RWBY Fairy Tales: The Infinite Man - Fairy Tales of Remnant #8

[@TheSkyrider27]

"Good intention do not always have good results we are all fallible". Truer words have never been spoken and that is a bit of wisdom that we should take to heart.

[@painteddaisy9861]

Great now I feel even worse for Oz. I can’t blame him for hiding so much from others, no matter how long he’s known them. He really can’t be blamed for the trust issues he has, no matter how much people want to paint him as a villain. He’s doing his best with the little trust he has left in people.

[@jadenramos4030]

Painted Daisy The funny thing is. There’s a character who is everything people claim Ozpin is, and he’s the one fans defend so much... It’s James Making your students soldiers and making them blindly loyal to you and willing to throw there lives away? That’s how he runs Atlas academy, is willing to pull shady actions and throw away people’s lives as a ‘sacrifice?’ “Few city blocks” Is just like Salem in a lot of ways? Oscar explicitly points out how he’s just as dangerous now

[@didsva]

Oz have had trust issues ever since his second life. So he has pretty much always had trust issues so saying that it’s something new(ish) is kinda BS. I mean he hide the truth from the love of his life the woman that he returned from the dead for Christ sake🙄

[@TheAngelofFate17]

@@didsva ​ he hid the truth in the beginning but then he told her the whole truth afterwards because he wanted to trust her and what did she do in return? Disregarded everything he said and instead said that they could become the new gods of this world and destroy those of which whom would deny them, effectively choosing her own selfish motives over humanity’s and then she killed him when he wanted to leave when he realized she was beyond reason and tried to take his daughters somewhere safe. He told the truth once and it got him killed. So he keeps everyone at arms lengths not only because he doesn’t give out his trust so easily but because he’s been betrayed before, by Salem and by others that were suppose to be his friends. Not only that but it’s also because he’s believe it’s better to keep people a certain distance away from him cause whenever someone does try to breech his walls they either get hurt or worse. The infinite man is a perfect way to show all this. It’s literally Oz telling us that he’s just this guy with severe PTSD, trust issues and is just a mess of guilt.

[@didsva]

@@TheAngelofFate17 Well yeah he told her after several years when they already had give birth to a large family. And Salem did get so angry because the man she trusted the most and had even started a family with was lying with working for the old gods. You know the same gods who did commit a big genocide just to teach her a lesson. Which caused her to be alone for thousands of years. Humans are social creatures so what do you think thousands of years in isolation would do to someone's psyche? Also yeah Ozma did try to disappear with his daughter, instead of you know try to be a loving and understanding partner. So I think that it was a pretty stupid and selfish decision of Ozma to instead try to flee from his responsibilities. Because when he bought his daughter it made Salem go into a mindless furry. Because she didn't wanna be left alone again that could have given her PTSD thinking about that. Which made her attack Ozma then seeing how her fight killed her own family she did fully succumb to her Grimm part. Which did affect her mentally which she most likely have tried to keep under control when she was with her family.

[@TheAngelofFate17]

@@didsva he didn’t flee from his responsibilities, he ran because he wanted to get his daughters somewhere safe and he believed Salem was beyond reasoning. It’s fine if you think Ozma is a flawed character cause he’s meant to be flawed seeing as he’s human but Salem made her own choices. Oz makes mistakes, grows and changed meanwhile Salem stays exactly the same cause she doesn’t want to change. She was gone even before her and Ozma met and had their daughters. “The hearts of man are easily swayed” Salem at her core was always like this, her selfishness was buried there even before she lost Ozma, throwing herself into the pool of Darkness didn’t corrupt her, it brought out the personality she already had, the one Oz never saw until it was too late. Even when he was Ozma is canon that he fought for justice and kindness. At Oz’s core center he is a good person, and at Salem’s core she is not. She’s the villain for a reason and sometimes those reasons don’t always have to be excused.

