RX(urien) vs Pierrot(remy)

[@CaptainLily742]

The people calling Pierrot cheap for "spamming" Light of Virtue make me laugh. As a Remy user myself, I can confirm that what Pierrot does here is really damn hard. Gatling off charge projectiles like that is something I can rarely pull off, and even then I can only fire off maybe 3-4 at a time before screwing up.

[@xRuinedFaithx]

That Remy was absolutely amazing, I've never seen a good one before... And I expected RX to destroy him ~ RX is one of the best players I've seen, amazing match on both sides.

[@crashl117]

Best remy player I ve ever seen. Amazing charge partitioning by Pierrot! No one runs rx's urien this close, especially with such lower tier character!

[@BanditXVIII]

I haven't seen someone make a 5-5 LOOK like a 5-5 in the face of RX, and here this Remy is being a boss. Keeping RX in space check, then at 1:36 he partitions the "Wall of Virtue" to keep RX pressured similar to the Aegis with the mix up risk of an EX LoV killing a parry or putting the timing of said parry at risk. RX is a beast, and Pierrot must have played him many times over, because it looked like these two had a lot of respect for each other in the sense of their play-styles and the way their characters are handled by one another, I love watching this.

[@lxvxiex]

Charge buffering not partition

[@rustyshackleford9946]

Damn, Sonic-F**kin-Boom! Lol. Even Guile would be jealous of that projectile action.

[@AegisNeglector]

my pleasure. anything to help folks improve a bit here or there. to back-track a little, i think (feel free to correct me if i'm wrong) even though the A. Reflector won't reflect the Denjin it will nullify a few hits, making less to parry or get hit by. still, you're probably better off just jumping it or parrying it in full. by the way, all: if you ever get the chance to play in Japan take it! i'm in Shinjuku right now and these guys are phenomenal!!!! talk about a crash-course...whew!

[@CodyRockLee13]

I personally love watching Pierrot's Remy. I really like how he instantly pulled out a LOV machinegun once RX was in the corner. I really need to work on doing that... that's the machinegun's best use is when Remy's half-screen and the opponent's in a corner. It's pretty hard to escape and if you manage, you risk taking anti-air damage. It's pretty nice. :D

[@kog_txt]

Nasty Remy. Pierrot zoned the shit out of RX in the first round. RX came back though, definitely down to the wire. Extremely impressive play by both players.

[@FableCountry]

holy crap. did NOT think RX would be able to pull through. very nice aggressive push at the end

[@AishiYoutube]

It's amazing that you can learn so much from a video back in 2006. This just shows how good these guys are for their time. Nowadays, Pierrot is considered one of the best Remys and RX is raping with more midscreen unblockables. I wish they would play once more to entertain and give us another youtube video to learn off of for the next two years.

[@AcidGlow]

RX needs the super meter for corner pressures.

[@GenLiu]

You're probably right but that the way to play Remy...He played his match very well and it was incredibly cool to do a so close match against a player like RX...

[@BotchWatchTV]

I've only been playing thirdstrike for a year know, but I already have felt the pain of this match up, I couldn't imagine what a top level Remy could do...I have much to learn from these RX videos

[@Nick_Bot]

My bad. I looked back, and I saw the second one come out while the first one was still under Urien. I guess the game stopped registering it the second it passed under him.

[@AegisNeglector]

holy shit!! you guys have a KoF player in your group?! hells yeah! huge fan, but can't play my way out of a paper bag...one of the guys that i met in an arcade though plays in Tougeki for KoF. i had the pleasure of seeing him in action...dude, it's just...well, it's not right. if i can get some footage, i'll post it when i get home on the 21st.

[@strikerk]

@MechaCrabtree Anytime you push a button, you control space~ all fireballs are in street fighter, is a way to control space. To dictate a specific space, is zoning. Dhalsim and Necro for instance use their long arms, much like other characters use fireballs. This is why Dhalsim has a slow fireball, not a fast one. Not to spam~ but to zone. To control space.

[@crashl117]

I am a Remy player in 3s, well learning anyway. The charge partitioning displayed here is truely incredible. Been practicing loads and still can't get it anywhere near as smooth. As to the Twelve player that beat RX, his name is Yamazaki, and yes, he's the best! There is also a video I think all 3s fans should see. It's Chinta's Ken beating RX's Urien AND KO's Yun back-to-back!

[@Chaldean4life91]

@WinnGale yes but there were also people who played mid teir to low teirs like Ruu Namajinn and Vanao (Ryu) RX Pierrot Senaka (Urien) K.O Roshihikari (Yang) etc... no ive never been to any 3rd strike tournaments but io have played the game before and i have watched almost every 3rd strike match there (tournament and casual wise). you wont see people using Hakan or Sakura or Blanka in SF4 tournaments.maybe 1 but thats it.

