RWBY Fairy Tales REVIEW : More Like Fairy FAILS! Ha!

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Roosterteeeth's newest RWBY spin off is less than amazing. Each episodes is uniquely flawed, so I guess there's only one way to take a good look at how each episode succeeds and fails as an adaptation, and as a story! Let's dive into the incredibly blandly animated world of "Fairy Tales!"

[@Lord_Moldybutt]

"It feel like RWBY homework". Ah, so we've come full circle from anime homework.

[@nyhtfall1969]

Hahaha

[@lordsinister707]

That was the major problem with the world of remnants

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Jello Apocalypse: "Why do I have the Feeling that somebody *almost* quoted me right now?"

[@TheVTable]

@@johannesseyfried7933 Cuz World of Remnant is

[@YEARZERO-os8tm]

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[@mikerueffer579]

The idea of Salem telling one of these fairy tales as a way to get people to stop bothering her is amusing to me. like i just imagine a young Ruby randomly stumbling across her in the woods, and so she tells her the story and sends her back like some cranky grandmother scolding a naughty child.

[@Mr.EintheMorning]

I miss Nomad of Nowhere. It was one of the few shows that actually managed to handle RT's exposition problem rather well since the MC can't talk.

[@skyrogue1977]

It has potential, too bad RT doesn’t think so.

[@patrickcarter2829]

Yeah, really is a shame that they drove away the creator due to "creative differences".

[@TheVTable]

Actually, they said that needed help from an outside studio to produce that and Camp Camp

[@lordsinister707]

@@patrickcarter2829 I was just about to say that. That's the problem with RoosterTeeth they always try to put in their little spin on shows and they usually suck

[@mtf-epislon9555]

Nomad of Nowhere Nowhere honestly gave me hope for RT

[@rottenappple3716]

You want to know what the worst part of this series was? It’s a REALLY good idea. I spin-off of a series based on real world fairytales going in detail on the in-universe fairy tales/mythology? That’s such a fun idea! Unfortunately, for all the reasons you’ve listed, it falls short.

[@failingeverything5793]

That seems to be a pattern with all of RWBY's concepts. Great on paper, falls short in practice.

[@rottenappple3716]

@@failingeverything5793 yea. Honestly, if you boil RWBY down to it’s raw concepts, it sounds like an absolute banger. But I think the last nine years have shown us all otherwise.

[@cacarlin70]

I think I should suggest the book series The Lunar Chronicles, which is a vaguely futuristic twist on fairy tails It even has much better representation of a character with a robotic arm

[@rottenappple3716]

@@cacarlin70 I appreciate the recommendation, I’ll look into it.

[@andrewrogers3067]

“The Grimm child is the worst episode”

[@yuukichan12]

😂

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Facts

[@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790]

The show has had development for characters. The problem is that it straight up forgets about it or even retcons it in order to accommodate contrived plot conveniences.

[@andrewrogers3067]

@@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 Fair

[@thomasraines1396]

@@snakeslife-uroborodjinn790 it feels like a CW show.

[@Hansss24]

Faunus: *Could have a interesting history of how they came into existence* RT: “Furry God.”

[@Marekthejester]

I think this one is not too bad, because it's exactly what it's supposed to be : A fairy tale, a legend. Something that people narrate but may not be true at all.

[@wilburforce8046]

I didn’t watch fair tales but seriously!? I was kinda hoping for something interesting like Salem created them just to prove a point about humanity. But nah more of the boring god shit.

[@marocat4749]

I think its very fitting, if you literally have furry people, a nature god making the, makes the most sense. The only other way would be weird magical accidents, and its a belief so who knows if it made up or not.

[@marocat4749]

@@wilburforce8046 I dont expect rooster teeth but that could theorethical still be true and ozpin sprad that to not make them even mor hated. Well likely wont happen becaue that requires actual thought out world building. Or it was oz trying bringing peace and backfiring and ... Which would be terrible as if that would be subvrted, in the actual series is bad writing. But intereting. And thats not that original, i stole that from targate atlantis and is kinda a trope.

[@matijasostojic4288]

Isn't this the point of fairy tales. In our world myths/fairy tales are usually either about the world and how it came to be or cautionary(don't know if this is how you spell this) tales. The grimm child is a good representation of that. The chill (grimm in the story) isn't as powerfull in the real world as it is in the story, it is meant to warn and scare kids. Qrow said that diffirent religions and beliefs exist so it isn't that weird that some people believe this is how faunus came into existance and that they weren't made by Salem or the brothers Grimm.

[@Jordan-gp3mj]

I’d LOVE Salem to narrate like you said. More so to bring to life the lie Ozpin is telling people about the “witch in the woods”. Like a big “you made me the monster, so that’s what I’ll be”

[@jonsku6662]

Hell, Salem should have narrated more in general, instead of just a few of the World of Remnant episodes and the beginning of Vol.1 Ep.1 where her voice was the one summarising the concept of Hunter/Huntress'

[@Jordan-gp3mj]

@@jonsku6662 It’d be awesome if she got a chance to narrate moments in her own past as the beginning to Vol 9. So we can FINALLY see how she met everyone, how she perceives her curse, her feelings for Ozma and about the Gods, and any events leading up to now. Seeing as they call her the witch and speak as if everything is all her fault, we deserve her perspective. And then at the end of the episode *cough*, which should be like 40 minutes, we either see her messing with the relics, speaking to Ambrosious and Jinn (cause we’ve never seen two activated at the same time) while they stare uncooperatively, or at home smiling at the fact she’s almost at the end before locking the relics away in her own special vault.

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Blake said something similar. In regards to the faunas and grimm masks.