[@MaxusFox23]

I guess it didn't dawn on me until this fairytale: How many people have died wishing for their actions to be meaningful and carry on some sort of legacy? Yeah, a lot. But dead people will always be ignorant in the end, since they'll never get to see what happens afterwards, whether good or bad... except for Oz. Oz truly cannot die in blissful ignorance nor with hope in his heart... because he'll always come back to see the true outcome of his actions. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions", as they say... except it'll never be a one-time trip for Oz. Seriously, how he hasn't gone insane already is truly beyond me...

[@Nitram4392]

If I remeber Jins visons he indeed went sort of insane but I think he grounds himself by interacting with the soul of the person he is paired with.

[@Diabeanie]

Maybe he went so insane that he became sane again

[@quinintheclouds]

imagine pyrrha having to see that beacon fell even after her death...

[@arandomguywithastrawhat]

@@Diabeanie yeah, like Professor Paradox

[@muddybootknight6319]

While I cannot 100% condone everything he has done have always felt Ozpin has gotten a raw deal with people accusing him of being a “bad guy” or at worse incompetent but he is rather a tragic character of his experiences, when you have been betrayed by people close to you (let alone the probably multiple times he has been) it makes you somewhat jaded as well as closed off from people. Course people will make the excuse “you should just open up and let people in, you can trust me”, but when you have heard that very same line from people before and it never turns out good you tend to not believe anyone anymore.

[@midknight1782]

@MuddyBootKnight seriously that is so true. I’m amazed that ozpin have any trust at all

[@hyde6859]

If you think about it Ozpin or Ozma has literally gone through the 5 stages of Grief through most of his lifetime.

[@Wolfeson28]

It is a raw deal for Ozpin, but it's a raw deal for those who feel betrayed by his reluctance to fully trust them as well. From the perspective of those people, they're risking their lives for what they believe Ozpin stands for, only to find that he won't trust them with the full story. We've gotten that perspective from people like Raven, and more recently Ruby and Yang. Here, we get a lot more insight into Ozpin's perspective to understand its validity in a way that we haven't fully been able to see in the show. There isn't any clear right or wrong here; both Ozpin and those who have fought for him have valid reasons for feeling the way that they do, and they will need to reconcile those perspectives.

[@MelvinDRosaria]

I like that Ozpin also took the original maidens wisedom to heart. Self reflection on to see what kind of man (or woman) you will be. 2:59 *Knowledge.* The actions you take, to either flee or stand your ground and fight. 9:15 *Destruction.* To spread the joy and the drive to take actions to others. 3:14 *Creation.* And to sence of duty to take action because you are able, no matter for who. Not to gain something from it, but just because you can. 2:00 *Choice.* The principles of the four relics and what every single person and faunus is based on.

[@juliavivanco6019]

Bro you're right

[@iceluvndiva21]

And people say he's a terrible person. HA!

[@islandman9494]

Ozpin is doing the best he can, but sometimes it isn't enough. He needs people, but he is afraid of what will happen if they know the whole truth. Giving them just little details is enough in his opinion or else there could be another Lionheart, a Raven or, well, Ironwood for that matter. He has been through a lot, and yet he still has the willpower to keep on going. The God of Light has certainly picked the right person for the job.

[@Wolfeson28]

Oddly enough, Ozpin himself would probably disagree that the God of Light chose the right person, but in a way that's the surest proof that he is the right person (if there is such a thing). It's similar to in Lord of the Rings, when Gandalf initially doesn't want to go to Middle Earth as one of the five Istari because he's afraid of Sauron. In response, Manwe (sort of Middle Earth's version of Zeus) says that is all the more reason why Gandalf must go, and why he's one of the right people to be chosen. In the end, Gandalf is the only one of the Istari who stays true to their mission of helping the people of Middle Earth oppose Sauron, in part because his fear and humility allow him to empathize with the peoples of Middle Earth in a way that the others can't.