[@jsetvideo]

rumor is that they're bringing 2 characters of each SF series. Makoto and Dudley seem to be the community's favorites.

[@Antics27]

You really have to exercise a good amount of patience when playing against a good Remy.

[@akhan07]

the big difference is that in sf3 has parrying, which makes projectiles much less effective. No parrying and no airblocking in sfiv makes projectiles much more effective

[@Nick_Bot]

A high LoV and a low LoV are treated as two different projectiles, you see, so you're allowed to have both out at once. The trick is to charge back, then tap forward and back+attack to start charging the second one while you launch the first disk.

[@toemaetoe]

Wow didnt know Remy can be such an effective turtle. Close match.

[@Sho12345]

RX YOU ARE THE KING OF COMEBACKS!!!!

[@FoofyTV_]

0:58 I wasn't aware that you could throw another disk before the first exits the screen o.O Is there a trick to partitioning his disks? I charge back, fire the first while pushing forward, and go back instantly and do the next. Is there more to it? Or does it have something to do with the timing of the initial charge?

[@Gankula]

Wrong, High LoV and Low LoV are the same projectile. He never has 2 on the field, the second one is either parried or hits the invisible wall behind the target, Pierrot throws out another one. He's just so damn good at the timing you'd swear there were 2 LoV out on the field.

[@SpoonOfHawaii]

RX and Pierrot's charge buffering/partitioning = godly

[@Scuddi]

You can fadc in SFIV to get around projectiles. There is just SOME risk involved where as in 3 I guess it is more just a way to slow someone down and it still does enable zoning. It isn't like you keep moving forward when you parry. It stops you in place and the pressure and psychological aspect still exists. Parrying is interesting, so is FADC. Neither 'ruins' SF, just different ways of redesigning the basic formula.

[@ZhangHe2369]

ya, the charge partitioning (dashing between charges) and buffering is amazing by Pierrot.

[@Lancevfx]

Did you see him rip off his pants with his sheer awesomeness? Insane..

[@PaulHindt]

Damn, I thought for sure that Remy was gonna pull through. Goddamn nailbiter of a match.

[@MasterT505DX]

@yahoo1o1 Not only is Remy's fireball much less threatening than Sagat's in either SF4 or SF2, Remy doesn't have all the other tools Sagat has that makes him so ridiculous. 3S also has parrying.

[@Estmaraver]

Damn, what an awesome match. Nice comeback from Urien, but Pierrot played better in my opinion up till the end, his zoning game was brutal.

[@youngbrabbit]

that had to be the closest matach in the history of every. kudos to RX and pierrot, whom i never heard of before today, but wil definitely check more vids. his zoning was nutss

[@pruegel79]

a match I can see hundred times... In the end it was the almighty Aegis who save RX's butt.

[@smor.synchros]

thank you! i like all sf games and i kinda hate it when ppl are like 3s over 4 or vice-versa..

[@jayjax229]

@derekmok it requires half of your super gauge to focus cancel a special move, so although OP in the right hands, saying that it has no penalty is obviously wrong, as even with a full meter, a character can only do it twice in a row, then they are totally drained.

[@AegisNeglector]

hell yeah, shinre! i spent today in Tachikawa, and i got some badass footage of my friends playing KoF 2002! as soon as i get back stateside, i'll compress it and post it. i'll send you a personal message when i get it figured out -- just make sure to watch for it in your mail box. peace, brother.

[@TheBlueMoosh]

@ColgateNacho Who doesn't benefit from canceling a move that would otherwise be punishable? FC to grab works for everyone as well, which can easily catch the opponent off guard. What characters are you thinking of? Certainly, FC is harder than simple parrying, so you may feel like a character can't make use of it when in reality you may simply not know how to.

[@TheBlueMoosh]

@derekmok Parrying doesn't cost half your super meter, which is the penalty of using a focus cancel. Focus canceling is also harder to do than simply pressing forward or down at the right time, so calling it "dumbed down" isn't accurate at all. Every character can take advantage of focus canceling, not just shotos. Everyone has a move that they can "just cancel with no penalty". Guile, for example, can cancel is flash kick.

[@Dflowen]

That was a cool match. Godamn, I was getting worried for the Urien player.

[@briscoe144]

im new to 3s so i dont know alot about the game and certain matchups, but that remy is amazing! best ive ever seen! especially against a character such as urien. very unlucky in the last round

[@Ghuy1221]

Have you ever done charge buffers and partitions? They're definitely harder to do than hadoukens and shoryukens. So I dont know what you're saying when you said it takes little to no skill.

[@Chaldean4life91]

this is what i loved about the 3rd strike scene as opposed to the SF4 scene (not bashing SF4 i like that too just no where near 3rd strike). people used to play with everyone from low teirs like Sean Elena Remy Q (Kuroda). these days SF4 is all about Ryu Ken Sagat and all top-teir characters.