[@Jordan-gp3mj]

@@derrickdaniels3955 you right! Her and Adam

[@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407]

Nice

[@CoralPallet]

Poppy: Why not me... Grimm: Ups! Sorry I'm new to this. Im just getting use to killing people and god how oculd I forgot you. Damn this is awkward. Yeah... im just gonna, real quick. There you go! all dead. You did John Mcgrimm, a job well done!

[@thejudgmentalcritter6584]

I'm dying over "John Mcgrimm"!!! Congratulations! You've won the new "Best comment I've seen in a while" award!

[@CoralPallet]

@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 Thank you TvT)7 and keep doing a good job with the videos!!!!

[@yuvalhuck1]

That’s a job mood if ive ever seen one

[@kingj9664]

@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 I find it funny that rooster Teeth tries to be progressive but progressive but they decide to take the one story they had with a black main character in the sides to whitewash them and no 1 in rooster teeth. Hey that might not be a good idea. Also if you want to complain about supplementary material have you ever heard of a series called fate/stay night

[@adamtaurusragnathebloodedg8407]

People die if they are killed

[@Art-zp1qg]

I really loved the design of the Faunus Deity. It was a really original and I wish they’d done similarly original and detailed designs for the Gods from volume 6.

[@samuelmcewen9011]

yeah like just 2 silhouettes with horns come on you should be able to do better than that.

[@firelordwaffle2987]

i initially thought that this was their attempt at a redesign

[@theguywithsomething8634]

@@samuelmcewen9011 eh, I'd argue that two silhouettes with horns is still a pretty unique design and gets across the idea that they are very much not us quite clearly. I mean, there are all sorts of ways to design otherworldly beings, this silhouette one is simple but effective and is well within the show's style. Animal god is pretty neat too, but that doesn't mean the light god and the dark god have designs that don't convey what they are.

[@samuelmcewen9011]

It could if they had not used Blank sihouettes in earlier volumes for extras that shit just makes it worst.

[@astereotypicalgamer1708]

The two different Faunus myths do seem to imply that the Antlered God/God of Animals is one of the two brothers, and according to a different fairy tale, the two brother gods are featured in EVERY mythology of Remnant. The worldbuilding is there, but the religions are definitely very simple in execution.

[@minecraftWithDanielD]

Is it wrong that I see the Silver Eyed warrior and think of Raven? Like, she bears more resemblance to Raven than Summer, and is more like an amalgamation of the two. I think Tai is projecting more than we realise, like how maybe both had to save his ass on multiple occasions

[@somedragonbastard]

It's the floomf hair. Runs in the Branwen family.

[@xandersegovia4120]

Yeah that's what I got when I watched it that he was projecting both his wives on the heroine and himself on the boy.

[@aceofsharks9837]

I only disagree with one thing; you could totally recognize The Huntsman's Children if they were added to RWBY Proper! They're black, and RWBY only has, like, 5 black people otherwise.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Really? That has to be a.... Wait, let me count! We got Emerald, Ceil Soleil, Marrow, Prof. Pietro Polendina, Sage from Sun's Team.....

[@18shadowolf]

@@johannesseyfried7933 marrow is actually a Desi coded character

[@trilight3597]

Flint Coal....Yastuhashi.....Fox....that guy from team BRNZ...and the other one on the other team that fought team RWBY in Volume 3.... ....uh...Watts?....Penny's dad that disappeared....the other girl on Penny's team....Marrow....and I'm actually trying to think hard for important characters....Maria, doesn't count imo. Anyone else that I'm forgetting? But let's be real, they wanted to be an "anime" originally, or there originally wasn't going to be. My problem with RWBY is that they NEVER use their already existing characters. Again Penny's Team? In Volume's 7-8? Team BRNZ (minus 1 or 2 people) in Volumes 4-5. Like I hate that they create one note characters and toss them.

[@18shadowolf]

@@trilight3597 yastuhashi is not a black character. Flint Cole is a hundred percent of black character and the jury is still out on Fox, this is what the difficult thing about figuring out which characters are black or which characters are non black people of color. What makes it so difficult in the show to tell which characters are black and which characters I just Non black people of color is there hair given the fact that has black people we have a unique hair texture that allows us to have unique hairstyles most anime shows just put us in the same hairstyles they would their other characters what makes things quite confusing because then the second thing we look for his who's the voice actor or actress voice in the character and if they are black usually if a dark-skinned characters voiced by a black person than that leads us to believe that that character is indeed black. What makes it so hard in this show is that a lot of our dark-skinned characters have hairstyles that don't really match our ethnic backgrounds for example emerald and fox. I won't lie the show has gotten better with this by volume eight as the Black characters actually have black voice actors this time and black hairstyles

[@trilight3597]

@@johannesseyfried7933 Ones that actually matter. I actually forgot Emerald in my list below. Because all she did was Cinder Simp. Ceil wasn't even a character. Marrow was just a mouth piece for Faunus "racism", which they had Adam for, but made him into evil ex-boyfriend. Pietro fucked off, not to mention, made a white daughter if you care about that. Sage hasn't done anything, books doesn't count.

[@FlipDarkFuture]

I knew as soon as I saw the one involving the 'creation' of the Faunus, that it would be absolutely terrible. As mythical origin stories go, it's incredibly unimaginative to have your animalistic half-human minority turn out to be... people that a random god decided to merge with sentient animals to teach them a lesson about not being that different from each other? Not only that, but that that the addition of vague animal bits like horns and tails suddenly turns their own communities against them? I didn't think I would watch something that was scraping the barrel of RWBY's 'lore' more than the world of remnant did, but here I am.

[@A_Crab_YT]

I personally do not mind the cliché in favor of having the story, and as supplementary material I see no qualms with it

[@joerogers9413]

It would of made Blake's original story arc impossible, but they should of made the Faunus human grim. Like their descendants of Salem's children or something. That would of made the alleged prejudice against the Faunus make more sense.