[@Ramsey276one]

And fave him the right deadline as well.... OUCH

[@Shiloh_has_a_bird]

Is it sad that I know these fairy tales better than earth ones? These are just so much more interesting!

[@CinderingCoyote]

Well I think earth has one for f the best stories, I don't remember the entire story but I know the name: The Devil's Hide. It basically a revenge story that go a little extreme.

[@damiondunn4663]

Interesting maybe. Good enough to be told over the course of human history absolutely not

[@erickamakeeaina1649]

@@damiondunn4663 Persoanlly I don't think they are any better or worse then real life fairy tales, and think they'd have a simmular impact if real

[@damiondunn4663]

@@erickamakeeaina1649 neat opinion glad I asked for it......oh wait.

[@Sanya6496]

I can see the bind Ozma was in. If he ended up winning and killing his opponent, he would have betrayed his own ideals in front of his followers and thus the circle would have been shattered. But, if he lost and decided to die as he did he ended up putting too much trust in the good of others and when the bandits started killing and looting and burning as if their leader had never fought Ozma the circle was shattered. He was stuck between two equally terrible choices and personally I think he chose the best one. I think the reason Ozpin's huntmen a number of which is now fighting his war is because he chose to die and hold to his belief that people can be inherently good. They can work together and come up with plans to protect the world from harm even if the common man does not trust their protectors;even if they do not appreciate what the huntsmen do and why Ozpin makes teamwork an essential part of these protectors training, it is ultimately his belief in mankind that will deliver the ultimate victory. Ultimately the suffering he went through will end because he never lost sight of what kept him human.

[@kawaiicamybee]

I feel so bad for Ozpin, he had such a rough time. I really like his character! I hope he gets a happy end by the end of the show😭❤️

[@remingtonwright6796]

But what has he done to deserve it? He's only a man..... And not even a very good one

[@kawaiicamybee]

Remington Wright I meannnnn he did get cursed for no reason

[@chrisackerman2452]

@@kawaiicamybee There is a reason for it. However it is not a very good one.

[@kawaiicamybee]

Chris Ackerman yeahhhh it’s a stupid reason and now the gods of darkness and light doomed the world and punished someone for the actions of their wife😔

[@hyde6859]

@@chrisackerman2452 yeah, that the one thing I still don't understand. Why him of all people does the God of Light bring back to second humanity, when the original humanity was destroyed because of Salem wanting to bring him back?

[@Gameguy-gk8lx]

This story made me so sad. Poor Oz.

[@kingraplhmativo5178]

Unlike Loinheart, Raven, and Ironwood. I think Summer Rose is the only person who stay by Ozpin's side. No wonder, she went to her "secret mission" without knowing anyone.

[@selectivelysocial7117]

I don't know if it's a typo or not, but I'm going to call Lionheart Loinheart just for the fun of it.

[@alanmoreno-solorio8161]

What "secret mission" without knowing anyone?

[@alexj5937]

@@alanmoreno-solorio8161 the mission that supposedly got her killed. The one that Qrow called a "summer secret"- the one the even Ozpin knew nothing about.

[@sato-lr2ln]

Honestly I feel like oz feels so bad watching the protagonists make their decisions, knowing as much as he does. He knows the most of any living person and yet he still hides himself. Also, i hope you do the shallow sea soon. I loved that one

[@UnitatoEpic]

This fairy tale is exactly why I believe Ozpin is not evil like people think he is. He has to walk such a fine line between believing in the good of humanity and protecting the people while also knowing that if he gets too comfortable he will be betrayed by the people he believes in and wishes to defend. He really is doing his best to help the people of Remnant.