[@xdeathwalkingterrorx]

And the mighty RX remains unvanquished!

[@Hereigns16]

That was an awsome remy player and he almost won! Impressive, wonder how he was chargeing so fast?

[@flareflareon]

dang, pierrot got RX that close to losing that last round. that was really good match :D

[@DarkswordSerathus]

its a combination of buffering & partitioning. yeah! LoV is done by buffering but you can only do the SPAMING with PARTITIONING. remy can only throw LoVs with 1 second point something intervals by partioning with the last LoV... the 1st 3 LoVs are buffered with 3 second charging time, but the 4th will take the PARTITION of 3rd LoVs charging time so you can throw it with 1 sec interval.

[@yanguria6912]

Yet, in my fighting game carreer I still have to understand why keepaway characters\defensive tactics are frowned upon.

[@burger87]

That Remy could breathe under water.

[@MattitudeSupporter]

Urien vs Remy. Good to see something that doesn't involve the Chun/Yun/Kun trio.

[@jankanpo]

That's how you play with Remy... He doesn't have anything else that keeps the opponent away while not leaving him completely open when he misses. It's the same idea as with playing Twelve.

[@akaisyaoran]

this may look like a boring match, but this is real high level game play

[@erenix]

it might look boring to you, but there is a great art in buffering that is going on, and breaking. It is not easy.

[@came2getbusy]

the PROPER way to play remy right here

[@ZhangHe2369]

Its helpful for retreating and advancing and still maintaining a charge. You don't "need" it, but its helps if your amazing with it (like Pierrot). I think he uses Urien now.

[@Gr8pezGaming]

yeah he definately is the best urien ive ever seen. if i ever meet him in real life, i may actually want to take a picture with him. some idiot thumbed you down, probably couldnt read english. i countered it with my thumbs up.

[@SuperiorHawke]

I have now decided to use Sagat's tigers approximately 100 times a match more now too! Not because it's so cheap and cool to spam, but also because it's tactical!

[@EvilRyuGuy]

Pierrot got really lucky at 00:53. That was a golden opportunity for RX.

[@kingpet]

ive seen some rushdown remy fights. it doesnt have to be a drawn out battle all the time.

[@derekmok]

Yes and no. Urien is extra-susceptible to those endless Lights of Virtue because of his big body, bad air-to-air, weak jump, and need to charge his moves. All of Urien's anti-airs need time and distance to execute, and Remy's super-low jump and strange air attacks make it hard for Urien to nail him. Chun-Li, Yun, Ken, Ryu or Oro wouldn't have to work nearly so hard, but Hugo, Urien, Alex and Necro would have problems.

[@kamwii]

Damn just when I see a good fight with Remy in it more remy please.

[@DinahoftheRailroad]

I LOVE REMY. I started using him cause he was a charger but his story is also very compelling. Also like how he's a Guile Sagat hybrid. SSF4 needs Charlie Karyn Remy Ibuki. IMO

[@crashl117]

Also should bear in mind that Pierrot doesn't usually play as defensive as this. It's just that remy has low health bar and rx's urien beasts way too hardcore

[@WinnGale]

@Chaldean4life91 I wanted to comment and say that I think you need to go to a 3rd Strike Tournament. If you do, don't be surprised when almost everyone is playing either Yun, Chun-li or Ken.

[@LagDotCom]

Keeping back RX is impressive enough for me.

[@Gamemaster8888]

You do realize though Urien used charge moves as well, not as much as Remy, but still, it makes for an interesting matchup. That being said, tier lists don't matter. The Remy player was skilled enough to make it close, and in the end that's all that matters now.

[@EldritchJean]

does tyrant reflector block special like shinku hadokem? (for future rfrence)

[@theoneandonlywil]

Yes! That was an evil kara throw... Looks like it was a standing roundhouse kara, not a standing strong one. I've never seen the standing strong kara throw with that kind of range, or any kara throw for that matter (with the possible exception of Akuma's)

[@Chaldean4life91]

Blonde Fighter 4, as in people who have only played Street Fighter 4 and dont know any other character besides Ken (Blonde hair guy). and yes i totally agree with what you said. Pierrot is a master Remy who gave the legendary RX a tough time. people here thinking "spamming discs" is what he was doing. ugh, theyre so annoying.

[@lostn65]

"Everyone has a preference." They do. And so many players prefer Chun Li for effectiveness. If you play to win, why not "prefer" a better character? Assuming equal practice time, it will increase your chances of winning. Unless preference > winning at all costs. And you know what, I agree.

[@MadDash84]

Wow, I wonder why I don't see more people using Remy in tourneys. He's like Guile and Sagat (both high tier characters) rolled into one, with a more defensive nature in his projectiles because they are charge moves. It seems he would be a good character :/

[@sirxmas]

Yeah, I was pretty confused when I saw him block RX's low forward and then start getting hit by Aegis.