[@johnking9943]

I agree about the vague animal bits. Not sure if RWBY could pull this with their animation, but I feel that the Faunus should have been straight up anthropromorphic animals.

[@kazzfuchsia1073]

@@joerogers9413 Prejudice doesn’t make sense in general. There is no reason to hate Black, Asian, Latine, MENA, Indigenous folk because we aren’t inherently dangerous. That is the problem of Faunus being Grimm/Salem’s children/experiments etc because it makes the hatred make sense.

[@joerogers9413]

@@kazzfuchsia1073 Only if the human grim Faunus were evil in the story. If Blake and Sun and Velvet were still good guys but hated for their appearance, then it would work. It would actually be deeper. You could even still have the red claw/black claw conflict going on.

[@mray4784]

Naming the family as the TMNT was genius, they even has the same colors! XD

[@zerotohero1483]

I can’t believe we are back to the shadow background people. It only took 7 volumes. Honestly, you are 100% correct. One of these fairy tales becoming necessary to the show. I think the two most likely ones are going to be the Grimm Child or the Warrior in the Woods, and that does not excite me. Mostly cause those two stories are gonna pound me over the head with a sledgehammer with its subtlety and execution in the show. Also, the fact that Jaunes emblem can be found in the girl in the tower makes me angry. This dude is getting more importance because you know for a fact that they are going to make him even more important in the next few volumes. Salem is gonna see him and have a flashback to one of her children and that’s gonna be how they reveal that Salem and Jaune are related. I hope that doesn’t happen, but honestly, it probably will. The writers love Jaune too much to not do that.

[@thrasher9534]

Bro i hate that's the first thing i saw when watching it why even make Ruby the main character 🤣

[@jonnjones8263]

The writers already confirmed that Jaune and Salem are not related. As usual the complaints about Jaune are empty and worthless as ever. lol. There are plenty of things wrong with Jaune(and all of the characters really) that fans making themselves angry over non-existent problems is just silly. Why invent a problem in your head just to make yourself mad about it? lmao.

[@josephbriggs2257]

I think Kerry’s confirmed in a QnA that Jaune and Salem aren’t related. Still, I’d really prefer Jaune just die already. I don’t care how bad of a shitshow it’d cause, I don’t even think it’d fix the problems with how the show treats the main team, I just want him dead and buried.

[@thrasher9534]

@@jonnjones8263 but why is his symbol even there? Was it one of his ancestors!? Like it doesn't make sense!

[@falconeshield]

@@josephbriggs2257 He's taken over the show a wee much

[@UnicornofWar]

As someone who's been on a horror movie kick recently, I would just like to say the only scary thing about the Grimm Child is how confused I still am over it... and also Poppy's lack of ankles. What kinda no-budget Exorcist knockoff???

[@thejudgmentalcritter6584]

what cracks me up over Poppy's feet, is when she gets the Grimm stuff we see her walking over glass and SUDDENLY she actually DOES have toes???? Like? Hello? We couldn't have been using this for the rest of the shots with her ugly feet?!

[@UnicornofWar]

@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 ... so is RT trying to say toes are demonic, or...?

[@silvereyes242]

@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 It’s when you described them as “ugly ass potato feet” that I cackled full on Baba Yaga style.

[@ProxyDoug]

Man, doesn't it sucks when a student mentor relationship turns into a shoehorned romance out of nowhere... well, anyhow. Salem being 16, which implies she shouldn't look much older than our main girls right now is weird, like how Cinder is supposed to be 10 years old when she meets Rhodes, but looks 14, and years later into her training, she looks the same. That said, it could've been interesting if she was indeed much younger, not only because it would bring home the idea that she's immature and doesn't understand the natural order of the world. Maybe instead of being Ozma's lover, she could've been his daughter, so his failure in raising her is reflected in the way he treats his students. She would see the Grimm more like toys or pets and care more about them than the people around her, and it bring home the show's fairy tale themes since Ozpin proliferated these stories around the world, to teach people the lessons she never learned.

[@kazzfuchsia1073]

I think that Salem was an adult and the 16 part is just a fairy tale aspect. It makes no sense otherwise because she reads to me as an childish adult in the Lost Fable.

[@silentecho92able]

Personally, what they should have done with the *"Indecisive King"* story at least in my opinion. In his story it should have ended with the Kings vision of the future coming true years later. As during the years leading up too his Kingdoms inevitable destructions he never prepared for what is to happen. Essentially seen's this storyline involves the Relic of Choice so essentially choices matter. The Widow decision to tell the King to live in the present and not worry about the future, this makes the King to have the decision to Marry the woman and neglect *"His future"* leading to his Kingdom not being prepared for a Grimm invasion and the death of all his subjects and his Queen. The King being the only survivor wanting answers to why all of this have come to pass puts on the Crown, ones again too see far into the future an find a way to fix this problem. But this time the King loses his mind as seeing far into the future his mind could not take it and he devolved into the state we see him at the start of the story. An The Mysterious Man who gave the King the Crown in the first place returns and reclaims the Crown from the now vegetative king who is forever lost in madness and eternal grief. I think in my opinion at least this story could work this way.

[@samuelmcewen9011]

that actually sounds like a great twist the king lived a happy life and died peacfully but a generation later his kingdom fell. Due to the king not using the relic to prepare the kingdom and deciding to live a good life while he can.

[@marocat4749]

No i think it should put just more thought that out choices determine the future, and showcase that with honestly just a story where the king tries to help and he trie to help but him relying on the crown ends in failure but his wife reminds him together can they change that , and they do.

[@ichangednametoamorecringyo1489]

I love this

[@buttercupkat]

"What happens to the mortal mind when there's too much to bear?" They stop watching RWBY.

[@georgemeyers7172]

Oh SNAP!

[@ledge-magee]

Having Tai narrate the story, forgetting that Ruby had no idea what silver eyes even were at the end of Volume 3. They are not good at memory-related things, evidently.