[@Wolfeson28]

In many ways, the Circle is the first attempt (that we know of) at starting something like a huntsman academy. Clearly Ozpin recognized how much good they accomplished, and the need to train people for the role that current Remnant would call a Huntsman or Huntress, and it's interesting to compare this to how Ozpin started up the current academies. In this story, Ozpin refused to unleash his full power, and trusted the word of others that they would leave his students alone after defeating him. Clearly, he learned not to make that mistake again, since as the Warrior King of Vale, he did unleash his full power (including at least two relics) to end the Great War and ensure the beginning of a new order. He still refused to take supreme power over the entire world, but he did use the opportunity to direct the formation of the four current academies, and that lingering memory of his power ensured that the new academy system would not be challenged before it was firmly entrenched. Once he died and later reincarnated as the Ozpin we knew, he continued to be a major part of the academy system, but only ever revealed his true identity to a select few, so that he could hopefully avoid putting the same target on his back and his students' backs that he did in the story.

[@becca2710]

Well put! Do you think since he entrusted the information with team STRQ, there's a connection as to why? Raven sorta explains that but other than giving her and Qrow the gift to see more, we don't know why he did that and how soon after Summer ran off to face Salem.

[@VFenris6184]

A clan of warriors....who wanted to fight a god....then when the man lost followed up to pillage and slaughter the rest of the circle...why am I getting a feeling we just heard the origin of the Branwen tribe....?

[@cailemkostiuk377]

We already had enough reason to hate her morality and her tribe.

[@worldweaver2691]

oh gawd i didn't even think about that

[@xLotusAngel626x]

Damn I can see that being true...

[@gameinsane4718]

The end can’t justify the means, if hell is paved with good intentions. -Oz (probably)

[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

When it comes to fairytales, Ozpin is basically the Grim Brothers change my mind.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

The Brothers Grimm are the Brother Gods, hence why Grimm are fully called "The Creatures of Grimm".

[@kennethherrera588]

Now I see why he underestimated his allies on team RWBY..... disappointement as well loss of their hope hurts to much no matter the century(oz is a strong willed man, even when his not a good one) and support his 'FEAR' speech even further then I would ever expected!!!!

[@johnsmith5922]

All I want to say here is that I click in the vid and what Ad does it give me? The University of Phoenix. XD

[@nein9420]

Imagine if he lost on purpose and thats the reason beacon fell Oh wait

[@hyde6859]

Ozpin reminds me of the The Doctor from Doctor who. Both are immortal, both reincarnation, both are the last of they kind (Humanity with magic), both have made many mistake, both have the will to do what is right, both have loved and lost people, & both have seen and gone through some shit in their lives.

[@kawaiicamybee]

Awesome! Another Fairy tale update!!! Also hi everyone!❤️❤️ hope you’re all doing well😄

[@Salemwaaa]

Oz is like Korra in terms of resilience no matter how much they suffered, no matter how many L’s they took and how whenever their beliefs were wavering they stood firm and held on eventually getting back up (We put our trust in others blindly and once your trust is put in people they can easily take advantage of you and that can end up closing off your heart)

[@hyde6859]

This fairytales has helped confirmed how many lives ozma has lived through out Remnant. *******SPOILERS BELOW ****** So far in the book(the fairytales of remnant) We see 5 lives of Ozma *The infinite man who in the story comes backs 3 times *The Hunter from The Hunter's children since it implies that the hunter was one of Ozma lives *The Wizard from the Maidens of the season. In the show so far Ozma *Pretend God *Hermit *Drunker *I.T. Oz *Inquisitor(one who found the lamp) *King of Vale(since it's implied that he founded the Huntsman Acadamies & when Qrow said "when Ozpin predecessor founded the school) *One more live between K.O.V and Ozpin(since we don't how old the king was when he died.) *Ozpin *Oscar With this information in mind ,Ozma has 13 or 14 lives that he lived through out remnant.