[@GreenGearMood]

This is one video where I couldn't tell who was going to win just by looking at the the time left in the vid.

[@VZERO123]

Pierrot's remy is so sick man good game to both players

[@Kyokuji]

That's charge buffering not partitioning, and you do need to partition to do rapid fire LoVs with Remy.

[@Cr0no]

I might have to rethink about practicing with Remy, that was good.

[@mystuhmusic]

pierrot and his onion rings of doom are scary :O but RX continues to inspire me to continue using urien...

[@Ghuy1221]

Considering how good a player RX is, Pierrot did a really good job of playing him. Not letting him get any momentum and not getting rushed to the corner. Well played Remy...

[@FoofyTV_]

@berserkfootball That's how I feel too haha. Not to say I don't enjoy 4, but 3s got me INTO street fighter. I love the parry system, because you can get mad at yourself all you want, but there's always an escape, even if you have to be a god to Parry everything. With 4, it gets back to the ah damn I'm trapped and I can't really do anything about this chip damage I see coming a mile away...

[@Silks]

Totally. And yes, RX is a monster, if not the most skilled 3s player alive.

[@OrganOwner]

@Edgehead1132 True. That's why I don't like playing against turtle style characters. At least Remy's the only character that zones in this game.

[@novolic]

Yeh, that's true. But no character is meant to play "purely defensive." That was just the (logical) option Pierrot took. If you look at his other videos, he has amazing close-ups. If you want to see a more offensive Remy, check out Dagger-G

[@moonwhistle]

Inredible match. I love it.

[@URLWK]

It is very hard to use remy in a way that keeps you safe. This Remy player is pretty amazing. Remy has great potential, but hes so execution ridden that it really hurts. People will bash this and not understand all the truly difficult work that goes into breaking up charges, and then you gotta factor in that guys like Messatsu and RX are really scary competition.

[@Gankula]

@Meatballer no, that comment was a reply to another, I just didn't link it. Pierrot is a very respectable player. Loser.

[@DenizenofSBWR]

3s with its parry system favours the aggressive player. to close the distance parry and infilcit high damage with combo and super attacks.

[@youkube4308]

Classic fucking match. Two of the BEST players for their characters. Too bad that literally QUIT 3s =((((((((

[@TenchiHawkwing]

Just read YuenYun's comment, it's all about your style... certain characters just come naturally to some people and no ammount of practice can bridge the gap. Also, he's not playing cheaply... I'm not sure where you guys came up with that idea.

[@Axlebro]

@Edgehead1132 well some of us like playing as those characters. its fun.

[@PhatGecko2000]

1st round: extrmely good job by Remy, bravo, that is how he should be played. 2nd round: beggining was great, keeping the pressure on with sadness rings, urien did his annoying Aeigis reflector huge combo crap and destroyed you, but you basicly had the win. 3rd match: very good comboing of your moves, the very end was an extremely close, if your char didn't take as much damage you would have probly won. Overal: Extrmely good match on Remy's part, Urien was decent but could combo very well.

[@guayaba209]

@Chaldean4life91 you never not onced mentioned a tournament in your first comment which is the one i first responded to. I quote "this is what i loved about the 3rd strike scene as opposed to the SF4 scene" so it seems you dont know what YOU are talking about. I have seen gens all over the place along with roses cammys ect... So i clearly dont know what your talking about. And 3rd strike tournament scene is almost all the time strictly chun, yun, and urien.

[@kamwii]

think he meant that you have to jump the sonic booms like fire balls or something ._.

[@aClockworkTomato]

Actually, charge partitioning is a bit difficult to do and the LoV Machine Gun is a fair technique for Remy.

[@ThebutterNsugar]

The moves and super moves that Remy has is almost the same as Ash from king of fighters

[@guayaba209]

@Chaldean4life91 well seeing as you lack common knowledge to know which scene is doing better and has always done better i will tell you. SF4 from the moment it came out has sold better had more tournament, more ppl showing up to the tournaments, and much more profits to be earned even playing a tournament. But besides tournys. It brought out more players. Something that 3rd strike has never and will never do. Regardless of what you extremes say. So they are not equals thanks for point that out.

[@jaysenedwinward]

@derekmok I know this is an old comment but in Super, all the charge characters (Bison, Guile and such) are top tier. Just lettin ya know

[@AdlerSchwadron]

@derekmok looks like you never played sf4 seriously

[@lostn65]

Wouldn't not playing cheap like Pierrot does also not automatically mean you aren't playing to win at all costs? Sure you're still trying to win with all costs as Urien, but if Chun is higher tier, then wouldn't practicing with Chun to the exclusion of all others increase your chances of winning than by playing as Urien?

[@CHOCOLATEMAKER33]

We have to admit that the Aegis saved RXs ass