[@Ammy-q4w]

The story was being told when Ruby and Yang were children. Also, Ruby wasn't even supposed to know what silver eyes could do, he just mentioned their color for the story's sake.

[@ledge-magee]

@@Ammy-q4w Yeah, I did mean that if they already knew when they were children, how would it make sense for them to not know later after Volume 3 what they were? I'll admit - I haven't watched the context entirely - so perhaps it is for the story's sake, but if I was in the writer's room I wouldn't risk that ambiguity

[@brianford4914]

I like how Rooster Teeth keeps just doing the bare minimum (or below) for RWBY and just not giving the necesary information or answers and instead makes entire supplemental works to do the work they didn't bother doing in the actual show. Like it's almost sinister how Rooster Teeth can get away with leaving us completely confused by not giving us the necessary information or background in the show and then just put out supplemental material to fix it and call it a day. It makes me look at other works and say "Man imagine if in AOT I had to read another manga to figure out how the titans work and how to kill them or how the Military works."

[@sonloto8010]

Another problem with the SW sequel trilogy. If you need other media to get a plot point that wasn't answered, that's very bad storytelling.

[@fandomonium3789]

I initially avoided watching the Fairy Tales because I was certain it was going to be homework. But I do like your idea of the active reading of fairy tales. I like Blake and Sun comparing versions the most. Very organic and good characterization. Which explains why it's not the direction RT went. RWBY doesn't know how to use its own characters to tell a story.

[@linked2dio26]

The indecisive kings design gives me a *HEAVILY* diluted Macbeth vibes. Not sure why just the premise an design reminds me of the Shakespeare story

[@superpaytonmars8852]

Teenage magic ninja hunters! Teenage magic ninja hunters! Teenage magic ninja hunters! Heroes who are half-assed! Lazy power!

[@justinduffany5580]

I rather like Nomad, it deserves more credit.

[@kingj9664]

It dose

[@marocat4749]

It does and never will continue when the main plot comes now into fruition.

[@GenevieveYosoVT]

"The only fairytales weve ever heard, sans The Girl who Fell through the World have all come true." Volume 9: Haha, you thought.

[@NotCheyenne]

"Half ass connection between Tai and one of his wives-" Took me OUT

[@skyrogue1977]

The King went crazy after discovering Rule 34.

[@silvereyes242]

Oh the places you’ll go

[@derrickdaniels3955]

Oh yes

[@rileyramsey1327]

I really like the narrative choice of the narrator and listener, and using it once for only tai with ruby and yang misses out on the chance to use other canonical characters to literally share these fairytales with each other, and further flesh out the world building! like, if the story of the shallow sea was between blake and her parents, it better establishes that this is a tale circulated by faunus about themselves, or like the story of the girl in the tower being winter trying to help weiss fall asleep after a nightmare of feeling trapped- creating parallels with the characters we already know by showing what fairytales they grew up on! especially since in like volume 2 ruby literally tells professor oobleck that she was inspired by those same fairytales of hunters and huntresses to be one herself. for a show and world that is supposedly very culturally rich with fairytales and stories, we barely see how our cast of characters are inspired by or cautioned by them.

[@maurofantin315]

2:28 Another amazing example of this sort of animation is the show Wakfu. It uses a similar style of animation (although with more hand drawn elements) but I think it's arguably better; more dynamic camera angles, fluid movements, a real sense of depth, and incredibly well choreographed fight scenes- as well as a better and more compelling story (though that's subjective).

[@justasentientmclarenp1879]

You know Afro samurai vs Samurai Jack has a good use of handrawn animation Saitama vs Popeye does too.

[@seijitheicedrake9487]

Wait, when the silver eyed woman in the Warrior in the Woods kills the Grimm, her blade has blood on it, yet in the show proper the Grimm don't bleed and the weapons stay relatively clean of blood. RT, that was one of your most consistent details about the show, how'd you screw it up in the spin off?

[@lilyovalle7254]

Idk, a fairytale did it

[@themonarchofbaddecisionmak1405]

I'm kind of sad that they didn't look at the Arne Thompson Uther tale type index. Basically, it's a catalogue of folktale types used in folklore studies about what do fairytales around the world have in common. An example would be the children and the witch (Hansel and Gretel fit into this) or unnatural love (where donkey skin fits in). It would be really cool to see the remnant fairytales follow a tale type and the motifs and archetypes of said tale type.

[@TigerWing95]

They could've fixed the whole Poppy scenario with her ugly feet, just by giving her shoes. Just give her shoes or socks or something!

[@TwilightStasis]

On the initial watch of The Grimm Child I thought that the twist was that Poppy was the one infected, and that when she was walking around she was killing people without intending to because the chill made her think she was fine. Because of that shot where she grabs that person beneath the bed and pulls them out dead, only for her to be suddenly affected. I was just grasping at straws to find a plot that made sense

[@georgemeyers7172]

Honestly... That would make for a good twist... Though... It probably wouldn't save the episode thought.

[@isaiahvayne]

Crud... I have more questions now... I so that means that Vale has the crown. Soooooo Ozpin... what's going on?

[@thejudgmentalcritter6584]

To be fair, Vale has always had the crown. It's the one Salem and Cinder wasn't able to find. A plot point that surprisingly has not been discussed at all for quite some time, actually. You'd think team RWBY would've asked about it by now?

[@isaiahvayne]

Shiiit im still stuck on what else that fucking cane of his can do

[@thrasher9534]

@@thejudgmentalcritter6584 hold this like and subscriber

[@itsblitz4437]

@@isaiahvayne well it was always hinted at with the RWBY short of the Great War.