[@wuttatota148]

Possibly more because when Ozpin was talking about the maidens with the team he said " *Centuries ago* I sacrificed a great deal of magic to four young women who I hoped would use my gift for good." Also in volume 5 he said "For *thousand of years* I have walked the surface of Remnant living, dying, and reincarnating in a like-minded soul" Ozpin is hella old

[@naashkaadilts3875]

I don't think I've heard ozpin talk I'll of someone. Not gravely. Always striving to help others improve. With what short time THEY have. My favorite character by far. Would buy his merch in a second. Well done with the story telling

[@lockskelington314]

Phoenix/Night: Ospin has so much mental Torment Natsuki Subaru: Hold my Beer!

[@worldweaver2691]

as a fan of both series. they would sense their mututal suffering and be pen pals. across dimensions. ...fuckit may write that story

[@ramen4047]

This one hit deep with me and I'm not entirely sure why

[@darylsdesigns6679]

So the warrior who fought one of Ozpin’s incarnations wielded dual blades infused with Gravity and Lightning Dust. One of my ocs has similar weaponry, but uses Wind and Fire Dust

[@YoOrangethatdude]

Is anyone else sad now 😐

[@midknight1782]

I made this comment as a response to another comment here but I wanted to add more into it I want to say that regardless of what you think of ozpin, it is amazing that he is not only able to have trust in people however (little that may be) but also able to believe that their good in human and humanity at all. If I had to deal with 1/4 of what ozpin had to deal with I can tell you rn I would not believe that human have any good in them and I definitely wouldn’t trust anyone. I also think anyone that wanna respond to this by saying that they would still believe in the good in humanity and trust people if they were in ozpin shoes is either lying or trying to fool themselves into believing that. I guess the only reason why why ozpin have any faith in human is because he met people like crow that show him human can change from a dark path and Ruby that show he not the only one that is purely good.

[@hyde6859]

This tale and the Hunter's Children gives us the early ideas or ground work of the Huntsman Acadamies.

[@midknight1782]

Where the tissues, I’m not crying your crying

[@SomewhereFireworks]

I love this, whenever I find a world with this level of world building I always enjoy bits of lore

[@grantlangkamp1909]

Great story and great meaning but I can't let the fact that he died to a warrior go unnoticed

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

I don't quite understand the importance of that fact.

[@grantlangkamp1909]

@@nemasisdemarini8339 because he's the second strongest person in remnant history. Although he didn't use magic,held back and accepted his death it still just doesn't seem right

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

@@grantlangkamp1909 I mean, I know that, but the way you phrased it made it seem like the fact that it was a warrior who killed him, was of some more importance than simply the fact that someone was able to best and kill Ozpin before his magic seemed to weaken significantly.

[@jonathonsirlord8251]

All of these are pointing that Ozpin and Salem Aren't to Blame but the Gods are at Fault for Everything

[@KikiYushima]

It was pretty obvious in the V6 exposition episode....?

[@vi5133]

I think Ozpin’s pretty blameless, but Salem has some blame to take. Yeah the Gods are assholes who punished too severely, but she tried to rally all of remnant to kill them, which is ultimately what led her to most despair and anger

[@jonathonsirlord8251]

@@vi5133 Because they didn't bring back ozpin because Light saying "it'll unbalance life & death" how the F2ck would that happen it's one person Salem wanted to bring back she wasn't asking to bring back others just one person & light could've & should've stopped dark from wiping the 1st era of man but he didn't you know how long i've been saying Light's the older brother Dark's the Youngest it's the oldest job to not let youngest hurt themselves or others so i'm still on Team salem to get payback on the Gods & team Rwby & co will do the same you don't actually believe the gods will give Remnant a second chance or remove O&S curses or give back magic.

[@justsomeguyanimations]

These kinds of stories are honestly better than some if the stories in the show

[@twinodoom]

Ozpin is someone who has and continued to make mistakes. He was the very first person in the show to admit that he has made more mistakes than any man, woman, or child on the face of Remnant, contrary to Professor Port's faith leading him to say otherwise. He has continued do everything he can to try to learn from and atone for his mistakes and failures, even when it isn't enough. Despite his immortality and powers, he is just one man with limitations and weaknesses, just like everyone else.

