&K have absolutely destroyed the show's main selling point

[@slippy1769]

I just finished volume 8 and I really wish the old fighting techniques used and demonstrated in this og battle

[@DigidesteinedSayian]

There are some things you can't share with other people without becoming friends, like knocking out a full grown mountain troll with its own club, or decapitating a gigantic bird, or piercing a scorpion's brain with its own stinger.

[@fbihorse]

Somehow I watched all 6 volumes while never noticing a single song that played. I do now seeing it a second time but I love the soundtrack yet miss it.

[@j.j.3866]

Read lyrics, every character has a song that talk about himself/herself. This one (Red like roses) speaks about Ruby's feelings for her mother.

[@muttonhammer7284]

It never dawned on me how much the cast got nerfed in later seasons

[@python1972]

Nerfed?? Who the fuck has been nerfed?

[@muttonhammer7284]

@@python1972 the entirety of team rwby. Their level of movement, power and destruction has been severely nerfed. That or the bad guys are just really fucking strong in later seasons

[@python1972]

@@muttonhammer7284 Well considering they went from fighting Grimm to fighting magic warriors and the best huntsman in militaries...yeah they're not gonna be 1-shotting things

[@APunishedManNamed2]

gotta admit this fight is still leagues above anything else made for RWBY, including the remade Nevermore fight in Queendom what happened man

[@kirbyoutintherain1415]

A electric reaction

[@mrsoul6157]

The reason these fight scenes are better than the newer ones are because you can actually feel the weight behind the hits, the animations are fast but smooth, whereas the newer ones feel a lot slower and the hits don't feel as powerful anymore

[@pheebzdadweeb8140]

I've watched this so many times, and it gets better everytime

[@revenant197]

oh... what happened to Nora? she used to be so cool :'(

[@connormurphy349]

Never realised how much the animation improved until I started rewatching RWBY with my girlfriend

[@norweiseoliver5956]

Nobody: Absolutely nobody: Nora: *pulls a fricking grenade launcher out of thin air*

[@orotaku]

Things you only notice after looking back: how often but how subtly Pyrrha uses her semblance during this fight.

[@d-k3582]

Remember when RWBY had good fight scenes?

[@noox13]

A "good" fight scene doesn't have to be a Monty style fight scene.

[@YHWM14]

@@noox13 Yeah a good example of pretty good fights were Tyrian vs RNJR and Qrow and Adam vs Blake and the first part of Adam vs Yang (which were Monty's animations), than it becomes basically my hero academia with lesbians and that was bad. Still I think that Monty's style had the most attention to details and the best creativity when it comes to tactics using character's abilities and how freely they move in the environment, while now the characters feel so limited on their movements and RWBY's style went missing becoming a generic 3D anime in my opinion.

[@noox13]

@@YHWM14 Yeah, Monty's style is what made a lot of ppl really like RWBY. I was just saying that there are other shows or movies that don't have Monty style but are still good fight scenes. I did enjoy Qrow vs. Tyrian.

[@TheSketch42]

YOOOO i just noticed the metal bending sounds when Phyra throws her shield and sword dude

[@BlueFlameBird]

ruby, at the end:...now how the fuck do i get down????

[@a_worldly_man]

"Wow. That was a thing." -Yang This is why Yang is my favorite character.

[@marcoboscarol2420]

1:17 BEST SCENE XD

[@marcoboscarol2420]

and the decapitation too

[@TheBlackWizardADOS]

I just noticed this, but when Blake throws her weapon, she usually fires it to get extra momentum. They stopped doing that when Monty died.

[@metalman20]

ah this fight has always been one of my favorites. awesome soundtrack to go with a badass fight and this was the fight that officially got me in love with this show.

[@doc_holliday9484]

God I miss Monty’s fight scenes. He loved doing that slow down bit with characters falling or landing so the viewer had time to process what happened before moving to the next segment. The flow of the fight, stylized movements of the characters, and sheer weight of energy can’t be found anywhere else