[@liberleo1384]

@@isaiahvayne his cane absorbs kinetic energy from the strikes ozma makes and can release it through an explosion which he designed to specifically destroy Grimm

[@CodyMacArthurFett]

Actually, "The Warrior in the Woods" has a different appearance in the text of the story compared to the art. In the text she's described as a tall, fair woman with messy black hair flecked with white. She also has a completely different outfit in the text compared to the art. About the only thing the art has in common with the text is that she uses a billhook. Her appearance in the text isn't like what it is in the show, mind you, but her appearance in the show is closer to what it is in the text. The romance angle is also there from the start in the text. It's a very "love at first sight" sort of thing.

[@dylans.1741]

In my opinion, I think that the warrior from the book is much more attractive than the warrior from the show. That's not to say that the show's warrior is unattractive, but I just think that her book counterpart more closely resembles the kind of women I'd be attracted to in real life

[@JesseGolo]

12:15 That sounds very bloody interesting. Ozpin changing a fairy tale to protect people from a very real threat. Wish they'd included it.

[@boid9761]

Wait, Salem is 16 but looks 20? OH MY GOD SALEM JOESTAR CONFIRMED

[@Art-zp1qg]

I just saw the burrito part and all I could think of was Katara asking the fortune teller lady what she should eat and it turning out to be papaya.

[@Cinnayanny]

Honestly? After watching this, the one story that intrigues me the most is "The Grimm Child". Like, none of it matters because the start is really bad. I haven't read the original, but a better way to start would be having Poppy see nothingin the forest, send Oak in, wait until afternoon, then find him cold and asleep. Having Oak look like a literal demon doesn't make sense. As someone with a brother, if I saw him with blacked-out eyes and red cracks I'd ditch. But also, if I saw him with closed eyes and lying still, I'd assume he's asleep or dead, using the coldness of the skin to determine. Poppy's probably 9 or something, so we can assume she'd bring her brother home, hoping he's just asleep. Boom, instant setup. Also can be used for extra humanisation as Poppy realised Oak might be dead judging by parental reactions. Also, that story feels like one that could benefit from being told by Tai to a young Ruby and Yang. Have Ruby be scared at the end, before Tai assures her that the Chill are extinct. (Oh, and have the Chill actually be extinct. This is supplemental material, and I don't trust RT enough to have the Chill come into the show and explain them in the show.)

[@sebastianwhite1097]

I think the reason the fanus queen lady has 4 fingers is because foxes have 4 toes, which still doesn't fit with how fanus usually work but whatever.

[@brittanyhoward1741]

I think my favorite has to be the girl in the tower. Not only in entertainment, but also the fact that it all but confirms that even when she was human and trapped in a tower, Salem was still fucking things up for every man who entered her life 😂

[@GaleGrim]

14:14 I think a good set of names for them is Flax(brown), Aquin(Aqua), Marion (maroon), and Lilly (Lilly). Tho this would be before the war with atlas I assume so maybe not. It just.... Feels right. and makes their team name FAML like family. Cause that's what they are.

[@maxwellmediainc]

NOT KING COCK I HOLLERED 😭😂😂😂😂

[@SagaVonDrusus]

The supplemental material is kind of the reason why I dropped Ruby altogether, I just don't have the time anymore to literally do homework for a show I have been losing interest in as the years go by, really sucks that they're still doing this.

[@anaemiliaalmeida7238]

AMEN, WELCOME TO THE CLUB!!!!!

[@strawberryqueen0382]

I mean if anything the colors on the characters look good-I mean just okay? The fanart of these characters I’ve seen has been great.

[@redhead_bebs]

29:11 I love this concept so much! I wish they would've done this! (Especially the Shallow sea by Blake's parents to a child Blake, I miss Kali and Ghira)

[@brianheroic9543]

Whaaaaat!? Rooster Teeth flaked out on RWBY and cut corners again?! Who could've expected that!?

[@samiam7327]

The king's pony tail kind of looks like a lump of fur on his shoulder. I think he should eat it.

[@bobi200samatar6]

For reference for what 2d tween animation can do, and why this show looks so bland, look up scenes from Wander over Yonder, Kid Cosmic, Motor City and Randy Cunningham. Tween can let artists achieve great effects, and it's such a shame to see another instance of it being used as a short cut.

[@constantdisappointment5658]

Another issue with the execution of this concept is how the stories don't seem to be connected with each other. If the Indecisive King was Salem's father who locked her in the tower because of what he envisioned, and the Grimm Child was the beginning of Salem's rise to power after Ozma died, I think it would have been more interesting and more like a glimpse in how people see the historical events as fiction, but we the audience slowly learn that these actually happened because of what we were shown in the original series

[@yorklane5930]

You know while watching this I noticed something, there's a theory that Jaune is related to Salem in some way because he's blonde with blue eyes and when she was human Salem was blond with blue eyes and while watching the clips I noticed there's a symbol that looks like his emblem around Salems room, now its not exactly the same but its pretty close, so yeah that's gonna add something to the 'Jaune and Salem are related theory'

[@SEB1991SEB]

Yeah, 'The Grimm Child' was the worst one for me, specifically because it does a terrible job of explaining things. To be fair, when there's a single character, then it's much easier to explain things in a book, because it can show what the character's thinking. But you can't do that with tv/film. But even so, there was just no attempt even. I think they would've been able to do it much better if they'd have just slowed things down a little, it felt very rushed. Also in the book, Oak doesn't look so obviously possessed right from the start, he just looks very pale and feverish. He only got the red lines on his arms later on. So it makes more sense why Poppy doesn't realise that something is seriously wrong, and thought he just caught a chill.