[@dragonraiderknight4625]

It’s always hard to know whom to trust. Experience could say to trust or not to trust. You just never know if it’s the right move.

[@scarletthall8767]

I saw someone on Tumblr suggest that the women with a missing arm and eye at the end that was once the little girl is an illusion to Cinder!!!!! 🤯

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

You're such a good story teller.

[@jonathonsirlord8251]

11:39 *Hearing Trust is the most Powerful Force* Me: 🎼TRUST LOVE🎼🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@rhueoflandorin]

i knew in vol2 that oz was immortal. mostly because of what glenda said to Ironwood. (also the "clockwork motif" and his general way of "ageless" speach as early as Vol1....and the fact that the over-arching narration/conversation between salem and ozpin spoke volumes about a war fought for all humanity over the course of an eternity. True, i originally thought ozpin was a demi-god and the other voice was like a Hades, but....wasn't far off. Salem is very much like hades.)

[@shinigami2link]

The thing that strikes me about these tales is that they all feel like they could be true. This is only exacerbated by the inclusion of this story, The Girl in the Tower, and The Witch in the Woods, which contain things that have actually been seen. This blurs the line of story and reality. I would love to see a second collection of stories, with the same level of thought put into it.

[@killerbee1974]

the funny part is when you reach cinder, that walk back was funny

[@neodontknow1353]

Ugh I love Ozpin I wish we could’ve had him longer

[@lilrockstar8170]

I was thinking: What if Salem wants to end the world because if the world was an empty void, it would feel like she was dead? It’s a selfish wish, but a tragic one.

[@blueblade6174]

Would things have been at their best if the Infinte Man was a little bit more like Salem? Balancing in a bit of strictness and intolerance to discourage any intentions of attacking the Circle?

[@skylaabrams3409]

Oh crow mentioned something about the circle

[@jessieveden954]

This hit me hard

[@cailemkostiuk377]

As Phoenix read the story I assumed they would have let the circle go as well. After all, there was really no benefit to killing them all.

[@HighPriestFuneral]

I have a feeling that this group was sent by Salem, especially with "Your very existence makes you a target" along with the slaughter of the people.

[@worldweaver2691]

gotta comment this now but nice Soul Eater t-shirt. edit: well I figured out how to do a 'Ozma rules in the open' au now. The Warriors weren't jerks/they become new members once Ozma finds the circle again.

[@Diabeanie]

I swear I am NOT crying, I'm NOT CRYING DAMMIT 😭😭😭😭😭

[@joeyperticone361]

Sometimes I really wish this show dirk the own my life.

[@jackalhanze5986]

After that story i don't know if i like or hate him

[@wuttatota148]

Literally there's no reason to hate him. He's trying his best.

[@PhoenixFire-pt3wc]

I love his character. He’s made a lot of mistakes, but he’s also doing his best. He’s fought war after war, battle after battle, and he still goes on.

[@wuttatota148]

@@PhoenixFire-pt3wc If that were me I would've given up somewhere halfway. I respect the man for still trying after so many centuries.

[@PhoenixFire-pt3wc]

Wuttatota Agreed.

[@GreyArwen]

In the future would u be able to make a video about all the semblance covered in this book. The hunters children, the man who starred at the sun, etc

[@lexthemystic3541]

Anyone else noticed the lighting changes? Phoenix has been looking less orange lately!

[@angeldaniel6943]

So beautiful and do more please

[@leonhart6957]

Oz is a G!

[@kenvaellecam8328]

Huh. A warrior that actually beat Ozpin. That's impressive even if it seems mostly due to their powerful weapon. It also seems that Ozpin at that point in time didn't have much magic as if he was at his peak he may as well be a god to the people of Renmant.