[@lovelylife3012]

Your idea of having different characters narrate each story would've made the stories feel more freshly told.Stories across remnant ''Hello''

[@ShizuruRavenRobin026]

Wish the shorts told side story for voles 4-8 like more on Oscar home life,how he got his v6-8 outfit,more on ruby mom ,more winter an penny being friends,more on iron wood and ozpin,more on ozma other life,more Nora or Weiss in v7-8 Anything better then this

[@SwitchbackCh]

So spot on how RT uses supplemental material to bandaid the main show's shortcoming's. It's another piece in the puzzle of why the main show feels devoid of life - it's been bleeding that creativity and spreading it out among five other things.

[@sarahlivingston]

RWBY Chibi is less supplemental and more "Hey, things got dark, wanna laugh again?" But then they sandwiched it in a First show for money.

[@irmiwolf]

Also am I the only one wondering why the symbol on every banner in the Salem Episode is the symbol of Jaune just with an added diamond on it? Thinking about it Salem looks like she could be Jaunes mother/ancestor, but that could just be because for some reason blondes in RWBY mostly have blue eyes too.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

If there's one thing I enjoyed about these Fairy Tales, then it was Tai being a Dad and reading to Ruby and Yang. :) Its nice to see the Girls in casual Clothes from time to time, and I actually really like how Ruby looked in this Episode. Its a very minor Thing, but it made me smile.

[@gyroshard00forever20]

It feels supplemental content, that doesn't really count at all imo. I feel nothing but pain.

[@firelordwaffle2987]

the stories themselves also rang very hollow to me

[@denied9]

This show makes me believe that Rooster Teeth saw Star Wars Visions and thought “Yeah we can do that”

[@ohmichael1348]

after seeing the quality of the background story animation of genshin impact, this just look...too cheap....

[@Dragster-mv3vx]

So the Deer from Princess Mononoke created furries then.

[@TheVTable]

Oh God, I see it

[@chadtheladGMT]

huh i didn't even notice that the lady in the indecisive king was a faunus o-o

[@nomad4338]

The worst part is I kind of like a lot of the character designs from this show, what sucks is they're stuck in a show that doesn't matter. I even liked the Warrior's design, I liked her original design too, I would actually prefer that those were 2 separate characters instead of just we decided to whitewash this person for some reason. It's just so frustrating that for every good thing there's like 3 places where they fumble and for every good idea there's always a negative side.

[@silverscorpio24]

I don't really care other than they're using the same animation and art style as Nomad of Nowhere and Camp Camp; two great shows they axed in favor of defiling RWBY

[@firelordwaffle2987]

the style ultimately depends on the studio.

[@Da_caffeinated_insomniac]

If they do more story’s like the warrior of the woods storytelling with other characters I would watch the others just for that alone (but more of Shannon’s sexy ass voice isn’t a bad thing)

[@diversitydiversity-r8n]

I agree that different narratirs and audience would have assisted these shorts

[@dyllan1001]

I do reccomend reading the book some of these stories are similar but some are told much better especially the grimm child maybe just watch a read through like celtic phoenix so don't need to buy it

[@littlekuribohimposte]

RT isnt even reusing their own ideas. Raphael’s Semblance is word-for-word Sherlock’s Noble Phantasm from Fate.

[@cretinouscretin9677]

The thing with The Grimm Child is that, in the book, it's not that Ozpin CHANGED the story to be more in-line with Salem, but that this was the altered, vastly more popular telling of the story. Kind of like how the Disney versions of certain fairytales will by and large become the most recognized ones. The Grimm Child story we hear, as Oz explains, was over time merged with elements of another story about a white witch in the woods (ie, Salem) which, bears several other similarities to Grimm Child. It’s this cross-bleed and mixing of elements from the two that led to people telling it with the inclusion of the physical, visual elements of the Chill’s possession (pale skin, empty eyes, varicose veins etc.); it’s implied heavily that in the original telling there was no visual way of knowing who was possessed until they dropped dead. Ozpin notes that the reason so many elements of the original telling of Grimm Child were changed because people wanted to tell the story with an easy way of identifying the Chill, and in doing do dismissed the point that evil can hide behind any face. It tells us that indeed, human nature is to believe that we’ll be able to identify evil; that it’s plain and clear, even though in the original tale Poppy had no way of knowing that what she was bringing home wasn’t her brother anymore. The short does not acknowledge this at all, so the actually INTERESTING part of Grimm Child and what it told us about the people of Remnant, was completely lost in translation.

[@Goldendoodlegamer11]

I personally did like the shorts, (especially with its backgrounds, music, and the designs of some of the characters like baby Ruby and The Animal God) but I agree with you on the art style being super disconnected from the show itself. Also the weird cross-fade thing for EVERY action was a bad choice and really bogged down the pacing. I also love your suggestion of using different characters to tell the different fairytales; it would be really nice and a way to breathe new life into the supplemental material without it ALWAYS being Ozpin who’s narrating. Great video as always!

[@linked2dio26]

13:55 Rob Zombie sample. Very vintage an fitting choice, nice. 9/10

[@pumkin610]

I love these videos, I probably showed up to your channel because of rwby, but I began to enjoy your content outside of rwby too. There are only a few creators that make content that I actually want to watch, and you are among them.

[@coffeewolfproductions9113]

I think one of the most disappointing parts of this collection is one story they decided not to adapt. Now I know that there is no way that they can or should adapt every fairytale in the book, but there is one in particular I would have really liked to see them do. Not only is it one of the more interesting stories in the book, but it is a great parallel to The Girl in the Tower that says a lot about Ozma. The Infinite Man To quickly summarize, Ozma's reincarnation goes to a town and ends up gaining a group of followers due to his magic powers and his ability to reincarnate. He warns his followers not to put their faith in him because he was "just a man, and not even a very good one." This advice is ignored though and one day an army ends up attacking Ozma and his followers and kill Ozma in the struggle. By the time he revives and gets back to his group he finds out that the place was destroyed and all but one of his followers were killed. The one left (who Ozma doesn't reveal his identity to) says that she was left here as a message and a warning of "placing all their hopes into one man, not even a very good man." I love this story and how it characterizes Ozma just like how The Girl in the Tower characterizes Salem. While The Girl in the Tower portrays Salem and Ozma as the heros, The Infinite Man portrays Ozma as a morally grey and often foolish person that makes mistakes just like everyone else. Not only that but the message of not putting your blind faith into someone because we are not perfect is a good message that fits in with the other stories of this book. Would it have been a good adaptation? Honestly who knows? Does it matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. But I still feel a bit disappointed.

[@adesimahenry1244]

Whitewashing the silver eyed girl in the latest episode was a REALLY scummy move and I'm sure EVERYONE agrees

[@samuelmcewen9011]

she might have been black in the book.

[@adesimahenry1244]

@@samuelmcewen9011 she WAS black in the book

[@pumkin610]

The more people there are, the less they agree. That's usually why having a leader is useful. I don't know how to feel about it, but I do know that it was completely unnecessary to make her white just to make sure people knew it was a reference to a white mom. That erasure of representation really doesn't mix with rwby's themes.

[@groynin]

Actually a lot of people were 'fine' with it because 'it was Tai interpreation of the story!' and he was seeing Summer there or something, which is very stupid reasoning imo.

[@pumkin610]

@@groynin thats partly why im not hating on them, it makes sense story wise and they obviously didn't mean to whitewash anyone, well i hope

[@groynin]

I dropped the Fairy Tales on the Shallow Sea episode, to me even when the morals were 'good' they were presented in such a basic way that if someone just walked up to me saying 'hey, stay together to fight monsters! its better that way!' would have the same emotional impact. I came back to watch the Girl in the Tower because someone said it was good, but idk, even the king's motivation felt stupid. His wife died in *childbirth* so he didn't want Salem to leave to protect her from the world? Wtf? It wasn't something outside in the world that killed his wife, that would make a lot more sense if she had died to a Grimm outside or to a bandit or anything else, not by giving him a child.

[@zoneco9013]

I honestly really loved the Fairy Tales of Remnant book, I thought it worked really well as supplemental material and felt like something I could imagine being in the world without feeling like it was necessary to read. I am not however, a fan of this version. Also since Jaune's symbol showed up in Salem's tower you know for certain that hes gonna turn out to be a descendant of Salem or something, possibly of a survivor of Salem's children with Oz, and will probably pull magic out of his ass or start a Salem redemption arc or some bs in V9. I'm almost surprised they didn't go ahead and have Jaune's mother or one of his sisters tell him the story just to really bash it into everyone's skulls that Jaune is important and special. I'm really hoping that if they continue this then they will put in more effort for the other stories. But its rt so oh well I guess

[@bucketofcalzones457]

especially going off of the ending oz narration of the chills episode, I almost thought the intentions is that the main character was infected as well as her brother, and her wandering around was the grim inside her tricking her perception to make her walk around and spread the grim infection/kill the villagers. would make the line "we often don't recognize the evil inside ourselves." make sense.

[@synderthmc]

29:45 This render of oscar looks so good, maybe is because his shape reads as an actual human head shape. The face in the show looks way too triangular to me.

[@patrickthehenchman2679]

What makes the redesign of the Silver Eyed Warrior even weirder to me is, not just the skin color and hair, but adding on the tufts of hair on the sides of her head, her more muted colored clothes, and her more stoic face with the triangle mouth... to me it looks as if they were trying to make her look like BLAKE

[@purplespades9632]

I can't believe you talked about feet for 22 seconds straight.

[@JoshtheOverlander]

"There's way too many variables to determine how the crown is supposed to work!" Yep, that's a relic of Remnant, alright. So far, the only one that makes sense and isn't incredibly broken or Ultra vague is the lamp.

[@Dragiare]

Uh... Was that Jaune's family crest in Salem's room?... Are they going to say that Jaune is special because he's a descendant of Salem? Is that why the friendly scorpion psych found him interesting over his silver eyed target?

[@averageanimefan519]

Actually according to the writers on Reddit, it was a mistake. Someone asked and they said they can see that it’s similar but Jaune and Salem aren’t related.

[@Dragiare]

@@averageanimefan519 I hope they stick to that.

[@PanzerIVAE]

I'm 13 minutes in and I'm honestly really sad about how good the first story's synopsis sounds like and the potential it has yet the execution is just bad. Kinda reminds me of the Star Wars Prequels, the general plot of the story is good and has potential (That the TV series luckily used) but the execution of the movies were just bad.

[@sumandark8600]

I didn't even know that there was a RWBY fairy tales spinoff

[@MonsterKing_97]

14:13 you know considering the blue one has a Turtle shell on his shoulder, the purple one is the smart one, the fact they’re siblings, plus they have the same colors as them they are probably based on the Ninja Turtles.

[@enigma3383]

Feel like crunchy roll has more worth watching, like I’m not gonna wait through ads for the last 3 or 4 chapters for RWBY or Red vs Blue Zero. Like it’s just not worth it

[@sketchpadamber2008]

I have the book and out of the stories I read, the Warrior in the Woods is very interesting bc at the end, the main kid goes to find the Warrior but he finds her house ruined. It’s implied that she either left or she was killed by the Grimm. My second favorite is the Shallow Sea bc it was interesting to read how the Faunus was supposedly made.

[@Redeyedragonblade]

Thank you so much. I agree so much with what you said. And I didn't think of the cool idea of giving different narrators. That would have been great.

[@TheVickyvoo]

Honestly, whenever these would come out every week I just was not looking forward to them. Yes, I would still watch them, but I would never find myself watching them as soon as they came out, maybe like a day or two after. They just didn't really get me excited and, as you explained they just weren't entertaining nor were they engaging. This really saddens me because I've been watching RWBY since volume three started, and to see the show go down this path makes me think about how I still wish Monty was with us to finish his creation, I'm always thinking about how he would have executed things, what the show would look like now, etc.