[@wuttatota148]

It's said that Ozpin made the choice to be killed instead of fighting and causing more casualties. The warriors promised to leave his students/people alone if they defeat him and he trusted them. That's why he barely trusts people anymore. Impressive that someone actually matched a magical being using only dust though.

[@kenvaellecam8328]

@@wuttatota148 Indeed, though the tale reads as if this happens after he had already split his power considering that a fully realized Maiden is basically unstoppable by normal people and Ozpin would originally have 4 times that power. His fight with the warrior makes more sense if we assume he was limit to Ozpin level abilities. Still though that dust weapon is OP. Gravity blade to disarm and/or give yourself an opening, Lighting blade to punish your opponent from blocking your attacks, and if you are feeling corned just combine the two and then your opponent is a sitting duck.

[@skylaabrams3409]

Does it relate with the circles at each school Beacon had 4 Haven had 3

[@remingtonwright6796]

Is this why RWBY teams are always teams of four?

[@cailemkostiuk377]

I think I missed something, what in the story makes you say that? I think Monty just liked the number four. Aside from it just being a good number able to make a square, four main cities and four of everything that comes with them (School, tower), four maidens, four in a team, four relics.

[@remingtonwright6796]

@@cailemkostiuk377 four maidens, four seasons, four original followers, four years having passed. If we take ourselves out of the story, then perhaps Monty just likes the number. If we immerse ourselves, however, it prevails constantly

[@hyde6859]

The idea for the four teams is found in one of the fairytales called The Hunter's children.

[@grantlangkamp1909]

Nvm he accepted his death

[@randypelow455]

Wait is this the true start of huntsman's in remnant?

[@PhoenixNight]

I think this was where the idea for the Huntsman Academies started so yes it could be the start of Huntsman in general

[@hyde6859]

So if idea of Huntsman came from this tale and the Hunter's Child, which also gives us the idea of Unity through strength. Then where did Silver-eyed warriors come from since Qrow stated that they exist before huntsman & kingdom(Volume 3 chapter 12). It always gave me the idea that Silver-eyed warriors were the Original Huntsman of Remnant before Humanity could deal with the grimm. But now this fairytale tells us that the person who started training people to fight back against the Grimm(Using Semblance & Aura )was Ozma or Salem(since she trained that warrior to kill him and destroy the circle).

[@randypelow455]

@@hyde6859 well he never said what the eye color of the fighter that killed Oz had. Plus This was before huntmans. And remember the silver eye warriors had to most likely be trained before fighting some of the tougher grimm.

[@ivanhunter6492]

Ozpin is Human. This makes me sad

[@eresternight319]

❤

[@dustinelias7840]

Was this meantioning hazel’s sister due to the dust uses and the women who met yang in the comics? Also when is vol 5 music results

[@cailemkostiuk377]

I think all of this is way earlier in history than Hazel and his sister. I could be wrong though, but this sounds like pre-great war Ozpin. I don't know how far before, but maybe even before he got his cane, which was implied to be early on. I suspect that he had a few unshown reincarnations before the cane, since he could have spent lifetimes thinking of the perfect weapon. One non deadly, with secrets. Or do you mean any of the stories in general? Maybe one of the next Phoenix tells us about will have Hazel's sister. We would have to wait to find out.

[@dustinelias7840]

@@cailemkostiuk377 first one

[@cailemkostiuk377]

@@dustinelias7840 Do you mean "The warrior in the Woods" kzbin.info/www/bejne/oZenlH2Xe9mcnsk ?

[@kyrorogers1395]

Cinder will be redeemed in volume 8, 9, or 10. And who is Theodore?

[@esecretlangel9130]

If after the fall is cannon, then Theodore is the headmaster of vacuo

[@casahirem2115]

Are you out order? Where are stories 1-5,7,

[@kawaiicamybee]

Phoenix doesn’t go in order😄

[@Eliphaschoas]

What is this order you speak of?

[@kawaiicamybee]

Eliphaschaos there is no order in Ba Sing Se