[@katecampbell6464]

You just blew my mind! I wish that the stories were told by the RWBY cast! I like Ozpin narrating but it would be so much better using the other characters to tell it. Great video!❤️

[@TheVTable]

*Sees the title of the video* Patrick: Boooo 👎

[@Mistbanditisawsome]

What the hell

[@TheVTable]

@@Mistbanditisawsome it’s a obviously bad pun

[@chadtheladGMT]

i can hear the rimshot from here

[@pedmonds2011]

I got your Spongebob reference 🤣. “You know just hanging around.”

[@emectric1455]

I watched these episodes in a binge yesterday. I didn't get anything out of it, just felt like I needed to because I'm somewhat invested in Rwby

[@DocMicrowave]

I don't think these 'fairy tales' might have had the effect on the fandom CRWBY thought it should in terms of some of the in-show narratives. The girl in the tower certainly did not instill in me any sympathy for Salem situation if that was what was intended. Exactly opposite in my view. She was always manipulative. Her father wasn't really evil. Just over protective. She wanted someone to kill her father. The indecisive king was pretty much an Ironwood story. And it basically showed if Ironwood was shown more compassion and understanding, it's possible he would not have went down the dark path he did. Instead he got exactly the opposite from the 'heroes'. I have a feeling that these takes on some of the tales were not intended or expected by CRWBY. Could be wrong of course.

[@pumkin610]

To me the king story seems like a way to blame ironwood more. "You should have loved poor people more. If you had just forgotten about war and trusted in love then you would still be a hero. The king version of you learned his lesson, why couldn't you? Didn't you learn this story?"

[@DocMicrowave]

Ironwood did show much "Love" to RWBY and company. He helped them. Disregarded any past transgressions, Gave them a place to stay, support systems, equipment, training, included them in his inner circle planning (which they actually approved.) He listened to and took their counsel. Even acted on it. Seemingly implicitly trusting them. What he got in return was disdain, betrayal, back stabbing, insubordination, lies. The young faunus in the fairy tale did none of that. Despite the king seemingly on the edge of falling off, she showed him compassion and understanding. And he reciprocated by coming back to his senses. (Do you actually think that King wouldn't have sunken to a similarly dark place if it wasn't for an understanding and supportive hand up?) Ironwood was on the edge, trying to do the best he could to protect his kingdom and now the world. Trying to make the best decisions as a military man given the information he had and facts he was denied. Especially without Oz's guidance. He was looking at the bigger picture. He was no where near perfect. But all he needed was some trust and guidance. And no, he was never portrayed as racist to the faunus as some hold. There was even a faunus on his most trusted elite guard. RWBY, instead of pouring water on that smoldering flame, poured gasoline instead. Then turned around surprised when he gets pushed over that edge by people he implicitly trusted. The narrative pushed was that he was always a bad guy, good thing they didn't trust him from the start. As if that justified anything. As you can see. I did learn from this story. Ironwood's turn to the dark side was very artificial and forced. He was written into a box with no way out because that's what the plot called for. A new big bad so they can sideline Salem. (Jen Taylor must be quite expensive to contract for VA..) He had it far worse than this king. But there are enough similarities to see that RWBY could/should have acted differently with Ironwood. The outcome could have been far better than it is now. Mantle and Atlas destroyed. Probably hundreds dead, many many more displaced into hostile lands, and both relics in Salem's hands. Everything Ironwood was trying to prevent. It's funny, in the fairy tale the King is (somehow) deceived by a very shady looking character. For someone depicted as so wise, he sure wasn't in that situation. But he was able to be salvaged. In Ironwood case, he was deceived by people he most trusted. Sank into utter darkness as a cartoon villain destined to die a horrible death. Totally irredeemable. If Ironwood was truly evil from the get go (as some in the fandom claim he was from V2) He would have NEVER have trusted RWBY. Would have thrown them in a jail for putting Argus in danger, destroying government property, stealing an Airship, Violating Atlas airspace during a time of high alert, etc. etc. Or just had them executed on the streets when caught, Councilman Sleet style, as probable enemy agents sneaking into the City. V8 was a continuation of his downward slide. Nothing could be done about that now. The deed was done. There was no turning back for him except to get worse. Now newly justified by CRWBY revealing his semblance after-the-fact in a pod cast. (Not in-show.) We obviously see it in different ways, which is fine.

[@triggerfairy4070]

Granted no one offered Ironwood love, unlike the faunus chick to the king.

[@DocMicrowave]

@@triggerfairy4070 Exactly. King apparently was starting to head down the same hole Ironwood did if it wasn't for the faunus chick and her approach to the situation. If only Ironwood got the same treatment. But the girls had to be the ones to shine as matrons of good and righteousness. Not Ironwood.

[@ScarletCandlelight]

You know kings and queens answere questions and approving weddings/new kids/housing/new development of farmers. Think of it as the people are workers, the leader is a boss, the kingdom is a company.

[@randomfandom3866]

I've actually been thinking about something after watching this again, the crown in the fairy tale is represented as knowledge. But isn't the lamp the relic of knowledge and the crown the relic of choice? I don't feel like this actually explained what the crown is supposed to do and part of me thinks they forgot that the crown was choice and not knowledge. Does the crown glimpse into the future as like, a warning for what choices need to be made or avoided? I have no idea. If I'm thinking about it wrong can someone explain it to me because I'm really confused now XD

[@kanden27]

You can see, very closely, where Critter just momentarily loses it, but then comes back to us at 22:15

[@redhead_bebs]

22:35 I was not expecting you to say this... I mean it was hilarious, but DANG!

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

“Every story told in the show sans the girl who fell through the world has been plot relevant.” …sooooooooo, about that…